1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak curate for this Thursday, the eleventh 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: of May in London. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: Coming up today, a. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 3: Double digit problem surging inflation set to force the Bank 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 3: of England into a twelfth straight rate rise. 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Pause for thought. 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: Cooling US inflation adds to the case for the Fed 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: to stop hiking. 9 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 3: Biden does up the pressure. The US President warns the 10 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: whole world is in trouble if America defaults. 11 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 4: UK executives look for a US pay rise, a bonfire 12 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 4: of EU laws is extinguished, and. 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 5: The rise of older preneurs. 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 4: Those are the stories we're looking at in today's papers. 15 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 5: And I'm Leanne Gerrins. 16 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: Plus Disney minus the Entertainment Giant sees a drop in 17 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: streaming subscriptions. 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 6: That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. The business 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 6: news you need to start your day in just one 20 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 6: fifteen minute podcast on Apple, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business App 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 6: and everywhere you get your podcasts. 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 7: Good morning. I'm Stephen Carroll and I'm Caroline Hetger. 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: Here are the stories that we're following today. 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: The Bank of England is set to raise rates by 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: a quarter point today. The move would take the bank 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: space rate to four and a half percent, the highest 27 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: since two. 28 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 7: Thousand and eight. 29 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: Speaking to us here on Bloomberg Radio, former Monetary Policy 30 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 3: Committee member so Shield wad Wani said, there's a strong 31 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: argument for not going much higher. 32 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 8: I think the risks of a US recession have gone up, 33 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 8: which I then think possibly make it unwise for us 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 8: to take rates in the UK two five percent or 35 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 8: above what. 36 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: One is view feed into a debate about whether the 37 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 3: Central Bank will again leave the door open to more 38 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: rate hikes. The decision due in midday London time, with 39 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: the press conference half an hour later, and we'll hear 40 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: from Governor Andrew Bailey when he speaks to Bloomberg at 41 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: four o'clock this afternoon. 42 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg has learned that ECB officials are starting to accept 43 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: that interest hikes might need to continue in September. Our 44 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: sources say that some policy make us from across the 45 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: spectrum of the Governing Council think that two further quarter 46 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: point hikes may not be enough to tame consumer prices. 47 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: That could mean a possible third move in September, bringing 48 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: the deposit rate to four percent. 49 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: The US inflation has dropped below five percent for the 50 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: first time in two years. The data signals that price 51 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 3: pressure is beginning to ease, with services inflation slowing noticeably. 52 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: Bloomberg opinion columnists and former New York Fed President William 53 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: Dudley says there's more work to do. 54 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 9: The Fed making some progress on the inflation front, but 55 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 9: they haven't made much progress yet on the labor market 56 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 9: and on the. 57 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 8: Wage trend, So it's hard to see inflation going all 58 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 8: the way back to two percent. 59 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 7: Where the labor market this day and. 60 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: Reaches as high, they're going to keep rates at this. 61 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 8: Level, or maybe a lit'll leave a little bit higher 62 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 8: until they see as that their confident and inflation has 63 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 8: been to get back to two percent. 64 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: Speaking to Bloomberg, Dudley also conceded that the Fed's monetary 65 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: policy has got attributed to problems in the banking sector. 66 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: USCPI command at four point nine percent year on year, 67 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 3: investors greeting the figures as a sign the central bank 68 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: is unlikely to keep tightening. The Fed raised its benchmark 69 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: great above five percent last week for the first time 70 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 3: since two thousand and seven. 71 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: So US inflation shows signs of cooling, perhaps giving the 72 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: Fed room to pause, But the debt ceiling remains a 73 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: major concern. President Biden says that a default would drag 74 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: the US into a recession and have devastating repercussions for 75 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: the global economy. 76 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 10: Here's what's happened if MAGA Republicans get their way, American 77 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 10: defaults on our debt, higher interest rates for credit cards, 78 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 10: car loans, mortgages, payments for Social Security, Medicare, our troops 79 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 10: veterans could all be hauled in the lane. 80 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: Biden's remarks come a day after his first round of 81 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: talks with congressional leaders made little headway towards an agreements. 82 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: Disney's shares fell and after I was trading on Wall 83 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: Street after the company reported a drop in streaming subscribe. 84 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: The firm says losses that the division will rise by 85 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars this quarter. But David Traynor, CEO 86 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: of New Constructs, who specialize in investment research, says it's 87 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: not bad news. 88 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 9: Streaming was never really meant to be a profitable business. 89 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 9: It's a loss leader for other profitable businesses, and Disney 90 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 9: is by far the best position media and content company 91 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 9: to monetize content. 92 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: David Trayner says the key news for Disney shareholders is 93 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: still the recent return of CEO Bob Eiger. Total revenue 94 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: of the world's largest entertainment firm rose by thirteen percent 95 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 3: to twenty one point eight billion dollars for the period, 96 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 3: driven by strong performance of the company's theme parks. 97 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: And investors have wiped as much as two point three 98 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: billion dollars off the market value of carl ICAN's investment 99 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: firm after it disclosed a federal inquiry into its practices. 100 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: More now from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 101 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 11: It adds to the pressure that a short sellar attack 102 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 11: has been putting on the stock since last week. According 103 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 11: to a filing, the US Attorney's Office for the Southern 104 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 11: District of New York is seeking information on Icon Enterprises 105 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 11: corporate governance, securities offerings, dividends, and due diligence. Icon Enterprises 106 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 11: says it is cooperating with request. Separately, the firm hit 107 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 11: back in detail for the first time again short selling 108 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 11: firm Hindenburg Researchers report, which claimed on May second that 109 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 11: the company is overpriced and said it found evidence of 110 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 11: inflated valuations for some of its assets in New York. 111 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 11: Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 112 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: Those a few of our top stories then for you 113 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: this morning. I mean interesting the story around short sellers 114 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: with Carl Kamp because there's another piece on the terminal 115 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: that there are now investigations that are beginning into short 116 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: sellers related to those US regional banks. It seems to 117 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: have peaked the interest of the FDIC in others. I 118 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: think that'll be quite interesting if that becomes a bigger issue, 119 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: given the importance of that story in the last few weeks. 120 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 7: Yes, certainly one to watch. Meanwhile, do you get nostalgic 121 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 7: about technology? 122 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: No, I just like the novelty. 123 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 7: I am all surprised by that. 124 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: No, because this is the whole idea of flip phones 125 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: basically are back, except if you're Apple, because this is. 126 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 7: The foldable screens. 127 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: We were all marveling at a colleague of ours foldable 128 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: phone earlier in the week. But the trend of a 129 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 3: foldable phone, which has been around for a couple of 130 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: years now, debut by Samsung in twenty nineteen. 131 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 7: Still Apple hasn't managed to enter that game yet. 132 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: And there's a great piece by our colleague Ladsabov looking 133 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: at this and how It's not unusual necessarily for Apple 134 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: not to jump on a technology trend immediately, because they 135 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: tend to sit back and wait until they can do 136 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 3: it well and in an Apple way. But the question 137 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: now is is whether or not Apple will jump on 138 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: the foldable bandwagon or maybe not. 139 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 5: Listen. 140 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: I think if it's a great bit of kit, of 141 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: course you want to have it. I think perhaps Apple 142 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: can afford to be relaxed. I mean, what, they totally 143 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: dominate the kind of high end market for smartphones. 144 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 3: I mean seventy seven percent of the market for phones 145 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: that are of over seventy seven hundred and fifty one dollars. 146 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: It's one But having said that, you can understand that 147 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: they do not want to be caught out if this 148 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: is definitely the new the kind of new wave of 149 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: technology at the moment, it's largely the Android phones though, that. 150 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 7: Is exactly yeah. 151 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's this question as well as that, you know, 152 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: do I find working on a phone quite frustrating? 153 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 7: Is that age? Is that because I'm just looking too Well. 154 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: It's just the staggering amount of time that we spend 155 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: having to look at the screen, isn't it. 156 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: I think that's the two bigger. 157 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: Phone, better or worse for that anyway, debate for another day. 158 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: Let's turn back to matters here in the UK and 159 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: the dilemma facing the Bank of England as it goes 160 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: into its right decision today. Stubborn rather double digit inflation 161 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: set to forth the Bank of England into a twelve 162 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: straight interest rate rise today even though the end of 163 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: its lightning quick hiking cyclist coming into view. Let's bring 164 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: in our UK correspondent. 165 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 7: Lizzie Burden. Lizzie, what should we be expecting from the 166 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 7: Bank of England today. 167 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 12: Well, Stephen, we are expecting a quarter point height to 168 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 12: four point five percent. But there is going to be 169 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 12: a vote split on the committee. Economists reckon it'll be 170 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 12: the same as last time, seven to two. Because you've 171 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 12: got doves like Silvana ten Rairos saying to be a 172 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 12: hawk right now is like being a fool in the shower, 173 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 12: keeping turning on the hot tap, not being patient enough 174 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 12: to wait for the warm water, and scolding yourself in 175 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 12: the process. But you've got hawks on the committee, the 176 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 12: likes of Catherine Mann saying you need to bear down 177 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 12: on inflation expectations, keep going with the tough action, get 178 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 12: in control of the second round effects of this imported inflation, 179 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 12: So a seven to two split four point five percent 180 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 12: where we expect rates to end up today. But the 181 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 12: real focus will be what's the future path for rates 182 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 12: and when does the pause come? 183 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: So how much forward guidance do you really think we're 184 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: going to get then? 185 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 12: I mean, this is a question because how much certainty 186 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 12: can you give when there's so much uncertainty around the data. 187 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 12: We've had surprise after surprise when it comes to the 188 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 12: inflation and labor market data. 189 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 5: How credible can. 190 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 12: The Bank of England be other than saying it's all 191 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 12: data dependent from here on out? Was the Bank of 192 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 12: England too dubvish earlier in the cycle and is it 193 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 12: too late for tough talk now? So we'll get the 194 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 12: press conference, we'll hopefully have the interviews after that, but 195 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 12: I would look at the forecasts for clues for the 196 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 12: future path for rates. Most economists Bloomberg have surveyed say 197 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 12: that the Bank's going to raise its inflation forecast for 198 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 12: this year next year in twenty twenty five. That's because, 199 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 12: of course we've had that upside inflation surprise in the 200 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 12: latest data, and it'll be interesting to see where the 201 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 12: bank reckons inflation will end the year. Because NISA, the 202 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 12: think tank, has said that Rishi Sunac's priority is top 203 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 12: priority of harving inflation by the end of the year, 204 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 12: isn't looking necessarily realistic anymore, and in fact they say 205 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 12: that it's pretty irresponsible who have set that target because 206 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 12: it interferes with the bank's inflation fighting mission. 207 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: What about quantitative tightening, Lizzie? What should we be expecting 208 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: to hear on that front? 209 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 12: So economists expect that the Bank's going to keep going 210 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 12: with its current pace of quantitative tightening, cutting the portfolio 211 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 12: of bonds by eighty billion pounds a year, with just 212 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 12: over half from active sales. Of course, it started guilt 213 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 12: sales last November. 214 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 5: And then we've heard from. 215 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 12: The Deputy Governor Ben Broadbent saying last month that a 216 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 12: decision on qt's due in September. So nothing expected on 217 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 12: that front today, will have to wait till after the summer. 218 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: Okay, are UK carrithonder, Lizzie Burden, thank you very much 219 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: for joining us with the latest from the Bank of England. 220 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: That decision due at midday today. Up next though a 221 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: UK execs look for a US pay Bump, a bonfire 222 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: of EU laws is extinguished and the rise of entrepreneurs. 223 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 8: Now. 224 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 6: The paper Review hond blue Bird, Daybreak Europe the news 225 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 6: you need to know. 226 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: Again It joins us with a run through the newspapers. 227 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: Let's start with the Financial Times. Does it pay for 228 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: British executives to move to the US. 229 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: This is such a pertinent question. What did they find? 230 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 10: Yes? 231 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 4: And Caroline, isn't this debate really back into the spotlights. 232 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 5: The article in the. 233 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 4: Ft really breaks down the pros and cons for British executives, 234 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 4: debating whether they. 235 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 5: Want a new life in the US. 236 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 4: Now the debate over whether the UK is using its 237 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: top talent and actually faller furthering behind New York as 238 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: the home of the world's top companies. 239 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 5: As I just said earlier, it's really. 240 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: Something that's coming to the forefront again and fears are 241 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 4: growing among boards that restrictions on wages are actually damaging 242 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 4: UK based companies. Recently we heard from the LSE boss 243 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: that Julia hoggets calling for a fresh look at how 244 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 4: executives are paid right here in the UK. 245 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 5: And we also know sholders. 246 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 4: Recently voted down proposals for pay at UNILEBA. A lot 247 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 4: of people are saying top executives shouldn't get all this 248 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: money in the cost of living crisis. 249 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 6: Now. 250 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: Gavin Patterson, he used to run BT but left the 251 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 4: company here in the UK to work for Sales Force, 252 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: the big tech company over in Silicon Valley, told the 253 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: paper on a personal level, you earn more money in 254 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: the US. But what's interesting, you see is come back 255 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: to the UK now is reflecting on it and says 256 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 4: governance in the US has positives and negatives. He says, reflecting, 257 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: you know, on the threat of class action lawsuits, which 258 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 4: is very different here in the UK compared to the US. 259 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: And I just want to say, how much do you 260 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 4: think a chief executive roles medium payers in the US? 261 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 5: Stephen, without looking. 262 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 7: I don't like six seven million. 263 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 4: So it's thirteen point four million dollars. And that's compared 264 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 4: with the UK, which is five point think five million dollars. Now, 265 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 4: that was back in twenty nineteen, according to Wills Towers Watson. 266 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: So well, listen, you can earn a lot more, but 267 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: the size of businesses in the US markets is much 268 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: larger on average obviously, so but yes, there is still 269 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: a huge premium for working in the United States. I 270 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: quite like this though this line around outrage constraint is 271 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: still lower in the US. 272 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is a. 273 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: Kind of issue, the comparisons to what the medium pay 274 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: is in the business versus the CEO. Anyway, that from 275 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: the ft BONFAVEU laws scaled back to the fury of brexitteers. 276 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: So this is the ongoing story around legislation and it's 277 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: in the time. 278 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 4: Yes, it is, Caroline, and we have to discussed us 279 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: before in the paper review and it's something that has 280 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 4: been brought up and it's been a hot topic for 281 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 4: a while within the government. Now the government, according to 282 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 4: The Times, has ditched its plans for thousands of EU 283 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 4: era laws to expire automatically at the end of the year. 284 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 4: Now we did already know this, but now we know 285 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 4: the extent of it. Now the plan was dubbed a 286 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 4: post Brexit bonfire, and it is a major Brexit U 287 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: turn from the government. We must remember that this was 288 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 4: the legislation promised by the government, especially in its last 289 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 4: election manifesto. Now it's going to scrap EU laws, which 290 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: has infuriated these right wing backbenches. So they've done this 291 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: huge U turn to scrap those EU laws. The time 292 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 4: says only a fraction of the nearly four thousand EU 293 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 4: laws still in effect in the UK will be scrapped, 294 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 4: so five hundred and fifty laws will now be revoked 295 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 4: and three thousand will remain. Kenny Badenock, the Business and 296 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 4: Trade Secretary, said the government would no longer sunset all 297 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 4: the laws by the end of the year. The sunset 298 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: means expire them by the end of the year, and 299 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: Badenock said that had just become so clear that during 300 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 4: the process of identifying which UK laws to derive from 301 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 4: the EU, that there was a risk that important legislation 302 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 4: could be scrapped inadvertently. 303 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 5: Now, as I said, we had heard about this rollback. 304 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: Happening before, but now we're really seeing the extent of it, 305 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 4: which has annoyed right wing backbenches and brexfiteers of the 306 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: Tory Party. 307 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: Okay, so details they're coming from the Government on the 308 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: reduced scale back of those EU laws. Let's go to 309 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: the Telegraph next. Leanne and a piece from the journalist 310 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: Helen cow and Taylor talking about why more and more 311 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: of Generation X have no intention of retiring. 312 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 5: So journalists and artists. 313 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 4: Helen Cohen Taylor's opinion article as a ray of sunshine. 314 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: If you don't want to play golf, cut back or 315 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: quietly quit as you start going gray and have a 316 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 4: dodgy hip. Now, this is what she says in an 317 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: opinion article for The Telegraph, and she says, as Generation 318 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 4: Z whittles down it's working week to four days or 319 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: even less, Generation X seems to be heading in the 320 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 4: opposite direction. 321 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 5: And she also makes the point that. 322 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: Jeremy Hunts so called Kay budget in March confirmed the 323 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: government doesn't want them to quit either. She talks about 324 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: older preneurs launching new ventures in our late fifty. 325 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 5: She says, and beyond. 326 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 4: And she says this group is twice as likely as 327 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 4: a thirty year old to start an extremely successful company. 328 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 5: I think that's pretty amazing. 329 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: She also talks about Trinny Woodall she started her brand 330 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: at the age of fifty three. She's got a really 331 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: you know, extensive beauty brand. Now she does makeup, she 332 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 4: does close. 333 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 7: We remember her not quite a typical entrepreneurial, not quite. 334 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 5: The typical we remember her from the days shows, but 335 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 5: she was already well known. 336 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 4: But you know it now has a market valuation of 337 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty million pounds her business, and she's 338 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 4: so good on social media show. It shows that age 339 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 4: doesn't matter when it comes to that. And Jeremy Clarkson two, 340 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 4: he's been learning a lot about farming. 341 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 5: Clarks and farm laughing, No. 342 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: I Carolina laughing, Yeah, since farm has become a big deal. 343 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: Well, the thing is, we're all living longer. So you know, 344 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: for me, my life expectancy for the year that I 345 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: was born in this seventy seven, so you can understand that, 346 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: actually everyone needs to keep going for a little bit longer. 347 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: And entrepreneurship, yeah, the most popular time to start a 348 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: business obviously in your fifties. 349 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: But like Stephen said, they have pointed out people who 350 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 4: already had successful careers, so they launching themselves from a 351 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 4: position already. 352 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 7: Now they'll take away from their success. 353 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 4: Not to take away from their success, but I just 354 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 4: think this is a great article. 355 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 5: Doesn't matter if you're going. 356 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: Gray like me. 357 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 7: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 358 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: You're morning brief on the stories making news from London 359 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: to Wall Street and beyond. 360 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast speed every morning, on Apple, 361 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 362 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: You can also listen live each morning on London DAB Radio, 363 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 364 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station, is also available on your 365 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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