1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Hey, this is any and Samantha, and welcome to stuff 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: I never told you, protection of iHeart Radio, and just 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: time for another happy hour. As always with these, drink 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: responsibly if you choose to do so, Samantha, what are 5 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: you sipping on today? So I actually found a new 6 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: ginger beer that I like that has a tropical flavors, 7 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: so I decided I was going to be tropical. I'm 8 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: putting a lot of air quotes here and use it 9 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: with my rum and limes. So essentially dark and stormy, 10 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: but tropical. So a tropical storm. I like that. That 11 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: just came off the top of my head. Are a genius. 12 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: You are a genius. Um. I also had to get 13 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: a little creative because I'm out of pretty much everything, 14 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: so I made a coin tro orange liqueur and a 15 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: lot of sparkling water and cinnamon and a Reagan. No, 16 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: it's actually surprisingly good. You did something I was trying 17 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: to be like, let's get a little savory, get a 18 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: little sweet, spicy. I see you. It turned out well, 19 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: but it was a risk. It was a risk. Feel 20 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: like we've it's been a while since we've created our 21 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: own cocktails. So maybe that's our next episode. Ay, you 22 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: have an assignment. Okay, oh all right. My mind is 23 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: immediately like, cogs are spinning. Cogs, they're spinning. Wheels are turning, 24 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: dogs are turning. We're so bad at idioms. I'm the 25 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: worst at it, and I just started creating my own. 26 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm definitely nick from a new Girl who completely butchers 27 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: them all. Okay, that's interesting. I've never seen that show. 28 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: It's just fun. There's definitely problematic things through it, but 29 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: it's fun, easy going and was one of my go 30 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: twos because there's typically less sad things and just hilarious commentary. Okay, okay, 31 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: perhaps I will endeavor on that journey. Okay, well, for today, 32 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to do something kind of way it's been. 33 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: It's been on my mind for a while, and I 34 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: think it could be a full episode. So this is 35 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: just like testing the waters. But before we get into it, Samantha, 36 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. But you didn't play a 37 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: lot of video games up? Did you know? I did not? 38 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: Oh great, now you're gonna make me think of how 39 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: uninteresting I was as a kid if I'm thinking about this. 40 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: Um No, I didn't do too much of the video games. 41 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: My brother was the one that got all of his 42 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: gaming things for Christmas. It's very expensive. I'm trying to 43 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: think what I if I did anything like that. I'm 44 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: sure I did well, I did. You know what, That's 45 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: not true because I loved the computer games as a kid, 46 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: so I definitely played like word games, typing games, mystery 47 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: kind of games. But it was when I'm talking computer games, 48 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: I'm talking about eighties think of eighties movies with the 49 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: sounds perfect what you're talking about. Actually, so that's really good. 50 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up because I feel like 51 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: I often forget computer games too, and this is one 52 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: of the reasons I wanted to talk about this. And 53 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: in this episode, we're talking about gendered video games, very 54 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: personal experience I had with them, which is related to 55 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: the episode the Monday many I believe we did on 56 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: gendered board games, which we have and I still want 57 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: to play. Yes, I still need I keep forgetting about 58 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: this because we need to do this. Maybe we'll get 59 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: into the TikTok world that I've been talking so much 60 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: about by having us play these games. I said, I've 61 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: said it sounds so hip and cool, but yeah, you know, 62 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: and now that you're talking about it. I do remember 63 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 1: also video games I would play as women in those 64 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: characters because like a street Fighter was one of the one. 65 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, look, it's an Asian woman, very sexualized 66 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: Asian woman, computer animated sexualized Asian woman. But hey, I'll 67 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: play her. But yeah, outside of that, I know, I'm thinking, Okay, 68 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: I see where you're going, and I'm ready, let's go. 69 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: I interrupted it again. No, no, no, no worries. Yeah. 70 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: So one of the reasons this was on my mind 71 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: was I just kind of unlocked a forgotten part of 72 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: my childhood recently because I was feeling nostalgic for um, 73 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: these educational computer games I used to play, and like 74 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: jump Start fifth grade, jump Start sixth grade, Like, I 75 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: would play those a game if I could, if I 76 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: could find them, I love them. Did you play the 77 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: Carmen San Diego game? Yes, yeah, that's one of the 78 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: ones I remember. This is so fun him And if 79 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: you're not familiar with these, they were very like kind 80 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: of mini game based, like there was a story, but 81 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: ultimately it was like like it in jump Start fifth grade, 82 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: you had to solve this crossword puzzle based on a 83 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: museum you were in, So I had to go like 84 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: look at the art and figure out the answers, and 85 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: there was a division like measuring thing that you had 86 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: to do to make drinks at this pizza restaurant, which 87 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why as a kid you're making the drinks, 88 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: but whatever. So they just had like a bunch of 89 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: fun little mini games, and often the protagonists in those 90 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: games was a young girl, which I liked. But then 91 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: that got me thinking about all these other games I 92 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: forgot that I used to play um that were very, 93 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: very gendered, and I just wanted to talk about that. 94 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: Maybe I will listeners you'll be like, oh, I remember this, 95 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: or I used to play something like this, And I 96 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: do want to return and do a full episode on 97 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: it because I think it would be really really interesting 98 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: because a lot of the games I played, I wouldn't 99 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: say we're gendered at its masculine, but we're definitely felt 100 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: as more like boy games, if that makes sense. Well, 101 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: that's interesting that you're talking about all these mini games 102 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: and like you have to solve puzzles, because that's essentially 103 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: what phone games I play. And I'm like, maybe that's 104 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: why they gendered this as say that doesn't count as 105 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: gaming I did correct me and say, you're a gamer 106 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: because I play the four match games or the cook games, 107 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: which there's been a couple of those which unfolds into 108 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: stories and I get really fascinated by. But it's kind 109 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: of that similar setup. Which were the games that I 110 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: liked as Yeah, yeah, you know, I was thinking about 111 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: that too, because I remember I felt like when I 112 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: these memories came back to me, it's almost like I 113 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: separated them from video games, like in my own head, 114 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: and I'm somebody who yes, it is constantly like, no, 115 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: we haven't played just as much video games, if not more. 116 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: We just don't count thing that women play his video games, 117 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: which is ridiculous. But I feel like I was doing 118 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: it too with these memories, and so I just got 119 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: to thinking of these games I used to play, and 120 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: one of them was I believe it was on sega Um, 121 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: but it was a Barbie game where the whole point 122 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: was you had to get to this model runway. You 123 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: were a model. You had to get to the runway. 124 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: You were on a skateboard and you had to dodge 125 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: like frisbees and balls, and you didn't want to mess 126 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: up your hair and your face. Uh, and then you 127 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: had to like strike the perfect pose and get the 128 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: best pictures and get points based on the pictures that 129 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: you took. It was very very bright, like lots of 130 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: pinks and pastels, I would say, But it was certainly 131 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: a game my brother's made fun of me for playing. 132 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I'm sure like if I played it now, 133 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: I would have a very feminist critique, right, But I 134 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: did enjoy it. She was I mean, I'm sure I 135 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: was internalizing or taking in some negative body image because 136 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: she was very thin and looked very certain way. We 137 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: did have another game that was Barbie related, and it 138 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: was a detective game, and I loved that game. And 139 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: you were like it was at an amusement park and 140 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: you had to pick up these clues and she wore 141 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: like the most stereotypicult detect that in the drench coat, 142 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: and the person who did it changed every time, which 143 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: I liked. Uh, So you know, you never knew for 144 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: sure even if you played it before. And she did 145 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: some of her own stunts, like at the end, there 146 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: was a ski do jet ski that you had to 147 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: like get out of this cave, but it was collapsing. Um, 148 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: But I bring it up because I loved it, and 149 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: I caught my brothers playing at once and they also 150 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: loved it. I got them to admit yes, yes, and 151 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean it was very funny, and they they did 152 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: admit it, and like even if I asked them today, 153 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh, yeah, that game was fun. But 154 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: still it was like they had to keep it secret 155 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: because something for girls is less than um and it 156 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, they were so embarrassed when 157 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: I walked in on them playing it, and it was 158 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: kind of comical looking back, like just playing this Barbie 159 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: game and it was fun. I do want to bring 160 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: eaves on sometimes because he's has been talking about these 161 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: Nancy Drew like mystery games she's been playing, and I'm 162 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: very very curious about it because it sounds like a 163 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: similar vein as this, and I do love I love 164 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: a like trying to put together a puzzle, solemn mystery. 165 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: I mean, she was at the unboxing of those games 166 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,479 Speaker 1: that you had given me, which were all of the 167 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: games we talked about, Mall Madness, Sweet Valley High, Babysitters Club. 168 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: You even got me the Mystery Dating game, which made 169 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: me kind of hurt my feelings and I'm like, first 170 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: of all, I was not born in this era, how 171 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: dare you? I just want to play it. I want 172 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: to play j K. But no, I think it'd be 173 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: interesting for us to play. I would love us to 174 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: be me, you and Eves. And of course I've had 175 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: the idea I think we've talked about it before of 176 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: bringing in different male employees of my heart, including Ben Boland, 177 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: because he is the most straightforward dude that I know 178 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: that I really think would be interesting because he was 179 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: also like, what or these games? I need to know? 180 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: He was actually really ready to get into it, um exapt. 181 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: We were missing a few things, but we need to 182 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: bring on several different people to try it out with us. 183 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: But I'm really excited about this because it's really interesting 184 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: to know that that does like reach us even today 185 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: memories because yeah, he's been talking about the Nancy Drew 186 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: game and what she liked about it and going down 187 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: memory lane. Yeah yeah, And I That's why I'm hoping 188 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: you listeners will uncover some games I haven't heard of, 189 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: because I did try to. I was trying to get 190 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: a sense for if this could be a full episode, 191 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: and I'm very confident it could be but it was 192 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: kind of hard to search because the video gave Morald 193 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: is so unfortunately gendered and pretty like viewed as a 194 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: masculine space already. But like, it was hard for me 195 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: to find these games that I'm talking about here, which 196 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: were very clearly targeting um girls, usually young girls. But 197 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: it is interesting when you go back and you have 198 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: these memories and they're so fond, and I have to say, like, 199 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: I the idea. We have a handful of male friends 200 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: co workers at that unboxing event of those board games, 201 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: and it was funny to see their shock of like, 202 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: this is the point of this game is to get 203 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: a date or to buy things at a mall, And 204 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: that in itself was very telling to me. But also yeah, 205 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: again just the idea of Ben bowleyn like playing mall 206 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: madness and trying to like to play girl talk. Yes, 207 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: phone game, blind date game? Which one was it? The 208 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: phone date game? I think that will be amazing because 209 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: the cards that you put in there when they say 210 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: it's a match or is not about is it the light? 211 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: Is the light? When you get rejected? I'm so excited 212 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: we need this to happen. I think it will be excellent. Okay, 213 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: I did want to include some another one, so I 214 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: also I loved my little pony growing up and I 215 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: had I still have them. I can't. I can't part 216 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: with them, and I know I should, but I have. 217 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: I have a few mild ponies. Right. Wait, is your scented? 218 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: Because I used to Mine used to be scented, and 219 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: I thought that was interestingly weird. I had one that 220 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: was scented. I had one that was scented. C foam. 221 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: I had to win her too. It was a whole 222 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: thing might smell like vanilla. I was very confused, and 223 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: it was purple because I love purple, but of course 224 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: I no longer have it. Actually had a house fire 225 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: when I was in my college year, so everything went 226 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: away from my childhood, which was very limited anyway, because 227 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: I didn't get anything until I was eight childhood. But yeah, 228 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: so I just remember it smelling like vanilla all the time, 229 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: and I was very confused. I think it was supposed 230 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: to be cupcake, but it was vanilla. Yeah, I know 231 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. And that's actually interesting because one 232 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: of the so this game was very my memory is 233 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: kind of sparse, but what I do remember, it was 234 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: very like choose your pony, picked the color of her body, 235 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: picked the color of her hair, picked this like draw 236 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: a little symbol on her. And then I think you 237 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: did pick how she would smell, and it obviously it 238 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: was not like open open season. It was like will 239 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: she smell like cake or friend flowers or tobacco and coffee? 240 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: This is another project we could design her own. But 241 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: it was definitely like I again, I liked it. Um, 242 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, you just put another member of my head. Yeah. 243 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: I remember the matching outfits for the Barbie now like, 244 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: but they weren't to life like we had to. I 245 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: think we I think there's a version of that on 246 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: phone games where you can create fashions and like pick 247 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: and choose, but you literally like it was digital. But 248 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: I know there was a actual like drawing version of 249 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: it too, but you picked the outfits and hair dues 250 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: and and like go on days and fit machines or something. 251 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: I feel like there was a Barbie game like that. 252 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: Someone tell me this is true, please do please do? 253 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think you're right, and I 254 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: guess like ultimately, so this my Little Pony game was 255 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: very much about like coloring and style and appearances. We 256 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: had another game that was a Creola based game that 257 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: was similar, but that game was like without gender, whereas 258 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: this game was very much like this as for girls, 259 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: and I was once again made fun of her playing it, 260 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: even though I feel like the dynamic was pretty much 261 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:36,359 Speaker 1: the same as that Creola game, like coloring almost exactly exactly. 262 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: So that's sort of what I was interested in when 263 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this, And definitely my memories of 264 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: this are pretty limited. And like I said, a lot 265 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: of games I played maybe weren't gendered outright but just 266 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: felt like boys games to me, whereas these were like 267 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: girls games for girls, and they were all about appearance. 268 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: I would say, um, even if it's a pony, but 269 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: whatever it was was all about kind of like looks, 270 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: and I do think that pony went, if I'm remembering correctly, 271 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: was very like, not that I'm saying this is wrong, 272 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: it's assarily, but they were kind of like, this is 273 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: your box, and you're naming your pony is something very nice, 274 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: and it's gonna smell nice, and it's gonna look nice, 275 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: and that's gonna be nice, and that's it. You're not 276 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: gonna make some golf em pony, Okay, did they have 277 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: a care Bears game? Because like the care Bears more 278 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: than my Little Pony, and of course the Sad care 279 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: Bear was my favorite. I mean the rain class I 280 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: love it. I'm sure there was. We'll have to look 281 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: into it. Oh, I'd be so curious. Oh all right, yeah, 282 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: I want to come back to this. But in the meantime, 283 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm hoping listeners, if you get an example, Oh, please 284 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: let us know. If they have a copy of the 285 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: Carmen San Diego game, tell us how to get to it. 286 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: Because I'm now reminiscing about this game. I'm telling you 287 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: to play Jump Start fifth grade today. I would have 288 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: a ball well cheers here, yes, yes, And as always, listeners, 289 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us in this happy hour. And yeah, 290 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: if you have any memory lanes you would like to 291 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: go down with us. Any suggestions we would love to 292 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: get them. You can email the Steffanie you mom stuff 293 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: at I hurt me dot com. 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