Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we never split our votes.
Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal here at Radio Row for the last
Speaker 2: time during Super Bowl fifty nine build up, next to
Speaker 2: my friend Jordan rod Reeg of The Athletic.
Speaker 1: We've done it. We've made it to Friday. We've had
Speaker 1: so much fun in the process too.
Speaker 3: I think somehow we already had like a great friendship
Speaker 3: before this, and it's been a fun season all year.
Speaker 3: But like really working and like cranking with somebody in
Speaker 3: the trenches.
Speaker 1: You know, you learn a few things, Yeah, you do?
Speaker 4: You do?
Speaker 3: I learned about I learned all important meal schedule for Greg.
Speaker 5: Oh, I've been dying this week, angry, low blood sugar.
Speaker 5: It's all a problem. But this show's gonna be a
Speaker 5: lot of fun. So we're gonna talk about the awards.
Speaker 5: If we're gonna go all season like MVP talking about
Speaker 5: and then it kind of happens and then it just
Speaker 5: gets ignored. Let's go through the awards. We're gonna talk
Speaker 5: about who won, who didn't, why, what we thought. The
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty five was announced,
Speaker 5: very intriguing, surprising on a number of levels to me.
Speaker 5: And then we're gonna throw it to a number of
Speaker 5: interviews that we've done both on Thursday and on Friday,
Speaker 5: and as you're hearing this, yeah, we're getting closer and
Speaker 5: closer to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: But let's start with that MVP vote.
Speaker 5: Obviously, everyone knows that's listening to this by now that
Speaker 5: Josh Allen wins his first MVP, he proved a dumb
Speaker 5: tweet that I had wrong, which is, you know, I
Speaker 5: was like when Lamar won the first team, all Bro
Speaker 5: was like, well, looks like Lamar's gonna be MVP, because
Speaker 5: that's what's happened every year since nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 1: But it didn't happen this time. Let's actually hear from Josh.
Speaker 5: Allen was very nice at the podium, his father, emotional
Speaker 5: in the crowd. A cool moment here in New Orleans,
Speaker 5: accepting his MVP trophy and thanking those who helped him
Speaker 5: along the way.
Speaker 6: I'd like to think the Bills Organization, Terry and Kim Pagula,
Speaker 6: Brandon Bean, Sean McDermott, thank you guys for drafting me
Speaker 6: seven and a half years ago.
Speaker 1: It feels just like yesterday. It really does.
Speaker 6: And I know this is an individual award and it
Speaker 6: says most Valuable Player on it, but I think it's
Speaker 6: derived from team success and I love my team dead off.
Speaker 6: Thank you for presenting. I really appreciate it. We got
Speaker 6: such a great locker room in Buffalo, and it takes
Speaker 6: everybody from the equipment staff to the training room, to
Speaker 6: the strength staff, to slick Rick in the mailroom, to
Speaker 6: the cafeteria upstairs. Like it truly takes everybody to half
Speaker 6: team success. And I'm so fortunate to be a part
Speaker 6: of a great organization.
Speaker 1: That was Josh Allen. And He's right, it is a
Speaker 1: team award.
Speaker 5: I think he won the award because the Bills had
Speaker 5: a better season with lower expectations than the Ravens had
Speaker 5: in the regular season with higher expectations. And I think
Speaker 5: he played his best football this year and as a
Speaker 5: deserving MVP winner. And that's why before I move on
Speaker 5: to the voting, Jordan, I.
Speaker 1: Do kind of want to.
Speaker 5: Think about that this was never guaranteed for Josh Allen,
Speaker 5: that he was the best player in the league. Not
Speaker 5: only is he the best development story since I've been
Speaker 5: covering football in terms of just improving at his craft,
Speaker 5: but even comparing him to the Lamar and Mahomes and
Speaker 5: other top quarterbacks for him to be this consistent as
Speaker 5: a passer and one of the most valuable runners at
Speaker 5: the quarterback position in the history of the league into
Speaker 5: it week after week after week, which I think he
Speaker 5: did this season better than he's ever done. It was
Speaker 5: so not guaranteed, and it's such a cool career moment
Speaker 5: for him that I don't want to get lost in
Speaker 5: the shuffle of the controversy of the votes flipping from
Speaker 5: the All Pro vote.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And obviously we'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 3: And I know you've got some good insight on that, Craig,
Speaker 3: but it is a great point that you make, because
Speaker 3: you know, for every quarterback who is an elite at
Speaker 3: their craft, and Lamar Jackson included in that, it is
Speaker 3: such a meticulous process to getting to that. And Josh
Speaker 3: Allen was a rough, rough quarterback coming out of college.
Speaker 3: He was a rough product. And I was talking to
Speaker 3: Brandon Bean last summer about how Josh Allen put together
Speaker 3: all of the little details about his body and how
Speaker 3: basically we've talked about on the show before, biomechanics and
Speaker 3: the act of biomechanical science and studies of efficient becoming
Speaker 3: more efficient thrower, which means the energy transfers to every
Speaker 3: part of your body through the course of your throwing
Speaker 3: motion in the most kinetically sound and energetic way.
Speaker 1: Right, And there's an actual sigenergetic Oh god, there's.
Speaker 3: An actual way and an actual technique in science behind
Speaker 3: refining every piece of this. And Josh Allen really fell
Speaker 3: in love with it in part because it was helping
Speaker 3: him become a better quarterback, and also, as Brandon was
Speaker 3: telling me, because he loves golf and so finding ways.
Speaker 3: That's why I like about Josh Allen's journey from being
Speaker 3: really you kind of had some questions.
Speaker 1: You know, you knew the talent.
Speaker 3: Was there just a rough cut rock at that point
Speaker 3: before he became a diamond, right, And so I think
Speaker 3: that putting all of those things together but keeping it
Speaker 3: fun along the way. And that's why I bring up
Speaker 3: the golf thing, because it's one of his favorite things
Speaker 3: to do when he's not playing football, and so marrying
Speaker 3: the two together to where even when you're not working,
Speaker 3: you're working, that's something that I think shouldn't get lost
Speaker 3: in the journey of any quarterback who's at this level,
Speaker 3: who has this award but also just a cool little
Speaker 3: behind the scenes of what it really takes to get
Speaker 3: to this, especially from.
Speaker 1: Where he started. And he's been so consistent, not just
Speaker 1: game to game.
Speaker 5: But he came in second in the MVP vote in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, which I thought was probably his best season
Speaker 5: before this year.
Speaker 1: Lost out on that award to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5: But when they went thirteen and three, Wes, by the way,
Speaker 5: always knew Chris Westling our friend. That twenty nineteen season,
Speaker 5: Josh Allen did lead the league in game winning drives,
Speaker 5: game like fourth quarter comebacks, and he was rough then,
Speaker 5: but he did have a lot about him, and Wes
Speaker 5: thought he was gonna be great and he was absolutely right.
Speaker 5: So this is the fourth time he's come in the
Speaker 5: top five in MVP voting, so he's been knocking on
Speaker 5: the door, and ultimately I think that's why he won.
Speaker 4: Was it.
Speaker 5: I think too many voters just thought it feels weird
Speaker 5: that Lamar's won three and Josh Allen hasn't won any
Speaker 5: and I don't really want Lamar to win three, and
Speaker 5: so I'm gonna like mentally come up with a reason
Speaker 5: to vote Lamar Jackson first in All Pro. So he
Speaker 5: had thirty votes there, but second in MVP he had
Speaker 5: twenty three votes there, so there was a difference of seven. Also,
Speaker 5: there was an Offensive Player of the Year award given
Speaker 5: out at Honors that goes to Saquon Barkley, but a
Speaker 5: lot of voters flipped their Lamar Jackson for Offensive Player
Speaker 5: of the Year vote and then made him second in MVP,
Speaker 5: even though they had him first in All Pro. It's
Speaker 5: like they were just trying to split the baby and
Speaker 5: spread it around to everyone, and ultimately that is what happened.
Speaker 1: And my hot take is like, that's fine.
Speaker 5: I like the reasoning doesn't really make sense to me,
Speaker 5: but I'm also kind of fine with it, Like it's
Speaker 5: okay to me that look that Josh Allen won this award.
Speaker 5: I would have like just barely favored Lamar, But I
Speaker 5: am kind of happy that Josh Allen got one, because
Speaker 5: if you look over a five or six year period,
Speaker 5: he does kind of deserve one. So even if the
Speaker 5: reason like, I think you should have just voted him
Speaker 5: first Team All Bro. If you're voting MVB, vote HI
Speaker 5: first Team All Pro, he probably should have won both.
Speaker 5: But Lamar gets a little taste and I wonder what
Speaker 5: Lamar feels about it. But my guess is like, it's
Speaker 5: not that big of a deal.
Speaker 3: He's won a couple he and he is just so
Speaker 3: I mean, Lamar is just first of all, he's like
Speaker 3: just joy personified. But also he doesn't strike me as
Speaker 3: somebody who would sit there and like put this up
Speaker 3: on his bullets and board or anything like that.
Speaker 7: He just wants to be great and so okay.
Speaker 3: So I do wonder though, because you mentioned about flipping
Speaker 3: the votes and all of that. So much of this
Speaker 3: is public, you know, the names of people who voted
Speaker 3: in different ways, and explanations by some and publicized ballots
Speaker 3: and stuff. I wonder if some of the flipping is happening,
Speaker 3: not because necessarily people think that that's their actual opinion,
Speaker 3: but because they know that if they don't credit.
Speaker 7: Pass around credit or pass around.
Speaker 3: The kudos, then you know it's going to be seen,
Speaker 3: and you have to be seen like, oh, I'm rooting
Speaker 3: for you, and also I'm rooting for you.
Speaker 5: You know that I have not seen the attention on
Speaker 5: individual voters and who voted and who voted for whatever
Speaker 5: before with this word literally this is the first time
Speaker 5: dan Orlowski credit to him on ESPN talked about why
Speaker 5: he was one of the people that flipped, and I
Speaker 5: think it gave good insight into why he did it.
Speaker 1: It didn't really make any.
Speaker 5: Sense, like he just used the word value to say
Speaker 5: Josh Allen was some how more valuable to his team,
Speaker 5: which I bought all that argument if you want to
Speaker 5: make it, But then, just why wasn't he the best
Speaker 5: quarterback in the league. Why was Lamar Jackson the best
Speaker 5: quarterback in league?
Speaker 1: Who cares? Honestly?
Speaker 5: So, Lamar Jackson ends up with twenty three votes, Josh
Speaker 5: Allen twenty seven for MVP, Saquon Barkley a distant third.
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow and Jared Goff round out the top five.
Speaker 5: And yeah, our friend Nick Wright was absolutely right, pointing
Speaker 5: out to me over a text message the day that
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson was First Team All Pro saying I have
Speaker 5: a feeling they're gonna split the vote and Josh Allen's
Speaker 5: gonna get it.
Speaker 1: And he was right.
Speaker 5: And he's also very funny pointing out the fact that someday,
Speaker 5: maybe Patrick Mahomes can be more valuable than Jared Goff,
Speaker 5: but this is not that day.
Speaker 1: Jared Goff was more valuable this yearly, hell, it's kind
Speaker 1: of true. It is funny.
Speaker 5: Shout out also to the people who had Jaden Daniels
Speaker 5: and Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold and Justin Herbert getting
Speaker 5: some fourth and fifth place votes. That's why I like
Speaker 5: the top five votes. Let's continue on Defensive Player of
Speaker 5: the Year.
Speaker 1: Patrick's I called it.
Speaker 5: I thought it was surprising when Stefan Gilmour won because
Speaker 5: there were good candidates that year and he didn't have
Speaker 5: a ton of stats.
Speaker 1: This one's one of.
Speaker 5: The strangest defensive player this year, not that he's not deserving,
Speaker 5: just that it hasn't happened before. Yeah, that at cornerback
Speaker 5: without really a ton of stats. Even Durell Reeves when
Speaker 5: he was just locked down like and they didn't throw
Speaker 5: to him, there was all these coverage sets.
Speaker 1: Certana is just like a recognition of excellence.
Speaker 3: I have a theory about this, and this is not
Speaker 3: like based on reporting, but it is I think a
Speaker 3: pretty strong and sound theory. We have so many more
Speaker 3: angles of the game now, honestly, because when you're just
Speaker 3: reduced to watching it on your broadcast, and you know
Speaker 3: the crews do a great job, but it is limiting,
Speaker 3: and often you're following the action of the play. Often
Speaker 3: you're not looking at an actual all twenty two. Look
Speaker 3: when you're looking at those camera angles from back, you know,
Speaker 3: even even five, ten years ago, and now you have
Speaker 3: so many ways too, and there's so many clips that
Speaker 3: you can find, not even if even if you don't
Speaker 3: have access like we do to the.
Speaker 1: Wonderful NFL Pro and NFL plus pro.
Speaker 7: Like it is, it is even more so like search
Speaker 7: on social.
Speaker 1: Media, and you'll believe that this is the reason I hope.
Speaker 3: I would love you know what, Greg, let me just
Speaker 3: for one little facet and one little sliver of the world,
Speaker 3: let me believe that people are more educated than they see.
Speaker 1: I think he's a great choice, and it was your choice.
Speaker 1: Shout out to you.
Speaker 5: Yes, I love that he got twenty six first place votes,
Speaker 5: and I think I think you're right. I thought you
Speaker 5: were going to go into the next gen stats and.
Speaker 1: Well all of it. I was about to actually and
Speaker 1: I cut you off. Yeah, that's all right. We've learned
Speaker 1: a lot this week.
Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson comes in second, Miles Garrett comes in third.
Speaker 1: I thought Garrett might end up winning this award.
Speaker 5: I think Sirtan won it ultimately because his team made
Speaker 5: the playoffs and those teams didn't like if Trey hen
Speaker 5: if if the the players around Hendrickson were better. It's
Speaker 5: kind of like Burrow got less votes for MVP because
Speaker 5: his team wasn't good.
Speaker 1: It's just how it works.
Speaker 5: I think if the Bengals went thirteen and four this
Speaker 5: year and Trey Hendrickson had the same year, he might
Speaker 5: win the award. But that's it's how the cookie crummels,
Speaker 5: like there's no it's fine, like nothing's perfect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I really don't want to take anything away
Speaker 3: from Pat certain either, because if you go watch him
Speaker 3: on a personnap basis and you again, you are able
Speaker 3: to do that now, and you're able to quantify literally
Speaker 3: his impact on a game, it's just outstand it's astounding,
Speaker 3: and we very rarely see seasons like this from any
Speaker 3: one player.
Speaker 5: I want to find out who voted Kirby Joseph first,
Speaker 5: and are.
Speaker 1: There any voters based in Detroit applaud them? I guess
Speaker 1: I can find this out.
Speaker 5: Andrew van Ginko got a first place vote, Zach Bond
Speaker 5: got two. He was my first place vote and actually
Speaker 5: ended up coming in top five, which is great.
Speaker 4: T J.
Speaker 5: Watt was fourth, but again it was such a wide
Speaker 5: open year that Kirby Joseph got.
Speaker 1: A first place vote and came in in sixth.
Speaker 5: Your guy Nick Benito, surprisingly a little lower than I
Speaker 5: would have expected at ninth, McKinney, Kyle Hamilton, John and
Speaker 5: Grenard Jalen Carter. I do love that it's this long
Speaker 5: list that when we look back on the PFR page
Speaker 5: that you'll see Benito came in nine, yeah, and it'll
Speaker 5: be like, actually a recognition of a really cool yeah
Speaker 5: moment in his career. So I mentioned Offensive Player of
Speaker 5: the Year. That's where Saquon Barkley gets his love. There
Speaker 5: was some buzz here that maybe Saquon was gonna sneak
Speaker 5: up and win MVP at the last second.
Speaker 3: I have a theory about that too. I think that
Speaker 3: was a classical vote. I thought that was a classic misdirect.
Speaker 3: I thought that maybe they were worried that it would
Speaker 3: be leaked, and so someone ended up like jumping the
Speaker 3: leak and instead leaking something else. That's what I think.
Speaker 1: So Lamar ends up coming second. So that's weird.
Speaker 5: It's the exact same thing that happened to Drew Brees
Speaker 5: one year, twenty eighteen, who won the MVP that year.
Speaker 5: I should know these things up the top of my head,
Speaker 5: but he came. I remember he came in second for
Speaker 5: MVP and second for Offensive Player of the Year, which
Speaker 5: is just it's kind of weird, like no one fully
Speaker 5: decided to vote for either. Jamar Chase comes in third,
Speaker 5: Derrick Henry third, Joe Burrow fifth. Joe Burrow also wins
Speaker 5: Comeback Player of the Year for the second time, which
Speaker 5: he makes the joke that's like, this is not an
Speaker 5: award you want to win twice.
Speaker 1: JK.
Speaker 5: Dobbins, who would have been a fun pick, comes in second.
Speaker 5: Darnold comes in third. There, let's go to the rookies.
Speaker 5: Jaden gets forty nine to the fifty votes. Don't be
Speaker 5: the person that's mad that Sam Monson from PFF voted
Speaker 5: brock Bauers first for Offensive Rookie of the Year. Your
Speaker 5: guy Jayden got forty nine freaking votes. There's a lot
Speaker 5: crazier voting going on in the world. It is then
Speaker 5: brock Bowers getting one. He had one of the best
Speaker 5: rookie seasons of all time. It's totally fine to disagree
Speaker 5: on these awards.
Speaker 3: I do find it fascinating how you didn't want Rock
Speaker 3: Bauers on our All Pro team, but now you know
Speaker 3: this argument.
Speaker 5: But I also think it would be totally reasonable had
Speaker 5: to do it. Like even the people that are mad
Speaker 5: that Lamar got one to fourth place vote, I promise you,
Speaker 5: like a vote for Joe Burrow is not that crazy,
Speaker 5: a vote for Saquon. These guys all had outstanding seasons
Speaker 5: and you're kind of picking between them and you're recognizing
Speaker 5: all of them. It's not that serious. And it's also
Speaker 5: how you want to look at it. And I liked
Speaker 5: how Sam looked at it, which was that for his position. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think in Sam Monson's mind, brock Bowers was the
Speaker 5: best player in the entire league and Jaden's not at
Speaker 5: that level, and that he's evaluating it for what he's
Speaker 5: asked to do because you can't ask brock Powers to
Speaker 5: play quarterback. I think that's a fine way to look
Speaker 5: at it. Not everyone has to, but he came in second.
Speaker 7: I do love that we had Jade and Daniels on
Speaker 7: our show.
Speaker 3: He had won the fan vote in the morning and
Speaker 3: then he won the award that afternoon.
Speaker 5: He won the Pepsi you know, die Pepsi Sugar Award
Speaker 5: Pepsi zero, and then he wins this one. Bonnix comes
Speaker 5: in third, pretty close to Bowers. Brian Thomas comes in fourth,
Speaker 5: Neighbors comes in fifth. Bucky Irving, who in some seasons
Speaker 5: would have won Rookie of the Year, did not get
Speaker 5: on the podium him in the top five, like he
Speaker 5: would have absolutely crushed Sam Bradford the year that he won.
Speaker 5: Or to take it way back, John Stevens of the
Speaker 5: New England Patriots, the year here went like there are
Speaker 5: weird years, like Bucky Irving was awesome, but he got
Speaker 5: buried in this year. Drake May was really good for
Speaker 5: a rookie, like he would have beaten Sam Bradford. He
Speaker 5: was seventh defensive Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: How about those.
Speaker 5: Rams, They're just racking up rookie awards so that a
Speaker 5: year after Puka gets it and then Kobe Turner comes
Speaker 5: in second defensively. Jared Verse comes in first, Braden Fist
Speaker 5: comes in third, Quinnon Mitchell in between them at second.
Speaker 5: Not that close of vote. Actually Verse won it by
Speaker 5: a decent amount over Quinyon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what I have been seeing circulating and I
Speaker 3: just want to head this off to pass is like, oh,
Speaker 3: people look at a sack numbers.
Speaker 1: We don't really do that as much here on NFL Daily.
Speaker 3: They are important, but he led He was like the
Speaker 3: third in the league in pressure rate the entire year
Speaker 3: in the league, not just among rookies. Jared Verse was
Speaker 3: just getting pressure at nearly double the league average every
Speaker 3: single week except for the Philadelphia Eagles loss and in
Speaker 3: during the season, I think it was like what weeks
Speaker 3: week twelve and I'm already who what day is it?
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I like this. I like this for him.
Speaker 3: He is turning into a bona fide name in a superstar.
Speaker 3: In Los Angeles, they've been waiting to crown their next
Speaker 3: defensive superstar.
Speaker 5: I mean, they have three guys I know in the
Speaker 5: last two years that have come in top three for
Speaker 5: defensive Rookie of the Year and they have Puka Niko
Speaker 5: on the other side.
Speaker 1: That's outrageous.
Speaker 3: And when people are talking about paying certain veteran contracts,
Speaker 3: they're not really thinking about the fact that only one
Speaker 3: of those players has a fifth year.
Speaker 1: Option available to them. And who is that? Jared Verse?
Speaker 1: Their first first round pick, since it's interesting that he won.
Speaker 5: Your point about the pressures and everything and the sacks
Speaker 5: is really interesting because I don't think you would have
Speaker 5: won this award a long time ago, and there's a
Speaker 5: completely reasonable argument the other way.
Speaker 1: Around that actually we're over correcting.
Speaker 5: I spoke with a extreme ball noer last night, and
Speaker 5: you can get who it was, someone inside the league
Speaker 5: who actually think Thoughvers did not deserve this award and
Speaker 5: that Brayden Fisk was a significantly better player, which was
Speaker 5: an interesting take, but a reasonable take.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's right or wrong.
Speaker 3: I thought it as someone who watched every single snap
Speaker 3: from both of them all season. I do think Braden
Speaker 3: Fisk had the better season now in terms of position
Speaker 3: affecting some of the games. Some of the splash plays too,
Speaker 3: that Jared Verse made some of the game changing and
Speaker 3: game altering plays, sealing the Saints game for example.
Speaker 7: Those types of things do stand out.
Speaker 1: Monster Vikings game in prime time the first time around.
Speaker 3: And he's a first round pick, and I know we
Speaker 3: like to think that doesn't factor things in, but sometimes
Speaker 3: it does. I do want to say two years in
Speaker 3: a row, it is interesting at some point will overcorrect
Speaker 3: again because interior defensive linemen who are the rookie sack
Speaker 3: leaders did not win this award, and so you know
Speaker 3: we might And that's so hard. I mean, everyone knows this.
Speaker 3: Who listens, you know, everyone knows this. It is so
Speaker 3: hard to do as an interior defender. And I think
Speaker 3: part of it too was when you look at Jared
Speaker 3: Versus and how he plays. He is just an absolute
Speaker 3: force of nature and it takes you a minute, I think,
Speaker 3: to notice Braidon Fisk, and part of that's the position
Speaker 3: he plays.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the point made to me, which is fair maybe,
Speaker 5: and this is where the over correction comes, is like, yeah,
Speaker 5: but finishing the play is really important. Getting that sack
Speaker 5: is really important. And that's who Jared verse was in
Speaker 5: college too. He didn't always finish the play. But Braidon
Speaker 5: Fist was finishing a lot of plays this year and
Speaker 5: deserved a lot of credit and got it. He came
Speaker 5: in third. Quinn and Mitchell again a lot of years
Speaker 5: would have won that. Yeah, awesome, Cooper Dejene, great season
Speaker 5: comes in fourth, Chop Robinson fifth, It goes on from there.
Speaker 5: Shout out to tar Heeb still by the way, coming
Speaker 5: in seventh, for Rookie of the Year. Pretty cool story
Speaker 5: as a total afterthought in the draft who went to
Speaker 5: the Chargers, Eder and Cooper with the Packers coming in
Speaker 5: sixth there and yeah, we mentioned the comeback. The only
Speaker 5: award we have left is Coach of the Year, which honestly,
Speaker 5: I think we talked about maybe two much on this show,
Speaker 5: and so I don't have much more to say. O'Connell wins.
Speaker 5: It wasn't my choice, but absolutely a great pick. My
Speaker 5: choice Dan Campbell, and my second choice, Reid came in
Speaker 5: second and third. I would add O'Connell third, but I
Speaker 5: think anyway those three wound up would have been great.
Speaker 5: And so Kevin O'Connell gets his first Coach of the
Speaker 5: Year award.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right off of that contract extension news as well,
Speaker 3: So it's been kind of a big few weeks for him.
Speaker 3: Got to catch up with them a little bit before
Speaker 3: we started taping today and it was nice to see
Speaker 3: him say congratulations.
Speaker 7: You know, he was my pick early in this season.
Speaker 3: That being said, I still think it's egregious that Dan
Speaker 3: Campbell got passed over for the sake of the Kevin
Speaker 3: Stefanski vote, and we should make up for that at
Speaker 3: some point.
Speaker 5: In the past you're saying, yeah, because now he's turning
Speaker 5: into the bridesmaid.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 5: That's two years in a row. Second place for Dan Campbell,
Speaker 5: which is unca Yeah.
Speaker 3: And sometimes on my point is sometimes voters correct the
Speaker 3: year after, and they did not do that in mis cap.
Speaker 7: No, wasn't that Cooch And they never have done that
Speaker 7: for Andy Reid.
Speaker 5: Andy Reid got four first place votes. And it's a
Speaker 5: trend with all these awards. The votes were really spread
Speaker 5: out compared to most years where there's a lot of agreement.
Speaker 5: Even O'Connell, who won a lot of you know, by
Speaker 5: a lot, only at half the first place votes. So
Speaker 5: Campbell got some read Sean Payton, Dan Quinn, and then
Speaker 5: when you're looking at the second place votes like Harbob McDermott, Tomlin,
Speaker 5: Sean McVay got a few fourth and fifth place votes
Speaker 5: with La flirt like bowls like so many people got
Speaker 5: votes and I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: So those are your your awards this year, and.
Speaker 3: I am curious about something. You have it all pulled
Speaker 3: up right in front of you. Haven't been able to
Speaker 3: get my tabs to open. Did Sirianni get any votes?
Speaker 5: He got some fourth and fifth He got three fifth
Speaker 5: place votes. Interesting, but and that sounds like, oh, that's
Speaker 5: a lot of pop for Sirianni. But then you go
Speaker 5: down the list, he actually only came in twelfth in
Speaker 5: Coach of the Year voting.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what that was my question, which is it's
Speaker 3: just interesting. That's all just noticing, not judging, just noticing.
Speaker 5: I think it makes sense when you're not the guy
Speaker 5: hiring your coordinators. It's been established and reported that Howie
Speaker 5: Roseman literally hired the coordinators. You're not calling the plays,
Speaker 5: you deserve credit, but when you're also creating some drama
Speaker 5: and distraction, you're not gonna win awards.
Speaker 1: Although I'm totally cool with five you like how.
Speaker 7: I slipped into the host chair to tee you up
Speaker 7: on that.
Speaker 1: I was good. He got three fifth place votes, which
Speaker 1: is totally fair.
Speaker 5: Before we go to all of our interviews, and it's
Speaker 5: going to include someone that got a first place Defensive
Speaker 5: Player of the Year about Andrew Van Ginkell coming up
Speaker 5: later on the show with Aaron Jones.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5: Okay, the class of twenty twenty five really interesting for
Speaker 5: a few reasons. First of all, Sterling Sharp is a
Speaker 5: Hall of Famer. The journey he has been on to
Speaker 5: get to this point is really something. I'll talk about
Speaker 5: that in a second. Antonio Gates one of the greatest
Speaker 5: tight ends of all time. Surprising that he had to
Speaker 5: wait a year, not surprising that he got in this year.
Speaker 5: Jared Allen got in, and Eric Allen got in the
Speaker 5: longtime cornerback of the Eagles, the Saints, and the Raiders
Speaker 5: after a really long way I think it was like
Speaker 5: fifteen years, nineteen years, something.
Speaker 7: Like that, and his fifth time as a finalist.
Speaker 1: Right, very surprising to me.
Speaker 5: And he does have a little bit of a connection
Speaker 5: to New Orleans, although a lot of people did so
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's really what took him over
Speaker 5: the top. Sometimes that happens. Let's talk big picture first.
Speaker 5: Only only four people get in, only one from the
Speaker 5: coaches and contributors. I did read this big Mike Sando
Speaker 5: article on The Athletic that explained why, long story short,
Speaker 5: they made it much more difficult for players to get
Speaker 5: into the Hall of Fame. But Sando has already said
Speaker 5: that they did not expect it to be this difficult.
Speaker 5: Only three modern era people got in it's been five
Speaker 5: every single year for seventeen years. They made it harder
Speaker 5: to get in this year, and because of how the
Speaker 5: math math, only three got in, and I think they
Speaker 5: were a little surprised. I think they thought they might
Speaker 5: go from a seven person class to a five or
Speaker 5: person class.
Speaker 1: Instead it's just four. So they have made this very
Speaker 1: exclusive and left some.
Speaker 5: Big names out, like Eli Manning, like Adam Vinettieri, like
Speaker 5: Luke Keithley was probably my biggest surprise who got left out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was his first year eligible, and it
Speaker 3: was a few people's first year eligible that I think
Speaker 3: we're surprises. This was the smallest UH Hall of Fame
Speaker 3: class in twenty years.
Speaker 1: And I wondered if.
Speaker 3: You could expand a little bit more on why this
Speaker 3: has become as almost as complicated but as difficult as
Speaker 3: it is. And it is one thing, Greg, I know
Speaker 3: you're passionate about it, really I do.
Speaker 5: I like to talk about the players more than anything.
Speaker 5: The process. They've always been tweaking, like they have been
Speaker 5: tweaking for rules, and at a certain point they thought
Speaker 5: it was too hard for coaches and contributors to get in,
Speaker 5: and they started making it to the point where if
Speaker 5: you got through this Seniors committee or coaches committee, you
Speaker 5: basically got Robert Stamp.
Speaker 1: You were in. Now they're all going up against each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so well that's.
Speaker 7: What's happening with Tory Holton Reggie Wayne too.
Speaker 5: So those are two separate buckets. But basically, Shannon Sharp
Speaker 5: gets voted in Sterling Sharp rather I knew I was
Speaker 5: gonna do that, and he was kind of almost going
Speaker 5: up against Homegrin. And once you get to that final vote,
Speaker 5: you have to get eighty percent of the vote, whereas
Speaker 5: before it was just isy in or not, and you
Speaker 5: can have as many people. And it's the same thing
Speaker 5: with the finalists. So they got down to seven finalists.
Speaker 5: I actually don't think we need to get too deep
Speaker 5: in the weeds. But you had to vote at that
Speaker 5: point for five people and you had to get eighty percent.
Speaker 5: That's a lot of agreement, and I think they're gonna
Speaker 5: tweak the procedure to maybe make it not as hard.
Speaker 5: I do want to talk about Sharp because he's the
Speaker 5: type of guy should have never waited this long in
Speaker 5: my mind, got he played seven years, he was a
Speaker 5: wide receiver, he got MVP votes twice, he got offensive
Speaker 5: Players of the Year Top Five twice. He made five
Speaker 5: Pro Bowls. I led the league in receiving three times.
Speaker 5: He led the league in touchdowns a couple times, and
Speaker 5: these were like different years too, like spread out. He
Speaker 5: led the league in recept He is one of the
Speaker 5: best receivers of all time, and he had a neck
Speaker 5: injury that ended his career after seven seasons.
Speaker 1: It's like that guy always should have been in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. He won the Triple Crown.
Speaker 5: We're talking about this Cooper Cup seas and so I'm
Speaker 5: really happy, and I really loved the content where Steve Weish,
Speaker 5: our friend from NFL Daily and obviously NFL Network goes
Speaker 5: around and they knock on the door and they let
Speaker 5: the people know who made the Hall of Fame. And
Speaker 5: there was a very touching moment between Shannon, who obviously
Speaker 5: already in the Hall of Fame and Sterling Sharp as
Speaker 5: he let his brother know the news.
Speaker 4: To have this moment. And I've had some great moments
Speaker 4: in my professional life. This is the proudest moment in
Speaker 4: my life.
Speaker 8: That's how I felt when you win in you know, I.
Speaker 9: Felt like that when you win in and you know,
Speaker 9: I'm not a crier when you said that you were
Speaker 9: in and that weekend that we had in Canton.
Speaker 4: Man, I was like a nun and top in that.
Speaker 1: Oh that is so beautiful, Greg, you're emotional right now.
Speaker 5: I got home last night and at like late, and
Speaker 5: I watched actually because I wanted to catch up on
Speaker 5: all the news and stuff. I didn't watch this, This
Speaker 5: wasn't up yet, but I watched Shannon Sharp at some
Speaker 5: live podcasts. Dude almost do like an eight minute version
Speaker 5: of that and talking about their journey together as brothers
Speaker 5: that Sterling essentially raised him almost as he looks at
Speaker 5: it as like a father, and yeah, maybe it's just
Speaker 5: football brotherhood, like as brothers. The way he's talking about
Speaker 5: his older brother and just everything about it to me
Speaker 5: is it's incredible. And I also really love Sterling Sharp
Speaker 5: as a player, and I remember him just as a fan.
Speaker 5: Really cool and to me, the headliner because he's just uh,
Speaker 5: Shannon is like, you know, he says all the things.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 5: That's Sterling who's a little more stoic like cannot and
Speaker 5: it's very cool.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm just I'm watching your face right now and
Speaker 3: I just I love how much you like, I love
Speaker 3: this for you. Honestly, you can people who are listening
Speaker 3: and Greg Greg has said everything you gotta go watch
Speaker 3: he is.
Speaker 7: He is a little emotional right now. It's very cool
Speaker 7: in the best way.
Speaker 5: In the background of that video that we just listened to,
Speaker 5: Steve Weish is there now. He he knows when to
Speaker 5: lay back, lay back, and it was very very cool.
Speaker 5: I do want to mention the other guys that did
Speaker 5: get in and then we're going to take a break.
Speaker 5: Antonio Gates five All Pros in his career. During the
Speaker 5: peak of Tony Gonzalez's career, Antonio Gates won three straight
Speaker 5: first team All Pros over Tony Gonzalez. Just seeing like
Speaker 5: his prime just so good annoying to me. He had
Speaker 5: to wait a year. He's gonna be the Luke Keighley
Speaker 5: of twenty twenty five. Luke ke Lee will be in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. It's outrageous that Keithley has to wait
Speaker 5: a year because he's obviously a Hall of Famer. And
Speaker 5: that's where this the math is not mathing of how
Speaker 5: they set this up. Jared Allen had that twenty two
Speaker 5: SAX season, but also at a fifteen fourteen and a
Speaker 5: half fourteen and a half and I'll remember him as
Speaker 5: a guy who is really big in terms of the
Speaker 5: player empowerment. He said, I will not play for you
Speaker 5: unless you pay me my fair money. They were offering
Speaker 5: him seven eight million dollars a year and they got
Speaker 5: a first and two thirds for him, and he got
Speaker 5: the biggest contract in the history of the league. Stood
Speaker 5: his ground at a time when that just wasn't happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he spoke up for a lot of people. I
Speaker 3: think after that that was really important.
Speaker 5: And then Eric Allen, as we mentioned, talked to a
Speaker 5: few great ball knowers over this week and they really
Speaker 5: thought this was long overdue. So congratulations to him. I
Speaker 5: want to set up the rest of the show before
Speaker 5: we take a break, so you're gonna be part of it, Jordan,
Speaker 5: but not the entire thing. It's got to be interesting,
Speaker 5: so you won't hear from us again. But we're gonna
Speaker 5: take a break, we're gonna come back. You're gonna hear
Speaker 5: a great interview that we did with Andrew Whitworth, me
Speaker 5: and Jordan good insight on the Matthew Stafford. Listen closely
Speaker 5: to that, Yes, and then I'll say goodbye to you.
Speaker 5: Jordan and then Nick Schuck is going to come in.
Speaker 5: We talked to Jonathan Taylor, we talked to Andrew Van
Speaker 5: Ginkel and Aaron Jones, and we have a great rest
Speaker 5: of the.
Speaker 1: Show after that.
Speaker 5: We have a lot going on going on. Let's take
Speaker 5: a quick break. We'll be back with Andrew whim All right,
Speaker 5: here with Andrew Whitworth, the Rams Super Bowl champion, the
Speaker 5: former Walter Peyton Man of the Year, started two hundred
Speaker 5: and thirty five games in the NFL, and most impressively,
Speaker 5: has been honking on Radio ro since three am.
Speaker 1: Which is an outrageous feat. How are you? How are
Speaker 1: you holding up?
Speaker 10: I'm great, man, I was built for this. I got
Speaker 10: four kids and three dogs. I'm you know, listen, my
Speaker 10: life is a circus.
Speaker 4: So it's great.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad to see you with It's always a
Speaker 3: pleasure when we get to talk football together. Yes, and
Speaker 3: I know that you're here on behalf of Pepsi's well,
Speaker 3: you have some like intricate welding material here.
Speaker 4: No one knows what this is, all right, Being a
Speaker 4: Louisiana guy can explain to you. This is a paddle.
Speaker 4: This is what you use to stir like a crawfish
Speaker 4: or shrimp pot when you're bowling crawfish, bowling shrimp.
Speaker 10: All the potatoes, corn, everything got down there in your season.
Speaker 10: You stir your seasoning in with this. Okay, so this
Speaker 10: is your your bowl paddle. But I'm here with Pepsi
Speaker 10: because of course there's an old lineman. Anytime they offer
Speaker 10: you an opportunity part of something with food's involved, you
Speaker 10: are in. So drinking pepsi and eating food, it's a win.
Speaker 10: But tomorrow, Friday, twelve to two, I'm a part of
Speaker 10: the first ever Pepsi's doing the first ever Super Bowl boil.
Speaker 4: So it's a.
Speaker 10: Competition here in town. Fans vote to their two favorite places,
Speaker 10: Mister Shrimp and Crawling Seafood, and they're gonna compete in
Speaker 10: a bowl off basically, and I'm gonna eat the food
Speaker 10: and then I'm gonna say who I like the most.
Speaker 10: So it's I mean, I don't know how it goes
Speaker 10: bad for me.
Speaker 1: It's a win win win for you. Specifically, Yes, it's.
Speaker 10: Great, right, I can't wait. It's gonna be a blast
Speaker 10: and have some fun. They're gonna win ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 10: Whoever wins I'm supposed to give them this paddle. I
Speaker 10: don't think that's gonna happen. I'm probably gonna keep it.
Speaker 5: But some of my best times eating in my life
Speaker 5: are crawfish boils. I went to the school at two Lane.
Speaker 5: You're loising a guy. I'm not really, but I like.
Speaker 1: To pretend because I was. I was down here. I
Speaker 1: have a feeling this is my city. You hit it,
Speaker 1: you hit it hard.
Speaker 5: Give me some, Give me some. Andrew Whitworth. In college
Speaker 5: eating stories.
Speaker 4: I got some pretty insane stories.
Speaker 10: My favorite one is that, well, I guess, well, maybe
Speaker 10: I can't say this or I can't. My favorite would
Speaker 10: be actually in high school in college when I was dating.
Speaker 4: This is Melissa's favorite.
Speaker 10: My wife, I would go get that was back in
Speaker 10: the taco bell ten for ten days. I used to
Speaker 10: go get like five bean burritos or like five sal
Speaker 10: tacos or whatever, and I would eat a ten for
Speaker 10: ten before I would pick up my dates.
Speaker 4: Because I was so big that I was like worried
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 10: Gonna eat like an animal in front of them, and
Speaker 10: so I'm so nervous that they're gonna see how hungry
Speaker 10: I would get how much food out of order that
Speaker 10: I would go crush a meal then like throw it
Speaker 10: all the way and go pick up my date so
Speaker 10: that I could like try to act like at the table,
Speaker 10: like as a normal person, like, oh, I want to salad,
Speaker 10: and I would.
Speaker 1: Love some back.
Speaker 3: Two reactions to that one iron stomach, because.
Speaker 10: I know you kidding me. Up from Louisiana. We read everything.
Speaker 10: There's not an animal we don't eat.
Speaker 4: I would be a.
Speaker 1: Little bit worried just to be in close press.
Speaker 4: Listen. Yeah, I wasn't worried about the date working out.
Speaker 3: I just want to be And then second reaction is,
Speaker 3: I think we've all seen the photo of you when
Speaker 3: you were a prospect coming out. You know you're I
Speaker 3: think your head was about four sizes. I mean you
Speaker 3: look great, man like.
Speaker 10: It used to be about three sixties. Used to I
Speaker 10: used to be up there. But you know, listen, we're
Speaker 10: in New Orleans. I don't know if you guys know
Speaker 10: this all right? The dome right, yeah, it's it's witsnome. Okay,
Speaker 10: do you know that what.
Speaker 1: You want to championship there is that right?
Speaker 4: All three levels?
Speaker 1: Yes, yep, he owns it.
Speaker 10: I came here four times in high school State Championship
Speaker 10: game one three of them, and uh I played in
Speaker 10: the National Championship with Nick Saban here and won the
Speaker 10: Sugar Bowl Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I remember.
Speaker 10: And then we controversial beat the Saints in the NFC
Speaker 10: Championship here in the Superdome. So I have won five
Speaker 10: titles in the supernow.
Speaker 3: And I know you're a man about the people. So
Speaker 3: when you're here and you're like walking down the street,
Speaker 3: do Saints fans they ever come up?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Saints fans ain'ty.
Speaker 10: Here's the thing. I love the Dome. The Dome doesn't
Speaker 10: love me back. So New Orleans just probably not like
Speaker 10: me very much because of that game. So that's sole reason.
Speaker 10: But you know what, this place is pretty special. My
Speaker 10: first ever football picture promo deal I did, it's actually
Speaker 10: of me. I'll have to send it to you, Jordan.
Speaker 10: I'm standing on top of the Superdome and there's planes
Speaker 10: playing around me like I'm Godzilla and I'm swatting planes
Speaker 10: because it was like all the other high school teams
Speaker 10: trying to figure out if anybody could beat West Burow.
Speaker 10: I think at that time we'd won like forty something
Speaker 10: games in a row, and so yeah, I mean it
Speaker 10: said King of the Dome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I would say suggests that we would
Speaker 3: make a similar promo with Greg.
Speaker 1: But the Hight thing, I don't know if we It's.
Speaker 5: It's like it's like the Twins poster Andrew next to Uh.
Speaker 5: You mentioned Louisiana. I always think it's like an underrated
Speaker 5: football state, not to people that are down in the South,
Speaker 5: but people think Texas first. Louisiana just the level of
Speaker 5: fandom and what a big deal those high school championships
Speaker 5: are down here and everything. And I'm thinking about LSU,
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about your alma mad I'm thinking about Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: I know you have some relationship with Didny Crash on
Speaker 1: your couch One time.
Speaker 10: I used to come watch games with him when he
Speaker 10: was hurt because doctor latrosh was I was the one
Speaker 10: I blew up money and he had gotten injured as well.
Speaker 4: So we watched games together while we were rehaving.
Speaker 1: As a former Bengal.
Speaker 5: This is it's a little tricky, but do you think
Speaker 5: they're going to do right by Joe Burrow in his
Speaker 5: career long term? Because when I look at like Jaydon
Speaker 5: Daniels did our show and does.
Speaker 1: He like Los Angeles follow up.
Speaker 10: I think the tough part with that one is I
Speaker 10: would argue what Joe Burrow has experienced as he's been
Speaker 10: there is they've actually attempted to do that. I mean,
Speaker 10: you look at really, when I played there, there was
Speaker 10: no free agents, Like, we weren't bringing in high end
Speaker 10: pre agent guys. They weren't doing any of that type stuff.
Speaker 10: When Joe got there is when you saw all this
Speaker 10: aggressive change in the organization. The problem is, and I love,
Speaker 10: you know, duking those guys to death, but they've completely
Speaker 10: been just missed on everything they tried to do to
Speaker 10: replace those guys Like Jesse Bates, you're gonna let him walk.
Speaker 10: You gotta be able to replace him. They completely missed
Speaker 10: on replacing him. DJ Reader awesome human, great player. You're
Speaker 10: gonna let him go. You're gonna try to replace him.
Speaker 10: Whift on replacing him now, T Higgins, Jamar Chase, you're
Speaker 10: trying to fair that situation out. Well, you draft a
Speaker 10: receiver last year who has been a complete disaster. You
Speaker 10: whiffed again on trying to replace him. So I think
Speaker 10: they've actually tried to do it. The problem is they've
Speaker 10: just been very poor and the hell.
Speaker 5: They could have had an upgrade out left tackle for
Speaker 5: that Super Bowl when they were playing the Rams.
Speaker 10: Well, that's right, So they didn't do a very good
Speaker 10: job of that. They took two tackles in the first
Speaker 10: to first two rounds.
Speaker 3: I did have a follow up question I had asked it,
Speaker 3: just wondering your thoughts on does he like LA?
Speaker 10: I am sure Joe Burrow loves LA. I mean, my
Speaker 10: guess he's a he's a fashion guy. Uh, you know,
Speaker 10: he loves having a good time, he likes playing golf.
Speaker 10: He would love LA.
Speaker 4: But I think they've tried. I just I think unfortunately
Speaker 4: they've missed the mark.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm thinking about your your team that you followed closely,
Speaker 5: the Rams now and kind of what all that's up
Speaker 5: in the air obviously some of your former teammates Cooper
Speaker 5: cut Stafford. What do you think like he's getting in
Speaker 5: the way of them being a little more committal to
Speaker 5: to Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 10: I think it's I think it's really less about that
Speaker 10: as much as it is all right at some point
Speaker 10: that clock's ticking like he is.
Speaker 4: He's not getting any younger.
Speaker 10: He has played well, but Stafford's also had a lot
Speaker 10: of injuries, have been beat up.
Speaker 4: He plays through a lot.
Speaker 10: He's tough, it's can be and I don't think maybe
Speaker 10: people understand some of the stuff he placed it because
Speaker 10: he's just so damn tough, like.
Speaker 4: You don't realize it.
Speaker 10: Well, that's true, but I think, really, to me, here's
Speaker 10: where I'm at with all that. And this is just
Speaker 10: I'm just speaking out of turn here, But listen, this
Speaker 10: is the best part of our job. Guess we get
Speaker 10: to have all the answers, zero accounability, So it's great. Ah,
Speaker 10: here's what I think since Sean mcday has been the
Speaker 10: head coach in twenty seventeen, the Rams that already leveraged
Speaker 10: all their picks for Jared Goff. Then you enter this
Speaker 10: world where you're trying to put a team together fast
Speaker 10: with this coach that you believe in a bunch. You're
Speaker 10: making a lot of crazy moves. There's no stableness in
Speaker 10: anywhere in the picks and the cap and all this.
Speaker 10: You go win a Super Bowl by getting a ton
Speaker 10: of guys brought in that are off the street, and
Speaker 10: you can't live in that world. Then you re cash
Speaker 10: in thinking you can do it again, and it's a disaster.
Speaker 10: Now you have to flip everything again to try and rebuild.
Speaker 10: You don't have a rebuild. You actually draft great and
Speaker 10: you've now built a great roster. My point is, I
Speaker 10: think a lot of these decisions have a lot more
Speaker 10: to do with how successful Sean mcvay's been in eight
Speaker 10: years without first round picks, without any kind of a
Speaker 10: stable cap or situation.
Speaker 4: And you look at these two teams.
Speaker 10: In the Super Bowl right now and go, how freaking
Speaker 10: good is Sean McVay if we actually gave him a
Speaker 10: stable world where we just drafted solid players, got good
Speaker 10: free agents, kind of just built a normal roster that
Speaker 10: we didn't take big shots and swings, and just let
Speaker 10: him coach and teach and make great football teams year
Speaker 10: in and year out, like Andy Reid and these guys do.
Speaker 10: I think this decision is a lot more to do
Speaker 10: with that Cooper's expensive. Him and Pook are very similar
Speaker 10: guys that do similar things. Let's get cheaper there. You
Speaker 10: know what you're kind of at the end to Stafford,
Speaker 10: is it a year? Is it two years?
Speaker 4: You continue to be here, Let's continue build a.
Speaker 10: Great roster that a rookie or young quarterback could come
Speaker 10: in and be successful in quickly and have a stable situation.
Speaker 10: For Sean McVay to coach, it must.
Speaker 1: Make it makes sense. Yeah, well, I think that's what
Speaker 1: I would commend. You're you're convincing.
Speaker 4: Not that I get into this stuff. I'll just say I.
Speaker 1: Would say too, Andrew. We've talked about this in the past, too.
Speaker 3: Is like it's having one foot in a previous era
Speaker 3: of this team building and then look looking at the
Speaker 3: rest of their the other foot and the rest of
Speaker 3: this roster in the new era of team building. And
Speaker 3: I think what a lot of people when they come
Speaker 3: in here, including people they've traded for, including quarterbacks, they
Speaker 3: think that maybe they are the team. It is Sean
Speaker 3: McVay is the brand of that team, And if you
Speaker 3: aren't clear on it, he makes it clear.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I think it's very clear what he is and who
Speaker 10: he is and what he's done with this group and
Speaker 10: these rookies. And listen, Cooper's had a massive impact. And
Speaker 10: like the thing Cooper will be is they will get
Speaker 10: more players who are like Cooper because of who Cooper was,
Speaker 10: the impact he's had on that building and everyone in it,
Speaker 10: and who they've been able to identify.
Speaker 4: This is what we win with.
Speaker 10: That's why Pukinaku is here like all those and Karen Williams,
Speaker 10: that's why he's there, like they identify those people now
Speaker 10: in a much better way because of a guy like Cooper,
Speaker 10: So his impact will live on. Unfortunately he's on the
Speaker 10: wrong side of You're a really expensive receiver who we
Speaker 10: kind of already have a guy who could do a
Speaker 10: lot of those similar things, And wouldn't we rather go
Speaker 10: maybe invest in a guy who take the top off
Speaker 10: the defense.
Speaker 4: You go along with Pooka and maybe you.
Speaker 10: Know another tight end that that's kind of a high
Speaker 10: market guy or something like. There's other pieces that we
Speaker 10: could add to make those role playing positions matter. And
Speaker 10: I think that's the big thing when you're building a ross.
Speaker 5: If these moves happen, they should have you explain it.
Speaker 5: You're better at it than the.
Speaker 1: Lesson sean. They'll get all defensive and become a you know.
Speaker 4: One of these former players. I think they know what
Speaker 4: they're doing.
Speaker 1: Just you explain it, don't let less explain. Okay, yeah, answer.
Speaker 5: I really appreciate the time here with PEPSI obviously also
Speaker 5: check out Andrew Whitworth's new podcast with Baby.
Speaker 10: I think it should be witting fits he calls it
Speaker 10: fits in with you know whatever it's They were already
Speaker 10: in tiff.
Speaker 5: You know it's outstanding. U so check that out. Appreciate
Speaker 5: the time.
Speaker 4: Andrew, Yeah, appreciate it, man. Thank you.
Speaker 5: Excited to welcome into the show. Jonathan Taylor of the
Speaker 5: Indianapolis Colts. Uh much like the guy in the Super
Speaker 5: Bowl Saquon Barkley when when Jonathan Taylor is in the
Speaker 5: open field, no one is catching him from behind.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Jo, Thank you man.
Speaker 8: I appreciate you guys having me on today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're here with Dary Queen. We'll talk about that
Speaker 5: a little later. I do think about you, actually when
Speaker 5: when I think about this Saquon season. Actually, so I
Speaker 5: am gonna start there, because you had a two thousand
Speaker 5: yard season, you had a twenty touchdown season all together,
Speaker 5: and it kind of makes me think, what Saquans He's
Speaker 5: been in the league for a while. How much do
Speaker 5: you think a season like that comes down to you,
Speaker 5: the runner? And how much do you think it comes
Speaker 5: down to all the players around him?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 8: Man, it's one hundred percent the players around you.
Speaker 9: The only thing that really happens, and really not even that.
Speaker 9: Most of the time is once you hit the open field,
Speaker 9: it's like, okay, do you have enough juice in the
Speaker 9: tank to get there? But first of all, I mean,
Speaker 9: you got to get through the line of scrimmage, you
Speaker 9: got to get through the trenches. You got to make
Speaker 9: sure your guys, especially with us with the double teams
Speaker 9: the offensive line, are getting to the second level to
Speaker 9: the backers. And then really a lot of those explosive
Speaker 9: runs come from the receivers holding blocks on the outside.
Speaker 9: And like I said, sometimes okay, let's say maybe a
Speaker 9: receiver miss a block, you may out run a guy.
Speaker 8: But for the most part, it takes everybody.
Speaker 11: It's just like a math equation at that point, right,
Speaker 11: there's just less defenders to make miss when you're in
Speaker 11: the open field.
Speaker 8: Exactly, that's it. And every player is designed to score.
Speaker 9: I like to tell people that every play is really
Speaker 9: designed to score, otherwise, like why would you really draw
Speaker 9: it up? And it's like, if everybody does their job,
Speaker 9: it should execute perfectly. But then of course you have
Speaker 9: some people like say Kuon that are special and he
Speaker 9: can just jump over somebody.
Speaker 8: Backwards and.
Speaker 11: Yeah, definitely now, how about the change that you guys
Speaker 11: have undergone the last few years. You obviously know you've
Speaker 11: had some health issues and everything else, but yet a
Speaker 11: healthy yer largely this year and we saw who you've
Speaker 11: been in years past. Was that satisfying to you to
Speaker 11: know that I still have this in the tank? I
Speaker 11: prove that I could definitely still do this at a
Speaker 11: high level.
Speaker 8: It was more just so okay, I can get back
Speaker 8: on track of.
Speaker 9: Being healthy, because before, you know, never missed game, never
Speaker 9: miss a practice, and you know, putting it in perspective
Speaker 9: out of my whole career, took until year three or
Speaker 9: so four in the league to finally miss something at
Speaker 9: that position that just doesn't happen. So just now, my
Speaker 9: main focus was, Okay, now I have to start a
Speaker 9: new streak, you know, and we got to see how
Speaker 9: long this goes, how many years I can have a
Speaker 9: new streak of not missing anything. But the injury rate
Speaker 9: in the NFL is one hundred percent. You do as
Speaker 9: much as you can to mitigate that risk. But now
Speaker 9: I'm working on starting a new streak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a fun scheme.
Speaker 5: With Shane Styken, obviously that the big the two thousand
Speaker 5: yard season is in a different scheme. What is it
Speaker 5: about this scheme with Shane Styke And they obviously decide
Speaker 5: to go with continuity, which I think made a lot
Speaker 5: of sense with your coaching staff. And what is unique
Speaker 5: about running behind this scheme that that Shane runs.
Speaker 9: It's just so many options, Like it keeps the defense honest,
Speaker 9: It keeps them on their toes. You know, you're either
Speaker 9: handing the ball off, AR is either keeping it, AR
Speaker 9: has an advantage throw.
Speaker 8: It's like just literally you have to play.
Speaker 9: Honest, And I think that's why we have the opportunity
Speaker 9: to be explosive and to put a lot of points
Speaker 9: on the board because defenses can't just hone in on
Speaker 9: one aspect.
Speaker 11: You're that late season run this year, you're putting up
Speaker 11: stupid totals like it was like, oh, there he is,
Speaker 11: and he's just leading them to victory single handling. At
Speaker 11: one point, you run a touchdown and you end up in
Speaker 11: the tunnel. What was that like for you to enjoy
Speaker 11: that type of success?
Speaker 8: It was awesome.
Speaker 9: I always accredit kind of my end of the season
Speaker 9: play to my high school coach montre Wright at that time.
Speaker 9: He always mentioned you want to play your best ball
Speaker 9: in November and December, so they're now translating that to
Speaker 9: the league.
Speaker 8: Of course, at the end of the season December January.
Speaker 9: You really want to be hitting on all cylinders because
Speaker 9: those are the games that's going to propel you into
Speaker 9: that postseason.
Speaker 5: What's it been like being next to you know, you
Speaker 5: mentioned Ar He obviously lost the starting job for a
Speaker 5: couple of games this year, then he gets back in
Speaker 5: the in the lineup that there's been moments, certainly as
Speaker 5: a rookie when he was healthy where you see you
Speaker 5: see all the potential. But what's it been like kind
Speaker 5: of being and being next to him in along for
Speaker 5: this journey because obviously you're your futures, your team's future,
Speaker 5: you're all tied together.
Speaker 9: Definitely, and you know, trying to just be back there
Speaker 9: and have him feel as comfortable as possible to let
Speaker 9: him know I have your back. I think people really
Speaker 9: forget the fact that he's really young. There are guys
Speaker 9: coming in the draft this year that are like twenty four.
Speaker 5: We just talked to Jaydan Daniels and he's significantly younger
Speaker 5: than Jade Daniels.
Speaker 1: They Richards.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so I don't think like thirteen games in college,
Speaker 9: fifteen in the NFL. Like he's really young, but like
Speaker 9: you said, you've seen the flashes, You've seen the potential.
Speaker 9: So this offseason, him putting together a great offseason and
Speaker 9: then all of us coming together and having a great
Speaker 9: training camp to be able to have something special happen
Speaker 9: in India.
Speaker 11: Yeah, what do you think the Missy yellmen is going
Speaker 11: into the season.
Speaker 9: I think for well, number one, like I mentioned, just
Speaker 9: him just getting reps, you know, him just getting reps.
Speaker 9: But now he has a few reps under his belt.
Speaker 9: Now is on one us as a supporting cast. We
Speaker 9: got to make those plays in the critical moments. The
Speaker 9: thing that the Eagles and the Chiefs do very well
Speaker 9: hents why they're here. It's situational ball, whether you're on
Speaker 9: the fringe of field goal range, making sure you get there, hey,
Speaker 9: not taking a sack in certain situation. That is what
Speaker 9: gets you into the big game, is being very great situation.
Speaker 5: Does Shane have you, like watched some of their old
Speaker 5: Eagles scheme when he was back in here the twenty
Speaker 5: twenty two season, just to let you know, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Definitely, what do you learn from that?
Speaker 9: He's such a guru. Listen, there's a funny story. There's
Speaker 9: actually times at practice it's just like the movie. You're
Speaker 9: walking on that practice, he's like, hey, JT. Kamire, this
Speaker 9: is what I'm thinking about. Running little piece of paper
Speaker 9: or has a pen draws up a play? I think
Speaker 9: I'll run a third period. And you have when you
Speaker 9: have a coach like that, a guru like that who's
Speaker 9: constantly thinking of ways to scheme the opposing defense, out
Speaker 9: coach the other coach and put his players in a
Speaker 9: position for success.
Speaker 8: That's all you can ask for.
Speaker 11: Have you had one of those players come through in
Speaker 11: a game.
Speaker 8: Definitely?
Speaker 9: Definitely, And it's like insane because it hit exactly how
Speaker 9: he said, not like oh I could hit, but it
Speaker 9: was just a little different.
Speaker 8: It's like they hit exactly how he said it was
Speaker 8: going to.
Speaker 1: It's the same. What uh? What's something people wouldn't know about?
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor?
Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, this Colts team somewhat under
Speaker 5: the raidar not so much on this show because we
Speaker 5: have a co host. She's not here today, Colleen Wolf.
Speaker 5: Every year she's just picking y'all to go all the way.
Speaker 5: So you got to make her. You got to make
Speaker 5: her look right one of these years. What's something about
Speaker 5: the Colts maybe and Jonathan Taylor especially that the average
Speaker 5: fan want to know.
Speaker 9: I think people don't understand of how much how much
Speaker 9: fun we have working, like I know everybody. Of course
Speaker 9: we want to win more games, but I think a
Speaker 9: big part of that is enjoying the process and enjoying
Speaker 9: the work. So us at practice, we're actually having a
Speaker 9: good time out there working, busting our tails. And I
Speaker 9: think if you don't enjoy the process, if you go
Speaker 9: out there dragging your fee, have your head down like, Okay,
Speaker 9: you got another day of practice, another day of pads,
Speaker 9: I don't think it's gonna be very productive. It's not
Speaker 9: gonna be a great practice. So we actually enjoyed the work.
Speaker 9: We enjoy the practice, and that's half the battle.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling the energy right now.
Speaker 11: I'm kind of getting almost ready to strap it.
Speaker 1: On all those heavy meals we've been having.
Speaker 5: I'm starting to feel like I can go out and
Speaker 5: work out. This guy I mean ridiculous, I mean, I
Speaker 5: Jathan this, No, I did not, did you Jonathan before
Speaker 5: coming out to do these interviews?
Speaker 9: Definitely definitely for sure that you got first I did
Speaker 9: leg day. At the end of the day, the legs
Speaker 9: feed the wolf.
Speaker 8: Yes, at the end of the day.
Speaker 11: Never skip it.
Speaker 5: Never, That's why, That's why he is an absolute professional.
Speaker 1: Jonathan.
Speaker 5: I know you you're here with with Dairy Queen talking
Speaker 5: about game day food this week to tell us about that.
Speaker 9: Darry Queen has been taking tremendous care of me during
Speaker 9: the season. Out of season, but I'm here on behalf
Speaker 9: of their new sauce and toass honey barbecue chicken strips.
Speaker 8: It's a favorite of mine.
Speaker 9: But I always like to pair with their Oreo Blizzard
Speaker 9: treat because that's oh yeah, it's like a match made
Speaker 9: in heaven, Like especially after a big game like like
Speaker 9: Tennessee game that I had this past season, going to
Speaker 9: Dry Queen.
Speaker 11: You know you hit me in my heart. I used
Speaker 11: to work at Darry Queen High School. Really yeah, I
Speaker 11: was on the Blizzard machine doing all that stuff.
Speaker 5: I just I can't imagine, like rolling up to Dairy Queen,
Speaker 5: the big old shook his.
Speaker 11: Get more people in there. Here's the protein. He's a
Speaker 11: chicken tenders.
Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor, great to have you on the show. Looking
Speaker 5: forward to what the Colts are going to do in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you.
Speaker 8: Thank you guys very much for taking a time out.
Speaker 5: All right, we are here with two of the best
Speaker 5: cornerbacks in the league because they played for the New
Speaker 5: England Patriots, Christian Gonzalez and Jonathan Jones. Jordan Rodrieg already
Speaker 5: embarrassingly brought up that I am a Patriots fan, so
Speaker 5: I'm not even trying to be unbiased in this interview.
Speaker 12: Welcome to the show, guys, appreciate it, thanks for having us,
Speaker 12: Thank you guys for having us.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask first, like, have you have you
Speaker 1: guys heard from Mike Rabel at all? I have not,
Speaker 1: yan't he ain't called me, so.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I got a chance to Yeah, I got a
Speaker 13: chance to stop buying and talk to him.
Speaker 1: That's first time. So you've been even with the team
Speaker 1: a long time? Jonathan? Uh? Has he is?
Speaker 5: He like reaching out talking a little bit to some
Speaker 5: of the veterans that have been there for a while.
Speaker 13: I was just in a facility, so I kind of
Speaker 13: got to bump into him while I was in there
Speaker 13: and have moment to talk to him.
Speaker 4: Kind of exciting.
Speaker 1: What do you guys know about him?
Speaker 3: I mean his reputation and obviously I know you're familiar
Speaker 3: with him in the past as well, but like his
Speaker 3: reputation sort of walks into the building before he even does.
Speaker 7: Just how well regarded he has been across the league.
Speaker 3: What do you know about him? And are you excited
Speaker 3: for this sort of new era with him?
Speaker 12: I mean, I just know a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 12: I don't know too much about him. I mean, I
Speaker 12: heard he's a good coach. I heard he's like a.
Speaker 4: Raw, raw guy.
Speaker 12: So I mean, I'm I'm excited to see how how
Speaker 12: things get going.
Speaker 5: You're here, You're here with Bounty and you're kind of
Speaker 5: wearing Eagles colors. There is that like your AFC guys
Speaker 5: and sick of the.
Speaker 1: Chiefs win in there? No, no, no, no, that's Bounty Green.
Speaker 1: Let's be clear, Like.
Speaker 5: Jonaan you were you were in that game AFC Championship
Speaker 5: against the Chiefs back in the twenty eighteen season. I'm
Speaker 5: just thinking about and you can think about this too,
Speaker 5: if you're going to against Mahomes, Like, what were some
Speaker 5: do you remember some coaching points maybe that Belichick had
Speaker 5: that the Patriots had when when you would go up
Speaker 5: against Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 13: Uh, just try to keep him from killing you.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not really much you can do to
Speaker 4: limit him.
Speaker 13: You're just trying to go out there and compete, because
Speaker 13: at the end of the day, he's such an incredible talent.
Speaker 4: He can make every throw.
Speaker 13: So you definitely we're kind of glad they ran out
Speaker 13: of time because they were coming back in that game.
Speaker 4: And so he's a heck of a player.
Speaker 1: You had him in the first half. Yeah, you've heard that.
Speaker 3: I mean, you have to exploit every margin against him, right,
Speaker 3: because he knows all of them.
Speaker 7: He knows all the tricks. We've seen this and he
Speaker 7: has such tenure.
Speaker 3: And I guess I wonder you know, when you're coming
Speaker 3: into the league, Christian and you're watching him play, and
Speaker 3: obviously he was there a few years before you were
Speaker 3: and watching this new generation of quarterbacks sort of led
Speaker 3: by him, What were your impress And then Jonathan, for
Speaker 3: you, you're like, all right, buckle in, here we go, a
Speaker 3: bunch of new guys coming in to defend. What were
Speaker 3: your first impressions of kind of this wave of quarterbacks
Speaker 3: who can side arm, they can create out a structure,
Speaker 3: they can do these sort of mahomes light things.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean just I mean to go back to college,
Speaker 12: that's kind of you. So I saw that every week.
Speaker 12: So I feel like it's just more like the newer side,
Speaker 12: the newer age of football, which I mean only makes
Speaker 12: me and Jay Jones' job harder. You know, we're out
Speaker 12: there covering and you can be in a perfect spot,
Speaker 12: but they can, you know, twist their body an inch
Speaker 12: and be able to get a better throw, a better angle.
Speaker 12: So but I mean it makes it harder, but also
Speaker 12: makes it more fun because it's you know, they we
Speaker 12: know that they got superstars back there, and it just,
Speaker 12: like he said, boils down to competing. And I mean
Speaker 12: that's what we do, is compete for a living. So
Speaker 12: anything to make it more competitive, we invite the challenge.
Speaker 3: It is like, are they more prepared? I mean, I
Speaker 3: know you have to be more prepared with them. Are
Speaker 3: they more prepared as they enter the league?
Speaker 13: Well, I kind of came into the league with a
Speaker 13: teammate at quarterback.
Speaker 4: Who was about as prepared as you could get that guy.
Speaker 13: Yeah, And so like facing that a practice every day,
Speaker 13: just seeing how meticulous that he was, and seeing that
Speaker 13: the younger guys are starting to come into the league
Speaker 13: and just better. You know, they're better from a young
Speaker 13: age able to play younger. Some of that just comes
Speaker 13: down to what you know, coaches and office of coordinators
Speaker 13: are you know, letting them do I think they're kind
Speaker 13: of letting them play their style of football and not
Speaker 13: trying to make everybody, you know, a pocket passer and
Speaker 13: get the ball every out and three steps and things
Speaker 13: like that. And so you have a lot of offensive
Speaker 13: coordinators now that are bringing in these youngest quarterbacks and
Speaker 13: allowing to be themselves.
Speaker 5: So Chris Christians the second team All Pro as a
Speaker 5: second year player, I feel like the country because the
Speaker 5: Patriots weren't on a lot of national TV games this year.
Speaker 5: Obviously we're coming off the injury in your rookie year.
Speaker 5: Don't know a ton about Christian. I want to ask you,
Speaker 5: John Then, as his teammate, what makes him good? What
Speaker 5: makes him unique as a cornerback?
Speaker 13: Well, I want to first say that's I'm on record
Speaker 13: for going on my Christian Gonzalas parade all the last
Speaker 13: off season.
Speaker 4: But no, I've seen him come in and.
Speaker 13: Work and just see the attributes that he has as
Speaker 13: a corner He's a prototypical corner that you want to build.
Speaker 13: And at the same time, he just works hard no
Speaker 13: matter what it is. He comes in every day, doesn't
Speaker 13: say too much. I'm surprised you guys are getting an
Speaker 13: interview out of him, but I'm so stoked.
Speaker 1: I heard you were quiet, and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, he's talking. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 13: Yeah, but he comes in and works hard and he
Speaker 13: has the speed, the length, everything that you want out
Speaker 13: of the corner.
Speaker 5: You feel awkward now hearing nice things about you, Christian
Speaker 5: because you do kind of give up.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm going to make you feel even more awkward.
Speaker 5: You almost give off the vibe that you play with,
Speaker 5: which is very smooth. I was trying to think of,
Speaker 5: like how I would describe your style, and you're not
Speaker 5: moving slowly obviously, but it sort of just all looks
Speaker 5: very smooth and under control on the field. Is that
Speaker 5: that like on purpose? That's just how it is?
Speaker 1: I mean a little bit of both.
Speaker 12: I mean, I've just come from a very athletic family,
Speaker 12: a track background, so I grew up running tracks, so
Speaker 12: I kind of I learned the correct way to run,
Speaker 12: which I feel like it's not taught anymore. So I've
Speaker 12: always got that compliment of like I look smooth or
Speaker 12: or it used to be not a compliment when I
Speaker 12: was young. It used to get yelled at all the
Speaker 12: time of oh, you're not trying, You're not You're not
Speaker 12: doing that. But it's just that's kind of how I
Speaker 12: am on the field and off. It's just very even
Speaker 12: key you.
Speaker 4: I don't really.
Speaker 3: Someone once compared you, and I want to know what
Speaker 3: you think about this, Jonathan, Like someone once compared you
Speaker 3: to me as like you know, when you watch a
Speaker 3: duck swimming across a pond and their legs are paddling
Speaker 3: furiously under the water, but they're so smooth you don't
Speaker 3: even know. You barely see a ripple, but you know
Speaker 3: the effort is just going crazy underneath the water, but
Speaker 3: you just can't see it. That That's how that person
Speaker 3: a scout the league describe me, described you to me.
Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, I mean, like, let's save
Speaker 3: the writing for the writers, right, But like, you know, I've.
Speaker 1: Never heard that one before. But what do you I mean,
Speaker 1: yeah too too, and drills to playing.
Speaker 4: He's just just move for you.
Speaker 3: I mean, what is it like to play with I mean,
Speaker 3: you've played with so many different people. You've led for
Speaker 3: so long, you know, and brought up the young guys
Speaker 3: even as you were growing yourself, you know. And so
Speaker 3: what is it like for you to, I guess, you know,
Speaker 3: help someone grow up a little bit in the league,
Speaker 3: but also have that presence that sort of seems to
Speaker 3: me beyond his years alongside you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes it easy.
Speaker 13: I always remember, like having vets like Devin and things
Speaker 13: they would say about me, Just say, hey, you come in,
Speaker 13: you work hard, you don't cause any problems. And so
Speaker 13: when you have the young guys who do those things,
Speaker 13: and they're also talented, it just makes it a lot
Speaker 13: easier to be in that room. I just get to
Speaker 13: focus on football. There's no distractions off the field, there's
Speaker 13: nothing else you have to worry about them coming in
Speaker 13: and getting better at football.
Speaker 5: I want to get your thoughts on what it's like
Speaker 5: to practice with Drake, mate, because like Jordan said, I'm
Speaker 5: a Patriots fan. We got we got the young cornerback
Speaker 5: cornerback in the league. But before I do that, do
Speaker 5: you know about Jonathan's Super Bowl experiences? He told you
Speaker 5: at all about that that he has a sack in
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, and it was almost a controversial sack.
Speaker 5: He hit Jared Goff going out of bounds in the
Speaker 5: fourth quarter of the Super Bowl. At that point, it's
Speaker 5: only three to three. They're driving and he hits them
Speaker 5: so hard. He goes flying headfirst into the first down marker,
Speaker 5: and all the Patriots fans watching that are like, oh man,
Speaker 5: are they gonna flag that? That would put them in
Speaker 5: field going. They didn't call the flag. It was the
Speaker 5: right call. I'm glad you laid him out. Maybe that
Speaker 5: put him in a bad spot the rest of the game,
Speaker 5: but he can. He can bring the wood. Here in
Speaker 5: his only Super Bowl he got a sack. Not many
Speaker 5: cornerbacks doing that.
Speaker 12: I mean, I've probably seen them play, but I mean
Speaker 12: just from from playing with him and seeing the things
Speaker 12: you do.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't question. I know he go up
Speaker 1: there and go lay it. Do you do you remember
Speaker 1: that moment where you were worried?
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: I tell guys, wash the feet, wash the feet.
Speaker 13: And I'm like, the whole time I'm running to him,
Speaker 13: I'm watching his feet.
Speaker 4: He took one more step in bounds and I shot
Speaker 4: my shot.
Speaker 1: He is slow, shared guy. I thought it was clean.
Speaker 1: Just saying not just because you're here.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: What has it been like practicing against Drake May?
Speaker 5: What what did he show you kind of as a rookie,
Speaker 5: and and what was that progress like throughout the course
Speaker 5: of the season.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean he's something he's out of talent and
Speaker 13: you kind of could see that from day one. He's
Speaker 13: just improved so much on his decision making. I mean,
Speaker 13: that's what quarterback kind of comes down to, and just
Speaker 13: seeing him out there and practice the decision making, the
Speaker 13: confidence that he has. It's kind of the things you
Speaker 13: look for in the young players. Just do they have
Speaker 13: the confidence? If you get drafted that high, you have
Speaker 13: the ability, it's just can you transfer that over?
Speaker 3: I want to ask what the dynamic is because it's
Speaker 3: got to be hard to build confidence against you guys.
Speaker 1: I mean in training camp.
Speaker 3: I know, during the season he's not taking a lot
Speaker 3: of reps against you guys, but in the training Campscot,
Speaker 3: you know, some of the live sessions and the live periods.
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys have to be giving him hell, right,
Speaker 3: I Mean that's just that's just the way of the corner, right,
Speaker 3: So how do you build from his perspective? I guess,
Speaker 3: how do you build confidence? And how do you guys?
Speaker 3: I know you're not going easy on him, but how
Speaker 3: do you like talk him up? Even if you pick
Speaker 3: him off, or even if you make a play on
Speaker 3: something he does.
Speaker 12: I think it it just goes back to like being competitive,
Speaker 12: like he knows it's that's only going to get him better.
Speaker 12: I feel like that's he He kind of encourages it.
Speaker 12: He'll I mean, me and me and Drake got lockers
Speaker 12: like right next to each other. So he'll he'll come
Speaker 12: in and you know, he'll talk a little smack, He'll
Speaker 12: he'll do a little thing. So I think that's just
Speaker 12: how he is as a person. He invites the competition
Speaker 12: and he knows that it's like it's part of it
Speaker 12: that's only going to get him better.
Speaker 5: So you guys are here with Bounty. I mentioned it before.
Speaker 5: Tell us a little bit about what you're doing with Bounty.
Speaker 13: Yeah, we're working on a partnership. You know with Bounty,
Speaker 13: they have the wings super Bowl. I think they said
Speaker 13: there's four billion wings. Are you gonna beating wings on
Speaker 13: Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm more if.
Speaker 14: I'm give it to us, If they give it to us,
Speaker 14: I will but no next week, so their partnership with
Speaker 14: Bounty and just just cleaning up messes and out here
Speaker 14: supporting then.
Speaker 5: All right, appreciate you, Christian Gonzales Jonathan Jones of the
Speaker 5: New England Patriots. It's a new era, but like the
Speaker 5: old era with the Patriots, it starts in the secondary.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: It's like we're throwing it back to thy law and
Speaker 5: lawyer Maloy. Yeah, a little bit. Thank you guys for joining.
Speaker 8: Appreciate all right.
Speaker 5: We are here with two of the most electric players
Speaker 5: at their positions in the entire NFL and of course
Speaker 5: of the Minnesota Vikings, Andrew Van Ginkel and Aaron Jones.
Speaker 1: Aaron is just chilling here with the sunglasses.
Speaker 15: And always kick man.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, here with Bownie. We'll hear about that.
Speaker 5: And it's like I gotta start with the lead news here,
Speaker 5: which we talked about earlier in our show. Are you
Speaker 5: where you got a first place vote Andrew for Defensive
Speaker 5: Player of the Year on Thursday night, We're talking.
Speaker 1: Let's go, yeah you are. That's pretty special.
Speaker 16: And obviously coming into a new team, new organization and
Speaker 16: having coaches and everybody believe in me, Flores bringing me
Speaker 16: in and having that belief and put me in positions
Speaker 16: to make plays. It's definitely surreal and something it's very
Speaker 16: special to me.
Speaker 1: It's pretty it's pretty cool.
Speaker 5: So when people type up Andrew Van Gingle in the
Speaker 5: future and they have the Defensive Player of the Year voting,
Speaker 5: you ended up coming in seventh overall and you got
Speaker 5: one of the first place votes. I'm loving that. I'm breaking.
Speaker 5: What is it about Brian Flores's defense that like brings
Speaker 5: out the best in you that's fun to play in.
Speaker 1: I think it's very.
Speaker 16: You know, you just have to be smart, dependable, and
Speaker 16: you know, you gotta love football, and that's something that
Speaker 16: he preaches. And you know, when you allow his scheme
Speaker 16: and take advantage of where he's putting you doing certain
Speaker 16: things to put you in play positions to make plays
Speaker 16: and be successful. And you know, that's something that I
Speaker 16: pride myself on, is just being accountable, being in the
Speaker 16: right spot at the right time, running to the ball,
Speaker 16: high effort. And it's something that Flores appreciates. And you know,
Speaker 16: obviously he drafted me to Miami and was part of
Speaker 16: the reason I'm in Minnesota. So he's got that belief
Speaker 16: in me and confidence, and you know, when you got
Speaker 16: a coach like that, it allows you to play fast
Speaker 16: and have fun and at the end of the day,
Speaker 16: it allows you to make plays. And the plays come
Speaker 16: to you and just got to make them.
Speaker 11: Yeah, speaking of being in position, in the right position
Speaker 11: at the right time, that's like your knack, Like that's
Speaker 11: just what you do. That's what you've made your name.
Speaker 11: Two interceptions this year, both returned for touchdowns. You almost
Speaker 11: had another one in Week eighteen against the Try. I'm
Speaker 11: sure you still think about it. Yeah, what is it
Speaker 11: about that? Like what where did you get that that
Speaker 11: just innate sense to be in the right place at
Speaker 11: the right time.
Speaker 16: I think it's just I love for football. I love
Speaker 16: watching football. I love being around football. I'm you know,
Speaker 16: if I'm not playing it, I'm watching it or you know,
Speaker 16: talking about it and just having that instinct that just
Speaker 16: you know, I can see things before they happen, and
Speaker 16: I try to envision it, and you know, you know, I've.
Speaker 1: Had great coaches too.
Speaker 16: I've had fan Jo, I've had Flores and then all
Speaker 16: the ton of assistant coach Campinelly who's.
Speaker 1: Now the Jaguars DC guys that have.
Speaker 16: Taught me football, and you know how teams are trying
Speaker 16: to attack us, and you know from week to week
Speaker 16: it's kind of similar. So I'm just taking that and
Speaker 16: using it going forward.
Speaker 5: See seeing the game ahead of time. I think you
Speaker 5: have that in common with your teammate here, Aaron Jones.
Speaker 5: Is one of the things I always enjoy watching you,
Speaker 5: Aaron is you You seem to set up your blockers
Speaker 5: very well. You can be patient, and you seem to
Speaker 5: have an idea of what the defense is going to
Speaker 5: do before they do it.
Speaker 1: Like, how did you learn that? What's the keys to
Speaker 1: doing that?
Speaker 17: I think it's just just playing the game for a while.
Speaker 17: The more the more reps you get, the more more
Speaker 17: you see. And then Kanye how he how what he
Speaker 17: hit on the coaching, You're you're getting coached up, so
Speaker 17: you're you know what they're what the defense is trying
Speaker 17: to do. If if our goal is to run outside zone,
Speaker 17: you know they're it may not get outside, but you you.
Speaker 15: Have to stay on your keys.
Speaker 17: You gotta press the aim point to get the guy
Speaker 17: to move and then put your foot in the ground.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 17: Just just kind of some of those things. And uh
Speaker 17: also just I guess the kind of well, I was
Speaker 17: gonna say seeing it before it happened, but but uh,
Speaker 17: what's the word. I can't think of the word, But
Speaker 17: just kind of being on your toes really like not predicting,
Speaker 17: but seeing what's happening before it happens, or thinking like, okay,
Speaker 17: this is if my if this guy's in a three
Speaker 17: technique and the backers over here they're they're doubling to him,
Speaker 17: but if he sees me do this, then I'm gonna
Speaker 17: I'm gonna do this. So just kind of already having
Speaker 17: a plan in your head.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and you're able to react to that because you've
Speaker 11: had so many reps doing that, right, Yes, you've gotten
Speaker 11: a lot of reps on both sides of this rivalry
Speaker 11: between Minnesota and Green Bay from the time with the backers.
Speaker 11: But early in the season it kind of struck me
Speaker 11: because obviously you had a great year, you seemed really
Speaker 11: grateful to be with the Vikings. What did you experience
Speaker 11: in your first year with Minnesota that made you realize
Speaker 11: this was the right choice.
Speaker 17: Just the management, my teammates, the support staff there, uh,
Speaker 17: the locker room, just everything that that's a great place
Speaker 17: to be.
Speaker 15: They really take care of you. They take care of
Speaker 15: your family.
Speaker 17: Uh, it's a it's a family like family first organization.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 15: It is just a blessing to be in Minnesota.
Speaker 17: The support that they showed us, even from just when
Speaker 17: the moment I signed, uh signed my name on the
Speaker 17: dotted line, they they just showed nothing beloved to me
Speaker 17: and my family and continued to show that through all
Speaker 17: throughout the season. So, uh, they we have we have
Speaker 17: great fans in Minnesota. The stadium there is electrics. To me,
Speaker 17: is the best place to play.
Speaker 5: So yeah, what's it like going up against uh this
Speaker 5: defense in camp? I can imagine like they're throwing a
Speaker 5: lot at you that's not letting you kind of do
Speaker 5: the plays that you want to just run and camp
Speaker 5: as you're learning the offense.
Speaker 15: So so at first in camp it was it was smooth.
Speaker 15: They were taking it easy.
Speaker 17: They were they may they may bring one blitz, not
Speaker 17: getting into any hard looks. But towards week three week
Speaker 17: for the end of camp, they're getting in all these
Speaker 17: looks and you're like, you're able to scratch your head
Speaker 17: and la, We've as a offense, we gotta we gotta
Speaker 17: speed this up, our protections everything to be able to
Speaker 17: compete with these guys at practice, and I think they
Speaker 17: they truly made us better this year. And uh, when
Speaker 17: when we were going against them and we'd have a
Speaker 17: little success, We're like, Okay, well we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 17: be good this year because this is this is a
Speaker 17: great bunch that we're practicing against every day. And then
Speaker 17: they also get in so many different looks. You don't
Speaker 17: know who's coming. So being able to practice against that
Speaker 17: on a daily basis, it prepares you for uh, when
Speaker 17: you when you're out there going against another defense, you
Speaker 17: you've seen it all at that point.
Speaker 11: Yeah, competition brings out the best in you guys, and
Speaker 11: it seemed like that's what we got from this team
Speaker 11: in twenty twenty four. What about playing under Kevin O'Connell,
Speaker 11: who's a guy who's still you know, in his first
Speaker 11: few years as a head coach. Seemed like you guys
Speaker 11: just had were steady, like you knew where you wanted
Speaker 11: to go and really most people weren't stopping you for
Speaker 11: most of this year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it.
Speaker 16: You know, it starts with doing routine things routinely, just
Speaker 16: things that you do on a weekly basis, on a
Speaker 16: daily basis, you know, taking it from meetings out to
Speaker 16: walk through to practice, and you know, they always had
Speaker 16: this mindset of we're going to go. Want to know, like,
Speaker 16: no matter what happens down the road, don't look past.
Speaker 16: You know, three game road trips, you know, three games
Speaker 16: at home. It's one game at a time. We win
Speaker 16: this game, and you know, we move forward, We learned
Speaker 16: from it, and we move on to the next week.
Speaker 1: What would your scouting report be to stop your teammate here,
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones?
Speaker 16: Oh man, you know, we'd have to stack the box,
Speaker 16: make sure you make them one dimensional, and don't let
Speaker 16: him get going because once he you know, once he
Speaker 16: finds that step, it's hard, it's hard to slow him down.
Speaker 1: We got to see you in Minnesota again next.
Speaker 17: Year, Yes, sir, that's why that's where I want to
Speaker 17: be and that's where I hope to be at.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you got are here with Bounty. Tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about that.
Speaker 15: Oh yes, sir, so blessed to be here with Bounty.
Speaker 17: You can't have football without wings, and you can't have
Speaker 17: wings without Bounty.
Speaker 15: And me and my wing man have just been hanging out.
Speaker 11: Uh nailed it, beautiful.
Speaker 4: He loves I don't even have to say it.
Speaker 8: He's already talked about it.
Speaker 1: He loves ball.
Speaker 4: I love ball.
Speaker 15: And it's just easy to sit back and talk ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And if you're if you're watching or listening to us,
Speaker 5: I do highly recommend checking out the YouTube version of
Speaker 5: the show as well, just to see Andrew van Ginko's
Speaker 5: flowing locks and then Aaron's great look with the hat
Speaker 5: in the in the shades and it's all happening. We
Speaker 5: are going to take a quick break here on NFL Daily.
Speaker 5: We will be back on the other side with a
Speaker 5: couple of interviews here. We're going to talk to to
Speaker 5: Matt Castle. We're going to talk to Joey Chestnut before
Speaker 5: wrapping up radio. Bro see you on the other side.
Speaker 5: All right, we are here with Matt Castle, our new
Speaker 5: teammate here. Yeah at iHeartRadio, NFL Media podcasts.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: Maybe not quite the same bond that that you had
Speaker 5: with like Mike Rabel. Uh, you guys got traded to
Speaker 5: trauma trauma bonding.
Speaker 4: We're both traded.
Speaker 18: I mean I was kind of fired up about it
Speaker 18: because I knew I was going to maybe get to
Speaker 18: play now, you know, because going back to the Patriots.
Speaker 18: But Mike, on the other hand, was like, really, you
Speaker 18: trade me with Castle to Kansas City. I can't just
Speaker 18: finish my career here, Like what's the deal. Yeah, we're
Speaker 18: a package deal, so thank you.
Speaker 5: So now you're a package deal with Bobby Bones and yeah,
Speaker 5: everyone should check out lots to say.
Speaker 1: Bobby's really talented.
Speaker 4: He's incredible.
Speaker 1: I'm a wonderful person.
Speaker 18: And it's really nice, great human, just could have a
Speaker 18: conversation with anybody he makes.
Speaker 4: He's so welcoming his personality.
Speaker 18: But he's funny, conversational, and just so easy to get
Speaker 18: along with. So I've been very blessed to be with
Speaker 18: him and linked up with him on this podcast.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they're down there in Nashville together, and I
Speaker 5: actually do want to get to a little ray Ball
Speaker 5: and old Patriots talk, because of course I do.
Speaker 1: But you guys were talking about before.
Speaker 5: The before it started, and we learned that you guys
Speaker 5: have something in common that you played multiple positions in college.
Speaker 5: People might forget quarterback, and Belichick he loved getting the
Speaker 5: credit for like, oh yeah, we found this guy who
Speaker 5: was like not even like a quarterback, and now now
Speaker 5: look at him.
Speaker 1: He's great.
Speaker 5: But we learned while talking Matt that Jordan played multiple
Speaker 5: positions on her intermural team.
Speaker 1: So tell us more about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, black football, quarterback and tight end talking about co
Speaker 3: ed team, and girls would get the touch every one
Speaker 3: out of every three downs, every four downs. So we
Speaker 3: would cheat the down because I could throw. So I
Speaker 3: played quarterback and we run all kinds of trick plays
Speaker 3: and then I'd play tight end and then we cheat
Speaker 3: the down more.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we were champions champions.
Speaker 4: Yeah what do you get? What are you get in
Speaker 4: that intermural league? If you win the.
Speaker 1: Championship t shirts? And I still have it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would keep that forever.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of sad because it so faded now because
Speaker 3: I wear it all the time because flex right. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: but it's the text of it is so faded that
Speaker 3: now I'm like, oh no, Now I'm going to have
Speaker 3: to be that person that like tells people like opens
Speaker 3: it because I can't just read it, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna have to be like So, by the way, in
Speaker 3: my glory days, let me tell.
Speaker 18: You about this play that I drew up and dropped
Speaker 18: a dime in the championship game.
Speaker 3: That was the move it was just like a three
Speaker 3: sneaky athletic hosts.
Speaker 1: Here three for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, big time pickleballickball.
Speaker 1: Massachusetts state champion tennis player.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about team.
Speaker 1: You know, I was starting.
Speaker 5: And then yes, Matt would get hit with the sneaky
Speaker 5: athletic back in the day because when when you were
Speaker 5: taken by the Patriots and you played multiple positions and
Speaker 5: and then you end up becoming the backup and and
Speaker 5: you end up getting your your shot as a starter.
Speaker 5: It was exciting for me as a fan because we
Speaker 5: had the quote unquote sneaky athletic quarterback.
Speaker 1: Because you got some rushing yardage back back in the day.
Speaker 5: At least for like the the nine ten ten era
Speaker 5: you were doing it.
Speaker 18: It was you know, it was more of necessity sometimes
Speaker 18: when you drop back, especially early on, I was like, okay.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna panic now and I'm just gonna take off
Speaker 4: and run.
Speaker 18: And it was something that you know, it was it
Speaker 18: was something that I had in my bag that I
Speaker 18: was like, okay. And so even the way that they
Speaker 18: designed some of the offense that year, you know, Josh
Speaker 18: McDaniels would put in some boots and stuff like that
Speaker 18: because I was a little bit more athletic than Tommy.
Speaker 18: Temmy was more of your traditional quarterback. But I you know,
Speaker 18: I let the Caboos get loose every now and then,
Speaker 18: you know they did. They had that documentary where they
Speaker 18: made me look like Michael Vick that all I did
Speaker 18: was run and I'm laughing. I'm going I did throw
Speaker 18: the ball a lot that season, but it was all good.
Speaker 5: Morning because in my head, and it's probably because of
Speaker 5: that doc two, like you were Michael.
Speaker 1: Vick back then. Oh yeah, it was like you know,
Speaker 1: you had two hundred and fifty rush.
Speaker 18: Yeah, it was solid, but nothing nothing to really, you know,
Speaker 18: tell your friends.
Speaker 5: Is it weird that Josh McDaniels is the offensive coordinator
Speaker 5: of the New England Patriots in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just for the listeners to back it up, he
Speaker 1: was your quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: Coach, quarterback coaching coordinator.
Speaker 5: League and then coordinator as well. He had that, he
Speaker 5: had the two titles. I think when you entered the league. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he was already the coordinator. So maybe talk me out
Speaker 5: of that.
Speaker 1: It's weird.
Speaker 5: There is part of me as a Patriots fan that's
Speaker 5: like I get it, and yet at some point shouldn't
Speaker 5: they be maybe turning the page instead of trying to
Speaker 5: re live old glory.
Speaker 18: Tell me your thoughts, Well, I don't think either are
Speaker 18: trying to releveled glory. What I do believe is Josh
Speaker 18: is at the core of him, he's a teacher and
Speaker 18: he's very good with young quarterbacks old quarterbacks, but he's
Speaker 18: exceptional in terms of game planning, and that's always been
Speaker 18: one of his strengths is seeing a defense because he
Speaker 18: understands the defensive side of the ball so well, designing
Speaker 18: a game plan to attack their weaknesses. And also forgot
Speaker 18: like Drake may coming into this situation somebody that obviously
Speaker 18: you want to see continuous growth, make that jump from
Speaker 18: year one to year two, and he's somebody that understands
Speaker 18: how to do that, and he's done that throughout his career.
Speaker 4: So I think it's a great hire.
Speaker 18: And he's also familiar with Mike Vrabel, understands what's going
Speaker 18: to be expected for him on the offensive side of
Speaker 18: the ball. But you know, part of being a good
Speaker 18: head coach is hiring good talent around you, especially on
Speaker 18: the coaching side, and Josh McDaniels is one of the
Speaker 18: best coordinators in the league and has been for a
Speaker 18: long period of time.
Speaker 3: You know what I do want to know from you, though,
Speaker 3: from your perspective, is you hear stories about him and
Speaker 3: how particular he is, and sometimes that can rub people
Speaker 3: the wrong way if you don't know how to approach
Speaker 3: him or communicate with him or vice versa. And I
Speaker 3: have heard a lot about how he's sort of been
Speaker 3: talking about just always continuing to learn, even in this
Speaker 3: phase of his career, and trying to be a better
Speaker 3: communicator or to reach a wider range of people. And
Speaker 3: I'm kind of wondering if you're a young player and
Speaker 3: like you aren't necessarily aware of how extensive his resume is,
Speaker 3: right Gerald, a young player, you maybe were too young
Speaker 3: to be in the Patriots heyday and agent Greg a
Speaker 3: little bit here, not you though, never you, But how
Speaker 3: would you explain to young players like how to reach
Speaker 3: Josh and vice versa, how for him to reach this
Speaker 3: younger generation.
Speaker 18: Well, it's an interesting question just from a perspective standpoint,
Speaker 18: because I had him for four years as my offensive coordinator.
Speaker 18: Now I never had him as a head coach, and
Speaker 18: I think some of the dialogue that you're discussing right
Speaker 18: now is more as a head coach because as a
Speaker 18: head coach, you're taking over a program and everybody needs
Speaker 18: to be in line with what your vision is.
Speaker 4: And sometimes that I think can be.
Speaker 18: A challenge for coaches to fall in line because you
Speaker 18: want to let them do their thing because that's why
Speaker 18: you hired him. But if you have that controlling mentality,
Speaker 18: you rub people the wrong way. But as a coordinator,
Speaker 18: I never had any issues as a quarterback walking in
Speaker 18: having great communication with him.
Speaker 4: He was a great communicator.
Speaker 18: He's a great teacher, but he also was somebody that
Speaker 18: was collaborating. He was a great collaborator in terms of, hey,
Speaker 18: what do you like on third down? You know when
Speaker 18: we get into two minute drill, you like three by
Speaker 18: one versus two by two? You want to do both
Speaker 18: like he was having those constants and for a young
Speaker 18: quarterback who's stepping in for the first time to take
Speaker 18: over for the greatest of all time, Tom Brady, he
Speaker 18: gave me that ability to tell you how how you
Speaker 18: felt about particular plays, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 18: you're going to be successful at the quarterback position when
Speaker 18: you're comfortable with place yea. Sometimes there's plays that you know,
Speaker 18: I've been around coaches that this is what we're doing,
Speaker 18: this is how we're going to do it.
Speaker 4: There's no back and forth.
Speaker 18: But he has was always outstanding from a standpoint of
Speaker 18: being a offensive coordinator and communicating, having that open conversation.
Speaker 3: And I like that fit with Mike because Mike is
Speaker 3: you always hear him described in two words through three words,
Speaker 3: I guess, demanding, never degrading.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I think I don't know. He's a friend
Speaker 4: of mine who's been very dere for you. Maybe it's
Speaker 4: off the football field.
Speaker 7: He has no respect for how you used to you know,
Speaker 7: used to be.
Speaker 3: So I think that this is an interesting pairing because
Speaker 3: it's a role reversal of sorts, right having joshin, but
Speaker 3: Mike really knows how to reach players. And he also
Speaker 3: he's spent I think behind the scenes, and not a
Speaker 3: lot of people talk about this publicly because he certainly
Speaker 3: keeps it a secret, learning the game, all the situational
Speaker 3: mastery that he has, and how obsessive he is over
Speaker 3: those things, winning in the margins and giving players the
Speaker 3: answer to the test. Have you seen him as a
Speaker 3: friend but also as a formateamate How have you seen
Speaker 3: him develop into like the person and the coach.
Speaker 1: That he is now.
Speaker 18: Well, it's funny because as a player and as a teammate,
Speaker 18: you always knew Rabe's incredible passion for the game, and
Speaker 18: that showed up on a daily basis. It's not just
Speaker 18: the way he worked out, it's how he led our
Speaker 18: team in the locker room, on the field, but even
Speaker 18: in scout team when the starters look. A lot of
Speaker 18: starters are not on scout team. They're taking their blow,
Speaker 18: getting ready for their reps when they go ones to
Speaker 18: go against the other side.
Speaker 4: But he would go out on scout team.
Speaker 18: To give us a look and play safety and be
Speaker 18: messing with us, trying to disguise.
Speaker 4: But we always felt like we called him Papa Rabes,
Speaker 4: but he would always.
Speaker 18: He would describe him that and see him and go,
Speaker 18: he's going to coach someday. And he immediately went into coaching.
Speaker 18: He was under Urban Meyer, went with Billy O'Brien, Romeo
Speaker 18: crdell was there, so he had the familiarity there. But
Speaker 18: then he took over the Tennessee Titans, and you saw
Speaker 18: he was ready to become a head coach. And when
Speaker 18: you say he's demanding there's no doubt you've got to
Speaker 18: do your job when you come from that system.
Speaker 4: But he's outside the.
Speaker 18: Mold of your typical Bill Belichick disciple, right because he
Speaker 18: played the game.
Speaker 4: He understands the locker room, the dynamics.
Speaker 18: When to push, when to pull back, and all those
Speaker 18: and all those different dynamics that you have to have
Speaker 18: to be a successful coach. And so it was probably
Speaker 18: a little bit of a learning experience at times, but
Speaker 18: he had a tremendous amount of success with the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 18: The way it ended, it ended, and that's just that's
Speaker 18: the league. But now that he comes into this role,
Speaker 18: with this organization and the love that already that fan
Speaker 18: base has for him, he'll do a tremendous job there.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he was not born a mask, but he
Speaker 1: but he I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3: But I also to just expand on that point a
Speaker 3: little bit more, like I love even when the Titans
Speaker 3: didn't have a great record, you always knew that if
Speaker 3: you were going to be coaching against Mike Rabel in
Speaker 3: like late game situations or there's a clock management thing
Speaker 3: that was going to maybe swing things a certain way,
Speaker 3: you're ft because he just know, like, that's what I've
Speaker 3: loved about watching him coach over the years. Less so
Speaker 3: even some of the stuff that's that's overt and you
Speaker 3: can watch how he is with players and how they
Speaker 3: speak about him, But just those little things like when
Speaker 3: he out fox Bill Belichick on the opposite sideline. That
Speaker 3: was one of the coolest things I've ever seen, and
Speaker 3: it was just the clock running down. Yeah, and it
Speaker 3: was like, I'm so fired up.
Speaker 18: It's the game within the game, and there's always those
Speaker 18: those moments, and we practiced them religiously, but not every
Speaker 18: organization as as detail oriented as other organizations. But the
Speaker 18: two minute drill at the end of the half, the
Speaker 18: four minute drill, running out the clock, when to use
Speaker 18: your timeouts, when to save those timeouts, all those different
Speaker 18: situational football is what we call it. It's so important
Speaker 18: within the game and that a lot of times will
Speaker 18: determine wins and.
Speaker 4: Losses because you take, like you said, alt Fox and.
Speaker 18: You you let the use the right timeout or however
Speaker 18: you manipulated the game in some way because you're within
Speaker 18: the rules. But it's that extra level, it's that mastery
Speaker 18: of what you're doing situationally that the football game itself
Speaker 18: sometimes can be determined by that simple decision.
Speaker 1: So let's take it back to eight.
Speaker 5: Well, you know they're coming off that No, when was that.
Speaker 1: I don't really want to tell you, guys how old
Speaker 1: I was. That's just ridiculous season.
Speaker 5: And Brady, unbeknownst to everyone in the stadium, you know,
Speaker 5: tears his acl always remember you know where I was,
Speaker 5: like in the NBC Sports dot Com like newsroom, like
Speaker 5: him walking down that those stairs and everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 5: it's walking. It's it's probably okay you you come into
Speaker 5: the game. Ends up being one of the most sneaky
Speaker 5: fun Patriots seasons as a fan, I think, just because
Speaker 5: it was so different and unexpected.
Speaker 1: But I remember, you know, you go out there, they
Speaker 1: win that game. You don't get credit for that win.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 4: I know, I'm still pretty pissed off about that. You know,
Speaker 4: in the Major League base I'll give you credit.
Speaker 18: Yeah, in major league baseball, right, if you're the starting
Speaker 18: pitcher and it's zero zero, when you come out of
Speaker 18: the game and the reliever comes in, they score a
Speaker 18: few runs you the reliever gets to win.
Speaker 4: That's not the case of football. If you start the.
Speaker 18: Game and take one snap, guess what you get the win.
Speaker 18: So it was zero zero when I came into that game,
Speaker 18: and I would like to think that I helped score
Speaker 18: some of those points.
Speaker 4: And so we ended up winning that game.
Speaker 18: And I was like, wait, I don't get credit for this.
Speaker 18: Everybody's like, you went ten and five that season. I
Speaker 18: was like, no, we didn't. We win eleven and five.
Speaker 4: And they're like, no, no, no, you didn't get the
Speaker 4: credit for that. Brady did.
Speaker 3: But you know what, never lost to history as long
Speaker 3: as you're on NFL daily, because we.
Speaker 4: Will go, Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 7: You absolutely will. That was an eleven and five season.
Speaker 1: Ye, damn it, damn it, absolutely.
Speaker 5: I love You're wearing the Dodgers representing the out here,
Speaker 5: so you're a Patriots Dodgers combo, which is what I'm
Speaker 5: trying to raise my son to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 18: You know, I grew up in LA and obviously the Dodgers.
Speaker 18: That's one of the sporting events that I used to
Speaker 18: go to consistently as a as a youth. And the CEE,
Speaker 18: how do you not cheer for a team from the
Speaker 18: home home crowd goes out wins the World Series? Otani,
Speaker 18: all these guys, the superstars that they have. It's it's
Speaker 18: been fun to watch now. It's it's great when you
Speaker 18: have the payroll that they have. You know a lot
Speaker 18: of people are probably pissed off about that, but hey, hey,
Speaker 18: I love it.
Speaker 7: It's a lot of the rich owners being pissed at
Speaker 7: rich owners.
Speaker 1: Go cook, guys, yeah.
Speaker 4: Go cook. Just keep bringing those players in and it's
Speaker 4: fun to watch.
Speaker 3: We were talking about, you know, the fact that you
Speaker 3: were robbed of a victory here, and I had this question.
Speaker 7: I asked Greg this sometimes we talk about this back
Speaker 7: and forth.
Speaker 3: But if you could change a rule or at least
Speaker 3: put a new statistic that people should get credit for
Speaker 3: in a box score for a game, Like in my
Speaker 3: mind is I feel like if a punter pins a
Speaker 3: team inside the five and then there's a safety, the
Speaker 3: punter should get one point.
Speaker 1: Oh I like that. That's my thesis.
Speaker 3: So, because you know you were so mercilessly robbed, I thought, hey,
Speaker 3: I wonder if you have an idea of what you
Speaker 3: would like to include in a stat line.
Speaker 4: In a stat line.
Speaker 18: You know, it's interesting because stat lines can be so
Speaker 18: deceiving at times, and you know, I sit there sometimes
Speaker 18: and of course, I'm a quarterback. So I sit there
Speaker 18: and I watch and you'll see a stat line, oh,
Speaker 18: he threw three picks. But you go watch the game
Speaker 18: and the ball ricocheted off somebody's hands, and I was like,
Speaker 18: I think that one should go to the wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 18: You should get so open instead of me getting just
Speaker 18: slacked because most people haven't watched really truly the entirety
Speaker 18: of the game that you see a stat line like, oh,
Speaker 18: he sucked this game. You know, ka Castle or whoever
Speaker 18: it might be. They threw three interceptions, well not really
Speaker 18: realizing that the one hit him right in his chest.
Speaker 18: If it's a catch, the ball hits you in the chest,
Speaker 18: the wide receiver gets an interception.
Speaker 4: On his stat line. I love that.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 4: I'm just I mean, that's my bias.
Speaker 1: But also, you're a quarterback, so you have to go
Speaker 1: up in the media.
Speaker 3: And I get it, everyone gets paid whatever, but like
Speaker 3: you have to go up in the media and be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I didn't have my best game today, you know, like.
Speaker 1: You have to take accountability for it. Anyway, we're all
Speaker 1: adults here. We can add some judgment to the status.
Speaker 18: Well, also, the sacks that go against the rushing yards
Speaker 18: of a quarterback. I was like, he wasn't running the football,
Speaker 18: like I know, somebody's got to get a stat but
Speaker 18: negative rushing yards because you're sitting in the pocket and
Speaker 18: somebody came through and crush you.
Speaker 3: I have a cool matt Stafford Matthew Stafford line from
Speaker 3: this year where he was actually timing his kneel down
Speaker 3: so he was running a little bit.
Speaker 1: We called him Skinny Stafford.
Speaker 3: He's running a little bit more, you know, he got
Speaker 3: he was playing tennis in the offseason, so he's moving
Speaker 3: around a little bit, and he would pick up a
Speaker 3: couple of gimme yards or converted down whatever, and then
Speaker 3: he would try to time the number of kneel downs.
Speaker 3: If they were, you know, winning the game, they would
Speaker 3: time the number of needs to have a neutral stat
Speaker 3: line because he didn't want to finish the season with
Speaker 3: one rushing yard, so he would try to time the
Speaker 3: negative nail downs and even back up.
Speaker 18: And some Stafford would do right, like who he's got
Speaker 18: a beautiful mind.
Speaker 5: He started doing that too when he was trying to
Speaker 5: not get that and I forget what old when he
Speaker 5: was trying to get over a thousand yards and then
Speaker 5: he would go actually before I let you go, and
Speaker 5: we are going to let you go here again.
Speaker 1: Lots to say everyone.
Speaker 5: Check out Matt Castle, Bobby Bones, two of the best
Speaker 5: getting it done. I loved watching you, Matt, by the way,
Speaker 5: when you were doing the NBC Sports Boston stuff with
Speaker 5: Tom Kurn. So you've been in the game for a minute,
Speaker 5: and that makes me wonder if your old teammate Tommy
Speaker 5: as you called him, I'll call him, I ask you
Speaker 5: for any advice about getting into the media game when
Speaker 5: he was joining.
Speaker 4: Not a shot, he called me and asked me anything,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 18: I was like, Tommy, come on, you know, I literally
Speaker 18: I'll talk to him and I just give him crap,
Speaker 18: like even when he's on the television. I'll just write
Speaker 18: some ridiculous text to him while he's on air, like
Speaker 18: you look like hell today, like something like that. But
Speaker 18: that's our relationship. He's like a big brother to me,
Speaker 18: and he's just a great dude. But never ask me
Speaker 18: for any advice. Not like he needs any advice, but
Speaker 18: he's gonna be to his own drum. He's very self motivated,
Speaker 18: as you know. So he's a perfectionist and everything he does.
Speaker 18: But I know that he was working his butt off
Speaker 18: trying to get prepared for the season, doing reps and
Speaker 18: everything else that goes into it. But he's just gotten
Speaker 18: better and better throughout the course of the year, and
Speaker 18: now he's on the biggest stage.
Speaker 4: It'll be fundable to hear this guy. I was like,
Speaker 4: just still moves it up. Yeah, nobody will be watching.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta have that friend of yours in your life,
Speaker 5: like Matt Castle.
Speaker 1: Just you question yourself in huge moments.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's important.
Speaker 5: Do I look like crap? Am I doing a good job?
Speaker 5: We're almost there, We're almost two Sunday. Yes, Tom Brady
Speaker 5: will be calling that game. We'll be covering it here
Speaker 5: on NFL Daily. I'm sure you guys will be covering
Speaker 5: it in the coming weeks on lots to say, great
Speaker 5: having you, Mackcastle.
Speaker 4: Thank you guys. It was a pleasure, all right.
Speaker 5: So we say goodbye to Matt Castle, who is once
Speaker 5: teammates with Tom Brady, them Tommy Tommy, and now we
Speaker 5: welcome in the go of another competitive enterprise, and that's
Speaker 5: eating It's Joey chest not welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me, guys.
Speaker 1: Hey Welcome to NFL Daily.
Speaker 5: This is a dream I never knew I had, which
Speaker 5: was to learn all about how your body prepares itself
Speaker 5: for competitive eating and the life that you've chosen for yourself.
Speaker 19: You'll learn to a degree. I'm not gonna give you
Speaker 19: any pictures, but it's it's not all pretty, but it's
Speaker 19: it's beautiful.
Speaker 5: I feel like you, you know, Nick, Nick Shook of
Speaker 5: course is joining us now.
Speaker 1: And you guys have like a lot in common that
Speaker 1: you can well.
Speaker 11: We're both of similar statues, I think, except one's really
Speaker 11: really amazing at eating. He's elite and I just like
Speaker 11: to eat.
Speaker 1: No, he also likes to work out. Apparently this guy's ripe.
Speaker 1: There's something wrong with him.
Speaker 7: We really like sitting him and Greg next to each other.
Speaker 1: I team him.
Speaker 5: It's not like having a bouncer, but it's just so
Speaker 5: that the guests respect me more.
Speaker 1: Nick next to me.
Speaker 5: How do you, Joey prepare for your your big events?
Speaker 5: And like, how does it vary depending on what the
Speaker 5: event calls for?
Speaker 19: It's uh, runners have to run, fighters have to fight,
Speaker 19: and you know, I have to eat. I do practice contests,
Speaker 19: simulate the contest before we practice. There's a pretty much
Speaker 19: a cleanse, no solid food, lots of water, a couple
Speaker 19: of oils. I make sure it's a clean highway. I'm
Speaker 19: empty and loose, so when I when I put the
Speaker 19: food in, I'm I'm gonna go from empty to fole
Speaker 19: and it's gonna be Uh, it's gonna be ridiculous.
Speaker 3: That is exactly what I was hoping you would bring
Speaker 3: up first, because I have so many questions about how
Speaker 3: you recover and how you get back and regulate after
Speaker 3: like everything, And I'm trying to ask this very politely, like.
Speaker 1: Holy hell man, usually nature works out.
Speaker 3: It's uh, is it like a gravity situation? It's just
Speaker 3: gravity does It's there.
Speaker 19: I'm taking walks, but I go to sleep drink. Either
Speaker 19: I'm getting up to drink water or I'm waking up
Speaker 19: with a look in my eye.
Speaker 1: I'm running thing.
Speaker 19: I don't like to run very fast very often, but
Speaker 19: that's when I'm not even I don't have a choice.
Speaker 11: We were kind of chatting about this earlier. What was
Speaker 11: like the moment when you realized, oh, I can actually
Speaker 11: do this, like for real, like.
Speaker 15: On an elite level.
Speaker 1: It's been a weird.
Speaker 19: Like you talked to football players, they knew when they
Speaker 19: were five years old they were gonna be professional. I
Speaker 19: knew when I was five years old that I could
Speaker 19: eat because I was like something I was a little
Speaker 19: bit ashamed of. My mom would yell at me, and
Speaker 19: my brother's be like, no, you didn't leave any food
Speaker 19: for us. So I was like, So it was like
Speaker 19: something that I was like, oh, all right, I was
Speaker 19: like self conscious of. And then I started doing eating
Speaker 19: in college a little bit faster, and my friends were like,
Speaker 19: oh my god, we can sign you up to a contest.
Speaker 1: And it, uh your friends made money off you.
Speaker 4: They were like, no, you can do it.
Speaker 19: Like I was twenty one and I finally did a
Speaker 19: contest in Reno because they offered me a free hotel room.
Speaker 19: It was a casino, and uh, I was like, oh
Speaker 19: my god, I can get paid to eat.
Speaker 3: So I have to know too, like you are. Everyone
Speaker 3: knows who you are, Like we all have watched you
Speaker 3: on TV. We've all marveled at like the feats of eating.
Speaker 3: And I was gonna try to do a better pun
Speaker 3: than that, but didn't work out. The when you go
Speaker 3: to gatherings, if it's like you go to a barbecue,
Speaker 3: you're with family, maybe people you don't know as much.
Speaker 7: Do people make really stupid jokes like I just did.
Speaker 19: I mean, they're not bad, they're just I've heard all like, oh,
Speaker 19: get this guy away from the grill, make sure you
Speaker 19: get the hot dogs before he gets there, like, and
Speaker 19: then then find out that they cook like weird, crappy
Speaker 19: hot dogs, like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go
Speaker 19: to town on your hot dogs. Like I'm actually like,
Speaker 19: I'm kind of like a hot dog snob. They have
Speaker 19: to be good hot dogs. If they were really good
Speaker 19: to a'll be hot dogs and they're grilled and a
Speaker 19: little bit snapped to them, you might have to watch out,
Speaker 19: especially if I'm drinking. Things have a tendency to just disappear.
Speaker 11: Do you ever find yourself like where you shift into
Speaker 11: that mode? Even at a gathering, you're like something, you're
Speaker 11: just splitting the hot dogs and you're doing two at
Speaker 11: a time, and you're you're dipping the bread, and.
Speaker 5: People must challenge you, like even when it's not for money,
Speaker 5: just to see if they can step up to the king.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I don't usually get it. And no, I don't
Speaker 19: think I've ever dipped a hot dog. And uh, water
Speaker 19: or the bund and water for fun. But but there
Speaker 19: are times where I'm where I'm finding a rhythm where
Speaker 19: it's I got I got a drink in one hand
Speaker 19: and hot dog, yeah, and it's things just disappear and
Speaker 19: uh yeah, Like he's like, people challenge me once in
Speaker 19: a while in a baseball game like the State, let's
Speaker 19: see you can eat this hot dog or drink a beer,
Speaker 19: and you know, I'm fine. It's it's always the happiest people.
Speaker 1: If you were.
Speaker 5: Lost to a casual uh hot dogs.
Speaker 1: No, no, yeah.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, like, I feel like if I mean,
Speaker 3: we're friends now, but if we were friends before this,
Speaker 3: I would have definitely paraded you around the bar scene
Speaker 3: and been like, look look at this guy.
Speaker 7: You want to challenge him? Do it and then like
Speaker 7: make a little money on the side.
Speaker 1: You know you can try. Yeah, it's uh people.
Speaker 19: People find out pretty quick after after one hot dog
Speaker 19: and they're like, oh, I don't want to go get.
Speaker 11: Some and it makes you feel any better. I've been
Speaker 11: challenged to many arm wrestles before, and I always just
Speaker 11: do the the old Jerry Seinfeld, I choose not to wrestle.
Speaker 11: You know, we're just not going there. There's a really
Speaker 11: you don't want to hurt anybody.
Speaker 5: So of course you always hear football players talk about, like,
Speaker 5: you know, when they're they're away from the game, what
Speaker 5: they they missed most of the locker room camaraderie. Uh
Speaker 5: even even with their rivals, the understanding. So it is
Speaker 5: there some of that with you? And like Kobe Yashi, is.
Speaker 4: It hates me?
Speaker 19: I mean, I mean I'm kind of I'm kind of
Speaker 19: a jerk to the other competitors. Okay, I mean it's
Speaker 19: not it's competitive eating, not competitive nicing. Okay, So like
Speaker 19: before before the contest, I'm like, I'm gonna tell him,
Speaker 19: Like I already called my mom.
Speaker 4: And told her I won.
Speaker 11: Talker too.
Speaker 19: They were like what, like, yeah, she's she said that
Speaker 19: everybody knew I was gonna win.
Speaker 11: Is that where the nickname comes from?
Speaker 4: Jaws? Yeah?
Speaker 19: No, no, Sonya Thomas, the black Widow gave me that.
Speaker 19: She said, I can over my mouth really wide.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you did it when we were getting
Speaker 3: ready actually, and I got a little scared for a second.
Speaker 3: We were I was like whoa, whoa right just right there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like I have a question though, because you've said a
Speaker 3: couple of cool things. Uh, it's not competitive. It's competitive
Speaker 3: eating not competitive.
Speaker 1: Nice thing.
Speaker 3: You should make that a T shirt before someone else
Speaker 3: jumps on that. What are the what are some like
Speaker 3: really either pun heavy or dumb catchphrases that you thought
Speaker 3: about maybe trying.
Speaker 19: Out a little bit like one of the lines there's
Speaker 19: like if you it doesn't take much imagination, like I
Speaker 19: don't stop eating until the job's done. You could can
Speaker 19: imagine like, yeah, what else do I say? Just put
Speaker 19: it in your mouth and swallow it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean that.
Speaker 11: That would do numbers that I.
Speaker 19: Love to give other eaters direction, like you're just not
Speaker 19: swallowing fast enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, that's very helpful instructions.
Speaker 5: Is there like a non hot dog food that you
Speaker 5: do that like you like to competitively eat?
Speaker 1: And maybe one that that has been a problem for you?
Speaker 19: Oh my god, dude, chicken wings. I love chicken wings
Speaker 19: and I'm on a losing streak with chicken wings. Buffalo
Speaker 19: one of the best cities in the country.
Speaker 4: They have a huge Buffalo Wing festival.
Speaker 19: And I I'm on a losing streak there, and there's
Speaker 19: a huge wing contest in Miami. I think I've lost
Speaker 19: it three years in a row. So I'm going back
Speaker 19: there in March in Miami. Hopefully I can go in
Speaker 19: there not break my diet the night before.
Speaker 4: I can. I can.
Speaker 19: Yeah, It's that's the problem with Miami and Buffalo. Those
Speaker 19: those cities are fun places to go out. Yeah, and
Speaker 19: I just have too much fun. But this year, I
Speaker 19: really want to make sure I get to win.
Speaker 11: So it's not like the Yeah, exactly, drums are flats?
Speaker 11: Is it like the Is it the construction of a
Speaker 11: chicken wing that makes it difficult or no?
Speaker 19: No, no, it's uhum, the contest are drums and flats.
Speaker 19: I think I us. I used to have a really
Speaker 19: good I was like on a winning streak with chicken
Speaker 19: wings for a while, but last three years, I have
Speaker 19: a right. I just need to find my happy place.
Speaker 19: I'm actually gonna do some practice this year.
Speaker 1: It's a blind spot.
Speaker 5: It's also a little like the NBA teams that come
Speaker 5: into Los Angeles and don't really show up for the
Speaker 5: mattin A the next day, you know, because they were
Speaker 5: out too late.
Speaker 1: That Yeah, you know, it's all my fault, you know,
Speaker 1: no excuses.
Speaker 19: I'm going to go out there and I'm going to
Speaker 19: make sure that, uh yeah, I'm actually going to go
Speaker 19: out there a little bit earlier.
Speaker 4: Make sure I practiced with the.
Speaker 19: Right wings, like different regions have different wings, like the
Speaker 19: chickens are. Like one year I had a hard time.
Speaker 19: I was pulling the wings so hard the bone would
Speaker 19: snap and I.
Speaker 11: Had to fish the midway on time.
Speaker 7: So it's just an equipment malfunction right there. So I
Speaker 7: have to ask. So the most you can lie to.
Speaker 1: Me on this too. By the way, you have permission.
Speaker 7: The most wings I've ever eaten in one setting is
Speaker 7: twenty six.
Speaker 1: Is that good or bad? Twenty six? It's not too bad.
Speaker 1: They're all flats.
Speaker 19: The flats are the better meat, I think. Yeah, I
Speaker 19: think the drums there's a lot more cartilage in there,
Speaker 19: and the flats that are easy to read clean.
Speaker 1: Twenty six.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it took me some time, but yeah, that's not
Speaker 7: that's not bad.
Speaker 1: What how much do you have when you're doing my best?
Speaker 19: One time I did a twelve hour live stream with
Speaker 19: Hooters and I did four hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's.
Speaker 5: Yes, he is the best in the game.
Speaker 1: Will go out on that.
Speaker 5: Appreciate you joining the show. The best to ever do
Speaker 5: it thanks to Well, you never know what's going to
Speaker 5: happen at Radio Row. You might end up finishing out
Speaker 5: your week talking.
Speaker 1: To Joey chest What a time to be alive.
Speaker 11: I mean, hearing about hot dogs and his preferences wings.
Speaker 11: The strategy with Wings, well, you were very.
Speaker 1: I was very interested. I like it.
Speaker 5: It's a good taste of what it's like around here
Speaker 5: because we haven't set the scene too much, but this
Speaker 5: is I feel like the biggest place in the most
Speaker 5: media that we've had at Radio Row since the pandemic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: A lot smaller after the pandemic, and it's slowly built
Speaker 5: back up, and they're they're going crazy here and there's
Speaker 5: a lot going around around us.
Speaker 1: There are neighbors.
Speaker 3: If we're facing the camera and our super producer, who's
Speaker 3: been so clutch all week this week. If we're facing
Speaker 3: the cameras, to our left is the Insider set with
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Speaker 1: And Judy Steve Wish.
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Speaker 3: Cam Jordan, you know, and then behind us there's an
Speaker 3: entire ecosystem of personalities from Sports and Entertainment.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I mean, this has been cool as hell, Greg.
Speaker 5: It's also been like overwhelming. Like Cam Newton was doing
Speaker 5: the War Eagle chant, Yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker 11: It sounded like thirty people. That was awesome, stilled the
Speaker 11: whole room.
Speaker 3: That really brought me back because it just he's just
Speaker 3: he is on all the time and it's awesome.
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