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Speaker 1: with the Bears and the trade possibilities. Now, I don't

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Speaker 1: About stick with the Division the Detroit Lions playing the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. This game is massive, It really is,

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00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: and I the more and more I think about it,

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00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: the more and more I feel bad for Lions fans.

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00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: You've waited so long. If you're my age, thirty five

444
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: of your forty years have just been so bad. Everyone

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00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: makes fun of you. Your team always loses your one

446
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: moment on Thanksgiving usually doesn't go your way, and someone

447
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: else is eating turducking on the fifty yard line, usually

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Speaker 1: in Detroit. Finally, your your team looks like we're the

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Speaker 1: best team in the NFL and we're gonna win the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. And you say that out loud a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and everyone kind of agreed. You're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you guys should win the super Bowl. I

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00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: think this is your year, this is your time. And

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00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: now as you go into this Green Bay Packer game,

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Speaker 1: your entire defensive line is injured. Someone I saw a

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Speaker 1: post their injury port of just in terms of guys

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Speaker 1: on injured reserve, guys that are at it's insane. The

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Speaker 1: guys they've lost on defense in their front seven that

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00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: are probably not gonna play tomorrow is pretty outrageous. I mean, hell,

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Speaker 1: when we watch your games, you could argue the best

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Speaker 1: player on your team him or Pine Sewel is up

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00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: in a box with his sister and girlfriend with his

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Speaker 1: leg up because his leg got snapped. And I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just if Detroit was fully healthy, I would bet

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Speaker 1: on them to win every single week. But it does

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Speaker 1: feel like They've got to the point now of like

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00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: how much can you overcome? They had to sign Jamal

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Speaker 1: Adams this week. That tells you everything you need to know.

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Speaker 1: And I would imagine, I mean, hell, they might play

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams at like as a pass rusher. You know

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Speaker 1: the couple things Jamal Adams does well. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he still does, but like throughout his career, tackle

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Speaker 1: in space and blitz, slash, rush the passer, anything going backwards,

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00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: no go, no dice, going forwards around the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: Impactful player. You could argue sign him any second, third

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Speaker 1: and long, bring him in off the edge, put him

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Speaker 1: at like this hybrid linebacker and let him rush. But

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Speaker 1: that is not something a team eleven to one wants

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00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: to even have to have the discussion, let alone do

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Speaker 1: And they had to do it. They don't have a choice.

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Speaker 1: They don't have any bodies. And now you get Green

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Speaker 1: Bay who you know, it's hard to tell. They had

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00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: a couple guys on injury report, like Josh Jacobs on Tuesday,

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00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: but sometimes this short week late in the season, I

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Speaker 1: expect all their guys to play. I think Dobbs, did

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Speaker 1: you get a concussion? He could be a little up

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00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: in the air, but clearly would just Tucker and Read

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Speaker 1: and Watson like they can easily function on offense. If

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Speaker 1: he's not able to go. This is a tough spot

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Speaker 1: for Detroit and if Dan Campbell can maintain keep and

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Speaker 1: win this division because Minnesota's on his ass as well,

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Speaker 1: and be the number one overall seed with this many injuries.

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Speaker 1: And I understand they were really good last year. They

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Speaker 1: were the two seed, they were in the NFC Championship game,

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Speaker 1: so it's not a shock that they're good again. I

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00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: do believe he should get Coach of the Year. He

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Speaker 1: would one percent get my vote if he not only

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Speaker 1: wins tomorrow, but keeps on winning with the roster he's

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Speaker 1: rolling out now. Their offense is really good. But when

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Speaker 1: you start playing Jamal Adams in December when you're eleven wins,

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00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: that that shows you how depleted you are. And this

502
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Speaker 1: is a big spot for the floor. Last week, he

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Speaker 1: I guess two weeks ago against the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: he just he pillaged them. I mean he embarrassed them,

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Speaker 1: and we saw them on Thursday. They looked excellent again

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Speaker 1: against Miami. Their offense is just loaded and they're peaking

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Speaker 1: at the right time. Their defense looks a lot better.

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Speaker 1: I like Green Bay, man, I really do. And it's

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Speaker 1: not because I'm some Lions hater. I've believed in Dan

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Speaker 1: Campbell for years. But you get to the line of

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Speaker 1: diminishing returns and it feels like they're there on defense

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Speaker 1: against an offense like this in Green Bay. So I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to watch this. And if you look at the

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Speaker 1: last five games, obviously Detroit and Green Bay played each

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Speaker 1: other this week, then the Lions played the Bills at Chicago.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing about the Bears. They lose a

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Speaker 1: lot of these games. They have been in them all,

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Speaker 1: including the game they just played against Detroit, which they

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Speaker 1: came storming back because they were rolling out me on defense.

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Speaker 1: Then they got to go to San Francisco, and then

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Speaker 1: they finished with Minnesota. And if you look at the Packers,

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Speaker 1: they play at Seattle next week. Now they get the

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Speaker 1: extra couple days of you know, of rest, playing on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and Seattle's on the road this week in Arizona. Then

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Speaker 1: they play the Saints, then they go to Minnesota, and

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Speaker 1: then they get the Bears at Lambeau and Minnesota this week.

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Speaker 1: Kind of a game against Atlanta and Cousins who can't

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Speaker 1: play Chicago at Seattle, Green Bay Detroit. So basically all

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Speaker 1: these teams essentially play the same schedule, except you could

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Speaker 1: the Bills, New Orleans and Atlanta you could take out.

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Speaker 1: So I'm fascinated to watch this. And one kicker here

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Speaker 1: is you know, the Packers and Minnesota play at Seattle

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Speaker 1: down the stretch. That is a game that Detroit won

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Speaker 1: earlier this season, so that's that could be a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a swing game. And then Detroit plays the Niners,

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Speaker 1: who Green Bay and Minnesota both beat this. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fascinating to watch this playout. Like I said, Dan Campbell,

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Speaker 1: if when the season ends they have the number one seed,

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Speaker 1: I think when you factor in the injuries that he's

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Speaker 1: had now going on several weeks, so he will have

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Speaker 1: finished the season six to seven weeks with a ton

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Speaker 1: of guys not playing, especially defensive lineman. He might not

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Speaker 1: have his starting defensive line, not like defensive line. Men

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Speaker 1: like his starting defensive line all might miss the game,

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Speaker 1: multiple starting linebackers out. I had to sign Jamal Adams

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Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving to start a game against the Packers, which

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Speaker 1: essentially in a roundabout way is kind of for the division.

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Speaker 1: We're going to play a large role in the pie

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Speaker 1: chart down the stretch to win the division and get

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Speaker 1: the number one seat. He's my number. He'd be my

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Speaker 1: coach of the year. Some NFL news notes it's always

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Speaker 1: funny when a trade happens, and I'm guilty of this too.

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Speaker 1: I'm not pointing fingers here because you point a fingers,

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Speaker 1: you got three point back at you and one point upstairs.

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00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: But when something happens a personnel transaction, we all got opinions.

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00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they fleece that team. Oh my god,

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00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: what kind of idiotic trade was? That? Happens all the time,

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00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: fun part about sports. I didn't necessarily have an opinion

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Speaker 1: when this move was made because I haven't really watched

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00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: this player. My only thought on this guy is that,

561
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: like Mike Tomlin didn't like him. So when Deontay Johnson

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Speaker 1: got traded from the Panthers to the Ravens and it

563
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: was a pick swap, and everyone was like, they basically

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Speaker 1: traded fifteen to eighteen spots for Deontay Johnson, the Ravens

565
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Speaker 1: absolutely fleece the Panthers. My takeaway was, one does anyone

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Speaker 1: like this guy, like the Steelers toward the end couldn't

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Speaker 1: get rid of him fast enough. The Panthers a year

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Speaker 1: in or like take them will give him to you,

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Speaker 1: and then several weeks into his raven career he has

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Speaker 1: been suspended. So I think everyone who came out to

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Speaker 1: take of the Ravens flees the Panthers, and when he

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Speaker 1: signs with someone else for a larger contract, they will

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Speaker 1: get a compensatory pick that is better than even what

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Speaker 1: they just traded. I don't know, because it sure seems

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Speaker 1: like this guy is a major red flag because during

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Speaker 1: the Eagles game, Harbaugh tried to put him in the

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Speaker 1: game and he refused, and now three or four days

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Speaker 1: later he is not going to play this week. So

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes we gotta be careful. It's easy if

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Speaker 1: you're like, you know, the Eagles just traded for TJ. Watt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are some no brainers, like holy shit,

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Speaker 1: right the reaction to Deontay Johnson, like the Ravens just landed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Jerry Rice in his prime felt a

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Speaker 1: little crazy, and I think Mike Tomlin, who took a

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Speaker 1: shot a couple of weeks ago when they asked if

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Speaker 1: you're getting ready for him, and he basically wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: acknowledge the player. I think tells you everything you need

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00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: to know. I watched his interview Andrew Luck did with

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Speaker 1: Dan Patrick. Andrew Luck has been named the general manager

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Speaker 1: of football at Stanford and for any it's on YouTube.

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00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: It was really good. It was like the day after

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Speaker 1: he was named. And it really kind of stuck out

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Speaker 1: to me, is you know the way Andrew's career ended

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Speaker 1: with him just retiring because his body was so beat

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Speaker 1: up and he was tired of rehabbing and his team,

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Speaker 1: you know, he was getting killed and he didn't believe

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Speaker 1: in the leadership there and he every time Dan brought

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Speaker 1: that up, he kept pushing back against that. But here's

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Speaker 1: the one thing I respect about any guy. And you

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Speaker 1: see that. You saw this with John Elway who returned

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Speaker 1: to the to the Broncos. Andrew Luck obviously he's very smart.

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say would have minimum minimum

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Speaker 1: in the bank sixty seventy million dollars. And when I

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Speaker 1: say in the bank, not just sitting there in cash,

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Speaker 1: in things that are growing so that that number could

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Speaker 1: be one hundred million dollars. He does not need the money.

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Speaker 1: John Elway, when he returned to be the Broncos GM

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Speaker 1: had made so much money on car dealerships and steakhouses

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Speaker 1: he was worth a ton. You don't get that high

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Speaker 1: from football or just anytime that you're an athlete or

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Speaker 1: a coach in business, because after a while, like money

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Speaker 1: coming into your account, whether it's one hundred grand, whether

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Speaker 1: it's ten million, whatever, you kind of just become numb

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Speaker 1: to it. Your life doesn't change. And it's like I

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Speaker 1: say it all the time. I can bet a hundredth

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Speaker 1: of a direct deposit I'll get from this business we're

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Speaker 1: a part of, and I will get more juices flowing

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Speaker 1: from the bet having a thousand dollars bet than I

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Speaker 1: would on anything we can make doing business on this show,

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Speaker 1: which I love doing, But you don't get the same

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Speaker 1: juices flowing. Sometimes I miss. I don't miss working in

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Speaker 1: football because I think I was meant to do what

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Speaker 1: I'm doing now and I have more ownership over everything

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Speaker 1: literally and figuratively, and I just I enjoy everything about it.

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Speaker 1: But the elements of that I miss, and that just

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Speaker 1: get your heart racing that few things in life can

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Speaker 1: bring to the table and when I watched Andrew Luck

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Speaker 1: talk about taking that job, he even he said, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I started coaching high school football the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. He moved back around Stanford. His wife

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Speaker 1: is a gymnast from Stanford, and he's like, I hadn't

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Speaker 1: been nervous in a long time as I was before

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Speaker 1: some of these games. And it's like I appreciate the

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Speaker 1: guys that realize after a while, like there's no amount

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Speaker 1: of money that can give me the high of what

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Speaker 1: I missed doing. Now, you could argue Andrew didn't need

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Speaker 1: to walk away from the sport. He could have kept playing.

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Speaker 1: That's a separate conversation from this, But I do think

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Speaker 1: Stanford made the right decision. They are in a difficult spot.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to get guys into school for the teams

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Speaker 1: that they play. They cannot get certain players into the

642
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: school because they will never ever come down off the

643
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: academic requirements. And in college football, believe that like when

644
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: Stanford's up, Notre Dame probably going to be down and

645
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: Northwestern's going to be down. If Northwestern and Notre Dame

646
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: are up, that's going to mean Stanford's down because there

647
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: are only so many guys who can play football and

648
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: meet the academic requirements. But here's the one thing Andrew

649
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: Luck can do is he can get people on the

650
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: horn that have money. They will call him back. If

651
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 1: I'm worth one hundred million dollars and I'm a booster

652
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: at Stanford and the athletic director calls me, I'll call

653
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: him back when I feel like it. If I look

654
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: down at my phone and Andrew Luck's calling me like

655
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: he's getting a call back in twenty four hours. And

656
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: that's an element that I think could really really help

657
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: the program. Tom Brady discussed sliding in the NFL and

658
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: we talked about this. The Nick Cassario three and a

659
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: half minute rant about Al Shires is fantastic. Loved it,

660
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: and I do think he got at the heart of

661
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: something that a lot of people in football feel the

662
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: balance is out of whack. And Dan Campbell or you know,

663
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 1: Saint Brown, has a podcast I think with his brother

664
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: and just went viral that Dan Campbell brought up in

665
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: the team meeting the week they were playing the Bears

666
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: that when Caleb Williams goes out of bounds, he often

667
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: cuts it back, and when he cuts it back, we're

668
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: gonna fucking blast him, and I saw a bunch of

669
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: people responding again social media take it with a complete

670
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: grain assault. Was like, that's so dirty, dirty. That is

671
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: the most football thing I've ever heard. If he's faking

672
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: going out of bounds and he cuts it back for

673
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: more yards, we are going to hit him and hit

674
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: him as hard as we can, just like we would

675
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: do do any player in football. Just because he's the quarterback.

676
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: Should we just heyk turn back left, take another five yards, man,

677
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: then that I'll tackle you. What are we talking about?

678
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence slid late. That's not debatable now. We can

679
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: debate if al Shier took his forearm tried to hit

680
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: him in the neck or the head. Maybe I don't

681
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: know what his intent was. He didn't. He hit him

682
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: in the shoulder and then the ground caused the concussion.

683
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: But that's a discussion for a separate thing. These quarterbacks

684
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: have crossed the line of being too protected now and

685
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: they're taking advantage of it. We see it with Patrick

686
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: Mahomes who does fake slides and fake out of bounds

687
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: and keeps going. We saw it with Caleb Williams on Thursday,

688
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: kept trying to do it, cut back in for more yards.

689
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: We saw it with Trevor Lawrence, who could have easily

690
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: slid four or five yards before and went late and

691
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: now got chaot. I don't know. I don't think Brady's

692
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: terribly off base because right now, only one person faces repercussions.

693
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: That's the defender. There is zero, zero risk when it

694
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: comes to playing quarterback. The only risk is your body.

695
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: But who even cares. All your money is guaranteed, like

696
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: my risk as a player on defense is also my body,

697
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: and my contract isn't guarante. So this guy literally has

698
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: no risk, no financial risk, no risk of ever getting

699
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: in trouble with the league, no risk of getting suspended

700
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: without pay. Hell, he could even play like shit and

701
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: he gets to keep playing in our position. If I

702
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: play bad as a linebacker, I get benched. So it's

703
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: jumped the shark. And I do think they need to

704
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: rein it in a little bit. Do I expect them to.

705
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: I do not, because they're in the business right now

706
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: of making as much money as humanly possible, and they

707
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: view by a mile the most important person is the quarterback,

708
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: which I agree. If we're talking Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes,

709
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and guys like that half the league. I

710
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: don't think they matter at all. I really don't. So

711
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how we balance. Like they don't get

712
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: to just do whatever they want and the other guy

713
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: has to worry about getting flagged constantly. We're out of

714
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: balance here. I don't have all the solutions, partly because

715
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to change. But I know

716
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: it's not fair, and I don't even know who would

717
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: debate that at this point in time. And last, but

718
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: not least, if I would have told you a couple

719
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: of years ago, when the USC Trojans gave Lincoln Riley

720
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: over one hundred million dollars, they bought his house. I

721
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: remember my buddy Drew Hill, who works for Oklahoma right now.

722
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: I remember when the rumors are flying, I'm like, you

723
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: think he's gonna leave the US. He's like, now, he

724
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: just built a mansion. Man, who's there are not that

725
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: many people in Norman, Oklahoma that can afford the mansion.

726
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: USC told them what's your what's your houseworth? It's like

727
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: three hundred three point five million, we'll pay five hundred

728
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: over asking. They made him an offer so good that

729
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: no human could have turned it down, and most successful

730
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: people tell you you got to be very careful about

731
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: making decisions strictly for money. I do think there comes

732
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: a point where if the number gets so big, you

733
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: almost owe it to UH, to your wife, to your parents,

734
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: to whoever, your your immediate family, your friends, anyone that's

735
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: for you to say yes. I don't want to move

736
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: out of my house. If you knocked on my door

737
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: right now and offered me double what it's worth, I

738
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: would probably say no. But if you knocked on my

739
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: door and offered me ten million cash right now, I

740
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: would have to I'd be obligated to say yes. And

741
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: I think Lincoln Riley did not want to leave Oklahoma

742
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: for USC, but they made him a number so big

743
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: he could not say no. And now he's at a

744
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: place that he doesn't really want to be and he

745
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: doesn't fit and UCF, you see F. It was well

746
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: reported on The Athletic by Bruce Feldman that they reached

747
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: out to USC and said, hey, would you be interested

748
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: in doing some sort of Obviously, you know, if you're Lincoln,

749
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: you're not going to go to UCF. They owe you

750
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: ninety eighty million dollars. You're just gonna ride this out

751
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: till they fire you or whatever. But that's where we're at.

752
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: That's where we're at. Can you imagine reading like you

753
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,959
Speaker 1: wouldn't even report it? You know, UCF it asked about

754
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: Dan Lanning Fresno State, They called Georgia and just hey,

755
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: Kirby man, you need to change the scenery. We got you, homie.

756
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: You'd be like, what that'd be so dumb? You'd When

757
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: I read that headline, I'm like, of course they did that.

758
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: Ad wouldn't have been doing his job if he didn't.

759
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: And honestly, Lincoln Riley would make a lot more sense

760
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: at UCF than he does at USC But financially, once

761
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: you sell your soul for the money they got you

762
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: by the balls and you're kind of stuck. Now it

763
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: could be worse. You're stuck living on a fifteen million

764
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: dollar pad on the water that is essentially us he

765
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: pays for with your wife. That I just I've always

766
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: believed this and I always will believe this. There are outliers,

767
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: but for the most part, regionality in college football matters

768
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: where are you from? Cause that creates the ethos of

769
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: who you are as a human being. I have elements

770
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: of my soul, the way I operate, that were developed

771
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: on the West Coast. Now my personality is a little unique.

772
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: I can go to the northeastern thrive, i can go

773
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: to the South and thrive, but I'm most at home

774
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: in California, Vegas and in Arizona. The Western seaboard is

775
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: where I thrive, where I feel the most comfortable. I've

776
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: lived other places. You look at Kirby smart, southern guy,

777
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: thrives in the SEC. You look at the coaches that

778
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: have had success on the West Coast in college, Pete Carroll.

779
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: Where's Pete Carroll from California? He went to school at Pacific,

780
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: Jeff Tedford, La Fresno State, Chris Peterson, UC Davis, Boise State, Washington.

781
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: It's just where was Lincoln, Texas, Oklahoma. Kind of that

782
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: region made a lot of sense. Even Marcus Freeman now

783
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: in the Midwest, Ohio State, Notre Dame, like he understands

784
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: the regionality of the people. They're ethos, what they stand for,

785
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: how they operate. Lincoln is a small town Texas guy

786
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: trying to operate in this big city, bright lights. It's

787
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: a tough thing to overcome, and it never let me

788
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: rephrase that it made sense to me from USC standpoint.

789
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: Of course you're going to try to hire Lincoln Riley

790
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: three years ago, but from Lincoln Riley standpoint, where you

791
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 1: had the pick of the litter, I mean you're turned

792
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: down NFL jobs. I don't know, man. And when you

793
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: make decisions strictly on money, which I will never blame

794
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: any human being for doing, when the money is so big,

795
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: I don't think you should do it. If the money.

796
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: You know, if you make a hundred grand right now

797
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: and you love your job and you think there is

798
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: areas for you to grow, or you're learning enough that

799
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: maybe in five years you can go out on your own,

800
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: but you'll have the skills because of what you're learning.

801
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: Just because someone offers you two hundred grand, especially depending

802
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: on the state, after taxes and stuff, it's not actually

803
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: that much of a net pay increase. It's not going

804
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: to change your life forever that if you have reservations,

805
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: it's not crazy to say no. But if you're making

806
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: a hundred grand and someone offers you a million dollars, like, well, shit,

807
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: if I just ride this out for two years, even

808
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: if I hate it, it's like, how am I going

809
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: to make that much money and then I can do

810
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: whatever I want. I can quit in two years. Right.

811
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: That's the thing with Lincoln Riley. He can't really quit.

812
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: It's kind of stuck and there's just no way around it.

813
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: It's been a disaster. Okay, Middlecoff mailbag time at John Middlecock?

814
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: At John Middlecock? Is the Instagram fire in those dms?

815
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: At John Middlecop firing the dms? Sorry Mark, diehard Lions fan.

816
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: I had a question about officiating and how atrocious it's been.

817
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: The Lions Bears game on Thanksgiving had a ton of

818
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: bad calls. How can the NFL take away some of

819
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: the judgment calls to prevent them from a manipulating games?

820
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: I hate it when close games end on touchy pass

821
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: interference calls. As a Lions fan, I have PTSD from

822
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: bad officiating. I think one thing that they tried, what

823
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: was like a year ago, maybe it was three years

824
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: two three years ago, was you could throw a challenge

825
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: flag pass interference and it was a disaster. I mean,

826
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: it got canceled after a year. And I also think

827
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: that they've been very hesitant because Belichick's always been adamant,

828
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: why can't we challenge any call? Why can you challenge,

829
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, a targeting call, or you can challenge a catch,

830
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: you know, in or out of bounds, but I can't

831
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: challenge a hold, Like how do we arbitrarily pick what

832
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: is challengeable and what is not? And I've always thought

833
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: there was some merit to that, But I also think

834
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: the league and if I was in charge on that side,

835
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: there is an EBB and a flow to a game

836
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: that you don't want people constantly going to the monitor.

837
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: It's one thing that's killed basketball. If you watch a

838
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: basketball game the last couple of minutes, College are pro

839
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: just take too long, and there has to be a

840
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: flow because football there's a very distinct play happens, huddle

841
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: up play happens, and when you get too much to

842
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: lay it can really throw off the U. I would

843
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: say the rhythm of a game, and flags do that

844
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: in general. I've said forever. Officiate officiating and referees in

845
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: general are a little bit like government officials. The more

846
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: incompetent you are, it feels like the more you get

847
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: elevated and you never get fired like that. That's what's

848
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: always bothered me. You know, in pro sports, especially basketball

849
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: and football, where so many things are very, very subjective.

850
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you blow that foul call and it

851
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: costs me a playoff series and we get bounced and

852
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: I get fired or or I get traded, or in

853
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: the NF, like I get cost a couple games because

854
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: of bad officiating, I get fired and my player gets cut.

855
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: Nothing happens with these guys, and I don't have an answer,

856
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 1: nothing ever changes. So I've just kind of gotten tired

857
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: of talking about it because I don't think. I don't

858
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: really see an outcome. Like certain things, It's like I

859
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: realized yesterday. Every time I fold clothes like T shirts

860
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: or workout clothes or shorts, when I grab them back

861
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: a day, a week, whenever later, they're always wrinkled. I

862
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: do not know how to fold. Close. I am guaranteed

863
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: wash dry, Put in my bucket, take to my bed,

864
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: fold up, put in the drawers. When I regrab to war,

865
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: that piece of clothing will be wrinkled. When I watch

866
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: football or why I watch sports in general, like I

867
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: am prepared for bad goals. It is what it is.

868
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: It never changes no matter what I do. Roll it up,

869
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: fold it right, watch a YouTube clip. It's gonna be wrinkled.

870
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: No matter what happens when I'm sitting on the couch,

871
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: whether I'm betting on the game, whether I'm just enjoying

872
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: the game, bad calls. It sucks, but it just is

873
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: what it is. I have a question about the college

874
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: football playoffs and the bowl games in which they're involved.

875
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: In your opinion, which bowl game should host the national championship. Personally,

876
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: I think the championship should be held at the Rose

877
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: Bowl every year, the grand daddy of them all. It

878
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: has always felt like the biggest bowl game. What's your take?

879
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: It's funny, you know, part of these questions, you guys

880
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: ask things that I've never thought of, because I really

881
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: don't care. As long as the Rose Bowl has a

882
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: playoff game, it doesn't. You could put the national championship

883
00:50:54,520 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: in Arizona, in Jerry's Palace in New Orleans, in Atlanta,

884
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: I don't. It doesn't matter to me. I don't know

885
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: why the Rose Ball is cool. It's actually better as

886
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: a independent event, like a playoff game than it is

887
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: for UCLA playing way, you know, miles upon miles outside

888
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: of campus. But it doesn't like if it's in Arizona,

889
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: which I think it's It was a championship game. They

890
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: definitely had either one of the two games here last year.

891
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't care. I guess, just to be completely honest,

892
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: I just don't care. I have a Fugazi Friday. Why

893
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: are these college football players trying to plan a flag

894
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: into the turf? I get the symbolism, and I'm not

895
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: against it. I will say it's a little corny when

896
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 1: they attempt to plant the flag, But on the other side,

897
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: it's also kind of corny that they want to fight

898
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: about it when they just had sixty minutes to fight anyways,

899
00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: the pole can't stick into turf. Yeah, I don't know.

900
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,479
Speaker 1: I just think everyone's excited. You know, you got that pole,

901
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: you got the turf you want to celebrate on opposing

902
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, your rivals field. But you're right. No flagpole

903
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: has ever stuck into the turf. Ever has happened, and

904
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: ever will happen. I think, as someone said the pitchfork,

905
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: it might have been my guy Jackson yesterday talking college football,

906
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: because it literally has like kind of spikes kind of

907
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: stuck in, which would make a little sense. I mean,

908
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: the flag pole. Even Baker Mayfield when he kind of

909
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: started this years ago, he just kept hitting it I get.

910
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: I enjoy like this is college football that there is

911
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: no disputing the level of play is better in the NFL,

912
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: just in terms of the best players at the sport

913
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: in the world. Now, grant, it's not a worldwide sport,

914
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, play in the NFL.

915
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: But there is something someone sent me. A buddy of mine, Scottie,

916
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: sent me this clip of Michigan coming out to the

917
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: Sakario like soundtrack music to the movie with there's a

918
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: couple of them's. It's really good. And when Michigan walks

919
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: out to the like to the field on last Saturday

920
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: at Ohio State and it just kind of opens and

921
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: you see red everywhere, You're like, this is badass, man.

922
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: This is the college football Atmospheres are second to none,

923
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: even for as great as the NFL is, And the

924
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: NFL has great atmospherees too, like Cleveland, Denver, obviously, Lambeau,

925
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Philly. I mean there are great places to

926
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: play Seattle when they're good, but there's nothing like that.

927
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: There's nothing like that. The Trevor Lawrence hit is something

928
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: I agree with you on. It was a bang, bang

929
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: play and at full speed. I don't think we were

930
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: asking players to make control acts to avoid hitting the quarterback.

931
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: That said, as a rule change, what do you think

932
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: about this? Behind the line of scrimmage, the quarterback receives

933
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: all the normal protections, but once he advances past the

934
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, he is just another runner with no

935
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: rules or protections, no unique rules or protections. This will

936
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: incentivize quarterbacks to avoid the collision themselves and allow defenders

937
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: to actually play and not be confused. Thanks for considering

938
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: my question. Consider your question considered. I think these guys

939
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: are so inbolden because they know I can't be touched.

940
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: We talked about this on the podcast. In what world

941
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: would it cross your mind as a quarterback to get

942
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 1: to the sideline like Caleb did and cut it back.

943
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: You couldn't have paid any quarterback Farve to l Way

944
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: to think of just whoever Roethlisberger in his prime to

945
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: do that. Wait, I'm gonna fucking take a hit. But

946
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: now these guys think, oh, they'll probably pull up and

947
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: I'll get some extra yards and then I'll slide. That's insane.

948
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm not blaming Caleb because he's just playing by the rules.

949
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: Like I don't blame anyone who uh, I root for

950
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: accountants to take advantage of the code. Right, the code

951
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: is created and you're following it and you get every

952
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: loophole humanly possible. Right, and if you're within the letter

953
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: of the law, like he's not breaking, like he's there's

954
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: no rule in which he is. Uh, you know he's

955
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: breaking by cutting it back in, but he is taking

956
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: advantage knowing these guys are pulling up where in the

957
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,959
Speaker 1: history of football you never would have not just kept

958
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: sprinting to get away because that guy wouldn't stop, and

959
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: that guy would clean your clock. And we have to

960
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: kind of rein it in. I'm with you, pocket quarterbacks.

961
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: Protect these guys want to see it even behind the

962
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: line of scrim is like you start running around. Trevor

963
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: Lawrence is six foot six, two hundred and twenty ounce.

964
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence does not run a six forty. He runs

965
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: like you know four six five at that size, Like

966
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: that is big, that's like that's like a tight end.

967
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: Tight end is a little bigger in terms of weight,

968
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: maybe two hundred and thirty five, two hundred and forty pounds,

969
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: but that's moving any slide in the last second, like

970
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: you said, Alshire's coming full speed. Also, if you I'm

971
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: not against diving head first in a situation like that

972
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: because no one's gonna touch you. They'll just they'll just

973
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: tap you. But when you kind of slide because you're

974
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: standing up and you wait till the last second, like

975
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: it brings everything into play. The most agreeous by a mile, though,

976
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: is the is any fake slide or fake go out

977
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: of bounce keep going? That's you. You deserve to get

978
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: destroyed on that. Caleb's got lucky he didn't get his

979
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: legs snapped. A question for the bag. If you are

980
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: the Lions this upcoming off season, okay, we're already, we're

981
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: already into March, what do you do about James and Williams.

982
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: Brad Holmes is, it's been a spectacular drafter for the Lions,

983
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: but I feel his play has not been worthy of

984
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: a first round pick plus trade up to get them.

985
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: Plus they traded up to get them. The Lions knew

986
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: they were putting on his rookie season due to the

987
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: knee injury, but afterwards between the suspensions online sports gambling

988
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: twenty three pedes violation this season, and I think he

989
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: just I actually think he got off on the gun thing, right,

990
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: there were two guns in the car, he claimed, like

991
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: he didn't have the concealed carry. I don't even know

992
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: the rules in Michigan. Obviously not an ideal situation in

993
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: the middle of the night. And I'm not like, I'm

994
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: not anti guns here, but in all these players have

995
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: every right, just like I have a right. You have

996
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: a right to have fucking be packing heat. And depending

997
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: on the state you live in, like I could walk

998
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: in a safeway right now and this open This is

999
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: an open carry state. So it's like, I'm not your

1000
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: media member pushing against that. I do not care. I

1001
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: grew up in a home with way more guns than people.

1002
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: But I do think you have to be smart about

1003
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: what you're doing, and if you're Jameis and Williams, like,

1004
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: we got to make some better decisions. I think any

1005
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: time you take a player like him that I would say,

1006
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: it's pretty unique. Like he's going to be a speed

1007
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: stretch the field. He's not gonna be some total package, right,

1008
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: and the way you guys build your offense, you just

1009
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: need him to stretch the field and his speed is elite.

1010
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: The moment I thought on Thanksgiving the Thanksgiving moment way

1011
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: worse than anything happened with his brother getting pulled over

1012
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: by a mile It's like, because one, I don't even

1013
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: know if they're breaking the law. Two, like the thing

1014
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving throwing the fucking ball into the guy's face

1015
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: and then coming to the sideline and looking at Antoine

1016
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: RANDALLLL and telling him that I it sure looked like

1017
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: he was trying to convince him that I was throwing

1018
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 1: it to the ref and Andron Randall was not having

1019
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: any of it, and he was begging and pleading, and

1020
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: Antoine randelll is losing. It was incredible. It was the

1021
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: coolest coach player moment of Thanksgiving by a wide march.

1022
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: It was awesome. But it's like, bro, what are you doing?

1023
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: And then Dan Campbell said after the game that he

1024
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: apologize to the team. It feels like he's doing a

1025
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: lot of apologizing, Like I'm not a huge Like, listen,

1026
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: you screw up once. It's one thing if you're a child,

1027
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: but like once we get to business and you work

1028
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: with people, like, listen, we make a mistake, you don't

1029
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: need to apologet it all the time. We're's on to

1030
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: the next fucking get it done. No one gives a fuck,

1031
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: Like don't need your handheld. Same thing with the NFL,

1032
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: Like if you're constantly apologizing, like we got problems. If

1033
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: you apologize more than you make plays, Like if that's

1034
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: the ratio, your status for the team is going to

1035
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: be up in the air. Now, he definitely has value,

1036
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: Like the Kancy Chiefs would they trade for him? Cause

1037
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: I think they would. You know, that's the type guy

1038
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: Ady Reid. He's twenty three years old. This is his

1039
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: third season. He's having a career year now. Granted, like

1040
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,439
Speaker 1: you said, he you know, his rookie year didn't even count.

1041
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: He had one catch, barely played toward the end of

1042
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: the season. Last year, in twelve games, he had twenty

1043
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: four catches and two touchdowns. It's crazy, and he had

1044
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: a rushing touchdown. This year he's got thirty catches, four touchdowns.

1045
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: Does give him this? You know? In his thirty catches,

1046
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: he's averaged in twenty yards catch, Like he is a

1047
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: really explosive player, Like could you get the would you

1048
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: just trade him? It sucks, but like you gotta go

1049
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: a little spilled milk, like it's over nothing you're gonna do.

1050
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: Do you trade him to the Chiefs for like a

1051
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: third round pick, cause I would the Chiefs trade a

1052
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: second round pick. Now, if that pick is like sixty,

1053
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: I might, I'd sure think about it. It'd be risky.

1054
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: But he makes more sense with the Chiefs than he

1055
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: does one his style of play. It was like when

1056
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill first got there with the Chiefs. With Alex

1057
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: you know who your quarterback is as a speed demon

1058
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: does impact your ability one thing to it? Does? He

1059
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: throws a pretty good de ball, right, So Tyreek makes

1060
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: sense with him, even though he doesn't have the arm

1061
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: strength of Patrick Mahomes. Now he doesn't have a great

1062
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: deep ball when it gets cold and windy, but if

1063
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: it's not cold and wendy, he throws a good deep ball.

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01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: To me. He's got traded to the Chiefs. Written all

1065
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: over you get Jamison Williams Worthy. Maybe you resigned DeAndre

1066
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: Hopkins or she Rice comes back. All of a sudden,

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01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: your offense looks a little more explosive and you can

1068
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: just listen. You tried, you got aggressive move on Jamison

1069
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: Williams too, Like you said, you trade it up. He

1070
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: was the twelfth pick in the draft. You know, looking back,

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01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: he was at Ohio State, and he wasn't as good

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01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: as who'd they have Jackson Smith. You know, Harrison would

1073
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: have been really young. They had one other wide receiver too,

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01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: I can't think of at the top of my head, oh,

1075
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson. So it's like, well, he wasn't as good

1076
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: as those two guys, and those guys are good, right,

1077
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: So I was like, those guys are makes sense why

1078
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: he couldn't beat out, Like it's like you ain't playing here.

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01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, we got this guy named Jackson Smith,

1080
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: we got Marvin Harrison who's a seventeen year old, and

1081
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: we got Garrett Wilson. You're not gonna play my man,

1082
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: which in theory teased to justify. It's like, well, he

1083
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: couldn't play there, And now looking back, it's like, well

1084
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of a problem. You drafted this guy twelve

1085
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: coming off a knee injury. It's like, well, yeah, he

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01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: couldn't play there because those guys are really good players

1087
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: who are also drafted in a similar range. Jackson Smith

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01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: goes what like pick twenty, Garrett goes pick ten, this

1089
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: guy goes twelve. It's like, yeah, those guys are on

1090
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: a different level than him. Stay with Marvin. Why do

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01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: you think the Broncos refuse to put Certain on Judy

1092
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: last night? It seems like a no brainer to match

1093
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: arguably the number one corner in the league to the

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01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: opposing teams number one wide receiver. Could it possibly be

1095
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: because Certain and Judy are ex teammates and good friends

1096
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: where it's an overall skill thing. I didn't watch any

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01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: of the postgame press conference, or maybe Sean I'm recording

1098
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: this on Wednesday, has talked about it. I guess this

1099
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: week they're on a buy house, so I don't even

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01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: know if he's talking on Wednesday, it's like a normal

1101
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: game week. I don't think them being friends obviously, you

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01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: know they played together at Alabama has anything to do

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01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: with it. I think it's a scheme specific thing. They

1104
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: have a game plan. But it did feel like after

1105
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: three or four of the big plays, like what are

1106
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: we doing? Guys? Listen? It's one thing your defense, little gas,

1107
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have as good of a game as

1108
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: you normally have. It's another thing where literally this guy's

1109
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: wide open constantly. What's Elijah Moore gonna kill you? It's

1110
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: like it's kind of one of those things like Hey,

1111
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: Steph Curry's not hitting the shot, someone else has to

1112
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: hit it. Like eventually, It's like, let's cover Jerry Judy.

1113
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: Najoku only gets ten to fifteen yards around the line

1114
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, right, He's not running go routes, and Elijah

1115
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: Moore is like a possession receiver. I got Judy going

1116
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: deep on me, and if Jamis hadn't missed him on

1117
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: the one, Jerry Judy could have had like three hundred

1118
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: and fifty yards, Jamis could have easily had six hundred

1119
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: yards offense. So I don't know, you'd have to. My

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01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: guess not has anything to do with the personal you know,

1121
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,919
Speaker 1: friends all about scheme and the game plan. I'm also

1122
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:44,439
Speaker 1: a lifelong Ohio State hater. Here's my take. Ohio State

1123
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: football is the Kentucky Basketball of the sport. They're more

1124
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: a collection of individual talents than a collection of a

1125
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: football team. Their focus is clearly on recruiting and showcasing

1126
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: the most blue chip prospects that they can and having

1127
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: those prospects go and succeed in the NFL. The fans

1128
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: clearly care about on the field results, but it seems

1129
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: like the coaching staffs care more about having shiny toys

1130
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: so they can show a track record of future success

1131
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: to make it easier to recruit the next batch. It

1132
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: seems like the exact same problem Cali Perry had at

1133
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: Kentucky when he continuously lost to teams that had focused

1134
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: on developing an actual team. You could argue that that

1135
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: wasn't the case with irb Meyer, like he built teams.

1136
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: Obviously he built teams that had higher level recruits, but

1137
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: they were excellent, like that team that beat Alabama with

1138
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:48,919
Speaker 1: shotgun Cardello Jones. They were elite on defense right from

1139
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa to Darren Lee to their dbs, like they

1140
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: were a unit on defense. I think Ryan Day can

1141
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: build an offense. They made the wrong decision, probably a

1142
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: quarterback that like, Yeah, it was easy to point the

1143
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: finger at Kyle McCord, but I think Kyle McCord as

1144
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: we sit here today is just a better player than

1145
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: Will Howard. And if it was twenty fourteen, you would

1146
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: have had no choice, Like Kyle McCord still would have

1147
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,919
Speaker 1: been on the team. And even if Will Howard could

1148
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: have transferred, like is he beating him out? And even

1149
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: then the transfer rules, he would have had to sit

1150
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: out a year, So without the transfer portal, I think

1151
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: Kyle McCord is still the quarterback and they're better off

1152
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: now they don't have some of these other players that

1153
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: they got, like Caleb Downs and stuff, So it's it

1154
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: goes both ways. I think it's more of a reflection

1155
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: of Ryan Day. I think what you're talking about specifically

1156
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: is Ryan Day and Calipari. I think Ryan Day recruits

1157
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: like Calipari does in football or in basketball. Of I

1158
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: want the wide receivers and I want the offense because defensively,

1159
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: I never really hated him till Ryan Day took over.

1160
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: Like I'm not a big Urban Meyer guy, but I

1161
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: respect his teams and under Trussel like they would have

1162
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: like every unit would have NFL guys. Now you're watching

1163
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: their team like, yeah, Caleb Down is their best defender,

1164
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: but he just came from Alabama, wasn't their guy? So

1165
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: the best players on their team are their wide receivers,

1166
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: which most of my life Ohio State dominant offensive and

1167
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: defensive lines, unreal linebackers, great running backs. Now the running

1168
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: backs are good now, but like, how did Where's like

1169
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa and Nick Bosa and Chase Young, where are

1170
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 1: those players. The dude that the Browns just drafted this

1171
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: year in the second round, I forget his name. He

1172
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 1: got in trouble in training camp. So I think it's

1173
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: a Ryan Day thing, like Kirby doesn't do that. I

1174
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: think it's he doesn't know how to I would say,

1175
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: recruit defense. How would he He's never been I mean,

1176
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: he got handed the job. How does Kirby know how

1177
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: to recruit defense? I don't know. He coached under Nick's

1178
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: for most of his life and he's a defensive guy.

1179
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: I'd argue this, quarterbacks are. Quarterbacks are. But I bet

1180
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: most people listening to this if I picked five listeners

1181
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: and I said we're going to become we're going to

1182
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: run the recruiting for let's just pick USC this year,

1183
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: me and five guys, I think it'd be pretty hard

1184
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: to screw up the skill guys. We would be. If

1185
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 1: you are swimming in the deep end of the pool

1186
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: and I got access, and I got nil to the

1187
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: best wide receivers and running backs, we ain't gonna miss.

1188
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: We're going to get NFL prospects at seventeen years old.

1189
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: Defensive players are a little harder because they're wiring their mindset. Obviously,

1190
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: they have to fit certain requirements of high weight speed. Right,

1191
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: You're not going to play power five football at defensive

1192
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: end and be five ten. But I'm just saying, like,

1193
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: what makes Nick and Joey and some of these guys

1194
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: so good aren't just right just their size, It's also

1195
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: a mindset and a toughness, Like does Ryan Dave and

1196
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 1: know what that looks like? I don't think so, Chip

1197
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: Kelly does not. I think it's a more reflection. It's

1198
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: Kentucky basketball. It was John Calipari basketball, so he's John

1199
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 1: cal Party. But John has a long resume of like, listen,

1200
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: we can nitpick John in the tournament. John's pretty good

1201
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: at his job. Is Ryan? I don't know? Also cal

1202
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: Party has won a national championship. Been a long time

1203
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: listening to the pod, but have never sent in a

1204
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: question but the mail bag. But here it is given

1205
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: how Bryce Young is rebounded since becoming a starter. Do

1206
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 1: you think the Panther should give him another year to

1207
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: develop see what he brings to completely start over a

1208
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft. So he sent me a He

1209
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: sent me some stats. Basically, Bryce Young has led the

1210
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 1: Panthers to back to back wins for the first time

1211
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: since twenty one. Baker Mayfield said, I'm proud of him.

1212
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: This guy has the potential to do anything he wants

1213
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: to do. Bryce Young has a eighty four point six

1214
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 1: passer rating, third in the NFL. The last five weeks,

1215
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 1: he has almost nine hundred yards, five touchdowns, and one interception.

1216
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: Bryce Young is one the Panthers quarterback next year. Completely

1217
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: resurrected his career. I still have reservations with a guy

1218
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: that size and in a weird way because they were

1219
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: so shitty. You kind of get to fly like there's

1220
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: not much pressure on your team. But if you just

1221
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 1: watch him in a vacuum, he's played much better. He's

1222
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: played like a real player. I talked to Hi Buddy,

1223
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 1: a scouting buddy the other day, and it was like,

1224
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make like bold statements on Bryce Young,

1225
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: but he's a real NFL player right now. That could

1226
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 1: not be said when he got bench for Andy Goldon.

1227
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: He hadn't been a real NFL play. He'd been playing

1228
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 1: in games, but he was like, if he wasn't the

1229
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 1: number one overall pick and had been a late round

1230
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: pick or he would have been benched, he would have

1231
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: been cut. This guy's a real player and one thousand

1232
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: if he keeps maintaining I would say this level of play,

1233
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: they won't even entertain drafting a quarterback high, which should

1234
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: be very, very positively taken if you look at where

1235
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: they were six games ago. I appreciate everyone that listens

1236
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: on Spotify that has linked me on you know, on

1237
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: the things. I guess I'm an Apple podcast guy, but

1238
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: I know on Spotify that you know, every maybe the

1239
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: calendar year for them ends December first, in you guys

1240
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: link that has three and out with you know, from

1241
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 1: everyone to Cowards, Joe Rogan to you name it, every

1242
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: big podcast. So I appreciate everyone that has sent me

1243
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: those on Instagram. I'm a big Ravens fan, and despite

1244
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: being eight and five, I still feel really good about

1245
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: our chances. Tucker has in my opinion, lost us four

1246
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: games this year, and the defense has been playing better

1247
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: of late since they moved Hamilton back to deep safety.

1248
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: I really feel the Ravens should be eleven or two

1249
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: or twelve and one, but penalties and uncharacteristically bad special

1250
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: teams have cost us dearly. Do you think that since

1251
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: the Ravens won't go into the postseason as the best

1252
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: team in football. Then it might take some pressure off Lamar.

1253
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: I think I think it adds pressure because you assume

1254
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: you know your defense. Your defense still is nowhere near

1255
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: what it was. Part of the reason there were so

1256
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: much pressure on Lamar last year is like you have

1257
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: the best defense, you're the MVP, and you have the

1258
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: best defensive football. Like, if I tell you over the

1259
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: last forty years, I get the quarterback who's the MVP

1260
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 1: of the league and his defense is the best defense

1261
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: in football, and you're the number one seed, will you

1262
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: pick them to win the Super Bowl? You would take

1263
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: them every time. If I told you the playoffs are starting,

1264
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: regardless if you got to go through Joe Montana, Elway,

1265
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 1: Brady farre Rod, you name it. I don't give a

1266
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: shit to the Mahomes. If I get the MVP of

1267
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: the league and the best defense in the league, I

1268
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: will take my chances every day of the week. Like

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Speaker 1: you have a kicker that's not reliable right now. So

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Speaker 1: these football games even look last year against the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: they scored seventeen points. So if you had played better,

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Speaker 1: maybe you win the game twenty to seventeen. But typically

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Speaker 1: how do you get twenty points, score a couple of

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Speaker 1: touchdowns and get two field goals? Can you rely on

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Speaker 1: this guy to kick field goals right now? And I

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Speaker 1: saw Belichick say that, and he's right. It's not like

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Speaker 1: Tucker's balls. Are you going thirty yards and diving into

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Speaker 1: the ground or hitting the center in the back of

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Speaker 1: the ass. It is flying in the air. But Belichick,

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Speaker 1: being the football savant that he is, he's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: the thing about Justin Tucker is he didn't hit a

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Speaker 1: hooker a fade. He hit straight balls. It went dead straight.

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Speaker 1: And if you watch him now, he's hooking him left

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Speaker 1: and he's cutting it and slicing it right, so clearly.

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Speaker 1: And I know nothing about kicking, but that was honestly

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Speaker 1: one of the most insightful things I've heard about Justin

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Speaker 1: Tucker because it's easy for us he's missing kicks, but

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Speaker 1: for Belichick, who's obviously played this guy and the Ravens

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Speaker 1: in a ton of big games the last decade plus,

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Speaker 1: I would if I had to guess several playoff games,

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Speaker 1: five six regular season games, I mean, he's and Belichick

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Speaker 1: is like a you know, it gets horny for kickers,

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Speaker 1: Like if Belichick right now beside John Harbaugh could give,

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Speaker 1: by far of anyone in the NFL, any coach, any position,

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Speaker 1: the best scatting report on Justin Tucker, and him saying

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Speaker 1: that was like, damn, that's good point because some guys

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Speaker 1: naturally play a little cut, naturally play a little draw.

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Speaker 1: Justin Tucker straight ball. Now it's going all so clearly

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Speaker 1: he's in his own head. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: fix that in December, because not like he just got

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Speaker 1: in his own head after one week. It's it's been

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Speaker 1: an accumulation. These playoff games all come down to a

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Speaker 1: point or two because, like you say, you have good chance,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, you got a good team, so

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Speaker 1: you can win a playoff game. But if you are

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Speaker 1: the sixth seed, you are going to have to win

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Speaker 1: three road games just to get to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And I do think it's fair to say, even if

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Speaker 1: your team kicks as in one game. So let's say

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Speaker 1: you win one game by fifteen points, like pretty easily,

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Speaker 1: the other two games are probably gonna be a one

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Speaker 1: score game. You hell, one of those games, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be down probably in the second half. You are going

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Speaker 1: to rely on your kicker so you could argue the

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Speaker 1: kicker is a bigger issue than your defense. If your defense,

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Speaker 1: like you said, just listen how many points you give

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Speaker 1: up to the Eagles, not like they scored fifty points,

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Speaker 1: So your defense definitely look better in that game. Your

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Speaker 1: defense was not the problem. Honestly, you guys are holding

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Speaker 1: Saquon pretty well until he busted a couple of second

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Speaker 1: half runs. Okay, last question question for the bag. Being

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Speaker 1: a Patriot fan, I'm super excited about what we've seen

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Speaker 1: so far from may That being said, I'm concerned about

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Speaker 1: what I've seen from the rest of the team. Don't

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Speaker 1: blame you. The defense was supposed to be elite, but

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Speaker 1: now it's looking like the defense of the past, where

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Speaker 1: a product of Belichick. The roster is brutal. Is there

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Speaker 1: any chance that they can get the roster turned around

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Speaker 1: next year? Are we so far behind player wise that

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Speaker 1: we won't be in the conversation for multiple years. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a good question because, and this is the thing

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Speaker 1: where Belichick and Mayo kind of went back and forth.

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Speaker 1: Right and the Belichick supporters say, well, they extended a

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Speaker 1: lot of the dudes on defense that were our guys,

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Speaker 1: and rightfully so why wouldn't they The defense has been

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Speaker 1: pretty good, so you would want bar More, you would

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Speaker 1: want Dugger. Obviously, Christian Gonzalez a young player, but you

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Speaker 1: want him. You want that core group of guys on

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Speaker 1: your squad. The defense is not necessarily gonna change, but

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Speaker 1: we've seen those players be solid before. Offensively, you guys

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01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: are futrid. I mean, offensively you're really bad. The offensive

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Speaker 1: line is awful. I would say this offseason two things

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01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: should happen. Pay because you're gonna have cap space, buy

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Speaker 1: some skill guys, buy some players, and listen. Sometimes you

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01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: got to overpay. But the Jags remember a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago, overpaid for Christian Kirk. Is like, yeah, do

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Speaker 1: I want to pay Kirk eighteen million dollars a year?

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Speaker 1: Would I rather pay him twelve? Of course? But it

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01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: was clear, like right away, cooks pretty good player. So

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Speaker 1: if you can do a couple moves like that with

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver tight end. You tried it a couple

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01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: of years ago with John Who and Hunter Henry. Buy

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01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 1: a tight end, buy a couple of wide receivers, and

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01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: then just draft offensive lineman. I would draft offensive line

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Speaker 1: with like every pick because part of what made Brady

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Speaker 1: and Dante's Garnekia and Belichick and Josh like their offensive

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01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: line always felt solid, even when they had guys that

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Speaker 1: they were overachieving with. And listen, I remember, like as

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Speaker 1: a friends of State guy Ryan Wendell, who was starting

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Speaker 1: for you guys in the early twenty tens, you know,

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Speaker 1: in your Super Bowl team, like this is crazy. It's

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Speaker 1: like Ryan Whendell starts for the Patriots. But they could

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Speaker 1: take these tough, smart guys and make them into solid starters.

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Speaker 1: And obviously over the years from Logan Mankins also prison

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Speaker 1: State guy Matt White, like, you guys have had really

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Speaker 1: good players as well, but you could mix and match

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Speaker 1: some high end talents with some like overachieving guys and

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Speaker 1: then Brady and Josh and Dante. It was just a

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Speaker 1: well run operation. It never felt like for the most part. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you had the one year I think Dante retired and

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Speaker 1: I forget the guy's name, but Belichick hired this guy

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Speaker 1: and he lasted one year he got fired. I think

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01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: it was the year you guys lost to Denver in

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Speaker 1: the AFC Championship Game, which, in fairness like that was

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01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 1: a tough matchup for you guys, von Miller, DeMarcus ware Wolf,

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Speaker 1: and Malik Jackson. Like shit, I mean there, you could

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Speaker 1: have an offensive line full of five Trent Williams and

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01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: that defensive line is gonna be a problem. But like

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Speaker 1: Dante coming back helped you out, I do think you

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Speaker 1: got to invest there. I would spend my money even

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Speaker 1: if I quote unquote got overpay skill guys. Hell, look

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Speaker 1: at Sakwon Josh Jacobs. Running Backs become available on the

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01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,600
Speaker 1: open market, running backs, full backs, tight ends, wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: and draft offensive lineman. I think the first your first pick.

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Speaker 1: I haven't I don't have like an updated big board

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01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: and haven't really been asking guys in the league in

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01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: terms of offensive lineman. But typically every year there's a

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Speaker 1: couple offensive tackles that are worthy of a top Last

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Speaker 1: year was a really good year. Off the top of

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Speaker 1: my head, I don't know. I'd have to ask around,

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01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 1: but I think you gotta be Ideally, you take an

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle high, like you get your Lane Johnson, your

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Speaker 1: Trent Williams, your Pinae Seul like that's and then the

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Speaker 1: second round draft your Landon Dickerson or Logan Mankins, get

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Speaker 1: a garter center or Quentin Nelson or whoever you know.

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Speaker 1: So I get a tackle and a guard I would take.

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Speaker 1: I would take those two positions in the first two rounds.

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Speaker 1: That would be my goal coming into the draft. Can

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Speaker 1: I get a starting tackle and a starting guard. And

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Speaker 1: in the third round it's like I might take another

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Speaker 1: guarter tackle or vice versa. Take take back to back

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01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 1: tackles and then a garter center. I would be very

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01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: aggressive with offensive linemen, so that that's probably to me

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01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: the key. But like the roster is pretty shitty. I mean,

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Speaker 1: part of the reason Belichick took a lot of shit

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01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: not because it was a bad coach, awful GM and

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01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: didn't leave him A lot of talent on offense was putrid.

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones sucks, but the offense he was playing with

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Speaker 1: wasn't that good either. So appreciate everyone for listening. Share

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Speaker 1: with your friends, share with your enemies. We will talk

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Speaker 1: tomorrow after the Thursday night game Lions and Packers. Can't

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Speaker 1: wait for that, bad boy, have a good day talk

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Speaker 1: sooom see you the volume