WEBVTT - Tough Questions with Bill Nye

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<v Speaker 1>We have to believe except work toward the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to address climate change in a way

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<v Speaker 1>big enough to preserve the quality of life for billions

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<v Speaker 1>of people around the world. If you go into this

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<v Speaker 1>thinking we're going to get overwhelmed and lose, then we

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<v Speaker 1>will turn it out.

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<v Speaker 2>People.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah fucked.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Chris Turney, and this is unfucking the future. The

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<v Speaker 4>world today is full of some pretty bad news, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's way too easy to get bogged down by it.

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<v Speaker 4>But there are some incredible people working on climate solutions,

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<v Speaker 4>and I want you to join them so that we

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<v Speaker 4>can fix this crisis together.

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<v Speaker 3>We fucking the future.

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<v Speaker 4>Bill Nice standing in the science lab, well, actually it's

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<v Speaker 4>John Olives studio. Looks like a size lab in front

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<v Speaker 4>of him. He's got a globe, a fire extinguisher, a

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<v Speaker 4>bucket of sand, and a blanket.

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got an experiment for you, safety glasses on. By

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this century, if O missions keep rising,

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<v Speaker 1>the average temperature on Earth could go up another four

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<v Speaker 1>to eight degrees.

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<v Speaker 4>He brings out a flamethrower and lights for globe on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying is the planet's on fucking fire.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of things we could do to

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<v Speaker 1>put it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Bill points for a bucket of sand and the fire extinguisher.

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<v Speaker 2>Are any of them free? No, of course not. Not

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<v Speaker 2>thing's free. You idiots. Grow the fuck up. You're not

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<v Speaker 2>children anymore. I didn't mind explaining.

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<v Speaker 1>Photosynthenceus to you when you were twelve, but you're adults

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<v Speaker 1>now and this is an actual crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it. Safety glasses off, motherfucker's.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know who doesn't know Bill Nye, but indulge

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<v Speaker 4>me while I brag on Bill a bit. He's an

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<v Speaker 4>award winning entertainer and educator, engineer at Boeing and currently

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<v Speaker 4>the CEO of a Planetary Society. Bill's TV shows Bill

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<v Speaker 4>Nye Saves the Earth and Bill ny The Science Guy

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<v Speaker 4>have collected over fifty prestigious award nominations, including nineteen Emmy Awards.

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<v Speaker 4>He's written two best selling books on science. Today, he

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<v Speaker 4>spends a lot of his time educating a public about

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<v Speaker 4>the climate crisis and arguing for action. His latest show

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<v Speaker 4>is called The End Is Nigh Now. Something you may

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<v Speaker 4>not know is that before there was Bill ny the

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<v Speaker 4>Science Guy, there was Bill Nye the stand up comedian.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean I tried, No, I middled. That was

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<v Speaker 1>as high as do you know what I'm talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>So comedy clubs typically have three acts in a row,

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<v Speaker 1>the MC as he or she is called the middle

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<v Speaker 1>and the headliner. Middling is as far as I got

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<v Speaker 1>in his day. You know, Jerry signed Field would be

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<v Speaker 1>the headliner.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah see, I ever got to MC. So you're way

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<v Speaker 4>ahead of me, and you and you actually believe it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not the second comedian climate activists I've actually spoken

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<v Speaker 4>to for great Adam McKay as well. So I'd love

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<v Speaker 4>to ask you, why do you What do you think

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<v Speaker 4>makes comedians such great climate activists?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, because we're so much smarter than regular people. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think what you're the selecting that you're experiencing. There

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<v Speaker 1>is people who don't mind talking all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>And do you think as well, just given the conversation

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<v Speaker 4>and the seriousness of it, that need for levity as well,

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<v Speaker 4>to sort of cut from the noise and actually get

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<v Speaker 4>people to pay attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think, well, the word you might throw around

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<v Speaker 1>is absurd. There's a certain features of the world around

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<v Speaker 1>us which seems silly or absurd or why does this

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<v Speaker 1>happen kind of thing? Especially where humans are involved. And

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of my friends are humans. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people I spent time the individuals that talk to me

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<v Speaker 1>in English generally.

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<v Speaker 4>Are that's reassuring, that's reassuring something. So far you never know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's a scientist never say never, right. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>always fascinated by how people get to this point in time?

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<v Speaker 4>How do people reach a point where they actually talk

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<v Speaker 4>about climate change? And let's be honest, it's a subject

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<v Speaker 4>and topic that most of us would rather really not

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<v Speaker 4>talk about. What was the point at which you reached

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<v Speaker 4>where you actually felt I need to talk about climate change?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, nineteen eighty eight, climate scientists named James Hanson Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Hanson testified in front of the US Congress.

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<v Speaker 4>There's good old Jim Hanson again. He's been mentioned by

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<v Speaker 4>almost every guest on this show. His testimony to Congress

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<v Speaker 4>in nineteen eighty eight was a seminal moment in climate history.

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<v Speaker 4>He's still a massive presence in climate science today.

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<v Speaker 5>Altogether, this evidence represents a very strong case, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 5>and that the greenhouse effect has been detected and it

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<v Speaker 5>is changing our climate now.

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<v Speaker 1>And that really raised awareness or motivated me to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm so old.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so old that I took one class from this famous,

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<v Speaker 1>famous astronomer named Carl Sagan, and he talked about what

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<v Speaker 1>he called comparative climatology all the time. This would be

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<v Speaker 1>comparing the climates of Earth, Venus, and Mars. And all

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<v Speaker 1>three of these planets have carbon dioxide, which produces the

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<v Speaker 1>greenhouse effect. But on Venus the greenhouse effect has, as

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<v Speaker 1>they say, run away.

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<v Speaker 6>Every planet with an atmosphere has some degree of a

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<v Speaker 6>greenhouse effect.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the great Carl Sagan and the greenhouse effect he's

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<v Speaker 4>talking about is a process where certain gases trapped the

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<v Speaker 4>heat from the Sun in the fs atmosphere. The greenhouse

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<v Speaker 4>effect helps warm our planet to a habitable temperature if

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't have it. For temperature with plummet to about

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<v Speaker 4>minus fifty degrees. A little bit of greenhouse gas is good,

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<v Speaker 4>but adding more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere is driving

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<v Speaker 4>up the temperature, and that's bad. That's a fundamental issue.

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<v Speaker 6>The most spectacular case by far is the greenhouse effect

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<v Speaker 6>of Venus. It's the nearest planet planet about the same mass,

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<v Speaker 6>radius density as the Earth, but it is spectacularly different

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<v Speaker 6>in several respects, one of which is that the surface

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<v Speaker 6>temperature is about four hundred and seventy degrees centigrade nine

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<v Speaker 6>hundred fahrenheit.

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<v Speaker 4>Doctor Jim Hanson and Carl's sake and our trailblazers. Since

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<v Speaker 4>Bill took Carl's class, he's gone on to teach millions

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<v Speaker 4>and millions of kids, teens, and adults about the wonders

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<v Speaker 4>of science and our Earth, Which is why Bill ninety

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<v Speaker 4>is a perfect person to answer some of the big

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<v Speaker 4>questions I get as a climate scientists. But to be honest,

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<v Speaker 4>I want bills help in answering. Okay, I bought in Amber,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the brilliant producers in last show, to share

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<v Speaker 4>some of the most frequently asked questions we get Amber,

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<v Speaker 4>What have you got for us?

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, Chris, it's pretty exciting to be on the other

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<v Speaker 7>side of the mic, I have to say. So. This

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<v Speaker 7>first one is something we talk a lot about behind

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<v Speaker 7>the scenes. How do we keep ourselves and other people

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<v Speaker 7>motivated to keep working on the climate crisis when honestly,

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<v Speaker 7>the shit is so depressing it feels like it's all

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<v Speaker 7>gone to hell. How do we keep people hopeful instead

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<v Speaker 7>of feeling like we should all just run to the hills.

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<v Speaker 1>The hills probably is not the place to run to,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way now. But and the thing is, I

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<v Speaker 1>say the time, you have to be optimistic. I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win anything here in the States. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it was. Is that the World Cup or

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<v Speaker 1>semifinals South Africa versus New Zealand and Rugby was.

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<v Speaker 2>On the telly.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't stick around to find out how that game

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<v Speaker 1>came out. I got distracted by other sporting events here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure somebody won. Along that line, each of those

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<v Speaker 1>teams believed strongly that they were going to win. They

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<v Speaker 1>were optimistic. They did not go into the match thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that they might lose or that they would lose. Rather,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to think you're going to win the match,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're not going to win it for crying a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And along that line, we have to make big changes.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't tell me we can't make big changes. My

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<v Speaker 1>grandfather was in France in World War One, and by

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<v Speaker 1>all accounts I wasn't there, But by all accounts he

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<v Speaker 1>rode a horse. Everybody from his generation knew how to

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<v Speaker 1>ride a horse well enough. But twenty five years later,

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<v Speaker 1>when his daughter also known as my mother and her boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>also known as my father.

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<v Speaker 2>Were in World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody who was serious about it was riding a horse,

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<v Speaker 1>and so everything changed. In twenty five years, everything changed.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got to change everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>I really like that. So what I'm hearing is we

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<v Speaker 4>got to keep obviously basick, but we can actually do

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<v Speaker 4>this and believe it and actually that sense of we

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<v Speaker 4>know we can do a massive change. We've done it before,

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<v Speaker 4>so we just but step all.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to accept that it's a massive change. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not just screwing around.

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<v Speaker 4>It's taking that iedgies or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope is not a so both of those teams pad hopes,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also had plans about how to win the match.

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<v Speaker 4>The other thing for me is to find easy ways

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<v Speaker 4>to get activated. It's not enough to say something is

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<v Speaker 4>an issue. We have to be solutions oriented when we

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<v Speaker 4>talk about climate change. So I'll just give an example

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<v Speaker 4>right now in Australia, we've got massive flooding going down

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<v Speaker 4>the East coast. But there's not enough to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>these things. Try to connect the conversation to what we

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<v Speaker 4>can do to solve it. We can't immediately stop the flooding,

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<v Speaker 4>but we can have a conversation about how to make

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<v Speaker 4>our homes more visilient to flooding. And those kinds of

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<v Speaker 4>conversations can make our friends and neighbors feel safe and

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<v Speaker 4>less worried about the future, and that in turn can

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<v Speaker 4>make people feel motivated to actually do something rather than

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<v Speaker 4>wallowing in the worry. All right, Amber, what else ficult fuss?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, this wants to settle an argument in my household?

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<v Speaker 7>Am I supposed to recycle?

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<v Speaker 5>I've been told.

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<v Speaker 7>By a lot of people that I should just not

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<v Speaker 7>recycle at all because so much of it doesn't actually

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<v Speaker 7>get recycled, which is super disappointing as someone who thoroughly

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<v Speaker 7>washes out all my cans, all my bottles, everything so

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<v Speaker 7>that it can be recycled.

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<v Speaker 4>So is it true?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, recycling is not a bad idea, not another tool,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not going to solve everybody's problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just there's two things you don't want, or three

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you don't want to waste those resources. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so much less energy to make aluminum out from

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<v Speaker 1>aluminum cans than it does from box site from the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you mind I mean, it's what is it ninety

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<v Speaker 1>percent less energy? Maybe ninety five percent, So let's not

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<v Speaker 1>be throwing aluminum cans away. And then the other thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want this material to end up in the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a huge problem with plastics it and so there's

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<v Speaker 1>a few things about the plastic in the ocean that

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<v Speaker 1>are troubling. First of all, there if you're a sea

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<v Speaker 1>turtle or somebody eating plastic is not nutritious, then there

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<v Speaker 1>is struggling things where the plastic kills you as an

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<v Speaker 1>ocean creature. But the other thing that's not known is

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<v Speaker 1>all these tiny pieces of people nowadays are called microplastics.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody exactly knows what's gonna what effect that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have on living things in the ocean. But you got

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<v Speaker 1>to think it's bad. It's intuitibly it's gotta be bad.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't throw stuff away. Let's recycle this remarkable material. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but while you're doing all that, you're not cutting greenhouse emissions.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, or rather a tiny amount they're cutting greenhouse emissions.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is much much bigger than that. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff we're in the air.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's ultimately what it is is,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean one of the things that people can do

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<v Speaker 4>day to day lives, basically to try and actually cut

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<v Speaker 4>their emissions.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I want people to talk about climate change, so

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<v Speaker 1>we do some vot and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Vote yeah, oh yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Combining your errands in the States, the biggest investment you

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<v Speaker 1>can make to reduce or to address climate changes whatever

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<v Speaker 1>car you drive, whatever vehicle you choose.

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<v Speaker 4>To drive, which brings us to our holy fuck segment.

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<v Speaker 4>Every year, Americans drive trillions and millions of miles. That's

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<v Speaker 4>trillions with a T. In the nineteen eighties, Americans drove

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<v Speaker 4>a modest one hundred and thirty five billion miles on

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<v Speaker 4>the interstate. That's just the interstate. But in twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 4>they drove two one hundred and fifty billion miles the interstate.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's a fucking enormous number. And we're not

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<v Speaker 4>asking you to ditch your car completely, but driving less

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<v Speaker 4>can make a huge difference. By some estimates, if the

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<v Speaker 4>average American drove just thirty miles less per week, that's

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<v Speaker 4>ten percent, it would reduce for US's carbon footprint by

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<v Speaker 4>about one hundred and ten million metric tons of carbon dioxide.

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<v Speaker 4>That's like removing twenty eight coal power plants.

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<v Speaker 1>This is in the US where we have everybody has

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<v Speaker 1>bar and roads or everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>So pick an efficient car.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason everybody talks about electric vehicles electric cars

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<v Speaker 1>is because they are inherently more efficient. Well, if the

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<v Speaker 1>electricity comes from a dirty coal fired power plant, you

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<v Speaker 1>got I know, yes, you're right, But the car doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know in the anwer from morphic sense where the electricity

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<v Speaker 1>comes from. So as we make our electrical generation systems

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<v Speaker 1>renewable from renewable electricity, or if you all want, if

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<v Speaker 1>you all want efficient nuclear power plants, the car doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know it. The car is still more efficient. And even

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<v Speaker 1>driving around an electric car with electricity made in a

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<v Speaker 1>coal fired power plant, you still come out ahead in

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<v Speaker 1>greenhouse gases because of the efficiency of the car, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not spreading the pollution all over the place. You

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<v Speaker 1>can potentially control the pollution at the generation source, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a filter, a bag house they call it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. I love Bill's point here, and I think we

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<v Speaker 4>should all focus on it. You often hear the argument

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<v Speaker 4>for the electric cars, it's just shifting which detty carpetsles

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<v Speaker 4>are power comes from. So what's the point. But Bill's

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely right because the efficiencies are so much higher on

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<v Speaker 4>the electric and fossil fuel, everything else being equal, it's

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<v Speaker 4>still saving on cop in the missions.

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<v Speaker 3>We're fucking the future. We're fucking the future.

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<v Speaker 4>This is really fun. I feel like I'm letting some

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<v Speaker 4>good talking points too. What's next?

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<v Speaker 7>Amba, Yeah, I mean, I'm having a great time, So

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<v Speaker 7>bear with me on this one. And I'm just sort

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<v Speaker 7>of playing Devil's advocate here. One thing I sometimes hear

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<v Speaker 7>from people, especially here in Florida, is that the science

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<v Speaker 7>is always changing, that it's not settled, and that we

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<v Speaker 7>really don't know for sure that climate change is human cause.

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<v Speaker 7>So how am I supposed to respond to that kind

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<v Speaker 7>of comment?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's settled, amazing. I remember being four years old.

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<v Speaker 1>But one kid says, is so. The other kid says,

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<v Speaker 1>is not? Is not as too?

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<v Speaker 2>Is not? As to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Climate deny or sorry, science is so settled, it's settled

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<v Speaker 1>on top is settled.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly, ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Percent of the world scientists agree, if not one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent with or how about ninety nine point nine with

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<v Speaker 1>a less than point one percent trace percentage of scientists

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<v Speaker 1>who are not on board it's just weird. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>in science, you seldom get ninety percent agreement on anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, right, gravitational constant.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't even probably don't come out with that many

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<v Speaker 1>significant digits come on you guys. So and it's all,

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<v Speaker 1>as I say, all this doubt has been introduced by

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<v Speaker 1>conservative media. And a question I have for conservative me is.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you doing this? Why are you ignoring the facts?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>And just seeing well they're doing it for the money.

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<v Speaker 1>What money we're all going to if you keep this up.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I say to Fox News and all the

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<v Speaker 1>news Maxis and all these other guys is just cut

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<v Speaker 1>it out, just stop it.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen you talk, we've climate denis as well. Have

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<v Speaker 4>you ever managed to well, let's call them climate contrarians.

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<v Speaker 4>You have you ever mentioned actually ten any of them

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<v Speaker 4>mound the tool have any of a comeback to you

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<v Speaker 4>and said, oh, I've reflected the way he said, Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes you know, I tell everybody, somebody's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to change his mind her mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Just hearing it once.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is time I think to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>we in the States, we have several, of course nutty

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<v Speaker 1>climate deniers, but I bet each of these two guys

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand dollars that the decade twenty ten twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>would be the hottest on record, and they wouldn't take

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<v Speaker 1>the bet.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was wow, and so they wouldn't. They won't

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<v Speaker 2>take the bet. They know better now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the troubling thing. They're just hoping it's

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<v Speaker 1>not true. But hope's not a plan, people.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it is not a plan. I mean, that was

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<v Speaker 4>the warmest decade on record. Each year is getting harder

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<v Speaker 4>and harder.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>You often hear this, You hear this fantastic conspiracy fod

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<v Speaker 4>scientists are in.

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<v Speaker 2>Scientists or in the conspiracy? Have you hung out with

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<v Speaker 2>these guys?

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<v Speaker 4>You can't agree with anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I agree on anything, and I would hope one

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<v Speaker 1>of them was rich.

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<v Speaker 4>If I knew, if I had for proof actually this

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<v Speaker 4>was not real, I would be singing it from the

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<v Speaker 4>actual top of the buildings. I would be out there screaming.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd be getting loads of money, maybe a Nobel, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>even a Netflix show bill. You never know, right, you

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<v Speaker 4>never know, but you would be so famous for proving

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<v Speaker 4>it wrong. And I'd love it to be proved wrong. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>you'd get a Nobel Prize if you proved it it happened. No,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just sadly it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are fewer of them than the battle bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, there's still too many.

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<v Speaker 4>And look, you can't change someone's mind overnight. But that

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<v Speaker 4>first thing that Bill said is so important. Over ninety

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<v Speaker 4>nine percent of scientists agree that the climate crisis is

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<v Speaker 4>human caused, but only twenty five percent of Americans believe

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<v Speaker 4>that there's a scientific consensus on climate change. The bottom

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<v Speaker 4>line is, the carbon pollution from fossil fuels that we're

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<v Speaker 4>putting into the atmosphere is causing the planet to overheat dangerously.

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<v Speaker 4>That science is ironclad.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I feel like it's so important to lay it

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<v Speaker 7>out there like that. Now, this next question is about

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<v Speaker 7>how close we are from all of humanity falling apart.

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<v Speaker 7>I saw a headline that said we only have ten

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<v Speaker 7>to fifteen years to really stop global warming. But something

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<v Speaker 7>I hear from my friends is that it feels like

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<v Speaker 7>we've been seeing these headlines for years. So first, please

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<v Speaker 7>tell me we have more time, And also, why does

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<v Speaker 7>it like we've been hearing these headlines for so long?

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<v Speaker 1>The latest study that I'm familiar with is Michael Mann.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Michaelman the hockey Stick graph, The lead author. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>his latest book is This Fragile Moment, and he, based

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<v Speaker 1>on his latest modeling, points out there's almost certainly not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a tipping point.

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<v Speaker 4>Just to pause for a second, the hockey stick curve

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<v Speaker 4>is a really important piece of climate change science. Basically,

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<v Speaker 4>the idea is that there was a warm pier during

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<v Speaker 4>the medieval age, and then the Earth cooled down a little,

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<v Speaker 4>and now, thanks to all the carbon we're pumping into

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<v Speaker 4>the atmosphere, we're on the up and up and up.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks like a hockey stick. The thinking is there's

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<v Speaker 4>not necessarily a tipping point, but rather the idea is

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<v Speaker 4>that the Earth will just get hotter and hotter until

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<v Speaker 4>it's totally out of control. Well Bill says it better. Instead,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to get hotter and hotter and miserable or and

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<v Speaker 1>miserable for everybody, or and so it's not like there's

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<v Speaker 1>this moment where it clicks. You can make arguments about

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<v Speaker 1>one and a half degrees celsius that indeed could be

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<v Speaker 1>six years, but it's just if you go beyond, when

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<v Speaker 1>we go beyond one and a half, It'll just lower

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<v Speaker 1>the quality of life for more and more people. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like there's a light switch and everybody dies. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just going to get worse and worse. Which is let's

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<v Speaker 1>get to work people, doesn't mean let's relax. It means

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to work. In a sense, the situation is

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<v Speaker 1>more desperate than ever. In another sense, we have all

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<v Speaker 1>the time we'd ever need. It just depends how bad

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<v Speaker 1>you want things to get for how many people.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, this kind of mentality is one of the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest obstacles standing in that way this whole We've got

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<v Speaker 4>five years to turn things around. It's honestly, really unhelpful

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<v Speaker 4>for everyone. There's a risk of making people feel like

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<v Speaker 4>we don't have to act now, and if we miss

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<v Speaker 4>that target, is it really all over? It also makes

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<v Speaker 4>people feel like five years from now there'll be some

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<v Speaker 4>gigantic tipping point, but as Bill mentioned, it might not

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<v Speaker 4>play out that way, and when it doesn't, it could

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<v Speaker 4>erode trust in professionals and experts. All right, next one, Amber.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, we couldn't do this episode without bringing up the

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<v Speaker 7>cowburps and the cow farts. Are cowburps really that bad.

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<v Speaker 7>What are the greenhouse gases we need to be worried about?

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<v Speaker 7>Is it just carbon dioxide? And how about is methane?

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<v Speaker 7>Can you just kind of walk me through all of

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<v Speaker 7>the greenhouse gases.

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<v Speaker 1>Methane is a much much stronger greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason everybody talks about carbonoxide is it's so there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much of it that overall it is still the

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<v Speaker 1>most significant one. But and rather, both carbon dioxide and

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<v Speaker 1>methane methane are carbon. The carbon with two oxygen's carbon

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<v Speaker 1>with four hydrogen. They're both carbon. That's why people talk

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<v Speaker 1>about carbon capture, carbonness, carbon net, carbon reduction is because

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<v Speaker 1>both of those greenhouse gases have carbon at the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the molecule.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think people realize that methane is eighty times

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<v Speaker 4>more heat absorbing a carbon dioxide. So for you know,

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<v Speaker 4>at least for twenty years or so, it's a and

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<v Speaker 4>it breaks down and then its.

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<v Speaker 1>Carbon dioxide with ultrabiolet light from the sun. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>just these got you, guys. These are huge problems.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, if that sounds a little complicated to you, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to break down bills breakdown of this issue.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>Molecule for molecule methane is so much worse for them

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<v Speaker 4>farm than carbon. Dark side oil gas and coal mining

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<v Speaker 4>all produce as shitloads of me fane gas and a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of it comes from leaks. But as we know,

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<v Speaker 4>those farting belch and cows are also at fault. Farming

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<v Speaker 4>is thought to be one of the largest sources of

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<v Speaker 4>me fane gas getting into the atmosphere. The good news

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<v Speaker 4>is we can get me fane levels down and fast

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<v Speaker 4>if we stop using fossil fuels, we can turn off

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<v Speaker 4>a massive tap of mefane. What the fucking talking about?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, Bill and Chris, let's talk about the new technologies.

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<v Speaker 7>This is everything from the vitamins food composter I keep

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<v Speaker 7>seeing on my Instagram ads to the giant machines that

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<v Speaker 7>are supposed to suck CO two out of the air.

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<v Speaker 7>Are the machines going to save us?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>This would be the idea that we would manage the

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<v Speaker 1>climate of the planet. Top down technocrats would think deep

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts and change the atmosphere, change something radically in the

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<v Speaker 1>top down fashion. And the famous thing that people talk

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<v Speaker 1>about is putting a compound of sulfur very very high

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<v Speaker 1>in the atmosphere, stratosphere sulfur which would reflect which is yellow,

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<v Speaker 1>which would reflect sunlight back into space. And this nominally

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<v Speaker 1>would work, they say. And furthermore, it would produce diffuse

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<v Speaker 1>light like a cloudy day, and farm plants, agricultural crops

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<v Speaker 1>respond better to diffuse light than direct light. Really, okay, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to be in charge of that? Who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to put these airplanes in the stratosphere spewing sulfur compounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's going to control that?

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to put it up over the UK, over

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<v Speaker 1>Africa and it's going.

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<v Speaker 2>To blend and blow around the world. WHOA Everybody's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be affected? Is that good or bad?

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<v Speaker 1>But with that in mind, I encourage everybody, voters of

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<v Speaker 1>all ages, to think of things of the world, a

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<v Speaker 1>humankind's relationship to Earth differently than we have thought about

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<v Speaker 1>it for centuries. And that is we are in charge. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this was not a job that we went applying for.

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<v Speaker 1>But humans, the human race is so big, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many of us breathing and burning this atmosphere so aggressively

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<v Speaker 1>that we are changing the climate of an entire planet.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody you can argue We didn't mean to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're doing it, so.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to.

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<v Speaker 1>So when it comes to geo engineering, it is nominally

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<v Speaker 1>a nutty idea to think that you could spew enough

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in the atmosphere to control the climate of a planet.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you reflect all the sunlight back into space,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't that screw things up? Wouldn't that be a bad

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<v Speaker 1>just inherent there's less heat, less sunlight. Just intuitively, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like a bad idea, but it may get people argue,

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<v Speaker 1>it may get to a situation that's all we got

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<v Speaker 1>that aside.

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<v Speaker 2>Do not count on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Look at all that we have done to the

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<v Speaker 1>climate by accident.

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<v Speaker 2>And then who you're going to put in charge Vladimir.

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<v Speaker 1>Putin, Like, who's going to be in charge of doing

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<v Speaker 1>sulfur into the atmosphere?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, you guys, geoengineering is not going to solve a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, this idea that nature is separate

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<v Speaker 1>from us is that's an old idea.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>When we go camping in the wilderness, we're going just

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<v Speaker 1>to a different part of the planet that we control.

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<v Speaker 4>I totally agree with Bill that these big pie in

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<v Speaker 4>the sky geoengineering ideas are kind of scary and likely

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<v Speaker 4>to introduce all sorts of problems we can't predict, not

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<v Speaker 4>to mention, they raise a lot of forny political questions.

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<v Speaker 4>That said, I do want to touch on what Amber

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<v Speaker 4>said about the giant machines that suck carbon dioxide out

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<v Speaker 4>of the atmosphere. These machines, along with other natural methods

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<v Speaker 4>of capturing carbon, like in coastal restoration projects, might actually

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<v Speaker 4>save us at this point. We need to slash our

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<v Speaker 4>emissions while also removing a carbon we've already pumped into

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<v Speaker 4>the atmosphere, and there are a lot of cool innovators

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<v Speaker 4>working on projects that do just this. That's what we

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<v Speaker 4>mean when we say carbon capture.

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<v Speaker 3>We're fucking the future. We're a fucking the future.

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<v Speaker 4>Bill sees this has all hands on deck situation. He

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<v Speaker 4>says we need to prioritize free things.

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<v Speaker 1>Three big ideas clean water, renewably produce electricity, and access

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<v Speaker 1>to the internet for everybody in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>When you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Access to the internet, you can have education. When you

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<v Speaker 1>have education, you can raise the standard of living of

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<v Speaker 1>women and girls. When we raise the stand of living

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<v Speaker 1>of women and girls, everybody is better off easy to say,

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<v Speaker 1>hard to do.

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<v Speaker 4>You might wonder what the hell has to do with

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<v Speaker 4>the climate crisis, but it actually has everything to do

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<v Speaker 4>with it. We talked about this in the Sabrina Elber episode,

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<v Speaker 4>but for gist of it is, prioritizing women and girls

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<v Speaker 4>has an outsize impact on our world and for the better.

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<v Speaker 2>I would invest in electricity transmission. Someone got to do.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say invest, I'm not just talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>engineering and the towers and the lines and stuff, but

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<v Speaker 1>the legal right of ways and the deals made and

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<v Speaker 1>the financing has all got to be figured out. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I am very interested. Yes, let's continue to have

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<v Speaker 1>some people messing around with making nuclear fission less scary

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<v Speaker 1>where the public will accept it in a way they

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<v Speaker 1>won't accept it right now. But also I want people

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<v Speaker 1>us it to invest. I'm not joking you guys to

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<v Speaker 1>invest in nuclear fusion. There's so many organizations universities working

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<v Speaker 1>on this right now.

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<v Speaker 4>This isn't an episode of Bill n I, the Science Guy.

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<v Speaker 4>But you watched it in middle school when you had

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<v Speaker 4>a substitute teacher in for the day, So we're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to get too vol into a nucleifusion. But what

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<v Speaker 4>you should know about nucleiffusion is that if we can

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<v Speaker 4>do it, we would create unlimited energy without fossil fuels.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the next less than twenty years somebody's going

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<v Speaker 1>to figure this out, because we can now control magnetic

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<v Speaker 1>fields with much faster computers than we ever had in

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<v Speaker 1>previous decades. And controlling a magnetic field would enable, hypothetically,

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<v Speaker 1>theoretically enable you to control the.

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<v Speaker 2>Plasma. This is a gas where all.

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<v Speaker 1>The electrons are off on their own, they're not associated

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<v Speaker 1>with any atoms. So anyway that's in the background. But

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<v Speaker 1>clean water, noble electra and so let's get swind and

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<v Speaker 1>solar electrical storage, less efficient, heavier, cheaper batteries in the

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<v Speaker 1>basements of big buildings that don't rely on lithium and.

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<v Speaker 2>Get or done.

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<v Speaker 1>Then also world peace would be good because all the

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<v Speaker 1>wars that are going on, you're just inefficient people just

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<v Speaker 1>through in the States, just around the expression supply chains,

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<v Speaker 1>your supply chain, and you disrupt everything and you it

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<v Speaker 1>has knock on effects worldwide.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this is all stuff we got to get done.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go, let's get her done.

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<v Speaker 4>And so that leads to very much to the last

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<v Speaker 4>bit about what can people do meaningfully to make action themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Become politically active in your community and advocate for climate change.

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<v Speaker 1>Vote for people who are going to address climate change.

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<v Speaker 1>And here in the US, if you're a third party candidate,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to say the most important election in my

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime was the year two thousand when in the US

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<v Speaker 1>George Bush became president, even though al Gore had more.

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<v Speaker 2>Votes popular votes.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an old system, very well intending founding fathers

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<v Speaker 1>that things out. It's outlived its usefulness, the system. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>It's important election ever in history is twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether or not you live in the US. Yes, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the most important election. You can hate the US

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, but the US is so influential globally,

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<v Speaker 1>It's most influential culture. And so this is it, people,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? Do you want to talk about turning points?

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<v Speaker 2>This is the point of turning.

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<v Speaker 4>Bill Nye, the science guy, the man is a legend

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<v Speaker 4>for a reason. I mean, he told so many of

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<v Speaker 4>us about science, but he's now teaching us about how

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<v Speaker 4>to teach others about the science of climate change. I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to bring back Maggie Beds discuss how we can

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<v Speaker 4>take action on Bill Nye's three Big Ideas?

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<v Speaker 3>What fuck can I do?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Maggie, Hey Chris Well, I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Know if I could follow Bill, but I will do

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<v Speaker 5>my best.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm surely he'll be pretty What of your golfers is wee? Maggie, Chris?

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<v Speaker 5>I was thinking about how Bill so effectively breaks down

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<v Speaker 5>complicated ideas into something easy and fun. So in that spirit,

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<v Speaker 5>our action this week is to lead with joy. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>the climate crisis is extremely serious, and so bringing in

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<v Speaker 5>a little humor to the conversation helps us reach people

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<v Speaker 5>and make complicated topics more easily digestible. So if you

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<v Speaker 5>would like to try to bring more humor and more

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<v Speaker 5>effective communication techniques into conversations about climate, there is a

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<v Speaker 5>great article that we will put in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 5>Check it out. But it all leads up to the

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<v Speaker 5>big takeaway here. Instead of focusing on the doom we

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<v Speaker 5>might experience, let's try to envision the better world we

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<v Speaker 5>could have. Let's all try to be.

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<v Speaker 4>More like Bill Gosh. I love that, Maggie, thanks so

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<v Speaker 4>much on the stay. And that's what the fuck you

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<v Speaker 4>can do for this week?

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<v Speaker 7>What fuck? Can I do.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh fuck, that's all for this episode. Next time, on

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<v Speaker 4>Fucking the Future, we talked to Glennis Humphrey, a fire

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<v Speaker 4>a cologist who wants us to use fire to prevent wildfires.

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<v Speaker 8>What we're seeing is different from the past.

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<v Speaker 5>We've seen basically.

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<v Speaker 8>A change in the intensities of fires, the frequencies of

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<v Speaker 8>fire that we haven't actually seen before.

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<v Speaker 5>When you see a change where.

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<v Speaker 8>Fires occurring where it didn't occur before, or it's occurring

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<v Speaker 8>at a much bigger scale than it did occur before,

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<v Speaker 8>I think that's what's alerting us that something is off.

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<v Speaker 8>That's a warning to say things are changing because it's

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<v Speaker 8>different from.

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<v Speaker 4>The past until then. I'm Chris Turney signing off from Sydney, Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for joining me and I'm Fucking the Future.

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