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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host Mark Kenyan. In this episode number two five,

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Speaker 1: Anton the show, Dan and I are preparing for the

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Speaker 1: white tail rut, chatting through our rut hunting plans and

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Speaker 1: sharing our best run hunting advice. Before we get rolling

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Speaker 1: today we are kind of doing our pre rut episode

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Speaker 1: because me and Dan aren't gonna talk again for two weeks,

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Speaker 1: so the next time that Dan and I are here together,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be kind of the heat of the rut.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to do an episode where it's just

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Speaker 1: me and Dan, we kind of feel you guys in

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Speaker 1: on what we've been up to lately, and then and

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Speaker 1: then talk through kind of what our game plan is

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Speaker 1: for the rut, what our tactics are gonna be during

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Speaker 1: the rut, what maybe our predictions are going to be

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Speaker 1: for that time frame. So hopefully me and Dan are

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Speaker 1: prepared for the rut, but then also you guys listening,

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Speaker 1: hopefully we can get you some info and some ideas

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Speaker 1: to have you ready for this late October early November

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Speaker 1: time frame that's coming up, which is you know, as

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Speaker 1: as you and I both know Dan and probably everyone listening,

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Speaker 1: we're we're entering kind of the the Holy Land time

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Speaker 1: of the year as a white tail hunter, like the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl is right ahead of us, and I'm chomping

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Speaker 1: at the bit. I'm guessing you are too. Oh yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: man uh, not a lot needs to be said. Really,

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Speaker 1: it's it's that time of year and you just start

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Speaker 1: getting ramped up. Yeah, that's prepare for the grind, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the grind is coming up, and I gotta tell you, man, um,

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Speaker 1: the grind because because usually this time frame, right the

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Speaker 1: first two weeks November, it's like it is a absolute

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Speaker 1: just because you're not sleeping much. It run around like crazy.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever experience something like that? Right, but it's

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Speaker 1: already carrots, right, and now you feel better? No, No, okay,

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Speaker 1: Um So, I haven't talked about this in the podcast yet,

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Speaker 1: So don't be funny. I won't. I've I've had poison

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Speaker 1: on my Yeah, I know where you're going. All the

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Speaker 1: And you know what's funny is I've had the same thing.

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Speaker 1: like I am. I'm a I'm a I'm a happy camper. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: go into a property and you're just like, where's the sign?

429
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: What's going on here? And obviously this year there's way

430
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 1: more coyotes on trail camera, um than there has been

431
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: in the past. One of the ladies the farmers horses

432
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: died and she didn't do anything with it. She's just

433
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 1: gonna let it sit there and basically melt into the earth.

434
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: But uh, coyotes got brought in by that and they've

435
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 1: been eating that horse for like a week now. There's

436
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: there's I got trail cameras all over the farm with coyotes,

437
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: and but I've had them in the past and it

438
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to affect the deer herd that much. But

439
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: we've had a combination of like almost like extremes. This year,

440
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: we had extreme drought in that part of the state,

441
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: we've had extreme water, and now recently over the past

442
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: week and a half, two weeks that waters resided. The

443
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: bottom is still muddy. And so I hunted Saturday night

444
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 1: at my main farm. I went into one of my

445
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: best stands because I had the fort like a really

446
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: good north uh northwest wind, and so I go in

447
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: and I'm I see two doughs. That's it. No sign.

448
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: Typically that area is just shredded, the walk in, no scrapes.

449
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,959
Speaker 1: So Sunday morning, I didn't even hunt. I got up

450
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: early and I went and checked all the trail cameras

451
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: and or a majority of them, and I put up

452
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: a couple more. And as I'm walking this like this

453
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: collective acres right and it's not all in one area,

454
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: but it's just and I'm not I'm not jumping into

455
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: betting areas. I'm you know, I'm doing it fairly un invasive.

456
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: And I think I counted three scrapes on that entire area,

457
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: and maybe two or three like like significant rubs in

458
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: that entire area. My trail cameras are showing the does

459
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: are there. My trail cameras are showing that there is

460
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 1: um two and three year olds there, but one within

461
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: the last week, there's been one mature buck on the

462
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 1: on that entire acreage and it's been I don't know,

463
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,479
Speaker 1: it's it's it's just a little concerning. I'm like, what

464
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: is going and on? The crops are still in as

465
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: far as the beans, I would say fifty in the area.

466
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: The crops are still in. UM And I don't even

467
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: know what to think anymore, just because you know, I

468
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: don't know if maybe I'm relying too much on my

469
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: trail camera data UM and there is you know, obviously,

470
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: as we all know, deer can walk around trail cameras.

471
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean they're not there, But the lack of sign

472
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 1: is something that just concerns me. Could it be anything

473
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: related to your cameras being set later than usual? If

474
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: I remember right, like, you had to put your cameras

475
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: into these fall locations later. So maybe just the fact

476
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 1: that you were in there messing around more recently. Could

477
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: that have anything to do with it? You know what,

478
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: I would say, potentially, But here's the issue with that,

479
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: not like no other deer are affected by it, you know,

480
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: I would hate to go into a I mean, if

481
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: I was to bump a deer on that farm, Let's

482
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: say it's a mature buck and he was maybe getting

483
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: close to daylight in the pasted, he would still show up.

484
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: It just would be maybe nocturnal, you know what I mean.

485
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: It's not like they just completely disappear. But the September

486
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: shift for me was huge this year. I mean, it

487
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: was like mid September as they all started turning hard

488
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: horn shift like just it was just like the trail

489
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: cameras shut off. Typically that's a drizzle out right, and

490
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: then there's a shift of new bucks back into the area.

491
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: But it's like the new bucks didn't come back into

492
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: the area this year. And I don't know if it

493
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: if it's because of maybe some trespassing issues on part

494
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: of the farm, the crops still being in, the huge

495
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: acorn harvest, the high water down from the river bottoms.

496
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: I mean, these are just ideas. I and my trail

497
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: camera tells me that deer are still there, it's just

498
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: not there. The mature bucks are gone. Does this is now?

499
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: Of course, it is like disconcerting. It's not what you

500
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: want to see. But do you have like serious concerns

501
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: about the rut or do you or do you feel that, yeah,

502
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: maybe they're not a camera yet, but being where you're at,

503
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: you never once sat out there during the rut, and

504
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: not like they're gonna cruise the runt that even if

505
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: they're not living in your farm now that they're gonna

506
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: be there come November, don't I don't. Don't get me wrong,

507
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: I've had some slow ruts, but I've always seen a

508
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: mature buck on from the tree stand or have had

509
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 1: an encounter with a mature buck on that farm. There's

510
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: just some years where it's better than others. But what

511
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: I will tell you is that every single year, somewhere

512
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: around October is when the sign just blows up on

513
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: the farm. And this is the first year and seven

514
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: years that I have not seen that interesting even with

515
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: high water in the past. I mean I remember hunting

516
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: some uh the bottoms being covered so much in the

517
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,479
Speaker 1: fall that they left the crops in because they couldn't

518
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: get them out the entire until the freeze came and

519
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: the water resided. But it was the crops were mold,

520
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: so the deer couldn't eat them. They were all ruined,

521
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: so basically they just like ran them over and then

522
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: plowed them back into the ground. But it's it's just weird,

523
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: like all the sign that typically blows up this time

524
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: of year is not there right now. Yeah, that's that's

525
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: definitely weird. So let's talk about the plan moving forward.

526
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: Then let's talk about what we're gonna do, and then

527
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: some of like our rut principles um that we're gonna

528
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: be keeping in mind, and then maybe other folks should too.

529
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: So given this, given your unique situation this year, talk

530
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: to me about is this changing your plans at all

531
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: for the rot vacation coming up? And when's that all?

532
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: When's that all happening? Right? So this I'm not sure

533
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: when this particular podcast is going to post this Thursday.

534
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: So okay, So so Friday night, Saturday morning, Saturday night,

535
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: in Sunday morning, I will be hunting on the main farm. Right.

536
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: The first thing I'm gonna do on Friday night is

537
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: I got a very rare wind kind of out of

538
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: the east that I'm going to go in and do

539
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: a running gun on um the back side of that

540
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: Gnarlie Charlie um supposed betting area, just because I got

541
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: a rare wind that's gonna allow me some really awesome access.

542
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: The water is low enough for me to walk through

543
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: the creek, and then from there Saturday, I'll probably hunt

544
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: that same set Saturday morning because i'll have another good

545
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: wind after that. Then after I get out of the stand,

546
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna be go around and check all the trail

547
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: cameras again and just see, just see what what there is.

548
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: Hopefully what I'm seeing is an uptick in mature buck activity.

549
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: Hopefully while I'm checking them, I see a lot more sign.

550
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: But you know, then then that makes everything easier if

551
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: it kind of just bounces back and the sign was late.

552
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: I had a really good conversation with a guy the

553
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: other day and he was talking about having similar years

554
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: and a lot of it, and you were you were

555
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: saying something about on your Michigan property you were having

556
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: rut like trail camera pictures right right. Well, we've discussed

557
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: on this podcast before that bell curve of breeding, and

558
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: there's a potential that maybe on your farm you you

559
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: have one of those first does to come into heat.

560
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: And that's why some of these deer on their feet

561
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: moving because there's one dough who's starting to come into

562
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: heat and she's seeing a lot. You know that that starts,

563
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: that starts something right, that gets all the all the

564
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: bucks on their feet. There's that sweet smell in the

565
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: timber and they start cruising a little bit. And then

566
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: for my property, you know, typically there's some action the

567
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: there's a couple of dos that may go into heat

568
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: the first week in November, but like that seven nine

569
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: time frame is when it starts really getting really good

570
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: on my farm. So maybe what we're getting at this

571
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: year on my farm is that there's nothing worth getting

572
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: interested about quite yet and it's just delayed because the

573
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: does are are not on schedule from previous years. Yeah,

574
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: and you know, also I gotta imagine on a farmer's

575
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: and now you haven't had this issue in the past,

576
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: but with that much ground, I mean, it's it's there's

577
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: a lot of ground to try to understand what's happening. Right,

578
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: So there might be a crap ton of action going

579
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: on in a corner that you just typically aren't at

580
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: or where your cameras aren't at right now, I mean,

581
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 1: what's the acorn crop? Like could that could a lot

582
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: of these bucks just be focused staining in the timber

583
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: right now and hammer and acorns or something like that. Yeah,

584
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: and and that's a good point. However, in previous years,

585
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say two thousand and I don't know if

586
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: it was two thousand and fifteen or sixteen, I can't remember,

587
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: or fourteen. One of those years was another huge acorn crop,

588
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: but the sign was still there. And when you have

589
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: a big acorn crop, all my trail camera pictures in

590
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: the timber were blowing up right, they would make it

591
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: to the field edge, but not not during daylight. It

592
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: would be like the middle of the night. But my

593
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: pinch points, my travel corridors, my staging area, trail cameras

594
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: were all active. Yeah. Um. Back to your earlier point

595
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: about the bell curve related to you know, breeding, sometimes

596
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some that pop early. Um, and what's

597
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: going on on the Holy Field property. I my, it's

598
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: definitely possible. It's something that that could have happened here.

599
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: My guess is that it's not the case in this

600
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: specific instance because this huge bumping activity that I've seen

601
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: here I think is directly correlated to this cold front

602
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: that we've had. This cold spell that we've had here,

603
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: we've had significantly lower than average temperature since oh, I

604
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: don't know what the date was, like, um through you know,

605
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: a day ago, it's been way colder than usual. So

606
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: my guess is that that is part of the reason

607
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: why so much was going on. I don't know about you,

608
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: but if you look at just the the internet or

609
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: like the kind of hunting community out there and the

610
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: bucks that have been getting killed over the last like

611
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: seven a ten days, this is the best mid October success, right.

612
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: I think that I can see anecdote. I can't quantify it,

613
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: but just based off of like stories and pictures and stuff,

614
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: I can't remember better mid October than this one. Would

615
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: you have you seen the same thing? I had a

616
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: conversation with the guy about this the other day, and yes,

617
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: I would say by selection, right, we obviously follow more hunters,

618
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: we follow more uh social media accounts that have to

619
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: do with hunting. But here's what I want to know

620
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: is where were these deer killed? Were these killed over

621
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: food plots, were they killed in the timber? Where they

622
00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: killed on private farms? Like? Does does that direct success,

623
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: like I guess, relate to the rest of the hunting community,

624
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: or is that we are only seeing a certain portion

625
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: of what is actually being harvested and the hunter success

626
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: because these guys are have the ability to hunt more

627
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: because they may be quote unquote in the industry, or

628
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: they have you know, private property with you know, highly

629
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: managed food plots, and that's the success that we're seeing.

630
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? I don't know the point you're

631
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: getting it though, are you are you? Are you saying

632
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: that you think that it has been that it hasn't

633
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,239
Speaker 1: been a better mid October? I'm not saying just like

634
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: you said, we can't really quantify that because I'll tell

635
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: you from my experience, even though it's been colder than

636
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: average temperatures, I have not seen an increase in dear

637
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: movement because of this cold spell. You personally like your

638
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: own set and stuff exactly. Yes, yeah, well I from

639
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: based off what Instagram and social media is telling us, Yeah,

640
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: I feel it's more people are posting pictures of their

641
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: of their success, their bigger deer. But I'm curious to

642
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: know if you were to have a secondary statistic behind it.

643
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: Are these bucks being harvested on private ground that have

644
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: access to uh, you know, managed food plots. Are they

645
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: managed for big deer who? Like? What's that secondary statistic?

646
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: Because I don't get too excited about, you know, a

647
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: whole bunch of people posting pictures because there's you know,

648
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: there's millions of hunters out there right now. And I see,

649
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: even if you see three hundred success successful pictures a day,

650
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: that's still a very small percentage of what is actually

651
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: out there, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, um yeah,

652
00:34:54,400 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: um yeah, Okay, dumbass, I'm just trying to figure out. So,

653
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: so are you insinuating that you think that the higher

654
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: rate of success has only been happening for people that

655
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: have managed properties, whereas that like what you're theorizing or wondering. Um,

656
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm theorizing now. I've seen I've seen some people, you know,

657
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: I've seen some uh, I know, some people who have

658
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: harvested some deer in public lane already. That's great, But

659
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: I feel like a majority of these big deer that

660
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: are being harvested are on private farms with food plots.

661
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: Interesting observation. I can't argue it, although I've I've certainly seen,

662
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: I guess from my I have I have, you know,

663
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: I can look at Instagram picture. All I know is

664
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: is a guy if you shot a buck with a

665
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: muzzleloader or a or a bow. I don't know anything

666
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: else about the picture, right, So that's just a random thought. Yeah,

667
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: Well it's an interesting observation. And I can tell you

668
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: either way, wherever these people are are killing the deer,

669
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: people have been killing a lot of dear. Um, it's

670
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: been a pretty good October so far in my hope.

671
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: Or what I wonder though, is how is this going

672
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: to impact the rest of the month in November? Um?

673
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: Are we gonna have Is that going to keep on rolling? Like,

674
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: are we gonna have a great late October right into

675
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: the early November time period? Or things going to slow

676
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: down again? Um? And where I was kind of getting

677
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: at with all this was that And I'm not saying

678
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: I believe this. Um, I generally do not believe in this.

679
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: But there are these moon related rut predictions, um that

680
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: this year calls for an earlier running peak than usual,

681
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: at least as far as activity. So if you look

682
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: at them, the Charles Elsheimer, the late Charles Elsheimer and

683
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: Wayne Laroche predictions, Um, they follow this this uh what

684
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: is it the second full moon after the autumn equinox

685
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: or something like that they called the running moon. Typically

686
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: they claim that's what kind of starts to cue some

687
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: of this more intense writting activity. Um, if you follow

688
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: those predictions, October is the rutting moon, So they were

689
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: calling for things to start ramping up towards they and

690
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: then like seeking and chasing kind of starting around and

691
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: and going through the seven. So basically they're calling for

692
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: the best writting activity this year to be, you know,

693
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 1: that the last week and a half of October into

694
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: the first couple of days in November, and then you

695
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: get into that lockdown sooner. While traditionally most of us

696
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: would say that usually we're seeing things a little bit

697
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: later than that, that first two weeks of November traditionally

698
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: being the peak of activity. Um, So, I don't know,

699
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it was kind of just interesting to me

700
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: that they're calling for a little bit earlier, at least

701
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: this one theory calling for a little bit earlier rutting

702
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: action and not saying we're seeing rutting action yet, but

703
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: we are seeing at least anecdotally a lot of activity

704
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: the last you know, seven days or so leading up

705
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: to this time and period. I'm not making any kind

706
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: of connections to that, and just that was an interesting

707
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: thing I've been seeing. UM also Mark drewy Um and

708
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: the Drew is another couple of folks who pay attention

709
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: to a lot of these things. They always point to

710
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: the days around the full moon in general being particularly

711
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: good days, and especially if that sinks up with the

712
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: general rut time period. UM. Mark always talks about the

713
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: three evenings leading up to the full moon and the

714
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: three mornings after the full moon traditionally can be a

715
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: little bit better. UM. So that full moon is, like

716
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: I said, which will be, you know, the day before

717
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: this podcast comes out. So if you're listening to this on,

718
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: I'd be curious, did you have a couple of good

719
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: nights up to this and could the next few mornings

720
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: be especially good? I don't know. Um, I think all

721
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: this moon stuff is probably overhyped. Um. I'm always more

722
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: interested in the date of the calendar and the temperatures. UM,

723
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: but it is. It is always interesting. Just I like

724
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: to keep tabs on it and just kind of watch

725
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: what's going on. And UM, I hope though, I hope

726
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: that the rut moon thing is right this year because

727
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm actually doing my one or my my one like

728
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: late October, well not even my one, rut ish out

729
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: of state trip is coming up during this time period.

730
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm leaving for Nebraska tomorrow, UM to hunt these last

731
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: like four or five days of October. So I'm hoping

732
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: that there's gonna be some running, some early writting activity

733
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: because I had worked out really nice. Um, I'm not

734
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: really expecting it, but I would not complain at all. Um,

735
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: Me and Andy, Me and Andy Mayor heading to uh

736
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: central Nebraska tomorrow for a really quick hunt. We're gonna

737
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: leave in the afternoon, drive all night, hopefully get there

738
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: by the morning. So the morning of this podcast goes

739
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: out Thursday morning. Hopefully we'll be arriving by then so

740
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: we have time to glass in the morning, do a

741
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: little scouting midday, get spots set up to hunt that evening,

742
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: and then when we all hunt Thursday night, Friday, Saturday,

743
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: Sunday and Monday more earning and then if turnound and

744
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: drive right back home. Um, it's gonna be a quick trip.

745
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: But um, but I'm kind of excited about it. We

746
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: got um, we got access to us sweet looking the

747
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: river bottom property that Andy got us permission through kind

748
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: of a blind phone call just by chance. And um,

749
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: it's like eight miles of river bottom with lots of

750
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: good cover. Some irrigated fields could be pretty sweet. Um.

751
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: So we'll have some stories to come on that next week.

752
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: But that's what I have come in my immediate future, Dan. Um.

753
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: So when you're out there trying to figure things in

754
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: the uh in the Iowa holy land that has gone quiet,

755
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: I'll be trying to figure out a brand new property

756
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: that me neither me or and he's ever seen before

757
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: in person. Um. So we're just looking at maps and

758
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: taking some of our previous knowledge from hunting kind of

759
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: similar situations like this out west. You know, there's kind

760
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: of hills on the outside and these river bottoms with

761
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of cover that the white tails are in. Um.

762
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be very much kind of learned as

763
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: we go, right right, Well, I'll tell you what. And

764
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: that's one thing, you know, backstepping just a little bit

765
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: to this, to these averages. Everybody looks at right, everybody

766
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: wants an exact date that they want to take off vacation. Well,

767
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: that's the law of averages, right that q d m

768
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: A puts out all that data about you know, here's

769
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: peak breeding, here's peak scrapes, here's peak rubs and all

770
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: this data, right, but that doesn't directly relate on the

771
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: micro level to your specific farm. Right. So if you

772
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: don't run trail cameras, if you don't scout, you don't

773
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: go out looking for sign beforehand, yeah, you're probably better

774
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: off doing the law of averages and hunting let's say

775
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: somewhere around you know, leading up to peak breeding. But

776
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that the does on your property are

777
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: part of that peak, Right. They could be before and

778
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: they could be after that, and you could miss it,

779
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: you could nail it, you know what I mean. There's

780
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: so much variability. I mean, both of us. If you

781
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: go back and look at our the last five years

782
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: or whatever that we've been doing this podcast, and you

783
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: listen to our different rut experiences, you know, every single year,

784
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: they're different every single time of year when it hits

785
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: as different. I mean, the rut on any given ear

786
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: from my experience, is in a little it's can fits

787
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: and bursts. There'll be a pop of great activity and

788
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: then it'll die down, and then all of a sudden

789
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: there's some great activity and then it dies down. And

790
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: you can never, at least not frequently predict exactly when

791
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: that's going to happen or exactly where that's going to happen. Um,

792
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: so much variability, and you could be I could be

793
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: at one side of the property and you could be

794
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: on the other side of the property, and we might

795
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: have a completely different perspective on like how the ruts coming.

796
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: You might say, oh, there's nothing going on. The ruts

797
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: gonna be late this year, and I might say, no,

798
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: it's been intent, it's been insane, it's happening right now,

799
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: And that could be a quarter mile difference, you know,

800
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: absolute um. And here's one thing though we all need

801
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: to remember, all right, we should remember. But it's since

802
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: I've changed my hunting style, I've seen less, dear and

803
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: what I would call less of an observed rut. And

804
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: the reason being is because I'm not hunting in places

805
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: where I can see along ways. So if you're a

806
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: field edge hunter or you're hunting over big food plots,

807
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: then you might walk away going, oh man, they were

808
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: chasing tonight. But if you're a pinch point hunter, and

809
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if that pinch point you can't see

810
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: where you're hunting in a thick betting area downwind of

811
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: a thick betting area and you can't see a long ways,

812
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna see less of an observed h rut.

813
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: But like for me, I'm not interested in seeing chasing

814
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: unless it's coming right by my stand. I want to

815
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: be in the right spot and get the right deer

816
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: to walk by, not see, you know, dear chasing. Um,

817
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: you know in this corn field a long ways away,

818
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: because if I do see that, I'm getting down. I'm

819
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: gonna move my tree stand over there. Yeah, I hear you.

820
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: Before we go any further though, let's take a quick

821
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: break to thank our friends over at White Tailed Properties

822
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: and Spencer new Hearth will take it from here. This week.

823
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: With White Tailed Properties, we are joined by Ben Harsheine,

824
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: a land specialist out of Iowa, and Ben is going

825
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: to be talking to us about strategies for killing a

826
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: mid october buck. I think there's a number of things.

827
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: One that you don't have any control over is the weather,

828
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: but you do have control of when you hunt it.

829
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: Following these cold weather fronts. Uh certainly get big deer

830
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: on their feet earlier. Um. I think that you have

831
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: the key in on food sources still, so if you

832
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: can plan ahead and get some food sources on your

833
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: property that you're hunting ahead of time to anticipate um

834
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: movement here in October. I mean, these deer right now

835
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: are eating as much as they can to get ramped

836
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: up for the rut, to get ramped up for the winter. UM.

837
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: The cold weather gets them on their feet earlier, they're

838
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: gonna be on their feet heading to food sources, whether

839
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: that's a food plot you planted, acorns, crop fields. Killing

840
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: mature buck in October is going to rely on on

841
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: chasing that weather and then get in front of them

842
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: in the evening hunts going to food. Uh, sometimes you

843
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: can get into deeper cover. I think it's a little

844
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: bit dangerous, but I still would would go for it

845
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: if if you feel comfortable, scout, use your cameras, try

846
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: to find where they're staying, and then get deeper into uh,

847
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: into that cover where you think maybe he's betten. If

848
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: you'd like to learn more and to see the properties

849
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: that Ben currently has listed for sale, visit whitetail properties

850
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: dot com. Backslash hardshine that's h A R S H

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Speaker 1: y n E. Let's take that step further. Let's uh,

852
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: that's a good kind of rut thought. Let's do like

853
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: rapid fire rut rules or rut tips here for the

854
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: last like ten minutes or cell that we have fifteen

855
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: minutes or cell. Let's just go back and forth with

856
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: like quick things that we ink that that you and

857
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: I are gonna be thinking about during the route, that

858
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: we'd recommend um that are going to be like part

859
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: of our core mindset in the next you know, three weeks,

860
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: because the next three weeks are kind of like you know,

861
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: as I alluded to at the beginning, this is this

862
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: is it for a lot of us. This is like

863
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: the shakra alt of the deer hunting season. We've been

864
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: looking forward to this entire year. Gonna get it done hopefully.

865
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna say my first rut piece of

866
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: advice is to not get too caught up in all

867
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: like the crazy ideas and tactics and always stay simple

868
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: when it comes to the right or at least try

869
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: to come back to the basics. By this, I mean

870
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: when you're confused or uncertain about what to do during

871
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks in November, the last couple

872
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: laze of October, always think back to these two principles.

873
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: Dough betting areas or pinch points. So if you can

874
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: be thinking about those two things whenever you're trying to

875
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: choose between this tree standard that or this property or

876
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 1: that property, if you can be around one of those

877
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: two things, you're generally gonna be in the right type

878
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: of place for the rut. So deal betting areas, of course,

879
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: are some of the main places that bucks are gonna

880
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: be checking to try to find a female to breed,

881
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: So you can either be right in those betting years

882
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: or maybe just down wind of them, those are always

883
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: going to be a great place to start when it

884
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: comes to trying and fare out how to find a

885
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: buck during the rut. And then number two, a pinch

886
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: point or funnel. You know, these are some type of

887
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: habitat or terrain feature that just kind of pinches deer

888
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: into a smaller area, which just is going to produce

889
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: a higher rate of activity through there during the rut

890
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: because these bucks are moving from betting area to betting

891
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: area or betting to food source. Just again looking for

892
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: doughes that might be ready to breed. If you can

893
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: find something that funnels that activity past your stand, that's

894
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: another great spot. So just keep those two things in mind.

895
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: It's it's the simplest rut advice out there. It's told

896
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: that the jillion times like this is no secret. But

897
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: every year when I start getting like start overthinking things,

898
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: I just need to remind myself go back to the basics,

899
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: think about the basics, and and kind of filter all

900
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: your thoughts through that. So that's my first tip. Sounds good,

901
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: I would say mine is identify what you're looking for,

902
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm just gonna talk specifically about bucks

903
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: right now. Identify what you're looking for, um for a buck.

904
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: And if you're sitting in a location I know, I know,

905
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: and I know there's so many variables that go along

906
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: to this, because maybe you sit out on property that

907
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 1: only has one tree stand in it and you don't

908
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: you can't hunt anywhere else, or you haven't found anywhere

909
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: else to hunt. But don't waste your time. That's my

910
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: my first um piece of advice. If you're not seeing

911
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: what you want, move and go find something else. If

912
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: you have trail cameras, like for me, I rely on

913
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: my trail cameras to tell me a little bit of

914
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: the story. And if there's something that pops up, move in,

915
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: take a look, observe, and maybe that's just what you need,

916
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: right to make another move, to make another move and

917
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: play that game at chess, to try to put yourself

918
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: in the best possible position. However, if nothing shows up

919
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: two days in a row, and I know the rut

920
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: and I know anything could happen at any moment, and

921
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 1: you're not getting trail camera pictures or you're not seeing

922
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: any fresh sign, it might be time to move. Yeah,

923
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: especially you know, and I think everything we're saying here,

924
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: of course as a generalization, they'll be specifics that might different,

925
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: that might make what we've recommend be different. But like

926
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: you just said, there, Dan, if you have options, go

927
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: out and get after him. You know, if you're in

928
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: a situation where for some reason you're just all you

929
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: have as a tannic or property or something and you're

930
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: just kind of stuck there, well, then to what you

931
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: said a second ago, Dan, maybe if you do stick

932
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: it out long enough, yes, during the ruts, something can happen,

933
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: So maybe then it's just stick it out. But if

934
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: you have options, agree, because you know it just can

935
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: be here but not there, or they're not here and

936
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 1: you're never gonna know that unless you go check it out. UM.

937
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: So that brings me to my next tip, which is

938
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: kind of related to the sticking it out part of

939
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: things that during the rut. Other than a few of

940
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: the things we already said here, I don't think there's

941
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: anything more important than tree stand time, right. I mean,

942
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: this is that time of year when everything else goes

943
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: out the window because all the all the rules, all

944
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: the things we're saying could be completely null and void

945
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: because deer start doing crazy things at this time of year.

946
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: They might be moving in the middle of the day,

947
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: they might be moving somewhere they never usually do. UM.

948
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: You just need to be out there to sometimes be

949
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 1: the benefactor of kind of surprise good luck. So hunt

950
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: as much as you possibly can. If you can get

951
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: time off work, be out there. If you can hunt

952
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: all day, be out there, and on the midday thing.

953
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: I will say, for years and years and years I

954
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: was told hunt all day, chanal day, chanal day. And

955
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: I did it, and for quite a while I never

956
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: really saw anything come from it. UM. And it was

957
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: really tough to do, and it's not a lot of fun.

958
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's very exhausting, sometimes painful. UM. On your back

959
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: end or your knees, as Dan can attest to. But

960
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: it can pay off. It's not like it's always gonna

961
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: pay off, but it definitely can. I've had enough mature

962
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: bucking counters over the last decade or so that I've

963
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: been doing this during the middle of the day that

964
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: it's it's worth it. But only if you are like,

965
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: really really dedicated trying to kill mature Buck. If you're

966
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: just out there to have a good time and to

967
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: have a nice fun trip with your buddies, it might

968
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: not be worth it. You might have a better trip

969
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: if you take your mid day and go back to

970
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: the cabin or back to the trailer, back to the

971
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: hotel and enjoy your friends company or something. Um. But

972
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: if you are dead set on killing mature Buck, you

973
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: should be in the tree. Um. Last year, ever, most

974
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: of you know, I almost almost had my shot at

975
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: Holy Feel at eleven o'clock, and um, I'll be sitting

976
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 1: all day down this year. Yea, Mark, And I apologize

977
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna have to say this, but you might

978
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: have to edit this next part out because and I

979
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: think this is a us to the mental game, just

980
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: kind of piggybacking off what you're what you just said,

981
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: and that is don't be a bit And I'm sorry,

982
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: but I fall victim to that as well to where

983
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: you're you start, you start getting tired, you start you know,

984
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: all woe is me. I'm not seeing I'm not seeing bucks.

985
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: But you're not doing anything about it, right, So you

986
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: have to do something about it, and you have to move.

987
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: You have to um hunt hard, potentially all day. You

988
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: have to get up early. You can't. There's no shortcuts. Right.

989
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: If you want to execute a goal in the woods

990
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: and kill a big buck or a mature buck or

991
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: a target buck or whatever, and you're struggling. If you

992
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: start bitching, it's over and you you have to do

993
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: whatever it takes and I mean within the law to

994
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: to to a pumplished that goal. Right. If your goal is, hey, man,

995
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: I want to kill four year old this year, and

996
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: there's maybe one or two on in your entire county,

997
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 1: well guess what you gotta do. Man. You gotta be mobile,

998
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: and you got you got grind. And if you if

999
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: you start going no, this guy spooked me. Or if

1000
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: you're a public land hunter and you're like, oh this guy,

1001
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: this guy ruined my hunt, it screwed. Now I might

1002
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: as well go home. Shut up, dude, move find him again,

1003
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: locate him again, get back to the maps, get back

1004
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 1: to the scouting, get back to historical data, trow camera pictures,

1005
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: start over and get after him again. Right, you think

1006
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: the mountain lion bitches if he misses the opportunity or

1007
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: a bear or a predator in general. No, they go back,

1008
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: they regroup, and they go after him again. Keep on hunting. Yeah, man,

1009
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: I two thousand percent agree. I think that that maybe,

1010
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: more than anything we've talked about, that might be the

1011
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: very most important thing for hunting. The rut like it is,

1012
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: it is so much a mental thing. Can you can

1013
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: you deal with the diversity? Like guaranteed every rut I

1014
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: can guarantee all of you listening to this, or almost

1015
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: all of me, maybe one of you will go out

1016
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: the very first day and kill the biggest buck of

1017
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: your life and be done and say, oh, this rut

1018
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: was easy and it went great. All the rest of

1019
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: us are going to deal with some kind of adversity

1020
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: over the next three weeks. We're gonna miss a deer,

1021
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna wounded deer, We're going to spook a deer.

1022
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: We're going to have guys walk through a property. We

1023
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: have dogs run through a property whenever a trail cameras still.

1024
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: And we're gonna have our tires go flat. We're gonna

1025
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: have the baby gets sick and you have to go

1026
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: home and you miss half your vacation. You're gonna have

1027
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: a wife that's gonna be angry at you, and you

1028
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: have to go home early. You're gonna have something go

1029
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: wrong over the next three weeks, and you're gonna be

1030
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: faced with this decision. Are you gonna push through it?

1031
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: Are you going to embrace that adversity? Said? Okay, yeah,

1032
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: this thing happened. There's nothing I can do about Now.

1033
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: It's water on the bridge. Now, how do I rat

1034
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: to it? How do I take that? Move on from it,

1035
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: learn from it, figure out what the next best option is,

1036
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: Keep going, stay focused. So much of actually sitting in

1037
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: the tree stand is about can you stay in it

1038
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: during the whole day or whenever you're out there? Can

1039
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: you avoid looking at your phone? Can you not make

1040
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: this mistake I made? Can you stay focused out there

1041
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: for six hours at a time or twelve hours at

1042
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: a time. Can you, as you alluded to, Dan, can

1043
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: you wake up at three or four or whatever every morning,

1044
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: even though you're so tired after doing twelve days in

1045
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: a row, can you keep going? Um? And a if?

1046
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: And this all just depends on how dedicated what you

1047
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: want out of this. For some people just want to

1048
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: go out and have a good time. If you just

1049
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: want to go and have a good time and you're

1050
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: not as care you're not as worried about the end result,

1051
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: then then do it. We have a good time, don't

1052
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: stress as much about this stuff. But if but if

1053
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: you're really dedicated to getting that tag wrapped around a

1054
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: mature box antler and getting that meat in the freezer,

1055
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: then this kind of mindset I think is really important. Um.

1056
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: It's that mental strength. Mental strength as I think what

1057
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: the name of the game is over these next few weeks, um,

1058
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: and I know that I will just be coming back

1059
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: to I'm sure over the next few weeks, I'm gonna

1060
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: have moments where I'm like, oh, I do not want

1061
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: to do this, or I'm upset about this, or I'm

1062
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 1: stressed about this. My shingles are gonna come back. But

1063
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: you just have to. And that's the thing, dude, Like

1064
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,959
Speaker 1: check check the story out, you know, like you're gonna

1065
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: be talking to your kids someday or your grandkids someday,

1066
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: and you're gonna tell the story of the you know, hey, man,

1067
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: I shot this buck I call holy Field, been chasing

1068
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: for several years, and I did it after having the

1069
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 1: worst case of shingles I've ever had, the worst case

1070
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 1: of poison ivy I ever had. I mean, come on, kid,

1071
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: I had it on my genital still killing, I still

1072
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: killed this buck, and I grind it out and I

1073
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: did it. That's right. I can't wait to tell that

1074
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: story about it. I hope you get to tell it

1075
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: one of those camp fire things that you do. Yeah,

1076
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: when he when he when he gets to be eighteen

1077
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: years old and he's ready to hear those kinds of stories.

1078
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: Let me tell you a son. Um. Yeah, man, I

1079
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: think that is Um. That's some important stuff right there.

1080
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: Do we have time for another quick tip or do

1081
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: you need to run because I know you've got a

1082
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: quick turn around here. Yeah, dude, I gotta split, all right,

1083
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: So we will wrap this up. This is a quick episode,

1084
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: but hopefully a few ideas and a few updates that

1085
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: can that can help folks. As we head into this

1086
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: most exciting time of year. So good luck. I just

1087
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: want to say to all the listeners, dude, good luck.

1088
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: I there's no one more than me and Mark that

1089
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: want to see all you guys be successful, guys and

1090
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: gals be successful out there and and do it safe.

1091
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: Please yes, in the words of Dan nine fingers Johnson Wair,

1092
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: damn harness, and have a great time. And Dan, you too,

1093
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: good luck, Yes you too. But let's get back throughout

1094
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: this year. We are, but I think that we should.

1095
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: We should come back get on the podcast together in

1096
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: two weeks and both have stories of of knocking down

1097
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: a big bruiser all right, and that is going to

1098
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: do it for this episode. So thanks for sticking around

1099
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: for this quick rut preparation podcast. It's that most exciting

1100
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: time of year. So get out there in the woods.

1101
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: I hope you're gonna have some amazing hunts coming up.

1102
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: My fingers and toes are cross for you. And as

1103
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, I'm in Nebraska, or at least on

1104
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: our way to Nebraska right now. So me and my

1105
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: pale Andy Stefs the stories for you next week, which

1106
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: will hopefully be interesting too. So until then, the best

1107
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: of luck out there, shoots straight, have a great time,

1108
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: and until next time, stay wired to hunt.