Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty. Hi, y'all doing.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: We're about to talk a little bit about misinformation disinformation.
Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg was on Joe Rogan's Much Listen To podcast
Speaker 1: on Friday, said some things that should be giant news stories,
Speaker 1: but partially not because of the fires eating up a
Speaker 1: lot of time and space and newspapers and broadcast TV
Speaker 1: and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it's more about the media's hesitation
Speaker 4: to admit what is plainly true about censorship and the
Speaker 4: Biden administration in COVID.
Speaker 1: But for instance, on misinformation disinformation, this is a breaking
Speaker 1: story in the La Times right now. Investigators looking into
Speaker 1: electric towers possible eating fire origin site. That's the big
Speaker 1: fire in the Pasadena Altadeene area. Then you got the
Speaker 1: other fire, the bigger fire the Palisades area. They think
Speaker 1: the last story I read about it, and I think
Speaker 1: it was also in the La Times some fireworks from
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve had been smoldering and started that whole thing.
Speaker 1: There was an illegal arrested. Well, a bunch of people
Speaker 1: detained an illegal they saw who had a fire torch
Speaker 1: in his hand, like the way you light fires. But
Speaker 1: there's nobody's nailed down that he started any fires. I'm
Speaker 1: seeing lots of social media just blanket statements of illegals
Speaker 1: are going around starting fires in La. Well, there's no
Speaker 1: evidence that that any of these fires were started by
Speaker 1: illegal I'd be more than happy to jump on that
Speaker 1: story if it's nailed down, trust me, I'd love that story.
Speaker 2: But there's no evidence that that's actually happening.
Speaker 1: But if you're on social media for a big crowd,
Speaker 1: it's as if it's completely true and nailed That's the
Speaker 1: way information works.
Speaker 2: That's the way information works in the modern era.
Speaker 1: For I know that for a lot of people on Twitter,
Speaker 1: for instance, that story's done for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 1: Illegals started these fires, even though that's not what happened,
Speaker 1: at least not yet. So that's that's a difficult situation.
Speaker 1: Even if you're trying to do your best in social
Speaker 1: media and you know monitor what's true and what's not.
Speaker 1: You go further the other direction, which Zuckerberg's about to
Speaker 1: talk about with Joe Rogan on Friday, where you're putting
Speaker 1: out things you know to be true and the government's
Speaker 1: screaming at you and doesn't want you to do that.
Speaker 2: But let's let's start at the beginning here.
Speaker 1: Here's Mark Zuckerberg, guy runs Facebook on Joe Rogan on Friday.
Speaker 5: But it was really in the last ten years that
Speaker 5: people started pushing for like ideological base censorship. And I
Speaker 5: think it was two main events that really triggered this.
Speaker 5: Sixteen There was the election of President Trump, also coincided
Speaker 5: with basically Brexit in the EU and sort of the
Speaker 5: fragmentation of the EU. And then you know, in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty there was COVID, And I think that those were
Speaker 5: basically these two events were for the first time, we
Speaker 5: just placed, we just faced this massive, massive institutional pressure
Speaker 5: to basically start censoring content on ideological grounds.
Speaker 1: Institutional pressure to censor content. Well, where was that coming
Speaker 1: from and in what way? He talks more about it here.
Speaker 5: It was during the Biden administration when they were trying
Speaker 5: to roll out the vaccine program. And I'm generally like
Speaker 5: pretty pro rolling out vaccines. I think on balance the
Speaker 5: vaccines are more positive than negative. But I think that
Speaker 5: while they're trying to push that program, they also tried
Speaker 5: censor anyone who is basically arguing against it, and they
Speaker 5: pushed us super hard to take down things that were
Speaker 5: honestly were true, right, I mean, they basically pushed us
Speaker 5: and said, you know, anything that says that vaccines might
Speaker 5: have side effects you basically need to take down. And
Speaker 5: I was just like, well, we're not going to do that, Like,
Speaker 5: we're clearly not going to do that. I mean, that
Speaker 5: is kind of inarguably.
Speaker 1: We don't have the audio of this, but he says
Speaker 1: Biden administration officials used to call and scream at us,
Speaker 1: demanding that we remove COVID related content, even things that
Speaker 1: were facts or memes in humor. When we refused, we
Speaker 1: found ourselves under investigation by several agencies.
Speaker 4: Well, right, And I thought it was ironically kind of
Speaker 4: ridiculously charming that he said we faced incredible institutional pressure.
Speaker 4: The institution in question is not like the National Association
Speaker 4: of orthod Donnists. It's the executive branch of the federal
Speaker 4: government was calling him in, screaming at him and telling
Speaker 4: him what to print and what not to print. It
Speaker 4: sounds like censorship to me.
Speaker 1: Well especially, I mean when there is a clear penalty there.
Speaker 1: When we refused, we found ourselves under investigation by several agencies.
Speaker 4: Well right, yeah, As I said at the time when
Speaker 4: I was howling about this, whether it's investigations or regulations
Speaker 4: or lawsuits or just impediments, I mean, if a federal
Speaker 4: government decides to f with you, pardon me, f with you,
Speaker 4: they will they will make it impossible to do business
Speaker 4: through the tax code. Witness the conservative organizations during the
Speaker 4: Tea Party era or whatever. The Pea Party era is
Speaker 4: a completely different era. I apologize I'm as spoke, but yeah,
Speaker 4: it's and I was so bitterly disappointed when the Supreme Court,
Speaker 4: in I think it was Murthy versus Missouri, essentially struck
Speaker 4: down a lawsuit about this. Having gone back to refresh
Speaker 4: my memory about it, it's the sort of you didn't
Speaker 4: have standing to sue, assuming that past censorship would equal
Speaker 4: future censorship. So they weren't asking the Supreme Court. Hey,
Speaker 4: was that awful or not? It was at about a
Speaker 4: particular injunction. So I would love to have the Supreme
Speaker 4: Court hand down in whatever former, whatever pretext, the word
Speaker 4: that no, this sort of censorship by proxy or through
Speaker 4: the threat of action is a violation of.
Speaker 2: The First Amendment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, rockstar lawyer Randy Barnett, who's got a great book
Speaker 1: out right now, tweeted over the weekend the Biden administration
Speaker 1: pressure on Facebook should be big news and a huge scandal,
Speaker 1: big enough for Scotus to hear about it.
Speaker 2: But will it. He thinks it should be a Supreme
Speaker 2: Court case like you're just talking about. I think so too.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a big deal. The fact that it.
Speaker 1: Landed on Friday with very little coverage, again partially because
Speaker 1: of the fire obscuring everything like that is well, and
Speaker 1: I don't know, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 4: I think the fire is a pilot light compared to
Speaker 4: the utter you know, discussed that most of the media
Speaker 4: has with the idea of saying, you know what, all
Speaker 4: that stuff that we were one hundred percent for suppressing,
Speaker 4: like the the you know, the scientists who are advocating
Speaker 4: for the Great Barrington Declaration, for instance, who are pointing out, yeah,
Speaker 4: there are side effects, who are pointing out, no, the
Speaker 4: vaccine does not prevent transmission, who are pointing out we
Speaker 4: should open the schools who were saying that young healthy
Speaker 4: people had no need. Anybody who had natural immunity had
Speaker 4: no need to take the jab. All of those things
Speaker 4: are now unquestionably and unquestioned fact. But the media was
Speaker 4: complicit in silencing those people. So no, they're not going
Speaker 4: to turn around and say, gee, that censorship was awful.
Speaker 1: Without the fire, I think Fox would have made this
Speaker 1: a very big story over the weekend. But you're right,
Speaker 1: I don't think Meta Kress faced the Nation would have
Speaker 1: touched it at all, because if they can post the
Speaker 1: New York Times, maybe they would have been completely implicated
Speaker 1: in this sort of thing. One more clip from Rogan.
Speaker 1: I thought was interesting. You were just lying to us
Speaker 1: about this, that and the other thing, and now I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to believe you're one of the good guys, you're
Speaker 1: one of the straight shooters. Now, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: where that goes from there.
Speaker 4: I tell you what, with all due respect to our
Speaker 4: need to not prop up people we compete with, allegedly,
Speaker 4: that's a great question by Rogan, That's an incredibly uncomfortable question.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well that's been the pushback since last week when
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg first came out and all of a sudden, as
Speaker 1: a Bill Wright's first Amendment, guy, is okay, which one's.
Speaker 2: The real you?
Speaker 4: Or do you just yeah and fair enough? Although you know,
Speaker 4: my goal in this discussion is not whether I should
Speaker 4: like more Exegerber sure, not that sup has sailed. It's
Speaker 4: about the First Amendment in government censorship.
Speaker 1: That's horrifying that that could happen though at that level
Speaker 1: on things that were really important. Yes, are there side
Speaker 1: effects on the vaccine the government is forcing you to
Speaker 1: get or you.
Speaker 2: Lose your job, not allowed to say, what are you kidding? Mind?
Speaker 4: That included a hell of a lot of firefighters and
Speaker 4: soldiers and sailors and marines. So you young, healthy, primarily
Speaker 4: men who would not get the JAB, many of whom
Speaker 4: already had natural immunity.
Speaker 1: So you're employed by the government at some level, and
Speaker 1: the government's not allowing discussion on whether or not the
Speaker 1: vaccine has side effects, but you're being forced to take
Speaker 1: it to keep your job.
Speaker 2: That's exactly the sort of thing you don't.
Speaker 4: Want to in a free society, I would agree, And
Speaker 4: the technicalities of who can sue and who has standing
Speaker 4: and blah blah blah gets you know.
Speaker 2: I'll let the lawyers argue about that. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: agree with you completely.
Speaker 4: The Supreme Court has got to issue some sort of
Speaker 4: edict about this censorship by proxy.
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg did have the option, didn't he though, of going
Speaker 1: full profile and courage and with his I mean, especially
Speaker 1: then Facebook was bigger then than it is now in
Speaker 1: terms of people paying attention to it. If he had
Speaker 1: to come out and said, the Biden administration is really
Speaker 1: pressuring us to take down things that are true or
Speaker 1: at least possibly true.
Speaker 2: God doubt of it, a huge story. Yep, absolutely, I
Speaker 2: wish he had.
Speaker 1: I mean, that could have been one of those on
Speaker 1: a Sunday morning where they do the full five, where
Speaker 1: he goes on like face the nation, meet the press,
Speaker 1: by all the shows, and talks about how the Bedministry
Speaker 1: people are screaming me on the phone and threaten me,
Speaker 1: threatening me with investigations if I take down things that
Speaker 1: are true.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what a story that would have been.
Speaker 2: But he chose not to do that.
Speaker 4: He either lacked of moral courage or he made the
Speaker 4: decision as a businessman, what will be best for my company,
Speaker 4: and you've given him he decided it just shutting up
Speaker 4: would be the best.
Speaker 1: I think he's probably a weasel, but I am giving
Speaker 1: him a little benefit of the doubt, like in the
Speaker 1: midst of the pandemic, where things were crazy there for.
Speaker 4: A while, and uh, and in Silicon Valley there was
Speaker 4: such uniformity of progressive thought. I mean, you got people
Speaker 4: there who are still friggin masked. Pardon me, I get
Speaker 4: fired up over this stuff. We have a lot of
Speaker 4: new listeners. Generally, I can contain my mild obscenity is
Speaker 4: a little better than I am. But this stuff really really.
Speaker 2: Fires it is it dry January wearing on you?
Speaker 4: I'm starting to get a little twitchy. Yes, always been disappointing,
Speaker 4: and we've talked about this so many times. I don't
Speaker 4: feel nearly as good as i'd anticipated, having given up
Speaker 4: the booze.
Speaker 2: Kind of hoping it feel better. So this is just
Speaker 2: what I feel like. Hum. I'm still a sleepy half
Speaker 2: wit for like the first hour and a half of
Speaker 2: the day, and it's disappointing.
Speaker 1: I have a whole bunch of interesting nuggets that I
Speaker 1: captured over the weekend that are not the news of
Speaker 1: the day, but are all interesting, So I'm hoping to
Speaker 1: get to those this hour at some point. Excellent for instance,
Speaker 1: how big a deal is AI? Uh, something China's doing
Speaker 1: that's horrible. North Korean soldiers are dying like crazy in Ukraine.
Speaker 1: And something that Elon Musk says that if you're not
Speaker 1: doing this with your doctor recommendations, you're really making a
Speaker 1: mistake that I thought I'm going to employee in my life.
Speaker 2: A bunch of stuff on the way. Stay here, Satty.
Speaker 6: Austin's husband, Emmanuel, an orthopedic surgeon, has been named in
Speaker 6: a New York reco case involving federal insurance fraud. So here,
Speaker 6: he's a great surgeon. Even did Joy Behar's hoof replacement?
Speaker 2: Oh that's cold? What as that's shallice? What hoof for replacement?
Speaker 1: Do I take off my coat like a girl? We'll
Speaker 1: discuss this later. It became a topic at dinner last night. Wow, Wow,
Speaker 1: a couple of things to discuss. Just notes I took
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Somebody tweeted this out and Elon Musk tweeted,
Speaker 1: retweeted it true. If you're not double checking your doctor's
Speaker 1: diagnostics with an LM, that's a language learning model AI chatbot.
Speaker 1: If you're not double checking your doctor's diagnostics with an LM,
Speaker 1: you're being negligent in your health. I've never considered doing that,
Speaker 1: but maybe we all should in the future.
Speaker 4: Exactly take my doctor's diagnosis and ask social media what
Speaker 4: they think.
Speaker 1: I'd exactly go on Twitter, go on Reddit. Does this
Speaker 1: look like something to you? And then you show them
Speaker 1: a picture of a blotchy thing on your skin.
Speaker 2: This is a joke.
Speaker 1: It was a girl woman, sorry, woman talking to a mechanic.
Speaker 1: My car's making a terrible noise. The mechanic says, try
Speaker 1: taking the Taylor Swift seat out.
Speaker 2: I get it. I thought that was shot at thought
Speaker 2: that was mistress of note right.
Speaker 1: Uh. Diary of a dead North Korean soldier reveals grizzly
Speaker 1: battlefield tactics.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, whoa, I got into that a little bit.
Speaker 2: That was heavy.
Speaker 1: The troops are exposed, green, loyal, and dying by the
Speaker 1: thousands in frontline combat against Ukraine.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize North Korean soldiers were dying by the thousands. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you just you don't even try to protect your
Speaker 2: own life.
Speaker 4: You just march into the machine gun fire because there's
Speaker 4: a chance your family will have a slightly better life
Speaker 4: back in North Korea.
Speaker 2: If you're a quote unquote hero.
Speaker 1: God, dang it.
Speaker 2: That is brutal.
Speaker 1: I was listened to a podcast with David Petres remember him.
Speaker 1: He was the commander in Iraq and Afghanistan and CIA
Speaker 1: director and probably should be in the government at some
Speaker 1: level because he's brilliant. But he had an affair with
Speaker 1: a woman and that kind of ruin is great.
Speaker 2: He said. His numbers were the.
Speaker 1: Russians have lost five hundred thousand soldiers from the battlefield
Speaker 1: that can't return dead or wounded, to the point that
Speaker 1: they can't return half a million.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: That's a stunning number.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 1: And that is the history of Russia, just feeding people
Speaker 1: into the meat grinder until the other side wears down
Speaker 1: and it looks like it's going to work again.
Speaker 4: Except their birth rates are a tiny fraction of what
Speaker 4: they were fifty one hundred years ago.
Speaker 1: Now true ad Speaking of bad countries, China is removing
Speaker 1: Tibetan children from their families and placing them in schools
Speaker 1: where they face political indoctrination. So they're literally taking children
Speaker 1: out of homes in Tibet, taking them to China and
Speaker 1: re educating them to believe in the Communist Chinese Party.
Speaker 2: That is horrific.
Speaker 1: That is happening right now. College students are not protesting
Speaker 1: on campuses about that. In America, government schools are teaching
Speaker 1: your children that they can change what sex they are.
Speaker 1: On a whim Bill Maher said, rumors he's retiring are
Speaker 1: not true. I hadn't heard those rumors. He is gonna
Speaker 1: retire from stand up comedy as he's a very old man.
Speaker 1: But he said they will have to drag him off
Speaker 1: the set of Real Time. He will continue to do that.
Speaker 1: I'm glad because it's a good show and at least
Speaker 1: lately I generally agree with him. Came across this Ian
Speaker 1: Bremer retweeted it the percentage of companies worldwide who plan
Speaker 1: to reduce workforce in the next couple of years because
Speaker 1: of AI. Forty one percent of companies say they're going
Speaker 1: to reduce their working force in the next couple of
Speaker 1: years because of AI.
Speaker 2: I'm not very bright.
Speaker 1: And I tweeted that out and somebody said, yeah, that
Speaker 1: could be a receptionist, and they would say, yes, which
Speaker 1: is true.
Speaker 2: Well, if I'm feeding my family as a receptionist, I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: True, But if it's on an employee here or there,
Speaker 1: it's not quite as devastating as the number indicated, right.
Speaker 4: All right, I guess they didn't indicate the size of
Speaker 4: the workforce ruction and they had in mind. So we're
Speaker 4: going to touch a bit more on the utterly unthinkably
Speaker 4: devastating wildfires and stuff than California. Next to chat with
Speaker 4: legendary meteorologist from La Rick Dickert, and then on to
Speaker 4: more of the news of the day.
Speaker 2: If you can't stick around, grab the podcast. Armstrong and
Speaker 2: Getty on the band. And it was like a hurricane.
Speaker 2: This fire no water, but like eighty miles an hour plus.
Speaker 2: It feltser real. There's a fire like racing down the
Speaker 2: hill at that point. Yeah, well that's what's scary about this.
Speaker 2: It just was shooting like a blow torch, Like a
Speaker 2: blow torch. It was literally just shooting off of the mountain.
Speaker 1: Man, I just watched a video I hadn't seen this
Speaker 1: doorbell camera captures early moments of the eating fire. That's
Speaker 1: the one up by Altadena and Pasadena and these people.
Speaker 1: She was coming home from work and she saw a
Speaker 1: little orange glow off in the distance underneath the power lines.
Speaker 1: That's why they're now reporting. The La Times is reporting
Speaker 1: that they they get started under the power lines. But
Speaker 1: it's got the minute by minute on here of how
Speaker 1: fast it went from tiny little fire to a pretty
Speaker 1: big fire to holy crap, and they loaded up their
Speaker 1: car and got out of there. It's just crazy how
Speaker 1: fast that happened. And also I found the three letter
Speaker 1: warning for today comes up with this stuff. They declared
Speaker 1: it a PDS for today particularly dangerous situation. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: like the official and I guess when you declare something
Speaker 1: a PDS, then.
Speaker 2: All kinds of things happen. Do we need that, I
Speaker 2: don't know. It's what I wonder.
Speaker 4: So I would say it's a pleasure to talk to
Speaker 4: our next guest, and it is in a way, but
Speaker 4: it's a terrible, a terrible topic. Rick Dickard is a
Speaker 4: legend of LA Media Fox eleven Morning News, among other
Speaker 4: credits for years, certified broadcast meteorologist, heard many, many, many
Speaker 4: many times on our beloved affiliate seven ninety KABC, and
Speaker 4: he joins us, Now, Rick, how are.
Speaker 2: You, sir?
Speaker 8: I'm well, given what's happening here, Thank you for having me,
Speaker 8: Jack Joe. And you mentioned the PDS, and that is
Speaker 8: an official term used by the National Weather Service to
Speaker 8: express the heightened risk of severe weather, and here it's
Speaker 8: a wildfire or the potential of more wildfires that they
Speaker 8: issue those PDS's for severe weather hurricane tornadoes. So this
Speaker 8: is an extreme situation. And unfortunately we're looking at another
Speaker 8: powerful wind event, not quite what we saw last Tuesday,
Speaker 8: but close to it in terms of wind velocities that
Speaker 8: are anticipated over the next forty eight hours. Wow.
Speaker 4: And I want to get to that in just a second,
Speaker 4: But first, can you describe to folks what the weather
Speaker 4: was like last week when the fires started? Giving your
Speaker 4: perspective of reporting on this sort of thing for years
Speaker 4: and years.
Speaker 8: And I worked in the broadcast media here in southern
Speaker 8: California for thirty plus years, twenty of which I spent
Speaker 8: up in an airborne capacity in a helicopter covering these events,
Speaker 8: these wind driven events. This is the worst I have
Speaker 8: ever seen, and I was on the ground for this one.
Speaker 8: And essentially what happened dynamically in the atmosphere, Things came
Speaker 8: together to produce these hurricane force wind gusts in those
Speaker 8: areas that we call the urban wildland interface here in
Speaker 8: southern California, two of which above Pacific Palis States above
Speaker 8: that iconic shoreline if you're on the East coast, you've
Speaker 8: seen it in pictures and movies of Malibu. And then
Speaker 8: the Eaten fire above just to the north and northeast
Speaker 8: of the iconic Rose Bowl and Colorado Boulevard where you
Speaker 8: see the Rose Parade every year, those two areas, there
Speaker 8: was some sort of trigger in the wild land just
Speaker 8: above those communities. Those two sparks happened, and then dynamically, metrologically,
Speaker 8: we have this powerful wind event that allowed that fire
Speaker 8: to spread. You heard what people in those areas said,
Speaker 8: like a blow tours. It was a firestorm, eighty mine
Speaker 8: hour wind gusts burning that chaparral, that forest land, those
Speaker 8: dry hinder dry blasdshed We had months of no precipitation
Speaker 8: essentially here in southern California. That Breashcot fire, the winds ignited,
Speaker 8: and that fire spread directly down into those communities. They
Speaker 8: Eaten fire Pasadena over towards Alcadina, Sierra Madre, and then
Speaker 8: the Palisades fire encompassing the Pacific Palisa there even part
Speaker 8: of Santa Monica, and then up the coast towards Malabus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought I knew what these videos would be
Speaker 1: like when I started watching them. But some of the
Speaker 1: videos they had in sixty minutes last night and somebody
Speaker 1: saw this morning on my phone. It was so windy,
Speaker 1: it was like it was like CGI special effects, because
Speaker 1: I'd never see anything like that anywhere.
Speaker 4: No wonder it's been so difficult to fight, and it
Speaker 4: was like a machine gun of embers being shot over
Speaker 4: tremendous distances.
Speaker 8: Miles that those embers that Ember cast and the Ember intrusion,
Speaker 8: as we call it, it gets caught up in the
Speaker 8: eaves of homes two miles away from the fire zone
Speaker 8: because it was so dry out there, it ignited homes
Speaker 8: well away from that major fire zone. And that's exactly
Speaker 8: what happened for a good twelve to twenty four hour
Speaker 8: period after the two fires started. The Palisades Fire started
Speaker 8: at ten thirty am Pacific Standard time on Tuesday. The
Speaker 8: Eton Fire above the Rose Bowl north and east of
Speaker 8: the Rose Bowl in the Angels National Fire that started
Speaker 8: shortly after six pm on the same day. Worst case
Speaker 8: scenario with the weather in play and where those two
Speaker 8: fires ignited, allowing those fires fanned by those dusty, powerful
Speaker 8: hurricane force windows out of the north and northeast towards
Speaker 8: the south and southwest into those communities of.
Speaker 3: Pacific Palace states of Alcadina and Sierra Madre, including bizarre
Speaker 3: fire behaviors racing downhill driven by the wind, which is
Speaker 3: something normally that doesn't happen.
Speaker 4: Rick Dickert a longtime meteorologist reporter in LA Online. Rick
Speaker 4: talk to us about what's expected this week weatherwise.
Speaker 8: Yeah, again, we said it that PDS issued by the
Speaker 8: National Weather Service heightened fire weather encompassing parts of southern California,
Speaker 8: Ventura County, the Ranch Area, Semi Valley, San Fernando, the
Speaker 8: West Santa Monica Mountains. That's very close to the Palisades
Speaker 8: fire from Pepperdine University over towards point we go. Wind
Speaker 8: guts again, not as strong as what we saw last Tuesday,
Speaker 8: but close to it. We're talking about wind guts of
Speaker 8: forty five to seventy miles per a sustained wind of
Speaker 8: thirty nine miles an hour that's tropical storm force, a
Speaker 8: sustained wind of seventy four miles an hour that is
Speaker 8: a Category one hurricane. Those wind guts, in addition to
Speaker 8: the relative humidity values of eight to fifteen percent that's
Speaker 8: what's going to produce the red flag conditions. When a
Speaker 8: red flag warning is issued for southern California, if you're
Speaker 8: watching and listening from other parts of the country, that
Speaker 8: means explosive fire growth potential, just like what we saw
Speaker 8: last Tuesday into Wednesday, that blow towards effect. You get
Speaker 8: that ignition and.
Speaker 2: Then the fire spreads.
Speaker 8: And I do want to mention that Jack and Jodd
Speaker 8: of fire. These fires aren't started by the weather. They're
Speaker 8: driven by the weather. There's some sort of ignition. It
Speaker 8: could be something in terms of infrastructure. Unfortunately, there's arson.
Speaker 8: People let start these fires accidentally. The trigger occurs, the
Speaker 8: atmosphere conditions are in play, and that's what allows these
Speaker 8: fires to spread so rapidly and create the devastation that
Speaker 8: we've seen.
Speaker 2: I'm really glad we had you on. What a great report.
Speaker 2: Nice job, Yeah, terrific, Rick, We're big fans.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry it's under this circumstance that we talk to
Speaker 4: you about fabulous jab but I hope we can stay
Speaker 4: in touch.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, stay safe out everybody. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: It's interesting he brings that up about the Obviously the
Speaker 1: weather conditions don't start the fire, they spread the fire.
Speaker 1: David Spade, the actor comedian, is offering five thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for anybody with information on the arsonists to start the fire.
Speaker 1: So clearly he's under the impression that some human beings
Speaker 1: started this on purpose. Is I've often wondered this with
Speaker 1: with with our you know, you start a you go
Speaker 1: into a building and start that on fire, that's a
Speaker 1: you know, specific thing. But the starting a fire in
Speaker 1: an area that it catches on and then burns and
Speaker 1: and burns and burns, you gotta be prepared for that,
Speaker 1: whether it's an arsonist, a lightning strike, an electric breakdown,
Speaker 1: you gotta have some way to keep that from getting
Speaker 1: so out of control, don't you know the uh forest
Speaker 1: management We're having enough water in your fire hydrants to
Speaker 1: fight it or whatever, because there's always gonna be something
Speaker 1: a lot more sparked it or I don't think there
Speaker 1: is anything you can do to be ready for.
Speaker 4: That weather after that long a drought and getting sparked.
Speaker 4: You have to work like a maniac to make sure
Speaker 4: that in those conditions nothing gets sparked and there's super
Speaker 4: quick response if it does. But with one hundred malpar
Speaker 4: gusts lots and lots of seventy five mile prou gusts,
Speaker 4: you're just screwed. To summarize, although, and we've made this
Speaker 4: point a couple of times, and it's worth making again
Speaker 4: because a particular aspect of this cannot be blamed on
Speaker 4: bad govern is no reason to not talk about the awful,
Speaker 4: awful governance of California.
Speaker 2: Slash LA that was a contributor.
Speaker 4: Maybe it doesn't explain it, but it should still be
Speaker 4: identified and rooted out.
Speaker 1: I wish I could remember where I heard some fire
Speaker 1: chiefs saying we could have had every fire truck in
Speaker 1: America here last Thursday night and it wouldn't have made
Speaker 1: any difference when it was gusting to one hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour, which makes sense.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, the one gent I heard, I think it
Speaker 4: was on sixty minutes point doubt that if they have
Speaker 4: a fully involved structure, they want three fire trucks there typically,
Speaker 4: and that there were as of when they interviewed him,
Speaker 4: something like twelve thousand structures had burned.
Speaker 2: He said, do the math. There aren't that many fire trucks.
Speaker 1: I was trying to find the quote that man Gavin
Speaker 1: got beat up for on Friday it was similar to
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. See if I can find it
Speaker 1: real quick.
Speaker 2: Oh, Gavin Newsom he was.
Speaker 1: He did an interview on a liberal outlet, which also
Speaker 1: got him some pushback, like he didn't have the guts
Speaker 1: to go on where he was going to be challenged
Speaker 1: at all. He said, let's stop with the finger pointing.
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in who's to blame. Oh really, that's
Speaker 1: interesting because a lot of people are interested in who's
Speaker 1: to blame, Like a lot of.
Speaker 4: People with no homes are pretty interested in that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's funny, Gavin. A quick word from our friends at
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Speaker 1: So we can't play this enough today, speaking to Gavin Newsom,
Speaker 1: the Governor of California, here's here's my tiny little seminar
Speaker 1: I'm going to do for politicians.
Speaker 2: If you're ever asked the question does the buck stop
Speaker 2: with you? Always say yes. There's no win in anything
Speaker 2: other than yes, here you go. Does the buck stop
Speaker 2: with you? I mean, you're governor of California, inviting it
Speaker 2: will be the Mayor of California. We're all in this together.
Speaker 2: We're all better off. We're all better off. We're all
Speaker 2: better off, and we're working together to take care of people.
Speaker 7: What.
Speaker 4: Wow, obviously, well we know where Kamala Harris's speech writers
Speaker 4: went to work having been laid off.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was a terrible job. I'm strong
Speaker 2: and geddy. Thank you. We've got more on the way.
Speaker 2: Stay with us. Do I take off my coat like
Speaker 2: a girl? Apparently I do? I found out last night.
Speaker 1: I'll explain that in a second, But first, I know
Speaker 1: it's head shaking lye on, I know me neither did I. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the story in a little bit. But
Speaker 1: Pete hegzath. This is the week they start getting into
Speaker 1: the confirmation hearings. I'll just tell you this reporting John
Speaker 1: fun writing a National review. According to one senator, uh,
Speaker 1: they might not have the votes to get him out
Speaker 1: of committee, let alone get to the big floor vote thing. Now.
Speaker 1: Mark Hauprin's writing in his newsletter today is he thinks
Speaker 1: if Trump demands a floor vote, it will get out
Speaker 1: of committee. But he said, don't be surprised if it
Speaker 1: doesn't even get a floor vote, and there are at
Speaker 1: least a dozen possible no Republican votes. He can only
Speaker 1: lose three, is that correct Republican votes? And although Fetterman
Speaker 1: seems to be a yes on all the Trump stuff,
Speaker 1: so maybe you pick up one there. But there are
Speaker 1: a dozen senators out there. Susan Collins, Lisa Markovsky are
Speaker 1: hard nos. Mitch McConnell is a likely hard no, Jony
Speaker 1: Ernst of Iowa, some others that are possible knows.
Speaker 2: So we'll see how this turns out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Pete Headseth is a good man. I
Speaker 4: think he has some good ideas. He unquestionably has some
Speaker 4: baggage though things he said and advocated. And this is
Speaker 4: not a recommendation or an endorsement or non endorsement of
Speaker 4: the guy. But at some point Trump and company will say,
Speaker 4: all right, how about we get a good man with
Speaker 4: some good ideas who doesn't have all this baggage.
Speaker 2: It's just the way it works. So I got to
Speaker 2: find the exact wording on this.
Speaker 1: So I'm eating at Red Robin last night, Katie, because
Speaker 1: you know, I like the classy diners Red Robin with
Speaker 1: my son. He really likes the gluten freeburger. There get
Speaker 1: the burger. I think they got the best fries anyway,
Speaker 1: we're eating inks, that's not the point.
Speaker 2: Of the conversation. I'm eating.
Speaker 1: I take off my jacket and my son, Henry, thirteen
Speaker 1: years old, said, you take off your jacket like a girl.
Speaker 1: I thought that was hilarious because I don't even know
Speaker 1: what that means. And I thought, just what a funny
Speaker 1: thing to say, and I laughed.
Speaker 2: I said, was I mean? He said, you do?
Speaker 1: You take off your coat like a girl? So I
Speaker 1: texted a friend of mine who I've known for years,
Speaker 1: and I thought it was just going to be funny.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm out to eat with Henry. He said,
Speaker 1: I take off my jacket like a girl. And they
Speaker 1: texted back, you are certainly particular and intentional, I said,
Speaker 1: question mark when removing your jacket. I said, you've observed this,
Speaker 1: They said, I have that I take off my jacket
Speaker 1: like a girl a particular, intentional way. That is the
Speaker 1: way a woman takes.
Speaker 2: Off her coat.
Speaker 4: In all of our years working together, and what is
Speaker 4: it now, thirty three or more, have.
Speaker 2: You ever noticed I take off my coat like a
Speaker 2: girl in particular? No, okay, will you take off your
Speaker 2: coat really.
Speaker 7: Fast so we can get a demo because I'm I'm.
Speaker 2: Trying to take a step back so we can see
Speaker 2: over there is it? Okay, I gotta fix this because
Speaker 2: I'm I'll be single the rest of my life if
Speaker 2: I'm taking off there taking it off?
Speaker 1: What my son said, it's kind of hot, he said.
Speaker 1: The way you roll your shoulders and stick your chest out,
Speaker 1: it's like a girl.
Speaker 2: I feel like it needs a sexy music bed.
Speaker 1: Really, I wish you had a coat on, Katie. Maybe
Speaker 1: you can show me how a man takes his coat
Speaker 1: off as opposed to me, you can have a woman
Speaker 1: demonstrate how to be a man for it, gender bending madness.
Speaker 2: This is highly embarrassing.
Speaker 4: I could not I'm wearing an armstrong and giddy hoodie
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Speaker 2: I cannot at this. But how does a guy take
Speaker 2: off his coat?
Speaker 1: And how did I pick up the manu mannerisms of
Speaker 1: a woman for taking off my jacket?
Speaker 2: The way I roll my shoulders and stick up my
Speaker 2: chest is girl like.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm thinking about the way that my husband takes
Speaker 7: his jacket off and he just kind of like throws
Speaker 7: it over one shoulder and then kind of like just
Speaker 7: shakes out of it. So I don't know there they're
Speaker 7: see Michaelangelo.
Speaker 2: Watching Michael take off.
Speaker 4: Folks, Michael's jacket is on now it's all yeah, see
Speaker 4: it's the wiry, casual, unassuming, just gets it done, not
Speaker 4: a bunch of preening and posing like a friend.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 2: How many dance out of his jacket? You know, out
Speaker 2: of my tack?
Speaker 1: How she said, how many dates have I lost in
Speaker 1: my life where a woman's thinking, oh, ain't kind interested
Speaker 1: in him?
Speaker 2: And you know, kind of like his blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And then I took off my coat and they're like, no,
Speaker 2: FLA deal breaker is a deal breaker. I can't be
Speaker 2: with a guy who takes off his coat like a girl. Lady, lady, lady,
Speaker 2: your way out. I didn't even know there was such
Speaker 2: thing as taking your coat off like a girl.
Speaker 1: And now with people who know me, I bring it
Speaker 1: up and I say, oh, yeah, you've always done it
Speaker 1: that way.
Speaker 2: What the incisive criticism of Henry well done son? Huh?
Speaker 2: I gotta think about that long and hard. Where did
Speaker 2: that come from? I don't no, but man up? Would you?
Speaker 1: I got a practice Michael after the show, Can I
Speaker 1: watch you take your coat off again? And I try
Speaker 1: to nail down.
Speaker 2: Hr the weirdest requests I've ever had. I clearly do
Speaker 2: it the way I roll my shoulders. What the hell
Speaker 2: you do? Yeah, that's what we've been asking some deal.
Speaker 2: You learn something about yourself every day.
Speaker 7: We have a whole separate group text thread about how
Speaker 7: you take your jacket off there.
Speaker 2: Okay, don't ask me about my pants. Jack.
Speaker 4: So getting back to Pete, Hegsath's just briefly, and again
Speaker 4: I'm not here to endorse him or to say he
Speaker 4: shouldn't be sectaf or at least get a try. But
Speaker 4: this is why good people don't get into politics. You've
Speaker 4: heard all those allegations about womanizing or at one conference
Speaker 4: fifteen years ago, he blah blah blah, drinking too much
Speaker 4: and the rest of it. A lot of that is
Speaker 4: coming from a former employee name of Cat Dougan, who
Speaker 4: worked for or Concerned Veterans of America, where Pete was
Speaker 4: the CEO.
Speaker 2: I believe at the time she worked there for eight months.
Speaker 4: She received a poor performance review several months into her
Speaker 4: job as she was serving as cva's North Carolina state director.
Speaker 4: Shortly thereafter, she filed for short term disability, then long
Speaker 4: term disability, and ultimately resigned her position and claimed disability.
Speaker 4: The national field director at the time, Sean Pattison, told
Speaker 4: the Washington Free Beacon that Miss Dugan quote consistently fell
Speaker 4: short of performance expectations.
Speaker 2: She was a bad hire. She did not do a
Speaker 2: good job.
Speaker 4: She only lasted a few months, then started suing everybody
Speaker 4: and wanting disability and the rest of us.
Speaker 2: And now she is the.
Speaker 4: Secret source, the anonymous source of all these allegations.
Speaker 1: About hexath Right, and all the people on Fox and
Speaker 1: Friends say we worked with him every day for years
Speaker 1: and years and years, and nobody's called us and asked
Speaker 1: us a single question about this.
Speaker 4: There is a long line of people who worked with
Speaker 4: him for years who say, this guy is one of
Speaker 4: the most stand up people I've ever known periods.
Speaker 2: So I'll bet Pete Hegsaff doesn't take his coat off
Speaker 2: like a girl.
Speaker 4: Right.
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