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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty. Hi, y'all doing.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 1: We're about to talk a little bit about misinformation disinformation.

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Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg was on Joe Rogan's Much Listen To podcast

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Speaker 1: on Friday, said some things that should be giant news stories,

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Speaker 1: but partially not because of the fires eating up a

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Speaker 1: lot of time and space and newspapers and broadcast TV

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Speaker 1: and that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it's more about the media's hesitation

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Speaker 4: to admit what is plainly true about censorship and the

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Speaker 4: Biden administration in COVID.

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Speaker 1: But for instance, on misinformation disinformation, this is a breaking

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Speaker 1: story in the La Times right now. Investigators looking into

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Speaker 1: electric towers possible eating fire origin site. That's the big

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Speaker 1: fire in the Pasadena Altadeene area. Then you got the

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Speaker 1: other fire, the bigger fire the Palisades area. They think

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Speaker 1: the last story I read about it, and I think

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Speaker 1: it was also in the La Times some fireworks from

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Speaker 1: New Year's Eve had been smoldering and started that whole thing.

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Speaker 1: There was an illegal arrested. Well, a bunch of people

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Speaker 1: detained an illegal they saw who had a fire torch

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Speaker 1: in his hand, like the way you light fires. But

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Speaker 1: there's nobody's nailed down that he started any fires. I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing lots of social media just blanket statements of illegals

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Speaker 1: are going around starting fires in La. Well, there's no

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Speaker 1: evidence that that any of these fires were started by

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Speaker 1: illegal I'd be more than happy to jump on that

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Speaker 1: story if it's nailed down, trust me, I'd love that story.

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Speaker 2: But there's no evidence that that's actually happening.

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Speaker 1: But if you're on social media for a big crowd,

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Speaker 1: it's as if it's completely true and nailed That's the

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Speaker 1: way information works.

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Speaker 2: That's the way information works in the modern era.

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Speaker 1: For I know that for a lot of people on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: for instance, that story's done for the rest of their lives.

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Speaker 1: Illegals started these fires, even though that's not what happened,

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Speaker 1: at least not yet. So that's that's a difficult situation.

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Speaker 1: Even if you're trying to do your best in social

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Speaker 1: media and you know monitor what's true and what's not.

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Speaker 1: You go further the other direction, which Zuckerberg's about to

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Speaker 1: talk about with Joe Rogan on Friday, where you're putting

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Speaker 1: out things you know to be true and the government's

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Speaker 1: screaming at you and doesn't want you to do that.

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Speaker 2: But let's let's start at the beginning here.

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Speaker 1: Here's Mark Zuckerberg, guy runs Facebook on Joe Rogan on Friday.

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Speaker 5: But it was really in the last ten years that

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Speaker 5: people started pushing for like ideological base censorship. And I

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Speaker 5: think it was two main events that really triggered this.

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Speaker 5: Sixteen There was the election of President Trump, also coincided

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Speaker 5: with basically Brexit in the EU and sort of the

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Speaker 5: fragmentation of the EU. And then you know, in twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty there was COVID, And I think that those were

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Speaker 5: basically these two events were for the first time, we

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Speaker 5: just placed, we just faced this massive, massive institutional pressure

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Speaker 5: to basically start censoring content on ideological grounds.

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Speaker 1: Institutional pressure to censor content. Well, where was that coming

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Speaker 1: from and in what way? He talks more about it here.

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Speaker 5: It was during the Biden administration when they were trying

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Speaker 5: to roll out the vaccine program. And I'm generally like

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Speaker 5: pretty pro rolling out vaccines. I think on balance the

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Speaker 5: vaccines are more positive than negative. But I think that

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Speaker 5: while they're trying to push that program, they also tried

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Speaker 5: censor anyone who is basically arguing against it, and they

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Speaker 5: honestly were true, right, I mean, they basically pushed us

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Speaker 5: and said, you know, anything that says that vaccines might

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Speaker 5: I was just like, well, we're not going to do that, Like,

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Speaker 5: we're clearly not going to do that. I mean, that

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Speaker 1: We don't have the audio of this, but he says

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Speaker 1: Biden administration officials used to call and scream at us,

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Speaker 1: demanding that we remove COVID related content, even things that

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Speaker 1: were facts or memes in humor. When we refused, we

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Speaker 4: Well, right, And I thought it was ironically kind of

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Speaker 4: ridiculously charming that he said we faced incredible institutional pressure.

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Speaker 4: The institution in question is not like the National Association

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Speaker 4: him what to print and what not to print. It

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Speaker 4: sounds like censorship to me.

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Speaker 1: Well especially, I mean when there is a clear penalty there.

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Speaker 1: When we refused, we found ourselves under investigation by several agencies.

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Speaker 4: Well right, yeah, As I said at the time when

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Speaker 4: I was howling about this, whether it's investigations or regulations

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Speaker 4: or lawsuits or just impediments, I mean, if a federal

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Speaker 4: government decides to f with you, pardon me, f with you,

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Speaker 4: they will they will make it impossible to do business

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Speaker 4: through the tax code. Witness the conservative organizations during the

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Speaker 4: Tea Party era or whatever. The Pea Party era is

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Speaker 4: a completely different era. I apologize I'm as spoke, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's and I was so bitterly disappointed when the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 4: in I think it was Murthy versus Missouri, essentially struck

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Speaker 4: down a lawsuit about this. Having gone back to refresh

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Speaker 4: my memory about it, it's the sort of you didn't

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Speaker 4: have standing to sue, assuming that past censorship would equal

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Speaker 4: future censorship. So they weren't asking the Supreme Court. Hey,

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Speaker 4: particular injunction. So I would love to have the Supreme

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Speaker 4: Court hand down in whatever former, whatever pretext, the word

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Speaker 4: that no, this sort of censorship by proxy or through

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Speaker 4: the threat of action is a violation of.

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Speaker 2: The First Amendment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, rockstar lawyer Randy Barnett, who's got a great book

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Speaker 1: out right now, tweeted over the weekend the Biden administration

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Speaker 1: pressure on Facebook should be big news and a huge scandal,

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Speaker 1: big enough for Scotus to hear about it.

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Speaker 2: But will it. He thinks it should be a Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court case like you're just talking about. I think so too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a big deal. The fact that it.

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Speaker 1: Landed on Friday with very little coverage, again partially because

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Speaker 1: of the fire obscuring everything like that is well, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: I think the fire is a pilot light compared to

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Speaker 4: the utter you know, discussed that most of the media

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Speaker 4: that stuff that we were one hundred percent for suppressing,

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Speaker 4: like the the you know, the scientists who are advocating

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Speaker 4: for the Great Barrington Declaration, for instance, who are pointing out, yeah,

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Speaker 4: there are side effects, who are pointing out, no, the

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Speaker 4: should open the schools who were saying that young healthy

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Speaker 4: no need to take the jab. All of those things

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Speaker 4: are now unquestionably and unquestioned fact. But the media was

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Speaker 4: complicit in silencing those people. So no, they're not going

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Speaker 4: to turn around and say, gee, that censorship was awful.

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Speaker 1: Without the fire, I think Fox would have made this

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Speaker 1: I don't think Meta Kress faced the Nation would have

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Speaker 1: in this sort of thing. One more clip from Rogan.

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Speaker 1: I thought was interesting. You were just lying to us

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Speaker 1: one of the straight shooters. Now, yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: where that goes from there.

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Speaker 4: I tell you what, with all due respect to our

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Speaker 4: need to not prop up people we compete with, allegedly,

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Speaker 4: that's a great question by Rogan, That's an incredibly uncomfortable question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well that's been the pushback since last week when

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Speaker 2: The real you?

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Speaker 4: Or do you just yeah and fair enough? Although you know,

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Speaker 4: my goal in this discussion is not whether I should

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Speaker 4: like more Exegerber sure, not that sup has sailed. It's

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Speaker 4: about the First Amendment in government censorship.

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Speaker 1: That's horrifying that that could happen though at that level

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Speaker 1: on things that were really important. Yes, are there side

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Speaker 1: effects on the vaccine the government is forcing you to

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Speaker 1: get or you.

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Speaker 2: Lose your job, not allowed to say, what are you kidding? Mind?

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Speaker 4: That included a hell of a lot of firefighters and

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Speaker 4: soldiers and sailors and marines. So you young, healthy, primarily

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Speaker 4: men who would not get the JAB, many of whom

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Speaker 1: So you're employed by the government at some level, and

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Speaker 1: the government's not allowing discussion on whether or not the

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Speaker 2: That's exactly the sort of thing you don't.

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Speaker 4: Want to in a free society, I would agree, And

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Speaker 4: the technicalities of who can sue and who has standing

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Speaker 4: The Supreme Court has got to issue some sort of

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Speaker 1: Zuckerberg did have the option, didn't he though, of going

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Speaker 1: pressuring us to take down things that are true or

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Speaker 2: God doubt of it, a huge story. Yep, absolutely, I

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Speaker 1: by all the shows, and talks about how the Bedministry

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, what a story that would have been.

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Speaker 2: But he chose not to do that.

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Speaker 4: He either lacked of moral courage or he made the

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Speaker 1: I think he's probably a weasel, but I am giving

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Speaker 4: A while, and uh, and in Silicon Valley there was

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Speaker 4: there who are still friggin masked. Pardon me, I get

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Speaker 4: new listeners. Generally, I can contain my mild obscenity is

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Speaker 2: Fires it is it dry January wearing on you?

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Speaker 4: I'm starting to get a little twitchy. Yes, always been disappointing,

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Speaker 4: and we've talked about this so many times. I don't

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Speaker 2: Kind of hoping it feel better. So this is just

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Speaker 1: I have a whole bunch of interesting nuggets that I

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Speaker 2: If you can't stick around, grab the podcast. Armstrong and

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Speaker 2: Getty on the band. And it was like a hurricane.

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Speaker 8: And I worked in the broadcast media here in southern

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Speaker 8: Yeah, again, we said it that PDS issued by the

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Speaker 8: of fire. These fires aren't started by the weather. They're

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Speaker 8: driven by the weather. There's some sort of ignition. It

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Speaker 8: could be something in terms of infrastructure. Unfortunately, there's arson.

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Speaker 8: People let start these fires accidentally. The trigger occurs, the

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Speaker 8: atmosphere conditions are in play, and that's what allows these

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Speaker 8: fires to spread so rapidly and create the devastation that

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Speaker 8: we've seen.

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Speaker 2: I'm really glad we had you on. What a great report.

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Speaker 2: Nice job, Yeah, terrific, Rick, We're big fans.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry it's under this circumstance that we talk to

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Speaker 4: you about fabulous jab but I hope we can stay

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Speaker 4: in touch.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, stay safe out everybody. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting he brings that up about the Obviously the

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Speaker 1: weather conditions don't start the fire, they spread the fire.

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Speaker 1: David Spade, the actor comedian, is offering five thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: for anybody with information on the arsonists to start the fire.

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Speaker 1: So clearly he's under the impression that some human beings

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Speaker 1: started this on purpose. Is I've often wondered this with

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Speaker 1: with with our you know, you start a you go

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Speaker 1: into a building and start that on fire, that's a

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Speaker 1: you know, specific thing. But the starting a fire in

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Speaker 1: an area that it catches on and then burns and

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Speaker 1: and burns and burns, you gotta be prepared for that,

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Speaker 1: whether it's an arsonist, a lightning strike, an electric breakdown,

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Speaker 1: you gotta have some way to keep that from getting

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Speaker 1: so out of control, don't you know the uh forest

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Speaker 1: management We're having enough water in your fire hydrants to

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Speaker 1: fight it or whatever, because there's always gonna be something

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Speaker 1: a lot more sparked it or I don't think there

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Speaker 1: is anything you can do to be ready for.

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Speaker 4: That weather after that long a drought and getting sparked.

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Speaker 4: You have to work like a maniac to make sure

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Speaker 4: that in those conditions nothing gets sparked and there's super

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Speaker 4: quick response if it does. But with one hundred malpar

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Speaker 4: gusts lots and lots of seventy five mile prou gusts,

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Speaker 4: you're just screwed. To summarize, although, and we've made this

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Speaker 4: point a couple of times, and it's worth making again

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Speaker 4: because a particular aspect of this cannot be blamed on

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Speaker 4: bad govern is no reason to not talk about the awful,

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Speaker 4: awful governance of California.

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Speaker 2: Slash LA that was a contributor.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it doesn't explain it, but it should still be

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Speaker 4: identified and rooted out.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could remember where I heard some fire

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Speaker 1: chiefs saying we could have had every fire truck in

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Speaker 1: America here last Thursday night and it wouldn't have made

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Speaker 1: any difference when it was gusting to one hundred miles

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Speaker 1: an hour, which makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, the one gent I heard, I think it

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Speaker 4: was on sixty minutes point doubt that if they have

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Speaker 4: and that there were as of when they interviewed him,

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Speaker 4: something like twelve thousand structures had burned.

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Speaker 2: He said, do the math. There aren't that many fire trucks.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to find the quote that man Gavin

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Speaker 1: got beat up for on Friday it was similar to

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Speaker 2: Oh, Gavin Newsom he was.

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Speaker 1: He did an interview on a liberal outlet, which also

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Speaker 1: at all. He said, let's stop with the finger pointing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not interested in who's to blame. Oh really, that's

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Speaker 2: Stay with us. Do I take off my coat like

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Speaker 2: a girl? Apparently I do? I found out last night.

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Speaker 1: I'll explain that in a second, But first, I know

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Speaker 1: it's head shaking lye on, I know me neither did I. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you the story in a little bit. But

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Speaker 1: Pete hegzath. This is the week they start getting into

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Speaker 1: the confirmation hearings. I'll just tell you this reporting John

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Speaker 1: fun writing a National review. According to one senator, uh,

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Speaker 1: they might not have the votes to get him out

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Speaker 1: of committee, let alone get to the big floor vote thing. Now.

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Speaker 1: Mark Hauprin's writing in his newsletter today is he thinks

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Speaker 1: if Trump demands a floor vote, it will get out

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Speaker 1: of committee. But he said, don't be surprised if it

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Speaker 1: doesn't even get a floor vote, and there are at

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Speaker 1: least a dozen possible no Republican votes. He can only

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Speaker 1: lose three, is that correct Republican votes? And although Fetterman

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Speaker 1: seems to be a yes on all the Trump stuff,

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Speaker 1: so maybe you pick up one there. But there are

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Speaker 1: a dozen senators out there. Susan Collins, Lisa Markovsky are

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Speaker 1: hard nos. Mitch McConnell is a likely hard no, Jony

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Speaker 1: Ernst of Iowa, some others that are possible knows.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see how this turns out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Pete Headseth is a good man. I

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Speaker 4: think he has some good ideas. He unquestionably has some

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Speaker 4: baggage though things he said and advocated. And this is

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Speaker 4: not a recommendation or an endorsement or non endorsement of

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Speaker 4: the guy. But at some point Trump and company will say,

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Speaker 4: all right, how about we get a good man with

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Speaker 4: some good ideas who doesn't have all this baggage.

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Speaker 2: It's just the way it works. So I got to

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Speaker 2: find the exact wording on this.

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Speaker 1: So I'm eating at Red Robin last night, Katie, because

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Speaker 1: you know, I like the classy diners Red Robin with

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Speaker 1: my son. He really likes the gluten freeburger. There get

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Speaker 1: the burger. I think they got the best fries anyway,

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Speaker 1: we're eating inks, that's not the point.

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Speaker 2: Of the conversation. I'm eating.

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Speaker 1: I take off my jacket and my son, Henry, thirteen

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Speaker 1: years old, said, you take off your jacket like a girl.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was hilarious because I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what that means. And I thought, just what a funny

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Speaker 1: thing to say, and I laughed.

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Speaker 2: I said, was I mean? He said, you do?

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Speaker 1: You take off your coat like a girl? So I

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Speaker 1: texted a friend of mine who I've known for years,

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Speaker 1: and I thought it was just going to be funny.

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm out to eat with Henry. He said,

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Speaker 1: I take off my jacket like a girl. And they

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Speaker 1: texted back, you are certainly particular and intentional, I said,

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Speaker 1: question mark when removing your jacket. I said, you've observed this,

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Speaker 1: They said, I have that I take off my jacket

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Speaker 1: like a girl a particular, intentional way. That is the

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Speaker 1: way a woman takes.

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Speaker 2: Off her coat.

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Speaker 4: In all of our years working together, and what is

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Speaker 4: it now, thirty three or more, have.

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Speaker 2: You ever noticed I take off my coat like a

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Speaker 2: girl in particular? No, okay, will you take off your

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Speaker 2: coat really.

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Speaker 7: Fast so we can get a demo because I'm I'm.

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Speaker 2: Trying to take a step back so we can see

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Speaker 2: over there is it? Okay, I gotta fix this because

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Speaker 2: I'm I'll be single the rest of my life if

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Speaker 2: I'm taking off there taking it off?

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Speaker 1: What my son said, it's kind of hot, he said.

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Speaker 1: The way you roll your shoulders and stick your chest out,

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Speaker 1: it's like a girl.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it needs a sexy music bed.

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Speaker 1: Really, I wish you had a coat on, Katie. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you can show me how a man takes his coat

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Speaker 1: off as opposed to me, you can have a woman

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Speaker 1: demonstrate how to be a man for it, gender bending madness.

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Speaker 2: This is highly embarrassing.

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Speaker 4: I could not I'm wearing an armstrong and giddy hoodie

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Speaker 4: good Armstrong, a giddy dot com.

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Speaker 2: I cannot at this. But how does a guy take

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Speaker 2: off his coat?

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Speaker 1: And how did I pick up the manu mannerisms of

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Speaker 1: a woman for taking off my jacket?

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Speaker 2: The way I roll my shoulders and stick up my

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Speaker 2: chest is girl like.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm thinking about the way that my husband takes

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Speaker 7: his jacket off and he just kind of like throws

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Speaker 7: it over one shoulder and then kind of like just

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Speaker 7: shakes out of it. So I don't know there they're

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Speaker 7: see Michaelangelo.

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Speaker 2: Watching Michael take off.

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Speaker 4: Folks, Michael's jacket is on now it's all yeah, see

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Speaker 4: it's the wiry, casual, unassuming, just gets it done, not

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Speaker 4: a bunch of preening and posing like a friend.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: How many dance out of his jacket? You know, out

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Speaker 2: of my tack?

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Speaker 1: How she said, how many dates have I lost in

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Speaker 1: my life where a woman's thinking, oh, ain't kind interested

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Speaker 1: in him?

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Speaker 2: And you know, kind of like his blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: And then I took off my coat and they're like, no,

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Speaker 2: FLA deal breaker is a deal breaker. I can't be

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Speaker 2: with a guy who takes off his coat like a girl. Lady, lady, lady,

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Speaker 2: your way out. I didn't even know there was such

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Speaker 2: thing as taking your coat off like a girl.

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Speaker 1: And now with people who know me, I bring it

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Speaker 1: up and I say, oh, yeah, you've always done it

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Speaker 1: that way.

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Speaker 2: What the incisive criticism of Henry well done son? Huh?

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Speaker 2: I gotta think about that long and hard. Where did

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Speaker 2: that come from? I don't no, but man up? Would you?

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Speaker 1: I got a practice Michael after the show, Can I

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Speaker 1: watch you take your coat off again? And I try

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Speaker 1: to nail down.

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Speaker 2: Hr the weirdest requests I've ever had. I clearly do

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Speaker 2: it the way I roll my shoulders. What the hell

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Speaker 2: you do? Yeah, that's what we've been asking some deal.

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Speaker 2: You learn something about yourself every day.

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Speaker 7: We have a whole separate group text thread about how

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Speaker 7: you take your jacket off there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, don't ask me about my pants. Jack.

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Speaker 4: So getting back to Pete, Hegsath's just briefly, and again

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Speaker 4: I'm not here to endorse him or to say he

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Speaker 4: shouldn't be sectaf or at least get a try. But

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Speaker 4: this is why good people don't get into politics. You've

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Speaker 4: heard all those allegations about womanizing or at one conference

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Speaker 4: fifteen years ago, he blah blah blah, drinking too much

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Speaker 4: and the rest of it. A lot of that is

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Speaker 4: coming from a former employee name of Cat Dougan, who

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Speaker 4: worked for or Concerned Veterans of America, where Pete was

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Speaker 4: the CEO.

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Speaker 2: I believe at the time she worked there for eight months.

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Speaker 4: She received a poor performance review several months into her

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Speaker 4: job as she was serving as cva's North Carolina state director.

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Speaker 4: Shortly thereafter, she filed for short term disability, then long

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Speaker 4: term disability, and ultimately resigned her position and claimed disability.

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Speaker 4: The national field director at the time, Sean Pattison, told

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Speaker 4: the Washington Free Beacon that Miss Dugan quote consistently fell

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Speaker 4: short of performance expectations.

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Speaker 2: She was a bad hire. She did not do a

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Speaker 2: good job.

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Speaker 4: She only lasted a few months, then started suing everybody

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Speaker 4: and wanting disability and the rest of us.

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Speaker 2: And now she is the.

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Speaker 4: Secret source, the anonymous source of all these allegations.

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Speaker 1: About hexath Right, and all the people on Fox and

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Speaker 1: Friends say we worked with him every day for years

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Speaker 1: and years and years, and nobody's called us and asked

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Speaker 1: us a single question about this.

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Speaker 4: There is a long line of people who worked with

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Speaker 4: him for years who say, this guy is one of

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Speaker 4: the most stand up people I've ever known periods.

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Speaker 2: So I'll bet Pete Hegsaff doesn't take his coat off

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Speaker 2: like a girl.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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