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Speaker 2: Welcome to the latest edition of The Giants Huddle podcast,

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Speaker 2: Giants for discounts, rebates and home energy assessments. I'm Lance Meadow,

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Speaker 2: He's John Schmelk, and today we're going to dig deeper

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Speaker 2: into the twenty twenty three draft class and focus on

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Speaker 2: first round pick number twenty four overall, Maryland corner Deontay Banks.

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Speaker 2: And we are going by the head coach of the

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Speaker 2: Maryland Terrapins, Michael Loxley. Coach greatly appreciate the time, hopepole

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Speaker 2: as well as everything on your end.

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Speaker 1: Everything's good, fellas, and appreciate you guys having.

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Speaker 3: You absolutely it's a pleasure having you on.

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Speaker 2: And I want to start with the major storyline coming

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Speaker 2: out of the draft for the Giants. When they took

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Speaker 2: Deontay Banks, everybody said you couldn't have picked a better player.

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Speaker 2: Bit wise for Wink Martindale's system, considering he's a pressman

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Speaker 2: corner who's more than comfortable being out on an island.

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Speaker 2: You know his skill set so well, why is he

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Speaker 2: such a great fit for this Giants defense?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it starts with its size. When you

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Speaker 1: look at the receivers that are really having a lot

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Speaker 1: of success in the NFL, there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: big guys that outside on that island. Typically tall, long,

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Speaker 1: athletic guys struggle to play on that island. But Deontay

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Speaker 1: is one of those guys that has the length that

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Speaker 1: you like, whether it's the arm length, the height, but

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Speaker 1: he also has the feet and the ability to play

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Speaker 1: like a little guy. And so to me, the athleticism,

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Speaker 1: the ability to play man covers and I think probably

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Speaker 1: his biggest trait or skill set trait that I've always

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Speaker 1: really been most impressed with is his ability to forget

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Speaker 1: a bad play. As you know you're going to have

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Speaker 1: balls call on you, you will get beat. As a corner,

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Speaker 1: you have to understand that. But it's the ability to

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Speaker 1: innate ability that even when he does maybe give up

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Speaker 1: nor does he lose the ability to get right back

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Speaker 1: in front of a guy that has talent and know

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Speaker 4: You know, coach, It's almost become a trope when a

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Speaker 4: that guy's got that dog in him. But is that

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Speaker 4: the type of thing you're talking about with Deontay, the

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Speaker 4: way he just keeps going and has that natural confidence

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And to me, it's not even just the dog

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Speaker 1: And as I've used the analogy, he's just dumb enough

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Speaker 1: He does not care about names. He doesn't care about

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Speaker 2: On the island coach being of the mental makeup of

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is and it's something that

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Speaker 1: Developmental program. We're a program it's always going to be

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Speaker 4: How have you seen him develop coach over over his

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what his development has been from the

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Speaker 1: just you know, we talk about being a pro and

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Speaker 2: Co John the topic of physicality when we talk about corners,

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Speaker 2: What have you seen in terms of specifically the development

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, because of his size and because of

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Speaker 1: And you know, Deontae's a guy that I think will

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Speaker 1: But then also, I think, because of the physicality, will

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Speaker 4: You know, Lance mentioned that the run game coach in

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Speaker 4: terms of coverage. I know, you guys just watching his

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Speaker 4: but the skills necessary for being a good press guy

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Speaker 1: No, so he's benefitted that we've had three coordinators in

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Speaker 1: looking and ken the old Tampa two stuff. He played

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Speaker 1: he's playing off. We do play some man coverage. We've

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Speaker 1: And from the standpoint that you know when you watch

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Speaker 1: play complimentary coverages. But if you want to ask what

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Speaker 1: the strength is, the strength is to put them on

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Speaker 2: It seems thanks to that versatility that you just talked about,

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Speaker 2: you were also able to tap into his ability to

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Speaker 3: I believe he was the main jammer. He blocked an

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Speaker 2: And you know, from young guys coming into the league,

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Speaker 2: even though they may be first round picks, they can't

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Speaker 2: necessarily be against perhaps contributing on special teams. What were

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we don't have to do a lot

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Speaker 1: of selling on that because we've had a lot of success.

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Speaker 1: Coach.

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Speaker 4: One of the toughest things that I think, especially if

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Speaker 4: How did how did you guys teach that? Because I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, my background have been on the defensive side.

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Speaker 3: He recently met with the media.

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Speaker 2: One of the games that came up in the conversation

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Speaker 3: That really helped up his profile.

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Speaker 4: What kind of guy of the Giants getting coach You

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Speaker 1: The interesting things I've spent the last three days sitting

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Speaker 1: you this for you media people. He's not a great interview.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's a man of very few words.

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Speaker 3: And we've seen that already, coach, Yeah, we have seen that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't have the comfort level of wanting to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he lets his game do the talking, which is

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Speaker 2: you both won a national championship. You alluded to earlier

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think obviously the big thing is is people

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Speaker 1: Number One, we give total complete access to every NFL team.

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Speaker 1: We don't have closed practices. The NFL teams, I know,

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Speaker 1: I have, I think the reputation of knowing one that

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Speaker 1: And that's what Jays want if you're going to put

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Speaker 4: All right, Coach, final one for me. And this is

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Speaker 4: at this a while, You're very familiar with college in

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Speaker 2: Coach, before we let you go, I find it always

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Speaker 1: You one takement. We won one game, So there you go.

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Speaker 2: That was I believe the forty five to forty four

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Speaker 3: What you did.

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Speaker 2: Get a close look at John Michael Schmidz and he

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Speaker 1: A low center, gravity guy, knowing how Dave's loves to

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Speaker 1: and through this guy and his ability. So you're getting,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Big Ten. When you want old lineman,

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Speaker 1: you look to the Big Ten, and this league has

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Speaker 1: had a lot of really talented alignment come out of it,

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Speaker 1: and the kids you guys drafted is one of the

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Speaker 1: best that had been in there the last couple of

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Speaker 1: years since I've been back in the league.

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Speaker 2: And the Giants Surnay looking forward to not only John

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Speaker 2: Michael Schmidz, but Deontay Banks, twenty fourth overall first round

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Speaker 2: pick out of Maryland. He's the head coach of the Terrapins.

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Speaker 2: Michael Loxley coach. Can't thank you enough. Greatly appreciate the

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Speaker 2: time of the time and best of luck this upcoming season.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Las, Thanks John, appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 2: This is the latest edition of the Giant Total Podcast.

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Speaker 2: You can catch it on Giants dot Com, the mobile app,

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Speaker 2: and your favorite podcast platforms,