1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 3 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, December thirty, first, twenty nineteen season fifteen, 8 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: episode number one on nine. Welcome to the final edition 9 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: of The Break for the two thousand nineteenth season. After today, 10 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: we will start our offseason schedule next week. We'll be 11 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: going once a week. We're still putting that schedule together. 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: We'll let you guys know as soon as we get 13 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: that figured out. I got only got to one hundred 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: and nine episode. Yeah, but we still got more shows 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: that will be a part of this season. Yeah, Derek 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: doesn't turn it over till we'll turn over to the 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: NFL season changes. But this football scout a whole system. Yeah, 18 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: I do. I've been doing this fifteen years. Don't worry 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: about it. I got it. That's sad. Wow, is kind 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: of sad, kind of confetit all right, I got Nick Woodman, 21 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: Dave Amber, We got Danny joining us as well. All 22 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: five of the crew here today that have been a 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: part of the break for this season, and today we're 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: gonna recap. Actually what we're gonna talk about is is 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: expiring contracts. We're gonna talk about coaches that are up. 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about players that are up. There are 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: a ton of them on both sides of those. And 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: I'll want to know from you guys what you think 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: will and should happen with all those guys. But before 30 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: we do that, as a way to start off the show, 31 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: I'd like to go around the table and I want 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: each of you just give me a quick little minute 33 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: on just your thoughts on where this team is based 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: on what you saw this season, based upon what is 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: expected to have to happen this offseason. Just where you 36 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: think if you had to give a state of the 37 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: Union right now, Uh, well, where would you be right 38 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: now with this team. I'll start with the older statesman, Nick, 39 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: start us off. Um, what I like a little heads 40 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: up on that one? Well, I want it really there 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: is why I didn't tell you before is because I 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: really wanted you're off Just what was on top of 43 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: your mind about this team right now. They need I 44 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: think they need better play on defense. I think that. 45 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean you can say, I mean coaching, Yeah, you can, 46 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: you can say that. I mean, they're gonna need to 47 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: figure this out with the staff, But um, I think, 48 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, more than anything, I think that they need 49 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: better play. The offense was good enough at times, but 50 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: the defense I think is going to be where the 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: focus needs to be. They need to figure out question 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: marks on defense persual with the defensive line and the secondary. 53 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of moving parts there as 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: part of sels we used to say, and I think 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: that that defense is need needs to be addressed more 56 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: than anything, all right, Amber, Hmm, Well, you know what, 57 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm feeling a little emotional today, and I just every year, 58 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, I just hate the fact that our youth 59 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: is going away. You know. Every year that pass every 60 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: year that passes by is another last year, you know, 61 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: And I feel that in my short time that I've 62 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: been here, I genuinely really felt very, very excited about 63 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: this specific season. We went into training camp and I 64 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, wow, Chris Rushar. I was so excited 65 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: about Chris Rashard and everything that he was doing in 66 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: the defense and everything that was going on as far 67 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: as the offense and what Amari Cooper was bringing into 68 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: the team, seeing Dak developed into a better passer, you know, 69 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: throwing those long passes down the field. I was just 70 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: very excited about the future of this team and right now, 71 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the season came to an end, but 72 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: as of right now, I have absolutely no idea what 73 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: this team is going to look like next year, not 74 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: just within the players but also the coaching staff. I 75 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: have no clue or anything, any sense of like what 76 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: to expect moving forward. So I think it's just getting 77 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: over that disappointment of just another year kind of wasted 78 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: and the talent that we thought we had and then 79 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: the unknown, just not knowing what's going to happen next Danny. 80 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: I feel like they were almost kind of like knocking 81 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: on the door, like we saw so many good sparks 82 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: of what this team is capable of, especially on offense, 83 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: and so I still have faith in that sense of 84 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: like when you look at this roster, you still know 85 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: what these players are capable of, but for whatever reason, 86 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: they were never able to play complimentary football. And I 87 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: agree with Nick, I think The biggest issue from this 88 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: team has been defense on the line and the secondary 89 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: of special I mean and even really all over, I 90 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: mean every position was struggling with tackling for most of 91 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: the season, and so I think that's where most of 92 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: it needs to be the focus, whether that's acquisitions or 93 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: the draft. Whenever we get to that point, I think 94 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: defense is going to have to be a really heavy 95 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: area they focus on. And I think it'll be just 96 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens because there are so many 97 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: coaches and I think if we do get a new 98 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: head coach that overhauls I mean everything, and so we'll 99 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: have to see what happens there. But I think just 100 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: disappointment from this year of knowing what this team was 101 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: capable of and they all said that to themselves, and 102 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: just not being able to get the job done. Dave 103 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: round the Cell, I'm not an overly like sentimental person. 104 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: I don't buy into the whole kind of I don't 105 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: buy into the whole like concept that like New Year's 106 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: really means anything, you know, like it's it's a fresh slate, 107 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I don't really buy it in general, 108 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: but it's really crazy and fitting Jason Garrett oversaw literally 109 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: this whole decade that's about to end, like almost the 110 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: whole thing, with the exception of like six months in 111 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: twenty ten, and it seems like it's over now, which 112 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: lining up very well for the start of a new decade. 113 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: And so this whole franchise feels like it's at a crossroads. 114 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: You can take it as a positive because I do 115 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of talent on this roster. They 116 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: could make a fantastic higher You've got a quarterback that 117 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: wins games, You've won a playoff game with him. I 118 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: think there's all the reason in the world to think 119 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: that this could trend upward. We've also just gotten done 120 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: with a season where a team with talent just couldn't 121 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: get it together and couldn't make the playoffs. So success 122 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: is never guaranteed in this league, and if you want 123 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: to look at it as a negative, that's kind of scary. 124 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: If they bungle this, it could be the start of 125 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: a downward trend and all of a sudden, you're good 126 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: young players are good old players or not good old players, 127 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: and you're sitting there thinking about the glory days where 128 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: they were a Dez catch away from the NFC title 129 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: game or etc. I choose to be optimistic because I 130 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: believe in the talent on this team, and I trust 131 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: the jones is to make the right higher when that 132 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: finally happens. But it's just, you know, we're here on 133 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: New Year's even I just feel like we're at a 134 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: big crossroads where it could go in a really really 135 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: good direction or a not so good direction. All right, 136 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: So here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna dive into this. 137 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: You got anything else. I mean, honestly, if I had to, 138 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: if I had to say what my thoughts are right 139 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: now on this team, it would be I'm a little 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: confused and uncertain. That's the best way to put it, 141 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: because I look at this team and I really do 142 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: believe they got a lot of talent. But there's nothing 143 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: that will corroborate that for me right now, because what 144 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: I've seen from this team this season suggests that maybe 145 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: some of the people I thought were really talented aren't 146 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: as talented or they weren't being put in the right position. 147 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: And that's what I don't know. That's the part that 148 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: makes me really just I really don't know what to 149 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: think of this team right now. I'm interested to see 150 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: if and when they make this move and they get 151 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: a whole new let's let's say it's one new head 152 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: coach or a whole new coaching staff, or whatever they do. 153 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how the team performs next year 154 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: because that'll tell me a lot about this year. So 155 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm deferring my opinion on this team until I see 156 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: next year's team and how they perform, and that will 157 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: tell me what I need to know about this final 158 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: season of this decade. All right, so let's jump in. 159 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: Here's I want to do. I want to go through 160 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: the roster of all the guys that are going to 161 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: be unrestricted free agents. I have three categories. I want 162 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,119 Speaker 1: you to put them in for me. There is the 163 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: priority that means that Cowboys should do whatever they need 164 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: to do to get this guy resigned. There are the 165 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: guys that if it works, if you can get a 166 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: deal that works for both sides, make the right amount 167 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: of money, that's where I want this guy to be. 168 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: And then they're the guys just let them walk. It's 169 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: all good. We don't. We don't. We can move on. 170 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: We can find barel talent. We should find better talent 171 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: than what this guy presents. What was the mental category? 172 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. If it works so I get money, right, yeah, 173 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: and we stick, then we do make the deal. So 174 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: let's start with the one. We didn't do really good 175 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: last year at this I can't remember how to within 176 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: a free agency. Oh, I can't remember how the show went. 177 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: I know we did this last year. Remember this year? 178 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's start with the big one. Obviously, Dak Prescott, 179 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: tell me whether you think he's a priority, if it's 180 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: if the money works, or if you should let him walk. 181 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: I think he's a priority. I agree, I mean, obviously 182 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: it's if it works. I mean, but yeah, I guess 183 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: he's the priority, but it better work finance. Its kind 184 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: of both, right, yeah, I mean I don't know if 185 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna I mean, if they play hardball here, 186 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: if they're gonna just let him walk, but I probably, 187 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: I mean, they can always franchise him if they have to, 188 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: so that that's that's what they have in their back pocket. 189 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: And you can throw I mean, if it works, as 190 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: always part of it, because I mean I don't want 191 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: to give up the farm. I don't want to give 192 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott whatever he wants. If his people want forty 193 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: million dollars a year, I don't like that, Yeah, and 194 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: that's why I won't be surprised if this draws out. 195 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: But I think he's a good quarterback. I do think 196 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: he took a step forward this year. Not as far 197 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: forward as you would prefer, but I mean, I think 198 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: you can accomplish your goals with him as the quarterback, 199 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: and and once you sign him, it'll all fall into place. 200 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: He won't be the highest paid, YadA YadA, all that 201 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: stuff we've talked about, and it's too hard to start 202 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: over really with another quarterback. I think I think he's 203 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: good enough. With some guys around him, then he can 204 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: take this team where they want to go. So all right, 205 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: let's go to Tavon Austin wide receiver already, lad block, 206 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: Bye bye bye everybody. Yes, you should have been gone 207 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: earlier in the season. I think they didn't even use 208 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: him till the end of the games anyway. I just 209 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: I don't think he brought anything that you didn't have 210 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: in your other receivers you can't get from other guys 211 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: coming in this year. Does that does that turn into 212 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: a position now that you have to fill because he 213 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: had a role on this team. Is that now turn 214 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: into a guy? You got it? Because you got a 215 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: lot of and a growing list of people that you're 216 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: a roles you're gonna have to replace. You have to 217 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: fill it. But I just assume you can find a 218 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: fifth receiver and punt returner without I mean, you don't 219 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: have to spend this crazy capital to accomplish that fifth 220 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: receiver or whatever he is fourth for where you want. 221 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: It's like, what, what nothings like that? I don't I 222 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: didn't see that first, but go ahead, Oh it looked 223 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: like wow, Like no, I was just gonna say what. 224 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. Whatever coaching staff that comes in here, 225 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: what's gonna be their opinion? Because with Tavon Austin, I 226 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: feel like with different coaches, every coach thinks that they 227 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: can make and take Tavon Austin's talent and make it 228 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: work on the field, and it just has not worked 229 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: anywhere where he's been. But every coach thinks he can 230 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: they can turn him into something better. And by the way, 231 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: he has some skills that makes a coach think I 232 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: can get get out of him right because he can run. 233 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: We know that he can run, and so there might 234 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: be a coach that's out there and says, hey, give 235 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: me a year with that guy. I think I can 236 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: do something. But there was a coach that said no, 237 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: thank you, and that was Sean mcvagh. I mean once 238 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: he get jumped in and saw him for a little 239 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: bit and I said, oh, we don't need that guy. 240 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: I feel dumb for not even saying this at the start. 241 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard can do everything. Tavon Austin can. Good point 242 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: I and it's not up to me, but I would 243 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: have Tony spend the whole offseason working on fielding punts. 244 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: Why can't he do that? Yeah, So, actually, like the 245 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: way runs in that kind of stary, I think he'd 246 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: be really absolutely all right, let's jump act. Let's take 247 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: our first break. When we come back, we'll talk a 248 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: little bit more about another wide receiver, Randall cop that 249 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: won't come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 250 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: I'm Jay Novachik, former tight end for the Dallas Cowboys 251 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: back in the day. I was a guy who always 252 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: got the tough yards, and that's why I run with 253 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: John Deer today. In fact, I have a John Dear 254 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: three zero twenty five E tractor that can handle any 255 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: yard work I need to do, even the tough yards 256 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: way out back. 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It is the 282 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: second segment of the Break Life in the s WBC 283 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: mortgage studios at the Star, we're talking about unrestricted free agents. 284 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: We've gone for a few We're going to get back 285 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: into a conversation on the wide receivers Randall cop So 286 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: your priority is a guy they'd bring back the works 287 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: or you just let him walk if it makes sense. 288 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: I would bring him back, preferably on a similar deal 289 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: to the one he signed this year. One preferably no 290 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: more than one, maybe two years, not a lot of money. UM, 291 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: I thought he worked in this offense. I thought he 292 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: left a lot of players on the field. Him and 293 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: Dad couldn't ever seem to get on the same page. 294 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: You know, it seemed like he had a drop, a 295 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: key drop in every second or third game. But I 296 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: do think he was a good player, and I think 297 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: he's a good locker room dude. So if it with 298 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: all that, I mean, I would also I'd be open 299 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: to drafting a slot receiver too, that's fine, but if 300 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: it could be done for a good price, I'd before it. 301 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: Now the big one Marii Cooper. I we feel about 302 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: a Marik Cooper. He's a priority. He got because I 303 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: think that I'll just say this real quick before you 304 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: get to that. I think before the last few games 305 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: of the season, I think this would have been a 306 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: no brainer. He's a priority. Of course, he's a priority, 307 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: and it seemed like it seemed like as those last 308 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: few games played out, I think that seemed to change 309 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: for some people. So where do you fall at this 310 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: point after what you saw towards the end of the season. 311 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: I still think he's a priority. I know that he 312 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: had some whether that's drops or they didn't have him 313 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: to feel for whatever reason, he wasn't performing near as 314 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: well as he normally does the end of the season. 315 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: I also don't think he's fully healthy. Clearly, he was 316 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: healthy enough to be out there the trainers would have 317 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: put him ou there. He would have put himself out there. 318 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: He's had so many lower body injuries that I don't 319 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: think he's fully healthy, and I'm not sure how much 320 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: of that pays into it, But I still think he's 321 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: a priority. We know what he's capable of. When he's 322 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: on the feel he's even a decoy. I like him 323 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: opposite of Gallup. He needs to be eating some meat 324 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: and this he he I did not notice. Let me explain. 325 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: He became a vegetarian and a while back before this season, 326 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: talked to him about it. In the off season, Yeah, 327 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: I get it. In the off season, I was talking 328 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: to one of my friends I used to be one 329 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: of the nutritionists here, and she was kind of explaining. 330 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, what are your thoughts on this, And she's like, well, 331 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: there are very biased opinions and this and that, but 332 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: some studies have shown that that kind of can affect 333 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: as far as injury. It can make your body be 334 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: prone to more injuries when you're not in taking protein 335 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: the way that it should be taken. So if he's 336 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: not replacing it with the right kinds of proteins or 337 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: the right amount of proteins, I am not an nutritionist. 338 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not a trainer, so I don't 339 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: know about any of that. But you know, when you're 340 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: trying to make sense as to why all these different 341 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: injuries that he's gone through this season, I'm like, Okay, well, 342 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: maybe switch up the diet and try some meat and 343 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: see how that works. But again, I'm not a professional 344 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: on that, but I just my thoughts have kind of 345 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: changed as far as him bringing him back. For me, 346 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: it would be if it works with the money and 347 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: all that, because I don't feel comfortable with the injuries. 348 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable having getting a great player for 349 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: half of the games and then not so much for 350 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: the other half of the game when we play away 351 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: from home. I don't know why that was. How was 352 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: he playing last year when we had the like it 353 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: games away? It goes back to last year. It wasn't 354 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: home splits or it's still it's weird how I don't 355 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: get it. But if the money is good, then why 356 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: not the other wife is something crazy? Then I'm like, Okay, 357 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: maybe not okay. I think he's a better candidate for 358 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: the franchise tag or transition just because there's so many 359 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: question marks still and even if you can't do that, 360 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: then I would. I would sign him to maybe three 361 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: year deal and and hopefully that you know, just because 362 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: you're you're still trying to evaluate him. But he is 363 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: a guy you invested your first round draft pick in, 364 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: and you know it's hard to let him go. But 365 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: you know Danny's point about him being hurt, he actually 366 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: said yesterday he felt better the last day games in 367 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: the first eight games and he played, you know, he 368 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: didn't play as well down the stretch as he did early, 369 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: so it's hard to tell. He has said some things 370 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: about he knows the left plays on the table and 371 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: he wants to you know, get better next year and 372 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: all that. But you know, I would probably sign him, 373 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: but I think getting Dack done as a as a 374 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: long term deal is important to lower that value so 375 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: you can maybe do a franchise tag with him. It's 376 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: a good I'm glad you brought that up, because it's 377 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: a good guess that whoever the Jones is hired to 378 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: be the next coach is they're not going to do 379 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: it without that person signing off on Dak like that. 380 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: I would guess the next coaches and be like yeah, 381 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm happy to work with Dak. Well, let's go forward 382 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: with Dak. Will that be the case for Mari Cooper? 383 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: And I only wonder that because it was just a 384 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: year ago that a new coach in Oakland came in 385 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: and was like, I don't need this guy, I don't 386 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: want him. Let's send him somewhere for a first round pick. 387 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: So what will the new regime think of Amri? Me personally, 388 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: I think he's worth resigning, and I know he was 389 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: if he on the road and he left plays on 390 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: the field. I get it had some bad games. I 391 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: like what he's about. I like his approach, I like 392 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: his presence in the locker room. He's made a ton 393 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: of big plays over a year and a half. So 394 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: I don't feel one hundred percent great about it. I 395 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: understand the concerns. I think I'd still do it, but 396 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: I am cure is what a new coaching staff will 397 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: see in him, because it was just a year ago 398 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: that a new coaching staff didn't see it see here 399 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: he would be. My challenge with those who wouldn't think 400 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: of a Mari as a as a priority is when 401 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: you look around the NFL, there may be there maybe 402 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: three guys around the NFL, two or three guys that 403 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: are wide receivers at every single game are gonna be 404 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: killers like they're every single game. Michael Thomas is the 405 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 1: one that pops to mind. There are on a lot 406 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: of others Hopkins. Hopkins is like that, but there aren't 407 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: many there. And so when you start, when we start, 408 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: kind of, I think, I think a Mari to some 409 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: degree can become a victim of us only watching him, 410 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: like we we focus every game, we watch him, and 411 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: so we know he's good in this game and in 412 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: this game that doesn't quite show up, and then this 413 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: game is really good and in this game not so much. 414 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: But I think that happens around the NFL, and and 415 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,239 Speaker 1: I you know, I don't want to like it too 416 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: much to fantasy football, But if you play fantasy football, 417 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: you'll know whids there's a hard position to every week 418 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: be able to rely on because around the league there 419 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: are very few of those guys that are every single 420 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: week putting up really great numbers. And I think that's 421 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: the part you have to put into context. If you're 422 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: gonna let him walk, can you replace what he's doing 423 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: on those great days with somebody that's going to be 424 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: consistent like that all year. That is, well, his contract 425 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: needs to reflect that then, you know, And does his 426 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: agent feel the same way do the Cowboys? But if 427 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: he is one of those guys like and it's those 428 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: top two guys that are every week and he's just 429 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: below those guys, then that's probably where he should be slotted, right, 430 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: Julio too, Sorry, but that's the Julio Julio. Honestly, Julio 431 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: is not a guy's every week either. Like Julio asked 432 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: some weeks, where he's got that three catch for thirty 433 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: yards date to the semantics of it, it's not a 434 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: long it's not it's nice. Um, I'm I'm with you, 435 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: and that's And the other thing is he is the 436 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: rare receiver who is not going to be an issue 437 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: if the team is winning games. Now we've seen that, 438 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: like he'll he can go one for nine team or 439 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: even do an offer and if they win, I really 440 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to bother him. That is an 441 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: unusual and I think a valuable attitude and I know 442 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: where you're going because that kind of with you on 443 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: that everything that goes up, it also comes down the 444 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: problem too, is that when things are going the other way, 445 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: does he have a problem with that as well? Sure? 446 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: And and all you're going off is a perception of 447 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: what you think when they win and he doesn't play well, 448 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: so you're kind of like, I think he's okay with that. 449 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: And then all I'm going is is a perception of 450 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: when they lose and he doesn't play well. I think 451 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: he might be okay with that too. The second half 452 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: of the Eagles game weighs almost as heavily as all 453 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: of the good stuff. Like, that's how troubling it was. 454 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: Where are you? Yeah? Yeah, which I don't have a 455 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: good answer for it, but there's enough good stuff, and 456 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: it's it's the same thing as Dak where I'm like, 457 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: do I want to give this guy twenty one million 458 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: a year? Not really, Like if that's what he's asking for, 459 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: then it could be a bit of a fight, But yeah, yeah, 460 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 1: I'd like to think you could slot him in somewhere 461 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: less expensive and everybody can be happy. Right, we'll see 462 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: in his words said it yesterday, I mean he said it. 463 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: He said he didn't have he didn't didn't play as well, 464 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: and he left a lot of things, you know, out 465 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: there on the field, so you know when when you're 466 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: going into the negotiating table there, I mean I think 467 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: that you say you can say that. I mean I 468 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: think he went down last year as far as where 469 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: he was when the season started in training camp. I 470 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: think his numbers now, I think guys have elevated over him. 471 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a top five receiver. I 472 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: think he's maybe in that next class from six to ten. 473 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: That's probably where Dak is as well. But what you're 474 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: paying for isn't where they rank, it's where they rank 475 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: relative to their their age and what they're going to do. Yep. 476 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: I just wanted to add something else real quick. And 477 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: it might not matter matter depending on what happens within 478 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: the staff, But I have heard within the last few 479 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: months of the season people questioning his toughness on the 480 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: field off the field, and not to say that he's 481 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: not a talented player, but being tough as far as 482 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: like maybe if it's hurting here, okay, can that injury? 483 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: Can you still play with that injury? Or just being like, no, man, 484 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: this really hurts now, I'm good. Things like that that 485 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: I've kind of heard from people that work closely with 486 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: him and it. I don't know, those things do affect 487 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: what happens over on that side when you're having meetings 488 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: and having game days. I mean, I use and the 489 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: whole question, what was it that one game where we 490 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: were talking about whether they should have been on the field. 491 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: Was that in Philadelphia? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, where it's like, okay, 492 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: should he be talking to Kellen Moore and being like, no, man, 493 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: like put me out there. I need to be out 494 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: there or just going out there exactly literally I'm going in. 495 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: But more on the injuries, not the philip game, because 496 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: I think that was a whole list of whatever reasons 497 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: why they I'm out there, but for injuries. I wonder 498 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: not this could it could not be true, But I 499 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: wonder if how much it's like it's painful I'm going 500 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: to contract year, Do I really want to push the 501 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: pain that I'm feeling if I may or may not 502 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: be here? But and that, but and it might not 503 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: be fair because players got to look out for themselves, 504 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: but that stuff weighs heavily in front of I mean, 505 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: maybe that was something that we saw this year with that. Yeah, 506 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: coaches give that feedback though, and I mean, it is 507 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: what it is like it's it's a tough balance between 508 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: looking out for yourself and looking out for the team, 509 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: and it's never gonna weigh evenly depending on who you're 510 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: talking to. You know, I know that you're going through 511 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: players and then we're going to go to coaches. But 512 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: the thing about it is is that this goes hand 513 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: in hand. And I think when you're looking at coaches 514 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: with expiring contracts, um, Sanjay Law is not on that list. 515 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: But I don't think Sanjay Law will be back next 516 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: year as the wide receivers coach. And so that being said, 517 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: I think, you know, you do look at the receivers Cooper, 518 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: maybe cob and and wonder maybe you know, with with 519 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: a change there, that that might you know, maybe we'll 520 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: bring Cooper back and it's got a different guy, maybe 521 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: somebody that works better with them. I don't know, but 522 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: from everything we're hearing, don't think Sanjay Law will we'll 523 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: be back. Is for maybe that helps what you're saying. Yeah, 524 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: you're you're trying different things. It's still relatively new players, 525 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: a year and a half that you've had Cooper here, 526 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: and I believe this Sanjay's second year. Yeah, Okay, So 527 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: that's the only coaches he knows here. Maybe you know, 528 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: just trying different things with him. Which I'm not trying 529 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: to torpedo your game because I think it's fun. But 530 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: like a whole new coaching staff, which it'll be mostly new, 531 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: if not completely new, Like they'll have different opinions on 532 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: all of these guys. You mean they're not going to 533 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: listen and hear what we have to say. They're always 534 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna color, They're gonna use theening. Oh they're listening. 535 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: All right, let's take our final bike, will come back. 536 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: We may not be able to get to all these guys, 537 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna see how many more we can get to 538 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: light down. We'll be right back into the Dallas Cowboys 539 00:26:48,440 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: that come radio ready? Okay? 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Limited time offer back to the break final 570 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: segment of the Breaklock f s WBC Mortgage Studios at 571 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: the Star War talking understricted free agents, dext on our list. 572 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't even know that he wants to be back, 573 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: but we need to, I guess, to talk about it. 574 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: Jason Witten is an understricted free agent. What happens with him? 575 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: Is he walking away? At this point? I think he 576 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: walks away. I think he's made that quite clear to 577 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: hang up the cleat for good. It really round around 578 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: the stadium. Did laugh clear he had Our photographer Jeremiah 579 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: takes some photos of him and Sean Leech. I mean, 580 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: maybe you do that just in case, but I don't know. 581 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: Super emotional. Seems like the writings on the wall. You 582 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: think he's having some interviews. I think he wants to 583 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: be back, but I don't think he wants to play anymore. 584 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: I think he wants to be the head coach of 585 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I don't head coach, isn't I always thinking? 586 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean, isn't nuss Meyer's contract up? Isn't he one 587 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: of the coaches? One of the coaches us on the list? 588 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: The tight ends coach? So you know you want to 589 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: make a four A into coaching. Maybe I don't know, 590 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: you look like that. I think that's more likely, think 591 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: that's what he wants, more likely, more likely for people 592 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: to accept. Not for him. He's a pole vaulter. Say, 593 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm he's just gonna go right over the crowd. What 594 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: Romo did. That's what he did in Monday Night Football. 595 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: We're not looking to work, not Dan Campbell and this 596 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: thing up the ranks like that. I mean, look, I 597 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: mean that would be wild. It would be wild, That's what. 598 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: And I don't even think that's the smart play for him, 599 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: I really don't. I think it's smarter to get in there, 600 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, learning and start figuring it out. Like if 601 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: you get yourself with a really good head coaches, you're 602 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: handing the dirt, you know, Like if if Jason Garrett 603 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: would have never been the offensive coordinator here ever, just 604 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: never coached here or whatever. And then you ask Cowboy 605 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: fans what do you think of Garrett? And like, oh man, 606 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: one of the best games ever won, the Thanksgiving Day Game. 607 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. It was good, backup solid. That's it. 608 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: Like that's there now, it's like, what's Garrett? Just like yeah, 609 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, that's all it is. And I'd hate for 610 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: that to happen to Witton, where like in five or 611 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: six years, like what do people think of Witten? Like, 612 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: who's a good player but couldn't coach? You couldn't you 613 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, but you gotta give yourself 614 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: the best chance to be success one. To me, the 615 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: best chance to be successful is not jumping into something 616 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: that you don't really know well enough to be able 617 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: to be your most give yourself the best chance. I 618 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: think Witten. Witten's also on a level where like let's 619 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: say he became the head coach and sucked. People wouldn't 620 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: be happy about it, but like they're gonna prop up 621 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: the stuff that they loved and not the stuff they like. 622 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: Nobody they'll forget about that. Nobody talks about Wizards, Jordan 623 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: or Birmingham Barons Jordan. Nobody talks about I'm sure there was, Like, 624 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: what's Gretzky a coach? He probably sucked at coaching. I 625 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: don't know, Like nobody talks about that stuff. It's like time. Yeah, 626 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna say Larry Bird's car. She was a 627 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: top one hundred player on that list and he was 628 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: a coach twice for the Raiders. Witten has reached a 629 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: level where like if he was a disastrous coach, like 630 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: people would remember it, but they'll just choose to hold 631 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: on to what they like. Yeah, which, but I agree. 632 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no precedent for that in football. I know, 633 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr cool, I get it. In basketball, it happens 634 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: all the time. The this thing I can think of 635 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: as like Mike Vrabel and even he had to start, 636 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: he was like the linebackers coach at Ohio State. It 637 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: would just be crazy for me to think that he 638 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: would go from playing to head coaching. That's nuts, big jump. 639 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: It's a huge jump. All right, Let's jump to Joe Looney. 640 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: You guys think about Joe Looney, got a little chance 641 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: to play there towards the end of the year. Can 642 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: bring him back. I have my opinion. I don't think 643 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: it matches what will happen. I would say, if it works, 644 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: keep him because I think he's proven that he is 645 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: valuable on that offensive line and he can play consistently 646 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: in multiple positions. He filled in for Frederick last year, 647 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: he filled in when Sue Philo was filling in for Williams. 648 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: He has a great personality. I don't know that they 649 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: will he will be one of the guys they pay 650 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: just because they've been drafting offensive lineman. I think kind 651 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: of have something else in mind. I would pay him 652 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: if it works. I don't think that all. I don't 653 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: wonder like I could see Joe Looney is almost an 654 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: LP lattice or just like keep re upping it because 655 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: I don't think there's going to be a super crazy 656 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: market for him. He feels a very valuable role. Obviously, 657 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: the chemistry and locker room aspect of it speaks for himself. 658 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: And I don't mean to throw shade at Joe, like 659 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a competitor and he takes pride in 660 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: his work, but like I think he's happy with his 661 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: role on this team, Like he's kind of like a 662 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: you think I think so or he's already re upped once, 663 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: like he had, his contract ran out and he came 664 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: back to this great line, knowing that he probably didn't 665 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: have a sure fire starting role, but he came back anyway, 666 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: and I mean it worked out. He got to start 667 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: for a season. I just I think he likes this 668 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: community of this offensive line, which if one thing is 669 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: not going to change, it's the offensive line. Those guys 670 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: are locked in. And so I could just see him 671 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: signing for I don't know, a handful of million dollars 672 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: and being the swing interior alignment. And I think he'd 673 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: be fine with that. But is he a priority? No pity. 674 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: I am making him, absolutely make him a little higher priority, 675 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: because think about like this, did Travis Frederick have a 676 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: great year, I mean much better? Next year? You pack him? 677 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: I do better? Well, what if he isn't? This coaching 678 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: staff right but you're stuck with him for a while. 679 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: Hold on, now, this coaching staff right now drafted him. 680 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: They love him, Okay, they've been through all this. They 681 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: saw the way he was two years ago or last 682 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: year and all that, and and it was hard for 683 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: him even if he wasn't as better, if it wasn't 684 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: better than than Looney're gonna you're gonna ride with him, 685 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: a new coaching staff, a new line, you know what. 686 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: They might have to play the better guy. And I 687 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: give myself more of an option to have a backup 688 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: center that I know in Joe Looney in case it 689 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,959 Speaker 1: doesn't work out. But Frederick, he's got four more years 690 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: on his deal, Okay they are he will be your 691 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: starter next year. No matter how he plays, He's going 692 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: to be your starter next year. I would suspect that's 693 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: probably true for the next couple of years, at least. 694 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that about I don't know. I don't 695 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: know if if, but I will say this. Listen to 696 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: Frederick yesterday, did you look like a guy that was 697 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: gonna be playing for four more years? I didn't talk 698 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: to him, so I don't know, but I'll take your 699 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: word for it. All I'm saying is is that you've 700 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: got a relatively cheap backup there. I would make him 701 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: a priority, bring him back, because you just never know 702 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: about any of those situations. And if he is better 703 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: than Frederick, well then I would I would at least 704 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: have him here they have. He has the flexibility, he 705 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: is a good player, He's a solid backup, and the 706 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: Cowboys have struggle in finding solid backups in the offensive line. 707 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: Not only that he is healthy, freaking all these all 708 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: line have struggles with back issues or whatever kind of 709 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: health issues. Surprisingly Joe Looney and knock On Wood. As 710 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: of right now, he has not been dealing with any 711 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: kind of injury. So he's like the full package of 712 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: what you want in a backup. My issue would still be, though, 713 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: My issue would still be I look at this offensive line, 714 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: and I think, right now, if the Cowboys are smart, 715 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: they start infusing some youth into it, and what I'm right, 716 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: and those guys are hurt. But but my point, I 717 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: get it. But I'm saying, I look at this, This 718 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: offensive line is an aging offensive line, and we saw 719 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: a clear step back this year in the play of 720 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: the guys that were the studs on this offensive line. 721 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: The way I look at that with Frederick, I think 722 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: it's a little different because I was always under the 723 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: belief because of the syndrome that he had and everybody 724 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: that had had that, that had played, Mark Schlereth being 725 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: the one I was mentioning. He said that first year 726 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: it was bad for him. He said the second year 727 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: was the year when he got his shrink back and 728 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: he really was able to play at the level he'd 729 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: played before. So my expectation always was Frederick will be 730 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: better the second year than he was the first year. 731 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: I don't think he was great this year. He was Okay. 732 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: I think it'll be better than that next year. But 733 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: what we've seen from Tyring and what we've seen from 734 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: Zach makes me start to get a little bit like, Okay, 735 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: you've built this thing around those guys. If they continue, 736 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: but they're going to continue to age, if the injuries 737 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: continue to be a problem, you better have some options 738 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: behind them. And it's not gonna be good enough to 739 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: just say, well, we got this other guy, that's kind 740 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: of this guy that's a veteran guy. We can just 741 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 1: kind of throw. That's good, but it ain't a long 742 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: term fix. I think they need to be thinking, how 743 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: are we developing young talent on the offensive line so 744 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 1: that if we get into a pitch where it literally 745 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: is now these guys are just so old and so 746 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: banged up, we got actually replaced there. You better not. 747 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: You better have some replacement options. You're lumping your problems 748 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: in together when they're separate things though, like you have 749 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: a long term you've got long term things at guard 750 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: and you've got Connor McGovern and Connor Williams, and ye, 751 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: yes you do. You've got connormc governed for three more. 752 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: Here you're questioning that like that with them. But the 753 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: higher that that your voice goes, the more that you're like, 754 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: you know what, bring Joe Looney back, because that they 755 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: did try that. If both McGovern and and uh Connor 756 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: Williams were like battling to get on the field and 757 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: he had all these guys, then you wouldn't even think 758 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: about Joe Looney. But let's not forget that, and I 759 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: think it can you know, it's been out there that 760 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: Looney's name was mentioned in some trade talks. The Cowboys 761 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: had no interest in letting him go. I think Lone 762 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: is a better center than he is a guard, So yes, 763 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: you're bringing him back as your backup center. I'm all 764 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: in on that. I think point Bill got to deal 765 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: with your guard position. I really do. I agree. I 766 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: would deal with my guard position by bringing Looney back 767 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: to be my third, second or third guy. Point being, 768 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: if you want to move Connor Williams to tackle or 769 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: draft to tackle. I'm all for it. I think that's 770 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: a great idea. That's a separate problem that that's got 771 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Joe. I would bring him back 772 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: if the price be a speed round. Guy, I say, 773 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: we're not You're We're bad at this. We're really bad 774 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: at this. All right, So give me, give me answer. 775 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: On Xavier stuel Philo, also an unrestricted free agent, probably 776 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 1: probably gonna have to let him go. Yeah, I hate 777 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: saying that because he's a great dude and he played 778 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: well when he got his opportunities. But for all the reasons, 779 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a crunch at some point. Yeah, And 780 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you got these other guys, you gotta think 781 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: that McGovern's going to be able to come back and 782 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: give you something there from a backup guard standpoint. So 783 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: all right, so here's the deal. There's no way we're 784 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: gonna get through all these defensive players. So here's I'm 785 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna talk about the specialists for the 786 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: Restless show, and then we'll move to defense next show. 787 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: As I said, all right, so let's talk about Kai 788 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: for Bath, I bring him back. If you know who 789 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: else is out there, I think i'd sign him yeah, yeah, 790 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: but I think they're also probably gonna do their due 791 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: diligence and see who else is available. I mean during 792 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: the season, I think they were kind of limited. He's 793 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: obviously kicked will while he's been here, but I don't 794 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily say my mind is locked in on 795 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: Kai format. They know who's out there right now. They've 796 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: looked at everybody who's ever kicked. They know who's out there. 797 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: So I would sign him, but I would bring in 798 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: another guy next year, like when you know, maybe a rookie, 799 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: a younger guy, and let him kicking out the off 800 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: season not really knowing who all's out there in the draft. Dave, 801 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: I'm sure will know this within the next month or so. 802 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: But would you ever go the route of drafting using 803 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: high draft no lateral I'm talking first three rounds. No no, no, 804 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: no no no no no no. I mean in Spanish, no, 805 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: it is. It is like the most. It's the second 806 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: most mental position behind quarterback. And I mean, I think 807 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: it's just screws with the guy's head when you say 808 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: that first. I think it's more than even quarterback. Whatever. Either, 809 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: Like I Roberroguyo was a kicker. You can't tell him 810 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: he just forgot how to kick, and it's because they 811 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: invested that in him. They're like, you better be awesome, 812 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: because we just will look like idiots. It's a terrible idea. 813 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: Even drafting even fifth or sixth round is kind of like, oh, 814 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: it's drafted a kicker drafted, Yeah, nothing more than a 815 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:22,479 Speaker 1: seventh round ever, yeah, like fantasy. Yeah, but I would 816 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: resign four Bath. My new thing is I'm just not 817 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: giving multi year deals to specialists anymore, because you don't 818 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: know when they're gonna lose it until you find a 819 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: good one. And then you're like, well, they want to 820 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: keep them. A couple of good ones, and neither one 821 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: of them looks great at I mean, Dan Bailey didn't 822 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: make it through his deal, and nobody's happy with the 823 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: job that Chris Jones is doing right now after several 824 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: years of him being awesome. I mean, and just you 825 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: should be churning that stuff all the time. And I 826 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: would if I can get four Bath on a one 827 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: year deal, that's great. I would still try to find 828 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 1: a rookie. They haven't looked at every kicker ever, because 829 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: nobody wants my guy. Cole Tracy from L a shoe. 830 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't understand it, but maybe they did look at him, 831 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 1: maybe and they just they never brought it good. They 832 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: never brought him in. I'm saying at maybe they've seen 833 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: tape and they're like, we're good. Find a rookie, like 834 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: bring three kickers to camp. I don't care. But even 835 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: if they get four bath back, I just churned that position. 836 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: I definitely would have an open competition this year. There's 837 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: no way I'm going in with just one guy. I 838 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: want everybody battling for it, and I I want to put 839 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: him as many stress tests as I possibly can to 840 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: see how they respond on What about punter, Yeah, definitely, 841 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 1: he's not an unrestricted free agent, but I will say that, Yeah, yeah, 842 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: he comes up in twenty twenty two, so he's got 843 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: two more years. But I do think that's a position 844 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: to cowboys need to think. I mean, he had an 845 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: eighteen yard punt the other day, Like, come on, you 846 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: know there's their high school kids doing better than and 847 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: that's my Like, that's a problem. We can argue our 848 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: opinions about all this, but like we all assume there 849 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: will be a new coaching staff in place sooner rather 850 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: than later, and they're gonna have all like they're gonna 851 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: go through and look at some guys that we might 852 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: see as that and be like, oh we're good. I 853 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: have fun on the the market, buddy, We're fine, right, 854 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: And they also know a lot about the other stuff 855 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: that we may not. That's what makes it interesting. Like 856 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: their priorities are could be vastly different than what we've 857 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 1: been used to for a decade. Yeah, talk about speed 858 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: round will In with the most probably the easiest one, 859 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: LP Latisore. Yeah, we're all good. If he wants to 860 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: come back. I mean, I feel like he's got to be. 861 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,959 Speaker 1: He's ready to retire. He's got to be reaching a point. 862 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if they if they're going to hand him 863 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: two million dollars to long snap, I assume that's pretty tough. 864 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: It is like until you forced me out of the door. 865 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: Its hellist right, he's doing his cookies from here. He 866 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: loves walking around with his cookies. He's good. He's gonna 867 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: come back. But like he's been doing it for fifteen years, 868 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: and I've got to assume he's made enough money that 869 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't need it anymore. No, but it mean, just 870 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: keep stacking chips. I mean because it sounds more fun 871 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: to sit around at your ranch. I don't know, you 872 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,760 Speaker 1: get to go to a game every week. You're playing 873 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: on an NFL feel, So if you like football, at 874 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 1: this point, you got to remember too, he's not just 875 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: snapping the ball. It's not just field goals because on 876 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: punts he has to run down fifty yards but they 877 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: can't hit him like I mean, no, I know, but 878 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,959 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, he's gotta even that. When he's getting 879 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: up there in age, he's still got to be able 880 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: to run down there, not be a liability, run down 881 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: there and make a play and not mean he's still 882 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: done that, not make a play. He's got to run 883 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: down Yeah, don't run down there. Well, you don't have 884 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: to run you don't have to run very far if 885 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: you're going eighteen yard punts, you know, like right there, 886 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: if he's if he's for it, I'm for it. I'm 887 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 1: just saying at some point he's gonna be like I'm okay, 888 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm riding off into the sunset. I just 889 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: know this. When you talk about long snappers, they're not 890 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: important until you don't have one, like I've seen when 891 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: this team didn't have one, and they were like, oh 892 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: my god, where every other snap is all over the place, 893 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: you know, so what's wrong? I'm seriously moving and move 894 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: the camera over. I'm not talking. I'm not trying it 895 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: all on, you know, seriously, I'm not trying to force 896 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 1: the guy out the door. I'm just saying this is this. 897 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he's right up there with Witten in terms 898 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: of like years of crude for the franchise. Like if 899 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: Witten retires, he could set the record. Right, this is 900 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 1: like you're he beat surpassed Witten for most games, right, 901 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,720 Speaker 1: but seasons Like Witten just set the record at sixteen, 902 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 1: did he not? Yeah? And and LP's not that far behind. 903 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: I don't think he'll say fifteen you say fifteen years, 904 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: just say who said that? So thought somebody city was fifteen. 905 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: I mean he came here, no. Five, So he's two 906 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: years behind Winton. No, no, No, I don't think he 907 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 1: cares about it either. I'm just saying at some point 908 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna be like enough is enough. Yeah, even if 909 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: he's only playing ten snaps a game, I agree with that. 910 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: I just don't know if it's now maybe, I don't know. 911 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: It seems like he's still relatively young guys. Money, it 912 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: really is. I appreciate you guys joining his schom which 913 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: you guys a happy new Year. You guys have a 914 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: safe and prosperous new year. Have fun night. We'll see 915 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: you guys on Monday. I'm sorry next week and I 916 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: don't know what day we're gonna be on yet, likely 917 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 1: gonna be Wednesdays, but we'll see about that. About that 918 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: emergence schedule, there will be not us, but there will 919 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: be a podcast that will be a grouping of different 920 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: people from different podcasts, so some of us may be 921 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: on it, not our targe group though. We're not gonna 922 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: do like you know, Friday when the news comes down. 923 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you never know. You never know, all right, 924 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: Price said you guys joining us for Nick even Dave 925 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 1: Helm and Abergarcia, Danny Serek. I am Derek Eagleton. 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