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Speaker 2: That's when Trump walked out, and just what an amazing

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Speaker 1: And we've got a lot more to cover on that, and.

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Speaker 3: Why don't we cover it with Jim Jordan, the longtime

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Speaker 3: representative from the fourth District of the Great State of Ohio,

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Speaker 3: also the chair of House Judiciary Committee, which will be

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Speaker 1: Jim, thanks for stopping by.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate it with you guys, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: I like that music coming that started your bumper music.

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Speaker 4: And then of course I loved when President Trump walked in.

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Speaker 1: All last night. I was actually doing.

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Speaker 4: A live hit oh No, and I turned and it unplugged,

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Speaker 1: Is amazing moment.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely where were you when you found out Trump got shot?

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Speaker 4: We just finished an event with some colleagues. I was

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Speaker 1: But amazing moment for the country. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It is a powerful, powerful moment. It was literally, don't

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Speaker 2: But he looked actually emotionally affected by the crowd last

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Speaker 4: So think about there's a there's a limited, finite number

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's going to be great on the campaign trail.

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Speaker 4: it's it's why President Trump's gonna be our next president.

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Speaker 1: For your time today, we really appreciate it. I know

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Speaker 1: you got to get going. Thank you Gay.

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Speaker 3: Once fighter, always a fighter. We appreciate your efforts.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for you. By the way, you got great guys.

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Speaker 4: Mcclint talk and Kylie are on our committee. Great guys,

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Speaker 4: great guys. We're talking about Amen to that, all right,

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Speaker 4: Thanks Jim. Great pleasure,