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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor

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Speaker 1: with your Steve Colburn back with us. He is a

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Speaker 1: chemist materials scientist twenty plus years experience in chemistry and nanotechnology.

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Speaker 1: Currently works in the area of carbon nanotubes with his

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Speaker 1: company dirtron Star Nanotechnology. Steve has analyzed several alleged alien

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Speaker 1: implants in recent years, worked with doctor Roger lear the

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Speaker 1: late Steve's research discovered that these objects contain carbon nanotubes

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Speaker 1: and other nanostructures, indicating that they were sophisticated nanodevices made

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Speaker 1: by a level of nanotechnology far beyond that of current

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Speaker 1: mainstream or earthly science. Think about that Steve was the

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Speaker 1: first researcher outside the government to make this incredible discovery. Steve,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. How have you been, I've been, Ray, George,

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Speaker 1: tell us a little. You had an implant removed by

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Speaker 1: doctor Roger Leard did and you yeah, I was patient

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Speaker 1: fifteen and his implant removal project. The aliens put an

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Speaker 1: implant in my left second toe and he removed it

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Speaker 1: about seven months later. How old were you when you

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Speaker 1: think they'd might have done this. That was back in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. I was, I was forty eight

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Speaker 1: years old. What was the episode? How how did this happen?

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Speaker 1: That's your mint call. Well, my wife had just had

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Speaker 1: given birth to our daughter a couple of months before,

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Speaker 1: and she was over at her parents' house. Her mom

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Speaker 1: was helping out with the baby. And then I stopped

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Speaker 1: over at our house to water the plants and do

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Speaker 1: going to spend the night over there. And I heard

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Speaker 1: some wrestling in the backyard and went out in the

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Speaker 1: backyard and found them two enormous raccoons in our avocado

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Speaker 1: tree eating avocados. And these were were big, I mean

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Speaker 1: they were. They were just astonished me the size of

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Speaker 1: the thing. So one was about about seventy pounds, at

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Speaker 1: the size of a of a husky dog something like that,

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Speaker 1: and you get them with somewhat smaller, maybe fifty pounds,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't even know they got that big. And

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Speaker 1: I fed the animals on cat food and observed them

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Speaker 1: for a while, and then got tired and went to bed.

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Speaker 1: And we had a lot of strange activity in the

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Speaker 1: house in the weeks prior to that, and I woke

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Speaker 1: of my head were kind of sore, you know. I

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Speaker 1: had a weird stinging pain and my left second toe,

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Speaker 1: and I knew that the aliens had just had a

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Speaker 1: strong gut feeling that the aliens had been there in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the night. And then I had two

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Speaker 1: more implants. What do you think they wanted with you,

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Speaker 1: stephen Um. I think they're putting in a They're putting

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Speaker 1: in an implant to monitor my bodily uh parameters. I

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Speaker 1: think that the almost to monitor body temperature, blood oxygenation

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Speaker 1: and things like that. Were they interested in what you

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Speaker 1: were working on? Perhaps, I'm not really sure. I know

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Speaker 1: that they want my help for installing equipment and helping

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Speaker 1: with medical procedures and things like that. I've remembered a

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Speaker 1: lot of it under hypnotic aggression. Later on, What did

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Speaker 1: our friend doctor Lear say about this, Well, he didn't

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Speaker 1: believe me at first. He thought that he thought that

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Speaker 1: I was some crank and um. But he gave me

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Speaker 1: a prescription to get the toe X ray and told

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Speaker 1: I was going to see something holding it up to

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Speaker 1: the light. But when I did, it was a life

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Speaker 1: changing event. Like I tell everybody, it's um it's um uh.

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Speaker 1: One thing to strongly suspect that something like this is

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Speaker 1: looks smaller on smaller on the X ray than it

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Speaker 1: was when when I was removed. Fascinating. Now, how did

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Speaker 1: you get involved in studying Mars. I've just been interested

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Speaker 1: really ties into the alien phenomenon because there's evidence of

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Speaker 1: past civilization there and that's the most earth like planets

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Speaker 1: in the Solar System. Tell us the kind of work

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Speaker 1: you've been doing about Mars, Steve, There's been a huge

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Speaker 1: Apparently the ground based astronomers Percival loll and VC Sliper

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, I've got the picture here. There's definitely trees

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Speaker 1: just vegetation life that's on Mars in your opinion? Another

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Speaker 1: there's apparently at least simple the life. There's been pictures

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Speaker 1: look like a statue head or space helmet UM or

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Speaker 1: something some artifact Chinese rover found some water on the Moon.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about Mars which was laden with

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Speaker 1: be a lot more water on Mars. There's there's still

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Speaker 1: it was the spirit rover was quite muddy, and NASA

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Speaker 1: And the tripe is that the Viking lenders detected humidity

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Speaker 1: where is it going to go at hundred percent humidity?

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Speaker 1: It's a lit'll evaporate and moral come in from the air,

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Speaker 1: um according to NASA at six to nine mill bars,

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Speaker 1: reactive Guess what about the canals again? That the Lowells

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Speaker 1: you know what these things are real? Um? Um, they've

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Speaker 1: been acting like uh personal lol, as a lunatic for

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Speaker 1: believing in that. He's not the only one that saw

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Speaker 1: him though. Um. Can they still be seen there? What's up?

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Speaker 1: Can they still be seen there? Oh? Yeah, Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: pictures from from orbit that that show them pretty clearly.

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Speaker 1: There's actually water seepages into the into the canals or

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Speaker 1: um whatever you want to call them. But yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: been used as an irrigation system at one time by

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Speaker 1: the inhabitants. What kind of other signs of past civilizations

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Speaker 1: might have been present on Mars? And what do you

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Speaker 1: Millions of years ago, Mars was was wetter, and there

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Speaker 1: That's that's the probability of the face on Mars and

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Speaker 1: the Sidonian region being just a trick of light and shadow,

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Speaker 1: like NASA says, is vanishingly small. The Biking some members

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Speaker 1: NASSAS so reluctant Steve to tell us about this stuff? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the reason is because um there's been the

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Speaker 1: UFO thing much more likely in the public mind. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And in terms of Mars, do you think it was

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Speaker 1: that there might still be population there. They came up

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Speaker 1: with an infrared photograph that showed what looked like an

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Speaker 1: inhabited at a very low population density, is my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Where the rest of the inhabitants goal all underground or

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Speaker 1: did they come here They probably died off. Mars was

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Speaker 1: relatively smooth. That the heavily crater side was the one

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Speaker 1: facing the explosion. As a scientist, what have your peers

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Speaker 1: and colleagues say about this? Well, I'm not a mainstream scientist.

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Speaker 1: I go where the data takes me, and I don't

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Speaker 1: just wantingly believe it's in the textbooks, and I take

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Speaker 1: and look at the evidence. In this case, photographs from

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Speaker 1: and then your best guess what's going on Mars right now? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think they're like I said, there's um there's some

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Speaker 1: a layer of photo looks like photosynthetic bacteria blue blue

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Speaker 1: green analogy. But it's also known as in some areas

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Speaker 1: on the river photographs these discoveries would be fantastics, do

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't they need to go public with Yeah? Well,

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Speaker 1: I wrote a report on Mars back in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three, after seeing the canals for myself and reading

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Speaker 1: up on all this and looking at the NASA data,

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Speaker 1: and I sent you a copy. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: photographs there. And one thing that that is really fiction

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Speaker 1: that they show the public a lot is this total

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Speaker 1: redded out sky version of Mars. The sky is actually

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Speaker 1: blue or gray, and it looks it looks more like

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Speaker 1: Arizona than what they show on the press release photos

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Speaker 1: of Mars. It's like they turned the red way, probably

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Speaker 1: not had all the green on the rocks. That is

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Speaker 1: fascinating to be sure, isn't it. Yeah, it's definitely really something.

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Speaker 1: Does any of this shock you? Oh? Yeah, chocked the

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Speaker 1: heck out of me. I was amazed that they were

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Speaker 1: distorting the facts to the sixth Con. I've been amazed

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Speaker 1: about a lot of a lot of things like that,

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Speaker 1: and looking into um space and the UFO thing in general.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Mars is the only planet outside of

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Speaker 1: Earth in our Solar System that might have been inhabited.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. There seems to be a cover up

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Speaker 1: going on about Venus too. I'm not sure I believe

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Speaker 1: the government's assertions that the surfaces nine hundred degrees fahrenheit

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Speaker 1: to me, And I think I find that strange that

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Speaker 1: there have been a dozen spacecrafts into Venus over the

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Speaker 1: last few decades, but there's very little data available about

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Speaker 1: Venus that's been sent to the public. But I just

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to believe on Venus. So Steve

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Speaker 1: Colburne with us, We're going to take go ahead, go ahead, Steven.

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Speaker 1: People back in the fifties just to think it was

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Speaker 1: some sort of a swamp on it that, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: the juries. The jury still out on that as far

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Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. Do you think our Mars rovers were

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Speaker 1: able to capture some of these pictures and strange things

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Speaker 1: and NASA just never gave them to us. They didn't

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Speaker 1: give some of them to us. But on another area,

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Speaker 1: they're just putting out thousands of photographs and you have

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Speaker 1: to wade through all the mundane photographs to get to

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Speaker 1: the good stuff. And I think part of the reason

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Speaker 1: that there was there were no Mars missions between nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy six, when biking landed and the next mission in

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Speaker 1: the mid nineties was because they wanted to wait until

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Speaker 1: image tampering, a computer technology had caught up sufficiently so

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Speaker 1: that they could they could airbrush it out any signs

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Speaker 1: of life or civilization. What do you think will happen

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Speaker 1: when we send astronauts up there? I think this is

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Speaker 1: all going to come to light. I think that that

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Speaker 1: they're going to have to admit it to the public.

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Speaker 1: And and that's a scientist that I talked to you.

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Speaker 1: Tho was introduced to me by Whitley Streeperum actually said

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Speaker 1: during an argument that we had over Mars and private

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Speaker 1: aerospace efforts, that that they had an agenda that says

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Speaker 1: an agenda. They released this stuff very slowly to the public.

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Speaker 1: He got so upset when I when I praised private

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Speaker 1: aerospace efforts for the I think he said some things

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Speaker 1: he shouldn't have said, yeah, or wasn't supposed to say.

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