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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys who have a noon game against the
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine Ers on Sunday. That means I
Speaker 1: gotta get out of the house, like nine thirty to
Speaker 1: get on down here for this game. So yeah, it
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a Sunday night game on NBC.
Speaker 1: You know, seven o'clock, waiting all day for Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Now it's get on up in the morning and get
Speaker 1: ready for a brunch kickoff game between the Cowboys at
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Maybe you're not bothered by it. Clearly
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith and the Cowboys not bothering him at all.
Speaker 1: As Jalen was asked about this, and he said, quote,
Speaker 1: if the owner ain't tripping, we good talking about being
Speaker 1: from prime time to the noon game and being flexed
Speaker 1: out four Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Cleveland and
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. Gentleman, I'm just gonna read to you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read to you what one gentleman told me. Okay,
Speaker 1: I asked. I asked a veteran, a person who's been
Speaker 1: around the Cowboys for a long time, knows Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: very well. And I sent I sit the same thing
Speaker 1: I said to you guys that I retweeted Twitter, and
Speaker 1: this person said, noon starts are the graveyard of mediocrity,
Speaker 1: the weekly home of the non contenders. The Cowboys have
Speaker 1: embraced their new identity sad thoughts. I'm gonna tell you what, man,
Speaker 1: you write it, But whoever told you that was right
Speaker 1: about the mediocracy thing? Because I tell you what. When
Speaker 1: I was in Jacksonville, that's all we had was twelve
Speaker 1: o'clock games. I mean, we scratched it. We clawed to
Speaker 1: try to get even the three o'clock afternoons start, and
Speaker 1: I think we had maybe two of those throughout my
Speaker 1: whole time down there in Jacksonville. So this is not
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys want to be. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: supposed to be America's team. This is supposed to be
Speaker 1: the ratings are supposed to be spiked when the Cowboys
Speaker 1: touched the field. But I mean, I guess, I guess
Speaker 1: the Lord's gone. I mean, when you go four and
Speaker 1: nine so far this season, I mean things start to
Speaker 1: get snatched away from you. Then now we got the
Speaker 1: Sunday Night getting pulled for Cleveland and New York game.
Speaker 1: I mean, how the Mighty have fallen? D Mac, How
Speaker 1: the Mighty have fallen? You know, listen, it's the first
Speaker 1: time Rights, it's a rough season. You don't have Dak.
Speaker 1: You know, your team's underperforming. In Cleveland, all of a
Speaker 1: sudden is playing well enough to be flexed on Sunday
Speaker 1: Night because this may be the first year they've been
Speaker 1: in the playoffs since since I don't know when, you know,
Speaker 1: So this is a really big game. I don't think
Speaker 1: this is something that will continue to happen to the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. I mean, this is this is one of
Speaker 1: the off years. So I think Jalen was okay with
Speaker 1: his response. Was I think worded wrong. But he should
Speaker 1: not be worried about being flexed to twelve o'clock now,
Speaker 1: he should be worried about playing the best football that
Speaker 1: he could play. I don't think it's that big of
Speaker 1: a deal. But you know, like NEWI said, it's never happened.
Speaker 1: So this is a sign that, you know, the same
Speaker 1: old stuff that happens with the Cowboys to where you
Speaker 1: can you can be below five hundred team and people
Speaker 1: still gonna watch and all that stuff. This may be
Speaker 1: changing so that this may be that little kicking the
Speaker 1: butt that we need, you know, to to get things
Speaker 1: right so we can stay in those promtime games. Here's
Speaker 1: my fault process. When I hear what Jalen says, and
Speaker 1: I'll repeat it. If the Yonner ain't tripping, we good.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was very wrong, but he said it all wrong.
Speaker 1: The thought process through the years has been, hey, forget
Speaker 1: the head coach, because when these guys have a direct
Speaker 1: line to Jerry, that's what they care about. Don't care
Speaker 1: what the head coach says. And this goes back to
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, who hated Chan Gailey's offense and was straight
Speaker 1: to the Jerry to get Jan Gailey gone. Dion Sanders
Speaker 1: had that pipeline, and Romo had that pipeline, And it
Speaker 1: just seems as though from what I'm reading from this
Speaker 1: with Jaylen Smith is say, hey man, you know, Jerry's cool.
Speaker 1: You know Jerry and I cool. I got my contract. Man.
Speaker 1: You don't forget it. No, no, man has some personal pride.
Speaker 1: Your season is so bad that the one network who
Speaker 1: always wants you on and said, yeah, man, we can't
Speaker 1: even put these dudes on. You're that bad. And you're like,
Speaker 1: hey man, it's cool, it's cool, it's down. What is
Speaker 1: this supposed to say? What? Like? What what would be
Speaker 1: your ideal response to that? To that question, the fact
Speaker 1: that they asked him to question anybody, but what would
Speaker 1: be your ideal response? He should have said. He should
Speaker 1: have said, you know what, you know, that's something I
Speaker 1: can't control. Unfocused on the game in San Francisco. That's
Speaker 1: what That's all he had to say. And let it go.
Speaker 1: Take that. I mean, what the guy over there talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, if he and I could pitch. I didn't
Speaker 1: see this, but I can picture how he handled it.
Speaker 1: I can see him just laughing about it. Hey, Well,
Speaker 1: look man, what Jerry said he ain't say, man, I
Speaker 1: ain't worried about it. Then, like that whole non chalant
Speaker 1: adtitude from one of your leaders is just something you
Speaker 1: can't have. I mean, and we wonder why the Cowboys
Speaker 1: a fourule nine right now, and we wonder why the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have one of the worst defenses in NFL history.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you got guys doing things like this,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just it ain't gonna work out. It's
Speaker 1: just not Is that? Is that? Is that an acceptable
Speaker 1: answer for you knew it? So here's more. I gonna
Speaker 1: give you more from Jalen Smith. This comes from Michael
Speaker 1: Gelkin o the Dallas Morning News. Jalen said, quote, Honestly,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that until now. My thoughts right now,
Speaker 1: this is my thoughts right off the top, is it's
Speaker 1: a business. I don't focus on what's happening in the future.
Speaker 1: I'm embracing each moment each day. So that was more
Speaker 1: from his thoughts about the Cowboys being moved from prime
Speaker 1: time with the forty nine er. But I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you my opinion. And I've seen this a lot longer
Speaker 1: than you guys, because I've covered this team going back
Speaker 1: to when Jimmy Johnson was head coach. Is this mentality
Speaker 1: of dudes thinking, hey man, I'm just I'm just taking
Speaker 1: whatever Jerry says. It's cool. I'll just play off that.
Speaker 1: And also this acceptance of hey man, we're at the
Speaker 1: twelve o'clock spot now, I mean, this is I remember
Speaker 1: years when the Cowboys may have hell he had, you know,
Speaker 1: one or two twelve o'clock starts. I remember when I
Speaker 1: had a new boss at TV and this guy had
Speaker 1: once worked in Minnesota, and he was trying to tell
Speaker 1: me that, hey, what you need to do is go
Speaker 1: to these games in the NFC East, fly home immediately
Speaker 1: after and come to the late show. And I had
Speaker 1: to explain to him, Dude, in Minnesota, you guys played
Speaker 1: a lot of noon games. This is the Cowboys. Most
Speaker 1: of the games are gonna start at three o'clock if
Speaker 1: it's not a seven o'clock. Can you know the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are America's team. They don't play a lot of protect
Speaker 1: game why because the networks want them on. The networks
Speaker 1: fight to keep them on. And when you get dropped
Speaker 1: down to this and you're just like, hey man, it's
Speaker 1: all good, it's cool. I just find that just like
Speaker 1: what this person said. This is accepting mediocrity, dandy, and
Speaker 1: that's how I feel about it. It should be accepting mediocrity. Listen,
Speaker 1: I feel you listen, And like I said, I think
Speaker 1: his response was off the beginning of it. Anyways, I
Speaker 1: like the second part that you read. I really don't.
Speaker 1: As a competitor and knowing some of these guys just
Speaker 1: just a little bit, I don't think that they're really
Speaker 1: accepting it. I mean, the question was asked, he started
Speaker 1: off wrong, he finished it right. I think that if
Speaker 1: it does still bother them to be flexed to twelve
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be losing and going four and nine
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So I don't think they're accepting.
Speaker 1: I think they want to be better. You know, sometimes
Speaker 1: it just doesn't show on the field. But I you know,
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not gonna put this against Jayalon Smith
Speaker 1: to say that he's accepting the fact that there four
Speaker 1: or nine he's collecting this check and that he's just
Speaker 1: gonna go on about his business because because Jerry say
Speaker 1: it's fine. Because one thing we do know new it
Speaker 1: Jerry is not okay with this. Well, it's it's interesting,
Speaker 1: so speaking of this game against the forty Nineers, in
Speaker 1: which the Niners are five and eight Cowboys or five
Speaker 1: nine San Francisco favorite in this football game by three. Defensively,
Speaker 1: what should the game plan be to stop this Niners
Speaker 1: football team and the witch that you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: match up against Kyle Shannahan, the head coach who calls
Speaker 1: a place, who's very good at it. Well, look, I
Speaker 1: think something that we're gonna that we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: do that we haven't done pretty much all season, and
Speaker 1: that's just played decent run defense. I mean, look, take
Speaker 1: a page out of Marry Nelly's book. Whatever you gotta do,
Speaker 1: get some stunting going on, get something to keep these
Speaker 1: line back is clear to where they can just go
Speaker 1: out there and make plays. Because we know Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: loves the run game and he's creative with it. And
Speaker 1: what did we see last time we went against a
Speaker 1: creative run team in Baltimore? They gash just with all
Speaker 1: those pulling guards, the ghosts, motions, the counter looks. That's
Speaker 1: all right up. Kyle Shanahan's allie. He's creative when it
Speaker 1: comes to the run game. And they got three running
Speaker 1: backs back there that can tote the rock, and you
Speaker 1: know that's all they're gonna do when it comes to
Speaker 1: this defense, because we haven't stopped it all years. So
Speaker 1: that if it's my game playing and I'm going out
Speaker 1: there with this Cowboys defense, I'm stacking the box. Man.
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. Either Mullins or Beth back there
Speaker 1: at quarterback. I know they got Auka or I'm sorry
Speaker 1: I butchered his name, but they got the right receiver
Speaker 1: over there, they got the rookie receiver a Yuk out there,
Speaker 1: they got Deepo Samuel. But I just don't trust the
Speaker 1: quarterback play. So I gotta stack the box because I
Speaker 1: know Kyle Shannonhame is gonna come with some type of
Speaker 1: creative run scheme to take advantage of our linebackers and
Speaker 1: try to confuse our linebackers and go out there and
Speaker 1: get big games. We have to stop the run if
Speaker 1: we won any part of winning this game. And that's
Speaker 1: just defensively. I mean another fact. We're talking about the
Speaker 1: offense another time, but defensively, we have got to stop
Speaker 1: the run or at least play okay run defense. Talk
Speaker 1: about talk about wishful thinking, all right, This is if
Speaker 1: you have to put out a game plan, like you said, Church,
Speaker 1: if you have to put one out, if you have
Speaker 1: to go into the lab and try to figure out
Speaker 1: something to do, you're going to say, yes, the same
Speaker 1: thing that we've been trying to get done for the
Speaker 1: first thirteen weeks of the season. Stop the run, dude.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to happen. Absolutely not. Like you said.
Speaker 1: This is one of the most creative running the tacks
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's going to find their way to
Speaker 1: maximize any advantage that he has, and he's going to
Speaker 1: take advantage of the fact that we have not been
Speaker 1: able to stop the run. Inside. Our linebackers are catching
Speaker 1: on blocks in their eyes, they're seeing too much, so
Speaker 1: they're going this way and chasing stuff that they shouldn't
Speaker 1: be chasing. They're going to take advantage of all that,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately our secondary really hasn't played enough to stop
Speaker 1: even second to thirteen or quarterback. So it's going to
Speaker 1: be a run day for us. So the offense is
Speaker 1: going to have to save us. That's that's my offices,
Speaker 1: that's my defensive game plan. Going there and talk to
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton and Kellen Moore and say, look, bro, y'all. Y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all do what y'all can to keep us off the field.
Speaker 1: And I think I think we can. We can make
Speaker 1: a couple of big, big plays for y'all because they
Speaker 1: have been able to turn the ball over for the
Speaker 1: last few weeks. So will they put three linebackers on
Speaker 1: the football field something they didn't do against the Ravens? Yes,
Speaker 1: I would. I mean, look at me. I would. I
Speaker 1: put I put Jal, and I put LV out there,
Speaker 1: and I put Sean Lee out there. I mean, just
Speaker 1: for the simple fact that if any of those linebackers
Speaker 1: can dissect or run and try to help this this
Speaker 1: defense going forward, it's Sean Lee. I mean he might
Speaker 1: not have the physical attributes to go out there and
Speaker 1: be a game destructor like he used to be in
Speaker 1: the past, but he can at least get these linebackers
Speaker 1: lined up and going in the right direction, because we're
Speaker 1: gonna need to. I mean, we've seen what happens when
Speaker 1: these guys are going out there reading their keys. They're
Speaker 1: looking at way too much. And when you and Danny
Speaker 1: said it, when you look at a lot, you see
Speaker 1: a little, and when you see a little, you see
Speaker 1: a lot, And That's what I think Sean Lee can
Speaker 1: provide with this linebacking corps and hopefully just hopefully go
Speaker 1: out there and do something against the run. Just don't
Speaker 1: let a guy coming off the street rush for a
Speaker 1: hundred yards like we did against Cleveland and like we
Speaker 1: did against all these other teams. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: it's hard come we just we just talked about Shanahan
Speaker 1: being one of the most creative guys when it comes
Speaker 1: to call it plays. If you plan on going out
Speaker 1: there and running your base package for the entire game,
Speaker 1: you are going to get ran out of the stadium.
Speaker 1: I can get first second down. Where do they come
Speaker 1: out of What did they say, Hey, we're gonna maximize
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, we're gonna take a man
Speaker 1: into LV and jayals Smith. We're gonna come out an
Speaker 1: eleven personnel and we're still gonna run power, We're still
Speaker 1: gonna run counter, We're still gonna run zone read. Are
Speaker 1: you putting your three linebackers out there when they personnel
Speaker 1: on first second down? I could live with with Mullins
Speaker 1: and better trying to beat us with our arm I
Speaker 1: can live with that. If they go out there and
Speaker 1: throw for three hundred and beat us because we're in
Speaker 1: base and they're in the eleven person up. I can
Speaker 1: live with that, But if we go out there and
Speaker 1: base and they're still just trumping going down the field
Speaker 1: on us, I mean, it's that's disheartening. That's like a
Speaker 1: stab in the heart right there. So I can live
Speaker 1: with the throwing, but I just can't. I can't do
Speaker 1: running up the gut for three hundred some yards and
Speaker 1: I just can't do it. You hear this, do it?
Speaker 1: You hear this. We've been known to give up the
Speaker 1: run for the entire season, so this week we'd rather
Speaker 1: stop the run and let Nick Mullins beat us. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, listen, when you stop to run all year,
Speaker 1: so why don't we figure out how to do what
Speaker 1: we've been able to do sometimes turn the ball over
Speaker 1: and cover some of these receivers because you listen. Like
Speaker 1: I said, wishful thinking for you to be able to
Speaker 1: think that you're gonna be able to turn into a
Speaker 1: run stopping team this week against a team that knows
Speaker 1: they're on their backum quarterbacks, so they have to run
Speaker 1: the ball. So here's a crazy question, because you guys
Speaker 1: mentioned base defense, do you think they'll start tak Lawrence
Speaker 1: this week because when they ran out based defense last
Speaker 1: week against Cincinnati, he had to run off the field
Speaker 1: because he says he's not a a the base defense man.
Speaker 1: They better start d law I'll tell you that right now.
Speaker 1: He's been the most consistent player of these past couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. He sparked the whole defenses takeaways last week
Speaker 1: by punching the ball out. He's your energy player, he's
Speaker 1: your guy. You paid him twenty some million dollars. There's
Speaker 1: no way in hell he should be on the sidelines
Speaker 1: to start this game. I don't care if you run
Speaker 1: out of base Nickel, DN, special teams, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: He needs to be on the field to start this game. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: he's got He should, he should, he should. Ain't no way,
Speaker 1: the hesitation, the hesitation of my voice. Let you know
Speaker 1: what's been going on in all season. We have no idea.
Speaker 1: They've been hiding stuff since training camp, trying to trying
Speaker 1: to be all incock. Need a lot. Let not let
Speaker 1: people know what's going on, and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they run out here. Don't start taking Lawrence. They hide
Speaker 1: too much, man, Let us see it. So somebody can
Speaker 1: tell you, Hey, bro, what y'all doing is wrong during
Speaker 1: the week. Y'all need to go ahead and re evaluate
Speaker 1: that before y'all get to the game all Sunday, because
Speaker 1: that ain't making no sense. All right, let's take our
Speaker 1: first break. Danny McCray wants a timeline met on the
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy Air. In terms of it, he wants to
Speaker 1: know when is a deep playoff run coming, when is
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl appearance. Let's get to that. And I
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Speaker 1: our topics before the show. Wanted to know and wants
Speaker 1: a timeline on Mike McCarthy and when Mike McCarthy is
Speaker 1: going to produce a deep playoff run and possibly a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl run, and when I got the question, absolutely laughed.
Speaker 1: I laughed at it. Let's just say Barrett, Okay, here's
Speaker 1: why I laughed at it. TCU once hired a basketball coach.
Speaker 1: His name was Trent Johnson, and I asked, Trent, how
Speaker 1: long before you make the NCAA tournament? Got a timeline
Speaker 1: at all? And he gave kind of a terse answer
Speaker 1: that afterwards, when I meant to go meet him the
Speaker 1: press coffy and say, oh, yeah, you're the one that
Speaker 1: asked that dumb ass question. Why is it a dumb question?
Speaker 1: It's like you can't put no timeline on making a tournament.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, what I remember when Jimmy Valvano took
Speaker 1: over NC State said they went NAS Championship. Four years
Speaker 1: they end up win NAS Championship. So I'm sorry. You
Speaker 1: got a contract, and in your contract, is it legitimate
Speaker 1: to ask you when you think you'll take this team
Speaker 1: to an NCAA tournament. I mean, I don't think that's
Speaker 1: a crazy question at all, because people kind of want
Speaker 1: to know what's the return on investment. So this question
Speaker 1: is asking Mike McCarthy, All right, go ahead, there, no look, no,
Speaker 1: what I was saying was I wanted to hear this.
Speaker 1: I wanted to Church to answer this question because that's
Speaker 1: this guy, right and maybe having these meetings in there
Speaker 1: so and when you know how people have those vision
Speaker 1: boards in the back of the office or something like that.
Speaker 1: I want to know if Church saw that when he
Speaker 1: walked in there, and if he can give us an
Speaker 1: ideal of what is acceptable for him, because he was
Speaker 1: the de kool aid man, and so I want to
Speaker 1: know what is acceptable for him and Mike McCarthy and
Speaker 1: how how his seasons should progress, how how should we
Speaker 1: see them get better? Because I want to will you
Speaker 1: accept another four and twelve season, which which what we're
Speaker 1: heading for right now? Nah? You see, you see I'm
Speaker 1: not accepting another four and twelve season. And like I
Speaker 1: told y'all, went to my AA meetings and I got
Speaker 1: off to kool Ai. I'm kool aid free right now,
Speaker 1: Big Mike. I mean, that's still my boy. But he
Speaker 1: maybe looked bad. He baby looked bad this season. So
Speaker 1: I'm off to kool Ai. But for me next year
Speaker 1: to be considered a successful season and for him to
Speaker 1: keep going, I think he has to at least at
Speaker 1: the very least make a playoff appearance. I know they
Speaker 1: added another another spot to that playoff, so he doesn't
Speaker 1: have to win a division, but he has to at
Speaker 1: least get into the playoffs, because I'm sitting here saying,
Speaker 1: you know, people killed Garrett for going eight and eight
Speaker 1: those three years and not making it to the not
Speaker 1: making it into the playoffs. And this guy was supposed
Speaker 1: to come in here, big Mike being that was supposed
Speaker 1: to come in here with his all star coaching staff
Speaker 1: and all this talent. We loaded up on this team
Speaker 1: and we were supposed to go places. Now, we didn't
Speaker 1: expect covid and we didn't expect all his injuries to happen.
Speaker 1: That's why he kind of has a built in excuse
Speaker 1: this year. But next year it has to be. It
Speaker 1: has to be some type of movement. We gotta go
Speaker 1: into the postseason, or we gotta win a division next year.
Speaker 1: I think so to be considered successful, all right, I
Speaker 1: think so Church next year, I say this, Can I
Speaker 1: say this? Go ahead? Go ahead? If I'm listening to you,
Speaker 1: you're saying McCarthy has to make the playoffs next year.
Speaker 1: And you're the guy who says that the Cowboys should
Speaker 1: dump dok Prescott and go get rookie justin field. So
Speaker 1: you're saying with just yes, and bolster the defense, and
Speaker 1: bolster the defense. Don't forget that part, or else we're
Speaker 1: gonna be out here with five thousand yards and empty
Speaker 1: calories eight and eight not making the playoffs because we
Speaker 1: can't stop. Back to what I was saying, I think
Speaker 1: he needs one more year and he's got to get
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. He gotta make you listen, You gotta
Speaker 1: define that a little bit better, man, because like we
Speaker 1: talked about yesterday, the record matters. You said this, all right,
Speaker 1: because a team even from the NFC East make the
Speaker 1: playoffs with five could make the playoffs with five wins
Speaker 1: this season. So it's a five win playoff team good
Speaker 1: enough for you? Or does it have to be a
Speaker 1: real legit good team that's looking at some like ten
Speaker 1: and six, eleven and five and then make the playoffs, right,
Speaker 1: Because you can still have a sorry season like we
Speaker 1: have it now and I sent Nui the stuff earlier,
Speaker 1: we still are mathematically in the playoff hunt. Well, look,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it like this. I don't think this
Speaker 1: this type of season in the NFC East is gonna
Speaker 1: gonna happen again next year. I mean, the last time
Speaker 1: we saw something like this where a terrible division winner
Speaker 1: ended up taking the playoffs I think with Seattle when
Speaker 1: they were seven and nine, and I think that was
Speaker 1: about maybe eight years ago, maybe nine years ago. So
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll see, you know, a terrible division
Speaker 1: make the playoffs like this each and every year. I
Speaker 1: think it'll be more competitive next year in the NFC East.
Speaker 1: And what I'm saying is, I think we gotta get
Speaker 1: into the playoffs, and if you want specifics, we gotta.
Speaker 1: We gotta be over five hundred. We gotta at least
Speaker 1: be in that nine and seven, ten and six round.
Speaker 1: And I think that's gonna get to the playoffs next year.
Speaker 1: And if he's able to do that, I consider that
Speaker 1: a success. We can still have an eight and eighteen
Speaker 1: make the playoffs out of the East this year, By
Speaker 1: the way, I'll take that too fat as long as
Speaker 1: we get in the as long as we in the playoffs, Danny,
Speaker 1: you want to go ahead and hit this, hit this
Speaker 1: just the man, Hold on, wait, which one? Is it
Speaker 1: as long as we in the playoffs or do we
Speaker 1: have to have a nine and seven, ten and six
Speaker 1: at least record, which I mean, what's the difference. If
Speaker 1: we're nine and seven in the playoffs, that's cool with me.
Speaker 1: There that that that should break it down enough for you.
Speaker 1: But what are we six and teen in the playoffs?
Speaker 1: Does that? Does that? Is that? I mean for you?
Speaker 1: I mean if if, if, if it was a fifth,
Speaker 1: I mean, like you put you moving the gold posts
Speaker 1: all over the place. I'm saying seven and we're in
Speaker 1: the plight. The loss we can go is nine. What's
Speaker 1: happening this year? I'm going based off what's happening this year?
Speaker 1: It's not if, Like right now we have so we're saying,
Speaker 1: so you must make it to the playoffs. So he
Speaker 1: must make it to the playoffs in order for me
Speaker 1: to see it as a success. Is that a good
Speaker 1: enough answer for you? No? No, I'm saying, what does
Speaker 1: this team have to look like? Man? Can they be
Speaker 1: a six win playoff team and that being acceptable for
Speaker 1: you because they made it to the playoffs? Or do
Speaker 1: they need to look like a real contender at nine
Speaker 1: and seven, ten and six, because this year we have
Speaker 1: a five, they could have to be a contender they
Speaker 1: be at thank you, thank you, that's all. That's all
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear. I have to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: You're a contender. But okay, all right, good, that's not
Speaker 1: Come on, Church, Come on Church that if you make
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you're contender. It's Washington a contender. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. Yes or no, that's a yes
Speaker 1: or no answer. Yes, Yes, they're they're contending for a
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Yes, okay, all right? Oh he means literally,
Speaker 1: he means literal literally, Okay, I got you. That is
Speaker 1: that's Barry Church saying that. You know, buck Nell University
Speaker 1: or Toledo makes the NCAA basketball tournament, they're a contender
Speaker 1: because they got in. Even though so whats so was
Speaker 1: the New York Giants a contender? Where the New York
Speaker 1: Giants a contend in two thousand and seven and two
Speaker 1: thousand and eleven when they snuck into the playoffs, were
Speaker 1: they contender? What was their record? Seven? There were ninety seven?
Speaker 1: And you know, I did anybody consider them? They got
Speaker 1: into the playoffs, they ended up winning the Super Bowl? Church,
Speaker 1: That's why are you hearing what I'm saying. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if we are, if we if we are below five
Speaker 1: hundred and make the playoffs, not nine and seven or
Speaker 1: tennant six. If we are below five hundred in a
Speaker 1: division like we are now, you you bring up the Giants,
Speaker 1: you got to say that they was two games above
Speaker 1: five hundred. I'm told it is gonna be. It's gonna
Speaker 1: have a seven and nine winner again next year. Who
Speaker 1: knows years? Seriously that eight nine years. You guys are
Speaker 1: acting like this happens every season that the division has
Speaker 1: a terrible person getting into the playoffs. That doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: Usually every years there's a winning record and those guys
Speaker 1: are getting into the last two And when was the
Speaker 1: last time that happened? Barry? The last two seasons, it
Speaker 1: has been a scrape at the end trying to find
Speaker 1: a division winner in the NFC East And all right,
Speaker 1: so it was the Philadelphia record, they were there, eight
Speaker 1: and eight, nine and seven, right, they were around that.
Speaker 1: It was that a losing record. It was a nine
Speaker 1: and sevent team that ended up, you know, winning, scraping
Speaker 1: together wins down the stretch. There was a point in
Speaker 1: time we're both teams, the Cowboys were sitting around here
Speaker 1: and they both had had bad records. I mean the
Speaker 1: NFC East has been bad, the worst division in football
Speaker 1: the past two seats, the worst division right now. Nobody's
Speaker 1: got their own starting quarterback plant. But you're just gonna
Speaker 1: sit up here to soon next year it's gonna be better.
Speaker 1: So you say, Carson Wentz is gonna be back to
Speaker 1: what he was, that Washington's going somehow to be there
Speaker 1: next year. I'm just saying, because so what I'm saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, to break it down. So let's just say this,
Speaker 1: nine and seven in the playoffs, to make it, to
Speaker 1: make it simple. Nine and seven and going into the playoffs,
Speaker 1: thank you. That's all. That's all he wanted to know.
Speaker 1: That's all you want to know. Go ahead, go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. No no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: You said that, and then you backed up and said,
Speaker 1: as long as we make the playoffs. Let's two different things.
Speaker 1: H my god, go ahead with your point, man, Like
Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all, you gotta make the playoffs nine second.
Speaker 1: That's it? Like what I mean, what the do you
Speaker 1: want from me? Man? That's it. I've been waiting for that.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for that. Flor Okay, So let's let's
Speaker 1: so let's keep going with this. So let's keep going
Speaker 1: with this, like, I mean, what's the what's the what's
Speaker 1: the what's the end point of this? Are we are
Speaker 1: we gonna come to a point or we just wanted
Speaker 1: to know what I felt like. I mean, that's no
Speaker 1: that that's the point because you know me, I like
Speaker 1: the rewind so next year when this stuff happened, I
Speaker 1: don't when you start backpedaling, the backtracking back, I want
Speaker 1: to make sure we got to some tape with the discussion.
Speaker 1: We're just stop. Go ahead, all right, let's keep going,
Speaker 1: all right, let's keep going. Okay, all right, so so
Speaker 1: so so the point is, the point is Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: has to make significant improvement over this year, uh going
Speaker 1: into next year, and I'm saying within the next four
Speaker 1: four seasons he has to make two playoff runs. In
Speaker 1: the second needs to be pretty deep deep off in
Speaker 1: there so they'll know that this guy is really becoming
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contemper. Especially if you signed Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: to a four year deal, that means you got four
Speaker 1: years to get this dude to a super Bowl. That's
Speaker 1: what you if you pay out that kind of money,
Speaker 1: that's what you're expecting in as many times as Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones is going on his radio show touting Mike's successes
Speaker 1: in the past and the fact that he's won a
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Yes, Danny, that is to me, that is
Speaker 1: the expectation. And Mike McCarthy himself, I'll give him credit.
Speaker 1: He said, look, we're here to win super Bowls. If
Speaker 1: you're not trying to play for the Super Bowl, no
Speaker 1: reason to be here. So to ask Mike McCarthy to
Speaker 1: have two good playoff runs with this team and for
Speaker 1: this team to be an an NFC championship game, I
Speaker 1: don't think is an unrealistic expectation at all for him
Speaker 1: if he fulfills this contract, I do not. I think
Speaker 1: that is minimum what should be expected from this football.
Speaker 1: Cool cook, cool with me. All right, let's let's take
Speaker 1: a break. I'm starting Yeah, I'm starting to see I'm
Speaker 1: starting to see a trend with you. I think every
Speaker 1: show you say something a little bit out there that
Speaker 1: makes it say wow. Yesterday you posed a question that
Speaker 1: made me say wow, Really, berries think of that. Let's
Speaker 1: dive into what you wanted to talk about yesterday. We
Speaker 1: didn't give enough time too, because this this may take
Speaker 1: a little bit here to unpack between you McCray and
Speaker 1: I will do that next on the playoffs line right
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Speaker 1: This has been a very y rough year for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and a tough year for Ezekiel Elliott, in fact,
Speaker 1: the young running back's worst season in his career. A
Speaker 1: lot of factors have gone into that. Yesterday, when we
Speaker 1: were formulating topics, one topic we didn't get to the
Speaker 1: Barry had put forth was in the off season, do
Speaker 1: you consider putting Ezekiel Elliott on the trading block? Church
Speaker 1: follow up on the thinking there for do I consider it?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it depends what the right offer comes.
Speaker 1: I mean, if somebody comes along and just says, you
Speaker 1: know what, a we want these guys talent, We're willing
Speaker 1: to break bread with you. Guys. What do you guys think?
Speaker 1: I think you hear him out. I don't think you know.
Speaker 1: I think you don't go out there and say, no,
Speaker 1: he this guy's untouchable. This is our this is our horse,
Speaker 1: this is our backbone of our team. I don't think
Speaker 1: he I don't think he's got that right now. So
Speaker 1: if somebody were to come with, say, first round offer
Speaker 1: or anything like that, even a second, do you consider it?
Speaker 1: I do. I don't know about y'all, but I think
Speaker 1: I consider it. Listen, Neue, he called me crazy a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago when I said this, Uh, look, if
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's not gonna use him how he needs to
Speaker 1: be used, then yes, go ahead and let Tony Paula
Speaker 1: spin draft you a guy in the later rounds to
Speaker 1: be the backup running back and move off from Zeke,
Speaker 1: because if you're not gonna use the guy like he's
Speaker 1: been used, the reason why he got the ninety million dollars.
Speaker 1: Then then why have him here? Why why keep paying
Speaker 1: him the same The same thing goes for all the
Speaker 1: other players that get paid seventy eighty million dollars and
Speaker 1: not getting the correct usage. If you're not gonna use
Speaker 1: these guys and they're just gonna sit here and collect
Speaker 1: ten fifteen million dollars a year, that you need to
Speaker 1: find a way to get some value out of them,
Speaker 1: because this offensive scheme is just not fit for Zeke
Speaker 1: right now and the way that he's used to handling
Speaker 1: on the ball and using the running game. So I
Speaker 1: don't think it's crazy if Mike McCarthy and Keller Moore
Speaker 1: aren't going to use them, how you needs to be used?
Speaker 1: All right, gentlemen, I'm just gonna go straight to the numbers. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a numbers question, and the way the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have set up their numbers, you can't cut it. You
Speaker 1: can't even trade them. It would cost you in deadcap
Speaker 1: hit money. Okay, deadcap hit money. In twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: twenty four point five million dollars to get rid of Zekiel,
Speaker 1: and then in twenty twenty two it is ten point
Speaker 1: eight million dollars. You're realistic out to get away from
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott's twenty twenty three. That's that's what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have done it themselves in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: The waves at this contract up you you've basically tied
Speaker 1: this guy to the team. Give his agent, Rocky Arsenal
Speaker 1: a lot of credit. Cowboys are stuck with number twenty one.
Speaker 1: So to me, the conversation really you got to have
Speaker 1: if you're Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones, is you go
Speaker 1: down there to Mike McCarthy and Kelly Warren. You let
Speaker 1: these guys know we're not getting out of this deal
Speaker 1: for two years, and I need you to figure out
Speaker 1: how to use it. I heard somebody talking about trading
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper in the offseason, and I said, you know what, guys,
Speaker 1: whenever you have these conversations, please go look at the
Speaker 1: dead cap hit money Amari Cooper for the It's basically
Speaker 1: a two year deal. It's this year, next year after that.
Speaker 1: You could get out of the money with these deals,
Speaker 1: and basically all these deals you got to find where's
Speaker 1: the exit point all these deals where you're not killing
Speaker 1: your cap and the deal here for ezekiel Man. You're stuck.
Speaker 1: That's really what it is. You're stuck. Well, we gotta
Speaker 1: found a way to better use them, because right now,
Speaker 1: I mean, what does he getting twelve carries? Okay, here's
Speaker 1: a game, go ahead. Yeah, And that's the only reason
Speaker 1: that the questions are being answered are being raised though,
Speaker 1: it is because not not of them and their talent.
Speaker 1: We know a Mary Cooper can go out there and
Speaker 1: catch ten balls. Again, we know that Zeke if given
Speaker 1: the right opportunities, he can go out there and get
Speaker 1: ninety five one hundred yards a game. The question is
Speaker 1: only being raised because of the plays that are being called. So,
Speaker 1: like you said, Nui, the point is, if you're not
Speaker 1: going to use the guys, then get them out of here.
Speaker 1: But the fact that you can't get them out of
Speaker 1: here and and really have your team survived as far
Speaker 1: as cap wise, that you need to go down and
Speaker 1: have a real discussion with your offensive coordinating, the guys
Speaker 1: who are putting the passing game together and let them
Speaker 1: know that you want to see dis amount of uses
Speaker 1: from these guys because they gave him a whole year
Speaker 1: and they never called on to it. And I go
Speaker 1: back to just just take it a stay in the
Speaker 1: division and look over at Carson Wentz. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is dead hit number, dead cap hit number
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty one. It is fifty nine point two
Speaker 1: million dollars. You know, So the situation for the Eagles
Speaker 1: is truly how do you fix this dude? So maybe
Speaker 1: they end up firing Doug Peterson, And I know that
Speaker 1: makes surprise. Some people are here because he won a
Speaker 1: super Bowl. But if you can't get anything out of
Speaker 1: Carson wins, and this coach is gonna think he can
Speaker 1: get anything anymore that you can better go find somebody
Speaker 1: who can, because this is sixty million dollars hit you
Speaker 1: simply can't take. And you start looking at these numbers
Speaker 1: for Cooper, you start looking at these numbers for Ezekiel,
Speaker 1: even Tyrant Smith. You better find some folks who can
Speaker 1: figure out how to get the best use of these players.
Speaker 1: And you're getting ready to tie yourself up deep. But
Speaker 1: Doc Prescott, you've got to get people in here from
Speaker 1: a coaching standpoint who can figure it out. I hurt.
Speaker 1: Michael Lombardi say this on his podcast. He's like, Hey,
Speaker 1: if you got a forty million dollar problem. Why not
Speaker 1: spend ten million dollars on the guy to fix it?
Speaker 1: And right now when you start looking at Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: and then what you're gonna end up paying Doak Prescott. Um.
Speaker 1: If Kellen Moore is not the guy to get this right,
Speaker 1: then maybe you tell Mike McCarthy, I need you to
Speaker 1: fix it. But somewhere along the way, they've got to
Speaker 1: get a return on investment for their money with these players,
Speaker 1: because these players are going to be here. That's really
Speaker 1: the bottom one. You're stuck with these guys, So you
Speaker 1: better figure out how to get something out of No,
Speaker 1: I'm no contract, gurgle. So I'm gonna ask you a
Speaker 1: question about the dead cat money versus being able to
Speaker 1: be traded. So you're saying if they are traded, that
Speaker 1: that money still stays on us as dead cat money.
Speaker 1: This is the money that you've agreed to. And look,
Speaker 1: and I'll say this, nobody's gonna trade for this contract.
Speaker 1: I mean, for instance, if you want to trade for
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz's money, you're gonna have to trade for all
Speaker 1: this cash. And nobody's going to sit up here and
Speaker 1: pay these numbers. Um, it's ludicrous. If you start to look. Well,
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is it's a little. It's worse. It's a little,
Speaker 1: it's a lot worse than the other guys that we mentioned.
Speaker 1: You're looking at fifty. But but but I'm asking, are
Speaker 1: they able to trade them and then still not have
Speaker 1: to take that dead cap hit like once you once
Speaker 1: you come up with a deal, I think all of
Speaker 1: that is going off of your cap um. Well, it
Speaker 1: doesn't work like that. I'm saying, Okay, so if you
Speaker 1: trade him that dead cap, no, the dead cap, the
Speaker 1: dead the dead cat is your signing bonus. So they
Speaker 1: do your signing bonus. They spread it out over so
Speaker 1: many years. So what happens is if you trade the person,
Speaker 1: all those years that were sprout over gets backlogged to
Speaker 1: that year accelerat into one. Yes, so it doesn't accelerate
Speaker 1: it will kay. Um going in here looking at dead
Speaker 1: cap hit money on Zeke's twenty four point nine, ten
Speaker 1: point eight over the next two years, then twenty and
Speaker 1: then you basically got it out after twenty twenty three. Um,
Speaker 1: just looking at his base salary money, just base salary
Speaker 1: money for twenty twenty one is nine point six million
Speaker 1: dollars um with a cap hit of thirteen point seve
Speaker 1: and he's got a signing boone on us A one
Speaker 1: five and an option to two six. And then next
Speaker 1: year you get looking at a base out of twelve
Speaker 1: point four million, signing bote us at one point five million,
Speaker 1: option to two point six million for a cap hit
Speaker 1: of sixteen point five. If we just look and ask
Speaker 1: ourselves these in today's NFL and looking at Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 1: would it be wise for you to trade a first
Speaker 1: round pick and take on this money or would it
Speaker 1: be better for you to go ahead and go into
Speaker 1: the draft and try and get somebody or a heck,
Speaker 1: you could even sign some dude right now. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying Levia Bell's going to be the answer for a team,
Speaker 1: but you know, you can go find some guys to
Speaker 1: run the football. Kyle Shanahan has done that ended up
Speaker 1: going to a Super Bowl. So I just think that
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott and his trade value is not what some
Speaker 1: people may think it is. Because you look at this
Speaker 1: dude now you guys have talked about it doesn't look
Speaker 1: as quick as he used to. The numbers are down here.
Speaker 1: He's already not practicing today because he's got the lingering
Speaker 1: effects of the calf issue. Offensive line's not as good.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't think that he's anywhere close
Speaker 1: to being a tradeable piece for what you think you
Speaker 1: might be able to get for them. Yeah. Look like
Speaker 1: I said, I don't think we should trade them. If
Speaker 1: you don't matter, worn't running back you get up here
Speaker 1: in this offense. If you if you don't run them
Speaker 1: and give them enough care, you give them enough such as,
Speaker 1: then we're gonna be saying the same thing about the
Speaker 1: next guy as well. So the solution is, you know,
Speaker 1: have Jerry or somebody to go down there and talk
Speaker 1: to McCarthy and Kellen Moore and let them know that
Speaker 1: these guys need to be need to be used so
Speaker 1: they get a return on their investment. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you're right. You've got to use the talent. And look,
Speaker 1: if Mike McCarthy and Kellen Moore want to go back
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, I would think the wisest thing to
Speaker 1: do is figure out how you can utilize twenty one
Speaker 1: to make your offense. For the offense where your quarterback
Speaker 1: is throwing for no more than thirty passes a game
Speaker 1: and then running the football between Pollard and Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty eight times a game. It's something
Speaker 1: that can be done and doable, so they've they've got
Speaker 1: to figure that out next year. To me, that's one
Speaker 1: of the biggest things that needs to be worked out
Speaker 1: on this football team is trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: to become more balance out the run and pass. These
Speaker 1: forty times and fifty times and you've got your quarterbacks passing,
Speaker 1: it's a losing recipe for the Dallas Cowboys. You can
Speaker 1: just go down the list and look at the records
Speaker 1: or Dak Prescott, Tony Romo. When these guys are throwing
Speaker 1: forty plus times a game, there's usually els that that
Speaker 1: come with that. So it's pretty pretty uh to me,
Speaker 1: it's pretty scared when you start throwing up those numbers.
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of scary, UM, let me, with
Speaker 1: all sincerity give my best wishes to Jason Garrett. Um.
Speaker 1: He's got COVID. Giants offensive coordinator has COVID and UM,
Speaker 1: it is nothing to joke about. It is something to
Speaker 1: take very serious, and so I hope Jason can get
Speaker 1: over it and and and be back in good shape.
Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of guys in the NFL ab overcoming.
Speaker 1: But you know, Jason is uh, you know, Jason's he's
Speaker 1: not a player, He's not a young guy. I mean,
Speaker 1: Jason is in his fifties, so I'm hoping he's a
Speaker 1: okay on this, guys. Yeah, definitely. H best wishes goes
Speaker 1: out to Garrett out there man in New York. Like
Speaker 1: you said, man, he's not the youngest of the guys,
Speaker 1: but I mean he's a great guy. So hopefully he's
Speaker 1: able to, you know, pull through through this and he'll
Speaker 1: be back on the sidelines coaching soon. Yeah. Same here.
Speaker 1: You know, what's your first speedy recovery from him? And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, hope, hope everything goes well. Man at COVID
Speaker 1: is serious. So everybody just make sure you stay safe
Speaker 1: out there. All right. We got Thursday and that football.
Speaker 1: The Las Vegas Raiders are hosting the Chargers what looks
Speaker 1: like to be the last couple of games for Anthony
Speaker 1: lenn his head coach. The Raiders are a three and
Speaker 1: a half point favorite. Church who you got tonight? I
Speaker 1: need a big game. I need a big game out
Speaker 1: of Herbert tonight for as the fantasy playoffs, So I
Speaker 1: gotta go with my guys out in Chargers Land. So
Speaker 1: for me, I gotta go Chargers twenty seven, Raiders twenty one.
Speaker 1: You know what. I'm going Charges as well, but I'm
Speaker 1: going the thirty one twenty eight. The Raiders have lost
Speaker 1: a lot of starters. I think they're down like four
Speaker 1: or five starters. I don't know if it's COVID related
Speaker 1: or injury related, but they're down a lot in a secondary.
Speaker 1: So gotta have a big day out of Herbert. I
Speaker 1: got to well, well, well, gentlemen, I hate the fact
Speaker 1: that there's a lack of faith in the new defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator for Vegas, who I ain't. Am going to go
Speaker 1: ahead and bed on all right, I'm sticking with you,
Speaker 1: Rod Mary Nellie getting the ship turned around, getting effort
Speaker 1: turned around, and I'm going with the Raiders to take
Speaker 1: it tonight thirty to twenty four in this football game.
Speaker 1: So Raiders in home Fairy by three and a half.
Speaker 1: Rob man Nellie comes through thirty twenty four. Boom, Raiders
Speaker 1: like that? You like that, does Jeff? He's getting another
Speaker 1: interception this week? Man. I hope, so I said, I
Speaker 1: hope not. I hope not. I hope Herbert torching the
Speaker 1: boys from about three hundred and thirty. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's crazy how quick the tables can turn. I mean
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. I mean the Raiders were
Speaker 1: out there in Kansas City. I think he picked off
Speaker 1: you know, my homes a couple of times, and everybody
Speaker 1: was hooting and hollering about this Raiders defense. And now
Speaker 1: I look at DC, he's on his way, he's fired.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just crazy how things can turn so
Speaker 1: quick in a season like that. Man, it is that man,
Speaker 1: that that's how that's how it goes. But that's why
Speaker 1: you got to play the sixteen man. December football and
Speaker 1: you guys have played December football is where you know,
Speaker 1: we start to separate the men from the boys out here.
Speaker 1: And to me, I think December is also where you decide,
Speaker 1: you also see who can coach you know, can you
Speaker 1: coach your guys to keep improving and getting better. But
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of truths to be told
Speaker 1: about your football team in December and who you've developed
Speaker 1: and where you're going with your program, because because that's when,
Speaker 1: to me, that's when these things start to get one
Speaker 1: all right, it is fifteen after that is our show,
Speaker 1: Chris being producer. Great job today, Church mccraig. Always fun
Speaker 1: to chat with you. We'll give our predictions for forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers and Cowboys tomorrow. I don't remember. It is
Speaker 1: a noon game on Sunday at Jerry World, not a
Speaker 1: Sunday night football game. Don't be upset by it because,
Speaker 1: as Jalen Smith said, quote, if the owners cool with it,
Speaker 1: we ain't tripping. We're good. All right, talk tomorrow right
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