WEBVTT - Players Lounge: Excepting Mediocrity?

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<v Speaker 1>Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCray, and Newey Scrugs.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go Thursday Players Lounge, brought to you by

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<v Speaker 1>Hotels dot Com on Newy Scrugs, longtime Cowboys reporter, joined

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<v Speaker 1>by former safety's Barry Church and Danny McCray. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes of professional football talkwee key in on

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<v Speaker 1>the Dallas Cowboys who have a noon game against the

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco forty nine Ers on Sunday. That means I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get out of the house, like nine thirty to

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<v Speaker 1>get on down here for this game. So yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be a Sunday night game on NBC.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, seven o'clock, waiting all day for Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's get on up in the morning and get

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<v Speaker 1>ready for a brunch kickoff game between the Cowboys at

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers. Maybe you're not bothered by it. Clearly

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith and the Cowboys not bothering him at all.

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<v Speaker 1>As Jalen was asked about this, and he said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>if the owner ain't tripping, we good talking about being

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<v Speaker 1>from prime time to the noon game and being flexed

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<v Speaker 1>out four Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Cleveland and

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Giants. Gentleman, I'm just gonna read to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna read to you what one gentleman told me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I asked. I asked a veteran, a person who's been

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<v Speaker 1>around the Cowboys for a long time, knows Jerry Jones

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<v Speaker 1>very well. And I sent I sit the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>I said to you guys that I retweeted Twitter, and

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<v Speaker 1>this person said, noon starts are the graveyard of mediocrity,

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<v Speaker 1>the weekly home of the non contenders. The Cowboys have

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<v Speaker 1>embraced their new identity sad thoughts. I'm gonna tell you what, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you write it, But whoever told you that was right

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<v Speaker 1>about the mediocracy thing? Because I tell you what. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Jacksonville, that's all we had was twelve

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock games. I mean, we scratched it. We clawed to

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<v Speaker 1>try to get even the three o'clock afternoons start, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we had maybe two of those throughout my

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<v Speaker 1>whole time down there in Jacksonville. So this is not

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<v Speaker 1>where the Cowboys want to be. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be America's team. This is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>the ratings are supposed to be spiked when the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>touched the field. But I mean, I guess, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord's gone. I mean, when you go four and

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<v Speaker 1>nine so far this season, I mean things start to

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<v Speaker 1>get snatched away from you. Then now we got the

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday Night getting pulled for Cleveland and New York game.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how the Mighty have fallen? D Mac, How

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<v Speaker 1>the Mighty have fallen? You know, listen, it's the first

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<v Speaker 1>time Rights, it's a rough season. You don't have Dak.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, your team's underperforming. In Cleveland, all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden is playing well enough to be flexed on Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>Night because this may be the first year they've been

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs since since I don't know when, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a really big game. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that will continue to happen to the

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys. I mean, this is this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the off years. So I think Jalen was okay with

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<v Speaker 1>his response. Was I think worded wrong. But he should

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<v Speaker 1>not be worried about being flexed to twelve o'clock now,

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<v Speaker 1>he should be worried about playing the best football that

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<v Speaker 1>he could play. I don't think it's that big of

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<v Speaker 1>a deal. But you know, like NEWI said, it's never happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a sign that, you know, the same

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<v Speaker 1>old stuff that happens with the Cowboys to where you

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<v Speaker 1>can you can be below five hundred team and people

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<v Speaker 1>still gonna watch and all that stuff. This may be

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<v Speaker 1>changing so that this may be that little kicking the

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<v Speaker 1>butt that we need, you know, to to get things

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<v Speaker 1>right so we can stay in those promtime games. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>my fault process. When I hear what Jalen says, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll repeat it. If the Yonner ain't tripping, we good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was very wrong, but he said it all wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>The thought process through the years has been, hey, forget

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach, because when these guys have a direct

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<v Speaker 1>line to Jerry, that's what they care about. Don't care

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<v Speaker 1>what the head coach says. And this goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>Troy Aikman, who hated Chan Gailey's offense and was straight

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<v Speaker 1>to the Jerry to get Jan Gailey gone. Dion Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>had that pipeline, and Romo had that pipeline, And it

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<v Speaker 1>just seems as though from what I'm reading from this

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<v Speaker 1>with Jaylen Smith is say, hey man, you know, Jerry's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Jerry and I cool. I got my contract. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't forget it. No, no, man has some personal pride.

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<v Speaker 1>Your season is so bad that the one network who

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<v Speaker 1>always wants you on and said, yeah, man, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>even put these dudes on. You're that bad. And you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>hey man, it's cool, it's cool, it's down. What is

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<v Speaker 1>this supposed to say? What? Like? What what would be

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<v Speaker 1>your ideal response to that? To that question, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they asked him to question anybody, but what would

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<v Speaker 1>be your ideal response? He should have said. He should

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<v Speaker 1>have said, you know what, you know, that's something I

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<v Speaker 1>can't control. Unfocused on the game in San Francisco. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what That's all he had to say. And let it go.

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<v Speaker 1>Take that. I mean, what the guy over there talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if he and I could pitch. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see this, but I can picture how he handled it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see him just laughing about it. Hey, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>look man, what Jerry said he ain't say, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't worried about it. Then, like that whole non chalant

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<v Speaker 1>adtitude from one of your leaders is just something you

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<v Speaker 1>can't have. I mean, and we wonder why the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>a fourule nine right now, and we wonder why the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys have one of the worst defenses in NFL history.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you got guys doing things like this,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just it ain't gonna work out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just not Is that? Is that? Is that an acceptable

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<v Speaker 1>answer for you knew it? So here's more. I gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give you more from Jalen Smith. This comes from Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Gelkin o the Dallas Morning News. Jalen said, quote, Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that until now. My thoughts right now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my thoughts right off the top, is it's

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<v Speaker 1>a business. I don't focus on what's happening in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm embracing each moment each day. So that was more

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<v Speaker 1>from his thoughts about the Cowboys being moved from prime

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<v Speaker 1>time with the forty nine er. But I'm just telling

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<v Speaker 1>you my opinion. And I've seen this a lot longer

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<v Speaker 1>than you guys, because I've covered this team going back

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<v Speaker 1>to when Jimmy Johnson was head coach. Is this mentality

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<v Speaker 1>of dudes thinking, hey man, I'm just I'm just taking

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<v Speaker 1>whatever Jerry says. It's cool. I'll just play off that.

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<v Speaker 1>And also this acceptance of hey man, we're at the

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<v Speaker 1>twelve o'clock spot now, I mean, this is I remember

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<v Speaker 1>years when the Cowboys may have hell he had, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one or two twelve o'clock starts. I remember when I

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<v Speaker 1>had a new boss at TV and this guy had

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<v Speaker 1>once worked in Minnesota, and he was trying to tell

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<v Speaker 1>me that, hey, what you need to do is go

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<v Speaker 1>to these games in the NFC East, fly home immediately

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<v Speaker 1>after and come to the late show. And I had

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<v Speaker 1>to explain to him, Dude, in Minnesota, you guys played

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of noon games. This is the Cowboys. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of the games are gonna start at three o'clock if

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a seven o'clock. Can you know the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>are America's team. They don't play a lot of protect

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<v Speaker 1>game why because the networks want them on. The networks

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<v Speaker 1>fight to keep them on. And when you get dropped

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<v Speaker 1>down to this and you're just like, hey man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all good, it's cool. I just find that just like

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<v Speaker 1>what this person said. This is accepting mediocrity, dandy, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I feel about it. It should be accepting mediocrity. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel you listen, And like I said, I think

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<v Speaker 1>his response was off the beginning of it. Anyways, I

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<v Speaker 1>like the second part that you read. I really don't.

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<v Speaker 1>As a competitor and knowing some of these guys just

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit, I don't think that they're really

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<v Speaker 1>accepting it. I mean, the question was asked, he started

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<v Speaker 1>off wrong, he finished it right. I think that if

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<v Speaker 1>it does still bother them to be flexed to twelve

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna be losing and going four and nine

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. So I don't think they're accepting.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they want to be better. You know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't show on the field. But I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm not gonna put this against Jayalon Smith

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<v Speaker 1>to say that he's accepting the fact that there four

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<v Speaker 1>or nine he's collecting this check and that he's just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go on about his business because because Jerry say

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine. Because one thing we do know new it

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry is not okay with this. Well, it's it's interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>so speaking of this game against the forty Nineers, in

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<v Speaker 1>which the Niners are five and eight Cowboys or five

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<v Speaker 1>nine San Francisco favorite in this football game by three. Defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>what should the game plan be to stop this Niners

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<v Speaker 1>football team and the witch that you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>match up against Kyle Shannahan, the head coach who calls

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<v Speaker 1>a place, who's very good at it. Well, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>think something that we're gonna that we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>do that we haven't done pretty much all season, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's just played decent run defense. I mean, look, take

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<v Speaker 1>a page out of Marry Nelly's book. Whatever you gotta do,

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<v Speaker 1>get some stunting going on, get something to keep these

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<v Speaker 1>line back is clear to where they can just go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and make plays. Because we know Kyle Shanahan

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<v Speaker 1>loves the run game and he's creative with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>what did we see last time we went against a

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<v Speaker 1>creative run team in Baltimore? They gash just with all

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<v Speaker 1>those pulling guards, the ghosts, motions, the counter looks. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all right up. Kyle Shanahan's allie. He's creative when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the run game. And they got three running

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<v Speaker 1>backs back there that can tote the rock, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's all they're gonna do when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>this defense, because we haven't stopped it all years. So

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<v Speaker 1>that if it's my game playing and I'm going out

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<v Speaker 1>there with this Cowboys defense, I'm stacking the box. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it. Either Mullins or Beth back there

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<v Speaker 1>at quarterback. I know they got Auka or I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>I butchered his name, but they got the right receiver

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<v Speaker 1>over there, they got the rookie receiver a Yuk out there,

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<v Speaker 1>they got Deepo Samuel. But I just don't trust the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback play. So I gotta stack the box because I

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<v Speaker 1>know Kyle Shannonhame is gonna come with some type of

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<v Speaker 1>creative run scheme to take advantage of our linebackers and

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<v Speaker 1>try to confuse our linebackers and go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>get big games. We have to stop the run if

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<v Speaker 1>we won any part of winning this game. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>just defensively. I mean another fact. We're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>offense another time, but defensively, we have got to stop

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<v Speaker 1>the run or at least play okay run defense. Talk

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<v Speaker 1>about talk about wishful thinking, all right, This is if

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<v Speaker 1>you have to put out a game plan, like you said, Church,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have to put one out, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>to go into the lab and try to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>something to do, you're going to say, yes, the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we've been trying to get done for the

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<v Speaker 1>first thirteen weeks of the season. Stop the run, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to happen. Absolutely not. Like you said.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the most creative running the tacks

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. He's going to find their way to

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<v Speaker 1>maximize any advantage that he has, and he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of the fact that we have not been

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<v Speaker 1>able to stop the run. Inside. Our linebackers are catching

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<v Speaker 1>on blocks in their eyes, they're seeing too much, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're going this way and chasing stuff that they shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be chasing. They're going to take advantage of all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately our secondary really hasn't played enough to stop

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<v Speaker 1>even second to thirteen or quarterback. So it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a run day for us. So the offense is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to save us. That's that's my offices,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my defensive game plan. Going there and talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton and Kellen Moore and say, look, bro, y'all. Y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all do what y'all can to keep us off the field.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I think we can. We can make

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of big, big plays for y'all because they

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<v Speaker 1>have been able to turn the ball over for the

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<v Speaker 1>last few weeks. So will they put three linebackers on

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<v Speaker 1>the football field something they didn't do against the Ravens? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I would. I mean, look at me. I would. I

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<v Speaker 1>put I put Jal, and I put LV out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I put Sean Lee out there. I mean, just

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<v Speaker 1>for the simple fact that if any of those linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>can dissect or run and try to help this this

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<v Speaker 1>defense going forward, it's Sean Lee. I mean he might

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<v Speaker 1>not have the physical attributes to go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>be a game destructor like he used to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, but he can at least get these linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>lined up and going in the right direction, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need to. I mean, we've seen what happens when

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are going out there reading their keys. They're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at way too much. And when you and Danny

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<v Speaker 1>said it, when you look at a lot, you see

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<v Speaker 1>a little, and when you see a little, you see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, And That's what I think Sean Lee can

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<v Speaker 1>provide with this linebacking corps and hopefully just hopefully go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and do something against the run. Just don't

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<v Speaker 1>let a guy coming off the street rush for a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards like we did against Cleveland and like we

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<v Speaker 1>did against all these other teams. I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard come we just we just talked about Shanahan

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<v Speaker 1>being one of the most creative guys when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to call it plays. If you plan on going out

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<v Speaker 1>there and running your base package for the entire game,

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to get ran out of the stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>I can get first second down. Where do they come

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<v Speaker 1>out of What did they say, Hey, we're gonna maximize

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you know, we're gonna take a man

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<v Speaker 1>into LV and jayals Smith. We're gonna come out an

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<v Speaker 1>eleven personnel and we're still gonna run power, We're still

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<v Speaker 1>gonna run counter, We're still gonna run zone read. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you putting your three linebackers out there when they personnel

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<v Speaker 1>on first second down? I could live with with Mullins

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<v Speaker 1>and better trying to beat us with our arm I

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<v Speaker 1>can live with that. If they go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>throw for three hundred and beat us because we're in

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<v Speaker 1>base and they're in the eleven person up. I can

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<v Speaker 1>live with that, But if we go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>base and they're still just trumping going down the field

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<v Speaker 1>on us, I mean, it's that's disheartening. That's like a

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<v Speaker 1>stab in the heart right there. So I can live

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<v Speaker 1>with the throwing, but I just can't. I can't do

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<v Speaker 1>running up the gut for three hundred some yards and

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't do it. You hear this, do it?

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<v Speaker 1>You hear this. We've been known to give up the

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<v Speaker 1>run for the entire season, so this week we'd rather

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<v Speaker 1>stop the run and let Nick Mullins beat us. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, listen, when you stop to run all year,

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<v Speaker 1>so why don't we figure out how to do what

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<v Speaker 1>we've been able to do sometimes turn the ball over

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<v Speaker 1>and cover some of these receivers because you listen. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, wishful thinking for you to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>think that you're gonna be able to turn into a

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<v Speaker 1>run stopping team this week against a team that knows

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<v Speaker 1>they're on their backum quarterbacks, so they have to run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. So here's a crazy question, because you guys

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned base defense, do you think they'll start tak Lawrence

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<v Speaker 1>this week because when they ran out based defense last

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<v Speaker 1>week against Cincinnati, he had to run off the field

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<v Speaker 1>because he says he's not a a the base defense man.

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<v Speaker 1>They better start d law I'll tell you that right now.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been the most consistent player of these past couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks. He sparked the whole defenses takeaways last week

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<v Speaker 1>by punching the ball out. He's your energy player, he's

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<v Speaker 1>your guy. You paid him twenty some million dollars. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no way in hell he should be on the sidelines

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<v Speaker 1>to start this game. I don't care if you run

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<v Speaker 1>out of base Nickel, DN, special teams, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs to be on the field to start this game. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got He should, he should, he should. Ain't no way,

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<v Speaker 1>the hesitation, the hesitation of my voice. Let you know

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<v Speaker 1>what's been going on in all season. We have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been hiding stuff since training camp, trying to trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be all incock. Need a lot. Let not let

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<v Speaker 1>people know what's going on, and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>they run out here. Don't start taking Lawrence. They hide

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<v Speaker 1>too much, man, Let us see it. So somebody can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, Hey, bro, what y'all doing is wrong during

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<v Speaker 1>the week. Y'all need to go ahead and re evaluate

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<v Speaker 1>that before y'all get to the game all Sunday, because

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<v Speaker 1>that ain't making no sense. All right, let's take our

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<v Speaker 1>first break. Danny McCray wants a timeline met on the

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy Air. In terms of it, he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>know when is a deep playoff run coming, when is

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<v Speaker 1>a Super Bowl appearance. Let's get to that. And I

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<v Speaker 1>our topics before the show. Wanted to know and wants

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<v Speaker 1>a timeline on Mike McCarthy and when Mike McCarthy is

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<v Speaker 1>going to produce a deep playoff run and possibly a

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl run, and when I got the question, absolutely laughed.

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<v Speaker 1>I laughed at it. Let's just say Barrett, Okay, here's

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<v Speaker 1>why I laughed at it. TCU once hired a basketball coach.

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<v Speaker 1>His name was Trent Johnson, and I asked, Trent, how

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<v Speaker 1>long before you make the NCAA tournament? Got a timeline

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<v Speaker 1>at all? And he gave kind of a terse answer

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<v Speaker 1>that afterwards, when I meant to go meet him the

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<v Speaker 1>press coffy and say, oh, yeah, you're the one that

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<v Speaker 1>asked that dumb ass question. Why is it a dumb question?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you can't put no timeline on making a tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, what I remember when Jimmy Valvano took

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<v Speaker 1>over NC State said they went NAS Championship. Four years

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<v Speaker 1>they end up win NAS Championship. So I'm sorry. You

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<v Speaker 1>got a contract, and in your contract, is it legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you when you think you'll take this team

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<v Speaker 1>to an NCAA tournament. I mean, I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy question at all, because people kind of want

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<v Speaker 1>to know what's the return on investment. So this question

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<v Speaker 1>is asking Mike McCarthy, All right, go ahead, there, no look, no,

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<v Speaker 1>what I was saying was I wanted to hear this.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to Church to answer this question because that's

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, right and maybe having these meetings in there

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<v Speaker 1>so and when you know how people have those vision

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<v Speaker 1>boards in the back of the office or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know if Church saw that when he

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<v Speaker 1>walked in there, and if he can give us an

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<v Speaker 1>ideal of what is acceptable for him, because he was

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<v Speaker 1>the de kool aid man, and so I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know what is acceptable for him and Mike McCarthy and

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<v Speaker 1>how how his seasons should progress, how how should we

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<v Speaker 1>see them get better? Because I want to will you

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<v Speaker 1>accept another four and twelve season, which which what we're

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<v Speaker 1>heading for right now? Nah? You see, you see I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not accepting another four and twelve season. And like I

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<v Speaker 1>told y'all, went to my AA meetings and I got

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<v Speaker 1>off to kool Ai. I'm kool aid free right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Big Mike. I mean, that's still my boy. But he

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<v Speaker 1>maybe looked bad. He baby looked bad this season. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm off to kool Ai. But for me next year

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<v Speaker 1>to be considered a successful season and for him to

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<v Speaker 1>keep going, I think he has to at least at

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<v Speaker 1>the very least make a playoff appearance. I know they

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<v Speaker 1>added another another spot to that playoff, so he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to win a division, but he has to at

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<v Speaker 1>least get into the playoffs, because I'm sitting here saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people killed Garrett for going eight and eight

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<v Speaker 1>those three years and not making it to the not

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<v Speaker 1>making it into the playoffs. And this guy was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to come in here, big Mike being that was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to come in here with his all star coaching staff

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<v Speaker 1>and all this talent. We loaded up on this team

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<v Speaker 1>and we were supposed to go places. Now, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>expect covid and we didn't expect all his injuries to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he kind of has a built in excuse

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<v Speaker 1>this year. But next year it has to be. It

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<v Speaker 1>has to be some type of movement. We gotta go

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<v Speaker 1>into the postseason, or we gotta win a division next year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so to be considered successful, all right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think so Church next year, I say this, Can I

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<v Speaker 1>say this? Go ahead? Go ahead? If I'm listening to you,

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying McCarthy has to make the playoffs next year.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're the guy who says that the Cowboys should

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<v Speaker 1>dump dok Prescott and go get rookie justin field. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying with just yes, and bolster the defense, and

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<v Speaker 1>bolster the defense. Don't forget that part, or else we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be out here with five thousand yards and empty

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<v Speaker 1>calories eight and eight not making the playoffs because we

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<v Speaker 1>can't stop. Back to what I was saying, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he needs one more year and he's got to get

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<v Speaker 1>to the playoffs. He gotta make you listen, You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>define that a little bit better, man, because like we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about yesterday, the record matters. You said this, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>because a team even from the NFC East make the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs with five could make the playoffs with five wins

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<v Speaker 1>this season. So it's a five win playoff team good

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<v Speaker 1>enough for you? Or does it have to be a

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<v Speaker 1>real legit good team that's looking at some like ten

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<v Speaker 1>and six, eleven and five and then make the playoffs, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Because you can still have a sorry season like we

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<v Speaker 1>have it now and I sent Nui the stuff earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>we still are mathematically in the playoff hunt. Well, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put it like this. I don't think this

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<v Speaker 1>this type of season in the NFC East is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen again next year. I mean, the last time

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<v Speaker 1>we saw something like this where a terrible division winner

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<v Speaker 1>ended up taking the playoffs I think with Seattle when

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<v Speaker 1>they were seven and nine, and I think that was

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:41.760
<v Speaker 1>about maybe eight years ago, maybe nine years ago. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we'll see, you know, a terrible division

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:46.760
<v Speaker 1>make the playoffs like this each and every year. I

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.359
<v Speaker 1>think it'll be more competitive next year in the NFC East.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I'm saying is, I think we gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs, and if you want specifics, we gotta.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta be over five hundred. We gotta at least

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<v Speaker 1>be in that nine and seven, ten and six round.

0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:01.359
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's gonna get to the playoffs next year.

0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:03.199
<v Speaker 1>And if he's able to do that, I consider that

0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:06.639
<v Speaker 1>a success. We can still have an eight and eighteen

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:08.239
<v Speaker 1>make the playoffs out of the East this year, By

0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the way, I'll take that too fat as long as

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:13.520
<v Speaker 1>we get in the as long as we in the playoffs, Danny,

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you want to go ahead and hit this, hit this

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:17.560
<v Speaker 1>just the man, Hold on, wait, which one? Is it

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 1>as long as we in the playoffs or do we

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:21.720
<v Speaker 1>have to have a nine and seven, ten and six

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>at least record, which I mean, what's the difference. If

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<v Speaker 1>we're nine and seven in the playoffs, that's cool with me.

0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:28.320
<v Speaker 1>There that that that should break it down enough for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But what are we six and teen in the playoffs?

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:35.199
<v Speaker 1>Does that? Does that? Is that? I mean for you?

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean if if, if, if it was a fifth,

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like you put you moving the gold posts

0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 1>all over the place. I'm saying seven and we're in

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the plight. The loss we can go is nine. What's

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 1>happening this year? I'm going based off what's happening this year?

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>It's not if, Like right now we have so we're saying,

0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 1>so you must make it to the playoffs. So he

0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:54.359
<v Speaker 1>must make it to the playoffs in order for me

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>to see it as a success. Is that a good

0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:59.919
<v Speaker 1>enough answer for you? No? No, I'm saying, what does

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 1>this team have to look like? Man? Can they be

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 1>a six win playoff team and that being acceptable for

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you because they made it to the playoffs? Or do

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>they need to look like a real contender at nine

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:13.879
<v Speaker 1>and seven, ten and six, because this year we have

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:16.959
<v Speaker 1>a five, they could have to be a contender they

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<v Speaker 1>be at thank you, thank you, that's all. That's all

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to hear. I have to make the playoffs.

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 1>You're a contender. But okay, all right, good, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, Church, Come on Church that if you make

0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, you're contender. It's Washington a contender. They're gonna

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 1>be in the playoffs. Yes or no, that's a yes

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.680
<v Speaker 1>or no answer. Yes, Yes, they're they're contending for a

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl. Yes, okay, all right? Oh he means literally,

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 1>he means literal literally, Okay, I got you. That is

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>that's Barry Church saying that. You know, buck Nell University

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:52.679
<v Speaker 1>or Toledo makes the NCAA basketball tournament, they're a contender

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 1>because they got in. Even though so whats so was

0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>the New York Giants a contender? Where the New York

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Giants a contend in two thousand and seven and two

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>thousand and eleven when they snuck into the playoffs, were

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:08.920
<v Speaker 1>they contender? What was their record? Seven? There were ninety seven?

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:11.359
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I did anybody consider them? They got

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs, they ended up winning the Super Bowl? Church,

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 1>That's why are you hearing what I'm saying. I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>if we are, if we if we are below five

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:21.159
<v Speaker 1>hundred and make the playoffs, not nine and seven or

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.920
<v Speaker 1>tennant six. If we are below five hundred in a

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>division like we are now, you you bring up the Giants,

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>you got to say that they was two games above

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>five hundred. I'm told it is gonna be. It's gonna

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:36.119
<v Speaker 1>have a seven and nine winner again next year. Who

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 1>knows years? Seriously that eight nine years. You guys are

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>acting like this happens every season that the division has

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 1>a terrible person getting into the playoffs. That doesn't happen.

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Usually every years there's a winning record and those guys

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 1>are getting into the last two And when was the

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 1>last time that happened? Barry? The last two seasons, it

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>has been a scrape at the end trying to find

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a division winner in the NFC East And all right,

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 1>so it was the Philadelphia record, they were there, eight

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and eight, nine and seven, right, they were around that.

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>It was that a losing record. It was a nine

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and sevent team that ended up, you know, winning, scraping

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:15.679
<v Speaker 1>together wins down the stretch. There was a point in

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>time we're both teams, the Cowboys were sitting around here

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:21.959
<v Speaker 1>and they both had had bad records. I mean the

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 1>NFC East has been bad, the worst division in football

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 1>the past two seats, the worst division right now. Nobody's

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>got their own starting quarterback plant. But you're just gonna

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:33.879
<v Speaker 1>sit up here to soon next year it's gonna be better.

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>So you say, Carson Wentz is gonna be back to

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 1>what he was, that Washington's going somehow to be there

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:43.639
<v Speaker 1>next year. I'm just saying, because so what I'm saying, Okay,

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>all right, to break it down. So let's just say this,

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 1>nine and seven in the playoffs, to make it, to

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>make it simple. Nine and seven and going into the playoffs,

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>thank you. That's all. That's all he wanted to know.

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>That's all you want to know. Go ahead, go ahead,

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:01.199
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. No no, no, no no.

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>You said that, and then you backed up and said,

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:05.400
<v Speaker 1>as long as we make the playoffs. Let's two different things.

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.919
<v Speaker 1>H my god, go ahead with your point, man, Like

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling y'all, you gotta make the playoffs nine second.

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>That's it? Like what I mean, what the do you

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 1>want from me? Man? That's it. I've been waiting for that.

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I've been waiting for that. Flor Okay, So let's let's

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 1>so let's keep going with this. So let's keep going

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>with this, like, I mean, what's the what's the what's

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:24.239
<v Speaker 1>the what's the end point of this? Are we are

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>we gonna come to a point or we just wanted

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:28.199
<v Speaker 1>to know what I felt like. I mean, that's no

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>that that's the point because you know me, I like

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the rewind so next year when this stuff happened, I

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>don't when you start backpedaling, the backtracking back, I want

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>to make sure we got to some tape with the discussion.

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>We're just stop. Go ahead, all right, let's keep going,

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's keep going. Okay, all right, so so

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>so so the point is, the point is Mike McCarthy

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>has to make significant improvement over this year, uh going

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 1>into next year, and I'm saying within the next four

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>four seasons he has to make two playoff runs. In

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>the second needs to be pretty deep deep off in

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 1>there so they'll know that this guy is really becoming

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>a Super Bowl contemper. Especially if you signed Dak Prescott

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>to a four year deal, that means you got four

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 1>years to get this dude to a super Bowl. That's

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 1>what you if you pay out that kind of money,

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 1>that's what you're expecting in as many times as Jerry

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Jones is going on his radio show touting Mike's successes

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>in the past and the fact that he's won a

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl. Yes, Danny, that is to me, that is

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the expectation. And Mike McCarthy himself, I'll give him credit.

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>He said, look, we're here to win super Bowls. If

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>you're not trying to play for the Super Bowl, no

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>reason to be here. So to ask Mike McCarthy to

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>have two good playoff runs with this team and for

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>this team to be an an NFC championship game, I

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>don't think is an unrealistic expectation at all for him

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>if he fulfills this contract, I do not. I think

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that is minimum what should be expected from this football.

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Cool cook, cool with me. All right, let's let's take

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>a break. I'm starting Yeah, I'm starting to see I'm

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>starting to see a trend with you. I think every

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>show you say something a little bit out there that

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>makes it say wow. Yesterday you posed a question that

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>made me say wow, Really, berries think of that. Let's

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>dive into what you wanted to talk about yesterday. We

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't give enough time too, because this this may take

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>a little bit here to unpack between you McCray and

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<v Speaker 1>This has been a very y rough year for the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys and a tough year for Ezekiel Elliott, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the young running back's worst season in his career. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of factors have gone into that. Yesterday, when we

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<v Speaker 1>were formulating topics, one topic we didn't get to the

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<v Speaker 1>Barry had put forth was in the off season, do

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<v Speaker 1>you consider putting Ezekiel Elliott on the trading block? Church

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<v Speaker 1>follow up on the thinking there for do I consider it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it depends what the right offer comes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if somebody comes along and just says, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, a we want these guys talent, We're willing

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<v Speaker 1>to break bread with you. Guys. What do you guys think?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you hear him out. I don't think you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you don't go out there and say, no,

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>he this guy's untouchable. This is our this is our horse,

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>this is our backbone of our team. I don't think

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 1>he I don't think he's got that right now. So

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody were to come with, say, first round offer

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that, even a second, do you consider it?

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I don't know about y'all, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>I consider it. Listen, Neue, he called me crazy a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago when I said this, Uh, look, if

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy's not gonna use him how he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be used, then yes, go ahead and let Tony Paula

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>spin draft you a guy in the later rounds to

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<v Speaker 1>be the backup running back and move off from Zeke,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you're not gonna use the guy like he's

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<v Speaker 1>been used, the reason why he got the ninety million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Then then why have him here? Why why keep paying

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>him the same The same thing goes for all the

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>other players that get paid seventy eighty million dollars and

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>not getting the correct usage. If you're not gonna use

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>these guys and they're just gonna sit here and collect

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 1>ten fifteen million dollars a year, that you need to

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>find a way to get some value out of them,

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>because this offensive scheme is just not fit for Zeke

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.800
<v Speaker 1>right now and the way that he's used to handling

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 1>on the ball and using the running game. So I

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's crazy if Mike McCarthy and Keller Moore

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:16.359
<v Speaker 1>aren't going to use them, how you needs to be used?

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 1>All right, gentlemen, I'm just gonna go straight to the numbers. Okay,

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>this is a numbers question, and the way the Cowboys

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>have set up their numbers, you can't cut it. You

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>can't even trade them. It would cost you in deadcap

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>hit money. Okay, deadcap hit money. In twenty twenty one,

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty four point five million dollars to get rid of Zekiel,

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 1>and then in twenty twenty two it is ten point

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>eight million dollars. You're realistic out to get away from

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel Elliott's twenty twenty three. That's that's what the Cowboys

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.239
<v Speaker 1>have done it themselves in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two.

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.760
<v Speaker 1>The waves at this contract up you you've basically tied

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>this guy to the team. Give his agent, Rocky Arsenal

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of credit. Cowboys are stuck with number twenty one.

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 1>So to me, the conversation really you got to have

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>if you're Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones, is you go

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>down there to Mike McCarthy and Kelly Warren. You let

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 1>these guys know we're not getting out of this deal

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 1>for two years, and I need you to figure out

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:27.280
<v Speaker 1>how to use it. I heard somebody talking about trading

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper in the offseason, and I said, you know what, guys,

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>whenever you have these conversations, please go look at the

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>dead cap hit money Amari Cooper for the It's basically

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 1>a two year deal. It's this year, next year after that.

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>You could get out of the money with these deals,

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and basically all these deals you got to find where's

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the exit point all these deals where you're not killing

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>your cap and the deal here for ezekiel Man. You're stuck.

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:55.839
<v Speaker 1>That's really what it is. You're stuck. Well, we gotta

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>found a way to better use them, because right now,

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what does he getting twelve carries? Okay, here's

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>a game, go ahead. Yeah, And that's the only reason

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:07.959
<v Speaker 1>that the questions are being answered are being raised though,

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:10.720
<v Speaker 1>it is because not not of them and their talent.

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 1>We know a Mary Cooper can go out there and

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>catch ten balls. Again, we know that Zeke if given

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the right opportunities, he can go out there and get

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>ninety five one hundred yards a game. The question is

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>only being raised because of the plays that are being called. So,

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 1>like you said, Nui, the point is, if you're not

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>going to use the guys, then get them out of here.

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that you can't get them out of

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 1>here and and really have your team survived as far

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 1>as cap wise, that you need to go down and

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 1>have a real discussion with your offensive coordinating, the guys

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>who are putting the passing game together and let them

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 1>know that you want to see dis amount of uses

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 1>from these guys because they gave him a whole year

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and they never called on to it. And I go

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>back to just just take it a stay in the

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>division and look over at Carson Wentz. I'm looking at

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Carson Wentz is dead hit number, dead cap hit number

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:05.840
<v Speaker 1>for twenty twenty one. It is fifty nine point two

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>million dollars. You know, So the situation for the Eagles

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 1>is truly how do you fix this dude? So maybe

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 1>they end up firing Doug Peterson, And I know that

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 1>makes surprise. Some people are here because he won a

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl. But if you can't get anything out of

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Carson wins, and this coach is gonna think he can

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>get anything anymore that you can better go find somebody

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>who can, because this is sixty million dollars hit you

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 1>simply can't take. And you start looking at these numbers

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>for Cooper, you start looking at these numbers for Ezekiel,

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>even Tyrant Smith. You better find some folks who can

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 1>figure out how to get the best use of these players.

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>And you're getting ready to tie yourself up deep. But

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Doc Prescott, you've got to get people in here from

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a coaching standpoint who can figure it out. I hurt.

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Michael Lombardi say this on his podcast. He's like, Hey,

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>if you got a forty million dollar problem. Why not

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>spend ten million dollars on the guy to fix it?

0:37:56.920 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>And right now when you start looking at Ezekiel Elliott

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.839
<v Speaker 1>and then what you're gonna end up paying Doak Prescott. Um.

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>If Kellen Moore is not the guy to get this right,

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>then maybe you tell Mike McCarthy, I need you to

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 1>fix it. But somewhere along the way, they've got to

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:12.280
<v Speaker 1>get a return on investment for their money with these players,

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 1>because these players are going to be here. That's really

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>the bottom one. You're stuck with these guys, So you

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 1>better figure out how to get something out of No,

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm no contract, gurgle. So I'm gonna ask you a

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:25.320
<v Speaker 1>question about the dead cat money versus being able to

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 1>be traded. So you're saying if they are traded, that

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 1>that money still stays on us as dead cat money.

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>This is the money that you've agreed to. And look,

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'll say this, nobody's gonna trade for this contract.

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, for instance, if you want to trade for

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:45.479
<v Speaker 1>Carson Wentz's money, you're gonna have to trade for all

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 1>this cash. And nobody's going to sit up here and

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>pay these numbers. Um, it's ludicrous. If you start to look. Well,

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Carson Wentz is it's a little. It's worse. It's a little,

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot worse than the other guys that we mentioned.

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>You're looking at fifty. But but but I'm asking, are

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 1>they able to trade them and then still not have

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to take that dead cap hit like once you once

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you come up with a deal, I think all of

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 1>that is going off of your cap um. Well, it

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't work like that. I'm saying, Okay, so if you

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 1>trade him that dead cap, no, the dead cap, the

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>dead the dead cat is your signing bonus. So they

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 1>do your signing bonus. They spread it out over so

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 1>many years. So what happens is if you trade the person,

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>all those years that were sprout over gets backlogged to

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that year accelerat into one. Yes, so it doesn't accelerate

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 1>it will kay. Um going in here looking at dead

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.879
<v Speaker 1>cap hit money on Zeke's twenty four point nine, ten

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>point eight over the next two years, then twenty and

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>then you basically got it out after twenty twenty three. Um,

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>just looking at his base salary money, just base salary

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:56.280
<v Speaker 1>money for twenty twenty one is nine point six million

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>dollars um with a cap hit of thirteen point seve

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:01.399
<v Speaker 1>and he's got a signing boone on us A one

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:05.919
<v Speaker 1>five and an option to two six. And then next

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 1>year you get looking at a base out of twelve

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>point four million, signing bote us at one point five million,

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.279
<v Speaker 1>option to two point six million for a cap hit

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>of sixteen point five. If we just look and ask

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>ourselves these in today's NFL and looking at Ezekiel Elliott,

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>would it be wise for you to trade a first

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>round pick and take on this money or would it

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:25.439
<v Speaker 1>be better for you to go ahead and go into

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the draft and try and get somebody or a heck,

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.359
<v Speaker 1>you could even sign some dude right now. I'm not

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>saying Levia Bell's going to be the answer for a team,

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>but you know, you can go find some guys to

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 1>run the football. Kyle Shanahan has done that ended up

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 1>going to a Super Bowl. So I just think that

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:42.879
<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel Elliott and his trade value is not what some

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 1>people may think it is. Because you look at this

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 1>dude now you guys have talked about it doesn't look

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.479
<v Speaker 1>as quick as he used to. The numbers are down here.

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>He's already not practicing today because he's got the lingering

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:57.400
<v Speaker 1>effects of the calf issue. Offensive line's not as good.

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just don't think that he's anywhere close

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 1>to being a tradeable piece for what you think you

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>might be able to get for them. Yeah. Look like

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't think we should trade them. If

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:14.759
<v Speaker 1>you don't matter, worn't running back you get up here

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 1>in this offense. If you if you don't run them

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>and give them enough care, you give them enough such as,

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna be saying the same thing about the

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 1>next guy as well. So the solution is, you know,

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:23.839
<v Speaker 1>have Jerry or somebody to go down there and talk

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.399
<v Speaker 1>to McCarthy and Kellen Moore and let them know that

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 1>these guys need to be need to be used so

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 1>they get a return on their investment. Yeah, I think

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>you're right. You've got to use the talent. And look,

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>if Mike McCarthy and Kellen Moore want to go back

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>to the playoffs, I would think the wisest thing to

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 1>do is figure out how you can utilize twenty one

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:48.320
<v Speaker 1>to make your offense. For the offense where your quarterback

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 1>is throwing for no more than thirty passes a game

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and then running the football between Pollard and Ezekiel Elliott

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven to twenty eight times a game. It's something

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:01.919
<v Speaker 1>that can be done and doable, so they've they've got

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 1>to figure that out next year. To me, that's one

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.919
<v Speaker 1>of the biggest things that needs to be worked out

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 1>on this football team is trying to figure out how

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:11.399
<v Speaker 1>to become more balance out the run and pass. These

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:14.880
<v Speaker 1>forty times and fifty times and you've got your quarterbacks passing,

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a losing recipe for the Dallas Cowboys. You can

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:19.760
<v Speaker 1>just go down the list and look at the records

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.720
<v Speaker 1>or Dak Prescott, Tony Romo. When these guys are throwing

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 1>forty plus times a game, there's usually els that that

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>come with that. So it's pretty pretty uh to me,

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty scared when you start throwing up those numbers.

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 1>By the way, speaking of scary, UM, let me, with

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 1>all sincerity give my best wishes to Jason Garrett. Um.

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:42.359
<v Speaker 1>He's got COVID. Giants offensive coordinator has COVID and UM,

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 1>it is nothing to joke about. It is something to

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 1>take very serious, and so I hope Jason can get

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:50.720
<v Speaker 1>over it and and and be back in good shape.

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 1>We've seen a lot of guys in the NFL ab overcoming.

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 1>But you know, Jason is uh, you know, Jason's he's

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>not a player, He's not a young guy. I mean,

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Jason is in his fifties, so I'm hoping he's a

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 1>okay on this, guys. Yeah, definitely. H best wishes goes

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 1>out to Garrett out there man in New York. Like

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you said, man, he's not the youngest of the guys,

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:11.400
<v Speaker 1>but I mean he's a great guy. So hopefully he's

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 1>able to, you know, pull through through this and he'll

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>be back on the sidelines coaching soon. Yeah. Same here.

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:21.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, what's your first speedy recovery from him? And uh,

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, hope, hope everything goes well. Man at COVID

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>is serious. So everybody just make sure you stay safe

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>out there. All right. We got Thursday and that football.

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 1>The Las Vegas Raiders are hosting the Chargers what looks

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 1>like to be the last couple of games for Anthony

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>lenn his head coach. The Raiders are a three and

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 1>a half point favorite. Church who you got tonight? I

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 1>need a big game. I need a big game out

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 1>of Herbert tonight for as the fantasy playoffs, So I

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>gotta go with my guys out in Chargers Land. So

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:52.759
<v Speaker 1>for me, I gotta go Chargers twenty seven, Raiders twenty one.

0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:59.359
<v Speaker 1>You know what. I'm going Charges as well, but I'm

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:05.359
<v Speaker 1>going the thirty one twenty eight. The Raiders have lost

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of starters. I think they're down like four

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>or five starters. I don't know if it's COVID related

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 1>or injury related, but they're down a lot in a secondary.

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 1>So gotta have a big day out of Herbert. I

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:21.480
<v Speaker 1>got to well, well, well, gentlemen, I hate the fact

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that there's a lack of faith in the new defensive

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:27.759
<v Speaker 1>coordinator for Vegas, who I ain't. Am going to go

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 1>ahead and bed on all right, I'm sticking with you,

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Rod Mary Nellie getting the ship turned around, getting effort

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 1>turned around, and I'm going with the Raiders to take

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 1>it tonight thirty to twenty four in this football game.

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:43.400
<v Speaker 1>So Raiders in home Fairy by three and a half.

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Rob man Nellie comes through thirty twenty four. Boom, Raiders

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 1>like that? You like that, does Jeff? He's getting another

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:55.319
<v Speaker 1>interception this week? Man. I hope, so I said, I

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 1>hope not. I hope not. I hope Herbert torching the

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 1>boys from about three hundred and thirty. But you know,

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy how quick the tables can turn. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago. I mean the Raiders were

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<v Speaker 1>out there in Kansas City. I think he picked off

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my homes a couple of times, and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was hooting and hollering about this Raiders defense. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I look at DC, he's on his way, he's fired.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just crazy how things can turn so

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<v Speaker 1>quick in a season like that. Man, it is that man,

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<v Speaker 1>that that's how that's how it goes. But that's why

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<v Speaker 1>you got to play the sixteen man. December football and

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have played December football is where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we start to separate the men from the boys out here.

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, I think December is also where you decide,

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<v Speaker 1>you also see who can coach you know, can you

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<v Speaker 1>coach your guys to keep improving and getting better. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of truths to be told

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<v Speaker 1>about your football team in December and who you've developed

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<v Speaker 1>and where you're going with your program, because because that's when,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that's when these things start to get one

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<v Speaker 1>all right, it is fifteen after that is our show,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris being producer. Great job today, Church mccraig. Always fun

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<v Speaker 1>to chat with you. We'll give our predictions for forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine Ers and Cowboys tomorrow. I don't remember. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a noon game on Sunday at Jerry World, not a

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday night football game. Don't be upset by it because,

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<v Speaker 1>as Jalen Smith said, quote, if the owners cool with it,

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<v Speaker 1>we ain't tripping. We're good. All right, talk tomorrow right

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<v Speaker 1>here on Dallas Cowboys Down. This has been a production

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