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Speaker 3: Trade in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: As we know, the NFL has a lot of teams

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Speaker 4: jock in some trades, people being released, all kinds of

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Speaker 4: movement expected as the free agent frenzy is about to

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Speaker 4: hit us, and of course teams need to make moves

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Speaker 4: so that they free up money to make other moves.

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Speaker 4: Rob G you have the news. In Chicago there was

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Speaker 4: a movement with the Bear.

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Speaker 5: That's right, big movement with Rob's favorite team is favorite

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Speaker 5: quarterback Kayla will.

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Speaker 3: It's all about Caleb. I don't I ay al. We

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Speaker 3: are not playing the damn songus.

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Speaker 5: We are, we are not, we are f we are yes, Well,

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Speaker 5: Alex is looking for it.

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Speaker 4: I want to make sure that Keith understands where I

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Speaker 4: am with Caleb Williams. Where everybody else there were lukewarm

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Speaker 4: on the brother because he got painted nails or whatever.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't good. Rob, that's because he wasn't good. So

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, but go ahead, Rob to and.

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Speaker 2: Any of it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll get to Alex at efferting for it. Big

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Speaker 5: trade in the NFL. Kayleb Williams number one wide receiver gone,

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Speaker 5: traded to the Buffalo Bills. Josh Allen's got a new

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Speaker 5: number one wide receiver. In summary, the Bills are sending

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Speaker 5: a twenty twenty six second round picked to Chicago in

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Speaker 5: exchange for DJ Moore and a fifth rounder this year.

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Speaker 5: The Bills will be guaranteeing fifteen and a half million

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Speaker 5: dollars of More's twenty three and a half million dollar

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Speaker 5: base salary in twenty twenty eight to facilitate the deal.

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Speaker 5: So long story short, DJ Moore out of Chicago and

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Speaker 5: the Bears suddenly flush with cash.

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Speaker 3: No doubt about it. You got it, Alex, Here we go,

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Speaker 3: This is for you. Keith, Here we go. And then

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Speaker 3: I saw his tall I'm a believer and not a

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Speaker 3: trace of doubt in my mind. I'm in love with Kayleb.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna believe I couldn't leave him if.

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Speaker 2: I tried.

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Speaker 5: All right, after the last time we're playing it, because

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Speaker 5: it's gotta be the Sam Darnold version.

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Speaker 3: Remember he never paid up. I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it, all right, here we go. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna start here. Keith and I get it. I know

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Speaker 4: people hate to see you make move parts again. But

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Speaker 4: More was coming off some career lows fifty receptions, only

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Speaker 4: six hundred and eighty two yards, both career lows, six touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: and this was his third year with the Bears, and

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Speaker 4: that kind of production out of somebody else. Now for

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Speaker 4: they felt like, you know, here's this. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if it's a reason to celebrate because their receivers aren't

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Speaker 4: They don't move you because they think we can't win

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Speaker 3: That's not when you move people. You move people when.

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Speaker 4: You go you're making too much money and you weren't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bears won the trade.

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Speaker 6: When I saw this trade come out, I immediately thought

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Speaker 6: they lost that Denver Broncos game, and the Bills mafia

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Speaker 6: in in the draft. And what they will not do,

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Speaker 6: He's got two tight ends. He's got Khalil Shakir, he's

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Speaker 6: But what they won't do is put it on Josh Allen.

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Speaker 6: They will never just say Josh didn't play good enough,

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Speaker 6: Josh didn't take care of the football going into the half,

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Speaker 6: They're picking up fifteen million dollars of this contract and

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Speaker 6: they gave up a second round pick for DJ Moore.

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Speaker 6: You could draft hey, listen, We'll see how it plays out.

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Speaker 6: But to me, this is the Bills mafia being loud,

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Speaker 6: and this is them folding. This is Billy Bean folding saying, yeah,

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Speaker 6: we'll go get a guy. What's the price for aj Brown?

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Speaker 6: If you just paid this much for DJ Moore.

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Speaker 4: With you, I don't look at it as DJ Moore

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's had some good years and whatnot three

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Speaker 3: You don't give up on a guy like that.

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Speaker 4: If you really believe that he's a part of your offense,

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Speaker 3: You know, like you just don't go away from people

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Speaker 4: But they looked at it and said, not at twenty

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Speaker 4: nine million or whatever. He was right, olde. We can

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Speaker 4: do better. And again there are receivers out there, people

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's that kind of move today.

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Speaker 6: And for the Bears, if you go back and remember

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Speaker 6: Look at the season just and Fields just had. The

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Speaker 6: last two seasons Justin Fields had. That's a great point.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's listening to you.

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Speaker 6: DJ Moore, And then not for nothing, Ben Johnson comes

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Speaker 3: They don't need DJ Moore. DJ Moore.

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Speaker 6: He was never really as big on Kayleb Williams as

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Speaker 6: you are ever And even though Kayleb Williams threw him

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Speaker 6: the ball I met, there was one game I bet

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Speaker 6: on DJ Moore to score and he did. I think

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Speaker 6: it was the Niners game. Everybody scored, but DJ Moore.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, man, they don't even need this guy.

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Speaker 5: Big news coming down in the Bay. Now, you were

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Speaker 5: talking about this for a couple of weeks. Now on

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Speaker 5: the show, you've been saying, Rob, for a long time,

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Speaker 5: you didn't like the way Steve Kerr was handling Johnathan

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Speaker 5: kaminga right like you didn't like what was going on

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Speaker 5: play some as he doesn't, so they eventually trade him. Right,

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Speaker 5: He goes to Atlanta. In three games with the Hawks,

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Speaker 5: shocked at all, which led to most recently Steve Kerr

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Speaker 3: So, Mark Willard, it's a show in the Bay Area.

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Speaker 3: I know you don't I'll never listened to it. So

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Speaker 3: I'll sorry, you ain't gonna make it. Six years five

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Speaker 5: So Mark had Steve Kerr on his radio program yesterday

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Speaker 7: it won't matter for a few years, and I said,

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Speaker 7: I'll come He so well, because grown ups, grown ups

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Speaker 7: win championships. And it's true, it's really hard to come

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Speaker 7: the profession where the guy with the highest test scores

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Speaker 7: It just doesn't life doesn't work that way. And so

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Speaker 7: I think the when I when I think about any

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Speaker 7: frustration from our fans, it's probably just coming from this

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Speaker 7: It just doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 4: So lame, and I'm not surprised to hear that from

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Speaker 4: Steve Kerr. I would say if I was Mark willand

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Speaker 3: So what is it? Steve Kerr? Explain to me?

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Speaker 4: And thank god Mark Jackson got this thing started for

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Speaker 3: And I don't go there with it. That's what it is, Keith.

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Speaker 6: Everybody has played that game. How many rings does he

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Speaker 6: Team USA. Are we talking about Steve Smith or Steve Kerr?

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Speaker 6: Put some respect on his name. He's a man, he's sixty.

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Speaker 6: He's right, Rob, he's right with what he said. Now,

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Speaker 6: You have Stephen Clay and Draymond and all these role

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Speaker 4: He said, grown up win championships. I have nothing against him.

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Speaker 6: It's a cop out on you. You're a lot of

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Speaker 6: This is a guy that has won. This is a

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I rock with Steve Kerr. When I was a wee

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Speaker 3: He never got anybody but no but he. They were

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Speaker 4: Winner, no, and and and it's a cop out if

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Speaker 6: Championship over there, a championship, only a championship or bust

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Speaker 3: So we don't have time for all this. We got

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Speaker 6: Man's got the you know, the knee and jams, and

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Speaker 6: Draymond's got the podcast, and he figure out a way

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Speaker 4: Everybody knows the kid could play. Come on, Keith, you

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Speaker 4: know bad caball. That was a fumble. He fumbled all

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Speaker 3: He can't go off there.

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Speaker 6: He let Jordan Poole get stole off on at practice.

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Speaker 3: And that's another one.

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Speaker 4: He didn't even wasn't even man enough to discipline Draymond Green.

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Speaker 3: What coaches this? I don't even know this.

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Speaker 4: Steve Kerr, really Steve Kerr and Bruk willand let him

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Speaker 3: He does what has he done.

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Speaker 6: He's got FU championships as a player, he's won four.

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Speaker 6: As a coach, He's always been around winning. I think

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Speaker 6: I gotta just go back to the quote, grown ups

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Speaker 6: And then he even put it to every other type.

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Speaker 4: So nobody should drive, nobody should draft young players.

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Speaker 6: Right, so the draft to draft them. But you're gonna

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Speaker 6: I give you this?

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Speaker 4: And then I want to hear you stand on this

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Speaker 4: it's still a young team. They were the youngest team

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Speaker 3: It ain't true. It's a different league now, and they

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Speaker 6: The league a little more ready now, and you know

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Speaker 6: Can they do it again? He said, champion show? No, No,

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Speaker 6: no again. No, it ain't about I was sticking with

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Speaker 3: It takes time. You gotta learnt.

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Speaker 4: Average age last year okay, see ready, twenty five years old,

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Speaker 3: That's not growing up. Those are young kids.

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Speaker 6: Now in this nil era. These kids now are going

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Speaker 3: It's a mess right now. I kind of understand what

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Speaker 4: You're off the bench, Carusoe and Hartenstein. Come on, man,

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Speaker 4: Steve Kerr, here he is is passing the buck.

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Speaker 3: Don't blame me. I didn't do this. Young kid. They

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Speaker 6: Frou baby, that's what they are past though. If you

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Speaker 3: Feed the baby. I gotta change the baby. They don't

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Speaker 4: Let me walk them, let me put them in the

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Speaker 3: Stop it. I'm stopping. Like Jordan said, f them kids.

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Speaker 3: That's what curR is on.

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Speaker 4: Mark Jackson gets the credit for developing the young guys.

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Speaker 3: He hadn't have a ring on me. He didn't like it.

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Speaker 4: He didn't develop anybody at Golden State.

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Speaker 3: That's the crime of it.

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Speaker 4: Don't got it developed before he has to develop anybody too.

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Speaker 6: There are some coaches like Kenny Atkinson who was looked

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Speaker 3: They're like, all right, that's enough, we don't need a

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Speaker 4: Mark Jackson did all the heavy lifting, put him in

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Speaker 4: Kerr's name really got built off the back of KD

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Speaker 3: Steve Kerr zero.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't develop players, he doesn't respect fans, and he's

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Speaker 3: I'm out on Steve Kerr. He's done nothing for me.

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Speaker 4: And to get up there and have a lame excuse

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Speaker 6: He's a champ. He knows a thing or two about winning.

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Speaker 6: He ain't rocking with them kids. Them kids don't get it.

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Speaker 6: Grown ups win championships the end.

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Speaker 3: I'm with him. I hear you. He's sixty. He's a man.

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Speaker 3: Come at me. I'm a man. I'm sixty. Steve Kurtin

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Speaker 6: He's gonna try and win again, but not with some

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Speaker 3: Hey, oh up.

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Speaker 3: Celtic fans, I don't care.

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Speaker 4: They gotta be a static that Jason Tatum is coming

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Speaker 4: back and it only can help the Celtic That's right.

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Speaker 5: If you missed our two, we spoke about it with

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Speaker 5: Gary Washburn front of the show, long time NBA reporter

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Speaker 5: from the Boston Globe. Jason Tatum arguably the best Celtics

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Speaker 5: player of the last decade. We'll be making his return

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Speaker 5: to the court tomorrow night for the first time in

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Speaker 5: ten months after suffering a torn achilles tendon. He's coming

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Speaker 5: back not to some cellar dweller, not to some also ran,

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Speaker 5: not to some playoff hopeful, but to the second best

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Speaker 5: All NBA player allbe it coming off an achilles Jason

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Speaker 5: Tatum back in Boston.

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Speaker 4: And Keith I'm gonna tell you, people can poo poo

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Speaker 4: the Celtics all they want.

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Speaker 3: I know they rode them off.

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Speaker 4: Gary Washburn, just explain how they got rid of all

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Speaker 4: their veterans. This was supposed to be a punt season, right, No,

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Speaker 4: Jason Tatum, We'll see what we got. We're not gonna

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Speaker 4: pay these old guys to stick around. We're not winning anything.

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Speaker 4: Let's trade porzingis like they just cleaned house a little bit, right,

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Speaker 4: Al Horford to you, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Don't let the door hit you on the way out today.

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Speaker 3: Drew Holliday will helped him win a championship.

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Speaker 6: All that they got rid of Luke Cornett and he said,

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00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 6: no Magic City Night because they got rid of him.

437
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 3: There you go. But my point, my point though, is this.

438
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 4: With a seventy five eighty percent Jason Tatum they are

439
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 4: my favorites in the East. I don't want to hear

440
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 4: about the Pistons. I don't want to hear about the Knicks.

441
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear about the Calves. Look at

442
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 4: what they've been able to do to hold this together.

443
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 4: Jalen Brown has had an MVP type season, how and

444
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 4: now they're gonna add one of the best players back

445
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 4: to the mix, an All Pro or of for first

446
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 4: team NBA kind of player into the mix. And Jason Tatum.

447
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 4: There's only one reason that they lost to the Knicks

448
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 4: last year. They blewed up. They blew double digit fourth

449
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 4: quarter leads in each of the first two games.

450
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 3: And in those games.

451
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 4: Thanks for saying that, Boston shot a combined twenty.

452
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 3: Five for one hundred from three.

453
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 4: They missed seventy five threes in two games. That's why

454
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 4: the Knicks beat them. That's why the Celtics went bye bye.

455
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 4: There's no way they could ever duplicate that. It was

456
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 4: unbelievable to watch the Celtics, not the Pistons who can't

457
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 4: shoot threes either. I talked about that earlier, and not

458
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 4: the Cavaliers, even with James.

459
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 3: Harden, and not the New York Knicks. If the Celtics

460
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Speaker 3: play the way that they've played.

461
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Speaker 4: Everybody has talked about how great the Pistons have been

462
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 4: all year, and they have the number one seed in

463
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference and they have played great. But given

464
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 4: that the Celtics are only five games behind them with

465
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 4: twenty to play, and now they're getting arguably their best

466
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 4: player back, I'm all in on the Celtics. They win

467
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference.

468
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Speaker 3: Where are you, Keith?

469
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say I'm all in on them, but listen,

470
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 6: Joe Miszoula's name hasn't been dropped yet, and he's a

471
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 6: big reason why they don't fold. They did not tank,

472
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 6: They did not punt on the season. It's a culture thing.

473
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 6: They win. Winning organizations stay winning organizations for a reason.

474
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 6: They just have a certain way about them. They have

475
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 6: a mantra like they're looking at banners up there. They

476
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 6: got Lucky the leprechaun in the middle of the court.

477
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 6: They expect to win, their fans expect them to win.

478
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 6: They don't make excuses. Now they had a huge excuse

479
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 6: to make one of the best players in the game

480
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 6: goes down, right. They could have tucked their tails. They

481
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 6: could have felt sorry for themselves, but I think they're

482
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 6: looking for revenge. I Expectatum to come back. They will

483
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 6: slow play him, but then when they get to the playoffs,

484
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 6: it's go time and they want smoke with the Knicks.

485
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 6: They want to run it back. The Pistons also want

486
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 6: to redeem themselves for losing to the Knicks. The Knicks

487
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 6: fans around me here in New York are saying, hey,

488
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 6: it's our year, it's championship or bus you know, they

489
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 6: fired their coach, brought in Mike Brown because he's supposed

490
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 6: to get him over the hump. The Knicks fans thought

491
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 6: that they were for sure a shoe in to represent

492
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 6: the East. It is not anywhere near a shoeing now.

493
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 6: I think the Balton Boston Celtics, with their experience with

494
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 6: you know, doing it before two years ago, being champions,

495
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 6: they know what time it is when we get to

496
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 6: mid April, I think they're gonna be prepared. I won't

497
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 6: say that they're a lot, but it's like who else,

498
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 6: the Calves, the Pistons. They're gonna see a different looks

499
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 6: when Tatum comes back. What you saw in the regular

500
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 6: season literally won't matter because it's a different group. And

501
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 6: Tatum will be back even if he is at eighty percent.

502
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 6: Even if he is at eighty percent. With this team,

503
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 6: they're a winning culture, good head coach. They're gonna be

504
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 6: ready to push towards the finals.

505
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 3: Again.

506
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 4: This is an amazing thing, it really is. It tells

507
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 4: you about not giving up and not punting. And those

508
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 4: other guys in that locker room didn't go woe is me,

509
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 4: we don't have Jason Tatum. Let's just go through the motions.

510
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 4: They kept playing, they kept playing hard.

511
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: It is a testament to their coach, Missoula, it really is.

512
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 4: And now they find themselves in a perfect situation for

513
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 4: all that the Pistons have done, and they've done a

514
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 4: lot right as young team, and Kay Cunningham and him

515
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 4: coming into his own and whatnot. I still like the

516
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: Celtics the Knicks.

517
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 3: You're right.

518
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 4: It was supposed to be Mike Brown. I always say

519
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 4: they were looking to Harry hire Larry Brown, and they

520
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 4: hired Charlie Brown instead. And now you'll take a look

521
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 4: at the Knicks, and you're right. People thought here it is.

522
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 4: The Knicks are going to the NBA Finals. No Boston,

523
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 4: no Indiana. Right, the Bucks are out on the sidelines.

524
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 4: We already know about Cleveland. The Knicks have manhandled Cleveland

525
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 4: over the last couple of years. So there's nobody in

526
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 4: the way. And guess what, here come the Celtics, and

527
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 4: the Celtics have what you want.

528
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: I don't know, how do you feel if.

529
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 4: You're a Celtic and you've already put together the year

530
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 4: that they have number two in the Eastern Conference without

531
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 4: your star, and now he's coming back. He doesn't have

532
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 4: to be one hundred percent. They have a real shot

533
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 4: to get to the finals. Nobody could have ever imagined

534
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 4: that coming into the season. Everywhere I read and everywhere

535
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 4: I looked, the Celtics were.

536
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: Written off and here we are.

537
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 6: I watched some lose to the Brooklyn Nets this year,

538
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 6: like the Nets have fifteen wins, they beat the Celtics.

539
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: People were like they're.

540
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 6: Cooked, and again it's a testament to their coaching and

541
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 6: their culture. They kept themselves at the top of the league,

542
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 6: they kept themselves at the top of the East, and

543
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 6: they get their guy back. It's unpredictable. You can't predict sports.

544
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 6: That's why you can bet on it. That's why we

545
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 6: go watch it, and we don't know what's gonna happen here.

546
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 6: But I know they got to be hella confident getting

547
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 6: Tatum back. And then it also is insurance. And guess

548
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 6: you know, in case somebody else goes down, right, if

549
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 6: you lose one of the guys you've been dependent on, Well,

550
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 6: here comes Tatum, right, and they'll expand his role. They

551
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 6: made the trade for Vucevich, like you know, they made

552
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 6: little moves here and there. Some of the younger guys

553
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 6: have evolved. I think they're in prime position to get

554
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 6: back to the finals two years after winning it and

555
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 6: try to avenge that loss against the Knicks and then

556
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 6: experienced plays the Pistons. They played one round last year,

557
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 6: they lost all their games at home. Well, here it is,

558
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 6: and I want you guys to make a case. I

559
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 6: made my case for the Celtics.

560
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: I want Rob g to make his case for the

561
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 4: Pistons because he's adopted the Pistons Detroit basketball, right, Alex

562
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 4: and all that, right, But I want you Keith to

563
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 4: make the k for the Knicks because the Knicks are there,

564
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 4: So go ahead, and then we'll throw it out to

565
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 4: everybody listening to the odd couple, who are you gonna

566
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 4: be behind? I already made my case for the Celtics.

567
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 4: Go ahead, the Knicks. Can they get in the Eastern

568
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 4: Conference Finals?

569
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: As a known Nicks hater, I can do this.

570
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 6: I can do this. I'm a Nets fan from Jersey.

571
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 6: But listen, the Knicks are never this consistently good. They

572
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 6: got rid of Tom Thibodeaux for a reason. They felt

573
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 6: like he was a dinosaur. They felt like he could

574
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 6: not get them over the hump and take them to

575
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 6: the promised Land. They went knocking on doors. They said, hey,

576
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 6: can we get Jason Kidd, Hey can we get Quinn Snyder?

577
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 6: Hey can we get Billy Donovan? Will take anybody? Mike

578
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 6: Brown good enough? What can Brown do for you? As

579
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 6: of late, their defense is one of the best in

580
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 6: the NBA. As of late, those guys are playing and

581
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 6: they're locked in their focus. As of late, Karl Anthony

582
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 6: Towns is playing a lot better. No stupid fouls, He's

583
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 6: staying in the post. And I think if they're healthy

584
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 6: keyword healthy. They've had a ton of injuries this year.

585
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 6: They feel like they have the experience, They feel like

586
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 6: they have the group og Nanobi, Michale Bridges, Josh Hart,

587
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 6: Jalen Brunson, the Clutch, Player of the Year, Captain Clutch.

588
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 6: They feel like they even have the bench pieces as well.

589
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 6: They go at Jose Alvarado GTA five the Junkyard Dog

590
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 6: like they have some different in changeable pieces that they

591
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 6: feel like they match up well against whoever, especially in

592
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 6: the playoffs with home court advantage in the Mecca, the

593
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 6: world's most famous arena. The Knicks, No, they won the

594
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 6: NBA Cup. They don't want to raise that banner. The

595
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 6: only banner that they want to raise and that Knicks

596
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 6: fans expect them to raise, is the twenty twenty six

597
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 6: NBA Champions banner.

598
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: All right, Rob g you know what your adopted team is? God,

599
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 4: I love that. Let's wish I was from Detroit right now.

600
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 4: That's Mason. Mason is the best, no doubt friend of

601
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 4: the show. Look, I don't know what you guys are

602
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 4: talking about right now. I don't think y'all are elite

603
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 4: ball nowhere, such as myself. Okay, me and Calvin Washington,

604
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 4: Alex Tyscher, Martin Wise. We were on the Bistons train

605
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 4: since nineteen eighty seven, Rob Parker, nineteen eighty seven.

606
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: Have you seen what they've been doing to teams?

607
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 5: This year, I have Cade cunning Am the best American

608
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 5: born player in basketball self proclaimed allegedly.

609
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: I don't believe that part. But listen.

610
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 5: Detroit twenty one and eight on the roads, second best.

611
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: Road record in the NBA.

612
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 5: They are a combined six and one against the Knicks

613
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 5: and the Celtics, your two favorite teams, you guys are

614
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 5: talking about, like, oh, worried about the Celtics, are worried

615
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 5: about the Knicks. The Pistons smack both of those teams

616
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 5: every time they play. The regular They are eleven and

617
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 5: two after a loss this season. Guys, they are one

618
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 5: of only two teams or three teams in the NBA

619
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 5: who have not lost more than back to back games

620
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 5: all season. How are you gonna beat a team like

621
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 5: that four times out of seven in the series, Rob Parker.

622
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: You're not going to They won. Going on, Detroit basketball

623
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: is back.

624
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: They've won two playoff games, ready, Keith in seventeen years,

625
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 4: and they're gonna run to the finals.

626
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: Rob g two playoff wins in seventeen on the road. Rob,

627
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: That's what they do.

628
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: They're road warriors.

629
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Speaker 5: The Detroit Pistons are the best team in the Eastern Conference,

630
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 5: not buying it