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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. Wednesday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off.

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Speaker 1: Now a lot to talk to you about. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us here. We've got we got more on this

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Speaker 1: whole signal chat thing.

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Speaker 2: Will work you through some of this.

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Speaker 1: I think increasingly clear that they're making a mountain out

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Speaker 1: of a molehill a tempest than a teapot. It's one

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Speaker 1: thing to say, Okay, it's not great, we got to

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Speaker 1: fix this. It's another thing to say, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: how could we ever ever trust these people ever again?

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Speaker 1: That they just hate Trump and everybody who works for them,

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Speaker 1: So we have to keep that in mind. We will

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Speaker 1: discuss though the latest details that more chat isn't interesting.

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Speaker 1: Claim a day ago Jeffrey Goldberg is, oh, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I can release this stuff, it's so sensitive.

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Speaker 2: And then he releases it today.

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Speaker 1: What a big surprise, almost like this is all a

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Speaker 1: political hit and not really having anything to do with

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Speaker 1: national security, which I will also point out was not

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Speaker 1: harmed in this. I talked to you yesterday about the

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Speaker 1: classification system and how it is all built upon perceived

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Speaker 1: possible harm like Top Secret would be grave, grave damage

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Speaker 1: to US national security interests. Confidential is moderate damage to

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Speaker 1: US national security interests. It's an imprecise thing. This is

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Speaker 1: more art than science in a lot of ways. But well,

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Speaker 1: we'll give you the details on this, because I don't

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Speaker 1: want your angry neighbor when you're trimming the hedges or

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Speaker 1: whatever or mowing the law and to be able to shadow.

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Speaker 2: Did you see about the signal chat and you're like, no,

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Speaker 2: I didn't see. We'll tell you about it so you'll know.

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Speaker 1: Also, we are enjoying the spectacular downfall of Disney with

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Speaker 1: more from the snow White megaflop that is underway right now.

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Speaker 1: The IMDb ratings, the finger pointing has begun, Clay about

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Speaker 1: who is to blame for this thing to be such

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Speaker 1: a mess, So that is to be something that we

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Speaker 1: will dive into. And then we've got a Congresswoman Jasmine

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Speaker 1: Crockett play I'm sure you saw this after calling Governor

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Speaker 1: Abbott hot wheels. Governor Abbot, who is wheelchair bound because

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Speaker 1: of a tragic accident, has been for I don't know

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Speaker 1: fifty years, forty years now. She says that she was

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Speaker 1: not referring to him in a wheelchair, that that had

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 3: That's first of all, I admired the blatant lie because

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Speaker 3: it's so ridiculous. What is her exploit? Have any I

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Speaker 3: didn't even see this? What is her explanation for what

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Speaker 3: she was referring to if she wasn't referring to him

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Speaker 3: being in a wheelchair?

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Speaker 1: Do you want me to tell you now? Or should

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Speaker 1: we keep our audience on the edge of their seats

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Speaker 1: and get you to see genuinely have no idea. I'm

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Speaker 1: curious what the spin is here. I have not seen this.

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Speaker 1: I think you'll have to stay with us to the

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Speaker 1: bottom of the hour, and I will tell you what.

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Speaker 2: It's all a good tease.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to be able to leave, you know.

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Speaker 2: I want you guys to stay with us here. Let's

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Speaker 2: start with this.

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Speaker 1: We had the DNI Telci Gabbard, and I keep telling

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Speaker 1: you this because, as it's true, the best thing she

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Speaker 1: can do is to fix the eye of the intelligence

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Speaker 1: community to the best of her ability and then come

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Speaker 1: forward and say that there should no longer be a

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Speaker 1: DNI because they shouldn't because it's absurd.

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Speaker 2: But that's not policy's fault. She's doing a great job.

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Speaker 1: She spoke this morning about the signal chat situation, and

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Speaker 1: here is what she said, play cup one.

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Speaker 4: It was a mistake that a reporter was inadvertently added

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Speaker 4: to a signal chat with high level national security principles

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Speaker 4: having a policy discussion about imminent strikes against the Huthis

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Speaker 4: and the effects of the strike. National Security Advisor has

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Speaker 4: taken full responsibility for this, and the National Security Council

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Speaker 4: is conducting an in depth review along with technical experts

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Speaker 4: working to determine how this reporter was inadvertently added to

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Speaker 4: this chat. The conversation was candid and sensitive, but as

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Speaker 4: the president National Security Advisor stated, no classified information was shared.

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Speaker 4: There were no sources, methods, locations, or war plans that

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Speaker 4: were shared. This was a standard update to the National

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Speaker 4: Security Cabinet that was provided alongside updates that were given

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Speaker 1: Clay, this is an internal, senior level, a senior level

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Speaker 1: deliberation of national security officials in the government. Somehow an

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Speaker 1: American journalist got access to it, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: just an oversight in error, one that will not be replicated.

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Speaker 1: And I'm already kind of tired of talking about it,

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Speaker 1: but I just don't want to let anybody leave anybody

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Speaker 1: Oh but did you see the latest or did you

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Speaker 1: see more? But this is a this is a political hit.

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Speaker 1: They've had nothing to attack Trump with other than the

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Speaker 1: stock market went down today, the price of eggs is high,

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Speaker 3: So the one thing I will say is it definitely

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Speaker 3: feels more and more calculated to me the way that

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Speaker 3: this has been released, because they're trying to turn it

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Speaker 3: into a multi day story as opposed to a one

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Speaker 3: you believe this happened? I guess it was actually the

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Speaker 3: day before yesterday, right, This initially happened on Monday afternoon,

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Speaker 3: of have died down and basically ended. And then this

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Speaker 3: morning more of the text change text chain is released,

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Speaker 3: and I wonder if Goldberg is keeping more of the

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Speaker 3: text chain to try to have a third bite at

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Speaker 3: the apple, so to speak, to keep the story getting

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Speaker 3: a lot of attention. I think in general, the fact

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Speaker 3: it look more incompetent than malicious, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: And I also think that one reason this is not

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Speaker 3: going to I agree with you in terms of how

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Speaker 3: many days it's going to go on, but one reason

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Speaker 3: it's not going to be a never ending, multi day

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Speaker 3: story is because there was no hypocrisy by and large

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Speaker 3: in what we've seen so far on the text chain

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Speaker 3: that was released publicly that is different than really what

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Speaker 3: people would say privately. And usually these stories blow up

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Speaker 3: was being said publicly was very different than what was

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Speaker 3: being discussed privately. And we've seen, for instance, a lot

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Speaker 3: of the emails around COVID, when you saw the scientists

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Speaker 3: whether it might have happened, or whether COVID was created

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Speaker 3: But then when they all went out in public, they

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Speaker 3: who do you think trust the national security experts less

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Speaker 3: we talked about this, the FBI raided his house and

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Speaker 3: weeks ago they gave him all back to him. Buck.

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Speaker 3: Did you notice when he was on air Force air

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Speaker 3: that they had seized that they were going to try

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Speaker 3: him back to him. I just think that that capstone

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Speaker 3: If these papers are so dangerous. I know, he's the

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Speaker 3: a lot of this is bureaucratic rigmarole in the way

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Speaker 1: I think the people who are particularly critical of this

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Speaker 1: in public, again, it's a mistake. There's no question they've

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Speaker 1: admitted that it's a mistake. But nothing bad happened, right,

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Speaker 1: The no harm, no foul principle should apply to things

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Speaker 1: like this, just like it does everything else in life.

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Speaker 1: The strikes happened the who thi's and if people say

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Speaker 1: huti and who thie? By the way, and it has

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Speaker 1: to do with the transliteration from the Arabic Modern Standard

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Speaker 2: Gonna get the pronunciation. Police. I know you're out there.

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Speaker 2: I know you're cruising.

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Speaker 1: Around with your aviators on and your State trooper hat,

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Speaker 1: So I am well aware of the differentiation between HOODI

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Speaker 1: Nothing happened. Look, the problem that I have had in

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Speaker 1: something really sensitive in there that shouldn't be in a

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like that's going to happen right now

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Speaker 1: now they've been released, unless he's holding something back and

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Speaker 1: setting a trap for the people that were coming forward

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Speaker 1: to speak about this. But you know, you asked us, okay,

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Speaker 1: what what happened? The strike occurred. There's no reason to

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Speaker 1: about this. The the I don't know how Jeffrey Goldberg

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Speaker 1: got added it. Somebody added him, Okay, like that. I

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Speaker 1: don't like being talked to like we're idiots. There's a little,

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Speaker 1: of this stuff, like we don't know we need to

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Speaker 1: have the smartest tech minds. No, you guys, someone mistakenly

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's not let's not do this thing.

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Speaker 1: Where is the Atlantic hacking into the Atlantic, which is

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Speaker 1: run by and and you know, full of staffed by imbeciles,

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Speaker 1: is not hacking into signal with top principles of the

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Speaker 1: United States government national security complex. Somebody made an oopsie,

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Speaker 1: nothing bad happened. Don't make another oopsie. And the Democrats

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Speaker 1: are doing what they always do, which is just find

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Speaker 1: some way to make this all about attacking the people

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Speaker 2: That's that's really what this comes down to.

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Speaker 3: One thing I have thought about this, and I agree

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Speaker 3: with a lot of that. How many different other signal

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Speaker 3: chats are currently underway on the group text chain. In

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Speaker 3: other words, if we've got one dealing with the UTI

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Speaker 3: bombing that's going to be taking place, are there ten

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Speaker 3: other group chats? This is one thing I am thinking about,

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Speaker 3: And are we certain that everybody on those group chats

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Speaker 1: want to hear this I have not seen. This is

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Speaker 1: first time for Clay. So you're getting this in real time.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of you will be getting this

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Speaker 1: in real time.

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Speaker 2: Quote.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about the governor's condition. I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about the planes, trains, and automobiles he used to transfer

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Speaker 1: migrants into communities led by black mayors, deliberately stoking tension

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Speaker 1: and fear among the most vulnerable. Literally, the next line

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Speaker 1: I said was that he was a hot ass mess,

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Speaker 1: referencing his terrible policies. At no point did I mention

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Speaker 1: or allude to his condition. So I'm even more appalled

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Speaker 1: that the very people who unequivocally support Trump, a man

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Speaker 1: known for his rationally insensitive nicknames and mocking those with disabilities,

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Speaker 1: are now outraged.

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Speaker 2: Clay.

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Speaker 1: One, she didn't write this. Two, No one believes this.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't believe it. Her supporters don't believe it.

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Speaker 2: We don't believe it. What is she doing?

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Speaker 3: I just I don't think she's very intelligent. I mean,

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Speaker 3: and we said that about AOC I think AOC is

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Speaker 3: a next level smarter than Jasmine Crocket. I just I

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Speaker 3: don't know who the Jasmine Crockett constituency is. I understand

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Speaker 3: that she has a congressional district. I presume if our

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Speaker 3: team can look it up, I presume that it is

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Speaker 3: one of the congressional districts that the state of Texas

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Speaker 3: has basically loaded with Democrats. Right. Unfortunately, to a large extent,

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Speaker 3: most congressional districts are not actually that competitive. There's four

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty five of them nationwide. I think there's

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Speaker 3: about thirty that in any given year now can swing

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Speaker 3: one direction or the other. Both parties have jerry mander

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Speaker 3: to such an extent that they have guaranteed themselves the

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Speaker 3: maximum number of seats in the states that they control,

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Speaker 3: and they have stuffed a lot of Democrats in seats,

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Speaker 3: or they've stuffed a lot of Republicans in seats. So

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing Jasmine Crockett is representing one of those seats,

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Speaker 3: and so there is no requirement that she in any

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Speaker 3: way be a reasonable person. Having said that, I encourage

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Speaker 3: her to keep talking. I think that every time Jasmine

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Speaker 3: Crockett opens her mouth Republicans gain more supporters and she

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Speaker 3: doesn't gain anyone, and this is not a spot you

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Speaker 3: want to be in. It can be simultaneously the case

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Speaker 3: that it's goven for her career to be saying the

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Speaker 3: things that she's saying because she is in a safe

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Speaker 3: seat in the state of Texas, I think the Houston

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Speaker 3: area somewhere, and she can't be removed because she's seen

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Speaker 3: as a powerful person in Democrat politics. But it can

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Speaker 3: also be the case that she is lighting on fire

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Speaker 3: her ability, her ability to grow the overall Democrat party

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Speaker 3: by the way, uh Dallas not Houston area district. And

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Speaker 3: I just encourage her to keep talking, and that is

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's when you're attacked. The basic pr move

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Speaker 3: now is to pivot on your attack and immediately double

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Speaker 3: and triple down on the attack that you made in

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Speaker 3: the first first place. So she immediately goes after Trump

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Speaker 3: for being racist and whatever, it'senophobic, whatever she wants to

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Speaker 3: accuse him of. But everybody knows, I mean, the governor

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Speaker 3: is in a wheelchair. Do you really you don't think

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Speaker 3: if she's too dumb to recognize that calling him governor

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Speaker 3: hot wheels is like, let's presume that might actually be

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Speaker 3: worse than being a nasty person who would who would

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Speaker 3: make fun of that kind of additionubility, she would actually

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Speaker 3: be so dumb that she wouldn't even conceive of like no,

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Speaker 3: no light bulb goes off in her head when she's

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Speaker 3: like he's literally in a wheelchair and you're mocking him

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Speaker 3: using wheels. I mean, come on, like that's she. If

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Speaker 3: she's truly that dumb, it's even worse. Almost the pivot

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Speaker 3: you talked about, the pr pivot. Was it Harvey Weinstein,

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Speaker 3: if memory serves this is like.

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Speaker 1: A decade ago, who said, when the allegations came out

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Speaker 1: about him, I'm going to dedicate myself to fighting the NRA.

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Speaker 2: Was it Harvey Weinstein who did that?

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Speaker 3: I think that's really funny.

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Speaker 1: Which was one of the It was like it was like,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, I was not sexually assaulting all these women,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to redouble my efforts against the NRA.

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Speaker 3: Was it Kevin Spacey who came out for the first

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Speaker 3: time is gay. As soon as he got charged with

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Speaker 3: sexually inappropriate behavior. Somebody came out, Well, there.

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Speaker 2: Was the governor.

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Speaker 1: The governor of New Jersey had a I had like

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Speaker 1: I think it was his And again, guys, I'm going

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Speaker 1: on memory.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember everything.

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Speaker 1: I think it was his lover. He was married to

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Speaker 1: a woman, and I think he had kids. I forgot

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Speaker 1: remember greed he was gay, Yeah, and then came out

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Speaker 1: and said I am a gay American when he had

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Speaker 1: gotten his like boyfriend basically some senior level six figure job,

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Speaker 1: like a no show job in the Jersey state government,

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Speaker 1: and it turned into this whole scandal.

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Speaker 2: Guys. Facts, Sorry, we're throwing a lot of fact checks

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Speaker 2: that you in real time.

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Speaker 1: I think Joe Harvey Weinstein was the one who pulled

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Speaker 1: the NRA thing, which was just like kids, It's like, hey, hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: I know everyone's thinking that i did all these terrible

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Speaker 1: things to women, but I'm going to write a check

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Speaker 1: to fight the NRA right now.

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Speaker 2: And that was supposed to get him out of it.

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Speaker 3: Well, and a lot of people did the This is

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Speaker 3: probably years and years ago, but you remember anytime you

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Speaker 3: did something bad, you just went to rehab. Like for

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Speaker 3: in Hollywood, the number one move for like twenty years

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Speaker 3: was oh so and so did so and so, and

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Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, I'm just going to rehab. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that doesn't really happen anymore. It's like, we don't give

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Speaker 3: the rehab card the same way, so now it is

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Speaker 3: very odd like that. I think it was Kevin Spacey

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Speaker 3: who was like, you know, actually I'm gay and I'm

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Speaker 3: just being targeted because I'm gay.

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Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, I actually nailed it with the

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Speaker 1: recall in this one. I've pulled this one up, Clay

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Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein, this is back in. I said it was

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Speaker 1: a decade ago. Is that right, yeah, twenty seventeen, so

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Speaker 1: basically a decade ago. He said, this is amazing. Remember

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Speaker 1: this guy was accused. I mean he's serving time I

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Speaker 1: think still, or I think he one of his convictions

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Speaker 1: got overturned, but he has served time for rape. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure what the current adjudication of his cases is,

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Speaker 1: but he went to prison for a long time.

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Speaker 2: But when this was all coming.

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Speaker 1: Out, he said, this is true. I've decided that I'm

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Speaker 1: going to give the NRA my full attention. He is

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Speaker 1: determined to quote channel his anger toward the National Rifle Association.

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Speaker 1: That that was really his pivot, that was his go to.

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Speaker 1: It's like, hey, I know you think that I'm a

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Speaker 1: rapist or I'm I've been charged by women on the

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Speaker 1: record and by law enforcement with sexual assault. But I

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Speaker 1: really hate the NRA, so let's focus on what matters

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Speaker 1: here now. That didn't work for him, But I just

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Speaker 1: think that that may be the most outlandish pivot of

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Speaker 1: that kind I can remember. But uh, Jasmin Krockett pulling

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Speaker 1: the oh, I wasn't making fun of governor hot wheels

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Speaker 1: in a wheelchair. By the way, Trump is really bad.

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Speaker 1: What does that have to do with anything? Correct, with anything.

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Speaker 1: It's a very predictable pivot.

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Speaker 3: But again, I love your idea of him putting flames

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Speaker 3: on actually be really funny for his next press conference.

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Speaker 3: If he came out with the hot wheels flames on

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Speaker 3: his wheels, I would definitely wear the governor hot wheel.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think it's a bad nickname, honestly,

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Speaker 3: like and it definitely throws it back in her face

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Speaker 3: and makes it very funny. I think that would I

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Speaker 3: think that would be phenomenal. I would encourage the governor

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Speaker 3: to take that move because I think even people who

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Speaker 3: don't like Greg Abbott would respect the sense of humor

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Speaker 3: that he is showing. Uh. And obviously he's a very

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Speaker 3: accomplished guy. And to your point, I mean a tree

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Speaker 3: fell on him when he was out, I think jogging

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Speaker 3: in his in his twenties, a horrible, acrible, awful. So yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Kevin Spaceybuck did also come out as gay as soon

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Speaker 3: as he was accused of sexual misconduct. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: by the way, guys, I'm gay, you know, like, well, okay,

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Speaker 3: but you are accused of sexual misconduct. That was that

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Speaker 3: was that very I feel like.

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Speaker 1: We can look back now at this at the rise

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Speaker 1: of Remember they used to talk about intersectionality all the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is the pseudo scientific description of a society that's

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Speaker 1: just all these interlocking oppressed groups, right, and there's this

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Speaker 1: hierarchy of oppression and everyone's a pressed We don't they

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Speaker 1: don't even use the term really anymore. But with the

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Speaker 1: rise of inter sectionality, there was the oh, I'm in trouble.

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Speaker 1: I have to retreat into the bunker of my oppressed

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Speaker 1: group as fast as possible.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: That was the move right.

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Speaker 3: But gay people, even like even gay people on the

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Speaker 3: Kevin Spacey thing, were like, no, you get to come

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Speaker 3: out and be like I'm being targeted because he was

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Speaker 3: accused Remember Buck initially of sleeping with a fourteen year

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Speaker 3: old boy.

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Speaker 1: So I think, no, no, I think I no, no,

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Speaker 1: I think it was I think it was making a

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Speaker 1: move on. I don't think I maybe here, well I

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Speaker 1: don't think. Let's see, well.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, he was accused of something back in sexual advances.

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Speaker 2: It's sexual advances.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he did not actually then there's a distinction there,

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Speaker 1: but there he did anyway, Yeah, he uh, he complete.

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Speaker 1: He also has always. I don't think he ever was

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Speaker 1: charged with anything, was he he's always.

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Speaker 3: I think he beat the charges in England.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, in England.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was actually yeah, but yeah, he did

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Speaker 1: do the pivot.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. We are

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Speaker 3: scheduled to be joined by our good friend Bill O'Reilly

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Speaker 3: at the top of the next hour. Brad in Vero Beach,

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Speaker 3: Florida wants to weigh in. Brad, what you got for us?

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Speaker 6: Good afternoon. Hey, what I want to say is that

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Speaker 6: I think this journalist that got copied in this thread

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Speaker 6: is actually the best journalist. Being the most critical, he's

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Speaker 6: going to find any morse morsel, or at least try

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Speaker 6: that he can, and the dog doesn't hunt. If it

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Speaker 6: was a friendly journalist, then the media would be spinning

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Speaker 6: it well, that there's got to be more there. You know,

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Speaker 6: it's worse than they're saying.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate the call, I disagree. I don't think the

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Speaker 3: story would have ever come out if it were a

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Speaker 3: friendly journalist because I think, again, I can just use

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Speaker 3: Bucking myself as examples. We text some with these guys, right,

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Speaker 3: if somehow we ended up on a text thread that

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Speaker 3: we weren't supposed to be on that was dealing with

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Speaker 3: major security issues, we would just be like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 3: I don't think I'm supposed to be on EST's talk

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Speaker 3: to you soon. I'm deleting my text right now and

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Speaker 3: just fyo, I'm taking myself off this thread one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, I think that should be the

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Speaker 3: case for anyone, just as normal cultural standard. If you're

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Speaker 3: on a text thread, group text that you're not supposed

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Speaker 3: to be on, or an email thread or anything else.

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Speaker 3: Instead of allowing yourself to continue to see the messages,

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Speaker 3: screenshotting all of them so that you can later turn

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Speaker 3: it into a story, you should, I think ethically admit

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Speaker 3: that you shouldn't be there. I mean, I mean, let me.

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Speaker 2: Really what what's what's the story? The story here.

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Speaker 1: Is that they want us to believe that because someone

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Speaker 1: in this chat pushed the wrong button on the phone,

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Speaker 1: that they're all irresponsible and someone should get fired. No,

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Speaker 1: I just just know, sorry, Like that's I don't I

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Speaker 1: agree with that.

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Speaker 3: I think you can acknowledge a screw up, But what

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Speaker 3: happened here and you want to look at and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: how do we not how do my.

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Speaker 1: Point Clay's mistakes happened? Like I've been in war zones

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Speaker 1: where people are handling classified information and it's not perfect. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if people are doing their best and operating in good faith,

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Speaker 1: you have to give them a little leeway on this stuff.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to make this mistake again, and nothing

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Speaker 1: bad happened, So what do we you know, how much

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Speaker 1: more time to spend on this?

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Speaker 2: Not you and me?

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Speaker 3: Well in the country, the morality and the ethics. From

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Speaker 3: a goldbird perspective, the reporter is I I think he

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Speaker 3: actually is in the wrong here. He should have raised

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Speaker 3: his hand immediately said I'm not supposed to be on

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Speaker 3: this thread, instead of waiting, screenshotting everything and trying to

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Speaker 3: humiliate and embarrass the Trump official. Now, I think it's unfortunate.

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Speaker 3: To the caller's point, I think it's unfortunate that it

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Speaker 3: ended up being him, because I think the vast majority

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Speaker 3: of media would not have behaved as he did and

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Speaker 3: would not have turned this into a huge story. In fact,

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Speaker 3: I don't think most of them would have gone public

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Speaker 3: with it because it's an inadvertent error. They would have

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Speaker 3: reached out. We'll talk about this with Bill O'Reilly, what

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Speaker 3: does he think? And we'll continue to let you guys

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