1 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Dagdam. 2 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: I'm kind of honest. Stephen Spriin, Sexton and John Oser 3 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: are with me today as we get ready to talk 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: to you about OTA's the unofficial kind of start to 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: the offseason workouts, and that's our big thing Number one 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: OTAs Brian, we kind of make fun of this time 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: of year sometimes, but with a new regime coming in, 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: this is really important. And we saw pretty great turnout 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: from the players yesterday. I don't want to say it 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: was one hundred percent, but I think only a couple 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: of faces were missing, and seeing everybody buy in this 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: early is really good to see. 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: Well, listen to all of the players from the quarterback 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: going down talk about the energy with this young staff 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 3: and the newness that comes with it, and they're. 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: All obviously revitalized by the fact. 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: That they finished four and thirteen last year, and anything 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: would be better than that. I'll tell you what I 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: was most interested in was when you look at the 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: roster that they hand out to the members of the 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 3: media by offensive line, there weren't tackles or guards or center. 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: It was all ol right. 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: And so that's interesting because we've been into OTA's in 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: the last couple of years we knew there was maybe 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: a competition between Cam Robinson and Walker Little at left tackle, 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 3: but you here's Ezra Cleveland and they signed Mitch Morse 27 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: last year. You kind of knew who it was and 28 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: where they were going to be. John, It's fascinating to 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: see it all jumbled up and not really have any 30 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: delineations of who's where or when. Even the coach said 31 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: it's going to go rep to rep from time to time. 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that's definitely the plan. I think 33 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: some of the guys that we assume will start in 34 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 4: the offensive line probably will wind up starting, but they 35 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: have to earn it. I'm gonna take the needle and 36 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: put it back on the first song. And we've heard 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 4: this record before around here about OTAs with the regime change. 38 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think that OTAs are always vital for 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 4: every veteran on the team, But with the regime change 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 4: and with a new offense, and with Trevor Lawrence talking 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 4: on Monday about he's still learning this, well, guess what 42 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: if he's still learning it, everybody else surround him needs 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 4: to be learning it with him. So while we really 44 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 4: can't evaluate this or shouldn't evaluate it for you know, 45 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: we don't know, based on an Ota price, who's going 46 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 4: to start, but it is incredibly important for the players 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 4: to be learning and to be absorbing the culture what's 48 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: going on around here. 49 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: Good point, John, John Big thing number two is QB one, which. 50 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 4: We talked about Trevor. 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: We haven't seen him working with a lot of these 52 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: new players. I've seen him working out in the off season, 53 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: but now with the rookies here, everybody's here working with 54 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: QB one, and Trevor talked a little bit about what 55 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: he did with rehabbing through the off season. 56 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 5: Not a ton obviously, just getting back into throwing. You know, 57 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 5: I went for a solid three and a half plus 58 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 5: months without throwing, just with the shoulder deal, and so 59 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 5: starting to throw a little bit for OTA's and then 60 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 5: working into it. 61 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: I feel really good now. 62 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 5: I feel like my arm's back in shape, feel like 63 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 5: I'm getting sharper and sharper every day. 64 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: John Wey saw Trevor out there. He's working learning a 65 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: new system, but also a lot of new players he's 66 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: got to work with, both on the line and the 67 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: wide receiving group. 68 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 4: He's got to get used to. Yeah, and I think 69 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 4: particularly key, obviously is the wide receiver group, which I 70 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 4: know we'll talk about as a show goes on. They're 71 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 4: really fast, they're much quicker, they seem much more athletic 72 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 4: than maybe any group this team has had here going 73 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 4: back to the nineties. So there is a crucial element 74 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 4: of getting on the same page with those guys. But 75 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: I think the biggest storyline for Trevor Lawrence is the footwork, 76 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: and not necessarily that he needed to improve the basics. 77 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: Dramatically said there was some work he did there, but 78 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 4: Brian getting his footwork right for this offense, it's fascinating. 79 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: He talked about, he talked about several times this offseason 80 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: how the footwork dictates where he's going with the ball 81 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 4: and those things need to be muscle memory. If that's 82 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: the case, and it is, then every rep is crucial 83 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: as he tries to get this offense where it's second 84 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: nature by the regular season, you know. 85 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: And there was some conversation on the sidelines yesterday because 86 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: he threw a couple of passes that got tipped and intercepted. 87 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: And he overthrew one. 88 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: Listen, he alone is just coming back from all the 89 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: time he missed last year. Let alone all of the 90 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: new players, like you mentioned guy. But what we don't 91 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: know is how much he's going to progress from day 92 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 3: to day because we're not out there every day, right 93 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: So he may have struggled a little bit yesterday just 94 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: getting into the rhythm of things with people, but he 95 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: may have a much better day today. I think when 96 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 3: you look at the body of work, you can't look 97 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: at OTAs separate from training camp. It's going to be 98 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: how he works his way through this new system and 99 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: getting himself back into football shape all the way up 100 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: to the start of the regular season. I think that's 101 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 3: the best way to evaluate him. And you know, Johnny 102 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: kept saying yesterday that this offense keeps giving you answers. 103 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: He didn't elaborate. We didn't have enough time to really 104 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: dive into that. I'll be interested to find out more 105 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: what that means as we get into this thing with him. 106 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: Our final big thing today is going to be expectations. 107 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: As we talk about OTA's head coach Liam Cohen talked 108 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: about what he thinks is important this time of year. 109 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 6: Are we going to catch every ball and throw every 110 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 6: ball out here in the first day at Phase three? 111 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 6: I would assume not but more in terms of the operation, 112 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 6: the communication. Are we understanding what we're trying to get 113 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 6: accomplished out of the calls. It's a learning phase, not 114 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 6: necessarily a competitive phase. 115 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: And do you want to be cleaner? Absolutely? 116 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 6: Do you want it to look perfect, yes, we all do. 117 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 6: That's just not the reality at this phase this time, 118 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 6: in this phase, ran I. 119 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: Love some brutal honesty, which is fair the first day 120 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: out there, obviously not one hundred percent, not what you'd 121 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: expect to see at a practice in November. But it's 122 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 2: the little things that are important this time of year, right, communication, hustle, 123 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: getting your conditioning together. That's all little things when you 124 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: look at it. But in this grand scheme it's going 125 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: to play a big factor coming up in a couple 126 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: of months. 127 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 4: Well. 128 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: And obviously he understands what they're trying to do and 129 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: expects that the players will get better from meeting the 130 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: meeting in practice to practice, so that by the time 131 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: they get out of OTAs and into mini camp and 132 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: did the start of the training camp then to the 133 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: start of the regular season, they'll get closer to where 134 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: he wants to go. The thing I really enjoyed about 135 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: him yesterday was just the candidates that you mentioned, but 136 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 3: just the transparency. 137 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: He gets it. 138 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: He knows that people are going to talk about what 139 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 3: the quarterback did yesterday or what the defense did. Having 140 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: a couple of interceptions off the two starting well, the 141 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: starting and the backup quarterback both through a couple yesterday, 142 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: He's not gonna let that bother him. He's not gonna 143 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: let that become the storyline. 144 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 4: I'm going to move the needle back to the start 145 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: of the record again, right and look, it's the first 146 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: practice of OTA's unpadded work with a new system, a 147 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 4: new offensive system, a new defensive system, new players in 148 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: that system, new coordinators however you slice it, and a 149 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: quarterback who didn't throw for three and a half months 150 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 4: this offseason. No unit is ahead of the other unit 151 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 4: at this point because they're not competing like that. They 152 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: are trying to learn what's going on and trying to 153 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 4: be as ready as possible for training camp. You don't 154 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 4: want all the interceptions, but to think you weren't going 155 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: to have any on day one was a little. 156 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: Selly here on jag Zam. The schedule released last week. 157 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: We're going to go over all of the dates with 158 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: you coming up after the break. Jag Zam brought to 159 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: you by Fresh from Florida. It's always in season. 160 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: This this school, that, this school. Welcome back to jag Zam. 161 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna go over some of the schedule for you 162 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: and do a little this or that in relation to that. 163 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: So this came out last week on Wednesday, and now 164 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: we finally know where and when they're going to be playing. 165 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: We knew the opponents already, but that first five games 166 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: of the schedule is not going to be an easy set. 167 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: I think we've talked about this obviously. We did a 168 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: schedule release show. We talked a little bit about this, 169 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: but I figured for our jag Zam fans we'll recap 170 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: a little bit. But for me, if you can go 171 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: two and three here, I'm fine with that. This is 172 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: pretty tough out of the gate, including a primetime matchup 173 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: against the Chiefs here at home, which will should be 174 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: a great game if nothing else except to have Monday 175 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: night football back, which is always fun. John is the 176 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: first game against the Panthers. Is that a must win game? 177 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: I know you love call things must win. 178 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: No, it's not. 179 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: Because it's week one and if you say you must 180 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: win it. If you win the last sixteen, you look 181 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: pretty silly saying that was a must win game. But 182 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 4: for energy, for belief, yeah, I think it's important only 183 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 4: because if you believe that twenty four results will translate 184 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 4: into twenty five, then this is a really tough start. 185 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 4: That's usually not the way it works. But that's all 186 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 4: we have to sort of gauge it on right now. 187 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: If you lose to Carolina, now you're looking at a 188 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 4: Bengals team that thinks it's going to compete for the 189 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. The Texans are your big rival in the division. 190 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 4: You've got the Chiefs, who look, you can play really 191 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 4: well against Patrick Mahomes and not win. And then the 192 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 4: forty nine ers. You can't believe they're gonna be six 193 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 4: and eleven again, so must win. No, but you better 194 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 4: win a couple of these. And that looks like the 195 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 4: one that's the most gettable. 196 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: I'll take the other side of the coin. From an 197 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: emotional side. You remember what it fell around here last 198 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: year when they were one and. 199 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 3: Four, not great, and it felt like they were out 200 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 3: of it, you know, And there are still players in 201 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: the locker room who remember that. Despite the fact that 202 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: there's a lot of new faces, both on the coaching 203 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: staff and next to them in other lockers. One in 204 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 3: four would be a disastrous start to this season, not 205 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: because you couldn't overcome it, because recently they didn't, and 206 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: it would it would be like the negative muscle memory, like, 207 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: oh boy, here we go again. 208 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: What's really changed? 209 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 3: So from that perspective, yeah, beating Carolina here on opening 210 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: day seems like a really important game. 211 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 4: And part of that too. Look, we're used to this 212 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 4: team struggling because it lost the last or five of 213 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 4: the last six and twenty three and four and thirteen 214 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: last year, so we're sort of tend to look at 215 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: the schedule with that sort of feeling. Still, these guys 216 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 4: don't believe they're going to be that team. So if 217 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 4: you're not that team, then that schedule at the top 218 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 4: is just a difficult schedule. 219 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: But after Kansas City, if you're one in four, that's 220 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: not good. They're still going to believe that they're not 221 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: that team. That's right, right, I mean I don't I. 222 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: Think a little bit at this time we were all 223 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: a little Dilall listen here. 224 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 3: The other thing is you don't know, you don't know 225 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: who comes into the season banged up, right, What if 226 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 3: one of those receivers gets hurt in Cincinnati and training 227 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: campan isn't full speed. You know, what if the offensive 228 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 3: line that they've rebuilt in Houston isn't there. We're judging 229 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: them based on last season's results, and we're projecting that 230 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: the Niners won't be as bad as they were last year, 231 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: which seems fair to project, but we don't know where 232 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: they're going to be. So yes, it looks on face 233 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: value like a very challenging schedule, but there's a lot of. 234 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: Unknowns there are, and it's important for us to remember too, 235 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: as much as we remember how things didn't feel great 236 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 2: last season. I feel like almost half this roster is 237 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: different at this point, so they'll feel a little bit 238 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: differently going into this as well. So let's look at 239 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: that next chunk of games, week six through ten. I 240 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: believe obviously they're heading to London during that stretch, and 241 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: then there's a bye week. How important is it around 242 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: the bye to have a winning record be five hundred? 243 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: Are you looking at it that way, Brian? Are you 244 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: kind of just looking at it as a whole. 245 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 3: I'm looking at it as a whole because you can 246 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: grab some momentum over the final six games of the season. 247 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: But let's put it this way. 248 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: You want to be around five hundred at the worst, 249 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 3: because you've got these trips to the West Coast interspersed there, 250 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: You've got some challenge as you come off Kansas City. 251 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: You know, you've got a game against Seattle, who's been 252 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: a pretty good team consistently for the last decade. And 253 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: we know about the Rams in London, and then you 254 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: come home. You got to go to Vegas and that'll 255 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: be a different team under Pete Carroll. And then you're 256 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: at Houston. So two and three gives you a chance. 257 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: With these four games, maybe you could go three and 258 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: one and take advantage of that and find yourself at 259 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: five and five, five to four, right, I mean, that 260 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: would be ideal. When you look at the will stretch 261 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: of the season. 262 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: The question is do you have to be five hundred 263 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 4: to buy you know? I do you have to be 264 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 4: three and four, four and three? I think you need 265 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: to be three and four, you know, I think at 266 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 4: least because it's easy to say, well, you know, you 267 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 4: can be two and five and come back from look 268 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: what they did in twenty two. But remember how historic 269 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 4: and what heavy lift got to run the table for you, 270 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: and you had to have a team come way back 271 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 4: to you. You can't count on a late season dramatic run. 272 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: So I do think you have to tread water with 273 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: what if the schedule is indeed difficult. I think you 274 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 4: have to tread water and be five and five, six 275 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 4: and six ish and then have a chance to sort 276 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 4: of reel some teams back in with what looks like 277 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: a more manageable late season schedule. 278 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: And we're also assuming that this team is gonna we 279 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: are assuming that this team is going to struggle a 280 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: little bit early. 281 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: New coach, some new players. Maybe they don't. 282 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 4: Maybe they don't, that'd be great. 283 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: Let's look at our third section, or a third chunk, 284 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: which is games eleven through fourteen. I think, as we mentioned, 285 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: there's those West Coast trips interspersed there some tough road matchups. 286 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: When you looked at this schedule as a whole, Brian, 287 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: what was the toughest road games on there? 288 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: I think going to San Francisco. I mean, even though 289 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: they were six and eleven, we know the quality of 290 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: that team, and that's a place that the Jaguars have 291 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: never fared well against a team that they've never fared 292 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: well with. That one is the one that stands out, 293 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: is the biggest West Coast trip, you know. But when 294 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 3: you look, you see the one against the Cardinals. That's 295 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 3: a sneaky good team. Because the quarterback will be healthy 296 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: this year second half of the season. I think that 297 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: Cardinals game is going to be a pivotal one for them. 298 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like that you guys about road games, 299 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 4: but that Chargers game here at home. Chargers feel like 300 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: a team that's going to push Kansas City this year. 301 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 4: I agree with Brian, and San Francisco feels like the 302 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 4: toughest one coming up in this final stretch. Denver with 303 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 4: Sean Payton feeling like he's got that thing go, and 304 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 4: it just feels like they're going to be contending and 305 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: it's gonna be a game that matters to the Broncos late. 306 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: So I would go with that one as well. 307 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: I agree with you, John, when I look at that 308 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: schedule and I see Denver in December, knowing what they 309 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: did late in the season last year. You have an 310 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 2: experience head coach of a rookie quarterback kind of coming together. 311 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: We'll see what a sophomore campaign looks like but for 312 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: me cool, if it's a game, it'll be a big 313 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: game Meeta way, I think just in terms of the 314 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: Jaguars on the road that'll be for us. I think 315 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: it'll mean. 316 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: Something that's always a great environment too. 317 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, So let's here on Jagsam. Coming up 318 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: in a little bit, we're gonna go over OTA's. You'll 319 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: hear from head coach and your quarterback. 320 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: Move the freight. 321 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: Move the freight, Magellan Transport. But the coolest office space 322 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: in Jacksonville. You can check things out at Magellanlogistics dot com. 323 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: Back here on jags AM, OTAs are underway and we 324 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: got to hear from head coach. Got to hear from 325 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: the quarterbacks the first time in a while, so it 326 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: was nice to get their perspective of Obviously, Trevor Lawrence 327 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: mentioned he hasn't been throwing for a couple of months 328 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: due to that shoulder surgery. Now he's back out there, 329 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: fully active with his teammates, but also learning a new system, 330 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: which he talked a little bit about yesterday. 331 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 5: I really like it. You know, it has a lot 332 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 5: of answers. You know, it's it's it's great. I mean, 333 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 5: it puts a lot of the players you have to 334 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 5: know your stuff, but it gives you all the answers. 335 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 5: You know, you're not I don't feel like you're stuck 336 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 5: in a play that's uh not set up for success. 337 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 5: You know, gives us a lot of answers. And uh 338 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 5: we changed the presentation a lot and make a lot 339 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 5: of things look the same. You know, there's there's a 340 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 5: whole lot of without going into too much detail, you know, 341 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 5: there's a lot of things that I like about it. 342 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 5: And it's definitely unlike any system that I've learned before. 343 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 5: So it's been cool to learn and just pick the 344 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 5: coach's brain and try to get it down as fast 345 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 5: as possible. 346 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: John, that was your question to Trevor Lawrence, and he 347 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: said he likes that it has a lot of answers 348 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: for him, kind of talking about that new system for 349 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: him making things available to him. What did you take 350 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: from his answer? 351 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 4: No, Core on first day of OTA is going to 352 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: stand up and say this system stinks. But I do 353 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 4: think it's a storyline to follow in terms of what 354 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 4: this system gives the quarterback easily, meaning the footwork all 355 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 4: ties into making the decisions easy and making the quarterback 356 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: have to think. Let's quarterback always has to think, But 357 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: it's about taking as many making as many decisions, feel 358 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: like muscle memory, based on the footwork, based on the routine, 359 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 4: based on the pattern. So I think that's really what 360 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: he's talking about liking, and it's going to be interesting 361 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 4: to see how quarterback friendly because I think that's what 362 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: I think that's the word they're looking for with this. 363 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: It's supposed to make it easy to make decisions. 364 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 3: Back there, Well, I'm going to take the needle and 365 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: move it forward a song. Okay, okay, well only in 366 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 3: the sense that the running game I think is going 367 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: to be the key to making the quarterbacks life easy. 368 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: I know the footwork is going to become a story, 369 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: and we're focused on Trevor Is he comes back from 370 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: the shoulder injury, and I think we have plenty of 371 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: new viewers, Travis Hunter fans who come on who may 372 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 3: not know it was the non throwing shoulder for him, 373 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: So it's not like he wasn't throwing because it was 374 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 3: the throwing shoulder. It's the non throwing shoulder. But I 375 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 3: think that the running back position is as interesting as 376 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 3: any and we won't talk about it early in OTAs, 377 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: we'll talk about it more when they're actually in pads 378 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 3: in training camp. But as he kept talking about answers 379 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 3: and answers and answers, I think the ability to convert 380 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 3: on third down and shorts, which they haven't done, will 381 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: give him as many answers as anything because it will 382 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: keep the defense guessing. 383 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, if the running game can get him in better, 384 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 4: not only converting more second and fives as opposed to 385 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 4: second and eight, it'll be key for him. So how 386 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 4: the offensive line fares is going to be key for 387 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: him and for everybody this year. 388 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: You read between the lines a little bit too when 389 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: he says having plays where he feels like they're set 390 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: up for success, where maybe some other times we talk 391 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: about those third and longs, a lot of the first 392 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: couple plays maybe weren't setting them up for success in 393 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: past regimes. So we'll definitely see some changes alteration there. 394 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: So I think everybody's looking forward to kind of seeing 395 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 2: what they do there. Trevor Lawrence also finally got to 396 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: work with Travis Hunter. Right, We've been talking about that 397 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 2: for a while. Travis Hunter have mostly been focusing on 398 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 2: offense thus far, and Trevor talked a little bit about 399 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: what he's seen from himself. 400 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: Far, I got a lot of juice. He can run 401 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: all day, a lot of energy. 402 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 5: I love it. Good energy, always just dapping guys up, 403 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 5: just bringing juice every day. And like I said, high 404 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 5: motor can just go. It's like a kid just runs 405 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 5: around all day. He doesn't get tired. It seems like 406 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 5: so you can't have enough of that. And then as 407 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 5: far as just talent, I mean kind of speaks for 408 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 5: his self, ball skills, run after the catch, he's very explosive. 409 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 5: She didn't realize how exposive he was in and out 410 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 5: of cuts. You know, he's impressive to watch. And we've 411 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 5: gotten to connect a couple of times, just so lo'ly 412 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 5: gonna keep getting better and better. You know, we've only 413 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 5: worked together for a couple of days now, so we 414 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 5: got some time to really dial in on the details. 415 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 2: Brian, you have to imagine he's excited to have then 416 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: new weapon like that. 417 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just thought though he was asked the question, 418 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: if I was asked the question to answer it, I 419 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: would have said, absolutely, the guy is fast, he's explosive. 420 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 3: But did you see number seven out there today? Because 421 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 3: there were a couple of plays throws to Brian Thomas 422 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 3: Junior where he caught the ball and accelerated up the field. 423 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: I've never I've never seen a receiver since Jimmy Smith 424 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 3: do that in Jacksonville. The explosion is how much better 425 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 3: Brian Thomas is poised to be this year, and obviously 426 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: having Travis Hunter on the other side will help him 427 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 3: because they won't be able. 428 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: To key on him. 429 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: But for all of the things that Travis Hunter is 430 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 3: advertised to bring to Jacksonville, he is showing those on 431 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 3: the field. It's just that Brian Thomas Junior was the 432 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: most impressive guy on the field yesterday. 433 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, he BTJ feels like a great player who's about 434 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 4: to make that second year jump. He was very good 435 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 4: as a rookie, but he looks like a guy who 436 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 4: all of a sudden is out there going, oh, this 437 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 4: is what I can do. You know, and knew it 438 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: last year, but now I was seeing everything. I thought. 439 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 4: The most interesting quote from Trevor when he was talking 440 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 4: about Travis Hunter was how quick he is in and 441 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 4: out of breaks. That sometimes can be where fast receivers 442 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 4: don't translate to the NFL, because you have to be 443 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 4: able to get open. I don't know how good Travis 444 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 4: Hunter is going to be in terms of numbers this year. 445 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 4: I don't know what his stats are going to look like. 446 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 4: But if he can scare defenses on a play to 447 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: play basis, which I think he will, and score eight touchdowns, 448 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: and even if he's not a polished route runner, which 449 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 4: I don't expect him to be yet, if his playmaking 450 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 4: and his dynamic talent, quickness, all that stuff make plays 451 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 4: that coordinators when they're writing down had a game plan. 452 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 4: If they're writing down seven, twelve and five, who's Dianny Brown. Well, then, 453 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, for the first time in a 454 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 4: long time around here, you've got a bunch of guys 455 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 4: that scare defensive coordinators. Travis Hunter willquably scared them more 456 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 4: than anybody. 457 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 3: And we should probably point out that Brown showed it 458 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: is the first time we got to look at him, 459 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 3: showed his explosion is yesterday and his speed as well. 460 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 2: I was impressed with what he was doing yesterday. For me, 461 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: not that I had little expectations for him, but just 462 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: to kind of see them all out there, and especially 463 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior. We talk about He's quickly gotten to 464 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: that point where John, You've covered players like this before 465 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: that are dynamic. You see them do crazy things and 466 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: you just expected. At this point, it's not even oh, 467 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: that's amazing, it's like, well, yeah, he's amazing, Like of 468 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: course he's doing that. 469 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, And this team hasn't had that level of blue 470 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 4: chip enough. I would say Jalen athletically Jayalen Ramsey was 471 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 4: that guy. There's been others, Jimmy Smith back in the day, 472 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 4: Fred Taylor, in the history of the franchise, there has 473 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 4: been that, but maybe at the receiver position, which has 474 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 4: become the rock star position. This feels like the first 475 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 4: Jaguars rock star since Jimmy Smith. 476 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: I just I see him move, and he just moves differently, right. 477 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 3: I Mean I never watched Secretariat run, but you see 478 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: Secretariat running in some of these clips and you realize 479 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: he's completely different than everyone else. And all I think 480 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: of when I see Brian Thomas out there is the 481 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: guy is the Secretariat of wide receivers. 482 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he's as good as they can count. 483 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: Makes everything look really, really easy, which is enjoyable to 484 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: watch in terms of what things actually look like. As 485 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 2: a whole. As we mentioned, head coach wasn't overly impressed 486 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: with everything being on the button yesterday, but he did 487 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: say the defense looked good to him from what he saw. 488 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 6: I actually thought they they did some really good things today. 489 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 6: I thought, just from a communications standpoint, punching the ball out, 490 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 6: doing it in the right way though, right we had 491 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 6: a couple guys just trying to be intentional about getting 492 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 6: the ball out and getting their hands on the football, 493 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 6: something that we're you know, actively trying to be intentional 494 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 6: about this whole offseason, and I thought the defensive staff 495 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 6: has done a great job of communicating that in the 496 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 6: meeting settings. Bringing it out to the practice field, I 497 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 6: thought that they did a nice job kind of setting 498 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage, playing with length on the D line, 499 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 6: and you know, the ball was out. I mean, the 500 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 6: ball is on the ground too many times for us offensively, 501 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 6: but hey, on the flip side of it, that's the 502 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 6: first time as a head coach you actually kind of 503 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 6: have to be very neutral in those moments where I'm 504 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 6: kind of ticked off that the ball is on the 505 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 6: ground from an offensive standpoint. But ultimately, man defense did 506 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 6: a nice job of getting the ball out that today 507 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 6: for us, your. 508 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: Offensive head coach had to rein it in a little bit. 509 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: He's like, well, I coached the defense too, so we're 510 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: happy to see that. 511 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 4: John. 512 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: At this time of the year, defense is always, you know, 513 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 2: by nature position, it's a little more reactionary, so there 514 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 2: always feels like they're ahead of the offense. But we 515 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 2: don't talk a ton about the defensive side of the football. 516 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 2: But obviously new coordinators, there some new key players, and 517 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 2: then Eric Armstead switching back to his original position. There's 518 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of changes we see there as well. 519 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really hard to analyze defense well during the 520 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 4: offseason because the pass rush is different. You're not really 521 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 4: stopping the run. So much of defense in the NFL 522 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 4: is how you stopped throwing early downs in a real 523 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: life situation where you never get that you get to games. 524 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 4: So how good are they going to be? I don't know, 525 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 4: but I think they believe they have a chance to 526 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 4: be pretty good defensively because they believe strongly in their 527 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 4: two edge guys. They believe in Foyer Lucon and they 528 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: believe in Eric Armstead in the middle, and they believe 529 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 4: that out of that is going to be is going 530 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 4: to come a pretty good interior core for the first 531 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 4: time in a while. So it's good that they looked 532 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 4: good yesterday. Brian, I don't know what it means. 533 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: Well, the secondary had a good day yesterday, right, I mean, 534 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: they got Trevor twice, They got Nick Mullens, the backup 535 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 3: quarterback twice. From what you can tell, they were moving 536 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 3: and they were communicating. And Eric Murray, the safety, the 537 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: veteran safety they signed, the ten year guy from Houston, 538 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 3: was in the middle of it all. So that's an 539 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: important signing because you're dramatically changing the back end of 540 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: the defense. As much as we talk about the offensive 541 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: line as a work in progress, and you're going to 542 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 3: figure out who goes where as training camp goes on. 543 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: Same thing in the secondary. You know, with Jordan Lewis, 544 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: you can play inside or outside where just Trump's hundred 545 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: fet into all of this. But they had a really 546 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 3: good day yesterday on the first day of OATES and 547 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 3: that's not a bad sign. 548 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 4: I think Tyson Campbell and Travis Hunter are sort of 549 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: quietly huge stories. Meaning if Tyson is the cornerback that 550 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 4: you paid, which I don't know that he's been that yet. 551 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 4: But if he is, and the skill is there, the 552 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: raw material is there to do that, and if Travis 553 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 4: Hunter is impactful at corner, then all of a sudden, 554 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 4: what seems like a weakness might become a strength. And 555 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 4: as you said, Brian, that is really a story that 556 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 4: because we focus so much on offense, we probably haven't 557 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 4: talked about enough. But the secondary can't be what it 558 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 4: was last year. 559 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 2: It was a huge liability of the secondary was and 560 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: obviously everything goes hand in hand pass rush and whatnot 561 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: leading into that, but we cannot see the explosive plays 562 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 2: they allowed last season to drag into this season. So 563 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: the secondary will definitely be a focus going into training 564 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: camp and getting that all established stable us here on 565 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: Jags am coming up. We'll tell you what's coming up 566 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: the rest of the week and what we've got going on. 567 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,239 Speaker 5: There's an energy on the Pridue field. I think that 568 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 5: starts with obviously Liam. He's a very energetic guy. He's passionate, 569 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 5: loves football, loves to be out here. I think that's 570 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 5: one thing I've noticed about him from the beginning is 571 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 5: a lot of energy and that trickles down to the staff, 572 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 5: right So I mean it's that. And then also the 573 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 5: players that we have a big variety of the guys 574 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 5: that they brought in and free agency, they all fit 575 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 5: what we're trying to do. And the I guess, the 576 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 5: culture and the energy and then even a guy like 577 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 5: Travis bringing in who's just full of energy and positive 578 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 5: and you know, a playmaker, all those things. It's cool 579 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 5: seeing it all come together, and it seems like everything's 580 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 5: well thought out about the type of people that are. 581 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: Here, not just the talent. 582 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: Things slowly coming together for the Jaguars. Obviously tons of 583 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: changes in the off season. We hear that culture word 584 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: a lot, John, but energy. You want to see the 585 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: buy in. I think more than anything, you'll figure out 586 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: what the team actually is as things go along. But 587 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: seeing this buy in this early, as we mentioned earlier, 588 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: huge turnout, probably only a couple of people missing. That's 589 00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: good to see at this point. 590 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and not surprising. Players get it. They know that 591 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 4: this is a year to be here. Even the veteran guys, 592 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 4: they understand new regime. You want to be around it. 593 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 4: You want to know what to expect coming in. I 594 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 4: think Travis Hunter's presence for a team that you know 595 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 4: anytime you change regimes, you're automatically going to be changing 596 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 4: cultures because what happened last time didn't work, and what 597 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: else are you going to talk about? But Brian, I 598 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 4: do think Travis Hunter's confidence. There are certain guys who 599 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 4: never really believe that they're not the best player out 600 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 4: there and that their team shouldn't win, and that can 601 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 4: help when you're trying to turn around to mindset. I 602 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 4: think he does bring an element of that. Well. 603 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: Obviously, he has all the skills, right, I mean, he 604 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 3: can run forever, as you've heard, and he's so athletic, 605 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 3: and he's got great ball skills. But it's that energy level, 606 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 3: it's that personality. It's that confidence that he brings that 607 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 3: sets him apart. There are lots of great athletes. It's 608 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: the ability to step onto the field to know you 609 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: belong and know you belong at the top of the 610 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 3: guys who are out there. 611 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: And I think that'll I think that'll bleed over. 612 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 3: I spent a little time with him, as I told 613 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 3: you guys in Green Bay, and have watched him out here. 614 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: He's consistent. 615 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 3: He's the same guy every time, whether you se him 616 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 3: in the hallway or on the practice field. That's important too, 617 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 3: because you guys know, there were some guys in the 618 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 3: locker room in recent years who weren't really consistent. You 619 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 3: want that consistency. They show up Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. They 620 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 3: the same guy, whether they won or they lost the 621 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: last week, that same sense of purpose, and it. 622 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 4: Can give veterans a lift. A guy like this comes in. 623 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 4: You see him running constantly, and you're in your fifth 624 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 4: year and you're not playing two positions. You're like, gosh, 625 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 4: I can't be tired. I mean, this kid's still running, 626 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 4: and that enthusiasm can give veterans sort of a second win, 627 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 4: the second life. 628 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 3: Well, he expects to win, right, We've talked about that. 629 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a guy who has only known success. 630 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: You see the trophies that he had last year, he 631 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: won all of them. That expectation of excellence is something 632 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 3: we haven't had enough of around here. And first round 633 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: pick one of the most popular players in the league, 634 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 3: already social media phenomenon. It's nice that you have that 635 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: caliber of a player, with that caliber of expectation. 636 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 4: Trophy sometimes, Yeah, everybody gave out the participation one team. 637 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 4: There we go, I got that one. 638 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: We'd love to see it all right. OTAs continue next week, 639 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: we'll be back out there with them, and then we'll 640 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: be back here with you on jags aam next week 641 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: as well