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Speaker 2: That's right, if we're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. Mansy Bolanos texted me Steve and said, I

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Speaker 2: saw an opportunity to take Saturday off, so see you

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Speaker 3: No excuse, just vacation, that's all.

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Speaker 4: Well, I found an opportunity to work a Saturday night,

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Speaker 4: which you know me, Martin, you know me a long time.

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Speaker 4: Every time I get an opportunity to hang out on

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Speaker 4: the air here at Fox Sports Radio, especially with mister

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Speaker 4: Martin wise, I'm going to grab that opportunity in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 4: So it's good to be where.

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Speaker 3: Our producer Andy and I were talking yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I said, it's going to be great to see Steven

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Speaker 2: the Saturday shirt instead of the Sunday shirt.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and that's this is my Saturday shirt, my traditional

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Speaker 4: Saturday shirt. Sunday is, of course my UCLA shirt, which

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Speaker 4: I will be Donnie tomorrow. Of course, hanging out with VJA.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow's tradition unlike any other.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm getting ready for TV,

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Speaker 4: so I'm you know, I'm sort of cleaned up right now,

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Speaker 2: So steve a lot on the table today, Yes, does

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Speaker 3: Table for a sports art radio show.

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Speaker 2: Change the channel? But uh, where you want to start?

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Speaker 2: Because I think I was hearing Bucking Fits. Actually I

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Speaker 2: decided let's start here because Duke in North Carolina are

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Speaker 2: I was hearing Bucking Fits the show before us start

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Speaker 3: Had lost a bit of luster.

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Speaker 2: And I kind of agree in that it all looks

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Speaker 2: the game is on. You look at Cameron Indoor Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's still wearing Duke blue. Everybody's still waving their speared

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Speaker 2: you know, because the students are that close to the

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Speaker 2: may have lost a little bit of luster. Kayleb Wilson

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Speaker 2: in practice, but it's still Duke North Carolina. But they

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Speaker 2: were saying it didn't quite feel like it, and for me,

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Speaker 2: it also doesn't quite feel like it, in part because

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Speaker 2: I think this is one of the unintended consequences of

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Speaker 2: And I think in football it's just a little bit

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Speaker 2: harder because even though you have so many transfers, right,

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Speaker 3: Right, in basketball, one.

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Speaker 2: Guy can just ask the San Antonio Spurs about how

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Speaker 2: their fortunes have changed since Victor went Benjama fell into

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Speaker 2: and in the transfer portal era, even more so than

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the biggest thing why college basketball

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Speaker 4: Well, apparently the White House is discussing now how they

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Speaker 4: we'll see what happens here. Because you're absolutely right, Martin,

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Speaker 4: I mean, the transfer portal, you forget the nil Okay,

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Speaker 4: So but he played four years at North Carolina. So nowadays,

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna stay at the same university if you

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Speaker 4: when you talk about identifying with the label of Duke

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Speaker 4: Those days are gone, and so yeah, yeah, it definitely

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Speaker 4: and the coaches will always voice their frustration. You know,

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Speaker 4: we can win thirty games, we can win a conference championship,

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Speaker 4: we can win a conference tournament championship. Nobody cares. The

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Speaker 4: you've created monster. There's nothing like march Mandess. It is

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Speaker 4: They literally have no idea about a single player, single coach,

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Speaker 4: single team. They don't care. Just let me fill out

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Speaker 4: Villanova won the national championship in twenty sixteen, and she

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 4: Are you feeling good? He bought your Michigan Wolverines.

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Speaker 3: Man, I think that this. Remember the Yukon year.

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Speaker 4: You know, I got to pick right now. I don't

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Speaker 2: You remember the Yukon year where they won every game

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Speaker 2: And we was all kind of ignoring that Eliath was

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Speaker 2: When they don't play well, they win by single digits.

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Speaker 4: So I would imagine for a Wolverine like yourself that

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Speaker 2: I mean to be clear, I am okay with Michigan

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Speaker 3: In my twenty near years now of being a.

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Speaker 2: Right we consider postseason play when the late John Bline years,

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Speaker 2: Rod Yes and all of that. Right, the five years

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Speaker 4: Was spinning in his grave through those five years.

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Speaker 2: It was the worst five years straight. You can't find

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Speaker 3: And I found the worst five of yours to be there.

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Speaker 2: So I am honestly just as big of a Michigan

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Speaker 4: Is being like, got the two championship games and unfortunately

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Speaker 2: How do you call it a fourth foul on a

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Speaker 2: National Player of the Year in the first half? Absurdity anyway,

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Speaker 3: Kevin Ware never breaks his leg.

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Speaker 4: I'm just going back trying to make it feel good

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Speaker 4: right now by giving you, you know, that possible vision.

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Speaker 4: So Michigan not just beating Duke, but blowing Duke out

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Speaker 3: So that's to the point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want Michigan basketball at this point to

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Speaker 2: is cheating.

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Speaker 3: And then sure enough they were.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, somehow, the National Championship doesn't get retroactive,

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Speaker 2: a lot, Ricky. But then after that that Villanova team

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Speaker 2: with Davidcenzo and Bruntson and Bridges, you just say, you

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Speaker 2: know the junior Knicks, right, they end up graduating to

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Speaker 2: go ball be the Knicks until they made those traits. Uh,

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Speaker 2: that team beat the living hell out of Michigan in

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Speaker 2: the National Championship game.

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Speaker 3: So I am just ready at this point.

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Speaker 2: Michigan a team, a program which has pumped out quite

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Speaker 4: Who's running the show? The NCA has completely dropped the ball.

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Speaker 4: Indiana is the national champion in college football. Did you

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Speaker 4: Watching the Baseball Classic. I've been watching it. This is it.

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Speaker 2: So, Steve, we'll talk about more World Baseball Classic in

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Speaker 2: just a minute, but I do want to get your

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Speaker 2: ten minutes of NBA. But because you labeled yourself, now

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Speaker 2: So when you see the World Baseball Classic, can you

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Speaker 2: a home run and started raising the roof as you

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Speaker 2: cross second base, got the third, had a little dance routine.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, could actually hit a home run?

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Speaker 3: World Baseball Classic by Macro?

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Speaker 4: How about that? What was a seventeen year old kids

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Speaker 4: throwing pitches there in judge the other day? They didn't

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Speaker 4: Brazil and heavy pitchers anyway, what's amazing? You know how

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Speaker 4: spring training used to be for pitchers. They would sort of,

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Speaker 4: you know, try things out. They really weren't pitching hard.

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Speaker 4: They're just trying to round themselves into shape. Sometimes they

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Speaker 4: experiment with some new pitches they wanted to try, and

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Speaker 4: spring training.

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Speaker 3: That goes out the window.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're watching, you know, arguably one of the

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Speaker 4: two best pitchers in baseball, Scubo out there, you know,

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Speaker 4: along with Paul Skiing's top pitchers in baseball. He's one

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Speaker 4: hundred mile hour heat. Oh yeah, in spring training. It's March,

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Speaker 4: early March. I don't think you're supposed to be throwing

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Speaker 4: that hard early. Well, that's why around it, you know,

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Speaker 4: it is you you throw a couple innings and then

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Speaker 4: you you know, maybe go to four five and you

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Speaker 4: know how it used to be, is you could round

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Speaker 4: yourself right.

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Speaker 2: But when you why they protect the pictures. That's why.

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Speaker 2: That's why I end up with a seventeen year old

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Speaker 2: getting Aaron Judge so ground into a double play, Let's

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Speaker 2: kick it over to Steve de Seger and then we'll

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Speaker 2: get Mark Mendina after Steve.

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Speaker 3: Steve.

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Speaker 7: Hello, there, we've got USA Baseball in the bottom of

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Speaker 7: the second it's second World Baseball Classic game of the

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Speaker 7: tournament playing Great Britain in Houston. Trek Scooble in his

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Speaker 7: one start for this tournament for the USA, and he

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Speaker 7: allowed a home run on the first pitch of the night,

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Speaker 7: and that's why the Americans are down to Great Britain

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Speaker 7: one nothing. You mentioned Luis Arias with a home run

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Speaker 7: for Venezuela. That's on FS one right now. Venezuela five

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Speaker 7: to one over Israel in the bottom of the fifth,

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Speaker 7: Israel with just two hits and two airs. The reason

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Speaker 7: that's on FS one is because there's now a rain

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Speaker 7: delay in Puerto Rico. Panama is upsetting Puerto Rico. It's

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Speaker 7: two to one in the bottom of the seventh, but

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Speaker 7: again in a rain delay and coming up at ten

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Speaker 7: Eastern times, South Korea against Chinese Taipei. It'll be tomorrow overseas.

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Speaker 7: Already earlier, Japan won a battle against rival South Korea

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Speaker 7: very early this morning our time, eight to six sey

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Speaker 7: A Suzukia the Cubs with two home runs Shohei o

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Speaker 7: Tania the Dodgers two hits, two walks, including a solo

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Speaker 7: home run, three runs scored updating the Americans still down

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Speaker 7: one nothing to Great Britain. In the pottom of the

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Speaker 7: second inning. Will Smith is the catcher for the Americans tonight.

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Speaker 7: He just hit one deep to write and ex Dodger

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Speaker 7: trace Thompson leaps and robs a home run over the

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Speaker 7: wall in right field, My Goodness. In the NBA, Atlanta

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Speaker 7: has beaten Philadelphia one twenty five, one sixteen. Orlando got

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Speaker 7: thirty points from Desmond Baine and one at Minnesota one

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Speaker 7: nineteen to ninety two in progress under a minute to goo.

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Speaker 7: The Brooklyn Nets have taken the lead at Detroit one

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Speaker 7: oh seven one oh three. Brooklyn is fifteen and forty

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Speaker 7: seven this seas and the Pistons are without Kay Cunningham

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Speaker 7: tonight out with a bruised quad. At men's college basketball,

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Speaker 7: dominance at number one Duke Duke leading its rival North

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Speaker 7: Carolina seventy three fifty six with under three minutes left.

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Speaker 7: Coming up Auburn at Alabama, later Texas Tech at BYU,

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Speaker 7: and number two Arizona has the late game eleven pm

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Speaker 7: Eastern at Colorado. It's the final weekend of the regular season.

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Speaker 7: In college hoops, Mark had upset number four Yukon sixty

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Speaker 7: eight sixty two. Wisconsin won at Purdue Vanderbilt one at Tennessee.

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Speaker 7: George Mason upset number twenty five Saint Louis. In women's

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Speaker 7: hoops Conference, Semi's going on number two. Ucla defeated eleventh

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Speaker 7: ranked Ohio State today seventy two to sixty two, and

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Speaker 7: in a top ten matchup in the other semi in

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Speaker 7: the Big Ten, Iowa over Michigan fifty nine. Forty two.

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Speaker 7: South Carolina, ranked third in the country, beat number six

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Speaker 7: LSU eighty three to seventy seven. Among the eleven NHL

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Speaker 7: games today at Boston, it was a win for the

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Speaker 7: Bruins three to one against the Cabs. Flyers have just

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Speaker 7: wanted a shootout at Pittsburgh four to three. The forty

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Speaker 7: nine Ers gave kicker Eddie Pinero a four year contract

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Speaker 7: where ten million dollars guaranteed. Dallas placed a restricted tender

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Speaker 7: on kicker Brandon Aubrey. Green Bay acquired linebacker Zeire Franklin

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Speaker 7: from the Colts, and the Chargers tonight are re signing

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Speaker 7: linebacker Khalil Mack.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, Thank you, Steve the Seger Now back.

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Speaker 3: Martin White's with Steve Hartman. Let's welcome in.

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Speaker 2: Mark Medina, NBA insider for Fox Sports Radio, and he

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Speaker 2: also writes for Essentially Sports. You can catch him on

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Speaker 2: Twitter at Mark g Underscore Medina Mark, how you doing,

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Speaker 2: my friend.

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Speaker 8: Martin Steve honored to be able to talk hoops with it.

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Speaker 8: Here should be a fun debate.

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Speaker 2: So I gotta ask you because Rich Paul said it first,

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Speaker 2: Carmelo Anthony said it second, and I have a blind

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Speaker 2: spot because I really do love watching this guy play.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards isn't the best player in the NBA, but

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Speaker 2: those two guys have both set it and I'm having

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Speaker 2: trouble arguing against it outside of the fact that, like

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Speaker 2: I'll put it like this, if I'm just watching the game,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, it's hard for me to find the guy's

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Speaker 2: a lot better. And you show pr and all of

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Speaker 2: this and some of the raw numbers and stats. But

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Speaker 2: in terms of like two way guys in the game,

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Speaker 2: Anthony Evers to me, he's right there at the top

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Speaker 2: of the list.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of these kind of of.

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Speaker 2: The Rich Paul is the guy who like did it,

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Speaker 2: but I would quantify him more from the hooper side

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Speaker 2: of things than the analytics side of things. If there

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Speaker 2: were sides of this debate, where do you land on

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Speaker 2: this With Anthony Everwards?

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Speaker 8: I land on what his coach has said. Chris Finch,

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Speaker 8: who I don't think shares the same opinion as Carmelo

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Speaker 8: Anthony and some of the other people you mentioned. He

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Speaker 8: says he has the potential to be the best two

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Speaker 8: way player in the league, and so what that means.

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Speaker 8: He's a great talent, great score, but I think there's

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Speaker 8: some points of contention here. His defense has improved, but

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Speaker 8: not consistent as far as how he scores the ball.

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Speaker 8: Great talent, but there's been some push pull on making

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Speaker 8: the right basketball play, being a better passer, knowing how

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Speaker 8: to incorporate his mid range game with the rest of

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Speaker 8: his skills, with his finishing at a three point shooting.

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Speaker 8: He's shown all those glimpses of it. But to be

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Speaker 8: the best player, you got to do that every single game,

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Speaker 8: and he hasn't reached that level yet.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about the Celtics here, Mark, because obviously,

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Speaker 4: with Jason Tatum back not expected. I mean a lot

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Speaker 4: of people thought he would have to sit out the

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Speaker 4: entire year. He was determined to get back in and

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Speaker 4: he got off to a decent start. But you know,

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Speaker 4: a lot of people been talking about, you know, Jalen

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Speaker 4: Brown and is he really the leader of this team?

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Speaker 4: I sort of laugh at the Cabars. I mean, Look,

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Speaker 4: they've been teammates forever, so it's not one guy over another.

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Speaker 4: But just how dynamic is this for the Celtics to

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Speaker 4: get Tatum back? Can they regain supremacy control of the

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Speaker 4: East over the Pistons, who obviously have been a great story.

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Speaker 4: And it's unbelievable to me a team that won fourteen

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Speaker 4: games two years ago essentially the same roster and they

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Speaker 4: are having the incredible season that they're having. Bickerstaff doing

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Speaker 4: a great job. But do you now look as the

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Speaker 4: Celtics taking control of the East with the return to

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Speaker 4: Jason Tatum.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Steve to the latter point, Yes, I do think

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Speaker 8: that the Celtics they're now the NBA final favorite out

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Speaker 8: of the East. I did not think this even as

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Speaker 8: of two weeks ago for a few reasons. One, I

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Speaker 8: think you could make a case for the Knicks Pistons

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Speaker 8: flip a coin, but also that there would be question

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Speaker 8: marks on how long the integration process would be with

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Speaker 8: Jason Tatum and the fact that the Selics have been

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Speaker 8: running on house money. I mean, Jalen Brown deserves to

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Speaker 8: be in the MVP conversation, but the rest of the

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Speaker 8: team are role players. But why I'm feeling differently now.

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Speaker 8: The Celtics have shown that they're very consistent. Jason Tatum

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Speaker 8: only needs to play a limited role before the playoffs start,

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Speaker 8: and the expectation is that once the playoffs start he'll

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Speaker 8: be ready for that ramp up because of this month's

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Speaker 8: worth the games. And the last part is I have

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Speaker 8: questions about the in the next With the Pistons, they

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Speaker 8: are three point shootings, inconsistent. Kate Cunningham is a great player,

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Speaker 8: but he's also laid some legs against top teams like

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Speaker 8: the Knicks, Like the Cavaliers and the Knicks themselves. They're

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Speaker 8: a great team, but they're inconsistent. Their offense isn't as

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Speaker 8: dynamic as I thought it would be under Mike Brown.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, all those three teams have more question marks,

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Speaker 8: But surprisingly, I think the Felics have even fewer question marks,

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Speaker 8: even with we're turning a pretty good player coming off

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Speaker 8: an achilles Injrew ten months ago.

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Speaker 2: Speaking on that Pistons team, the Brooklyn Nets just showed

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Speaker 2: a graphic biggest franchise comebacks. They trailed by I think

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Speaker 2: it was twenty five tonight right now, lead by two

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Speaker 2: with twenty five seconds left in the game.

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Speaker 3: The Pistons have.

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Speaker 2: Not looked good over the last five games or so,

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Speaker 2: with three real clunkers out of Kay Cunningham. He's not

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Speaker 2: playing tonight, and I think you see that them struggling

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Speaker 2: with one of the worst teams, with a team that's

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Speaker 2: not trying to win basketball games, is having a franchise

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Speaker 2: record potential comeback. I think that says something about your team.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's very surprising because Kate cutting him coming

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Speaker 8: off of last season. The knock on him was, hey,

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Speaker 8: he's not an effish and shooter. He worked on this offseason,

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Speaker 8: so he's improved. The other thing is that the turnovers,

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Speaker 8: that is something he improves here, but the last month

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Speaker 8: it's calm back up. So as much work as Kate

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Speaker 8: Cunningham has done and being a more efficient player, I

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Speaker 8: think he still has more work to do. The other thing,

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Speaker 8: to your point that they've had a rough stretch. He

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Speaker 8: usually has really good track record with bounce back performances

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Speaker 8: and lately not so much. So what does this mean

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Speaker 8: the playoffs? I think that you know they will go

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Speaker 8: further than the first round. They could seriously contend. But

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Speaker 8: if they're going up against the Celtics, they're going up

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Speaker 8: against the Knicks. I don't think they're going to be

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Speaker 8: overwhelmed with the moment that clearly they need more experience

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Speaker 8: to be more consistent through a seventy game series.

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Speaker 4: Blowing twenty five point leads the Clippers did. I was

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Speaker 4: watching that game yesterday. That was actually it was funny.

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Speaker 4: I was I was doing TV last night, Mark, and

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Speaker 4: you know, if the Clippers had won the game, they

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Speaker 4: would have been at five hundred for the first time

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Speaker 4: since November third. Of course, they got off to that

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Speaker 4: atrocious start this year and they were up twenty and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, why do I feel like they're not going

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Speaker 4: to win this game? And you know, on the road

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Speaker 4: against San Antonio and the Spurs came all the way

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Speaker 4: back to win. But this is interesting with the you know,

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Speaker 4: they get rid of Hardham, they get rid of Zubots,

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Speaker 4: and it looked like a you know, like a mailing

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Speaker 4: year for the Clippers. And I mean, we got to

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Speaker 4: give credit where credits due. Kawhi Leonard has had a

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Speaker 4: phenomenal year for the Clippers this year. We haven't seen

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Speaker 4: this kind of Kawhi Leonard since I don't know his

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Speaker 4: Toronto season.

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Speaker 3: I've been a long time since we've seen this guy?

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Speaker 4: What is I think he has like something like twenty

658
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Speaker 4: plus games of twenty plus points in a row, so

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Speaker 4: he's had an amazing year. But where are we with

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Speaker 4: this Clippers organization right now? You got a obviously a

661
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Speaker 4: rich owner, I know you know the league's doing this investigation.

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Speaker 4: Link is going to affect the owner at all when

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Speaker 4: you're worth well the ninth richest man on the planet.

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Speaker 4: But where are you with the Clippers right now? The

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Speaker 4: moves they make getting Garland, is that going to help

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Speaker 4: them moving forward? Right now? Could the Clippers ever actually

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Speaker 4: put themselves in a position to be a legitimate championship contender?

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Speaker 8: I don't think so, only because I think they're playing

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Speaker 8: so far from behind. That six and twenty one start

670
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Speaker 8: it was enough for them to overcome to get into

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Speaker 8: the play in tournament. But see that's the best case

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Speaker 8: scenario that they have there. They're too good to be

673
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Speaker 8: to lose any ground in the play tournament. They're going

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Speaker 8: to be automatically in. But there's so much fluidity. Does

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Speaker 8: that mean seven eighth or ninth or tenth place? But

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Speaker 8: with that, all that is doing is saying themselves up

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Speaker 8: to you either face the Oklahoma City in the first

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Speaker 8: round or the Santano Spurs. And as we saw last night,

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Speaker 8: the Clippers can hang with the I mean, they have

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Speaker 8: been one of the best teams in basketball in the

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Speaker 8: latter half of the season. I think the problem is

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Speaker 8: the Spurs are really good. They got Victor Wambanyama. They

683
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Speaker 8: have really good young talent with Dylan Harper and Stefan Castle,

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Speaker 8: and a good veteran presence with Jiaron Fox and Harrison

685
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Speaker 8: Barnes and the Thunder. You know, barring injuries, they've been

686
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Speaker 8: pretty good with absorbing some of those. Overlapping how much

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Speaker 8: shake Giojes Alexander, I think we'll get another MVP vote.

688
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Speaker 8: So even though the Clippers are playing their best basketball,

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Speaker 8: to your point, Kawhi Leonard's been playing his best since

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Speaker 8: twenty nineteen when he won a championship in Toronto, and

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Speaker 8: ty Lou is a great coach, and he said it

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Speaker 8: very adam only a few weeks ago that he feels

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Speaker 8: good about his chances if he just gets to the

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Speaker 8: playoffs because of his own track record as well as

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Speaker 8: the teams. I just think the Thunder and the Spurs

696
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 8: are just way too much better than the rest of

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Speaker 8: the field. That it's going to be a good effort,

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Speaker 8: but it's almost going to be feudal.

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Speaker 2: Well, Mark Medinaz ever feudal with you, buddy. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: coming on on the show as the as the Pistons

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Speaker 2: make a terrible list, the largest comeback with the franchise

702
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Speaker 2: history for this.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's three straight losses for the Piston.

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Speaker 2: Mark Madeina has never lost three times in a row.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on, Mark. We'll talk to you soon, Martin.

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Speaker 8: Steve appreciation, Steve, many congrats for your broadcast award a

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Speaker 8: few weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Hall of Fame thing. It was great to

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Speaker 4: be hanging out with Jim Hill that day. And I

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Speaker 4: can tell you this as a man that was with

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Speaker 4: Jim for twelve years on Sports Central. That was my

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Speaker 4: ticket to the Hall of Fame. It's no question. So

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Speaker 4: your day's coming, Mark, I promise you.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if I could follow on your footsteps,

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Speaker 8: you know what we should at least try exactly exactly.

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Speaker 4: Mine was a miracle run, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, we'll play Sports Court. Steve's a Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer. His voice carries weight, so when he says

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Speaker 2: guilty or not guilty, it means just that much more.

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Speaker 2: You understand Sports court. He will read his story and

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Speaker 2: you have to determine who's at fault.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready, all right.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that coming up next, Martin wife Steve

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Martin wife Steve Hartman comes to you live from the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios montste Belanos with the day off.

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Speaker 2: I tell you this, the Detroit Piston's definitely guilty of

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Speaker 2: wilting down the stretch as they've had three colunkers in

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Speaker 2: a row. Who else is guilty and I'm guilty? We'll

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Speaker 2: find out right now, Let's play Sports.

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Speaker 3: Courd since he's wrong Sports Sports Court.

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Speaker 9: All right, it's been a while since you played this one, Steve.

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Speaker 4: Yeah see, and I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Just for a refresher here and for the listeners as well.

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Speaker 10: I've got a list of people from around the world

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Speaker 10: of sports that I'm gonna present to you, guys the jury,

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Speaker 10: and you're gonna tell me whether they are guilty or.

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Speaker 7: Not guilty of what the ramow is.

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 10: First up, Brian Kelly Stance cubes So, former LSU football

744
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 10: coach Brian Kelly interviewed on Serious XM College Football Radio

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Speaker 10: this week, and during that appearance, he shared that ls

746
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Speaker 10: YOU is now spending north of forty million dollars on

747
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Speaker 10: their roster break make twenty six and Wayne Kepvin now

748
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Speaker 10: at the Helm compared.

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Speaker 9: To the eighteen million last season with him in charge.

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Speaker 10: Whether it's true or not, it comes off as a

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Speaker 10: little salty coming from Kelly himself.

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Speaker 9: So what do you guys think? Brian Kelly, guilty or

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Speaker 9: not guilty?

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Speaker 2: At the start parking, I'm gonna go guilty. The Uh,

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00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: he's definitely guilty. Quit worrying about what your ex is doing.

756
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: But he did he did this?

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00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: What is this Marvin's room call to Oh yeah that

758
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Speaker 2: you know that it's been in double what they used

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Speaker 2: to spend.

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Speaker 3: My ex is looking better and going out more.

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00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no, you lost at LSU.

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Speaker 3: No guilty, not guilty. I did not do it.

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Speaker 4: First of all, it is about the money you're spending,

764
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Speaker 4: is it not?

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Speaker 3: I mean what you gotta tell him? Don't sell me.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm gonna say it's not guilty, and I'll

767
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Speaker 4: tell you why, because, first of all, I don't think

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Speaker 4: Brian Kelly's gonna exaggerate on these numbers. The reason they're

769
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Speaker 4: spending so much money as they realized they weren't spending

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Speaker 4: enough money to keep up with the other teams that

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Speaker 4: were spending more money. So He's like, I would.

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Speaker 3: Still be there.

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Speaker 4: I'd still be there if you had spent forty million

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Speaker 4: on the roster that I had instead of the cut

775
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Speaker 4: rate that I had to put together a roster, especially

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Speaker 4: in a conference like the SEC, I would still be

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Speaker 4: the coach. Right, You're making me the scapegoat, when the

778
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 4: bottom line, it was the organization. It was the administration

779
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Speaker 4: that went cheap on Brian Kelly and forced him into

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Speaker 4: a position to get fired. So I say, not guilty,

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Speaker 4: Brian Kelly.

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 9: Next up, Logan Paul stands accused.

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Speaker 10: So Internet personality and WWE wrestler Logan Paul has been

785
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Speaker 10: jarring back and forth with Tom Brady recently to hype

786
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 10: up their upcoming flag football game, and on his podcast

787
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 10: this week, though Paul took a took it a step further,

788
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Speaker 10: saying he wouldn't be surprised if he ends up throwing

789
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Speaker 10: hands with Brady on the field of that game. That's

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Speaker 10: not all though he then said he could beat up

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Speaker 10: any NFL player, even Miles Garrett. He offered up a

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Speaker 10: million dollars to any player, current or former who can

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Speaker 10: beat him up in a fight. So far, one notable

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Speaker 10: guy who's taking him up on it is Leveon Bell,

795
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Speaker 10: former Steelers running back. So Logan Paul guilty or not guilty? Steve,

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Speaker 10: what do you think.

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Speaker 4: Logan Paul is guilty of being the greatest self promoter

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Speaker 4: of all time. The fact that anybody is biting anything

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Speaker 4: that Logan Paul is involved with right now, or any

800
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Speaker 4: of the Paul brothers is absolutely mind blowing to me.

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00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 4: You know, he's a wrestler, right His brother obviously got

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00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 4: knocked cold, so he seems to be out of the mix.

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Speaker 4: But as far as Logan Paul is concerned, he would

804
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Speaker 4: get destroyed by these NFL players, but he knows the payday.

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00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: He'll take the beating as long as he puts the

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Speaker 4: money in the pocket.

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Speaker 3: I'm going guilty. Put his ass in jail.

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00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: Logan Paul is guilty, and Ian Roddy is also guilty.

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Speaker 2: Because the non notable NFL player that has also accepted

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Speaker 2: the fight with Logan Paul, Braden Fojoko, somebody I know personally,

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Speaker 2: and I know for a fact he sent the contract

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00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: back to Logan Paul and is waiting for return signature.

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Speaker 2: So Logan Paul, quit running from your tweets because Bradon

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00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: Pajokko will fly anywhere near conn in the United States

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Speaker 2: and put on.

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Speaker 3: And lace him up. I know it for a fact.

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00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: Quit running. He wants that million whoop You ads too?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, former Chargers d Lineman.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Pittsburgh's dealers practice squad baby.

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Speaker 4: I will say this, Logan Paul is a better wrestler

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Speaker 4: and Jake Paul's a fighter that I will say that's right.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I don't I don't watch enough wrestling to weigh in

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Speaker 10: on that. But next time Russell Westbrook stands accused. King's

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Speaker 10: guard Russell Westbrook lashed out at the media during his

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Speaker 10: postgame presser after losing to the Pelicans a few days ago,

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Speaker 10: called him out for reporting things about him and the

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Speaker 10: team that simply aren't true, going on a long tirade

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Speaker 10: about it, ending with quote, my ask is that you

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Speaker 10: respect what we do and we'll respect what you do.

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Speaker 10: So Russell Westbrook, guilty or not guilty?

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Speaker 7: Martin.

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Speaker 2: He's guilty for Kevin because you have a platform, use

834
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Speaker 2: it instead of be the change is to of being

835
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Speaker 2: the complainer. They are gonna write down whatever you say.

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Speaker 2: Just say whatever you want to say. You want them

837
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Speaker 2: to pay attention to a younger player, talk about it.

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Speaker 2: You want them to talk like no one at Sacramento

839
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Speaker 2: right now was thinking. You know what, man, I really

840
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Speaker 2: love covering the terrible, the worst team in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: It's fun for everybody. I'm sure that's sarcasm.

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Speaker 4: Steve, how is Russell Westbrook still playing? And he and

843
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 4: by the way, his numbers on this awful Sacramento team

844
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Speaker 4: are pretty decent. Still I would say, yeah, he's guilty.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Russell Westbrook is one of those guys again,

846
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Speaker 4: he just he just steps in it all the time,

847
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 4: can never let his game speak for itself. And so

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Speaker 4: you know, taking on the media is never ever going

849
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Speaker 4: to win for you, ever gonna win for you.

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Speaker 3: Coming on next, Steve Hartman worked for the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about the Crosby trade?

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio?

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Speaker 3: That's right? And where living the dream? Living the dream.

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Speaker 2: Here on a Saturday evening on Fox Sports Radio, Now, Steve,

855
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: just one of my favorite phrases to say, you know,

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00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: you put a quarter in the jukebox and hear your

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00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: favorite song. You put a quarter in, Steve Hartman, you

858
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: can be regaled with stories of the Oakland Raiders from

859
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: back when the Raiders had the real commitment to excellence

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Speaker 2: started by Al Davis.

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Speaker 4: You know, Martin, I will say this about my years

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Speaker 4: with the LA Raiders. You know everyone I always get that, Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 4: I worked for the LA Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Hand up my bed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because well, Marcus Allen was always asked, you know

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Speaker 4: how I would I played for the LA Raiders. He

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Speaker 4: never played for the Oakland Raiders. Howie Long played one

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00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 4: year for the Oakland Raiders or us here with the

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Speaker 4: LA Raiders, the LA Raiders were unique. We even had

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Speaker 4: a thirty on thirty on US. I was interviewed and

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Speaker 4: everything else because it was an opportunity for.

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Speaker 3: The raster to go back and watch that.

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Speaker 2: Now that I know you, I've gona have to go

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00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: back and watch the thirty for thirty now that.

875
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 4: You know who directed it was Ice Here.

876
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

877
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 4: I loved straight out of uh yeah, straight out sight

878
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 4: out of l straight out of LA. Yes, you gotta

879
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 4: watch that end. I came the movie. We actually went

880
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 4: to the premiere of that and I was sitting next

881
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 4: to Jim market Steve, so we are a lot of

882
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 4: us were interviewed. They used me like several times, and

883
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: I'm sitting next to Jim Plunkett as we're watching this.

884
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 4: They didn't use him once.

885
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: Wow.

886
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 4: He looks at me, goes, I don't get it. You're

887
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 4: like the pr guy and I'm like the quarterback. I said,

888
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 4: I just had more interesting things to say Jim. The

889
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 4: bottom line is that's why they used me. Ice Key

890
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 4: love me.

891
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: Did that fracture your relationship with Jim?

892
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 4: He was the one guy when I joined the Raiders

893
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty four. He was the guy because guys

894
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 4: like Howie and Marcus were younger than me. Sure, but

895
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 4: when you know when we had La al Zada, but

896
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 4: Jim Plunkett, we had ray guy. I mean, we had

897
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: these legends still playing in the NFL, But the one

898
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 4: guy was most in awe up by far was Plunket.

899
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 4: I mean, Jim Plunkett to me was just like, Wow,

900
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 4: that's freaking Jim Plunket.

901
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: Well in the in modern day, yeah, if you talk

902
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 2: to most Raiders, And actually I found this to be fascinating.

903
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: Raheem moster running back, who's you know, you know I've

904
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: been on six or seven teams. Yeah, he was on

905
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: the Herd and said like he said nearly verbatim, like

906
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa is cool, Fred Warner is awesome. The best

907
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: player I've ever played with is Max Crosby. And he

908
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: played one year in Vegas with Crosby. And you just

909
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 2: see guys talk about Max Crosby and they talk about

910
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 2: him kind of the way that people make the Chuck

911
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: Norris jokes or you know, I'm trying to remember the

912
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: guy who cut down trees before him, Paul Bunyan jokes

913
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: right before him, right, so you had you.

914
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: Know, I love your Paul Bunyon reference. Continue. I just

915
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 4: want to hear this. I love that Paul Bunyon.

916
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: Don I'm wrong. That's the way they talk about Max.

917
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: I watched a beat report of I Note today UH

918
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: doing a hit for Baltimore saying that this is your

919
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 2: favorite player's favorite player, like Max Crosby, just his respect

920
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: and the level of respect he has around the league

921
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: going to a place like Baltimore. Baltimore giving up two

922
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: first round picks first time in thirty one years of existence.

923
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 2: For the Baltimore Ravens, they are trading their first round

924
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: pick in that way, like in this like for a

925
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: player of like what the Rams do, like by the.

926
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 4: Way, your fourteenth pick in the draft. So, Steve, Yes.

927
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: My initial take was, all right, I understand in a

928
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: vacuum trading Max Crosby. But this is the same regime

929
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: that extended Max Crosby just seventeen games ago.

930
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 4: Okay, first of all, I think, on the surface, the

931
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 4: way I look at it, Martin, this is a great

932
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 4: trade for both these teams. And I'll say this the Raiders,

933
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 4: Max Crosby is like a luxury. The reason Max Crosby

934
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 4: gets so much respect is he plays on bad teams

935
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 4: year after year after year, and this guy's running his

936
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 4: engine runs one hundred percent all the time. Sure, you

937
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 4: know it's not easy when you're on bad teams and

938
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 4: you're out of the playoffs every year to really get

939
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 4: fired up to play at an a level every single game,

940
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: every single play That's who Max Crosby is. He doesn't

941
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: have a lot of help. Imagine if he got some

942
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 4: help now, he's not going to get a lot of

943
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 4: help with the Ravens. They desperately need somebody to get

944
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 4: to the quarterback. That's why their defense has been so

945
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 4: bad the last couple of years. So he's going to

946
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 4: be very welcome, and I think it's a good trade

947
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 4: for the Ravens. But as far as the Raiders are concerned,

948
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 4: they need more. A guy like Max Crosby is a

949
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 4: luxury to them. They have so many holes to fill

950
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 4: that now, with the first pick in the draft, which

951
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 4: obviously they're gonna use on Mendoza, and the fourteenth pick

952
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 4: in the draft, which will obviously get a quality player

953
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 4: if they draft right, you got to start putting the

954
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 4: pieces together. You just to get two number ones. By

955
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 4: the way I was told, Dallas offered a first and second.

956
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 4: Cowboys desperately need a pass rusher a Max Krosby. He's

957
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 4: caliber as well, but they weren't gonna get off of

958
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 4: one into two, and the Ravens jumped in with two

959
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 4: number ones, and that's why the deal was done. But honestly,

960
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: I think it's a great deal for the Raiders because

961
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 4: they need help. They need to start, you know, hopefully

962
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 4: drafting well for the Raiders and putting some pieces together.

963
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 4: But for the Ravens getting themselves a superstar talent. And

964
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 4: I say that because again, this guy plays hard every

965
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 4: single play.

966
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: I just don't understand. I agree with the raven side

967
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: of things. I think especially too, like I equate great

968
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: pass rushers like great closers in baseball. They only matter

969
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: if you have the lead. Right, They only truly can

970
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: matter if you have the lead. They didn't take anything

971
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 2: away from the ability of a Miles Garrett or or

972
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons or Max Crosby. Takes nothing away from the ability,

973
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: but their impact is most felt.

974
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: When you have a lead, just like a closer.

975
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: Right, If you put the closer in and a we

976
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: got well, you know, we gotta get him some work.

977
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: We're down seven in the eighth, then we got to

978
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 2: get it to work. His stuff is still nasty. It

979
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: just doesn't matter, right. So that's why I look at

980
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: great pass rushers. So you add Max Crosby to a

981
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: Ravens team that, while missing the playoffs last year, still

982
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: has kind of Super Bowl or bust aspirations despite first

983
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: year head coach and and all that. That organization is

984
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: kind of still streamlined in the same way that it's

985
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: always been.

986
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: But on the Raider side of things.

987
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: Last year was an utter and abject disaster, and I

988
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 2: don't understand like you, the Raiders have a ton of holes.

989
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

990
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: I am not sold as much as everybody else that

991
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza is a plug and play day one, walk

992
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: in the doorstarter and is just taking over NFL on that.

993
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: I don't think he is on He could be on

994
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 3: any team.

995
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: Like, okay, slow down, slow down. All right, so you're Michigan.

996
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 4: You're showing your Michigan loyalty here. No no, you don't

997
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 4: think that Mendoza has talent?

998
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no no. First of all,

999
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: way a second, there's a.

1000
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 2: Why there's a Grand Canyon sized gap between Mendoza not

1001
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: having talent and Mendoza being able to walk in day

1002
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: one and impact winning in a major way.

1003
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think anybody expects him to go out

1004
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 4: and make them an eleven win team year one. Not

1005
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 4: that team. But he does have pieces. You got arguably

1006
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 4: the best tight end talent in the league in Bowers.

1007
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 4: I still believe in Ashton genty if he can get

1008
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 4: a little support in the passing game. Should you know

1009
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 4: everyone was stacked in the Box. I'm a big gente guy.

1010
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 4: I think he can still be a big time running

1011
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 4: back in this league. The thing that just impressed me

1012
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 4: about Mendoza is his work ethic and his mental attuity.

1013
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 4: I mean, this guy is very smart, and if he

1014
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 4: gets the right coaching, I think that he could be

1015
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: yes a savior for the Raider organization.

1016
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,479
Speaker 3: No, I don't, but I look at him, I don't

1017
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 3: think that. To me.

1018
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: Of the last few quarterback classes, the one the number

1019
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: one that has quote unquote been generational, it was Caleb Williams.

1020
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: That is umb like, that's the guy who I look, well,

1021
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: i feel like I have the golden ticket when I'm

1022
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: walking up to the draft uh podium.

1023
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 4: Fifty eight percent completion percentage this year.

1024
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: I'm talking about when I'm coming and when I'm walking

1025
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: into the draft day, like, that's the only one I've

1026
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: felt that way. Now, that doesn't mean that guys can't

1027
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: have success. Obviously, Rookie year Jayden Daniels went to the

1028
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: NFC Championship Game, second year Drake May went to the

1029
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. But so I'm not saying that Fernando Mendoza

1030
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: can't is just automatically going.

1031
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 3: To struggle right.

1032
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: But if you had asked me, do I think that

1033
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels is gonna have a winning record in his

1034
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: rookie year, I said, hell no, ends up going to

1035
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: the NFC Championship Game.

1036
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 3: Which is the thing.

1037
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: That I question on the Raider side of things, is

1038
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: if you're drafting a rookie quarterback with the number one

1039
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: overall pick, who you seem to with the release of

1040
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: Geno Smith, you seem to be walking in to be

1041
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: your starting quarterback day one.

1042
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 3: You do have a ton of holes.

1043
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: But also like Patrick Mahomes is coming off of injury,

1044
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: Bo Nicks broke his foot in the second and last

1045
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 2: game of the year, right, and the Chargers offensive line,

1046
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 2: who knows, they seem to have injuries every single year.

1047
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 2: At what point are you going to start winning? Because

1048
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: so far, through seventeen games, it's been a complete disaster.

1049
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: So at what point do you start? Like the Patriots

1050
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: had won four games the past two seasons before going

1051
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl, the Commanders had the second they

1052
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: had earned the Jaydon Daniels pick before picking him and

1053
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: going to the NFC Championship Game.

1054
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1055
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 2: So it's like this works the first happens every single year,

1056
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: and most of the time what happens is you get

1057
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: that quarterback or that head coach. Combo, when you're Vegas,

1058
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: you just hired your new head coach, You're about to

1059
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 2: pick your quarterback.

1060
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 3: Isn't winning time now?

1061
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 4: Okay, So let's go back to nineteen seventy nine. All right,

1062
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 4: a long time NFL assistant coach by the name of

1063
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 4: Bill Walsh finally gets an opportunity to be a head

1064
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 4: coach in the NFL, and in the third round of

1065
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 4: that draft his year he gets hired, they take Notre

1066
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 4: Dame's Joe Montana, who nobody looked at as some guy

1067
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 4: that's going to be any superstar in the NFL. But

1068
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 4: what Walsh was able to do from day one with

1069
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 4: Joe Montana is create, well, the guy that would become

1070
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 4: Joe Montana and within three years took a complete losing

1071
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 4: for organization and won a Super Bowl. I could see

1072
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 4: a very similar situation with Clint Kubiak and for Nana Mendoza.

1073
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 4: I think that that Kubiak look at his father is

1074
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 4: a super Bowl winning coach. I think at Kubiak, even

1075
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 4: though he was only coordinator of the one year in Seattle.

1076
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 4: Obviously some of it. You know where he impressed me

1077
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 4: is in that NFC Championship game because he got his

1078
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 4: quarterback Sam Darno. Will played the best game of his

1079
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 4: life that day because they couldn't stop Matthew Stafford. I mean,

1080
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 4: here's a funny bag. You know that people like to

1081
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: talk about the Drake may comparisons to Matthew s for MVP.

1082
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 4: There's no comparison. Matthew Stafford was the MVP and he

1083
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 4: showed it against Seattle. But the bottom line is is

1084
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 4: that you have an opportunity with a first time coach

1085
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 4: head coach in Kubiak with Mendoza to put it together.

1086
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 4: I think they can do it, and I think that

1087
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 4: because they're both starting fresh together, it's going to make

1088
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 4: a huge difference, just like you did with Bill Walsh

1089
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 4: and Joe Montana back in nineteen seventy nine.

1090
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 2: The only difference with that is is that first of all,

1091
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 2: Klink Kubiak, I don't know if he'll be Bill Walsh,

1092
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: but I'd say I'll leave that aside. You're spending one

1093
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 2: to one on Mendoza, whereas you're spending the third round

1094
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: pick on Joe Montana.

1095
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 4: But it's still the dynamic between a coach and a quarterback, right,

1096
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 4: isn't We talk about this all the time.

1097
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: I get that, I'm not saying not taking nothing away

1098
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: from that, But when you are walking to the podium

1099
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 2: with that number one pick, even honestly, the first five

1100
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 2: to ten picks of the NFL Draft, you're walking are

1101
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: gonna say like this. You should feel like you're walking

1102
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 2: to the podium to get a guy that is going

1103
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: to change your fortune.

1104
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 4: And I believe they are, because again, here's the thing

1105
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 4: about it.

1106
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: You don't know that about the third round pick. You

1107
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: think I should get a guy I who can play?

1108
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 3: Well? No, they well.

1109
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 4: Obviously Walsh had an idea of what he wanted to

1110
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 4: do in the West Coast offense, and he looked at

1111
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 4: a quarterback that he thought could execute him within a

1112
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 4: couple of years. He was. The thing about Mendoza that

1113
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 4: I think is going to work for him on a

1114
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 4: bad team, which the Raiders still are as they put

1115
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 4: the pieces together, is the fact that he's had so

1116
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 4: much diversity in his own football career. He was a

1117
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 4: zero recruit. He basically lost a whole year of high

1118
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 4: school football with COVID and then no one recruited and

1119
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 4: he's going to go to the Ivy League. He ends

1120
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 4: up finally getting an offerer to go to Berkeley. By

1121
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 4: the way, graduates Berkeley in three years.

1122
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 3: He was a grad.

1123
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 4: Student in the end of this last year. So he's

1124
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 4: super smart. I think he will be able to deal

1125
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 4: with the Bumpson bruises that he's going to get. He's

1126
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 4: going to get beat up. It could be a long

1127
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 4: rookie season, but he will survive. Just remember Peyton Manning

1128
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 4: through two twenty eight picks is rakie year. He survived

1129
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 4: quite nicely. I think Mendoza will do the same. I

1130
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 4: think the Raiders their eighties there eighties a commitment to excellence.

1131
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 3: That's how Al Davis impersonation.

1132
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 4: You know, you know I worked there. This is a

1133
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 4: true story. I worked a full year for the Raiders

1134
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 4: before he actually said my name. And I was in

1135
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 4: the office one day and I was I would almost

1136
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 4: ignore him because you know, it just seemed like he.

1137
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 3: Didn't even know that regardless.

1138
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 4: And then he walked by. I saw him, and then

1139
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 4: I sort of looked away, and then he stepped back.

1140
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 4: He looked right at me and goes how's it gone, Steve,

1141
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 4: I almost fell over. I wish everyone could have the

1142
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 4: chance that I had to actually worry. And this is

1143
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 4: when he was, you know, not the crypt keeper at

1144
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 4: the end of his life. Sure, this was him in

1145
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 4: his prime, in his fifties. That experience. You would have

1146
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 4: fit in quite nicely, Martin wou fitting nicely, do you

1147
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 4: know what, Steve?

1148
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 7: Thanks?

1149
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could have. You could have been a Rata. Yeah, yeah,

1150
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 4: you could have been a Rata.

1151
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 3: They were always one of my favorite teams.

1152
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: Like when I was a kid growing up, I was

1153
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: that that Super Bowl run.

1154
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 3: I always liked the Raiders. I like the believe it

1155
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: or not.

1156
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 2: As a kid growing up, I was a Saints fan

1157
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: obviously being born in New Orleans. Sure, and I never

1158
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: root it for any other team in the NFC because

1159
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: invariably they we saw them more often in the Saints

1160
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: loss to everybody. My other two teams that I liked

1161
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: were the Raiders and the Jets. So it's just it's

1162
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: something about Uh.

1163
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 4: It really is amazing. When I got hired in nineteen

1164
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 4: eighty four, there were seven of us in the total

1165
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 4: front office of the Raiders, seven people. We had a receptionist,

1166
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 4: two secretaries, seven people in the front office. Upstairs, we

1167
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 4: had a guy named Ron Wolf running our personnel department,

1168
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 4: and mister Davis was upstairs. That's how we were in LA.

1169
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: That's how many they got in Cincinnati still to this day.

1170
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: Coming up next, we'll talk about the other trade that

1171
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 2: has happened in the NFL. I think that people have

1172
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: gotten this thing all wrong. Is Steve one of those people?

1173
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 3: We'll find out?

1174
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 2: Coming up next, Martin wife Steve Hartman, Fox Sports Radio.

1175
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: It's fitting that you would play god Dog. What's the

1176
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: name of this song?

1177
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 3: Mary? All time rock and roll? This is one of

1178
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 3: those you know the song business.

1179
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: But I know the song, can sing it, but I'm

1180
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: not exactly sure what the title is. As I explained it,

1181
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: because about an hour ago, off the air, Steve Hartman

1182
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: went on a full commercial blake, a full commercial break, soliloquy,

1183
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: lamb basting the rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

1184
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 3: Yes, carry, what are we doing?

1185
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: Well?

1186
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 4: I mean, look at I mean there are great talents,

1187
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 4: but should Mariah Carey be in the rock and Roll

1188
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 4: Hall Hall of Fame? Is that rock and roll is

1189
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 4: Whinny Houston? Rock and roll is Dolly Parton? Rock and roll.

1190
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 4: I'm picking on some of the ladies right now, but

1191
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 4: I mean, is hip hop rock and roll? I mean,

1192
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 4: I don't know rock and roll? Right, isn't that different

1193
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 4: from other genres of music. I don't hate though.

1194
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 2: It's not a terrible take, Steve, but I do think

1195
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: that it has turned into a catch all for music.

1196
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 4: I mean, should jay Z be in the same Hall

1197
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 4: of Fame as Metallica?

1198
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 2: Depends on how far you extrapolated out. I suppose they're

1199
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: both definitely professional music.

1200
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 4: Well, they're Hall of famers in the very specific music.

1201
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 4: But should they be included in the same hall of fame, say,

1202
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 4: the basketball Hall of Fame? Right, should a women's basketball

1203
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 4: coach be in the same Hall of Fame as a

1204
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 4: men's basketball coach?

1205
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 3: When the Basketball Hall of Fame is such a such a.

1206
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: Smorgas board of just they have high school coaches in

1207
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: the Basketball.

1208
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame.

1209
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: High school found out watching TV metal. Luck Lemon is

1210
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: in the Basketball Hall of Fame.

1211
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 4: He is as a contributor. They put a number of

1212
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 4: they put teams in the Hall of Fame. They put

1213
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 4: the nineteen sixty six Texas Texas Western team in the

1214
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. How about this. There was a year

1215
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 4: the year that Phil Jackson went into the Hall of Fame.

1216
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 4: There were no players picked that year, there were only coaches.

1217
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 4: Can you imagine if you had a year with the

1218
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 4: Baseball Hall of Fame when they only put managers in,

1219
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 4: where you had a pro football Hall of Fame where

1220
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 4: they only put coaches in. They actually had a year

1221
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 4: the year that Phil Jackson, Roy Williams was put in

1222
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 4: they had some couple of international coaches where they had

1223
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 4: no players picked. There's almost as many coaches in the

1224
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 4: basketball Hall of Fame as our players in the Hall

1225
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 4: of Fame.

1226
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: See what the the Basketball Hall of Fame needs to

1227
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: do with Deion Sanders has suggested for years the NFL

1228
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame needs to do, which is differentiate, separate,

1229
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: make a little bit of difference between who.

1230
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 4: I want to I want to throw this out there

1231
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 4: because I did this off air with you, all right,

1232
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 4: I just want to throw it out there. So there's

1233
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 4: no such thing as the NBA Hall of Fame. But

1234
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 4: to people, when people say he's elected to the NBA

1235
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, there is no NBA Hall of Fame.

1236
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 4: There's Nae Smith Hall of Fame.

1237
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: I want Steve Disager's opinion on this after, because after

1238
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 2: Steve runs through this, I want I want.

1239
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 4: All right, So here, so I'm I'm going to say

1240
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 4: I have a ten man class for the first class

1241
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 4: for the NBA Hall of Fame n b A, So

1242
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 4: I go pioneers. So here are my first ten inductees

1243
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 4: into the brand new Steve Hartman sanctioned NBA Hall of Fame.

1244
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 4: The two earliest big stars of the NBA were George

1245
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 4: Mike and and Bob Coosey. They're in Bill Russell and

1246
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 4: Will Chamberlain, Jerry West and Oscar Robertson, Kareem Abdul Jabbar,

1247
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 4: Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, and Mike Jordan. Those are my

1248
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 4: first ten inductees into the new NBA Hall of Fame.

1249
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 4: And I know Wheretler's doctor ja, I mean, where's Kobe

1250
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 4: all the hey? After that you have five man classes.

1251
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 4: Eventually you catch up, you know, with some of the

1252
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 4: big games over many years. But I would do a

1253
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 4: ten man class. I just gave you, and then every

1254
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,959
Speaker 4: year after that, five man class, five man class, five

1255
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 4: man class. By the way, coaches contributors are being completely separate.

1256
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 3: Now players only players only one.

1257
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: Hundred percent agree with your second point of coaches and

1258
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: contributor that they should not all be looped in together.

1259
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 2: But let's check it over to Steve the Sager because

1260
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: I would love to get its opinion on that, and

1261
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 2: the and the scoreboard in the world.

1262
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 7: That went quickly. So you're saying later for Tim Duncan,

1263
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 7: Lebron James, Kobe Bryant.

1264
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 4: Correct, So I'm going pioneer since the first It's like

1265
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 4: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You had Elvis,

1266
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 4: you had the Everly Brothers, you know, stuff like that.

1267
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 7: Baseball started with Ty Cobbs exactly.

1268
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 4: So the first ten again, I got Mike and KU's Wilt, Russell, West,

1269
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 4: Oscar Kareem, Bird, Magic and Jordan.

1270
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 7: Can I just say out loud the name Wilt Chamberlain

1271
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 7: because I hear too many people this is the year

1272
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 7: twenty twenty six. People. I realize it was a while ago,

1273
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 7: but if you start having a discussion about the all

1274
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 7: time of anything, you better know people in the past

1275
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 7: or else stop talking. I have heard too many people

1276
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 7: talk about the top ten basketball players of all time

1277
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 7: and never mentioned the name Wilt Chamberlain, which is astoundingly bad. Again,

1278
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 7: if he doesn't come to your mind, you probably shouldn't

1279
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 7: be having that conversation.

1280
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 4: Well, and as Steve you like, I know Wilt and

1281
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 4: saw willed. And so my point is this when people say, well,

1282
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 4: he was so much bigger than everyone or this, that

1283
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 4: and everything else, with his level of athleticism at his size,

1284
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 4: he would even be more dominant. Now you don't think

1285
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 4: he would take a part a guy like Jokic, Are

1286
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 4: you kidding?

1287
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 7: Maybe the wholes throw out the baby with the bathwater

1288
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 7: argument usually doesn't work for anything, and people try and

1289
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 7: get away with it, such as you know it's what

1290
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 7: two inches larger to steal second base. Now, if it

1291
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,959
Speaker 7: was so easy for show Hey to steal fifty base

1292
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 7: as a cup, why didn't everybody steal fifty base? Because

1293
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 7: it's not easy.

1294
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 4: It's not easy.

1295
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 7: Will average thirty points a game? Anybody else?

1296
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has Jordan fifty points a game for an

1297
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 4: entire year. But you know what's even more remarkable. Two

1298
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 4: of his stats that year he averaged fifty points a game.

1299
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 4: You know, they played an eighty game schedule. Then he

1300
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 4: played the full game in seventy nine of the eighty

1301
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 4: games he actually averaged forty eight and a half minutes

1302
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 4: a game for an entire season.

1303
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Speaker 2: That you want to talk about. I know that I

1304
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 2: think SGA broke a record recently with most twenty point

1305
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: games in a row or something like that, where over

1306
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 2: one hundred. Right, there will never be ever in the

1307
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 2: history of the NBA ever somebody who breaks that minute

1308
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 2: played record for a season.

1309
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 3: Like that average minute play Zo point five. That was

1310
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 3: his average minute.

1311
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 4: He only had one game he missed eight minutes the

1312
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 4: entire year. Issue, never filed out of a single game

1313
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 4: in his entire fourteen year career. Never once did he

1314
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 4: fell out of a game.

1315
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 7: If the Stars averaged thirty eight minutes a game for

1316
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 7: the season, that is.

1317
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,479
Speaker 4: I always said this about Iverson averaged forty one minutes

1318
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 4: a game for his career. That little guy, phenomenal talent.

1319
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 7: That was one of the great runs to the finals

1320
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 7: that I have seen with one guy Willing And we've

1321
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 7: talked about like Lebron in the early days, and you're

1322
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 7: talking about a guy that's what six feet on hundred

1323
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 7: fifty exactly, He's not Lebron's size and still got shilly

1324
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 7: to the phenomenally. By the way, as far as this

1325
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 7: year's Basketball Hall of Fame Springfield, Massachusetts, and I agree

1326
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 7: with your discussion about maybe something different. It's not the

1327
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 7: fault of the Basketball Hall of Fame. They are on

1328
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 7: the Hall of Fame for the sport of basketball. Therefore,

1329
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 7: all of these other peoples, including from Europe or women's hoops.

1330
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 4: All of it in high school. There are four part

1331
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 4: of Basketbach is in the Basketball Hall of Fame.

1332
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 7: Who only coached Mark Few Gonzaga. Is that for the

1333
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 7: basketball Calvin Sampson up this year? And I believe Doc

1334
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 7: Rivers is up this year.

1335
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 4: Yes, and you know what else, says Dick Mada.

1336
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 7: Yes, the Lake Washington and all always it is final

1337
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 7: four weekend. We'll rEFInd out where. I think it's twenty

1338
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 7: one finalists.

1339
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 4: It's the Jerry Colangel Hall of Fame. He has all

1340
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 4: the votes one man.

1341
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 7: After what he did for USA basketball, I give it

1342
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,479
Speaker 7: to him. Whatever you win, he's got it great.

1343
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 4: He has total control of the Hall of Fame.

1344
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 7: We have an update from the World Baseball Classic in Houston.

1345
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 7: The Americans were getting shut out by Great Britain won

1346
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 7: nothing in the fifth inning. The US had won its

1347
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 7: tournament opener last night against Brazil. Had Trek Scoobel from

1348
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 7: Detroit on the mound tonight, his one start for the

1349
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 7: US in this tourney. He allowed a home run on

1350
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 7: the first pitch and then three innings, five strikeouts, no walks,

1351
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 7: but the US was getting shut out until Kyle Schwarber

1352
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 7: has just homered and the lead is now three to

1353
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 7: one US over Great Britain in the bottom of the

1354
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 7: fifth inning, going for the upset. Panama is leading on

1355
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 7: FS one at Puerto Rico. It's two to one. Puerto

1356
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 7: Rico has two outs, bases loaded. Bottom of the ninth.

1357
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 7: Venezuela leads ten to two against Israel in the bottom

1358
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 7: of the eighth. You mentioned the name Luisa Riaz earlier

1359
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 7: in the show. This is a guy known as a

1360
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,959
Speaker 7: great hitter, not at all a power hitter. The guy

1361
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 7: in recent years won three straight batting titles, but only

1362
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 7: once has had even ten home runs in a season. Well,

1363
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 7: Luisa Riaz has two home runs for Venezuela. Tonight he

1364
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 7: has three hits, five RBIs in the game, and it

1365
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 7: turns out in the World Baseball Classic three years ago

1366
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 7: he had a two homer game.

1367
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 4: By the way, he had two bombs, Yes, like bombs.

1368
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 4: It's like where is that at Major?

1369
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 7: The great Sarah Langs, the baseball researcher, comes out with

1370
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 7: this debts that Louis Rayahs, in his entire major and

1371
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 7: minor league career, only has one multi homer game, and

1372
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 7: for Venezuela, he now has done it in back to

1373
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 7: back tournaments astound the NBA wins for Orlando and Atlanta.

1374
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 7: Brooklyn won at Detroit one oh seven to one oh

1375
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 7: five in a tight game. The nets on free throws

1376
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 7: were twenty seven for twenty eight. Brooklyn had trailed by

1377
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 7: seventeen points early in the fourth quarter. The Clippers Kawhi

1378
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 7: Leonard with twenty points in the first half, Clips lead

1379
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 7: sixty four to sixty three at Memphis early in the third.

1380
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 7: Among the college basketball games, Duke beat North Carolina, Marquette

1381
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 7: upset Yukon, Wisconsin won at Purdue Women's hoops in the

1382
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 7: Conference SEMIS. Of the Big ten victories for UCLA and Iowa,

1383
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 7: South Carolina and Texas each one in Conference SEMIS. In

1384
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 7: the SEC NHL, Buffalo won at six straight game. The

1385
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 7: forty nine Ers gave kicker Eddie Pinero a four year

1386
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,439
Speaker 7: contract Joey Logano earned the poll for Sunday's NASCAR race

1387
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 7: in Phoenix. Joseph Neugarten took the indiecar event in Phoenix.

1388
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 3: Today. Back to you, thanks, Steve.

1389
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 2: With the iHeartRadio app, you can stream us wherever you

1390
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 2: happen to be. Just catch us on all of our

1391
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven and

1392
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,800
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1393
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,000
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1394
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: every day, and be sure to select Fox Sports Radio

1395
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 2: is one of your presets in the iHeart app, so

1396
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 2: it'll always pop up at the top of your screen.

1397
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 2: So Steve, this is a little bit of chilly season

1398
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: in the NFL where you see the trades get made

1399
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 2: and the proclamations that follow with them. But I I

1400
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 2: watched the Bears, you know, all seventeen games last year,

1401
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 2: and by the end of the end of the year,

1402
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 2: DJ Moore was option number four man. You can kind

1403
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 2: of see that was how things were going. Because first

1404
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: of all, Colton Lovelin was like, actually, Tyler Warren, move over,

1405
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 2: I'm the.

1406
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 3: Best tighten in this class. Then you had.

1407
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 2: Roma Donja who worked out with Caleb prior to and

1408
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 2: have the rapports like they're actually like buddies, right right.

1409
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 2: Luther Burden's second round pick got a little nicked up

1410
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 2: in training camp, but you saw him explode into the

1411
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: scene down the stretch of the year and too. Honestly,

1412
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 2: in that draft class, I was like, are we sure

1413
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 2: that Travis Hunter is a better wide receiver than Luther Burden?

1414
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 2: Like I had, you know, I was like, I know

1415
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 2: he's a better cornerback, but are we sure he's a

1416
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 2: better receiver?

1417
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 6: Right?

1418
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 3: So that was how I felt about him at the time.

1419
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 2: Then you had Cole Comet, the tried and true guy

1420
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: who's been there for quite some time, and DJ more

1421
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:34,839
Speaker 2: May alleged the team.

1422
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,879
Speaker 3: And receiving yards it was like six hundred yards.

1423
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: And I watched this trade go by with Brandon Bean

1424
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: giving up a second round pick and got back a fifth.

1425
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 3: So let's call it mid round value.

1426
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw that one out of

1427
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 2: a lot, but uh, you know so, But if you

1428
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 2: want to, if you want to not take away from

1429
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 2: getting the fifth as well, so maybe if you want

1430
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: to call it a third when it's all said and done,

1431
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: because your agreed second round pick obviously way more valuable

1432
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 2: than But like DJ Moore, if DJ Moore is my

1433
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 2: wide receiver number one, then I am in the market

1434
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 2: for a wide receiver number one, right Like, if that's

1435
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: the answer to the question, then I need to be

1436
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:15,440
Speaker 2: asking different questions.

1437
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 4: Wide receiver is a very tricky position to judge in

1438
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,839
Speaker 4: my opinion. I mean, you have certain guys that obviously

1439
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 4: have big talent, but you don't think Jamar Chase benefit

1440
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 4: from having his college quarterback with him, of course, So

1441
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 4: you know, really what it comes down to with receivers

1442
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,799
Speaker 4: is gaining the trust so the quarterback and getting that connection.

1443
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 4: So a lot of times, you know, wide receivers to

1444
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 4: sort of fly under the radar suddenly become all pro

1445
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 4: talents because for whatever reason, that quarterback finds a connection

1446
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 4: with that receiver. You know, Marvin Harrison was a great

1447
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 4: college player at Syracuse, but no one could have projected

1448
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 4: he was going to be that receiver and you know,

1449
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 4: become one of the dominant receivers of all time with

1450
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 4: the Indianapolis Colts because Peyton Manning fell in love with him.

1451
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 4: Of course, he has only had Reggie Wayne to throw

1452
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 4: to as well, So I don't know DJ Moore has talent.

1453
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 4: Is he a one? He could be a one, But

1454
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 4: again that's going to come down to how they utilize

1455
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 4: him in that offense. You know, we have a J

1456
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 4: Brown who looked like at number one? Did he not

1457
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 4: for the Eagles and then all of a sudden he

1458
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 4: wasn't a number one.

1459
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 2: See I think that has more to do with the

1460
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 2: ability of the quarterback than the ability of the receiver.

1461
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know the ability to quarterback. It just

1462
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 4: disappeared from one year to the next.

1463
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 3: No would disappeared. Was a two thousand yard rusher.

1464
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 4: I think, yes, Saekwon Barkley was the come down player

1465
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 4: of the year in the NFL this year.

1466
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 3: To come he was.

1467
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 4: You know, it was only with a couple of big

1468
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 4: games late in the season he finally got his yards

1469
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 4: per carry to four yards and carry. Think about it,

1470
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 4: based on what he did two years ago. Was there

1471
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 4: and he wasn't hurt, So it's like he was the

1472
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 4: come down player of the year.

1473
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 2: But I just when I look at the DJ Moore

1474
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 2: going to Buffalo and I see the like they Brandon.

1475
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 4: Bean, Stephan Diggs was going to have the impact he

1476
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:16,879
Speaker 4: had when he went to Buffalo.

1477
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Diggs Diggs is a I mean, I think

1478
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 3: the DD Moore is gonna have an impact.

1479
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 4: You didn't think that. I certainly didn't think that Buffalo

1480
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 4: got some guy juggernaut when they got Stefan Diggs.

1481
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 3: And Diggs didn't. I don't think Diggs was a juggernaut

1482
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:30,919
Speaker 3: when he was in Buffalo.

1483
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 4: Like he was a good he was initially. I think

1484
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 4: he had a big part in getting Josh Allen to

1485
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 4: develop his as a quarterback.

1486
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about There's no doubt that Stefan Diggs

1487
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 2: made Josh Allen a better quarterback.

1488
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 3: I agree with that. But like when we are.

1489
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 2: Never did we say Stephan Diggs is a top five

1490
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 2: receiver in this league.

1491
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 3: Like he's not. But I'm just saying, like so, I'm

1492
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 3: not saying that that's what.

1493
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 4: It didn't take long for New England to figure that out.

1494
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:59,839
Speaker 2: But that's what we've seen Brandon Bean make these moves

1495
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 2: time again, going all the way back to Kelvin Benjamin

1496
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 2: when he was a distressed asset for Carolina, he has

1497
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:10,839
Speaker 2: picked up distressed wide receiver assets that have gotten guys

1498
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 2: that the team no longer wanted, right, That's what the

1499
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: case for Diggs, that was the case for Dj Moore,

1500
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 2: that was the case for Kelvin Benjamin, and there's one

1501
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 2: that was the case for Mary Cooper. Right, he continues

1502
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 2: to make this move, and you know what the number

1503
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: one thing that shows me this, Steve, this.

1504
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,799
Speaker 3: Is how you can whenever your coach gets.

1505
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 2: Fired in your GM stays remember where everybody is on

1506
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: game day. Okay, because the GM is up there with

1507
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 2: the owner and the coaches down on the field.

1508
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 3: So as that GM is.

1509
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 2: Sitting there watching Brandon Cooks, who he had shinned a

1510
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 2: few weeks prior, drop a ball that ends up being

1511
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 2: an interception, he can tell Terry Pagula, you know, you know.

1512
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 3: Terry, that was really a catch.

1513
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 2: The refs got that one wrong instead of acknowledging the

1514
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 2: fact that, like if maybe if we didn't have a

1515
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 2: practice WiDi receiver out here, and I have a ton

1516
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 2: of back for Brandon Cooks in his career, but he's

1517
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: death of the back nine. He's on the back two, right,

1518
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: So I'm not trying to just completely kill the guy,

1519
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 2: but like that's why the team didn't go that much

1520
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 2: farther that and Josh Allen turns.

1521
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 3: The ball over time.

1522
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,679
Speaker 4: Well, now they finally have moved on from their old

1523
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 4: coach and they, you know, basically elevated the next guy

1524
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 4: from within the organization. I don't know where the Buffalo

1525
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 4: Bills are. I was absolutely convinced that last year was

1526
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 4: going to be the year for the Bills. It was

1527
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 4: a golden opportunity. No Mahomes, no Joe Burrow, no Lamar Jackson.

1528
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 4: The gate was open for Buffalo.

1529
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 2: The problem is the team's not good, like I mean,

1530
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 2: the teams usould certainly phrasey, the team's not great. The

1531
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 2: team is good, the quarterback is outstanding, but the team itself.

1532
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 3: Around the quarterback is not good.

1533
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 2: And when you look at the last at least two

1534
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 2: Super Bowl winners quarterback whatever you want to say, Like

1535
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 2: if you think Sandonno's great, think Jail Hurt's great, whatever,

1536
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 2: but you look at those guys, look at the teams

1537
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: around those guys. Those teams were teams of monstars. Okay,

1538
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: you know as well as I do.

1539
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 4: The New England Patriots everything had to fall in place

1540
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 4: for them. Think about it. In four playoff games, they

1541
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 4: didn't score twenty points in any of the games. Their

1542
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 4: quarterback was sacked twenty one times in four playoff games.

1543
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,759
Speaker 4: That is not a great team. They had a miracle

1544
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 4: season with the easiest schedule that any team had played

1545
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 4: with played for since nineteen ninety nine. They took full

1546
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 4: advantage of it. So when you look at the Buffo situation,

1547
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 4: the idea of them bouncing back and taking control of

1548
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 4: the AFC East is very real. I don't know who

1549
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 4: the quarterback is going to be in Miami. Is going

1550
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 4: to be Malik Willis, I don't know itch direction they're

1551
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 4: going to go at quarterback. I think that is very

1552
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 4: real that New England is going to fall back to

1553
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 4: be like an eight to nine team, which I think

1554
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 4: is pretty much where they are. That like a nine

1555
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 4: to eight, eight to nine type team. Drake May after

1556
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 4: his horrific postseason, is going to come back to earth.

1557
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 4: He's not going to be able to load up numbers

1558
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 4: like he did against a really weak schedule last year.

1559
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 4: So Buffalo could be there, and that could be Djaymore.

1560
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 4: Maybe he's gonna be, you know, a guy that will

1561
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,759
Speaker 4: have an impact and get you know, Josh Allen comfortable.

1562
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 4: Josh Allen needs that guy. I'm still a believer in

1563
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 4: Josh Allen. Josh Allen to me is a competitor. I

1564
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 4: love his competitive spirit. But they're not getting better and

1565
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 4: they needed to make some changes. They did, and now

1566
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 4: we'll just see if it works.

1567
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 2: Coming up next, we'll play in addition of Who you

1568
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: Got NBA Edition? Steve test that nogging. Let's see what

1569
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 2: you got between those two ears. Already, what's to the brain?

1570
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 2: All right, he says, I'm ready. Martin Wise, Steve Hartman,

1571
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio coming to you live for the Fox

1572
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. Its Martin Wise and Steve Hartman. Let's

1573
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 2: play a little game of who you got?

1574
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 9: All right?

1575
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 10: That's right, it's who you got? Thinking of a player

1576
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 10: from around the world of sports. Here it's an NBA edition.

1577
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 10: By the way, I'm gonna give you guys clues, got

1578
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 10: ten total here. Each one is hopefully going to help

1579
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 10: you guys narrow down who this is. Make it a

1580
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 10: little bit.

1581
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 4: Is this active player or is it a I guess

1582
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 4: we'll find out.

1583
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 10: Okay, one can not be one of the clues, all right,

1584
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 10: First clue, this player was drafted in the first round

1585
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 10: out of college.

1586
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 3: First rounder.

1587
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 9: All right, I will no strikes or anything either.

1588
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 3: I'll guess Anthony Bennett.

1589
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 9: Not Anthony Bennett. Huge bust.

1590
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 3: I will say.

1591
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 9: Michael Thompson, not Michael Thompson.

1592
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 3: All right.

1593
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 10: So next clue, He's played for four different teams in

1594
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 10: his NBA career, and again I'm not telling you whether

1595
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:37,879
Speaker 10: he's active yet.

1596
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 2: More different teams. Know Michael Thompson's kid just had a

1597
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 2: hell of.

1598
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 4: A catch he did. I've known Trace Thompson since he

1599
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 4: was thirteen years old. Great guy, all.

1600
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 3: Right, four different teams. First rounder has been traded that

1601
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:53,759
Speaker 3: many times.

1602
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant has been traded more than that, but I'll

1603
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: go with that's been on more teams than that.

1604
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 4: But I'll go with first rounder and four teams.

1605
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 3: I got a better guess.

1606
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 4: I will say Chauncey Billups.

1607
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 10: Not Chauncey Billups either. I haven't heard a bad guess

1608
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 10: yet though, so it's a good start. Third clue, He's

1609
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 10: played thirteen seasons and made six All Star Games, five

1610
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 10: of which came consecutively.

1611
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 3: Five straight All Stars.

1612
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 2: And six all Let's see, and so that is not

1613
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 2: gonna It means it's not D'Angelo Russell, who have popped

1614
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:34,799
Speaker 2: in my brain for whatever reason.

1615
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 3: Steve, you got a guess?

1616
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 4: First I'm gonna say, Blake Griffin, that's a good guess.

1617
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:40,759
Speaker 9: Blake Griffin's correct.

1618
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: Wow, Hell, Steve, that's a good guess. That's a good guess.

1619
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 3: How about it?

1620
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 4: Well, I knew that Blake Griffin was a sixth time

1621
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 4: as soon as it said six time All Star. Then

1622
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 4: I was going through my head the remember he latched

1623
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 4: on with a couple of teams late. Sure, so, uh.

1624
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 2: The four teams that Blake Griffin played for, I can't.

1625
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously Clippers.

1626
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 9: I hate that you got this so fast.

1627
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 2: So the four teams you played before he played for

1628
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 2: the Pistons, I see where he left immediately after leaving

1629
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 2: the Clippers, right.

1630
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 9: The hardest one is where he ended his career.

1631
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 3: I think that one.

1632
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 4: Ended his career in Boston, all right, Right, so you

1633
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 4: got that one that I know.

1634
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 3: We should play for the Brooklyn Nets in between. There

1635
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 3: you go.

1636
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 4: So I guess the only reason I said Blake Griffin

1637
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 4: he's He's one of the finalists for the Basketball Hall

1638
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 4: of Fame this year, so I've been doing a little

1639
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 4: research on him recently.

1640
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 3: That should be first ballot.

1641
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 4: But when he said six All Star games, five in

1642
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 4: a row, immediately Blake Griffin's name came to my head.

1643
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 9: Why that's crazy?

1644
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 3: All right?

1645
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 9: Do you guys want to hear the other clues that

1646
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 9: I mean, do.

1647
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 4: You normally get said on like the third clue?

1648
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 9: Not when the pool was still that broad.

1649
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 2: Generally needs to be at least some identifying factor besides

1650
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: the stats and the.

1651
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 9: Right which we would have got to next.

1652
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 10: He was he has not one an NBA championship, He

1653
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 10: won the NBA Rookie of the Year award, he won

1654
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 10: Naysmith College Player.

1655
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 9: Of the Year award.

1656
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 4: At that point he would have gotten.

1657
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, that one.

1658
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 10: I think at least knowing Steve just your encyclopedia brain, well,

1659
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 10: I think that he missed his first NBA season due

1660
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 10: to injury, debuting the following year. He played college basketball

1661
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 10: at Oklahoma. Ninth clue he famously jumped over the hood

1662
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 10: of a car to dunk during the twenty eleven Slam

1663
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 10: Dunk Contest. Did he actually cleared the car debatable, which

1664
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 10: is like, yeah.

1665
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 2: He jumped over more to car than anybody else was

1666
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 2: jumping over.

1667
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I want to be go ahead.

1668
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 9: I was just gonna say.

1669
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 10: The last clue is he's best known for his time

1670
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 10: on the Clippers, where he helped establish the Lopsidi era.

1671
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 2: The funniest thing is, for some reason, I don't even

1672
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: know if the All Stars line up, but I was

1673
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 2: thinking of his television teammate now, John wall As that

1674
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 2: was going to be my next guest was John wall

1675
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 2: through my played like thirteen seasons scenes about right, but

1676
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 2: like the four teams with the bounce around, right, because

1677
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 2: you have your career one time, one place, and then

1678
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 2: you're kind of in the way of the NBA.

1679
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 4: You kind of well, Martin, this is when when you

1680
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 4: when you're a stack guy, like a I'm and just

1681
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 4: sit there writing type stats all day long, which is

1682
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 4: what I do. When you start when you get into

1683
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 4: like specific numbers of All Star teams and everything that

1684
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 4: those numbers resonate with me. Most people are.

1685
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 2: Like, no, honestly, I kind of want to do it again.

1686
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 2: I was like, I just want to let's test the machine.

1687
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 2: That's what I want to test. What's the most obscure

1688
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 2: player you think you could get, Like I bet you

1689
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 2: Junior Bridgeman would pop out as these like I know

1690
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 2: him more for owning Wendy's.

1691
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports all right, see if I

1692
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: gotta ask you a question here, because again you put

1693
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: the quarter in, Steve Harbin, You'll be regaled of stories of.

1694
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 3: Media long and wide. And I'll tell you what, I

1695
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 3: appreciate all of them.

1696
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 2: I truly do as a bit in a business that

1697
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 2: is rapidly changing.

1698
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 4: Yes, very much so.

1699
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 2: But Steve, just in case somebody just got in the car,

1700
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 2: just now, what subject? Ay, what should we be talking

1701
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 2: about right now?

1702
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 4: All right? Subject?

1703
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 2: Gay?

1704
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 4: And I know I'm speaking to the majority of the

1705
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,799
Speaker 4: listeners out there is always the NFL. That is true,

1706
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 4: Always the NFL. I mean you could you, I mean we.

1707
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,759
Speaker 4: I mean the thing about the NFL is the marketing

1708
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 4: is brilliant. We get ready for free agency. I mean

1709
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 4: think about this. All these deals that we're talking about

1710
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 4: right now, none of them have actually been done yet.

1711
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 4: These are just being floated out there that these are

1712
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 4: deals that are going to get done because the official

1713
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 4: start of the season hasn't come yet, right, So once

1714
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 4: that season comes, then of course, after the free agent

1715
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 4: deals are done, because we're still thinking about I mean,

1716
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 4: when I say NFL, what's the number one subject matter

1717
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 4: when it comes to the NFL quarterback? I mean, people

1718
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 4: could say, gee, I'm really tired of No, you're not.

1719
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 4: You never tied a quarterback. I mean, we still have

1720
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 4: to say, what's going to happen to two? What's going

1721
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 4: to happen to Kyler Murray? Is Kirk Cousins? Who's Minnesota's

1722
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 4: cording about? You know all this kind of stuff all day.

1723
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 4: Let me ask you that about Minnesota because you know

1724
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 4: you're close to the JJ McCarthy situation.

1725
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 3: I did experience the JJ McCarthy and.

1726
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 4: And if you remember, I was a proponent. I thought

1727
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 4: it was a good select. I'm a JJ McCarthy fan

1728
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 4: certainly was a fan of his Michigan because even though

1729
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 4: Jim Harbo runs a run first type offense, every time

1730
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 4: he needed to make throws, as he did in the

1731
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 4: playoff game against Alabama, he made plays. That being said,

1732
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 4: the reports out of Minnesota were not kind last year.

1733
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 4: Forget the fact that he can stay healthy. They literally

1734
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 4: said they had to throw out half their playbook. He

1735
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 4: just wasn't able to execute the plays the offense that

1736
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell wants to run. So I'm asking you, as

1737
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 4: a Michigan loyalist, someone that will always have a special

1738
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 4: place in their heart with JJ McCarthy leading Michigan to

1739
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 4: a perfect season national championship. Do you think the Minnesota

1740
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 4: should stay their ground with JJ McCarthy hope he can

1741
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 4: get a full, healthy season out of this kid, or

1742
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 4: should they aggressively explore the possibility of signing a high

1743
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 4: price free agent to bring in immediately.

1744
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 2: I would not only high price, low price, middle price

1745
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 2: free agent. I don't think J McCarthy has it. I've

1746
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 2: been on this for the longest time. You could ask

1747
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 2: tomorrow when you're in here with VJ, ask him because

1748
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 2: VJ and I used to go.

1749
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 4: VJ is still shamelessly. I mean I have a you know,

1750
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 4: these texts with him. I mean he's still a believer.

1751
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,440
Speaker 4: He's making every courses in the world for JJ McCarthy.

1752
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying I at the time, so you'll remember,

1753
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 2: Jim Harbough and JJ McCarthy were going to the NFL

1754
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 2: at the same time, and the way Jim Harboro was

1755
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 2: talking about him, I said, if you like JJ McCarthy

1756
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 2: so damn much, you should trade for him, trade Johnson

1757
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 2: Herbert and go get the number one overall pick.

1758
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:03,959
Speaker 3: Because the way you're talking about.

1759
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: Him is like he is him, and I, as a

1760
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 2: person who watched ninety eight percent of the collegiate snaps

1761
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: that JJ McCarthy had, I never felt confident when he

1762
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 2: dropped back to pass the ball. I never put him

1763
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 2: in the same class as if Caleb Williams, or a

1764
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 2: Jayden Danis or a Drake May even Michael Pennix at Washington.

1765
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 2: I was shocked when I found out that jaalens they

1766
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,839
Speaker 2: had a bow Nick. I was shocked. I was shocked

1767
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 2: when JJ McCarthy was a first round pick, much less pick,

1768
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 2: not the last quarterback taken in the first round. Okay,

1769
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 2: I didn't think of the So the point is I

1770
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 2: would be getting out of the J. J. McCarthy business

1771
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 2: as soon as humanly possible, because I thought it was

1772
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 2: bad business to begin.

1773
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 4: With, all right, So that is my point. And I

1774
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 4: used to say this about the New England Patriots center

1775
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 4: Belichick and why they were able to sustain success for

1776
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 4: so long. One, they played in a very weak division.

1777
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 4: That helped. But the other part of it was is

1778
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 4: they would cut their law as quick. Whether they were

1779
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 4: a high pick or a high price free agent, it

1780
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 4: didn't matter. They could see instantly it was not well.

1781
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 4: Give him another chance, give him a couple more years.

1782
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 4: That is the road to Loserville. You have to admit

1783
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 4: you made a mistake. And that's where the Minnesota Vikings

1784
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 4: are right now. With JJ McCarthy, I'm with you. The

1785
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 4: thing I like about McCarthy he does walk with swag.

1786
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 4: I mean he carries himself like he is God's gift

1787
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 4: to the quarterbacks. He walks like a quarterback.

1788
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 3: He does. That's the thing with JJ. And you heard

1789
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 3: it all through the draft process.

1790
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,719
Speaker 4: It's like he's got on top of the world.

1791
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 3: Every harries himself like a starting quarterback.

1792
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that as a pejorative or like

1793
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 2: it's it is more used to talk about people who

1794
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 2: people feel they don't carry themselves as a starting quarterback.

1795
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 2: We more look at it in the opposite direction and

1796
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 2: as like Shad or Sanders going through the drafts and

1797
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 2: it gets and it could get weird and get a

1798
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 2: little rachel and get whatever. But it also more often

1799
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 2: than not is like this guy is not paying attention

1800
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:04,480
Speaker 2: to his interviews.

1801
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 3: This guy's not like. This guy seems to be like,

1802
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 3: what what do you mean He's late?

1803
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 2: Like you Normally hear it from the other side, like

1804
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,480
Speaker 2: I would say, another guy who walks like a starting quarterback,

1805
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 2: talks like a starting quarterback, gives you the feeling of

1806
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 2: a starting quarterback.

1807
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 3: And I'm not comparing the games of the two.

1808
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 2: I'm talking about strictly off the field, in front of

1809
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 2: the microphone, in front of the reporters, Fernando Mendoza feels

1810
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 2: like a starting quarterback. Supposed to feel like y right,

1811
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 2: that's what you feel like. It's supposed to look like

1812
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy. It comes from that same cloth of this

1813
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 2: is what it feels like, it's supposed to sound like.

1814
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 2: This is what it's supposed to taste like. You know

1815
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 2: what I mean, That's what that's the thing. But that's

1816
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 2: different than what happens on the field.

1817
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,799
Speaker 4: It's not always one hundred percent right, But I trust

1818
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:50,560
Speaker 4: the eyeball test. I remember I was in San Diego

1819
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 4: when the Chargers are still there and they had a

1820
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 4: preseason game against the Cowboys. It was Dak Prescott's first

1821
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 4: game as a rookie. He's a fourth round pick, right,

1822
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 4: And I said instantly that guy's hat. You could just

1823
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 4: tell he from the first second he walked on the field.

1824
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 4: He felt and looked like I belong. I could see

1825
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 4: it in Dak Prescott and JJ McCarthy gives that vibe.

1826
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 4: But it got to be able to make the throws.

1827
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 4: You can't make the throws, and then he makes bonehead

1828
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 4: throws that are just inexcusable.

1829
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 3: It's just really the reality of.

1830
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 4: It is okay, So what's then?

1831
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 3: All right?

1832
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 4: So you turn the page on JJ McCarthy. You know,

1833
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 4: Sam Darnold had a superstar year two years ago except

1834
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 4: for the last two games, but he had an incredible year. Right,

1835
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 4: So if you look at Kirk Cousins, if you look

1836
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 4: at Kyler Murray, if you look at a tongue of

1837
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 4: Ie Lowe, if you look at I don't know, maybe

1838
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 4: maybe you go back after Daniel Jones. Is it one

1839
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 4: hundred percent? Daniel Jones is gonna return to the Colts.

1840
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 4: He should with Shane Steichen's but I mean, you know,

1841
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 4: I mean he has time with Kevin O'Connell. Maybe we'll

1842
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 4: see what happened. Which direction would you go? Because you

1843
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 4: can't when you have that receiving corps with Jefferson and Addison,

1844
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 4: all these guys hockey, you cannot be twenty ninth in

1845
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 4: the league in passing as they were a year ago.

1846
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 4: That is an absolute crime. So which of those quarterbacks

1847
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 4: do you think is the right fit? Because Minnesota would

1848
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 4: that defense, they get any offense at all, they're right

1849
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 4: back eleven twelve win team.

1850
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 2: Let's be clear, we are shopping at the used car

1851
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 2: a lot. None of these are the right fit, you

1852
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1853
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 4: Not Kirk Cousins, even still, even stause he did play

1854
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 4: well at the end of the year in Atlanta.

1855
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 3: It may be a Mercedes, but it's the uthed Mercedes.

1856
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 4: But it is a guy who had good success in

1857
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 4: this offense, I get it.

1858
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 2: But also so good of success they were willing to

1859
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 2: move off of him, you.

1860
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

1861
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 4: Well, but again I think Atlanta just blindsided him. I

1862
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 4: don't think. I don't think the Vikings really thought there

1863
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 4: was a threat that somebody was going to put that

1864
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 4: kind of money on the table, and then Atlanta drafts

1865
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 4: Panix at the same time. Made no sense.

1866
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 2: Well, you know, all those guys are now sitting on

1867
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 2: the couch like you and me. But when it comes

1868
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 2: to Minnesota, I saw today that Kyler Murray is a

1869
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 2: prohibitive favorite, like in the betting markets to join the team.

1870
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 2: Like if I'm looking for again, none of these guys

1871
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: are the answer, right. If they were the answer, they

1872
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 2: would be where they were, They would stay where they're at,

1873
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 2: right because the teams that have them would keep them

1874
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 2: overwhelmingly so that.

1875
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 3: They felt like that was the case.

1876
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: You're looking for the best, you know, the best piece

1877
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 2: right here, but this is definitely like you're filling in

1878
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,879
Speaker 2: from a different puzzle, trying like you gotta.

1879
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 4: Trust willis no, I mean and Greed. His numbers the

1880
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 4: last two years backing up in Green Bay are off

1881
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 4: the charts.

1882
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 2: But I also think that like I am not of

1883
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 2: the belief about Jordan Love that I'll think is of

1884
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 2: commonly held perception that this Jordan Love is a top

1885
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 2: like the Drive winning I don't.

1886
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 4: I I don't think Jordan Love is in that elite class.

1887
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,719
Speaker 4: And I think he's got Elix picks in his last

1888
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 4: two playoffs.

1889
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 2: He's got elite traits, he's got a rifle for an

1890
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 2: arm he's got, but his footwork is off to me,

1891
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 2: and he seems like and I don't know if this

1892
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 2: is a La Floor thing or a Jordan Love thing.

1893
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 2: That team never can get three yards when they need it.

1894
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 2: It is always it's either we're going to go over

1895
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 2: the top for forty or you know they put there's

1896
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 2: your five yard out.

1897
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 4: There are more interesting division than that NFC North right now,

1898
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 4: So hold.

1899
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 2: On your bounce. We're not too fast, man. I'm trying

1900
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 2: to hang on here because I think this. I think

1901
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, while uh, while flawed, can win you games,

1902
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 2: especially in a scenario in which you are putting that

1903
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 2: great defense behind him. It's got to be built around him,

1904
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 2: but he can win you games. But right now, I

1905
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 2: think if I were ranking quarterbacks, I would like Kyler

1906
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 2: Murray is going to be on the league minimum because

1907
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 2: of the way they did that money. He'd be number

1908
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 2: one with a bullet And I don't know how far

1909
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 2: down the list I get before I get to Gino Smith.

1910
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 2: I truly don't.

1911
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,640
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm glad you mentioned Gino Smith.

1912
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 3: Because that's why I wanted to get because he was

1913
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 3: he was the fall guy.

1914
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 4: Look at hiring Chip Kelly as your offensive coordinator was

1915
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 4: one of the greatest bonehead moves in the history of

1916
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 4: the NFL. Why would you hire Chip Kelly to be

1917
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 4: your offensive coordinator?

1918
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:14,559
Speaker 6: Why?

1919
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 4: Somebody please explain to me why.

1920
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 3: The way had they didn't have the same I you

1921
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 3: did at UCLA. That's that's the problem.

1922
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 4: Holy crap. I mean he goes to Ohio State, who

1923
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 4: can't win with Ohio State's talent, you know, as an offensive.

1924
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 2: The most telling part about it to me, I feel

1925
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 2: like chip Kelly was getting fired, Like chip Kelly was

1926
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 2: not going to stay at Ohio State.

1927
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 3: Do you know what? I think Ohio State was good

1928
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 3: to upgrading. Then they're like, you know what.

1929
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 2: That guy, that guy who just lost a six and

1930
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 2: five Michigan because you wouldn't throw the ball with a

1931
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 2: quarterback drafted the sixth round.

1932
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:45,640
Speaker 3: That guy was back of the highest fake quarterback in

1933
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,640
Speaker 3: the NFL. Coordinator all right, so you so?

1934
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 4: But Gino Smith to me is very serviceable. Still, I agree,

1935
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 4: and I like, if I'm looking at all, what do

1936
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 4: you do in Miami?

1937
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 2: I don't Again, he just got released yesterday, and I'm

1938
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 2: really trying not to just be like, but if the

1939
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 2: Raiders all over him, right, I want to give some

1940
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 2: ownership to what happened, and Gino Smith did ended with

1941
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 2: the Raiders giving fans the middle finger and all tight.

1942
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: It was not pretty, as it often He's not leaving

1943
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 2: the silver room black.

1944
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 3: However, when you're talking about.

1945
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 2: If I'm Miami or if I'm Arizona, if I'm one

1946
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 2: of these teams that is looking for a bridge, well

1947
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 2: I did. I would write back to Geno and say,

1948
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 2: would you like to be my bridge for a solid

1949
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 2: two year deal?

1950
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 9: Even the Jets.

1951
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't want to sell first of all, guys,

1952
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 4: let's eliminate the Jets from any conversation. It doesn't matter

1953
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 4: who they have a quarterback, they're gonna fail. Okay, I

1954
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 4: mean justin fields. Remember the first game of the year, though,

1955
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 4: the showdown against the Steelers. He looked really good in

1956
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:52,679
Speaker 4: that first game.

1957
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 3: Did he not.

1958
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 4: We're like, WHOA, Okay, maybe by the end of the year.

1959
01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 4: Well do somebody ranked the thirty two starting quarterbacks in

1960
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:05,759
Speaker 4: the NFL. Fields was weighted last behind JJ McCarthy, Intruder Sanders.

1961
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 4: That's how bad it was.

1962
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:08,560
Speaker 9: It's rating him too high.

1963
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 2: I'll say, like, I very very rarely ever feel like

1964
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 2: bad for professional athletes, And if I do, it's more like.

1965
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 3: It's really sad that you have that attitude. Right, this

1966
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:20,719
Speaker 3: is a really.

1967
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 2: Sad like I would hate to have have all this

1968
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 2: success in my life and still be worried about this little.

1969
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 3: Person Russell Westbrook.

1970
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 2: But I actually felt sad for Justin Fields last year,

1971
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 2: like some of his press conference postgame, like he was like,

1972
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 2: really it was there was nothing good going.

1973
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 4: On where he came from high school superstar in the

1974
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 4: state of Georgia, goes to Georgia and then weird, you know.

1975
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 4: I still was never fully explained something happened where he

1976
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 4: was able to transfer at that time. It was before

1977
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 4: the transfer portal to Ohio State without having to sit

1978
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 4: out a year. Then he has all that success. His

1979
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 4: last game at Ohio State was just off the charts.

1980
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 4: It was off the track.

1981
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 2: If I texted an NFL scout at the time, just

1982
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 2: now moved up further into to the the front office.

1983
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 2: I texted him at the time, so what am I

1984
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 2: missing because I'm looking at Trevor Lawrence, I'm looking at

1985
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 2: Justin Fields. Are you sure that the blond haired kid

1986
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 2: is the better one? And he texted me back and

1987
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:23,520
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm not sure. I'm lucky. He's like, legitimately

1988
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 2: watched that game again. He legitimately said, I'm happy. I

1989
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,719
Speaker 2: don't I'm happy we're not having to make this decision,

1990
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 2: Like you know that the team that he was on

1991
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 2: at the time was not having to make the decision

1992
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 2: between Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence. That's how like good

1993
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 2: at Ohio State, Justin Fields was What.

1994
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 9: Are you saying that, like he got failed by teams

1995
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 9: in the NFL, that's.

1996
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 4: I mean, the Bears have been a graveyard for quarterbacks.

1997
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 4: I mean he's gotten to a lot of graveyards for quarterbacks.

1998
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 4: And then the whole dynamic with him and Russell Wilson

1999
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh that was bizarre, to say the least.

2000
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 3: That was.

2001
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 2: I put it like this, it feels to me that

2002
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 2: Justin Fields is a guy I'm not I'm not putting

2003
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 2: all of it on situation. However, could he be a

2004
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 2: Sam Donald? That's like, not today, not today, not now.

2005
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 2: It's been too many times.

2006
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:11,759
Speaker 4: But like when Sara Darna was sitting on the bench

2007
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl with San Francisco, would you ever

2008
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 4: have dreamt that he would be hoisting as the starting

2009
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 4: quarterback the Lambardi Trophy.

2010
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 2: The only reason why I would say I would have

2011
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 2: seen Sam Donald as a viable NFL starter is because

2012
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 2: of the way Kyle Shanahan was talking about him throughout

2013
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 2: that year because I don't think Kyle Shanahan was just

2014
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 2: I mean, because there's the thing. Everybody laughed at it

2015
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 2: when he said it. But when Shannah had said why

2016
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 2: can't this guy be like Steve Young, I don't think

2017
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 2: that's something that he says very lightly. And he said

2018
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 2: that before the start of the season, right, so I'm like,

2019
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 2: what are we talking about him?

2020
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 4: It was a golden opportunity to do exactly what Sam

2021
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 4: Darnald did. He cleared his head after the nightmare with

2022
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 4: the Jets, after the nightmare in Carolina. He got a

2023
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 4: year to just sort of not have to worry about

2024
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 4: anything and be a on a winning organization. See see

2025
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 4: how not the Jets, You're not the pants, you know,

2026
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 4: like how an actual winning organization operates. And took it

2027
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 4: from there.

2028
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 2: If you had told me, like, instead of going to

2029
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 2: the Jets, Justin Fields was going to Minnesota, right, instead

2030
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 2: of making that Jets, he was going to Kevin O'Connell

2031
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 2: or Kyle, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, one of those type

2032
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 2: of guys, I would have said, I think that guy can.

2033
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 2: I would have said, I think that guy can have

2034
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 2: success in this league. But honestly, you know what, I'm

2035
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 2: interested in seeing you know what. I'll save that for

2036
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 2: a moment. And Producer Ian, I'll probably need you on

2037
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 2: this one because you're the combine addict here. But uh,

2038
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 2: this one guy played a ton of college football and

2039
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 2: set I won't say set records.

2040
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just set records. I know this.

2041
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, my eyes popped after looking at some of those

2042
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 2: combine numbers. Are we underestimating a potential quarterback that could

2043
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:56,799
Speaker 2: be a difference maker in the NFL next season.

2044
01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 3: We'll discuss next. Coming to you live from the Fox

2045
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 3: Sports Radio studios.

2046
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm Martin Weis joined here with Steve Hartman Monsey Belanos

2047
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 2: with today off. Get to Steve de Seger in about

2048
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 2: five minutes and he'll give it to the update on

2049
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,560
Speaker 2: everything going on around the world of sports. Two of

2050
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 2: the NBA's best teams, one of them losing today the

2051
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 2: other one and a tight matchup right now late in

2052
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 2: the third quarter against the team that is I will say,

2053
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 2: not one of the best teams in the NBA. But

2054
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 2: Steve wanted to ask you this cause I sit at

2055
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 2: that update desk and I have now for the last

2056
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 2: two years on Saturdays, as you know. And I watched

2057
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 2: a lot of college football as a result, and I

2058
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't if I wasn't, but I've seen a lot of

2059
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:44,640
Speaker 2: Tailor Green play. Now I saw his combine numbers, and

2060
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 2: I think Ian's got him, and I know Ian is

2061
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 2: the combined guru here.

2062
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 3: Mister Jets X factor, don't pick up Taylor Greens. You

2063
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 3: might ruin him.

2064
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 2: But like, I think this guy would be like a

2065
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 2: third fourth thrown pick that could when I'm looking at

2066
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 2: this class, could be made, could have.

2067
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 3: A pretty big impact in the NFL.

2068
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 6: No.

2069
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 10: Well, if you want his numbers, yeah, forty yard dash

2070
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 10: he ran a four to three six uh And actually

2071
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 10: I should have started with this the fact that he

2072
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 10: is six foot six, two hundred and twenty seven pounds.

2073
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 4: Okay, slow down, guys, slow down, it's six six too tall.

2074
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 3: Okay, did you cross the Asweiler line? All right?

2075
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 4: So Taylor Green is one of those guys again that

2076
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 4: shows up at a combine at sixty six, two hundred

2077
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 4: and thirty five pounds runs a sub four four four

2078
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 4: forty and everyone goes gaga.

2079
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 10: Well, you say one of those guys. He's the first

2080
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 10: quarterback to do that run run a sub four four for.

2081
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 3: You those guys, can you down that side? All right?

2082
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 4: Can you remember highlights from his college career?

2083
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 3: No?

2084
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 4: I actually Okay, So this guy he was at he

2085
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 4: was at Nowaseast State, and he was at Arkansas. So

2086
01:38:56,120 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 4: last year at Arkansas he completed sixty point seven percent

2087
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 4: of his passes, nineteen touchdowns, eleven picks. In fact, that

2088
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 4: Wortty much was all four years, two years starting in

2089
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 4: a Boise two at Arkansas, he had the same level

2090
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:16,639
Speaker 4: of mediocre. There's no increase honestly in his numbers from

2091
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 4: his first year as a starter at Boise to his

2092
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 4: last year as a starter at Arkansas. So you asked

2093
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 4: to ask yourself, why is that? I mean, if this

2094
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 4: guy has all these physical gifts, how is it that

2095
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 4: from a performance level he has stalled? Now, there are exceptions.

2096
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 4: If you look at Josh Allen's numbers at Wyoming, there

2097
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 4: was no indication that Josh Allen would translate into that

2098
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 4: kind of quarterback in the NFL.

2099
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 6: Zero.

2100
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 4: But he was a physical specimen like you know, bet Roethlisberger,

2101
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 4: big type guy.

2102
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 3: Like a guy who's six six and runs a.

2103
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 4: Brian Diabel Brian Dabel did a masterful job or transform him.

2104
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 1: So.

2105
01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 4: But you know, we have a quarterback in Indianapolis that

2106
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:02,560
Speaker 4: also had numbers off the charts.

2107
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 3: For combine, but we're not.

2108
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 9: No one's taking him top five.

2109
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 3: Taking Taylor Green with the fourth overall.

2110
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know. Somebody's gonna fall in a very,

2111
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:14,640
Speaker 4: very slim field for quarterbacks. Look, I would say this

2112
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 4: about Taylor Green. Is he worth a shot? I'll tell

2113
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 4: you what. If I'm sitting there in the fourth round,

2114
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 4: let me ask you, who would you take if both

2115
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,639
Speaker 4: these guys are on the board. Would you take Taylor

2116
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 4: Green or would you take Carson.

2117
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 3: Beck Taylor Green?

2118
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 9: I think I think I'd probably take back.

2119
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 3: I would take Taylor Green. Think about it.

2120
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I'm not wild about Carson. But

2121
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:45,240
Speaker 4: think about this about Beck. Before last year, when he

2122
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 4: was at Georgia, he was already being projected as a

2123
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 4: top ten pick in the NFL. Now he's like a

2124
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 4: Day three guy, right or late, you know, the third

2125
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 4: fourth rounder. And by the way, he goes to Miami,

2126
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 4: leads him to the Nation Championship Game. Guy wins a

2127
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 4: lot of games. So I don't know the thing about

2128
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 4: a guy like Taylor Green is he shows up the combine,

2129
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 4: blows everybody away with his numbers, and then you have

2130
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 4: to go back and watch why why?

2131
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:18,640
Speaker 3: Why?

2132
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:22,680
Speaker 4: Why is his four years as a starting quarterback to

2133
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 4: a boys in Arkansas are almost identical? Like he never

2134
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:30,440
Speaker 4: there's no progress in his game, nothing.

2135
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 2: His athleticism to me, jumped off the screen. I was

2136
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:36,680
Speaker 2: watching them play. To me, it felt like and again.

2137
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 4: Until why isn't that translating into success on it?

2138
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 2: Maybe it is translated, he says, the kid it's sliding

2139
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 2: to be a third round pick.

2140
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 3: And he didn't win anything, almost swore didn't win anything

2141
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 3: in college.

2142
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 4: Why didn't he win anything in college?

2143
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 3: Because he went to Arkansas in Boise State.

2144
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 4: Boise State was in the playoff a couple of years ago.

2145
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 4: You mean he went to Boise State like they're nothing.

2146
01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 4: He had asking genty when he was at Boise State.

2147
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:02,640
Speaker 2: And I took Ashton Genty the season that we have

2148
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 2: never seen from a college running back for that team

2149
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 2: to make the play.

2150
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 4: Okay, So Taylor Green.

2151
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 2: Let's kick it to Steve Aega first hold the other

2152
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 2: Steve's turn. All right, Mary, let's kick it over Steve

2153
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:15,799
Speaker 2: you Seger.

2154
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 7: I hear the music, all right, Steve TMUSA A second, no, no,

2155
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 7: this will continue. Team USA was down one nothing to

2156
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 7: Great Britain in the fifth inning in Houston at the

2157
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 7: World Baseball Classic. This game on Fox TV right now.

2158
01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 7: The Americans now lead eight to one in the bottom

2159
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 7: of the seventh. Kyle Schwarber with a long home run.

2160
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 7: Is there any of the kind with him? Detroit pitcher

2161
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 7: Trek Skooble, in his one start in this tourney, allowed

2162
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 7: a home run on the first pitch, then three scoreless innings,

2163
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:50,960
Speaker 7: five strikeouts, no walks. Japan early this morning beat South

2164
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 7: Korea eight to six. Puerto Rico tonight with two and

2165
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 7: the tenth defeated Panama four to three. Venezuela down to

2166
01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 7: Israel eleven to three, two homers for Luis. In the NBA,

2167
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 7: Brooklyn was trailing at Detroit by seventeen points early in

2168
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 7: the fourth quarter, nets one at one oh seven, one

2169
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 7: oh five. Atlanta won at six straight game beating Philadelphia

2170
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 7: won twenty five one, sixteen thirty five points for Jalen Johnson.

2171
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 7: The Clippers have fallen behind by one at Memphis It's

2172
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 7: Grizzlies with under two minutes left. Grizzlies won eighteen one

2173
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:24,799
Speaker 7: seventeen over the Clippers, who do have twenty six points

2174
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 7: in twenty six minutes from Kawhi Leonard. Milwaukee has beaten

2175
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 7: Utah and at Oklahoma City to the fourth quarter thunder

2176
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:36,679
Speaker 7: ahead of Golden State eighty six eighty three. In college hoops,

2177
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 7: number one, Duke beats seventeenth rank North Carolina seventy six

2178
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 7: seventy one. Carolina freshman Caleb Wilson is out for the

2179
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 7: year after thumb surgery. Marquette upset number four Yukon sixty

2180
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 7: eight sixty two. Wisconsin won at Purdue Louisville one at

2181
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 7: Miami number twenty. Arkansas won in overtime at Missouri. Currently,

2182
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 7: Alabama leads rival Auburn eighty three sixteen with about five

2183
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 7: and a half minutes to go. In women's hoops, victories

2184
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 7: in Conference semis for UCLA and Iowa in the Big Ten,

2185
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 7: and in the SEC South, Carolina beat LSU again, Texas

2186
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 7: over old miss NHL Buffalo won at six straight Tampa

2187
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 7: Bay and Boston with victories. The forty nine Ers gave

2188
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:21,720
Speaker 7: kicker Eddie Pinero a four year contract. The Chargers re

2189
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 7: signed linebacker Khalil Mack. Green Bay acquired linebacker Zaire Franklin

2190
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 7: from the Colts, who were one of the teams still

2191
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:31,759
Speaker 7: above the salary cap to start the weekend. The league's

2192
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,800
Speaker 7: free agency period begins on Wednesday, teams have to be

2193
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:37,639
Speaker 7: under the cap by then. The Eagles gave defensive tackle

2194
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 7: Jordan Davis a three year extension. Joey Logano or in

2195
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 7: the poll for Sunday's NASCAR race in Phoenix. Joseph Neugarden

2196
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 7: won the Indy Car event there in Phoenix. US women's

2197
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 7: soccer scored late to win one nothing against Columbia in

2198
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 7: New Jersey, taking the annual She Believes Tournament, going three

2199
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 7: to zero. In the past week, and news that the

2200
01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 7: New England Revolutions home opener for their MLSC and was postponed.

2201
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 7: It was due to be today, but after the historic

2202
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 7: winter weather in the Northeast, the harvesting and delivery of

2203
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 7: that stadium's new natural grass field was delayed. We're talking

2204
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 7: about Gillette Stadium, Foxboro, Massachusetts, so instead the opponent for

2205
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:17,320
Speaker 7: next weekend.

2206
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 3: Will be the home opener.

2207
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 7: I Meanwhile, New York City's MLS team plays at Yankee

2208
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 7: Stadium and they won five nothing against Orlando today.

2209
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 3: Back to you, Hey, you know a good grass guy, Steve.

2210
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 2: They made a good grass guy apparently if you got

2211
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:35,599
Speaker 2: if you got the plug on Bermuda, you know you can.

2212
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 7: Get you can get it taken care for him a

2213
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:41,599
Speaker 7: major league soccer. This is why there's artificial turf in

2214
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 7: those types of environments.

2215
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 4: You know, it's emilio when we talk about artificial turf

2216
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:51,640
Speaker 4: nowadays of supposed to what they originally termed as artificial.

2217
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 7: It was very artificial originally.

2218
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is a true story. My first year

2219
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:57,720
Speaker 4: working for the Raiders, we opened the season at the

2220
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 4: Astrodome against the Oilers. It was Warren Moon's NFL debut

2221
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 4: having come down from Canada.

2222
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 7: So before the game, I'm walking on the stadium floor

2223
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 7: which was also used for baseball.

2224
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:13,680
Speaker 4: Right, guys, I'm not This is exactly the turf that

2225
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 4: they had. It was basically like a pool table cloth

2226
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 4: directly on cement. Yes, there was no cushion. It was

2227
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:26,759
Speaker 4: cement hard. It was just like a pool table cloth

2228
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 4: on cement.

2229
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:31,679
Speaker 7: And eventually there was a preseason game after the teams

2230
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,200
Speaker 7: arrived that was canceled because the field the Chargers.

2231
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:36,360
Speaker 4: It was Bobby Ross was in the Chargers, so we

2232
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 4: got not playing on this, No way, no way.

2233
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 2: I like how the artificial surface is like so bad

2234
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 2: most of the time you hear about this, Like that's

2235
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:47,759
Speaker 2: why the Steelers got the f in the Yeah player

2236
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 2: report cards, because they play every game under the sun

2237
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 2: as many games as they can't, Like they had the

2238
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 2: high school games and then played at Kyla's game. By Sunday,

2239
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:01,480
Speaker 2: there's been sixteen quarters of games played between.

2240
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:04,120
Speaker 3: The two Friday and Saturday, and the field is trash.

2241
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,720
Speaker 7: San Francisco not a good place for years when it

2242
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:08,760
Speaker 7: was Candlestick Park, and they would have to put a

2243
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 7: new strip of grass down from goal line to goal

2244
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:14,200
Speaker 7: line down the middle in an attempt that was awful.

2245
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 7: San Diego, actually, as great a city that is for weather,

2246
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,759
Speaker 7: had some horrible football fields as the stadium was located

2247
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 7: right next to the San Diego River.

2248
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 4: Exactly, I mean they you know, I just I mean

2249
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 4: not to.

2250
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 7: Paint the field green by the late season.

2251
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 2: So I can imagine that the lack of precipitation probably

2252
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 2: impacted them.

2253
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 4: But it's amazing, you know, back in then, I you know,

2254
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 4: I do this because well I was around.

2255
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 3: That's why.

2256
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 4: I mean, when I like, receivers.

2257
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 3: With these gloves You're in the Hall of Fame. How

2258
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:50,640
Speaker 3: do you drop a ball with those gloves on?

2259
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 4: How do you realize how sticky those gloves are? It's

2260
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 4: almost impossible if the ball is thrown to you to

2261
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 4: What I watched was receivers go with those gloves on

2262
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 4: and the ball goes right to their hands.

2263
01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 3: Get off the field. What else? Get off the field? Else?

2264
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:12,800
Speaker 2: Steve just really wrinkles up nineteen eighty five, Steve, Like,

2265
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 2: what else do you see that happens?

2266
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 7: It reminds me of when Jay Leno used to make

2267
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 7: his guest appearances on David Letterman. It's like, you know what,

2268
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 7: boys you Jay? And then he would get into a rant.

2269
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:23,680
Speaker 7: It would be a great bit every time I can

2270
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 7: out you should be doing this with Steve Harbin.

2271
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to right now, I'm just like, what

2272
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 3: is it now?

2273
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 8: Like?

2274
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 3: What is it like?

2275
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:33,640
Speaker 2: If you were to list the top three things and

2276
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 2: professional sports of twenty twenty six.

2277
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 3: That drive you up a wall? What would they be?

2278
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 8: Oh?

2279
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 4: Load Management's number one? I mean, I mean, let's remember this.

2280
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 4: In Michael Jordan's final season as a forty year old

2281
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 4: fat guy with the Washington Wizards. He played all eighty

2282
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 4: two games. He played all eighty two games. I remember

2283
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 4: when load management the first is a load.

2284
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 7: Of you know what horrendous that they schedule still the

2285
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 7: back to back nights for NBA teams and they will

2286
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:10,720
Speaker 7: work it out. So that quote, there's a fill in

2287
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:14,559
Speaker 7: the blank injury that causes him to be questionable for Sunday,

2288
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 7: but he'll probably play Monday.

2289
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 4: You know me games first, you know me games. John

2290
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 4: Stockton missed in his nineteen year NBA CRI. I'm going

2291
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:23,680
Speaker 4: to look this up right now. I have to be

2292
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 4: accurate with this to answer. So he missed one year,

2293
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 4: he missed four fifteen total. Okay, so this is there's

2294
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:34,120
Speaker 4: eighty two games in the season. Ready for this, I'm

2295
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 4: gonna read this off real quickly. Here played nineteen years

2296
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 4: all with the Utah Jazz. He played eighty two, eighty two,

2297
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:44,599
Speaker 4: eighty two, eighty two, eighty two, eighty two, seventy eight,

2298
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:46,280
Speaker 4: eighty two, eighty two.

2299
01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 3: Eighty two, eighty two, eighty two, eighty two.

2300
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:52,719
Speaker 4: Eighty two, sixty four, fifty when it was a fifty

2301
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 4: game season, eighty two, eighty two, eighty two, eighty two.

2302
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:59,600
Speaker 4: That's how many games that Stockton played in his nineteen years.

2303
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 3: So I might have there.

2304
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:05,240
Speaker 4: Was only two years where even missed a game. So

2305
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:11,799
Speaker 4: in seventeen of the nineteen years he played every single game.

2306
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 7: Remember, Lakers starter Ac Green played about a thousand games

2307
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:15,759
Speaker 7: in a row.

2308
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 4: So load management is a load of you know what,

2309
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 4: it's embarrassed.

2310
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:21,799
Speaker 7: You're an entertainment product NBA.

2311
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:24,680
Speaker 4: But I will all say this, This idea of you

2312
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 4: have to play a minimum number of games to qualify

2313
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 4: for NBON, well that's a crop because number two. Well,

2314
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:36,720
Speaker 4: here's the point is that if you're legitimately hurt, like

2315
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 4: you know, you've got Jokics right now, who has been hurt.

2316
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a load management guy.

2317
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,679
Speaker 4: He had an injury, but if he misses like one

2318
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:49,760
Speaker 4: more game, he will be not eligible. He's on pace

2319
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 4: to be the first player ever to lead the league

2320
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:53,720
Speaker 4: in rebounding and assists in the same season, but he

2321
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 4: wouldn't be eligible for all NBA. He wouldn't be eligible

2322
01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:59,720
Speaker 4: for MVP. See that's ridiculous.

2323
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 7: Well, they're saying that if you average such and such

2324
01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:05,799
Speaker 7: in eighty games, it's more impressive than averaging that in sixty.

2325
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 4: The problem is you have the worst commissioner in sports,

2326
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:08,719
Speaker 4: Adam Silver.

2327
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:09,920
Speaker 3: This guy has.

2328
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 2: What's second I do have? I do not mind it

2329
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 2: for the MVP. I think it's terrible for first team

2330
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:22,559
Speaker 2: all NBA. I think the MVP should have some level

2331
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:23,600
Speaker 2: of participation.

2332
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 4: All right. Bill Walton in nineteen seventy eight played it

2333
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,280
Speaker 4: on only fifty eight out of eighty two games. There

2334
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 4: was no argument that he was the most valuable player

2335
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 4: in the NBA that year because of what he did

2336
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 4: with the Portland Trailblazers, so he wouldn't even have been

2337
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:37,719
Speaker 4: eligible for the award. And by the way, in those days,

2338
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 4: the players actually picked the MVP all the way up

2339
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 4: until nineteen eighty. It wasn't the media, it was the players.

2340
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:48,679
Speaker 4: First twenty five years of the award, the players voted

2341
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 4: for the league's MVP.

2342
01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:53,760
Speaker 3: All right, Steve was number three up again.

2343
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:56,719
Speaker 7: They still charge full prices for NFL preseason games.

2344
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 4: Oh place that I mean, that's ridiculous.

2345
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,440
Speaker 7: That's the biggest scammons.

2346
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:05,759
Speaker 4: It has been forever. By the way, when I again

2347
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 4: I revert back to my raider is. One of my

2348
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 4: many jobs was to be the the announcer inside the

2349
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:13,639
Speaker 4: press box.

2350
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,839
Speaker 7: Oh, yes, so you know the media, the media.

2351
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 3: For the Raiders.

2352
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 4: And so we were playing a preseason game and I

2353
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:26,559
Speaker 4: I'm sitting next to locusl and I said, welcome to

2354
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 4: our exhibition game today.

2355
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:29,679
Speaker 3: That's pre season.

2356
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:35,440
Speaker 4: You can hear yelling at me, don't say exhibition preseason.

2357
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 4: I go, what's the difference? It means nothing, Nothing means nothing.

2358
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 7: Oh, it's a full price game.

2359
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 3: This is no exhibition that I'm trying to think my

2360
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 3: I think my biggest.

2361
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:51,800
Speaker 2: The qualls with catches have always been I mean, that's catcher,

2362
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 2: not a catch in the NFL if you see it live.

2363
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:58,639
Speaker 3: I have never argued in the backyard whether somebody called

2364
01:52:58,680 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 3: it or not. You know what I mean is that

2365
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:02,479
Speaker 3: we should be able to.

2366
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:04,759
Speaker 7: Figure out you can't slow it down like the replay.

2367
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:06,799
Speaker 2: And that's why I think we did. We could abolish

2368
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 2: instant replay like I would be.

2369
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 4: Faked dead at one time.

2370
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely fine, if there was no such thing as instant replay.

2371
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:18,559
Speaker 7: In all sports. It's needed because we've seen the alternative.

2372
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:20,000
Speaker 4: I realize, especially when it could have won a Rose

2373
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:23,320
Speaker 4: Bowl if there had been replayed. Back to Charles White

2374
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 4: went over the top clearly fumbled before he got to

2375
01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:26,800
Speaker 4: the goal line.

2376
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 3: Touchdown?

2377
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 4: Touchdown true dead's.

2378
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 2: And you know to your point, See, this may be

2379
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:35,679
Speaker 2: just the ignorance of babes respectively and not having seen

2380
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 2: it before, but it's gone so freaking far. I'm watching

2381
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 2: the Clippers Spurs last night, and the Clippers are in

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Speaker 2: the midst of just melting down a loss.

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Speaker 3: If the referees would just let them do it, they

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01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 3: gotta look at everything, they gotta review everything. Did eastap

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01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:52,600
Speaker 3: by the bounds? Is his shoe one tied? Is the

2386
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 3: person in the front road did they pay four price

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01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 3: of that beer?

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01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 7: Because the last ten seconds can take ten minutes?

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01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 4: All right, while we're at it, let's eliminate umpires one

2390
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 4: hundred percent. You don't need umpires in baseball. You have

2391
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,800
Speaker 4: fouls in basketball, you have penalties in football. In baseball,

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01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 4: it's balls, strike, safe, out, fair, foul. All can be

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01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 4: done electronically. You do not need umpires on the field.

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01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 7: You need the equivalent of a chair umpire, like tennis, though,

2395
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 7: which got rid of their court umpires.

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01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:23,200
Speaker 4: For what everything's done electronically.

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01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 3: What happens if the algorithm goes wrong?

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01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:29,240
Speaker 2: Steve all of a sudden, they start calling things in

2399
01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:30,240
Speaker 2: this out out that's in.

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Speaker 4: Somebody's got to be It's amazing. I mean, you watch

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01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 4: a tennis match and they're they're firing one hundred and

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01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 4: thirty mile an hour serves and they go to the

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01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 4: replay and it hit. It hits the line by by

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01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 4: a hair, right.

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01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:43,040
Speaker 7: It's like the replace.

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01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 4: We're getting questions it no whatever, questions, Okay, there it is.

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01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 4: It hit the line, didn't hit the line the animation.

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01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:52,400
Speaker 4: So why would there be any argument about a strike zone,

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01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 4: an actual real strike zone in baseball calling balls and

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01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:59,840
Speaker 4: strikes standing behind the catcher. You realize originally they called

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01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:03,120
Speaker 4: and strikes with the umpire standing behind the pitcher, which

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01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 4: actually makes a little more sense behind the catcher, right Like,

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01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:10,400
Speaker 4: because we're watching the game on TV, we watch from

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01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 4: behind the.

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01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:12,839
Speaker 7: Pitcher centerfield caid, that's what we're.

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01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 4: Watching, right How can you tell standing behind a catcher

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01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:20,040
Speaker 4: when the ball actually fired one hundred miles an hour

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01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 4: acrosses the front of home plate.

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01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 2: I'll say this, I don't know, but I like the

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01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:26,440
Speaker 2: fact that they're there because you know what, I like,

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01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 2: I'm here for a little human error in my sports.

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01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:31,280
Speaker 4: Well, you're getting plenty of it.

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01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 7: There gets to be too much, like the nineteen eighty

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01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 7: five World Series, which the Cardinals could not close out

2425
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 7: in Game six because of an egregious call at first base.

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01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes it can't be too much. But coming on next,

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01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 2: Steve hold on, Yeah.

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01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:44,760
Speaker 7: You've hit a good segment. By the way, this is

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01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 7: going to be repeated at some point, I know he's

2430
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 7: not your co host here at eight eastern, but nonetheless

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01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 7: I'll just call in.

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01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:53,879
Speaker 2: Yes, I have I have a I have an opinion

2433
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 2: that I think may somebody raised from in football at

2434
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 2: the foot of Val Davis may hear it and be like,

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01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:01,959
Speaker 2: as you would.

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01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 4: Do, Look this guy that he was talking about, you

2437
01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 4: could have been.

2438
01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 2: That was my It was me trying to do Steve's

2439
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 2: out Davis impression. But uh, coming up next, we'll get

2440
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 2: to an inflammatory NFL opinion held by yours, truly influenced

2441
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 2: by some of the news of today. Martin wife, Steve Hartman,

2442
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Martin wife, Steve Hartman. Keeping the seats

2443
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 2: worm for Erintoris and Jason Martin. They will be up

2444
01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 2: shortly top of the hour, Steve de Seger. We'll keep

2445
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:35,040
Speaker 2: them close. This Oklahoma City Golden State Game. Uh interesting,

2446
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 2: is okay See leads by six?

2447
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 3: Now do you still.

2448
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:39,560
Speaker 4: Believe in Okase or do you think San Antono?

2449
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 3: Which? Which?

2450
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 4: Which? Were are you going?

2451
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 2: If I had to pick between those two teams, I'm

2452
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,520
Speaker 2: picking the Spurs at this point, even though.

2453
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:48,680
Speaker 4: I am today, Well, they've matched up well with okay See.

2454
01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 4: I don't do you. I mean, I feel like Okayse's

2455
01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 4: almost like sleepwalking through the regular season.

2456
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:56,520
Speaker 3: That may be the case, but Steve, I could ask

2457
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 3: you something.

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01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 2: Yes, the Dallas Cowboys today place to a second round

2459
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:06,320
Speaker 2: for strict and free agent tender on Brandon Aubrey, who

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01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:10,080
Speaker 2: they want to pay him apparently around seven million dollars

2461
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:13,440
Speaker 2: a year. Brandon Aubrey reportedly wants about ten million dollars

2462
01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 2: a year. May you tell you right now, Steve Hartman,

2463
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:23,160
Speaker 2: I would pay Brandon Aubrey. I would sign him up

2464
01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 2: right now at he is thirty years old. I'd offer

2465
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:35,640
Speaker 2: Brandon Aubrey a six year, sixty million dollar contract with

2466
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 2: twenty five guaranteed up front, and then you ran round

2467
01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 2: out the rest of it, so then by maybe the

2468
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 2: maybe the last year is over. But I would give

2469
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:47,720
Speaker 2: him the ten million dollars a year. He's looking for

2470
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:49,000
Speaker 2: average annual value, all.

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01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 4: Right, So you can make an argument that he's the

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01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 4: best kicker in the league.

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01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:53,760
Speaker 3: That's the argument that I would make.

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01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 4: How much better is he than any other kicker in

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01:57:58,160 --> 01:57:58,680
Speaker 4: the league.

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01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 2: I think that it is outside of potentially the kid

2477
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, Cam Little, who.

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01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 4: Well, he has a diffence more than anything else.

2479
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying, Like, if I'm looking around

2480
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 2: the league right now, this is the first guy I'm

2481
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 2: looking to kick me a game winning field.

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01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 4: Goal kickers are like golfers. You know, some sustain it

2483
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:21,280
Speaker 4: forever throughout their entire careers. Then all of a sudden,

2484
01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 4: there are those that suddenly lose their swing.

2485
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:28,440
Speaker 2: Sure, and a lot of times you'll see and it

2486
01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:30,400
Speaker 2: can happen just like that, and a lot of times

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01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 2: I think it comes with added pressure. Right, you have

2488
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 2: a guy who's an amazing kicker in college, then he

2489
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:38,320
Speaker 2: becomes a second round pick, and all of a sudden,

2490
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 2: you can't make kicks.

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01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 3: Brandon Aubrey to me just feels different.

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01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't know why, Like I am generally with you,

2493
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:48,960
Speaker 2: but I've watched this guy win so many games, or

2494
01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:52,160
Speaker 2: I say win so many games, impact, so many games

2495
01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:55,120
Speaker 2: for the Cowboys. With the new kickoff rules, where they

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01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 2: are you get a first down and a half, you

2497
01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:00,960
Speaker 2: are in Brandon Auber's range. I would ten million dollars

2498
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 2: for Brandon Aubrey is not I am not blinking twice

2499
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 2: at that number.

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01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:05,760
Speaker 3: I'm really not think about this.

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01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 4: Last year he scored one hundred and fifty five points,

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01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:10,640
Speaker 4: which is an insane number for a kicker. Right inside

2503
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:14,640
Speaker 4: fifty yards. He was twenty five for twenty five. But

2504
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:17,360
Speaker 4: what was amazing from fifty plus. He was eleven for

2505
01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:21,320
Speaker 4: seventeen from fifty plus. And that's what I'm saying, Steve,

2506
01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 4: Like that is not he did miss one extra.

2507
01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:26,839
Speaker 3: Point, but oh goodness, oh God called the children.

2508
01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:30,680
Speaker 4: But how about this, how about in his career he's

2509
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 4: thirty five of forty four from fifty plus.

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01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Steve, the guy is a monster. This is

2511
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 2: not the end all be all when it comes down

2512
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:40,840
Speaker 2: to it. But like, and I know, this is a

2513
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 2: silly way to view this type of thing. Brandon Aubrey

2514
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:45,640
Speaker 2: was a guy. I paid almost the most for it

2515
01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:48,800
Speaker 2: my fantasy football auction because I know at.

2516
01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:50,760
Speaker 4: The end of it, that's where this this guy's going no.

2517
01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:54,800
Speaker 2: Because Steve No, He's gonna hit multiple fifty yarders of game.

2518
01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:56,760
Speaker 4: See if you just run off you look at they

2519
01:59:57,400 --> 01:59:59,840
Speaker 4: just they just look at the salary caps up for

2520
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:03,040
Speaker 4: three hundred million dollars right now. Can you afford to

2521
02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 4: pay the best kicker in the league ten million? Yeah?

2522
02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:08,880
Speaker 4: He probably could, absolutely and it would be not a probably.

2523
02:00:08,920 --> 02:00:10,840
Speaker 4: The Cowboys they have no defense.

2524
02:00:11,560 --> 02:00:13,520
Speaker 2: That's why you better score points. He had one hundred

2525
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:15,720
Speaker 2: and fifty five out of the kicker last year. I

2526
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:17,839
Speaker 2: mean serious, in the final game at Detroit.

2527
02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:20,360
Speaker 4: He know during December he had a game where he

2528
02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:22,760
Speaker 4: had five field goals, three over fifty plus. They lost

2529
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:23,480
Speaker 4: forty four to thirty.

2530
02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:26,120
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Defense, But do you want to

2531
02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 3: get rid of that guy? That guy kept you in

2532
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:29,120
Speaker 3: the game. Maybe.

2533
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:30,960
Speaker 4: I mean I'll just say, I just love the fact

2534
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:33,400
Speaker 4: you're ending the show talking about an NFL kicker.

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02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:36,080
Speaker 3: I'm paying the money. I'm paying the money.