WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Defcon 5? 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:06.600 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:14.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is the 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:19.919 Player's Lane, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:26.520 the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny mccraig, heckm Harrison, 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:34.879 and Knew He scrugs, players loud. Let's ride. We're back, right, 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:39.800 We're back, baby, Danny is good to see you. Know 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:43.000 how you doing, man, I missed you yesterday. Man, hey man, 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:45.960 we was yesterday. We was rolling in to sixty percent. 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.280 I got perfect contenders. Man, you wasn't even here. Hey man. 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:54.080 We doll half faith in the whole time, half faith 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.920 in need the whole time. Good to see brother, It 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:06.760 is good to see you. Look up, you look fresh. 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.200 I don't even say how much. How much the one 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:16.600 real right, that's not right. Put the water in my hand. 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:25.560 I'm Danny mc craze. I'm I'm a sugar freak. Yesterday 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:29.720 he was ready for you to what I was ready. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:39.560 You seen the sweat coming over. We just started looking 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:50.000 at the corner of his eye. You boy got me 0:01:50.120 --> 0:02:01.360 like Pookie good good, Danny McCrae, Harrison, Jerky Church, I 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.680 new he scrubs in a minute. Since we've done this, 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:07.360 good to know that nothing has really changed around. When 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:12.760 a man is feeling half down, right, I just show 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.440 to kick your right back. Then. That's the pet of 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:21.720 these negros. They want you to stay there, y'all here 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:23.960 to kick people that. Let's start off with Kelvin Joseph 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:30.720 your man, he wentucky when talking about bad my man after, 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:37.160 I mean, everybody went somewhere after yea, sir, where you learn? 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.600 Where do you learn these techniques? You learn? You learned 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.560 them from the hardened streets of bad rules. See Pedro 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:46.080 Peterson out there, all right, that's you learned good stuff. 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.679 Lure with grant deal. But I seen them hit the 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:53.840 other day, following Jamal Adams out there. Do I need 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.959 the list? Damal Clark, I mean, and the list goes on, 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.000 Jabriel Cars, just a lot of Joseph. They all they 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:07.440 always Matthew, they all came through. Okay, so he didn't 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.680 have the last as long as others, but he came through. 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:13.320 He didn't last. Um so well, now, I mean hopefully 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.079 maybe maybe he can remember something from them. Lsu days 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.799 is he's gonna be out here, man, He's gonna be 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.280 out here, and I just want to know what's your 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.880 concern level. You know, mine's death can five with Kelvin 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.440 Joseph out there, gave a touchdown pass against the Colts. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.880 And if you're gonna try and you know, win this thing, 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.280 you know you got the Eagles wide outs. I mean 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.120 last night I was thinking, Hey, ain't nothing to do 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.080 to go down and go down to Tampa band play 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.560 a game like Kelvin Joseph against them? Why? I mean, 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:44.840 I'm a death cart five. Heck me, where are you 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:46.880 at right now with Kelvin Joseph? Man, I look, I've 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.480 got an opportunity to watch the film again, and it's 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.520 not like the guys is just you know, getting burnt, 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:56.600 burnt burnt. He's there. Hopefully this week they could bring 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.040 him up to speed and getting better. I think yesterday 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.200 we talk more about the run Bland making a move 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.680 outside and that's yet to be seen also, So I mean, 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.520 I think they have options. Um. I do believe that 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.360 he he has a short lease. I don't believe that 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:14.680 they are going to be patient with him because the 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.400 murmurs are already out there for him and his his 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:22.000 performance and man, you this is a second round draft pick. Yeah, 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:26.279 that has been playing predominantly special teams, and I don't 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:30.320 think that the Cowboys drafted him to play special teams. 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.560 So at some point, man, the proof is gonna have 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.040 to be in the put and they're gonna give him 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.000 an opportunity to sink a swim. I know I'm throwing 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.160 these metaphors out pretty quick, but it is, it is 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.720 what it is. I mean. So either he's gonna do it, 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:58.520 he's not. That's another one cliche. Good, but that's it 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:05.960 now out of five, I mean, I'm I'm more at 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.960 the four. I'm in four. I'm not in five though, Okay, 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.000 three and a half, three and a half, I'm three 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:14.120 and a half. You know what I'm saying because what 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:18.200 I know is, you know is my man, dan Quinn 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:21.480 is the guy who's gonna be getting this man prepared 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.440 for for a full rest of like the rest of 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.080 the season. They're looking at him as being the guy. 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.360 So you're gonna get a little extra attention, not that 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:31.839 not that attention to where hey, man, if somebody goes out, 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.360 then you may get you know, a quarter or a 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.760 half here. Now he's getting that full starter attention. He's 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:39.840 going to be in that film room and on that 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.479 getting that extra time every day of the week, every 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.560 play that they scheme up for Scout team, it's going 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.440 in Kelvin Joseph, all right, because they know once he 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.040 gets on the field, the quarterback is looking away from 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.599 Treyvon Diggs and they're gonna be putting all their attention 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.120 on Kelvin Joseph. So he's gonna get a lot of 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.240 opportunities during the week to what he can do, if 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.160 he can do it or if he can't. And I 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.600 think that man is gonna step up enough for it 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.880 not to be a situation where you gotta go sell 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.880 your house to find another cornerback, because that's the weakness 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.120 of the team and what may keep us away from 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.400 getting two bolts. I'm three out, I'm three and a half. Yeah, 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:20.960 I'm gonna give him a little little optimism, you know. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.200 And if not the drum playing I see you, baby, 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.080 I see you, you know' about there be gonna slide out. 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.360 And I'm gonna heck on this one. I'm about a four. 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:32.080 I'm about a four because every time we've seen you know, 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.400 boss Man Fat aka Kelvin Joseph out there on the field. 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:37.800 I'm not gonna say it's been great. You know, you 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.159 go all the way back to the preseason, that Denver game, 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.000 you know him and No Nation Sean Right, We're getting 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.960 picked on left and right. Josh Johnson was throwing dimes 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:47.680 on him. Then you fast forward it to the Coach 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.040 game and we're talking about a guy. You know, I 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:51.760 think he was on a fifth or six round pick 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.040 out of Cincinnati. The wide receiver I forget his name, 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.240 number fourteen was out there that really nobody knew who 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.760 he was. He went out there in mossying for a touchdown. 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.800 So I'm to four because I'm not at the five 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.640 because of what you said, Mac. He's gonna end up 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.480 getting coached by you know, Dan Quinn, Joe Wich, Junior, 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.960 Al Harris. You know, hopefully they can get this guy right, 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.320 but it's ultimately gonna be on him. It's gonna be 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.240 on him to put that extra work in. You know, 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.920 he can't be that guy that shows up, comes in here, 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.119 goes through the motions and when it's done, when practice 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:19.440 is done, that's the last thing I'm gonna look at 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.520 it as far as football is concerned. He's got to 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.400 put that extra work in to be great because this 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.240 team they got their their poise for it. Defensively, they're 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.880 poised for it. You got a great defensive line, great 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.440 front seven, that will make your job that much easier 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.680 on the back end. So if he all comes up 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:35.560 to him, if he's gonna take it serious and want 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:37.560 to be that guy and take advantage of his opportunity, 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:39.240 then I feel like he can't be able to do that. 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:40.560 But if he wants to go in here and just 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.840 live off his athleticism thinking he can just out athlete everybody, 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.120 that's not how it's gonna work. Everybody in the NFL 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.480 is good. So I'm out of four right now. Hopefully 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.680 he can take it serious. But we'll see, man, and 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.600 we'll see. I hope he played the dudes of to 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:58.400 Kentucky University. Don't be likely, don't be like church man. Hey, Hey, 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.280 do your university problem? Man, Go out here, watch the 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.640 extra film. Make sure that Kentucky is proud of the 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:06.680 product that you put out there on the field. All right, 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.480 shout out to you, Kelvin Joseph. I will not be 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.120 calling you boss man, Fats. But what you think you 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.960 think they can't switch up the entire defense because you 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.120 can't you can't. You can't hide that. You can't hide 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.320 the corner in the national football They're gonna find a 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.640 way to get at you. So he better play off techniques. 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:25.480 That's why, that's why I'm got me nervous. Bail off 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.920 cover two. You can hide enough and hopefully you're you know, 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.280 now you gotta tell Mike, hey man, we need we 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.079 need a little extra from you. You gotta tell the 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:35.439 law we need a little extra from you. The ball 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.280 has to come out quick because the more time that 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.280 the quarterback has, that's more time for him to take 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.440 advantage of a guy like Kelvin Joseph out on the outside. Now, 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.319 could we all be wrong? Like Church says, can we 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.839 all be wrong? Go out there and realize that this 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.400 is this is a chance, because I can't imagine the 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:54.839 pressure on the guy who you say, this defense is great, 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.200 got two weaknesses. Sometimes the ring game and then one 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:02.040 person on the defense possibly holds you back from everything 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:03.800 that you set out to get At the beginning of 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.000 the season. The pressure on the guys enormous. Hopefully he 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.000 can step up and prove us all wrong. Right now, 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.839 I'm still there. The pressure was already on Anthony Brown. 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:13.640 Think about the way the teams were scheming for the 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.840 Cowboys to begin with. They already knew that the pressure 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:18.719 was going to be on from the pass rush. Look 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:20.800 at where we ranked numbers wise with the pass rush, 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.560 turnovers and all of that. Anthony Brown too. I mean, 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.480 I'm not making a statement here. He was the weak 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:31.760 link in the secondary and offenses were finding that. So yeah, 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.880 Kevin Joseph gonna get Look, he gonna get heat. So 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.839 I expect, like you said, Dan Quinn, out our hairs, 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.280 all these guys to start to if they scheme him up, 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.320 bring a safety over the top, give him some help. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.959 But if he can take advantage, seize this opportunity, I 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.320 think it bowls well for the front office because they 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.160 have done nothing but talk positively about him, and so 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.800 it's hard that I'd be hard pressed that, you know, 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:57.840 Will McClay and all the guys that they bought into 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.679 this point half material lines to be something, you know, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:11.360 So here's a chance. Taco. When I was saying with 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:22.880 Taco Tuesday, Taco, that was Nelly Mary Nelli that was 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:25.680 that was not Will Will Okay, I was just saying, 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.439 I looking at it. He quickly, he read it. He 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.120 read it out. I was looking at one Thorn went 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.199 on to help Kansas City. I've been out for a 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.160 long time. Bro. I love will Bro. I wanted time. 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.120 I'm talking about Mary Nelly. Were just talking about guys 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.240 who came here and didn't pan out, and Taco is 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.360 one of them. He missed. One day we were talking, 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.400 will Bill came around the corner. I guess I said 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:47.839 something he like and he came back into glass. Yeah. Man, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.839 because then you had a problem with it was the 0:10:51.040 --> 0:11:00.040 who you had a problem with, China baby coach. I 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.400 don't got to be bringing his own luggage now, Louis. 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:07.960 I ain't mad, probably I know that. If anything, I'm disappointed, Okay, 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.199 I'm disappointed. Three action to people. Oh I thought you 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:20.800 said a place where the weight room wasn't where it 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.880 was just food wasn't where it was. Mean Dan, this 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:26.920 this summer right, the weight room is supposed to be done. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.199 Weight room's not done. Dan takes one hundred and fifty 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.800 thousand of his own salary. He says, take this from me. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.360 Get this weight room done, because I told the kids 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:39.880 when they came back it would be done. People don't 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.679 talk about that people. I mean, the man left it 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:47.240 ten times better than it was. Oh yeah, definitely. To 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.280 see so many people go after him, I mean, it's 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:54.520 just to me, it's disappointing because you're sitting here, you saying, 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:58.920 I give you my best, took it better to where 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.360 it's been in the last fifty years. I leave you 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.719 guys kicked me right righting the yenang. I have a 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.480 problem with that. That's that's all. People, though you know 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.840 you can't do enough. You can't do enough for some folks. 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.520 Stay here forever, Dion, for the rest of your life. 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.080 Stay here and just make sure you said Jackson State, 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.959 don't do nothing else, no goals, aspirations that you have 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.600 is more important than what we won't hear of Jackson State. 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.000 What nobody paying attics in the Jackson State. All these 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.559 people are here speaking out, didn't give two damns about 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.200 Jackson State. Didn't get it. But he told sixty minutes 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:34.120 he wouldn't go be there forever. Dion interview for the 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:38.719 TCU shot the Sunny Dike Scotton the interview so it 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:43.160 was clear if the opportunity came, he was going. Now, 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.439 you guys don't know because you all played, all three 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:49.520 of you played college football. The kind of money assistant 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.640 coaches get at the Power five level what they're getting 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.520 over at the HBC. So while people look at Dean 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.400 and what he was making, the guys who were his assistants, 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:03.280 they weren't getting that. Saying Brett and fighting the administration 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:04.760 the way he was fighting the ministration, you get to 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.679 a point in time where, man, you get tired of 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.400 doing that, and there's just a lot of things behind 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.920 the scenes. If folks don't know what's going on. If 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.079 the man had to not only coach, but then you 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.679 had to deal with the other stuff within your own administration, 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:22.120 it's a battle. And he took a good opportunity. Isn't 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.880 that what everybody else does in life? I said, I 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.160 just I don't understand it, man, And it really doesn't 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.959 make me sad when I I got some folks on 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.719 the inside on this, and I'm just sad when I 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.880 think about, man, just what I know, what he helped 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.600 do and what he left, He left it better than 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.920 he found it. Isn't that Isn't that the goal all 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:46.400 the time. But let me let me just say this, man, 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:50.760 what I'm disappointed. Is is people making uh Dian Sanders 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:55.240 the coach Sanders the poster child for coaches leaving programs, 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.559 because that's that's just what it's been, you know, that 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:02.079 really has been. How many times have a class of 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.040 guys gone to a school and all of a sudden 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.360 the coach found a better job most of the time, 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:10.040 that's what's that's what's happening, period. And I know, and 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.440 I was talking to to Nate who went to Famuth, 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:16.319 Nick Newton went to fam You And when I was 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.679 getting recruited out of high school, my mom made me 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:22.520 save my final visit because you only had five visits, 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.480 and she made me save my final visit for Grammling. 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:33.320 Now I went to Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Utah, Yeah, whatever, 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:39.280 those schools, right, those facilities were maculate. I go to Grammling. 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.320 I went to kick it. You know, I only have 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.200 a good time, you know, but there's no way at 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.480 the end of the day. But when you have a 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.680 school like Jackson State, and and let's not be clear 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.040 when you talk about the coaching disparity and guys going 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.320 from the lower seeds schools, they get an opportunity to 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.960 go up to Power five. Those coaches at the at 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:04.840 the swacking HBCUs are not getting that opportunity. So what's 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:08.440 happening with Don is really something special when you see 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.800 a guy going from the level that he's going to 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.920 to now coaching at a power five. So that's the story. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:19.240 Why aren't HBCU coaches getting an opportunity the same one 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.240 that Don is getting. Guys that have been coaching at 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:25.560 these universities forever getting better opportunities with power fives. So 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.080 trying to make him the postal shaling And we have 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:33.160 this thing where it's called keep it real, and sometimes 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.800 keep it real is keep it wrong. And the people 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.920 that have these overarching opinions about what Don has done. Man, 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:41.840 look if I gave you opportunity to go from three 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:50.640 hundred thousand dollars to five million dollars, man, ain't no 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.480 way I can tell my wife baby, look, I'm gonna 0:15:52.680 --> 0:16:00.160 stay here. Keep it really you can't live here. Well, 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.320 that's one of the things about who d He likes 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.360 the challenge. You know, Jackson State was a challenge and 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.720 he went down there, they won the swack twice. What 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.840 else was there left to do? What else was that 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.200 I mean, you get college game day down there. They 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.000 never went to an HBCU on the cover of Sports 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:22.320 Illustrated m the program by far, the facilities better than 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.720 what it was used. His sponsors, used his connections and 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:30.320 made Jackson State a better place. The guy doesn't need money. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:33.880 This isn't one of those gidon needs. I mean, obviously 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.440 you're going the opportunity to take it, but the assistant 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:41.200 coaches now get more money, um, the ability to I 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:42.720 don't know if you saw any of the video. The 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.040 video followed Dan as he started to see the facilities 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:50.960 at Colorado. They're in Candyl right, canny Land, and you know, 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.000 basically some of those kids are gonna go. You know, 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.480 who do make the transfer from Jackson State to go 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.280 to Colorado? Man, they go. They be a candy Land 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.480 up in it. But it's a challenge, and some people like, 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.160 why would you go to Colorado? White? You know, Dean 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.680 is a guy who likes challenges, and he felt that 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.480 this is the challenge that I want and if he 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.719 can win there, great. Now some people saying, well, he's 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.600 just gonna use him like Meil Tucker and go here 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:17.760 to there. Now I get the skepticism, but amongst the skepticism, 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:19.680 can we at least give the man credit for what 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.200 he did? I mean, the man went and made it better. 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.080 The man went and got kids championships, that he helped 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:30.840 guys get degrees and put some kids. And this is 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:32.480 the other kind of story. I talked to John Taylor, 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.480 who who's been kind of on their biographers down there. 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:37.679 He said when he talked to one of the coaches 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:39.800 that some of these a bunch of these kids would 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:43.159 not be affected by Prime leaving because their stories and 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.359 some of the circumstances they have come through have been 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.720 that bad that a dude deciding to go coach somewhere 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:50.200 else is not going to be the end of the world. 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.240 Because they can count five to ten different things in 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:53.919 their life. They've been a heck of a lot more 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.080 traumatic and a heck of a lot tougher that they 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.480 went through, but they got him there, Jackson, stay in 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:02.920 game an opportunity to find something better for themselves, and 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.239 that that part of it gets lost as well as 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.320 people are trying to beat up Dan and not you know, 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.879 maybe having an opportunity to check in with some of 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:11.879 these kids. So I'm looking forward to the story the 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.440 jockey is working on on just you know what some 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:18.160 of these kids have have their experienced while they're there, 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.120 and I just it's to me, it's sad, man. 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