1
00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,320
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of The Doug Gottlieb

2
00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,960
Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday

3
00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,440
Speaker 1: three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

4
00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,039
Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at

5
00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,280
Speaker 1: boxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day

6
00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,720
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR Booming up America

7
00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:31,320
Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fuck Sports Radio. I hope you're having

8
00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,880
Speaker 1: a great day. The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every

9
00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:43,800
Speaker 1: single day. In this case, we're in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Man, beautiful, hot, summy,

10
00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:49,400
Speaker 1: sunny Southern days meet sunny summer day. I said, Southern

11
00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,640
Speaker 1: sunurd day. Let's get right after it. Okay, So, by

12
00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,400
Speaker 1: now you heard the story Tyrese Haliburt. It explains a

13
00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,880
Speaker 1: lot of it. Right. You're like, man, how does a

14
00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:11,000
Speaker 1: dude that's so good? B? So, what's the term mid? Right?

15
00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,960
Speaker 1: That's the kids say, it was so mid last night.

16
00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,120
Speaker 1: The only thing you can think of is he's injured.

17
00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,280
Speaker 1: And look, they were a prohibitive underdog going into last night.

18
00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,760
Speaker 1: Last night the thunder one that thunder covered. They were

19
00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:31,000
Speaker 1: a prohibitive underdog going into the series and again winning

20
00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,880
Speaker 1: game one. I think many people. Dan Byer was one

21
00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,920
Speaker 1: of those people, was like, I was, you know when

22
00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,680
Speaker 1: the when the Heat beat the Thunder, the Thunder went

23
00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,120
Speaker 1: won game one and then it was a gentleman sweep

24
00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,920
Speaker 1: in five games. But it's when they won game three

25
00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,080
Speaker 1: that Okay, now you have my attention. Now we have

26
00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,760
Speaker 1: the series. Their inability to capitalize on a late lead

27
00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,840
Speaker 1: in Game four ends up now becoming game five. In

28
00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,920
Speaker 1: game five, it does feel over despite the fact that

29
00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,400
Speaker 1: the Pacers, you know, they gotta win two games as

30
00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:08,200
Speaker 1: opposed to Oklahoma City only has to win one. Uh,

31
00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,840
Speaker 1: but it's hard to go, Hey, where do you pick

32
00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,840
Speaker 1: and what do you say? Here's Mark Dagno, who's who's

33
00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,120
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Thunder, talking about the team

34
00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,359
Speaker 1: playing in front of their home fans.

35
00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,639
Speaker 2: I think the crowd puts the win at our back.

36
00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,360
Speaker 2: I'm always I always marvel at how enthusiastic and positive

37
00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,399
Speaker 2: they remain in the ebbs and flows of a game

38
00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,440
Speaker 2: or of a season. You know, they're always trying to

39
00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:32,880
Speaker 2: put the win at our back. They're always trying to

40
00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,200
Speaker 2: lift the team up, and I just think that's a

41
00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,040
Speaker 2: great spirit. That's on display in all these games, but

42
00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,400
Speaker 2: they were amazing tonight.

43
00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:45,200
Speaker 1: Obviously, fans don't win games. Teams win games, but the

44
00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,200
Speaker 1: fans can definitely help you. We'll get We'll circle back

45
00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,560
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma City a second. Here's Rick Carlisle talk about

46
00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,480
Speaker 1: Halliburton's injury.

47
00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,000
Speaker 3: He's not one hundred percent, it's pretty clear. But I

48
00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,480
Speaker 3: don't think he's gonna miss the next game. And you know,

49
00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,240
Speaker 3: we were concerned at halftime, and uh, he insisted I'm playing,

50
00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,120
Speaker 3: And I thought, I thought he made a lot of

51
00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,640
Speaker 3: really good things happened in the second half.

52
00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,000
Speaker 1: But he's he's not.

53
00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:12,760
Speaker 4: He's not one hundred.

54
00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,600
Speaker 3: Percent, you know, and there's a lot of guys in

55
00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,440
Speaker 3: the series that aren't.

56
00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,720
Speaker 1: Here's Haliburton talking about his calf jury.

57
00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,919
Speaker 5: I mean, c NBA Finals, it's the finals, man. I've

58
00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,959
Speaker 5: worked my whole life to be here, and I want

59
00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,520
Speaker 5: to be out there to compete, you know, help my

60
00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,840
Speaker 5: teammates anyway I can. You know, I was not great

61
00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,000
Speaker 5: tonight by any means, but uh, you know, it's not

62
00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,680
Speaker 5: really a thought of mine to to not play here.

63
00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,520
Speaker 5: You know, if I fucking uh, you know, walk, then

64
00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,720
Speaker 5: then I want to play. So you know they understand that,

65
00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,600
Speaker 5: and uh, you know is what it is, and uh

66
00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,119
Speaker 5: you know, I gotta be ready to go for Game six.

67
00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's a bunch of different ways we could

68
00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,000
Speaker 1: go with it. Uh I. I do believe the Thunders

69
00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,440
Speaker 1: defense was outstanding. I also think that the under whether

70
00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,120
Speaker 1: it's home crowd, the where they play, they shorten their

71
00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,680
Speaker 1: bench as well, but they get away with being really

72
00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,760
Speaker 1: really physical, physical defensively. And I know he didn't shoot

73
00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,760
Speaker 1: the ball well last night, but Caruso just has been

74
00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,960
Speaker 1: so important for what they do. But anytime you get

75
00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,000
Speaker 1: forty points from your second best scorer and your leading

76
00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,760
Speaker 1: scorers got thirty. I don't track it, but I would

77
00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,160
Speaker 1: guess that that's like a ninety five to ninety eight

78
00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,480
Speaker 1: percent of the time. You get seventy combined with good

79
00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,760
Speaker 1: shooting percentages from two dudes, you're gonna win more games.

80
00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:41,680
Speaker 1: Then you lose. The secret sauce is their defense. Some

81
00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,800
Speaker 1: of the energy to that secret sauce is the crowd

82
00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,680
Speaker 1: support is the officials reaction to that crowd support is

83
00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,560
Speaker 1: the way they play. I don't think the Pacers played

84
00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,800
Speaker 1: tentative in any way. If anything, a team that plays

85
00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,159
Speaker 1: fast does have a tendency to get sped up. But

86
00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,080
Speaker 1: they could never really get a handle on the Thunder

87
00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,680
Speaker 1: last night, and that game was never within really reach

88
00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,480
Speaker 1: of them. In the second hand, there's never a h

89
00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,880
Speaker 1: but here they go. It was a lot more like

90
00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,120
Speaker 1: what Game one would have been like had the Thunder

91
00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,520
Speaker 1: done the right things to close the door at the end.

92
00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,000
Speaker 1: Which brings us around. And this is why seven games,

93
00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,960
Speaker 1: even though it's long and it's spread out and it

94
00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,800
Speaker 1: can be hard to pay attention for those of us

95
00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,800
Speaker 1: with that sports add that we want answers to who's

96
00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:35,800
Speaker 1: the champion? Now, now, now, now now. Ultimately, partially with

97
00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,960
Speaker 1: the help of an injury to Halliburton, but mostly because

98
00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,000
Speaker 1: they're just better, the Thunder are gonna win the series,

99
00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,520
Speaker 1: which is why it's a seven game series. If there's

100
00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,120
Speaker 1: a one game series that's an unbelievable comeback and unbelievable

101
00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,440
Speaker 1: win and the pacer of your champion, it's not and

102
00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,760
Speaker 1: generally not always the better team wins or the healthier

103
00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,800
Speaker 1: team wins, and this case, the better healthier team will win.

104
00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,200
Speaker 1: They will win. Now, I will say this about this

105
00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,760
Speaker 1: is a weird one with Oklahoma City. Weird from this standpoint,

106
00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,480
Speaker 1: that on some level it's bad for the NBA because

107
00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:22,840
Speaker 1: small markets don't have big ratings and the thunder are

108
00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,760
Speaker 1: good and they're going to be good. Are they going

109
00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,880
Speaker 1: to be a champion ten times over? I don't know.

110
00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how they react to what's going to

111
00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,960
Speaker 1: be a late summer of celebration Oklahoma. Right, everybody can say, hey, look,

112
00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm based upon talent, but you can lose yourself when

113
00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,400
Speaker 1: you're the toast of an absolute state, not just town,

114
00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,680
Speaker 1: a state and you got like a month to go celebrate,

115
00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,080
Speaker 1: or maybe two months to go celebrate. But they're going

116
00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,200
Speaker 1: to be good for a while. And if you're going

117
00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,359
Speaker 1: to be good for a while and you're a small

118
00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,600
Speaker 1: market and you don't have huge names and shake gill

119
00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,320
Speaker 1: Z Alexander is an outstanding basketball player, I don't think

120
00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:10,480
Speaker 1: he'll ever be some amazing corporate superstar the likes of

121
00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,040
Speaker 1: which we've seen even from a Damian Lillard, who he's

122
00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,600
Speaker 1: a much better player than Damian Lillard. Okay, but Damian

123
00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:23,520
Speaker 1: Lillard because of Oakland, because he can rap, because he

124
00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:28,200
Speaker 1: just he has a really cool personal story with Weaver State.

125
00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,320
Speaker 1: It feels like Damian Lillard has kind of broken through,

126
00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,680
Speaker 1: even though his game is not as good as Shay's game.

127
00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:43,160
Speaker 1: But if you don't have a superstar, if you don't

128
00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,360
Speaker 1: have a Durant, you don't have a Westbrook, you don't

129
00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,320
Speaker 1: have somebody who will be a rating straw, and you

130
00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,360
Speaker 1: have a really good team, it's going to be a

131
00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,960
Speaker 1: bit of a problem for the NBA. Not a huge

132
00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,120
Speaker 1: problem because people are still watching, but the overall ratings

133
00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,280
Speaker 1: when they're in big games won't be great. That's said.

134
00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,080
Speaker 1: I do think it's great from the NBA are all

135
00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,000
Speaker 1: professional sports, because here's a market that when they first

136
00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,720
Speaker 1: got there, it wasn't big enough. It shouldn't have been

137
00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,680
Speaker 1: able to support an NBA team. The only reason they

138
00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,440
Speaker 1: ever got a team was because of Hurricane Katrina. Right,

139
00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,520
Speaker 1: they had Hurricane Katrina. So they got the Pelicans for

140
00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,200
Speaker 1: two years. And they only got the Pelicans for two

141
00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,560
Speaker 1: years because you had a bunch of local businessmen who

142
00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,800
Speaker 1: are like, hey, we don't care if we lose money,

143
00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,520
Speaker 1: we just want our city to be recognized as as

144
00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:34,120
Speaker 1: a as a major league city. So they get the

145
00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,400
Speaker 1: they get the then Hornets make it work. Hornets go back,

146
00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,600
Speaker 1: and Horns didn't want to go back. They were kind

147
00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,880
Speaker 1: of forced to go back, like it's New Orleans. You

148
00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,720
Speaker 1: can't lose the team. Clay Bennett goes and buys the Sonics,

149
00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,160
Speaker 1: They move the Sonics, and the rest, as they say,

150
00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,480
Speaker 1: is history. They got an unbelievable GM who's been able

151
00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,480
Speaker 1: to sustain, for the most part, successful teams year after

152
00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,920
Speaker 1: year after year. But the home court advantage, the crowd

153
00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,640
Speaker 1: showing up, which that's what it was like in Oklahoma

154
00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,480
Speaker 1: State when I played, That's what it's like in Oklahoma

155
00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,439
Speaker 1: and football. It's the combination of those two, which by

156
00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,319
Speaker 1: the way, has hurt both of those crowds oh U

157
00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,360
Speaker 1: football and OSU basketball. But they're more like collegiate fans.

158
00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,439
Speaker 1: They show up at the airport, win or lose. They

159
00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,480
Speaker 1: cheer for you when you're down twenty. They don't walk

160
00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,560
Speaker 1: out right. They wear team colors like their school colors.

161
00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,520
Speaker 1: It's a completely different vibe. And we've seen this in

162
00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,520
Speaker 1: the NBA before. Sacramento has had it, a couple other

163
00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:34,000
Speaker 1: small market teams have had it. But the uniqueness of

164
00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,840
Speaker 1: this story, a city that was that small when they

165
00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,960
Speaker 1: got the team, a team that trade away star players

166
00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,080
Speaker 1: who weren't going to be there anymore, and used it

167
00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,200
Speaker 1: to get draft picks and traded for Shay Gildsess Alexander

168
00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,880
Speaker 1: and he became an MVP. All these things are an

169
00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,559
Speaker 1: unbelievab unique story, which is a great thing. Not as

170
00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,120
Speaker 1: many people will hear it or watch it because of

171
00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,440
Speaker 1: the size of the market. Buyer, Do you think there's

172
00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:57,679
Speaker 1: any way this series isn't over?

173
00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,680
Speaker 6: No, Well, I think it'll go game I think the

174
00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,720
Speaker 6: Pacers can win Game six. So I'm gonna say Indiana

175
00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,520
Speaker 6: holds serve on Thursday, with or without Haliburton. I'll just

176
00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,640
Speaker 6: if and Sham's reported that he's gonna have an MRI

177
00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,600
Speaker 6: here just to determine the severity of the injury. But

178
00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,640
Speaker 6: I'll say the Pacers end up winning Game six and

179
00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,120
Speaker 6: we have a Game seven. What I do think is

180
00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:29,600
Speaker 6: interesting about the Oklahoma City thing is it's small market,

181
00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,000
Speaker 6: but I also think that it's the one team market.

182
00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,680
Speaker 6: And if you go back to the Blazers of the seventies,

183
00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,559
Speaker 6: which I wasn't around, but that's Rip City and that's

184
00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:40,679
Speaker 6: where Rip City.

185
00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:41,920
Speaker 4: Ended up originating.

186
00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,000
Speaker 6: I remember the Jazz and their run obviously with Stockton

187
00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,440
Speaker 6: Malone in the nineties. Sure what it was like to

188
00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,720
Speaker 6: play in Salt Lake. In dealing with that, San Antonio

189
00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,400
Speaker 6: had a great team, no doubt about it. Like that

190
00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,679
Speaker 6: that really helps when you're playing those things. But I

191
00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,600
Speaker 6: also think that there is just something so unique about

192
00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:06,600
Speaker 6: the one team market, and I think that's what makes it,

193
00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,760
Speaker 6: in my mind cool for Oklahoma City because it's not

194
00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,920
Speaker 6: like they're ever going to get an NFL team, right,

195
00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,840
Speaker 6: You're not going to have one in Oklahoma City. So

196
00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,480
Speaker 6: that's kind of their baby in that way, and I

197
00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,240
Speaker 6: find that pretty cool. But we've seen it throughout NBA

198
00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,679
Speaker 6: history and now this time around it's turning into Oklahoma City.

199
00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's case. Do you had something?

200
00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:30,600
Speaker 7: I got a question?

201
00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a question that needs an answer.

202
00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,720
Speaker 1: And the answer is if only.

203
00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,080
Speaker 8: There was someone with the authority and the wisdom to

204
00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,120
Speaker 8: give us that answer.

205
00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:43,040
Speaker 1: No, I'm the head coach.

206
00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,000
Speaker 6: I get to set the schedule.

207
00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,240
Speaker 8: Hold on, let's ask the coach.

208
00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,240
Speaker 7: So you have a you have a player saying that

209
00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,600
Speaker 7: he wants to play, he really wants to play, he's

210
00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:58,600
Speaker 7: obviously compromised. Sham says that it's a CAF strain severity TBD.

211
00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,280
Speaker 7: Then you have a head coach who says that the

212
00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,560
Speaker 7: player insisted on being on the court. If you're a

213
00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,280
Speaker 7: Pacers fan, wouldn't you want your head coach to be

214
00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,920
Speaker 7: more discerning than that? If he's hurting the team, why

215
00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,560
Speaker 7: not tap into somebody who's one.

216
00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,320
Speaker 1: Again, I don't know the severity, I don't know the

217
00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,520
Speaker 1: pain threshold. I don't know what a shot will do.

218
00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,520
Speaker 1: There's so much I don't know. It's really really unfair.

219
00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:32,839
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Dan.

220
00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:38,000
Speaker 6: Here's what I think is interesting is if this was Lebron, like,

221
00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,760
Speaker 6: they're not pulling him. But this adds to the Halliburton

222
00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,200
Speaker 6: debate on who is he? What is he? Is he overrated?

223
00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,360
Speaker 6: Is he not overrated? Is he a superstar? Is he

224
00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:53,760
Speaker 6: not a superstar? And I think Jason's question really kind

225
00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,680
Speaker 6: of straddles that line and the decision on Rick Carlile.

226
00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:02,040
Speaker 6: Like Carlisle obviously is tree him like he's Lebron James,

227
00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,720
Speaker 6: and that no matter what happens, unless your entire body

228
00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,480
Speaker 6: cramps up, you're going to be out on the floor.

229
00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:12,040
Speaker 6: But to Jason's point, maybe they're better without Tyrese Haliburton.

230
00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,120
Speaker 6: I think that adds to the intrigue on this debate

231
00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,200
Speaker 6: and if there's anything we're going to take from these finals.

232
00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,760
Speaker 6: Maybe that's it that Tyreese Halliburton now is just a

233
00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,200
Speaker 6: normal part of our conversation when we debate the NBA

234
00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,680
Speaker 6: for whatever, you know, variety of reasons.

235
00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,560
Speaker 1: I think all that's fair. Again, I just if you

236
00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,960
Speaker 1: don't know the severity of it. My guess is he's

237
00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,880
Speaker 1: got a he's got a partially torn calf, right, Like,

238
00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,400
Speaker 1: that's a reasonable guess. If it's fully torn, then he

239
00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,679
Speaker 1: won't be able to play. There's nothing you can do.

240
00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,439
Speaker 1: It's very likely to be partially torn, like a sprain.

241
00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,360
Speaker 1: For people to understand, a sprain is actually a tear. Okay,

242
00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,959
Speaker 1: it's actually tear. It's the degrees of sprain are the

243
00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:02,600
Speaker 1: severity of the tear. So we have no idea. But

244
00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,000
Speaker 1: to your point, Jay Stu and your point Dan, is

245
00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,839
Speaker 1: they hampered Tyrese Haliburton. If he can't guard, if he

246
00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,840
Speaker 1: can't move, if he can't get a shot off, or whatever, like,

247
00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,480
Speaker 1: you're better off having somebody. And that's what happened with

248
00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,720
Speaker 1: the Lakers when Magic started at center for them and

249
00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,360
Speaker 1: they won NBA title. They had Kareem who ended up

250
00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,400
Speaker 1: becoming later on his career the NBA's all time leading score,

251
00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,600
Speaker 1: but they were better off without him because he was

252
00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:30,440
Speaker 1: too injured to play.

253
00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:35,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, and my my question is more about allowing the

254
00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,840
Speaker 7: player to dictate if they play or not. I mean

255
00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,400
Speaker 7: Carlisle actually said he insisted on being out there. Isn't

256
00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,080
Speaker 7: that don't you want your head, coach? And I'm not

257
00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,080
Speaker 7: even talking about game six. I'm talking about what we

258
00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,400
Speaker 7: saw last night. He was obviously compromised, right.

259
00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:56,800
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's a really hard one. And I don't

260
00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,880
Speaker 1: think Haliburton is Lebron or is Jim Miller is Michael Jordan.

261
00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,040
Speaker 1: But generally the player is his own best doctor, and

262
00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,640
Speaker 1: you give guys that carte blancheve coach. I don't take

263
00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,000
Speaker 1: me out. But then at some point, now that we've

264
00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,000
Speaker 1: seen how he's played, when he's compromised, now Rick Carlock

265
00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,400
Speaker 1: can go like, look, I love you, I know you

266
00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,760
Speaker 1: want to be out there, but we just we gotta

267
00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:19,560
Speaker 1: play somebody else.

268
00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,440
Speaker 4: It's tricky because he's the head of the snake, right.

269
00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:31,560
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, not easy? Uh not easy. This

270
00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,920
Speaker 1: is the Doug Gottlieb Show. You're on Fox Sports Radio.

271
00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,360
Speaker 1: For over forty years, Tyrek has been helping customers find

272
00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,880
Speaker 1: the right tires for how what where they drive ship

273
00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,640
Speaker 1: past and freeback by free road as a protection with

274
00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,880
Speaker 1: comedian insulation options like mobile tire installation tyre dot com

275
00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,480
Speaker 1: the way tire buying should be. It's down time for

276
00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,560
Speaker 1: our tyreq play of the day here on the Thunder

277
00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:49,440
Speaker 1: Radio Network.

278
00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,920
Speaker 9: Slashing left away from demark down the laye high off

279
00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,400
Speaker 9: the windows set home a high ar.

280
00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:55,520
Speaker 10: Can your right hand lay up?

281
00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:56,640
Speaker 1: Thunder one ten?

282
00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,600
Speaker 4: The pace was ninety seven? Is this some team something?

283
00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,040
Speaker 1: Head through the cold?

284
00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:06,680
Speaker 9: Game five Jalen Williams Massive for thirty seven. The Oklahoma

285
00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,600
Speaker 9: City Thunder one win away from their first ever NBA championship.

286
00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,040
Speaker 4: For the first time in the finals.

287
00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,280
Speaker 9: They lead the Pacers pre victories to tool resounding Game

288
00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,320
Speaker 9: five home court win one on nine as the Thunder

289
00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,960
Speaker 9: have two shots to get one win to hoist their

290
00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,640
Speaker 9: first ever NBA title.

291
00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,440
Speaker 1: That's our tyrac play of the day.

292
00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,680
Speaker 8: This is the best of the DOUN dot Leap Show

293
00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,440
Speaker 8: on Fox Sports Radio.

294
00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna love being able to change your beds firmness

295
00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,920
Speaker 1: whenever you'd like. You and your partner have very different

296
00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,040
Speaker 1: sleep number settings right well, if you wake up tired,

297
00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,080
Speaker 1: could because your mattress. Sleep Number uniquely contours your head

298
00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,480
Speaker 1: nag's shoulders for comfortable sleep. Ninety four percent of sleep

299
00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,640
Speaker 1: Number smart bet sleepers report better sleep quality versus non

300
00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,240
Speaker 1: smartbed sleepers. Adjustable firmness on each helps keep you asleep

301
00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,440
Speaker 1: and improves your sleep quality. What more could you ask for?

302
00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,080
Speaker 1: Why should you choose the sleep Number smart pet so

303
00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,920
Speaker 1: you can sleep the way you'd like. It's the only

304
00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,000
Speaker 1: bed that lets you make eat side firmer or softer

305
00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,200
Speaker 1: whenever you'd like your sleep number setting and now shop

306
00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,000
Speaker 1: the new summer cool down sale save percent of the

307
00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,640
Speaker 1: new Cooling special edition smartbed. Check it out at sleep

308
00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,840
Speaker 1: Number stores near you. Sleep Number Official sleep and Oneness

309
00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,760
Speaker 1: partner of the nfl c store, or sleeping No dot com.

310
00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,680
Speaker 1: Slash Doug for details. It's a Doug Outleeb show here

311
00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,960
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. We got Olden Polonies upcoming. I

312
00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,000
Speaker 1: don't know if we're playing Olden days or not. We

313
00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,080
Speaker 1: got an update coming from Dan Byer on potential injury

314
00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,360
Speaker 1: or injury update for Tyrese Halliburton. And some trades going

315
00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,360
Speaker 1: on in the NBA even while the season is still

316
00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,240
Speaker 1: going on, including one with one of the teams playing

317
00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,720
Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals. But one sho like just a

318
00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,920
Speaker 1: moment to take back a take you had with your buddies. Well,

319
00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,280
Speaker 1: Dan Byer gets that moment. We call it buyer's remorse.

320
00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:01,800
Speaker 8: Some have remorse.

321
00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,280
Speaker 6: I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior.

322
00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,200
Speaker 4: I engage, come on, but.

323
00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,240
Speaker 8: There's nothing quite like buyer's remorse.

324
00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:12,840
Speaker 1: All right there, damn.

325
00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,920
Speaker 4: Buyer, Doug.

326
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,960
Speaker 6: I've branched out, been taking liberties with this because I

327
00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,440
Speaker 6: know I'm wrong a lot, but I can't always be wrong,

328
00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,000
Speaker 6: so sometimes I try to look in different areas. And

329
00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,880
Speaker 6: what I'm remorseful about today was that I didn't bring

330
00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,720
Speaker 6: this up yesterday. This was a behind the scenes situation

331
00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,800
Speaker 6: at Fox Sports Radio. We've had some difficulties technically with

332
00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,879
Speaker 6: our clocks here. They've been like a second or two offs,

333
00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,480
Speaker 6: so or engineering department has been going crazy and trying

334
00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,680
Speaker 6: to sort this whole thing out. And yesterday Andrew from

335
00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,040
Speaker 6: the fifth floor came downstairs and Iowa Sam to his face,

336
00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:55,119
Speaker 6: said hey Corey, and it was so and Andrew goes,

337
00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:01,720
Speaker 6: I'm Andrew, and it was one of those hilarious, awkward

338
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,840
Speaker 6: moments that I actually thought. Iowa Sam called Andrew Corey

339
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,840
Speaker 6: for some hidden reason because he was so confident in him,

340
00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,520
Speaker 6: but called him the wrong name to his face, a coworker,

341
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,960
Speaker 6: and it was just it was so funny. It was hilarious,

342
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,639
Speaker 6: and I am remorseful that I didn't bring it up

343
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 6: yesterday as part of my love and hate.

344
00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 4: Do you remember this, Sam?

345
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,240
Speaker 1: What did you feel?

346
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,360
Speaker 4: What he said? It's Andrew?

347
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,800
Speaker 11: Well, okay, I see the guy maybe once here, so

348
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,040
Speaker 11: he's not really a coworker.

349
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,359
Speaker 12: He is, he works here, and he's got glasses. It

350
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,920
Speaker 12: is bald. Yeah, Corey's Corey does not wear glasses and.

351
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 4: Is not bald.

352
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 10: I think Corey does wear glasses and he is bald.

353
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,160
Speaker 4: They're both times, they're.

354
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,800
Speaker 11: Both bald with glasses. Yeah, they're the different guys, and

355
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 11: it was just a genuine mistake.

356
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,400
Speaker 10: I mix them up. So I'm glad that you found

357
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 10: a way to throw me under the bus for.

358
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 12: Your you're not throwing you under the bus is let's

359
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 12: say a little bit, a little bit because you know

360
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 12: they I could have brought it up today.

361
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 1: Yesterday it did air on National Radio EN podcast.

362
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,400
Speaker 4: Oh, because it was hilarious fun Andrew.

363
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,160
Speaker 1: Have you ever that happened? One of my assistant coaches.

364
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 1: I have a player named Mac Recky. He's a new coach.

365
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 1: He keeps calling him Matt and they're like, hey, you

366
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 1: gotta tell coach his name is Mac not Mac. Like, nah,

367
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 1: just see how long he goes until he figures it out.

368
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 10: It's like the Susie and Elaine thing from Seinfeld. Oh sus.

369
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 11: So, I'm glad he corrected me off the bat and

370
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 11: I and then I I like when I said Andrew,

371
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 11: I was like in my head, I was like, that's

372
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 11: that's all right, So it's Corey, Like that's.

373
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 4: Not Coy Corey.

374
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 10: And I knew it immediately, and I was like, yeah,

375
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 10: that's not that's not gonna.

376
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 7: Listen or uh chiming in here, Corvette Guy twenty eight.

377
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 1: Corvette Guy twenty eight, he's listening.

378
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 7: And did Sam look on Google for Corey's name.

379
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 6: The funny thing is is Jason is told the uh

380
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 6: Tyris Thomas story at least four times on this network,

381
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 6: has no problems talking about it. But I bring up

382
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 6: this one interaction and you feel like I'm throwing you

383
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 6: under the bus.

384
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 4: And I just I thought it was we're.

385
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 11: Putting out fires back here, and then all I hear

386
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 11: is this little embarrassing funny story to start.

387
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 10: And it's like, how is this tied into buyer's remorse?

388
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 1: Oh?

389
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 10: Because I should have.

390
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 4: Because I'm bringing up.

391
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,479
Speaker 1: Oh, it was.

392
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 6: It was great, especially because I feel like Iowa Sam

393
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 6: tries to go the extra mile, you know, and being friendly,

394
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 6: and then they're just flat out calling a guy by

395
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,719
Speaker 6: a wrong name straight to his face. It was just

396
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 6: it wasn't and it wasn't like an Andy Andrew sort

397
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 6: of thing, like you weren't even in the same zip code.

398
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 4: It was.

399
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 11: But yeah, I just listen, Dan, I respect how clever

400
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 11: you were in looping this into buyer's remorse, so I'll

401
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 11: give you credit for that. And I am glad that

402
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 11: the world got to hear this story. I could have

403
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 11: been remorseful.

404
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 6: About saying JJ spond would finish outside the top ten

405
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 6: you had as opposed to winning.

406
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 4: But est to the two is.

407
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 11: Drow my old corpse under the rolling bus wheels go

408
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 11: round and round.

409
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, let's get you ready for more

410
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 1: NBA in a second. First is that it Dan? Do

411
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,719
Speaker 1: you have anything I want of your l That's it,

412
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: all right, Let's get back to Dan. Get a quick

413
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: update now when.

414
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 6: He got Tarry's Halliburton have an MRI and his injured

415
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 6: right calf according to the ESPN Pacers, then we'll figure

416
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 6: out a plan for Halliburton's Game six is on Thursday.

417
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 6: Pacers training their first round pick and next week's draft

418
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 6: and the rights to mav A Young to the Pelicans

419
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 6: New Orleans. That's number twenty three overall. Next week, New

420
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 6: Orleans is giving the Pacers back their original first round pick.

421
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 6: In twenty twenty six, Oilers from Panthers eight o'clock Eastern time,

422
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 6: Stanley Cup Final tonight. Panthers up three to two, trying

423
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 6: to go back to back as Stanley Cup champions. Oilers

424
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 6: going back to Stuart's skinnering goal for tonight's contest. PGA

425
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 6: Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan will be stepping down following the

426
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 6: twenty twenty six PGA Tour season. Hall of Fame skipper

427
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 6: Joe Tory will serve as an honorary coach for the

428
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 6: America League during the next month's All Star Game in Atlanta.

429
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 1: Doug, back to you, all right, thanks so much, Doug

430
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's get some

431
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 1: insight on the NBA Finals story on the op All

432
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: the Ponies, Fox Sports Radio NBA analysts spent fifteen years

433
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: in the league. He joined us on the Doug Gotlip

434
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: Show on Fox Sports Radio. Op thanks for taking time.

435
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: What's your assessment of Halliburton? Looks like a strained calf.

436
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: I'd headed MRI today. Not healthy. Insisted on playing. If

437
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: you're Rick Carlisle, you keep throwing them out.

438
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 13: There, well you're gonna have to. I mean, this is

439
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 13: the Finals. But at the same time, you gotta beware

440
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 13: because that same calf could turn into something more serious.

441
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 13: So it's you know, six and one half dozen the others.

442
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 13: But I saw the way TJ McConnell was playing last

443
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 13: night that he said, just kept playing them, you know.

444
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 13: I mean, that was the wrench that they needed to

445
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 13: throw into that game. And those guys, you know, and

446
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 13: that's the problem with a lot of a lot of players,

447
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 13: you know, when the when the lights get bright, sometimes

448
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 13: a backfires, you know. But with tyreevese, I mean, he's

449
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 13: been stepping up with a lot of games, so you

450
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 13: kind of knew he was hurt. He was definitely not himself,

451
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 13: so it was tough to watch. But you know, that's

452
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 13: part of sports. You know, injuries do happen. But you know,

453
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 13: we'll have to wait and see.

454
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: Now, what are your thoughts on the likelihood that Oklahoma

455
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: City can keep this group together and continue to compete

456
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: for league championships.

457
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 13: It's a great question. I want to say it's likely

458
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 13: and unlikely at the same fact. But again, you know,

459
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 13: my favorite saying, we've seen this before, and so we've

460
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 13: seen this movie before. They had Harden, they had the Rant,

461
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 13: they had Westbrook, if they had a boxer and you know,

462
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 13: went to the finals loss and they were not able

463
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 13: to keep it together for financial reason. It's going to

464
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 13: come up to the same thing that whole Apron first April,

465
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 13: second Apron thing of the NBA. Now it makes it

466
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 13: very difficult, you know, but you know, we'll see. But

467
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 13: I think they're gonna have to make some moves eventually

468
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 13: because they can't pay all these guys. You know, you

469
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 13: can't say this guy is a superstar, as he is

470
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 13: superstar right now, so you got to pay him. You can't,

471
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 13: you know, say Jaylen William's superstar, because then you got

472
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 13: to pay him. Ched Holman is gonna have to get paid,

473
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 13: so It's just it's gonna come down to what are

474
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 13: they want to do. But again, Oklahoma, see thunder have

475
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 13: so many draft picks, they can just go get some

476
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 13: different guys.

477
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: The New York Dicks. And again this is for reports

478
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: Durant wants to go there, they're not interested. Why would

479
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: they not be interested in Ken.

480
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 13: Rant the same reason why they fighted Thibodau when they

481
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,120
Speaker 13: did the mix A side show. I mean, I was

482
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 13: really happy to see them being relevant again in the NBA.

483
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 13: But at the same time, some of the decisions that

484
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 13: they make. I'm not saying that they shouldn't have fied Tobe.

485
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 13: I think, you know, he's kind of like, you know,

486
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 13: it's tough sometimes watching him, you know, mismanage the team

487
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 13: and everything else. I get all that, but at the

488
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 13: same time, the timing of it was the problem for me.

489
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 13: You know, It's like, you can't do it right after

490
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 13: you lose, you know, especially with the season they had,

491
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 13: you know, start the next year or somebody, oh fire

492
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 13: him before. I mean, it's just it was just weird

493
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 13: the timing at all. And the Knicks havept been known

494
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 13: to do stuff like that, so I'm not surprised at all.

495
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 13: I mean, why wouldn't you want Kevin Durant. I'm I'm

496
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 13: assuming it's probably because of that asking price, you know,

497
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 13: because I know call Anthony Towns is probably odd man's

498
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 13: out right now. But I don't think they want to

499
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 13: give up either Michel Bridges or og Ananobi. But one

500
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 13: of those guys is going to have to go in

501
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 13: any trade, so we'll see.

502
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: Obviously, as you said, you wouldn't have traded you you

503
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: went to fired Tom Thibodeau. They haven'ten able to get

504
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: a head coach yet. Who should they hire? Who's who's

505
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: the best guy for them to hire?

506
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 13: Well, the fact that they went after Jason Kidd tells

507
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 13: you a lot. You know, It's like they were just

508
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 13: you know, we're making this, you know this thing right

509
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 13: now where we fired Thibodeau, so, you know, to to

510
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 13: appease a fan base, we had to make a splash.

511
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 13: And but you can't go after people that are already on

512
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 13: the contract. You went after Thibodeau, I mean after Jason Kid,

513
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 13: and which is insane. And then now all of a sudden,

514
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 13: you you double back to Taylor Jenkins and Mike Brown.

515
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 13: I mean that should have been your starting two right there,

516
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 13: you know, to see but at the same time, I don't.

517
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 13: Taylor Jenkins to me is probably the only one that

518
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 13: makes sense right now. But the most obvious one is

519
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 13: the one that I don't know if they're ever gonna

520
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 13: get is Mike Malone. To me, that's the guy that

521
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 13: they need. And so they're not willing to do something

522
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 13: like that because if you rehash Mike Brown, you're gonna

523
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 13: have the same issues that Sacramento Kings had because after

524
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 13: a while he wears on players. That's the problem.

525
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess my question why not Jeffan Gundhi.

526
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 13: Thank you, somebody like that, But I don't know Van. Yeah,

527
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 13: Van Gundy is with the Clippers right now, I could

528
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 13: see that. But again, bring him back with this kind

529
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 13: of talent. Yeah, that makes some sense. But the word

530
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 13: around right now, with a lot of teams that around

531
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 13: the nbas if some of these guys are not able

532
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 13: to make changes, you know, with the current players, you know,

533
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 13: they're stuck in their ways. Perfect example. I mean, I

534
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 13: love the man to death, but Papovich, for all his

535
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 13: greatness and all that, I think he even realized that.

536
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 13: You know what, I think, I'm a little outgrown this league,

537
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 13: and so they got to get you know, certain types

538
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 13: of coaches now that can relate to these guys.

539
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I agree some of us related, but

540
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: you have to relate while still being able to coach him.

541
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: Olden Polinies start getting Yeah, yeah, it's got to do both.

542
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: Like it, just relating doesn't work, just coaching doesn't work.

543
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: Got to be able to do both that works, And

544
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: then you have to have one. And it's really hard

545
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: to fire Tim Tom Thibodeau because he hasn't won deep

546
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and then not hire somebody who has.

547
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: So that's what at least I get about Jason Kidd

548
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: and somebody the other guys is at least somebody's been

549
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: to the NBA Finals before as a player and as

550
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: a coach. Op joints us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show,

551
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: What do you do with You're the Lakers? And I

552
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: say that because it's really hard to have more than

553
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: one guy who's not a strong defender on the floor

554
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: at once. Their three best offensive players are all poor defenders.

555
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: Luca hadn't played any defense, Lebron doesn't anymore, and you know,

556
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: then you have oh god, what's the why am I

557
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: forgetting his name from uh which to State and Oklahoma?

558
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: Who's their their the leading scorer Austin Reeves. Yeah, Austin Reeves,

559
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: what do you do with your Lakers and that's your

560
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: three best offensive players?

561
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 13: You tell them to olklomb and see it's under and

562
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 13: watch other teams. I mean, Gillis Alexander is the MVP

563
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 13: and top score and everything else. He gets down there

564
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 13: and play defense, he scraps. It's a mindset. You can't

565
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 13: keep rewarding people for stupidity, or you can't keep importing

566
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 13: people for lack of effort. I'm tired of it. It's

567
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 13: ridiculous to me. Yes, these guys are great players offensively,

568
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 13: but playing defense is a mindset. You just have to

569
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 13: commit to it. But if you keep allowing people to

570
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 13: doce or I can't play defense, they're not good defenders.

571
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 13: Of course they're going to be that way. You know,

572
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 13: take some of that money away from them and see

573
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 13: how much defense they play then. So I don't buy

574
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 13: into all that stuff because the reason I say that

575
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 13: is this, Austin Reeves, at some point in time played defense.

576
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 13: That's how he got into the NBA at some point

577
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 13: in time, Lebron played defense. At some point in time

578
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 13: Luca played defense. They're just not being consistent with it

579
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 13: because they're relying so much on the offense and the

580
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 13: mindset that all I can do now is offense. And

581
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 13: that's not fair to the game, that's not fair to

582
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 13: the teams, that's not fair to the fans. That's why

583
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 13: they lost because I knew they weren't gonna do well

584
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 13: because everybody kept saying that they're not good defenders, so

585
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 13: they bought into it.

586
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: Stephen A said earlier today that NBA players don't feel

587
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: safe in Memphis. Do you what do you feel about

588
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: that comment? Oh?

589
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 13: God, I really got issues with him and in his

590
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 13: comments though. But it's like another athenine statement by an

591
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 13: asenine individual. It's like ridiculous, How are you gonna make

592
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 13: that dumb statement? You might as well say that about

593
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 13: every other city you go to. That's absurd to me.

594
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 13: I mean, there's never been issues in Memphis. How all

595
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 13: of a sudden that there's a Memphis problem. He's just

596
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 13: looking for clickbait, that's all that is.

597
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: Any thought in your mind that Indiana comes back wins

598
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: this series, Yes.

599
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 13: I believe it. I mean it's based on this MRII specifically,

600
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 13: but I do believe Indiana's gonna win Games six on Thursday,

601
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 13: and it's him. Sevens are always a freetball and so

602
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 13: to me, it's gonna be fun to see, and I

603
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 13: believe Indiana can win this series. I mean, they've played well.

604
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 13: Outside of the turnovers and some of these crazy whistles

605
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 13: we get at inopportunity times, they really played well. They

606
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 13: played solid, so I'm not surprised, you know, and it's

607
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 13: been really good basketball to watch. Again outside of the

608
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 13: turnover because some of those turnovers are not unforced either.

609
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 13: The unforced ones kill Indiana, but the ones that the

610
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 13: referee is allowed to happen, you know, guys get hitting

611
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 13: the head and everything else. You know, that's neither that's

612
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 13: you know, That's what I'm really talking about. But at

613
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 13: the same time, they have as good a shot as

614
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 13: any And again, all the pressure has been on, okay

615
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 13: see because they have to win. They've the number one steed,

616
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 13: so they have to win. Amy has been playing with

617
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 13: free money all year.

618
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 1: Ope, you're the best man. I appreciate you joining us.

619
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being our guest. On Fox Sports Radio.

620
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 13: All right, thank you.

621
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 8: Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk lineup in

622
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 8: the nation yet. Catch all of our shows at Fox

623
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 8: sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app.

624
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: It's Dog Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. So

625
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: during Game four of the NBA Finals, Steven A. Smith

626
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: was both photographed and there's been video of him sitting

627
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: watching the game while playing Solitaire on his phone. His response,

628
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: his response when asked about it on social media when

629
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: the picture was posting he was tagged, was basically, hey,

630
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: it's during a timeout. I can do whatever I want.

631
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 1: Then somebody else saw that and posted the actual video

632
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: of him playing Solitaire while the game was going on.

633
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: Here's Steven A. Smith of ESPN discussing it on TV.

634
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: I can ask you a question.

635
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 14: I should also be playing a little game on my phone,

636
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 14: that's right, like I'm doing so, yes, I mean, what's

637
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 14: going on here? And I was doing what the hell

638
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 14: I always do. And for those out there who don't

639
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 14: like it, kiss my eyes when I'm watching the game.

640
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: I'm watching the game.

641
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 14: If there's a break into action, it could be a

642
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 14: dead ball, it could be a time out of something

643
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 14: like that. I could play the damn thing for two seconds.

644
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 14: Somebody is standing over me upper deck, zooming in on

645
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 14: my phone, watching me and saying, oh, he's playing Solitaire.

646
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 14: He's not com he's not focusing on the game. Watch

647
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 14: over one hundred games a year. I'm on TV every

648
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 14: morning for two hours, ten hours live every day. And

649
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 14: that's just one job. That don't count, count Down, that

650
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 14: don't count Sports Center, that don't count all the obligations

651
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 14: that I have. And I'm sitting there and getting a

652
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 14: little break, and I decide to play a little Solitaire, which,

653
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 14: by the.

654
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: Way, I always do, and I mean always.

655
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 14: If I sit up there, if this halftime, I might

656
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 14: go on my foe for two minutes to play Solitaire.

657
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 14: At the end of the game. Before a game, I

658
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 14: do the same thing. Damn it. If you had had

659
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 14: a little break in between, I might have been praying

660
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 14: to it again because I like the game.

661
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: How'd you do I want?

662
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 4: That particular was?

663
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: Okay? It could have been something else on that phone.

664
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 15: Right, Oh, this one's too easy. Right, it's just too easy.

665
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 15: The levels to it, which are embarrassing. I'm probably gonna

666
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 15: miss some. So Jason, you may be able to hop

667
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 15: in on it. The first thing is, again, this is

668
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 15: about optics as much as anything. Okay, if we're being

669
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 15: honest with ourselves. I watched their halftime show and they

670
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 15: go to stephen A first and he does what he

671
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 15: always does.

672
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: Again, and it's work for him. So I'm not blaming him.

673
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: Is it's always some big bombastic statement that has that

674
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: he is his takeaway from the first half of the game,

675
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: the first twenty four minutes of the game, right, somebody's terrible,

676
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: They're horrible, they're not ready to play there, blah blah

677
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. So it actually doesn't matter

678
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: if we're really honest about him watching each possession, because

679
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't know he's watching anyway. I mean, that's the

680
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: reality of it. Like, what are we kidding ourselves. He

681
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: can watch every play and he still doesn't see it,

682
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: doesn't feel it. It's not a basketball like you guy.

683
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: And and by the way, that's not his brand, and

684
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: that's not his brand. But it's embarrassing because of the

685
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: optics of it. Right, here's a guy who's making more

686
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: money than anybody on ESPN. They're the rights holder, and

687
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: you can't even pay attention to the game. And then

688
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: when somebody says, like you're watching the Solitaire, like, ah,

689
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: my bad. You know it's a bad habit. I usually

690
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: do it during timeouts, and I had leaked over into

691
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: the game. That's what any normal rational. But the defiance

692
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: of it kind of proves our point, right because then

693
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: the defiance of it, he goes to the all the

694
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: other jobs that he has, which is not really even

695
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: part of the question. Nobody cares about the other jobs

696
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: you have. Nobody asks you about your radio show or

697
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: your podcast or TV show or anything. Nobody zero people

698
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 1: asked or cared. They asked you're analyzing a game, you're

699
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: on pre post half time, and you're not paying attention.

700
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: You're playing Solitaire, And the reasonable explanation is like, ah

701
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: my bad. Yeah, I was watching the game playing Solitaire

702
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: and should have been doing in the game. My bad.

703
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: But then you get defiant. You start doing I got

704
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: this job and I got that job. You know what

705
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: that is. That's I make a lot of money. I

706
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: work really hard so I can do what I want

707
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: to do. It's obnoxious, it's entitled and super embarrassing. Imagine

708
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: if you work at a ESPN and you're like, wait,

709
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: that dude's the face of our company. He makes twenty

710
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: million a year and he can't even he can't even

711
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: pay attention. And then when asked HI about paying attention,

712
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: he goes into some defiance, child like I got all

713
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: these jobs, nobody cares. And again, if it would be

714
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 1: one thing is if you were always prepared for everything

715
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: you do. The secret is Steven A. Smith. He's has

716
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: never prepared. He doesn't right. And look, some things you

717
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: can't prepare for. Some things you can't bring in stats,

718
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: and guys can overprepare in the business. And I get it,

719
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: I understand it. I got some of that myself. But like,

720
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: this is what happened to him when he was doing

721
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, Monday Night Countdown, and was it Hunter Henry.

722
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: He's like, Hunter Henry is going to be a huge

723
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: factor to night for the Chargers against the Patriots. But

724
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry was out for the year with the torn

725
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: acl and he didn't know that. Why because he doesn't prep,

726
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: He doesn't study, He doesn't even take notes from a

727
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: PA because his ego is too gigantic to have somebody

728
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: who actually watches the games prep for him give him

729
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: a note and just just repeat what you see on

730
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: a card. Can't do it. John Middlecoff joints this year

731
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, John

732
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: steven A. Smith playing Solitaire, wall of game going on

733
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, by the way, saying I only did

734
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: it during a break, and then there's video of him

735
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: doing it. Not the end of the world, but tracks

736
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: to just about what everybody thought. Right, Well, I.

737
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 16: Would say this, you know, when I got into radio

738
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 16: after football, I was going to all the major sports,

739
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 16: and football, basketball and baseball. Obviously baseball screw around in

740
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 16: a position that you're gonna have to talk about a

741
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 16: game between pitches, and same thing kind of with football

742
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 16: between plays. There was some downtime. I was going to

743
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 16: a lot of Warriors games now a lot like these

744
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 16: teams in the NBA finals, especially the Pacers, they go

745
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 16: out rapid speed. If you start bsing with the guy

746
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 16: next to you or start messing on your phone, you know,

747
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 16: for a couple of minutes, a lot happens in the

748
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 16: game of basketball. Like I would say, of all the

749
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 16: sports to me, if you told me he was at

750
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 16: like an NFL game, I don't think it would be

751
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 16: that crazy, right, you got forty seconds between plays. I'm

752
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 16: sure other guys do it like it wouldn't be a

753
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 16: great look. I think basketball at the NBA Finals. I

754
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 16: mean it's it's hard to pay attention in that sport.

755
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 16: I mean, you know better than anybody if you're not

756
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 16: really just watching the game, right, I mean, it'd be

757
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 16: one thing if it was during a time out, it

758
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 16: was clearly during the actions.

759
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: Well, and then it's during the action. All you got

760
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: to say is like, yeah, my bad, he said. He

761
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: goes into defiance mode and tries to make us I didn't.

762
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 13: Even see who asked him about it.

763
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we'll play it for you here. You guys

764
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: got that clip. This is Steven a when he was

765
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: asked about it. I can ask you a question.

766
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 14: I should also be playing a little games on my phone,

767
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 14: that's right, like I'm.

768
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 4: Doing so yeah, I mean, what's going on here?

769
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 14: I was doing what the hell I always do. And

770
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 14: for those out there who don't like it, kiss my ass.

771
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 14: When I'm watching the game, I'm watching the game. If

772
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 14: there's a break in the action, it could be a

773
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 14: dead ball, it could be a time out or something

774
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 14: like that. I can play the damn thing. For two seconds,

775
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 14: somebody is standing over me upper deck, zooming in on

776
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 14: my phone, watching me and saying, oh, he's playing Solitaire.

777
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 14: He's not coming, he's not focusing on the game. I

778
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 14: watch over one hundred games a year. I'm on TV

779
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 14: every morning for two hours, ten hours live every day.

780
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 14: And that's just one job. That don't count count Down,

781
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 14: that don't count Sports Center, that don't count all the

782
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 14: obligations that I have. And I'm sitting there and getting

783
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 14: a little break, and I decide to play a little solitaid, which,

784
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 14: by the.

785
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: Way, I always do, and I mean always.

786
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 14: If I sit up there, if this halftime, I might

787
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 14: go on my phone for two minutes to play solitude.

788
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he goes on and on and on instead

789
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: of just going I mean it was.

790
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 16: They were playing. What in the game you could see

791
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 16: you could see No, there's there's.

792
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: There's yeah, there's video of them playing.

793
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 16: I don't think any if you had said it was

794
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 16: a time out and it was clear, I don't think

795
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 16: anyone would it would have been funny, but it wouldn't

796
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 16: have been a big deal. I mean, they were they

797
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 16: were playing, right.

798
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: That that's where that's where the old. It's the cover

799
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: up is bigger than the crime, right, Like, yeah, I

800
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: was playing solid term on my phone. My bad. Instead

801
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: you start raising your voice and going like you get

802
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: my alf You're like, okay, dude, clearly you're defense about it.

803
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: Obviously it's a problem. You got caught not paying attention,

804
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, Okay. I just it's just weird where our

805
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: industry has gone. Doug Gotlieb show here on Fox Sports Tradio,

806
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: John middleco choices Straight Out is the is the podcast? Uh,

807
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on Micah Parsons and this contact negotiation

808
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys?

809
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean I think we have a history now Dallas,

810
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 16: the way they do business. I mean my theory is

811
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 16: like Jerry must have some incredible investment that he doesn't

812
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 16: want to lose, you know, pulling out the cast to

813
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 16: the last possible second. Because if you're a betting man,

814
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 16: I don't know how you would bet against this being

815
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 16: done sometime I don't know, after August twentieth. From his

816
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 16: he has a pretty clear history now the last several

817
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 16: deals that have been massive in Ceedee Lamb and Dak

818
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 16: and I think it was a couple of years when

819
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 16: they gave Zach Martin that raid the last possible second.

820
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 16: I would expect it to be somewhat similar to this,

821
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 16: Like I don't think my expectation is like July twentieth,

822
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 16: you know, a couple of days before camp, Michaeh Parsons

823
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 16: has been extended, Like, I mean, that would be going

824
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 16: down a different path than Jerry, who has this unique position.

825
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 16: He owns the team, it's his money, and he conferns

826
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 16: himself to GM. It's like Al Davis without all the

827
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 16: football experience. Beside, I get, I mean Jerry played back

828
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 16: in the early sixties or whatever, but it's just how

829
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 16: Jerry does this.

830
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just thought it was interesting and

831
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: it is how he does biz. And he said as

832
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: much last year. He said, hey, I'd rather pay more

833
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: knowing everything than I would signing signing a guy too early,

834
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: And it does track.

835
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 16: But the thing is, like, I get what he's saying,

836
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 16: and I think, like, you'd rather pay more. You'd rather

837
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 16: pay an extra five million dollars a year in free

838
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 16: agency you know you're getting the pro bowler than overpaying

839
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 16: an average guy. I totally these are always Jerry's guys. Yes,

840
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 16: he's extending people that like Jarry You've known ceedee Land

841
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 16: since he was twenty one. Jerry, You've known Dak since

842
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 16: you drafted him ten years ago. You've known Michael Parsons

843
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 16: now for whatever five five plus years. Like these aren't

844
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 16: like random acquisitions, right, I mean, this isn't a merger

845
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 16: at act with where you've just you've done a little

846
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 16: uh some uh you know, you put a pi on

847
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 16: it to get some like this guy's been your building

848
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 16: every day for several years.

849
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 13: Well, it's crazy.

850
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: I did want to ask you a little bit, uh

851
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: jumpin a Coofsar guesting owns the podcast. He also has

852
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: a Going Low podcast, which is his golf podcast. Couple

853
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: of things, First, do you like did you like the setup?

854
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: And it was a very very difficult golf course.

855
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 16: In SIY I did, because it's like the one time

856
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 16: really every three or four years. I mean they only

857
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 16: played this course. It's the hardest course in America, uh

858
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 16: said by every player that moves on property. And then

859
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 16: you're watching it, you're like, you know, I don't need

860
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 16: thirty under, but I do like some more fireworks.

861
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 5: Uh.

862
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 16: And it does you know, let's face it, when it's

863
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 16: that difficult and random. You know, the leaderboard actually doesn't

864
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 16: look bad. There's the Schefflers and the Xanders and the Koepkas,

865
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 16: but they were never really in the mix. Uh So, like,

866
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 16: I don't know, I'm I mean, I do like it's

867
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 16: a unique tests. It's our you know, championship here in America.

868
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 16: It's always kind of what it's hung. He's had on

869
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 16: since I was a kid, some of those courses in

870
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 16: the nineties. I remember you the Olympic Club and Peyne

871
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 16: Stewart was like putting it off the green back.

872
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 13: At his feet.

873
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 16: But watching it is like this might be a little

874
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 16: too hard, you know, So I'm torn.

875
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you saw Jye Monahan is gonna gonna step down.

876
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: You know, he's been there a decade. But this is

877
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: this is all the live thing, is it not?

878
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 13: Yeah?

879
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 16: I mean I think the headline says that he's gonna

880
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 16: step down in twenty six let's say that his career

881
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 16: ended today, Yes, right, And they hired this guy, you

882
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 16: know my thing is and I was just kind of

883
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 16: putting together a podcast. I think this guy, I don't

884
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 16: know if you saw the details on Brian roll App

885
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 16: I think is his name. Twenty two years with the NFL,

886
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 16: and I was looking you know, Pete Rozelle way back

887
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 16: in the day, in the sixties. I mean, it was

888
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 16: a world. But if you look at the last two

889
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 16: Tagliaboo and Roger, right, Tagliaboo was the NFL's lawyer in

890
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 16: the eighties and obviously they had gone through a lot

891
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 16: in the eighties, so like he was very entrenched with

892
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 16: the business. Roger worked for Tagliaboo. New insight that this

893
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 16: is not your normal force five hundred company, where like Chipotle,

894
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 16: you know, Starbucks hires the guy from Chipotle. They're not

895
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 16: hiring some random guy outsider. They're going to hire someone

896
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 16: that knows where the bodies are buried. This guy, you know,

897
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 16: Roger sixty six. So this guy goes the PGA tour

898
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 16: IF over the next several years, he does a really

899
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 16: good job, and now you know, Arthur Blank and some

900
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 16: of these football guys are involved with financing the tour.

901
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 16: This guy's going to be the next commissioner because he

902
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 16: will not only know the way the NFL works, he's

903
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 16: worked there for twenty two years, he's worked side by

904
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 16: side with Roger for the last several but now he

905
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 16: will have been in charge of something. It's smaller than

906
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 16: the NFL, but you know, these golf's unique because they

907
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 16: get these enormous sponsors with big time money. It's kind

908
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 16: of a knee steal, but it's a it's a highly

909
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 16: lucrative niche deal. And he would be like I have,

910
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 16: like I know what it's like to be in charge

911
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 16: of the whole thing. So if this goes well and

912
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 16: there can be a transition with Live, I would look

913
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 16: for this guy to succeed Roger Goodell. And you know,

914
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 16: I don't know four or five years.

915
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean it's and and people have wondered

916
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: out loud who the next commissioner of the NFL is

917
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: when Goodell's tenure comes to that not a guy you

918
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: necessarily want to uh follow. But if you have that experience,

919
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: if you can figure out a way to unite Live

920
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: and the PGA Tour, if you can figure out a

921
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: way uh to get to to move golf back to

922
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: where it was in the Tiger Woods era, you can

923
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: figure those out, then you can do it with the NFL.

924
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 13: And think about this.

925
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 16: The one thing he'll be dealing with very closely, just

926
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 16: like in all these leaks, is they're in business with CBS.

927
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 16: They're they're in business with ESPN and and NBC and

928
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 16: obviously streaming and merging that over the next four or

929
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 16: five years with golf it will be huge Google and

930
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 16: YouTube with the YouTube influences massive. So he like where

931
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 16: this is going. And he I think that was kind

932
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 16: of his job with the NFL, but now like he

933
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 16: no longer has to go up the chain, like he's

934
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 16: at the top of the chain. So I think he

935
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 16: will have a resume in a couple of years. And

936
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 16: who knows, maybe you know, he's making so much money

937
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 16: and things are going with PGA tourries, like it's not

938
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 16: even the NFL is not even worth a headache. But

939
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 16: I'd be stunned if this guy, if it goes well,

940
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 16: I don't know. He's not the lead candidate here in

941
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 16: a couple of years.

942
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: Last thing, this is a new system for Aaron Rodgers,

943
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: a different style. He doesn't have a ton of time

944
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: as a lead up, but he should have enough time.

945
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: How does he fit in to this offensive system?

946
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 16: Well, I think that the experience with Lafleur and once

947
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 16: he kind of relented after nineteen and started winning those

948
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,479
Speaker 16: MVPs in twenty and twenty one, it was about run

949
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 16: first past second, you know, which you know, even with

950
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 16: McCarthy was about spreading it out and slinging around. When

951
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 16: you look at Arthur Smith when he became a hot

952
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 16: name in the NFL, it was with Tanny Hill running

953
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 16: the ball and really playing defense. And at the end

954
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 16: of the day, like Bruce Arians was fired once from

955
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 16: Pittsburgh after they won the Super Bowl. Why because they

956
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 16: passed it too much. So the family business is running

957
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 16: the ball and playing in defense. And if you're Aaron

958
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 16: at forty one years old, I mean part of like

959
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 16: when he got to the Jets, why people thought he

960
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 16: was gonna be success, Like great defense, they got brief

961
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 16: Hall take pressure off them, and then it kind of

962
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 16: morphs that a lot fell on his back. So if

963
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 16: the defense can't improve, I mean last year down the stretch,

964
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 16: the SEALSS.

965
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 13: Holds off on defense.

966
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 16: And this young guy from Iowa. I don't know how

967
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 16: much Iowa football you watched last year, but I thought

968
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 16: Caleb Johnson was a beast. He's like six' to two

969
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 16: or he's like sixty one two twenty, five but he's a.

970
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 16: Rookie you, know if he could have a big year

971
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,479
Speaker 16: With Jalen, warren and they can just run the ball

972
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 16: and play d and then just Let rogers do what he.

973
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 16: Does you, know ideally like twenty five thirty attempts a,

974
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 16: game not, fifty you, KNOW i think they could have some.

975
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: Success John minocoff, three now's a, podcast also The Going

976
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: Low Golf. Podcast if it's a, podcast he'll do. It

977
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: he joins us On The Doug Gotlip. Show johnny The.

978
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: Best thanks for joining, Us, Motter doug