1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Because topics that it's about to explode in a way 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: that we have never seen before in the history of 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: this country. In a couple of weeks, there are gonna 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: be eviction is gonna be happening, and the most heavily 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: targeted are going to be people of fellas, black and 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: brown people, and as well as our indigenous rusts and sisters, 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: and they will encounter these same systematic injustices that are 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: in place now. The question is what will we do 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 1: about it? Right? What can we do about the right. 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: One thing we can do is we can stay here 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: and keep and keep on putting the pressure on in 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: these corrupt systems. You don't pay attention to us now, 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: you're trying to take away our voyds fellows, so that 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: hell would you. This is Theo Henderson from Leudi and House. 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: We're here in the early September first morning to protest 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: against the police brutality that is continued, and we're trying 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: to also hold the Los Angeles Police Department accountable for 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: varied lives and the deception about their concerning about the 19 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: unhoused issues as well as police brutality. We are thinking 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: about our relatives who have been murdered. Just last night, 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: we had another murder here, Dijon Kezi stay his name, 22 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: y'at what the new serving the Democrats in California did 23 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: not do any type of police reform. So we are 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: going here to hold the police accountable as well as 25 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: the city accountable. And we're going to continue to cover 26 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: these issues so the the world knows just exactly how 27 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: corrupt and how broken the system is. Made contact with 28 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: seventeen thousands, Yeah, they had like less than seven people 29 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: in a show. They're like four people that have found 30 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: permanent out of seventeen thousand contacts. We've been bringing them 31 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: facts and figures. We've been bringing them. How deep the 32 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: impact of Lbedi's violent policies is how people are being killed, 33 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: how people are being surveilled, how people are being vanished, 34 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Our people are being removed from land, how police ultimately 35 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: serves the profit of the powerful, the jetrifiers and the developers. 36 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: The parallel of the sixties is very apparent here. Many 37 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: of the civil rights leaders had to go through the 38 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: same kind of apathy and difference and outright resistance of 39 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: any type of change. Put those billions of dollars, is 40 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: it helping the people who are sick or poor. You 41 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: need shelter. We need public health services, and that includes 42 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: mental health services too. What is surprising, and this a similarity, 43 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: is not everybody was on board with the civil rights 44 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: movement back in the early fifties and sixties, and conversely 45 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: the same going on here. People are consistently surrey picking 46 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: about the protest movement. Their thing, that about looting and rioting. 47 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: But the reality is they don't want change to happen, 48 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: and they're using that as a pivot point to justify 49 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: their different The CEO Henderson from Median House and there 50 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: will be more about this is CEO Henderson from Media 51 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: at House and we are here live in a direct 52 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: action and to prevent people from taking unhoused people's things. 53 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: As an unhoused member myself, I can tell you how 54 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: I lost my medication ID on several times. I had 55 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 1: to start over personal papers, awards and things that I've 56 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: gotten and all to start all over again. Here in 57 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: the studios is a friend of mine and I will 58 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: let her tell her what her experiences is of being 59 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: out here on the street. Well, well, I've been on 60 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: the street for like a year. It's it's a little hard, 61 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: like you get adapted and you get used to it. However, 62 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't really get like easy enough when it comes 63 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: to like showering and like if you have like certain things. 64 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: I live in California where it's really hot, so you 65 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: don't want to walk around with all your stuff on 66 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: the daily. But finding a place to sleep sometimes mayne 67 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 1: tricky when you have places like sanitation coming every week 68 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: and people enforcing it. So I'll say probably the easiest 69 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: part I've had about being homeless is the access to 70 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: like food, because there's been like a certain like problem area. 71 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: I will say in various parts of La County, there 72 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: are a lot of outreach workers that know where to 73 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: find us and where we can get food and resources 74 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: for showering and such things. So that's what I I 75 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: know they can't have any questions I can answer that 76 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: how did you become out here on the street, because 77 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: I know you didn't wake up and say, hey, I 78 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be great to be out here lugging 79 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: my stuff on the heat in California. Right. Well, I 80 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: had lived in Saint Louis for four years where I 81 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: had myself established, and I had left California to now 82 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: be homeless. Well, I ended up moving in with my 83 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: boyfriend of five years. Things didn't work out, so I 84 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: moved back home to California. I stayed with my mom 85 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: for about ten months to a year after that. She 86 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: ended up moving somewhere somewhere else, but she had Section eight, 87 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: so she can't really have people with her, you know. 88 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 1: So with that, you know, I was trying to find shelters. 89 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: I was working at the Dollars at the time, and 90 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: I was in school, so it was really hard to 91 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: like juggle all of those things. So I just got overwhelmed, 92 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, and like and tried to find 93 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: another way and just kind of like found myself. Oh 94 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: my luck, you know. But luckily I found a shelter 95 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: that can help me with housing. So, oh what shelter 96 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: is that. I believe it's the Salvation Army and they 97 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: work with LA Family Housing. Oh very good, I could say. 98 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 1: So you've got a quicker turnaround than most unused people 99 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: do living out here on the streets. And it is 100 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: a reality with Section eight that they are very over 101 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: the top with their rules that you are criminalized if 102 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: you have someone that lives in with you. You have 103 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: to have this very old, an archaic idea of staying 104 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: in an impover state in order for you to get 105 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: the help. What would be another way for people to 106 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: learn about your situation? No, how could you help them 107 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: get a better idea of what it's like to live 108 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: out on the street. Okay, Well, basically you'll sometimes be 109 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: tired a lot, and with that, she'll probably drink a 110 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: whole lot of caffeine. Unfortunately, some people use drugs and 111 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: that's not really the best way I can give advice, 112 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, Like my best advice would be is if 113 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: you are on the street, if you're not huge to it, 114 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: or if you're trying to get off the street, stay focused, 115 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: stay like around the right people, because it can be 116 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: hard to find the right people when they're you know, 117 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: in the same situation as you. You don't know how 118 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: everyone's handling it, you know. So basically the best way 119 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: to put it is, like you're getting up early. You 120 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: might have a different outlook on life. You might have 121 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: to carry less or carry more or usual like mentally 122 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: and physically. So can I ask have you ever had 123 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: some things your things taken away from you during the sleep? 124 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: I have Actually, when I first came down here. I 125 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: lived near Tyron. This was my first time like living 126 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: on the street like in a ten and I was 127 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: still through doing your sleep. They did it before, so 128 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: they don't take ourself away. We left, but the next 129 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: week we came back and all of our stuff was 130 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: gone because we had it like really hooked up, you know. 131 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, that made me sad because I had a 132 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: lot of clothes like you know that I actually really 133 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: liked that My mom gave me or I plan to 134 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: give to her. So it's just like the things that 135 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: you do accumulate being homeless, Yeah, they don't last long 136 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: if if you you have to really keep an eye 137 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: on them. Why do people why do you think people 138 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: hate to see uh hate unhouse people? That's that's a 139 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: great question. Actually, Well the thing is, I don't think 140 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: people would hate to see unhoused people, But there is 141 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: a stereotype. Everything has a stereotype stamp on it. Unfortunately, 142 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: if you are homeless, and if you want to be 143 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: taken seriously, you have to conduct yourself a certain way. 144 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: Because you're you're homeless, that's not your who you are, 145 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: that's just your situation. But you can't expect the whole 146 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: world to see that. So like, let me jump in 147 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: there right quick, because I'm on house too. And for example, Apple, 148 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: there are people that live in houses that don't do 149 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: the right thing, are stuff and we don't hold them 150 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: to the same standard. And the second thing is that 151 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: there's a talking mom and I always try to pounce 152 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: on is people that deserve to be housed and people 153 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: that don't. And I think that sometimes even in the 154 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: house community, is that it shouldn't be a punishment that 155 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: someone's out here about And I think that's one of 156 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: the things that I wanted to see if we have 157 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: a shift in thinking of that that. Yes, Seah, me and 158 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: my friend actually just had a conversation about that at 159 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: three in the running this morning. I don't think anyone 160 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: wants to sitting on our house, but okay, so I 161 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: let her know. In California there are like different types 162 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: of people who are homeless, some people I don't know 163 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: how big or small that number is, over seventy thousand. Well, okay, 164 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: that's a lie. Yeah, I know it's a high number. 165 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: I think we have that. Yeah, but here's the thing too. 166 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: Out of seventy thousand people, put the whole seventy thousand 167 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: of unhoused people as crack addicts, drug addicts. Unfortunately, everybody 168 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: and even tho thus that have mental health and you 169 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: can't magically become sane out here on the street. So 170 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: or you can't magically stop doing these substances because you 171 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: don't have the treatment plans like Malibu, like many of 172 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: the rich superstars they go out there. I totally agree 173 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: with that, actually, yeah, because that's what I was getting at. 174 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: I was making a statement that a lot of places 175 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: where there's homeless areas, you have to keep it clean. 176 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: Our tent stays clean inside of out because we don't 177 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: want any problems. We don't want that. Oh, like all 178 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: homeless people are, you know, messy stamped on us. You know, 179 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: we know who we are, We know who are people 180 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: are or whatever we're you know. But it's not about 181 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: just the stereotype. We want to keep our place to stay, 182 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying where we are on the 183 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: street because it's still the world is dangerous, you know. 184 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: So I would say, like there's different reasons for people 185 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: homeless out here. Very few I've met do it by choice. 186 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: They want to be on the right. Okay, you could 187 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: sense majority maybe have done or do drugs right of 188 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: any kind, alcohol, whatever, But I don't think a lot 189 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: of them started that way. No, they didn't. In fact, 190 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: people have told me they were before they became un housed, 191 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: they were doing they were fine, but because it was 192 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: so stressful and they had to stay up and may 193 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: from getting robbed and things like that, they used something 194 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: to keep them up. But also substance usage as well 195 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: as mental health is a health issue. It means it's 196 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: a chemical imbalance in the brain. It's people don't understand 197 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: that because we're not we're not doctors, But when doctors, 198 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: doctors tell you, like, okay, there's affecting parts of your brain, 199 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: and it connects with that exactly. If it was so 200 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: easy for people to stop doing drugs, people with even 201 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: many even in the house community, which a news report 202 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: just said there's a high adusage of phenanol fentanyl abuse 203 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: in housing during this pandemic. That ain't got nothing to 204 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: do with the house people. But you don't see us 205 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: running around making stereotypes about these house people that are 206 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: overdosing on fittanol or other drugs having those So those 207 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: are the issues that we need to have a conversation 208 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: to shift on. Yes, I totally agree with that. I'd 209 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: also like to point out too that a lot of 210 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: drug users that I have seen, you know, I didn't 211 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: grow up around drugs or alcohol or any of those things, 212 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, so they're still failing into me to see 213 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: how people handle those. I would say a lot of 214 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: the drug uses I've seen at least are respectable to 215 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: the point where they don't leave their paraphermilia. They don't 216 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: do it out in public around you know, public or children, 217 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: and that's all you can do, Like if you can 218 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: just activialize it. This isn't really what you do, it's 219 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: how you do it. Unfortunately, a lot of people do 220 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: it this certain way that's looked down upon. So there's 221 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: that stereotypes run it into the education as well, because 222 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: harm reduction is a very true thing that we need 223 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: to talk about, and we need to stop criminalizing people 224 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: that are in substance usage in order for them to 225 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: get help. Because if we keep beat them in their head, 226 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: they're not going to go and get the help. But 227 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: if we say, you know what, we're going to be 228 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: more compassionate with you, put places where you can get 229 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: your treatment and help. Then it will you will see 230 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: a difference. And what are we going to do about 231 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: the people that are overdosing in houses? We can't kick 232 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: in their house and take their things and treat them 233 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: like they're out of the street, right, that's very true too. Yeah, 234 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: and with that, I think we just have a whole 235 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: lot of work to do. We really do. I think, 236 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: like you said, with the mental health, that's really important. 237 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: That's something we're not talking about, and that's something that 238 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: isn't spoken a lot about in rural communities. Like growing up, 239 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: we didn't really talk about mental health, yes, and that's 240 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: something we need to because the you know, people, the 241 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: streets are really hard. They change you. If you have 242 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: a really good healthy spirit and you become homeless, you 243 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: have to be shown, you have to be around the 244 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: right people. You have to have some kind of foundation 245 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: or prayer something like that, because mental health is really well, 246 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: really play a role in your everyday life out here. 247 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: I have mental health, you know, disorders, and I try 248 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: to stay on top of it and all those things. 249 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: But again, being in the street can make it hard. 250 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: When how do you how do you stay on top 251 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: of it if you have mental health challenges? It's that 252 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: in itself is a challenge. Honestly, it's just to the 253 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: point where when I'm like, okay, it's become enough because 254 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm like honest, ge and then I get too tired 255 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: and I'm not doing what I'm supposed to, you know, 256 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: because I can. I can definitely admit that I can 257 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: work harder. In the past, I've given myself housing. But 258 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: like I said, it's a it's a mental thing because 259 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: when you fight so many battles being homeless, it's just 260 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: about the end, like how much more can you take? 261 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: Can I keep going on? It's like you question your 262 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: own like strength, insanity, you know. So how I stay 263 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: on top is I just make it a habit. I 264 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: stay around people that know me, like support me. I love. 265 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: You have a support system. I do. I try to 266 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: keep one, you know, no matter how small. But what 267 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: if someone that has mental health issues that don't have 268 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: the support system, how are they're going to be able 269 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: to get that? Well, the first thing is evaluating yourself, 270 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, like if you're feeling some type of way 271 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: that you feel is really affecting your life, your everyday life, 272 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: to the point you can't handle your business. To get 273 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: yourself out of this rut, because it takes work to 274 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: get out of being homeless, it does, you know, it 275 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: takes a twenty four hour job. People think you're sitting 276 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: out all right, yeah, and you never know when there's 277 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: gonna be one little thing you're missing or need or 278 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: something to kick you all out of your place in 279 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: line for anything. So, like I said, it took me, 280 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: you know a little bit over a year, you know, 281 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: like to get into the housing. I don't have an 282 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: ID because I don't have like this paperwork, and I 283 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: feel like field for people who are from California and 284 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: don't have any of their paper boards. I have a 285 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: story to tell you, guys. It's so true. I'm from 286 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: Chicago and I have again. I got swept and I 287 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: lost my ID, my birth certificate, social Security card, right, 288 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: so I have to go back. I can't get my 289 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: Social I mean my Social Security until I get my 290 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: birth certificate. And I can't get my birth certificate because 291 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: it's in Chicago. I can't get the birth certificate because 292 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: it's closed down to COVID nineteen. So how in the 293 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: hell am I'm supposed to continue that the am applied 294 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: for housing if I can't get this thing. And I begged. 295 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: I've sent letters to and they just said there's nothing 296 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: we could do, but so know who you are. And honestly, 297 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: I went through the same exact thing. Okay, So before 298 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: I was homeless, I was like working some pretty good jobs. 299 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: Like you know, I had an apartment, I travel and 300 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Money wasn't really something I just about 301 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: right until I got older. So I lived in New 302 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: York for a little bit. I didn't have an ID. 303 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: I just live California. I'm familiar with New York, and 304 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: I thought there was like ways around meeting and ID 305 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: that I could apply for food stamps out there, use 306 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: that as proof of residency. And I think I was 307 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: getting my social mailgion from my cousins. I was good 308 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: on that, and then I could use all those to 309 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: get other things that didn't go at all how I expected. 310 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: New York is not playing about their things after nine 311 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: to eleven, I'm not playing that, and they go through 312 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: the system. I believe California does a two now called 313 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: a point system. You need to meet the six point requirements. 314 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: If you have most of your things in order, they'll 315 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: work with you. The manager will. But I didn't have that, 316 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: Like my proof of residency wasn't enough. You know, anyone 317 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 1: I guess which is true, could just apply for food stamps. 318 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: So what did I do? I ended up taking a 319 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: week long trip to California on the Greyhound because that's 320 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: the only transportation with no ID. Came here homeless, by 321 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: the way. I had no wit to sleep, was actually 322 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: hustling to like keep money in my pocket, and didn't 323 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: have like friends at the time, you know, so I 324 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: had to get all my information from out here. So 325 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: my only advice is if you for anybody who's not 326 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: from here, if you can somehow if you have a 327 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: family member too, that can help prove your identity out 328 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: to say, your best thing is to rack up that 329 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: money and go out there and just get it done. 330 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: Off the way and Bloomba would come back. Because that 331 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: was like the one of the hardest stressful things to 332 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,239 Speaker 1: be on the bus that long. But that's just an 333 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: example of one of the things you have to go through. 334 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: It's it's you know, I thank you very much for 335 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: your time. And I was going to say I forgot 336 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: that my name is THEO by the way. I mean, 337 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: thank you very much for your time and your fight 338 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: on your experience. This is the crazy thing. This is 339 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: THEO Henderson from Windy and House. I thank you all 340 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: for listening and maybe again and meeting a lot of 341 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: understanding and I hope that you things get better for 342 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: you too. Is angel some mine? Thank you, thank you 343 00:19:06,720 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: very much. This is THEO Henderson from Wiedi and Howes. 344 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: I'm in on the ground with in the studio with 345 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: Shame Well. I'm telling us a little bit about what's 346 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: going on today. Well, the city and Sanitation. They have 347 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: these things called sweeps that they're doing where they're taking 348 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: all the stuff that the homeans have and just you 349 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: know some of them. They say they're gonna put it 350 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: away in a storage, but they don't give you a notice. 351 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: They just come and they take it all away from you. 352 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm in a place right now, but I was on 353 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: more Park and last week in the process of getting 354 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: my stuff, they came and I have five officers like 355 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: blocking me and they weren't letting me access myself, like 356 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: maybe on the sheets. But I have kids. I have presents, 357 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: you know for their birthdays and chepo. They came in 358 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 1: and they just took it on. But what's going on 359 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: here is we're putting a we're standing up to put 360 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: a stop to that because they want to. I don't. 361 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm not too familiar with all all that's going on, 362 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: like with the zones and all this other stuff. All 363 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: I know is that the police are rung for what 364 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: they do. It is injustice. I mean they have those 365 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: signs that stay protect and served on the side of 366 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: their car. They don't protect and they don't serve up 367 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: except this. Yeah, that's the only thing they served well 368 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: and well said, So how long have you before you 369 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 1: had got secure logic? How long have you been out 370 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: here out here in Studio City, Van, I start talking 371 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: about a year overall, three and a half years. I've 372 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: been on the streets since I went that the way 373 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: I went. You know what, what if you don't mind 374 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: me asking how did you end up out here? I was. 375 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: I had my job, my apartment. I had a lawsuit 376 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: going on with the management of my apartments because it 377 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: was bugget infested, it was broach infested, rat infested, and 378 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: I kept I was tired of my money coming out 379 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: of my pocket to try and take care of these 380 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: environments that keep coming and coming and coming, and the 381 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: management not recompensating me. So I try to go about 382 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: getting a lawsuit and in the process like I didn't 383 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: pay my rent, so they tried a big meat I 384 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: make them, you know. I follow it all the way 385 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: to the whole sixty days nineties and Jah Dane Corty 386 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,719 Speaker 1: went downhill and then that was up. Thank you, Shane. 387 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to build about a little bit, but thank 388 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: you for telling us your story. And I tip my 389 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: hat to you. I think we all could do something. 390 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: This is the primary example that Shane wants to make 391 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: sure that they horror for actions that happened to him 392 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: don't happen to anyone else. And I joined in the 393 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: same fight. This is theo Henderson from Winnie on the House, 394 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: and I thank you all for listening. Maybe we again 395 00:22:50,440 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: meet in the light of understanding. Hey Carl, you're just 396 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: colored a uh a shocking history. This is the niment 397 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: of course with lea an ours. So tell us what's 398 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: going on? You said, uh, someone got arrested. So we 399 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: are here today in Vana's California. We are blocking a 400 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: special enforcement cleanup zone, which is a really cool practice 401 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: where people's entire belongings and lives are being demolished by 402 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: LAS Sanitation with the enforcement of LAPD and the cooperation 403 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: of LASA. So we are here to reject that. Let's say, no, 404 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,120 Speaker 1: people will not be swept, we will not be destroying community. 405 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: Someone was arrested during one of those sweeps. It took 406 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: thirty cops UH to enforce it, and they tested the line. 407 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: They snatched somebody as they were walking away. We're very 408 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: upset about that, but we're also trying to hold a 409 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: few things. The fact that like we're here for a goal, 410 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: which is to stop these inhumane practices of sweeps and 411 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: to reject the says the special enforcement clean up films. 412 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: But you know, in the process their of their violent enforcement, 413 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: they did arrest somebody here. And how you stayed that 414 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: there were how many crops Again, there were over thirty 415 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: police officers that were there to enforce it. What they 416 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: were doing was they were sweeping someone's belonging to someone 417 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: that we knew, who had been shocked and was not 418 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: able to attend to think. They said he was not 419 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: able to be there. It was considered vacant and they 420 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: destroyed every day. And he was someone we knew, and 421 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: he said, this is he's in the hospital he's not, 422 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: and they said no, and they did everything that he 423 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: owned in cheat about eyes I was. I had a 424 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: similar thing happened to me over four years ago. I 425 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: was in ICU for several months due to me being stabbed, 426 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: and when I got back, all of my things were 427 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: taking a gone and when they told me to go 428 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: back down to proclaim it, none of my stuff was 429 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: there because it basically it was gone. So the bottom 430 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: line is this is something as a common practice what 431 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: the city does. But they don't care if you're not 432 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: not there or in the hospital or or having life 433 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: happen to you. They just take your things. So what 434 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: what's the next step in order for us to How 435 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: can citizens hold police, sanitation and the council members accountable 436 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: because it seems like they are really doing criminal activities 437 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: and they just get the support of some nimbies. We 438 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: need chops out of these cleanups entirely, like people don't 439 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: need to be swept away with a band of full 440 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: end like hair plus care plus meaning it's cops that 441 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: wucking horses. People need real services. We need health care, 442 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: we need people need to eat, people need to be 443 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: taken care of, and we need to take care of 444 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: each other, so cops need to not be care for that. 445 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: We right now under coronavirus, no one should be moved. 446 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: So it says goes against that, and they're sweeping people 447 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: up entirely, and it's a public health concern for everybody 448 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: that lives here. So we don't need the cops here 449 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: to do this, like we need more community support. It 450 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: was the city council that passes, actually, so they're the 451 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: ones that are Greekness, and they're the ones responsible for 452 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: this cruelty. They all are. They are all complicit in 453 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: the cruelty. And you know, what we know is brutality 454 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: to those own households and systems, and it's something that 455 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: affects all of us honestly, like we all lose with 456 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: these practices. All let's talk about just later. But if 457 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: I noticed there are times when citizens put things on 458 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: the ballot. What if we put something on the ballot 459 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: that would hamstring lab and the city council for preventing 460 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: them from going this kind of thing. Do you think 461 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: what's probable? Do you think anything is possible? Honestly, I 462 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: think if we're organized like today, we're stopping the sleep. 463 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, we need any prosy all changes. I think 464 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: it should be informed by unpouaced peoples and I literally 465 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: take direction from there because they know what's up. And 466 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: so yeah, I would say like those are those are 467 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: the answers are coming from and you gotta listen. Well said, 468 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: thank you very much, Carlos. I want to say as well, 469 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: this is the one of ongoing sweeps that has been 470 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: happening during coronavirus. People have reached out to me and 471 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: asked me the question, are best sweeps going on? I said, 472 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: they were going through it on during the pandemic. They've 473 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: just been sneaky about it. But now they're not all 474 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: opening being in the dark about it. They're being pretty 475 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: open and pretty defiant for it as well as the 476 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: police officers are targeting and taking pictures people who have 477 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: the temerity to stand up, so they really are not 478 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: concerned about the rights of the house people. They just 479 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: want to retaliate. So this is still Henderson FORMEDI on House. 480 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: I thank you all for listening. Maybe again meet and 481 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: the light of understanding. This is on House News. Seven 482 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: shelters are left open after twenty six city houseless shelters 483 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: were open during COVID nineteen, the remaining unhoused residents were 484 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: parceled out to the streets and at other remaining shelters. 485 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: In other news, Long Island anti on House protesters resist 486 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: the plan as to turning an old hotel into a 487 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: houseless family shelter. One resident has said, how is the 488 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: family shelter where families lodged near me are able to 489 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: have a shelter and get free stuff, whereas I don't 490 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: get any of those kind of things and I work 491 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: for a living. On a more violent note, the Guardian 492 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: Angels are up in membership and targeting the unhoused community. 493 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: Previous times, the Guardian Angels engage in vigilanteism and attacking 494 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: unhoused community members. In Venice Beach, there has been reports 495 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: of arsons against unhoused encampments. The police has not actively 496 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: investigated into these claims, despite repeated requests from the protests 497 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: and asking for council member Mike Bonnan to investigate into 498 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: the matter. The Los Angeles Times has reported that the 499 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: Advocate hotel program discriminates against disabled people. Rich people are 500 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: planning a crusade against shelters. The residents say they are scared. 501 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: They are worried about their children and their elderly. What 502 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: they did as a solution is they created the nonprofit 503 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: Racist Funds, hired a lawyer, and threatened the city to 504 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 1: sue if they created a houseless shelter in their communities. 505 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: One resident stated that crime has went up after tip 506 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: people were moved in from downtown. Nineteen unhoused people died 507 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: during the heat wave that swept the nation. To add 508 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: more complications to the matter, we've had several brushfires that's 509 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: made the breathing index much more perilous. The young house 510 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: has had to ingest the ash, the sweltering heat, and 511 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: as constant demands from services not sweeps Ktown for all 512 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: street watch and public shaming attempts to get the city 513 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: to open up cooling centers. They hastily opened up four 514 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: in far from places with poor information to be gavered. 515 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: As well as once it was opened and closed at 516 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: a short amount of time, they stated that there were 517 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: no one that attended these cooling centers. This is THEO 518 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: Henderson Conwitian House and I am on another episode. This 519 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: is a multi layered topic. Right now, the city has 520 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: shut down the emergency shelters that was necessary for the 521 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: young House in COVID nineteen. To that end, many of 522 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: the un housed had been thrown on premondiously on the street. 523 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: And then they have been giving a false narrative to 524 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Times and other media outlets and saying 525 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: that the grassroot organizations are lying about the abuse that's 526 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: going on in the streets with the brutal sweeps, especially 527 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: the special enforcement zones or they call sexies. So to 528 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: that end, the grassroot organizations like Streetwash and other affiliated 529 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: organizations have pulled their resources together and did what the 530 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: city did not. They got the other house off the 531 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: streets and gave them a place where they can go 532 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: and be in a lovely air conditioning room. I'm so greatful. 533 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm in an air conditioning room where they have their 534 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: own bathroom, their own shower. They don't have to feel 535 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: the indignities like they are criminal. They don't have to 536 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: feel the hostility of the nimby environment as well as 537 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: the hostility of the police and the city. To that end, 538 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: I have one of the people that are in the hotel. 539 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to her a little bit about it. Well, Jessica, 540 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: So tell me a little bit about what's going on? 541 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: I see you got a uh Elvis Presley fing here, 542 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: so m yes, and they put us here at the 543 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: motel and it helped out a lot. So how long 544 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: have you been here? Going on s believe five days? 545 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: So what happened? What? Why did you guys get a hotel? 546 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: Tell me about that. Well, we've been homeless, me and 547 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: my husban been. We've been homeless for going on three 548 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: years already, and we've been signed up for mini housing 549 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: and we haven't had any word on anything yet. I 550 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: I was panhandling at the moment when he uh run 551 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: in to ash like red pretty em gosh actually from realgay. Yes, yes, 552 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: And she's the one that talked to him about the motel. 553 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: And when he told me, I cried and I just 554 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: I I couldn't stop crying. Why not? Why why were 555 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: you crying? It had been over two and a half 556 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: months that I had took in the shower, you know it. 557 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 1: It had been a while since had slept on a bed, 558 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: you know. So it was grow overwhelming. It was eight. 559 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: I was so excited, Oh, like, can we go right now? 560 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: Can we go right now? You know? He's all, well, 561 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: we have to wait til they call us, and I 562 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: said okay, and they called us and they brought us 563 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 1: over here, and I haven't got out of bed since then. 564 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 1: I feel the same teams and cause I was living 565 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: in the park and I injured my ankle and so 566 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: I was on a walker when COVID nineteen half it, 567 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have no idea just to go 568 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 1: to the bathroom. It took me like a good two 569 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: hours to find a place to go to the bathroom. 570 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: And you can forget trying to get something to eat, 571 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: so I do know. So when I finally had a 572 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: place to just to stay, I was basically bed by myself. 573 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: And the idea to have the showers or you know, 574 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: to take a leisurely shower that I'm worrying about someone 575 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: kick is knocking on the door at a Starbucks telling 576 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 1: you you gotta out. Yeah, oh, and those kind of things. 577 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: So you were staying too, I'm not partite. You were 578 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: saying some of the difficulties as a young l uh, 579 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: young lady that you have when you're out on the street, 580 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: Like yah, you're uh h h uh your cycle. Let's 581 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: talk a little about that. Well, it's hard being you know, 582 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: chubby out in the world. You know, it's one thing, 583 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: but then to have your menstrel and you know, any 584 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: everybody knows that when a woman is chubby, her mentrel 585 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: is extra heavy, you know. So it's it was very 586 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,439 Speaker 1: very hard for me out there every month. And I'm 587 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,479 Speaker 1: not one that has a cycle for two three days. 588 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: I go for like eight days. And you know, lately 589 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: I've been having a lot of health issue. You know, 590 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: they recently found a a knob on my neck breast. 591 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: It it hurts a lot. So sometimes when I when 592 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: I do go take a bath, I soak my whole 593 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: body and h pure hot water and it just it 594 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: feels so good. I fallly was sleep in the back 595 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: teb and my husband keeps telling me you don't do that. 596 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: You can you can drown And tell him I don't 597 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: carry it. You release the pain so much. But yeah, 598 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: being out in the w out in the street and 599 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: having a minstrum and having dipiclets, like my ladies they've 600 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: gone so swollen. M Maybe I don't know why they 601 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: have been so swollen, like you like, it hurts just 602 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: to even walk, you know, from here to the store 603 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: to the liquor store. That's twoed out two not even 604 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: a block away. You know, I cried because it hurts. 605 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: It hurts so bad, so I can imagine, you know, 606 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: when I see other people that are out there chubby, 607 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: I it it breaks my heart cause it hurts. It hurts, 608 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, I tell you to, I'm not skinny like you. 609 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: I can't walk you know the way you can, you know. 610 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 1: And he he's the one that does all the running 611 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: around for us. And and I know it gets irritating 612 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: up being out in the heat. You know, it does, 613 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: it does. But like I tell him, I understand where 614 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 1: I'm coming from. Mighty to hurt, you know, they hurt 615 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: really bad. My whole body has heard it this past year. 616 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: This whole past year, my body has literally drained me 617 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: a lot. I don't know why. Like I'm scared to 618 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: keep going to the doctor and find out that I 619 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: have something seriously wrong with me, you know, cause it's 620 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm not home with my daughter. You know, my daughter 621 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: is my support. He's my everything. You know, He's the 622 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: one I tried to about everything. You know. But being 623 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: here in a county where I'm not from, it's even 624 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: more difficult, more difficult. But I'd rather be in this 625 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: county because Sacramento County does not help. I mean, where 626 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: are you you said, Sacramento County. Uh, how long have 627 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 1: you been out on the streets? Three years? What caused 628 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: you guys to be on the street cause you mentioned 629 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: a little bit about it. Can you tell the audience? Well, 630 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: I met him at Union Station. I was on a 631 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: four hour delay. Oh okay, and I was on my 632 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: way back to Sacramento and I met him there and 633 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: from the moment i'm I was like, i'm'a come back 634 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: to see you and He's like, okay. And I told 'em. 635 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: But I'm the type that I I pro I come 636 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: back to see you or I'm not gonna just see 637 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: you for a couple of days and then they can 638 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: go back. That's not me. So I came and having 639 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: with s. You know, I haven't let them since then. 640 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: I mean I go home and I go and I 641 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: visit my kids for a week or two or sometimes 642 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: a month, and then I come back. But yeah, I 643 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: haven't been back, like to stay for good. You know. 644 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,479 Speaker 1: I I love Alat County. They help the homeless a lot, 645 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: you know. There there's like the refreshed spot is what 646 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, where you can go and shower and 647 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: wash up. And I mean during Christmas season they give 648 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: you so many pr Christmas presents on Skid Road and 649 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: over there Inscicramento. They don't do that. They do not 650 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: do that at all. I you you're correct. One of 651 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: the things that what people that don't know for the 652 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: audience is this is due to the active people. It's 653 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: not the city that does a lot of these things. 654 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: It's the people that are branch through organizations that see 655 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: an injustice bank the city and the city their answer, unfortunately, 656 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,479 Speaker 1: it is police violence, police harassment, and they side with 657 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: the business owners and saying that unhoused people are criminals. 658 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 1: So a lot of places like Street Watch dsa Los 659 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: Angeles Community Action Network which is downtown is responsible for 660 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 1: every Sunday for food, k Town for All that comes 661 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: out Saturdays and does outreach, Polo Pantry which just deals 662 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,479 Speaker 1: with the food distribution areas and different hubs all over 663 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, California. And I think she's expanding. I'm Melissa Asadero. 664 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,240 Speaker 1: These programs are so epivotal and without them there would 665 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: not be a lot of those things that you're talking about. 666 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: Because they see a need, they keep pushing the fire 667 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: to the city, and the city their responses is always 668 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: more special enforcement zones, more criminality as well as more 669 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: UH hostilities. So that's just one of the things that's 670 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: very heartwarming to hear that you you guys are getting 671 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: more than the Sacramento County. You mentioned your husband has 672 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: some challenges that he can't come with you with UH 673 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: back in back there. What's going on there? Well, cause 674 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: he's on parole, mkay, and so he has rules and 675 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: regulations and he's not out of allowed out of out 676 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: of county yet. So that's why I come here and 677 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: I stay here with him. But you know, I just 678 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: can't wait. I'm gonna be going back and picking up 679 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: My daughter gave a us a car so we can 680 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: at least live in it's a little sub and so 681 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: w hopefully you know, when I come back, he's you know, 682 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 1: he's determined to do Postmates, you know, and maybe lived 683 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: or something, you know, cause it's it's a two thousand 684 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: and four vehicle, so it's it's a good car. You know. 685 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: I want him to get on the boss so we 686 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 1: can get somewhere and like cause just well it's difficult 687 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: if he has a record or operation because they judged 688 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: against him, so that's awesome. May not always be his fault. 689 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: What would be a better uh beside the car? Because 690 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: that makes breaks my heart to hear that what would 691 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: be better? What would be a better way to help you? 692 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: Which because most of the people that have been accepted 693 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: hotels with myself included, uh, refuse to go to shelters. 694 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I I know obviously no, the 695 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: shelters is not the uh answer. So what's another best 696 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: way of us can help you? But do you d 697 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: would you would be open to affordable housing? Yes? Yes, La, 698 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: I we been because I'm from Sacramento County and my 699 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: points for high they were supposed to get me an 700 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: emergency housing. That was three years ago, and you know 701 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm still on the list and you know I've been waiting. 702 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: So I I've been with people's concerned with ASA and 703 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm all I can do is shit here 704 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: and wait, m you know, uh do you have sextion in? No? 705 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 1: I don't. Oh well see cause of the waiting lists, 706 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: of course. But yeah, I too had been waiting. I 707 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: was on section eight and I'm still on section eight 708 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: and you know I understand COVID nineteen makes things a 709 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: little bit challenging, but prior to that, it's was it's 710 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: it's been a r it's been a uh a bumpy road. 711 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: Yes it has. Yeah, yes it has. U uh So 712 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: you know, supportive housing would be a good thing for 713 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: you as well as I have you gone t been 714 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 1: able to go to the doctor to check on other 715 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: the health issues they told me to go see, especially 716 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: but I'm very scared cause I don't have my daughter 717 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: with me. Uh yess and Bertie might medical just got 718 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: transferred this month to Los Angeles County. Mkay. So now 719 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: I I told my husband I can go to the 720 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: doctor now. But you know, I'm scared because I know 721 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,479 Speaker 1: my body, m and I know there is something wrong 722 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: with me, and I'm just I'm scared to hear it 723 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: without my daughter being there. You know, I understand that 724 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: I have my husband, but it's not the same. I 725 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: understand my daughter. It's always been very supportive of me, 726 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: you know. And my son just came home from his 727 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: warmon mission. Oh and so yeah, so he has he 728 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,439 Speaker 1: makes sure I e like he'll send me Postmates every 729 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: other day. Mm, you know, says Mama. Are you hungry, 730 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 1: and I told him yes, But you know, it breaks 731 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: my heart to ot to depend on my kids, cause 732 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 1: I'm their parent. They should My son's twenty four. Well 733 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: it's back. Sometimes you your s your children. I would 734 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: have to look after your parents because that's you looked 735 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,919 Speaker 1: after them when they were growing up. So I'm sure 736 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: they don't feel the grudge by it. They wanna make 737 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: sure you'd do it okay and be around for their uh, 738 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: for their children. Yeah, they're good kids. I they they 739 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: did a good job. Their dad did a good job 740 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: raising them. Oh that's good. Yes'm I was in their life, 741 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: but I went to prison when they were young, and 742 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: when night came out, it was just I went haywire 743 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: after that. So mm mm, you know they my daughter 744 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: raised my son, actually you my youngest son, and she's 745 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: she did a real good job. I give my daughter 746 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: that credit. She did a real good job, you know. 747 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 1: H He went to his Mormon mission, and I'm proud 748 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: of my kids. He's a Mormon. Yes, yes, well we're 749 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 1: all Mormon, but I'm not active Mormon right now because 750 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: I knew of the Mormons, and I was going to 751 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: college in Utah, and you know, I just when you 752 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 1: said the Morm'm like, wow, this is all the way 753 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: out here. So do you guys have like you guys 754 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: still go back to Utah or no? No, no, no, 755 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 1: he just like I said, he just came home from 756 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: his Mormon mission. But my other kids they don't. They 757 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: don't practice it. Yeah they got older and you know 758 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 1: they didn't. They don't practice it no more. So what 759 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: talents do you have when you have any special skills 760 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 1: or anything that you do that that you do when 761 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: you have to decompress or take the stress off. I 762 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: love cooking and cleaning, Oh my god, but a little 763 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: too much. But you know, yes, I love cooking cleaning. 764 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: I've been paid to clean, like I can clean eighty acres. 765 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: I clean as before and you know that was a lot. 766 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: It took me, you know, a week to clean it 767 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,359 Speaker 1: and that was a lot, you know. But I love 768 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: I did yard works when I was in prison. I 769 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: used to work you know, yard crew and in the 770 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: main kitchen. So when it comes to cooking and cleaning, 771 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: I love it. You know, that's my meed time. I 772 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: always tell my husband, I'm sorry, but I need my 773 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: me time, Like this is my me time right now. 774 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: We all need it. And that's one of the things 775 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 1: that I always try to do to explain to people 776 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: is like being unhoused doesn't mean you lose everything about yourself. 777 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: Like when I started this podcast, Oh, I'm so surprised 778 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 1: that you could. I said, I didn't become a moron 779 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: or I didn't become uh you know, I am disabled, 780 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,760 Speaker 1: But you know I'm more of it just being on housed. 781 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 1: I'm more of them being structurally in challenge. And if 782 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: you don't see all you see us as a problem 783 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,919 Speaker 1: to be put away or sit in a distance way, 784 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: or you listening to those letters from NIMBI people, which 785 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: council members do, you dehumanize us and you make sure 786 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: we're not human so you can justify horrific things. That 787 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: is reminiscent of my own ancestry of slavery, that's reminiscent 788 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: of the Nazi era, that's reminiscent of any time you 789 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: oppress a certain slice of humanity. And I want to 790 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 1: let our audience members know that what would be I 791 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: always I asked this, what would be a good way 792 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 1: to help you? What would you like to do to 793 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: help another person? What would you what message would you 794 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: like to send to the other audience about your situation. 795 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: The best thing I can tell people is just to 796 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: be to be themselves. It doesn't matter if there's someone 797 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,240 Speaker 1: from the law, someone from the the you know, someone 798 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: high power, then you just no one's superior than nobody. 799 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: You always be true to yourself. Don't ever change, you 800 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: know it, even if you're homeless or not. Don't ever change. 801 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: And a lot of people are rude to us, you know, 802 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 1: and a lot of people, a lot of people are 803 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: not you know, just the other day, I went to 804 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: go panhandle and within not even two hours, I had 805 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: made like twenty dollars, you know, And I was I'm 806 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: so grateful for the people that do help out there, 807 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: because there is people that do care. They there is 808 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 1: people like are And my sign said hungry. You know, 809 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 1: I was hoping to get food, not money, cause I 810 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 1: can't get up and go I don't. You know, it's 811 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 1: hard to get up and go to the stars. So 812 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, I I didn't wasn't asking for money. I 813 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,240 Speaker 1: was asking for food. And you know, there is people 814 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: out there that do care and that do respect us, 815 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 1: and that they they do, you know, talk to us 816 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: at the same level. They're at. They don't degrade us 817 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: and they don't down down look at us. Have you 818 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:06,280 Speaker 1: had any police bothering you guys or no? No good good. 819 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 1: The only thing they when they do bother us, they 820 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: tell us we can't charge, and they make us leave. 821 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: Like wherever we would try to charge our equipment of 822 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: the street, okay, they would run us off immediately, they 823 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: would run us off. You know, how would they know 824 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: that you would you charge? Did someone tell them? Well, 825 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: because we would go, like wherever there's an outlet to charge, 826 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: wherever the trees, yeah, okay, whether there's trees with lights 827 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 1: on them, you would go and charge. And right away, 828 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: you guys gotta go. You can't charge there. So it's 829 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: hard out there when you want to charge, you know, 830 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: or when if you had a doctor's appointment that you 831 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: needed the phone to be charged and you can't do that. Yeah, 832 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 1: they didn't don't care. They don't care. That's one of 833 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: the main problems in LA is that the charging for 834 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: the homeless is the charging. They run us off right away, 835 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: you know. And it's sad because I've seen people on 836 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: monitors that if they don't charge their name, they go 837 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 1: to jail. Well, they go to jail. I've seen it. 838 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: I've seen it. What the help of the police not 839 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 1: having you have a place to charge it. So this 840 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: is a whole six cycle. We have a blaming and 841 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 1: shaming society and this is the part where police in 842 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: the city take their hands into this. And I hope 843 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: more of our citizens understand the unintended consequences and when 844 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: we blindly believe everything that the police do that they're 845 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: just not doing their job. They're doing a lot of 846 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,839 Speaker 1: harm to society and we need to change that conversation. 847 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,439 Speaker 1: This is THEO Henderson from Weedian House and I hope 848 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: we learned something today and I hope we again meet 849 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 1: in the light of understanding. Thank you very much. This 850 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: is THEO Henderson from weedi in House. We're here in 851 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, California, at hotel at a hotel that grassroots 852 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 1: have put together to do what the city won't do. 853 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: The city has been tasked due to the COVID nineteen 854 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,399 Speaker 1: to house the unhoused in order for them to get 855 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: a chance to get some housing, some permanent solution. And 856 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: lately in the past month and a half, actually two 857 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: months now, that the city has been shutting down the 858 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: shelters where the young house were staying and unceremoniously putting 859 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 1: them on the streets. The grass roots like Street Watch, 860 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 1: Round Game, Ktown for all other organizations that are volunteer based, 861 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: they do not get a paycheck like the city does, 862 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: have pulled money together to keep the young housed that 863 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,479 Speaker 1: they have been targeted by those sex Special Enforcement Zone 864 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: squeaks to get a place to stay, a place to 865 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 1: take a shower, a air conditioned place where they don't 866 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: burn up all day and have no water and no 867 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: shade and any kind of uh uh shelter during these 868 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 1: horrific forest fires times high heat and the other uh 869 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: elemental uh distresses. I am here to interview Angel who 870 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 1: has a his own story, and I would like to 871 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 1: hear florid uh hear about it without for realdu Angel fulcome? 872 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: I yeah, So tell me a little bit about your story. 873 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: What what's what? How did you get to come on 874 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 1: the streets? Well, I mean I've been a vol you know, 875 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: a little miscreated since I was a kid, you know. 876 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: And how long have you been in prison? Uh? The 877 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 1: first time three years, the second time fifteen years? And 878 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: I just recently finished during uh two years would have sentence. So, uh, 879 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: did you get out early due to COVID release? Mm? No, oh, 880 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 1: I mean I just barely did a violation and they 881 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: now they don't let they're not letting us out in 882 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: the county event. In fact, everything is flu lockdown, every 883 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: module lockdown. You can't go to quarter list you've had 884 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, you know what I mean. So if you 885 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: haven't had it, they pretty much quarantine you and you're 886 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 1: just stuck in limbo. Dang, you know, so it's what 887 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: if you're time you released there, or are the judge 888 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: or found new evidence that you're innocent, you can't go 889 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: and buz I don't know that. I mean I've seen 890 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,720 Speaker 1: people get arrested, uh for possession and robberies and stuff 891 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: like that, and they sight them Ouland and others they 892 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: don't mm. You know, but once you go into the 893 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 1: county jail, you're pretty much in limbo. Like you wait 894 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 1: till they call you andy. I mean, you you can 895 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: miss court four or five times and you don't you 896 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 1: you have any these guys that haven't even bitch preliminary 897 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: hearing and or even their arrayment, their arraiments supposed to 898 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 1: be within three days and they haven't been to raiment 899 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 1: in about two months. You know, so is it? How 900 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 1: is that legal? Just? You know, is that that I? 901 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: You know, I told that to the judge and but 902 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 1: the judge told me was that the s the Seventh 903 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 1: Circuit Court handed down the decision saying that they could 904 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: extend due process to a reasonable amount of time. And 905 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: that kind of made me mad. And I challenged the 906 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 1: cork and told him and go, look, I'm on parole 907 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 1: and I want an ankle monitor and I can't charge 908 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: my my uh device because I'm homeless. So you're holding 909 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 1: me accountable for my responsibilities to my terms of conditions, 910 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 1: but you're not holding the state accountable. How is that 911 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 1: even fair? Right? You know, it was good for the gouts, 912 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 1: is good for the gender? Right? Come on now? And 913 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 1: he agreed and they gave me one eighty but he 914 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 1: suspended sixty days because I had merit, so he gave 915 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 1: me a break. Oh you know. So one of the 916 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: things too, is like difficulties living on the street. One 917 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 1: of the difficulties I was talking with your wife about 918 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 1: is like the charging the uh the charging situation. How 919 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: are you able to uh did you have any challenges 920 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 1: trying to find the charge for the eco monitor or 921 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 1: anything like that. Yeah, everywhere we win. I mean I 922 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 1: call him electric watering holes because everybody who is uh 923 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: it was high like that, you know, it congregates. We 924 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 1: all get together and everybody has multiple device like cell phone, Bluetooth, 925 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 1: speaker chargers, portables and flashlights and all kinds of weird 926 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:12,399 Speaker 1: everybody comes up with. So excuse the language, but when 927 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: we're together, there's only so much we can do. So 928 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 1: we are we pretty much just camp out. And with 929 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen, either security or PD comes around and 930 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 1: they say we have to go. So it was damn 931 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 1: near impossible to charge my device. So I mean we 932 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: would tap into the light poles, you know what I mean, 933 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: and and and pretty much steal the the trigity from 934 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: the city. But even that gets us in trouble too, 935 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,879 Speaker 1: you know, so sanitation coming around and kicking everybody out, 936 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: they you know what I mean, And you know, it's 937 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 1: a big risks, it's a hassle. You can't do it. 938 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 1: Parole says that should go to the to the pro 939 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,879 Speaker 1: office to charge, and you can't do that because they're 940 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: shut down. You can't go to the police station to 941 00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 1: charge because it's shut down, so what's left, you know, 942 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 1: And next you know, I'm being violated for it. And 943 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,239 Speaker 1: it's it's uh, people like the one that place is here, Yeah, 944 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 1: have actually be giving me Now, I'm good, I'm mean compliance, 945 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, so I don't have to worry about it. 946 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 1: But my prolobs still doesn't know I'm in a room, 947 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: so that might give me in trouble to see you. 948 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 1: It's it's like good, damned if I do, and the 949 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,439 Speaker 1: damned if I don't. This is the uh unspoken things 950 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 1: that people don't understand about what parole violations and uh 951 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: we have a hard time understanding the nuances and how 952 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 1: the city doesn't help. They sometimes harm because you're trying 953 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 1: to do the right thing and and and you can't 954 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 1: do the right thing cause there's no places for you 955 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 1: to go. Like, Uh, I was mentioning to your wife 956 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 1: about my health challenges and the difficulty just having the 957 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: phone to charge. What if I have I shift you 958 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 1: exactly cause you know, I have uh complications and I 959 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: can't charge. I was at the park and I used 960 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 1: to charge my phone at the park, and they uh 961 00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 1: got winded back and they didn't like it. So what 962 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: they would do is they would block the phones and 963 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 1: then UH. When I aksed the director at the time, 964 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 1: they told me to go to the library, and I 965 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 1: told her the library doesn't open in twenty four hours. 966 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 1: That's not their problem. They just didn't want d The 967 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 1: idea is they have such a embedded anti unhoused sentiment 968 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,360 Speaker 1: about it, and they use the same UH things like 969 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 1: your criminality and things like that to justify UH doing 970 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: the things that they do. They unplug and cut off 971 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 1: the power for the UH the other part of the 972 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: park and things like that. That's what they did in 973 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:34,359 Speaker 1: city Hall because right there on First On, but it's 974 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 1: down to downtown. It lay on First and Maine, and 975 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,879 Speaker 1: between UH it's on First between Maine and Spring. There's 976 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 1: a little park, okay, and they have light sockets throughout 977 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 1: the whole park and then along the s the sidewalk 978 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 1: when the lights come on, the sockets are active as well. 979 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 1: So we would people would start plugging in there. And 980 00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 1: then at city Hall there was like three out lists 981 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,439 Speaker 1: that were good in them all downstairs there was two 982 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,359 Speaker 1: so people would know about these places and we would 983 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 1: go but little by little, the city started cutting the 984 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,839 Speaker 1: wires to those to those sockets, so nobody can charge 985 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: your devices and nobody can charge their things, you know, 986 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 1: And eventually would go to plug in poom no longer work. 987 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 1: And then Nick, you know, PD's coming around talking about 988 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 1: what if you plug in, we're gonna get you for 989 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 1: trash passing, you know, And I would I would be like, well, 990 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 1: arrest me there, you know, and see this is the 991 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 1: And I say this to the mainstream media because main 992 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 1: street media takes at face value what the city says. 993 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: Go and investigate these things for yourself and see the 994 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 1: lives that they're doing. Maybe we can make some changes 995 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 1: on it. Because I had similar something like that too. 996 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 1: I would go to the train station and try to 997 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,919 Speaker 1: charge there, and then all of a sudden here comes 998 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 1: cops talking about do you have a bus pass or 999 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be using that bus pass to go 1000 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 1: or to to and fron not to stay on the platform. 1001 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,439 Speaker 1: So they would do And I've seen other und house 1002 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 1: people using charging their phones on there too. Yeah right 1003 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: there on Chinatown and Union Station, they used to have 1004 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 1: some spots too for people. Yeah, cut they turned them off. 1005 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 1: Now everybody's going to Western and vermon Or Western in 1006 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,439 Speaker 1: in that in that area, as soon as the train 1007 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: pulls up, you'll see a bunch of people along or 1008 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 1: in the Southwest section, the Southwest station. They got one there, 1009 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 1: and then they had one near They had one in Chinatown. 1010 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 1: They had one in Union Station, and they had another 1011 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: one in Chinatown Lincoln Heights that they used to have 1012 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 1: one over there right off there. And in Chinatown. I 1013 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 1: used to go to you go, you go into Chinatown, 1014 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: you go to the second floor, and these apartments these, 1015 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, and and there's one plug that works. And 1016 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 1: security wouldn't really trip on me or anybody as long 1017 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 1: as we weren't smoking or doing drugs or acting a food, 1018 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 1: as long as we clean up after ourselves. But once 1019 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen kicked it even, they started kicking us out, 1020 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 1: you know. And so I moved to Boyle Heights and 1021 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 1: there was this there's there's actually this mechanic shop where 1022 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 1: the guide told you go look, once we close, he goes, 1023 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 1: you're welcome to use the socket right here. I'll leave 1024 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 1: the power on because the power is from the outside. 1025 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 1: He goes, I'll leave the power on once the once 1026 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 1: once we once we shut down, just clean up after yourself, man, 1027 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 1: and and make sure that nobody messes with the you know. 1028 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 1: And I told the man, man, don't be here to 1029 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 1: watch dog, you know. And and I did that for 1030 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 1: a minute, and well my wife came womb I didn't 1031 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 1: go back to Port the Heights. But I mean, that's 1032 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: always really like a last like if you know, last resort, 1033 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 1: that would be where I would go. Or further down 1034 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: into the valley North Hollywood. I used to that, this 1035 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 1: is one of my secrets. They used to have further 1036 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 1: down at the end, they used to have a spot. 1037 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 1: But the thing is now they got the security patrolling, 1038 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 1: so you can't really do it. Or if you have 1039 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 1: noticeyc on the benches, like if you go to like 1040 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 1: ulsh and Western, they got places there, but they it's 1041 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 1: it looks like it's locked, like all you have to 1042 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 1: do is pull it and you can go in and 1043 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 1: and charge it from there too. So there are different places. 1044 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 1: But I notice more and more the city has banded 1045 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 1: together with the nimbies and they they're shutting it, all 1046 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 1: of it off and making them everything. And then when 1047 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 1: I noticed when main street media confronts them, they lie. 1048 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: They make it sound like that they're not. It is everybody, 1049 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 1: everybody is. It seems to me, it seems like they're 1050 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,640 Speaker 1: hurting us, like they're shutting us down for certain places 1051 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 1: and booming us more and more in a condensed area, 1052 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, kind of like what they 1053 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 1: got going in Sacramento. Sacramento, it is illegal to be homeless. 1054 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 1: You got you have to either be on the island. 1055 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 1: If not, you get arrested. And from what my wife 1056 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 1: tells me, the island is a dangerous place. Then the 1057 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 1: cops don't go in there. And basically, this is what 1058 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 1: they're trying to do here. I've been noticing that. And 1059 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 1: the Olympics is coming up too. That's what it is. 1060 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 1: That they don't want the world to see the homeless 1061 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: problem because it embarrasses them. Well, if it embarrasses you, 1062 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 1: well guess what, why don't you do something about it? 1063 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 1: And if it embarrasses you, imagine how it feels. So 1064 01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 1: people that's living it, that's let's up. You can go 1065 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 1: home and put it. Then go and lay our hair 1066 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 1: down and turn the light off. But we being unhoused 1067 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 1: is a twenty four hour proposition. It's a moment to 1068 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 1: moment situation. No one delights in being harassed by the 1069 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 1: police or terrorized by some nimby that don't like unhouse people, 1070 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: that think all unhouse people a drug addictscept are going 1071 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 1: to attack them and things like that. Than me. I 1072 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 1: became homeless because I went to prison. I lost my 1073 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 1: family and lost my home. I lost everything. I got divorced. 1074 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 1: I can't really go with any family members. I'm a 1075 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 1: really proud man, real talk. I got a lot of pride. 1076 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: It takes a lot for me to even ask somebody 1077 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 1: for ten cents. You know, my wife, she has no 1078 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 1: business being out here on the street. She has family, 1079 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 1: she has a home, but she's out here because I'm 1080 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 1: out here, and it's unfair to her. But man, dude, 1081 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 1: I had already got a job to this place called 1082 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 1: the Center for Employment Opportunity to see new program that 1083 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: opened up. It's kind of like Chrystalist, but better. These 1084 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 1: people actually help you get a job, and they give 1085 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 1: you incentives. They stay with you throughout the year to 1086 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 1: make sure that you stay employed. Right. The problem was 1087 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 1: that when COVID nineteen kicked in, they shut down the program. 1088 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 1: So they're went there went my job, and I'm a 1089 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 1: skilled worker. But I mean, I'll fit burgers or whatever. 1090 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 1: But it's not that easy for one of us to 1091 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,880 Speaker 1: get off the street. Like, for instance, I'm divorced and 1092 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 1: I was getting GR and, I was getting foodstamp. Well, 1093 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 1: they suspended them because they in their records it shows 1094 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,320 Speaker 1: that I'm still married. So they're saying that my wife, 1095 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 1: my ex wife, is responsible for me. Wait a minute, 1096 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 1: she has my child. All the hell is she gonna 1097 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:43,439 Speaker 1: be responsible for me? Okay? And not only that, even 1098 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 1: if you're married, you could still apply separately from foodstamp. 1099 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 1: So how are you gonna suspend mine because in your 1100 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 1: records it says I'm still married. But here's the thing too, 1101 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 1: because I had I applied for gr too, it's very 1102 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 1: difficult to try to appeal the decisions. Why the offices 1103 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 1: are closed, you can't get not there. It took me 1104 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 1: like over six hours calling back because the lines are busy. 1105 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 1: This is a mess that not even in order for 1106 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 1: me to get the paperwork they require, I need the 1107 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 1: money because they're charging me down near one hundred dollars 1108 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 1: just to get the paper. And I can't get the 1109 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 1: paper without the money. So I eat gr and give 1110 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,720 Speaker 1: you money. So I'm like, in a bad situation, what 1111 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,640 Speaker 1: do I do? Well, rob somebody or guess what I'm 1112 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 1: not gonna do that. You know, I'm trying to walk this. 1113 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be as honorable as possible. But being 1114 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 1: out here, you know, you kind of told that line. 1115 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,720 Speaker 1: You know, you see something and you look at it 1116 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 1: and you're like, man, if I take that like an 1117 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 1: sell it and come up on, you know, it's a 1118 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,760 Speaker 1: quick come up. But I refuse to seek that low 1119 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 1: man it. Just because I'm homeless doesn't mean that I 1120 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 1: have to loader my standards as a human being. You know, 1121 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 1: put people out there like the city officials, they they 1122 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: don't see that. They don't see people as individuals, absolutely not. 1123 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 1: They look at they look at the NBC streets of 1124 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,640 Speaker 1: shade that listen to the MB's talking about threatenings a 1125 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 1: sou them and then they do these horrific kind of 1126 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 1: uh holocaust kind of horrific actions. So this is one 1127 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 1: of the ways to help you w if would you 1128 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 1: choose housing or shelter, what would be your uh choice? 1129 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 1: See to me, shelters are are They're okay, but they're 1130 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,560 Speaker 1: not a solution because shelters they only give you a clot, 1131 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 1: a blanket, and a warm meal. They don't really go 1132 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 1: out to find you housing. Now, the one that I 1133 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 1: was in, it was called excuse me, it was called 1134 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 1: that a Pueblo. It opened up. It was kind of 1135 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 1: like the Mayor's Project. Yeah, I was one of the 1136 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 1: first forty five that was in that program. Oh okay, 1137 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,919 Speaker 1: and everybody that has been in that program that got 1138 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,680 Speaker 1: there with me m have already got either an SRO 1139 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 1: or or or low income housing. These people that are 1140 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 1: actually doing something. My problem was that there was a 1141 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 1: conflict between my parole officer and them. But cause they 1142 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't verify that I I was there, my prole officer 1143 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 1: was like, look, if I can't be here, neither can't you. 1144 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 1: And she removed me from there. She violated me for 1145 01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 1: a curfew violation. And ever since then, I've been unstable. 1146 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 1: I haven't been able to find a permanent housing and 1147 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm still I'm on the records, but I'm not. They 1148 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,440 Speaker 1: gotta do paperwork, but they haven't. And it's been it's 1149 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 1: the you know, the people from LASA and the people 1150 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 1: from People's Concern pretty much have me in them. Okay, 1151 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 1: one of them. They have me on their roster. But 1152 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,480 Speaker 1: I've been dropped mm but I'm still active. How is 1153 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 1: that even possible? Okay, So why am I not housed? 1154 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,520 Speaker 1: So why haven't I been? So you're falling through the 1155 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: cracks through to bureaucratic bulls basic basically a bureaucratic craft 1156 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 1: that has been set in from the thanks to the 1157 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 1: industrious work of a parole officer who coul you could 1158 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 1: have been in house and they could have been able 1159 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,320 Speaker 1: to make you compliance to whatever you needed to do 1160 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 1: in a house. So and that's it. This was an 1161 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 1: ego trip along with bureaucratic nonsense, right and the new 1162 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 1: agine I have. She she's pretty lenient as to my 1163 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 1: curfews and this, and that she hasn't violating me over 1164 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 1: I mean she violates me over over actual things I do. 1165 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,880 Speaker 1: So sh you know I I I owe that woman 1166 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 1: a lot. But she's also offered to put me in 1167 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 1: this place called your writing house. I'll be kicked out 1168 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 1: of there because it it's they going back to your 1169 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 1: writing house is like going back in custody, right, And 1170 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,200 Speaker 1: I tell her, well, you might as well locked my 1171 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 1: back up because you're basically putting me back in jail 1172 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 1: and and your writing house isn't for me because they 1173 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 1: don't help you to get housing. They just they just 1174 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 1: maintain you for six months. Once Step Funny runs out, 1175 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 1: you're out. So I'll be back out on the street 1176 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 1: with no solution, you know. I mean, I don't get 1177 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 1: me wrong. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm able to work. 1178 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:41,640 Speaker 1: I wanna work, you know, but there's other things that 1179 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 1: I need to be responsible for out here on the street, 1180 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 1: like taking care of my property, you know. And and 1181 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 1: and if I'm not there with all these weirdos running around, 1182 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,440 Speaker 1: it's it's it's there. You got a lot of very 1183 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 1: unstable people out there, and sometimes you think they're cool, 1184 01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they've channel Dragula, you 1185 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean, And and and and and you 1186 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 1: realize that they're kind of like out the Rocker and 1187 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 1: you realize, WHOA, My home was crazy, you know. But 1188 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,240 Speaker 1: you gotta watch yourself, and you gotta watch the people 1189 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 1: you love. You can't just leave them hanging. So it's 1190 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,919 Speaker 1: a difficult thing for us to do. And sh Yeah, 1191 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 1: shelters are not really helpful because you have a lot 1192 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 1: of those those mentally unstable people. So if you get 1193 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 1: into a fight in there, somebody tries to do something, 1194 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 1: you take something, it's it's gonna it's gonna be a problem. 1195 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 1: There's always fights breaking out. Their pee's always there. I mean, 1196 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen people get killed inside the shelter 1197 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,760 Speaker 1: and and they don't realize they're dead until like it's 1198 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 1: time for them to clean up, and they're like, oh shit, 1199 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,360 Speaker 1: we got a dead body here, you know what I mean, 1200 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:48,920 Speaker 1: And and they treat it like if it's nothing. They 1201 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 1: just they have no respect for the for for for 1202 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 1: even the deceased. They just treat them as us. Okay, 1203 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,439 Speaker 1: well just got kick out the garbage, and it's it's 1204 01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 1: not right now. At Pueblo and the new and this 1205 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:04,360 Speaker 1: coming up the bridge, now, those places they actually do 1206 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 1: care more than than the city does. You know, they 1207 01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 1: actually do more. So you know, you know, I I 1208 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,840 Speaker 1: I I commend them for that, you know, but I'm 1209 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,160 Speaker 1: falling through the cracks in that program. I'm in that program, 1210 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,800 Speaker 1: but I'm not falling into the cracks. This was a 1211 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 1: blessing for us. They came in and asked me, actually, 1212 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, if they offered me some water, and I 1213 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 1: asked or if she was the one that was hanging 1214 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,720 Speaker 1: in our rooms MM, and actually said yes, And they see, 1215 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, we're in the room for two nights and 1216 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,080 Speaker 1: extended me a third and then gave me three more. 1217 01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what the hell you? My wife and 1218 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,640 Speaker 1: they are also currently are working. These are again I 1219 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 1: gonna point out for ground Gay, these people are not 1220 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:47,000 Speaker 1: paid staff. That these people are volunteers. They're working to 1221 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 1: get more money for you guys there. That's that's what 1222 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,840 Speaker 1: that's the irony of it, because what they offer for 1223 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,600 Speaker 1: you is uh jail cell or a criminalization or this. 1224 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 1: So this is what you're city tax dollars is at 1225 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 1: work at. So yeah, and these people were actually coming 1226 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:10,920 Speaker 1: out of pocket pocket. I met Ian because he was 1227 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:15,599 Speaker 1: recording when when they did the first clean up and 1228 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,360 Speaker 1: my wife wasn't there. She had left and I was 1229 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,320 Speaker 1: by myself and we had a lot of stuff. So 1230 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 1: Ian comes around and he's recording, and I got mad 1231 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 1: and I told him like, hey, I didn't give you 1232 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 1: permission to record. Turn off your damn camera, bro. And 1233 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,120 Speaker 1: I snapped at him and he did, you know what 1234 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 1: I mean? But then that's when I realized he goes, yeah, 1235 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 1: it's just that we're filming that what the city is 1236 01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:37,720 Speaker 1: about to do. And I'm like, what the city is 1237 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,800 Speaker 1: about to do? So then when he told me, I 1238 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 1: was like, So I started packing up what I could 1239 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,559 Speaker 1: that day. I had to let go at least half 1240 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 1: of my property in hers and and I was I mean, 1241 01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 1: I made like four trips, and I was trying to 1242 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,800 Speaker 1: get everything out, and PD was rushing me, threatening to 1243 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,200 Speaker 1: arrest me. And I'm arguing with PD, and Ian came 1244 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:03,439 Speaker 1: up and and help me move the first the first 1245 01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,200 Speaker 1: trip I went, and then he stayed behind to watch 1246 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,680 Speaker 1: my stuff as I came back for the rest. My 1247 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 1: son had got assaulted at the same time. Was he 1248 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,200 Speaker 1: was seventy eleven. So now my attention is split up 1249 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,559 Speaker 1: with my son being not only assaulted, but they were 1250 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,160 Speaker 1: arresting him for it. Okay, because it was with the 1251 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,640 Speaker 1: clerk at seventy eleven, which still has a job, by 1252 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 1: the way, And I'm over here trying to give my 1253 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,200 Speaker 1: stuff and I'm arguing with this cop. Now the cop 1254 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 1: already has his hand on the gun, and I'm already 1255 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,200 Speaker 1: getting aggressive, like you know, I got the case of 1256 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,639 Speaker 1: the bukets now like, run it, then pull your gun 1257 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,280 Speaker 1: and shoot. If not, I'm gonna casey with your own gun. 1258 01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,679 Speaker 1: Pull like real talk. I'm making thrests to this officer 1259 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 1: now and hm, I'm telling him, you know, I'll be 1260 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 1: damned if you take my You ain't taking my stuff, 1261 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, you know what I mean. Then the only 1262 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 1: way you're taking is if I'm dead, bro, real talk. 1263 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,320 Speaker 1: And another officer of he was black. The one I'm 1264 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:59,120 Speaker 1: arguing in is Mexican, you know. And this black god 1265 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 1: comes up and he goes, give me your bike, and 1266 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 1: I was like, you ain't taking my bike. It was 1267 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,679 Speaker 1: a birthictar for my wife. You know you ain't taking 1268 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 1: my bike. You goes, man, I give me your bike. 1269 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna help you move it when they can't see 1270 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:13,400 Speaker 1: your ticket. And the cop actually helped me move, but 1271 01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 1: I still lost half of my stuff. Yeah. The following 1272 01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,760 Speaker 1: week they came through with the bulldozers and took the 1273 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 1: rest and took the rest of what I had left. 1274 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:26,880 Speaker 1: So now we have no clothes, we have all our 1275 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,760 Speaker 1: all our uh personal items. I mean, the only thing 1276 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,080 Speaker 1: we were able to say was a wish tree, you 1277 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Cause that's like me and my 1278 01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 1: wife's beacon, you know, we call it our beacon. And 1279 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:39,720 Speaker 1: we were able to save the wish tree and if 1280 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,400 Speaker 1: you uh a few little items, you know, I mean 1281 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 1: it's tree is a pen in the house, but it 1282 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,680 Speaker 1: means something to us, you know. And there's no way 1283 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,160 Speaker 1: in hell that I'm gonna lose it. Hell I try 1284 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 1: to destroy it cause I was mad, and they wouldn't break, 1285 01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:56,040 Speaker 1: you know. So it's it's more of a symbol of 1286 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 1: of a of a result really, you know, of of 1287 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,800 Speaker 1: tryna make it do this, you know, and we will, 1288 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, especially with people helping us out like Ashy 1289 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 1: and Jed. Yeah, and you know, this has been a 1290 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:15,920 Speaker 1: real blessing for us. Oh, I mean yeah, I it 1291 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,920 Speaker 1: made me turn my mind back to the time when 1292 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 1: I got swept and lost my stuff and one of 1293 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 1: the times when uh me and my editor went there, 1294 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 1: they would uh run up men ran me out of 1295 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,720 Speaker 1: the park and things like that. So, I I know, 1296 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,840 Speaker 1: the sh the people don't understand the rage that you feel. 1297 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:35,120 Speaker 1: It's like you all that you have and some jack 1298 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,639 Speaker 1: ass that's a has a badge and a gun wants 1299 01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,760 Speaker 1: to take or takes a bulldozer and takes all of 1300 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,440 Speaker 1: your stuff. Like I've lost my medicine, I've lost some IDs, 1301 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,439 Speaker 1: I've la I mean, I've had to start over it 1302 01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,640 Speaker 1: so many times within like six years. Man. It's like 1303 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:49,640 Speaker 1: so it just make I I I can I know, 1304 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: I know, cause I just just I just uh yeah, 1305 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean it it's like this, like do you know 1306 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,000 Speaker 1: what I'm like the saying says you can, you could 1307 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:58,960 Speaker 1: do a million good deed in life, and then you 1308 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,719 Speaker 1: make that one mistake and everybody forgets that good deeds 1309 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,680 Speaker 1: and they remember that mistakee y, you know, and and 1310 01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,760 Speaker 1: it's it's everybody that's on the street has a story. 1311 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 1: You know, might not unique, but a lot of people 1312 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,479 Speaker 1: get swept up with the drugs and and not only that, 1313 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 1: but their mental health deteriorates as the time goes by 1314 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 1: because you lose hope, you know, and and and hope. 1315 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,519 Speaker 1: Hope can be paralyzing sometimes too, because you get stuck 1316 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 1: in in in in in in a state of limbo 1317 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,920 Speaker 1: where you're hoping for the best but you're negartting nothing. 1318 01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 1: But you know, Murphy's laws kicking your eyes, you know, 1319 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,840 Speaker 1: and and and you know, to help with Murphy, I 1320 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:40,680 Speaker 1: hope that's one of these days and I'm gonna get 1321 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:45,000 Speaker 1: out of here, you know, but it's it's it's difficult, 1322 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,439 Speaker 1: you know, but we just you know, we just keep pushing. 1323 01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's created a lot of problems with my 1324 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:53,960 Speaker 1: wife and I and we currently have some serious issues 1325 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 1: in our relationship. But you know, you don't give up 1326 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 1: on the ones you love, yes, and her being out 1327 01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,240 Speaker 1: here with me when she don't have to be it 1328 01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 1: makes me love the woman even more, you know, cause 1329 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 1: she's you know, she's she's she's getting into the wheels 1330 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,639 Speaker 1: fall out of I mean, and right now our wheeler wabbly, 1331 01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, but you know we're we're we're pushing. You know. Well, 1332 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:23,320 Speaker 1: that's that's excellent and wonderful to hear that. I I 1333 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,320 Speaker 1: have to say, I thank you guys for you telling 1334 01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,720 Speaker 1: me your stories. And I hope that and I am 1335 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 1: very confident that there are guys things are gonna get 1336 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,519 Speaker 1: look out for you guys and get better. And I 1337 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 1: hope you guys get a few more days to stay 1338 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:41,160 Speaker 1: here and hopefully someone out there can help uh financially 1339 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,519 Speaker 1: or some clothes and things like that, and they help 1340 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:47,760 Speaker 1: just whatsh whatever, If you find anybody who's looking for 1341 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:51,080 Speaker 1: a worker. Bro, I'm I'm game to do anything from 1342 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,720 Speaker 1: flipping a burger, whatching did she's I'll probably shoes. I 1343 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,280 Speaker 1: don't give a damn what it is, as long as 1344 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 1: it it it it brings some financial stability to us. 1345 01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 1: And and I'm a skilled worker. I know, I'm a 1346 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:07,120 Speaker 1: machine operator. I'm a skilled roofer that I mean, I got, 1347 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,519 Speaker 1: I got, I got skills, and and I'm a hard 1348 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,479 Speaker 1: work So it's hard for me to go to work 1349 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,760 Speaker 1: though right now, cause I got no transportation, and you 1350 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,160 Speaker 1: know I I would like to at least get some 1351 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,559 Speaker 1: instability first and then be able to hit the ground running. 1352 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,760 Speaker 1: You know, ones I feel more confident, you know, cause 1353 01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,840 Speaker 1: being out here man at taxes your confidence too. You know, 1354 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 1: you start feeling worthless and listening into the n a 1355 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 1: the narrative that's been pushed about you, right, you know, 1356 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,600 Speaker 1: you start, you start, you know, we start believing in 1357 01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,559 Speaker 1: the own our own propaganda, you know what I'm saying, 1358 01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,599 Speaker 1: the propagand against it. We start believing the whole damn 1359 01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,160 Speaker 1: would if play used you know what you think? Oh, 1360 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But we're worth it out here? 1361 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,240 Speaker 1: You know, there are people out here that are still 1362 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,000 Speaker 1: worth it. Now, I wanna point out something before I 1363 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,519 Speaker 1: close out, is that this is the in fact, the 1364 01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 1: consequences that the city and others have done. I have 1365 01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,080 Speaker 1: a family that lives out in the street, and there 1366 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:03,000 Speaker 1: was many years of a study that was dealing with kids, UH, 1367 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,360 Speaker 1: black and white, where the they able to choose a 1368 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 1: baby doll, which one was the beautiful baby doll, the 1369 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,600 Speaker 1: kind baby doll, and the ugly baby doll, or the 1370 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,519 Speaker 1: black the bla many of the blacks would choose the 1371 01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,280 Speaker 1: white dog. And the persons that they were considered evil 1372 01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:23,160 Speaker 1: and dirty and bad were the black. And so when 1373 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,880 Speaker 1: people talk about the uh, the unhoused are danger to 1374 01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,760 Speaker 1: their children, and you hear this all the time. It's 1375 01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 1: challenging for adults to do it. But imagine for like, 1376 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:37,040 Speaker 1: for example, the unhoused women with the ten children and 1377 01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,040 Speaker 1: you're saying that and your children go to school, what 1378 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,920 Speaker 1: do you think that they think after hearing what you say? 1379 01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,679 Speaker 1: So if you want to change things, if you truly 1380 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,760 Speaker 1: have this hard as a city, then you need to 1381 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:54,720 Speaker 1: create a better education plan and talking about what houselessness 1382 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,240 Speaker 1: and the unhoused community are. It is not a crime 1383 01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 1: to be unhoused. It is not a crime, and it's 1384 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,680 Speaker 1: not the children's fault if their family has tried to 1385 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,719 Speaker 1: suffer us survive or be ficted out of their homes. 1386 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,800 Speaker 1: And you have some nimby running around saying that they're 1387 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,959 Speaker 1: danger to kids or trying to break up their families. 1388 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,920 Speaker 1: This is Stil Henderson from We Done the House. I 1389 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,240 Speaker 1: hope we learned something here and I hope we again 1390 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,840 Speaker 1: meet in the light of understanding. Thank you very much. 1391 01:17:22,080 --> 01:19:18,960 Speaker 1: You're hit on a perfect, perfect dome. S. This is 1392 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 1: Theo Henderson from Leedy and House. Today in the studios, 1393 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,640 Speaker 1: we have a guest that has been the recipient of 1394 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,240 Speaker 1: one of the grassroots putting the money together to put 1395 01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:33,719 Speaker 1: the young housed in the hotels away from hostile, aggressive suites, 1396 01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,760 Speaker 1: from the lapd and the disdain from the city and 1397 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,559 Speaker 1: the studios is mister Jimmy, and I'm going to let 1398 01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,400 Speaker 1: him tell us a little bit about his experiences with 1399 01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:47,439 Speaker 1: the hotel and his experiences being on the street with 1400 01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,760 Speaker 1: doctor further adue. Jimmy, thank you for joining us, thank 1401 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,240 Speaker 1: you for having me so tell us a little bit 1402 01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,719 Speaker 1: about what's going on. How did you end up here? 1403 01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:00,920 Speaker 1: Well to be honest. He started at about uh twenty 1404 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,200 Speaker 1: eight years ago. When I was sixteen months, my dad, 1405 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,120 Speaker 1: my two brothers, and my sister died in the house fire, 1406 01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,320 Speaker 1: and my mom gave me up for adoption. When I 1407 01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,280 Speaker 1: turned twenty four, one of her co workers found me 1408 01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,320 Speaker 1: on Facebook. We did a video on Facebook. I mean, 1409 01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,519 Speaker 1: we did a video on Google hangouts, and it's actually 1410 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,000 Speaker 1: on YouTube. It's one of the shoes were working at 1411 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,879 Speaker 1: the union rescue me. She's one of their helpful videos. 1412 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,519 Speaker 1: And so at the time, I was going to Kinichuda 1413 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,760 Speaker 1: School of Cosmetology in Columbia, South Carolina. I saw. I 1414 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,960 Speaker 1: decided to show the video to my school just to 1415 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 1: t just to show them a part of my life, 1416 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, never expected. For the next day, my C 1417 01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,559 Speaker 1: my c class mate, he bought me a ticket here 1418 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,400 Speaker 1: m the school got me a hotel room at the 1419 01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:46,040 Speaker 1: Hilton Downtown for a week. They gave me fifteen hundred 1420 01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,960 Speaker 1: dollars and three Visa gift car Visa gift cards, and 1421 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,439 Speaker 1: they gave me about five hundred dollars in cash just 1422 01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,200 Speaker 1: to come out here and spend a week with my mother. 1423 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:57,439 Speaker 1: I did that. When I came home, my living situation changed. 1424 01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,880 Speaker 1: My eks had put me out. I had nowhere to go. 1425 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:05,200 Speaker 1: And sometimes you'll see where God shows up where you'll 1426 01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,040 Speaker 1: never expect him. My mom called me. I didn't call her. 1427 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,719 Speaker 1: She called me. She aksed me, was out okay? Three times. 1428 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 1: The first time I said, oh, yes, I'm a fine. 1429 01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,320 Speaker 1: Second time I said yes, I'm fine. The third time 1430 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:18,800 Speaker 1: something in me just broke. I just told her the 1431 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,280 Speaker 1: whole truth. She said, okay, I'm gonna call you right back. 1432 01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:22,639 Speaker 1: When she called me back, she said, well, you got 1433 01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 1: two options. You can stay there and be homeless, or 1434 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,519 Speaker 1: you can come out here and live with me. At 1435 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,880 Speaker 1: the time, she was like, I said, she was staying 1436 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,120 Speaker 1: at the Union Rescue Mission. So I stayed at the 1437 01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,679 Speaker 1: Union Rescue Mission for one day. I couldn't do It's 1438 01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,360 Speaker 1: like being in jail, and I I've never been. At 1439 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:39,720 Speaker 1: that point, I had never been in jail, so I 1440 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,240 Speaker 1: didn't even wanna experience that. Yes, So she said, well, 1441 01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:43,840 Speaker 1: you got an option. Shit, she said, I got a 1442 01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,760 Speaker 1: d A tent. You can take the tent. So that 1443 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:50,120 Speaker 1: was in two thousand and fourteen. I I've been living 1444 01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,920 Speaker 1: on the street ever since. Okay. From there, it went 1445 01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,240 Speaker 1: into a drug addiction. A real bad drug addiction. But 1446 01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,160 Speaker 1: from the drug addiction, I learned a lot about myself. 1447 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,479 Speaker 1: You know, God would take things from you when you 1448 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,240 Speaker 1: think that you have everything, in order to show you 1449 01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,160 Speaker 1: that you don't. Mm. It started with my tooth. Okay, 1450 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,680 Speaker 1: I first lost my tooth, then my mother passed. Oh 1451 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm two years ago. Then about a month after that, 1452 01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,280 Speaker 1: my f the tip of my finger got infected. I 1453 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:18,960 Speaker 1: don't know if you can see this, and I lost 1454 01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:22,160 Speaker 1: two fingers. M just being deep in my drug addiction 1455 01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:26,160 Speaker 1: and deepen my depression. But one thing I did learn 1456 01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,880 Speaker 1: this time coming from getting I used to have a house. 1457 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I chose to be homeless. 1458 01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,120 Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't have the luxury to 1459 01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,280 Speaker 1: say that they they did that, and I I did that. 1460 01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,240 Speaker 1: You know. I thought it was fun and and and 1461 01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,240 Speaker 1: and exciting cause I never did it before. I was 1462 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 1: never living on the streets. I never really had to 1463 01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:47,439 Speaker 1: survive on my own. So then so then when I 1464 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,400 Speaker 1: finally made a decision that it was time for me 1465 01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:52,000 Speaker 1: to do something differently, was when I got out of prison. 1466 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,960 Speaker 1: I w I got arrested last year August sixth two 1467 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:59,639 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen for two counts of assault with a daily weapon, 1468 01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,479 Speaker 1: one cond great bodily injury. I beat up four people 1469 01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,920 Speaker 1: when I was drunk. Oh my goodness, you say you 1470 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 1: were trump. I beat them up, left, came back and 1471 01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,599 Speaker 1: beat them up again. When I did that, the police 1472 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,040 Speaker 1: saw me the second time. They took me to jail. 1473 01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:17,360 Speaker 1: They was offering me twelve years at first. I took 1474 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,120 Speaker 1: the deal for two years with half. I did a 1475 01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:23,479 Speaker 1: year flat. When I got out, things were different, not 1476 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,360 Speaker 1: just for me, but just different in general, you know 1477 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,559 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Especially I'm not originally from Hollywood. I 1478 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:34,360 Speaker 1: was in the downtown area, yes, yes, and it's way 1479 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,320 Speaker 1: to me, it's way worse than Hollywood because you know, 1480 01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:41,200 Speaker 1: people always want to forget that, so people don't understand 1481 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,360 Speaker 1: that there's homelessness everywhere. And I've experienced it just catching 1482 01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,640 Speaker 1: the number four bus. You stop in different places, and 1483 01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I always thought homelessness was right there in 1484 01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,760 Speaker 1: downtown exactly. And it's you know what I'm saying. When 1485 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:54,760 Speaker 1: I was in prison, I learned that at any given moment, 1486 01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,639 Speaker 1: it's at least fifty thousand homeless people in La County 1487 01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:02,080 Speaker 1: period fifty sixty now but sixteen thousand, what the COVID 1488 01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,400 Speaker 1: nineteen is adding because people are being thrown out of 1489 01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,960 Speaker 1: their houses and evicted to suit, so you know where 1490 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:08,679 Speaker 1: to go. You know what I'm saying, It's only gonna 1491 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,080 Speaker 1: get worse before it get better. So we if we 1492 01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,280 Speaker 1: get together and we do something like I want to 1493 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,840 Speaker 1: think Jed and I definitely want to think Ashley. Yes, 1494 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,759 Speaker 1: those are two wonderful people. Literally I got out of prison, 1495 01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,120 Speaker 1: I went on a real bad binge for a while, 1496 01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,759 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I found myself literally 1497 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:32,479 Speaker 1: buttonnked in the park downtown, LA, cutting people out, saying 1498 01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,760 Speaker 1: black lives matter. And when I came to you know 1499 01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, they didn't call the police. This is 1500 01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,599 Speaker 1: how you can see the kindness in people that you 1501 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,080 Speaker 1: don't regularly see when we see so much in the 1502 01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,160 Speaker 1: media about people just you know, being racist or being 1503 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, a certain type of way, when the reality is, 1504 01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,360 Speaker 1: there are a lot of good people in this world, 1505 01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,760 Speaker 1: and we just allow people to be good, you know 1506 01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So when I got I just I 1507 01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,000 Speaker 1: just stopped. I literally stopped using drugs, I stopped drinking. 1508 01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,920 Speaker 1: I said I had to stop for myself. So I 1509 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:04,719 Speaker 1: was like, well, I don't want to go back downtown 1510 01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,439 Speaker 1: where I want to go, go to Hollywood. So that's 1511 01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,680 Speaker 1: how I ended up on Selma in Lost Promise. So 1512 01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,240 Speaker 1: when I got there, I spent two days just doing 1513 01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,160 Speaker 1: recon like I just watched what's going on in the 1514 01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,960 Speaker 1: neighborhood because at that time I had been coming to 1515 01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,800 Speaker 1: Hollywood to visit, but never really to stay. So in 1516 01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,280 Speaker 1: my visits, all the gay people because I'm gay, Yes, 1517 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,240 Speaker 1: I hang out right, used to hang out right there church. 1518 01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,439 Speaker 1: Is it near the it's the first I'm gonna say. 1519 01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:33,720 Speaker 1: It's not near the LGBQ LGB it's demonstrator, Okay, so 1520 01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:35,720 Speaker 1: it's down it's like right around the corner from the 1521 01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:39,599 Speaker 1: YMC A. Oh yeah, everybody used to hang out with Yeah. 1522 01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,320 Speaker 1: So then I got there. This time he was only 1523 01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,720 Speaker 1: a couple of tenths. So then I spent two days 1524 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:45,960 Speaker 1: just like hanging out at the church and going to 1525 01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,760 Speaker 1: meet here, going to you know, and doing stuff for 1526 01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:51,160 Speaker 1: different things. The third day I was there, Uh, this 1527 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,719 Speaker 1: guy at the corner, Tony he had just got his housing, 1528 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,040 Speaker 1: not his housing, but he had got a residential treatment facility. 1529 01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,600 Speaker 1: They came and picked him up from the tent. So 1530 01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:03,680 Speaker 1: then he left the tent, the bed, everything, and he 1531 01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:05,040 Speaker 1: just threw it in the street. And I was like, well, 1532 01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't have nothing, so I asked him myself, can 1533 01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,720 Speaker 1: I have it? He said yeah. Right after he left, 1534 01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,360 Speaker 1: Ashley and Jeb show up and then she was like, sorry, 1535 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,200 Speaker 1: would you be interested in getting a room instead of 1536 01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:16,439 Speaker 1: just living on the street. She said, if I can 1537 01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:18,880 Speaker 1: get you a room, would you I said yes. Now 1538 01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,160 Speaker 1: what surprised me the most about that is the day 1539 01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,439 Speaker 1: of us coming here. There were so many people who 1540 01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,000 Speaker 1: wanted to go, but then when it's time to come 1541 01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,479 Speaker 1: time to go, they changed their mind. Or I want 1542 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,360 Speaker 1: to hang with my friends, or I can't go because 1543 01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,280 Speaker 1: it did so I don't want to pack up my stuff. 1544 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,400 Speaker 1: The reality is when it's time for you to do 1545 01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,680 Speaker 1: better for yourself, it will present itself first and then 1546 01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,880 Speaker 1: you have to accept it. People don't know about the 1547 01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,719 Speaker 1: accepting part. God can present anything you want to present 1548 01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,760 Speaker 1: to you, but we have to accept it. That's the 1549 01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,280 Speaker 1: free will. Let me interject her here too, because you 1550 01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,559 Speaker 1: have to live out here on the street is also 1551 01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:56,200 Speaker 1: a challenge because sometimes I was having a conversation with 1552 01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,160 Speaker 1: angel that we lose hope. And that's a part of 1553 01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:03,080 Speaker 1: it too about being presented. The thing is that when 1554 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:06,320 Speaker 1: you feel like the negative stereotypes has been seeping in 1555 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,680 Speaker 1: by the outsider, you tend to believe that you know. 1556 01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:14,160 Speaker 1: And for example, there was a time, and I will 1557 01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:18,200 Speaker 1: full disclosure, someone offered me to go to project room 1558 01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:21,560 Speaker 1: kit and when I heard about the prison kind of 1559 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,559 Speaker 1: thing with them searching me, I had a panic attack 1560 01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,160 Speaker 1: because I could not deal with that guy matter I 1561 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:28,960 Speaker 1: didn't know. I want to be like I was a 1562 01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:30,640 Speaker 1: prison because where I was at I was able to 1563 01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,080 Speaker 1: go to come and go, I have my own key, 1564 01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:37,200 Speaker 1: go to the bathroom, have my own autonomy, and just 1565 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,960 Speaker 1: go back and forth and just do be a human being. 1566 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,600 Speaker 1: And the fact that they offered me that and I 1567 01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:46,680 Speaker 1: had to turn it down because of the fact that 1568 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,360 Speaker 1: it's just the idea that seeps into it, like you 1569 01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,519 Speaker 1: are a problem of burden that we need to put 1570 01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,920 Speaker 1: and lock into a cage. And a lot of house 1571 01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:01,439 Speaker 1: people have a suspicion because they've been promised promises a 1572 01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,839 Speaker 1: lot of times that it hasn't paid through. It's particularly 1573 01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,680 Speaker 1: hot in the street. You know you've been out here 1574 01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,639 Speaker 1: as long as I have, so you you know, yeah, 1575 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,599 Speaker 1: that is one of the things I like to talk 1576 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:13,479 Speaker 1: about as well. But go ahead, please continue so that 1577 01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:19,040 Speaker 1: you're absolutely correct. So so then what what really baffles 1578 01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,360 Speaker 1: me the most about the I like the way you 1579 01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,240 Speaker 1: say the unhoused. That's that's the first time I'm hearing 1580 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,560 Speaker 1: that terminology. I like that. I'm gonna start using that 1581 01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,600 Speaker 1: because that's what we are. We're not homeless, because the 1582 01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,840 Speaker 1: homeless is a tough word, because the home is what 1583 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:36,599 Speaker 1: the heart is. Wherever, I can't be homeless that part, right, 1584 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:41,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I might be residents, you know, yes, 1585 01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,360 Speaker 1: And one thing I learned is even being in a hotel, 1586 01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,600 Speaker 1: you're still considered homeless exactly because you don't have a 1587 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,280 Speaker 1: legal residence where you can you know what I'm saying, 1588 01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,479 Speaker 1: get your mail or you know what I'm saying, But 1589 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,439 Speaker 1: you can't put this address on your ID. And not 1590 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,679 Speaker 1: only that too, you can't stay here but by twenty 1591 01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,200 Speaker 1: eight and then they'll throw you out. So that's just 1592 01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:02,280 Speaker 1: not a permanent residence. And twenty eight days is expensive, 1593 01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's another thing I 1594 01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,640 Speaker 1: want to appreciate wherever the funding is coming from, you know, 1595 01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:11,840 Speaker 1: and they're working to keep you here, leave me longer. 1596 01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:13,880 Speaker 1: So that's another thing. And I've been talking, I've been 1597 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,240 Speaker 1: putting the word out there about about Street Watching. That's 1598 01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,960 Speaker 1: that's that's the organization that I know. Yes, that's helping 1599 01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,840 Speaker 1: me right now. I've been telling street Watch ground game 1600 01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:25,400 Speaker 1: time for it's a lot of them putting, putting, pushing. 1601 01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,320 Speaker 1: It's a wonderful group of people, just just from the 1602 01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,799 Speaker 1: two I met, just from from day one. Actually, smile. 1603 01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:33,840 Speaker 1: That's the first thing she said to me. She said, 1604 01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,719 Speaker 1: uh when when she said the hotel room, my smile. 1605 01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,320 Speaker 1: She said, you have a wonderful smile. I said, thank you. 1606 01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:42,360 Speaker 1: She said you would you mind doing anything? I would 1607 01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,400 Speaker 1: talk to anybody about it because it's a program that 1608 01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,040 Speaker 1: really will help the people. I also had an idea. 1609 01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,040 Speaker 1: This is just the idea of pitching out of you here. Okay. 1610 01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,160 Speaker 1: Do you ever notice when when homeless people get into accents, 1611 01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,920 Speaker 1: they don't have any emergency contacts? Yes, that's what that's 1612 01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:58,599 Speaker 1: the first question. They asked you to get to the hospital. 1613 01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,920 Speaker 1: Who's your emergency contact? When we're unhoused, we don't have 1614 01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,519 Speaker 1: a lot of support out there, and there's not an 1615 01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:08,920 Speaker 1: organization that only provides emergency contexts, like people who are 1616 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,439 Speaker 1: either from the streets are still currently in the streets, 1617 01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:15,320 Speaker 1: who may be able to provide an emergency context if 1618 01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:17,920 Speaker 1: something went wrong the situation I was in. I was 1619 01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,120 Speaker 1: in the friends tent just back when I was living 1620 01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:25,479 Speaker 1: in the tent, and we heard this boom. Now he's 1621 01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,000 Speaker 1: used to be an emergency firefighter, so his first instinct 1622 01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,200 Speaker 1: he jumps up, runs out the tent. I'm not a firefighter, 1623 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,760 Speaker 1: police officer, doctor, none of that. I cannot provide any 1624 01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:38,880 Speaker 1: emergency medical existence. But what I can do is maybe 1625 01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,800 Speaker 1: get the person's name, get his information, stuff like that, 1626 01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,280 Speaker 1: so when the ambulance come, those are questions I can answer. 1627 01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,920 Speaker 1: He's not gonna be able to ansery. He got hit 1628 01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,560 Speaker 1: by a car. His whole leg was literally spread on 1629 01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:53,800 Speaker 1: the ground. Open up. And if you've ever seen that 1630 01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,400 Speaker 1: much blood at one time, it doesn't look real. It 1631 01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:59,000 Speaker 1: looks phony, It doesn't look like regular blood. How we 1632 01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,880 Speaker 1: look at it changed my mind about a lot of things. 1633 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,240 Speaker 1: But like no one knew its name, no one knew 1634 01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,479 Speaker 1: anything about it. No one knew because we don't have 1635 01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:10,840 Speaker 1: a system set up already, you know what I'm saying, 1636 01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:13,280 Speaker 1: just for the un housed. So that was an idea 1637 01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,080 Speaker 1: that I had maybe we could come up with, you 1638 01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying in connection with any of these 1639 01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:22,960 Speaker 1: organizations about just an emergency context situation, just just saying, 1640 01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,160 Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be something spectacular. Be a 1641 01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:27,400 Speaker 1: person with a cell phone. Yeah, and if something happens, 1642 01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:29,000 Speaker 1: they can call this person with a cell phone. This 1643 01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:32,320 Speaker 1: person knows generally everything about them and not all their 1644 01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,360 Speaker 1: deep dark secrets, but just enough to pass any medical 1645 01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:38,519 Speaker 1: questions or anything like that, because that's very, very difficult 1646 01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:40,720 Speaker 1: when you get to the hospital. Because it's funny you 1647 01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,280 Speaker 1: said that like four years ago when I was stabbed 1648 01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:47,040 Speaker 1: and and I hate to say this because you know, 1649 01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,560 Speaker 1: I was floating in and out of consciousness. And the 1650 01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,679 Speaker 1: last thing I want to be doing is I haven't 1651 01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,479 Speaker 1: been grilled by a hundred questions like I mean, it's 1652 01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:57,519 Speaker 1: immense pain. I'm going in out of consciousness. One minute. 1653 01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,439 Speaker 1: They asked me a question and I thought I answered it, 1654 01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:02,200 Speaker 1: And they keep asking the same name, they keep asking 1655 01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:03,720 Speaker 1: the same do I know the day I know, you know, 1656 01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,960 Speaker 1: I understand that they're trying to orientate to see if 1657 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:09,040 Speaker 1: I stay conscious and were telling me not to stay awakened. Things. 1658 01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,920 Speaker 1: But it's very cumbersome time to give all your personal 1659 01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:18,080 Speaker 1: phone just you know, you got to go through surgery, 1660 01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,120 Speaker 1: so you're right. You know, someone that's on on this 1661 01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,400 Speaker 1: is this guy, this is his name. Call this person 1662 01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:26,679 Speaker 1: that way and then they can maybe carry a card 1663 01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:28,800 Speaker 1: or something like that in their pockets and in case 1664 01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,680 Speaker 1: of emergency, please call this number. And it's just a 1665 01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,960 Speaker 1: simple idea that that nobody's implemented, you know what I'm saying. 1666 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,320 Speaker 1: So that's just that's just an idea I had. But 1667 01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:41,720 Speaker 1: being homeless for me, and a lot of people don't 1668 01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:43,720 Speaker 1: like I say this a lot. They don't get to 1669 01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,799 Speaker 1: afford the luxury of saying that. It's a not a privilege, 1670 01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,519 Speaker 1: but it's a choice for me at the time I 1671 01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,559 Speaker 1: chose to be. Then I got addicted to it. Being 1672 01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,200 Speaker 1: homeless is a lifestyle, you know what I'm saying. You 1673 01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,360 Speaker 1: get addicted to the hustling, the bustling of being on 1674 01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:03,240 Speaker 1: the streets and then when God shows up, he gonna 1675 01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,599 Speaker 1: show out. Mm. And that's how that's how it happened 1676 01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,760 Speaker 1: for me. I can't explain it to anybody else. And 1677 01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:09,840 Speaker 1: when I explain it to people, they really just like 1678 01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:13,240 Speaker 1: are baffled. I said, I'm still baffled and I'm living it. 1679 01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:15,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But God has always showed 1680 01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:16,800 Speaker 1: up for me in my life, you know what I'm saying. Well, 1681 01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:20,400 Speaker 1: if you know, it's like, for example, we become institutionalized. 1682 01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:24,200 Speaker 1: People that have been incarcerated becomes into institutionalized if you 1683 01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,280 Speaker 1: put in a system in place. For example, if you 1684 01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:31,040 Speaker 1: have a city that has uh educated the public, un 1685 01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:34,920 Speaker 1: house people are criminals, drug addicts, they don't want help 1686 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:38,120 Speaker 1: and things like that. It's very easy to drink that 1687 01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,200 Speaker 1: kool aid even if you are on a house because 1688 01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,400 Speaker 1: you're like, well, hell, they won't offer any help when 1689 01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:45,680 Speaker 1: I keep asking, well, I'll just choose this because if 1690 01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,240 Speaker 1: I look at something else, what if it doesn't come 1691 01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,400 Speaker 1: true and then I'm back out here again. Because one 1692 01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:53,400 Speaker 1: of the things that's hard for me is like to 1693 01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:56,760 Speaker 1: be in a recuperative care place. They help don't have 1694 01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,120 Speaker 1: any place for me. They don't have enough money to 1695 01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,040 Speaker 1: the money stops. Now I gotta go back out of 1696 01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,040 Speaker 1: the street. So it's just like, you know what, I 1697 01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:05,400 Speaker 1: don't want to hear the help anymore, because you know, 1698 01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,439 Speaker 1: every time you say you're gonna help me, I'm here 1699 01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:09,000 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and then I back out of 1700 01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:10,800 Speaker 1: the street or a couple of months, and I want 1701 01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:15,080 Speaker 1: something like the couple there want something permanent. They want 1702 01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:18,040 Speaker 1: something that's stable that they don't want to one minute 1703 01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:19,800 Speaker 1: they go and throw it into some jail cell because 1704 01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:24,439 Speaker 1: he or or he's has to uh he's got the 1705 01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:26,160 Speaker 1: acle bracelet. Like you got what you said, some of 1706 01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:28,800 Speaker 1: the responsibilities there. So I think that's one of the 1707 01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,840 Speaker 1: things too, is like the nuances about it. It's just 1708 01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:35,240 Speaker 1: not just like people say one day, look out on 1709 01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,400 Speaker 1: the street. You know, I like to be harassed by police. No, 1710 01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:42,559 Speaker 1: nobody knows that. Nobody likes to be ignored exactly when 1711 01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,680 Speaker 1: you're on house, you're ignored and people don't understand that. 1712 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,439 Speaker 1: Feeling like I'm on sell Man lost promise. There are 1713 01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:52,880 Speaker 1: a lot of attractive people, physically attractive people who come 1714 01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,080 Speaker 1: by all day long. Then you have people who drop 1715 01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:59,000 Speaker 1: some magnificent cars right there, like and it's just of 1716 01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:02,160 Speaker 1: homeless people living right there. And I'll never forget at 1717 01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:03,599 Speaker 1: the time, you know, I had a couple of dollars 1718 01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:05,640 Speaker 1: on me. But I needed to use a phone. And 1719 01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:07,639 Speaker 1: it was this lady and this man. There were a couple, 1720 01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:10,320 Speaker 1: and I said, excuse me, can I pay you a 1721 01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,400 Speaker 1: dollar to use your phone? I don't have to touch 1722 01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:15,040 Speaker 1: your phone. You can dial the number, just put it 1723 01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:19,040 Speaker 1: on speakerphone. Before she said anything else, the first thing 1724 01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,920 Speaker 1: in her mouth was, I don't have any money. I 1725 01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:25,360 Speaker 1: didn't ask you for anybody. I didn't. I didn't. There 1726 01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,400 Speaker 1: was no way in the world you could have understood 1727 01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,559 Speaker 1: me ask you for any money. My first thing says, 1728 01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,000 Speaker 1: I would like to pay you to use your phone. 1729 01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:34,519 Speaker 1: That let you know that people don't actually listen to 1730 01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,200 Speaker 1: the to the unhoused exactly. They don't pay attention to 1731 01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:40,000 Speaker 1: the unhoused. They may see them, they may even give 1732 01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,960 Speaker 1: them a dollar, but to actually get to understand, you 1733 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, what they're going through, a lot 1734 01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,679 Speaker 1: of people don't understand that mental illness has a lot 1735 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,839 Speaker 1: to do with what's going on in the unhoused situation. 1736 01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:54,000 Speaker 1: Because you have a person who's already suffering from either 1737 01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,880 Speaker 1: from mild to severe mental illness, you mix it with 1738 01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,599 Speaker 1: any drug addiction. It can be as strong as weed, 1739 01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,920 Speaker 1: though we don't consider weed a drug anymore. Weed is 1740 01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:07,280 Speaker 1: still a drug, no matter what you say, even something small. 1741 01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:10,320 Speaker 1: I've seen a person addicted to weed living on the streets. 1742 01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:13,559 Speaker 1: There's no hardcore drugs, not meth, not crack, not heroin 1743 01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:16,720 Speaker 1: or nothing, just weed. And in the six years that 1744 01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:20,720 Speaker 1: I've been here, he has declined just on we Weed 1745 01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,519 Speaker 1: is legal, but it's still a drug that it it 1746 01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,439 Speaker 1: changes the mind, it changes well. I know when you 1747 01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,639 Speaker 1: say mental health issues, cause we need to talk about 1748 01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,200 Speaker 1: that because there's a community that there that believes the 1749 01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,720 Speaker 1: majority of my house people are making Yeah. Now we 1750 01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,400 Speaker 1: all are affected by the mental strains of being a 1751 01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,800 Speaker 1: house because it it does you could be uh, you know, 1752 01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,559 Speaker 1: I wants for want better word normal. But the live 1753 01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:49,280 Speaker 1: that kind of traumatic existence does affect you mentally. But 1754 01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean we because a lot of the people 1755 01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,920 Speaker 1: that are are in substant usage were not before they 1756 01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:57,439 Speaker 1: became a house. They got on it because it was 1757 01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,600 Speaker 1: hard to live here, to learn to deal with the 1758 01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:03,760 Speaker 1: day to day stresses, which is what I dare any 1759 01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:07,800 Speaker 1: council member that is pushing no special enforcement zone. I 1760 01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:12,920 Speaker 1: would love to see the judges mandate that they for 1761 01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,920 Speaker 1: a year and a half lose their money and all 1762 01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:18,720 Speaker 1: their ideas and to live out in these uh these 1763 01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:22,640 Speaker 1: tents and the ones that they have been targeted are 1764 01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:24,840 Speaker 1: the ones that will write out the orders for them 1765 01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:27,600 Speaker 1: to be targeted harassed for a year to see just 1766 01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:30,080 Speaker 1: how much that can can they survive out there? But 1767 01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,479 Speaker 1: I know that's that's just wish for thinking. But the 1768 01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,519 Speaker 1: point of it is, no one really is adapted to 1769 01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:39,040 Speaker 1: live out there. So, yes, mental health issues, it's a 1770 01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:41,799 Speaker 1: part of it, but it's not the part some total 1771 01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:46,559 Speaker 1: just like a pinnacles. Definitely say it definitely plays a part, definitely, 1772 01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:49,320 Speaker 1: But what I meant was I meant the people who 1773 01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,880 Speaker 1: are more on the severe end. Yeah, you're saying of 1774 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:55,759 Speaker 1: the mental health mental uh mental health issues, Yeah, because 1775 01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:57,920 Speaker 1: they're they're some people like me. I'm I have a 1776 01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,479 Speaker 1: mental health issue. Yes, say I suffered from anxiety real bad. 1777 01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:04,439 Speaker 1: I don't do crowds. I cannot do crowds. When this 1778 01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:07,040 Speaker 1: is okay, you know what I'm saying. I can watch everybody. 1779 01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:10,000 Speaker 1: That's literally what I'm thinking about. But say I get 1780 01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,880 Speaker 1: on the bus and it's a bus full of people, Yeah, 1781 01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm having an anxiety attack because for me being through 1782 01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:19,600 Speaker 1: everything I've been through, and just just even even in 1783 01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:21,400 Speaker 1: the past six years of me being in your house, 1784 01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:23,439 Speaker 1: I've learned that I've got to be the one to 1785 01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,120 Speaker 1: watch my back and I never experienced that before. I'm 1786 01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,519 Speaker 1: from Columbia, South Carolina. South Carolina is one of the 1787 01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:32,479 Speaker 1: most republican states there is. It is illegal to be homeless. 1788 01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:34,280 Speaker 1: You live on If you live on, this detrimental is 1789 01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:37,800 Speaker 1: a democratic one and it's illegal tomes live. If you 1790 01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:39,479 Speaker 1: live on the streets, they give you a ticket. So 1791 01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,519 Speaker 1: these tickets should go to jail. You see what I'm saying. Now, 1792 01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,880 Speaker 1: I've never experienced this before, so coming out here, I 1793 01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:49,720 Speaker 1: have to. I learned this word acclimate to my surroundings 1794 01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,600 Speaker 1: and all times you have to acclimate as humans. We 1795 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,920 Speaker 1: have done that to the highest degree. You know what 1796 01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,799 Speaker 1: I'm saying. They said adversity is the mother of invention. 1797 01:38:58,160 --> 01:38:59,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When we go through something, 1798 01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:01,640 Speaker 1: we can't figure it out, what this, We've come up 1799 01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:03,800 Speaker 1: with that solution doing. You know what I'm saying. But 1800 01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:08,120 Speaker 1: one of the solutions to be unhoused is to accept that. 1801 01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:12,280 Speaker 1: When you were saying that we have this pretty much 1802 01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:14,640 Speaker 1: this doubt in our mind that Okay, this is not 1803 01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:16,760 Speaker 1: gonna work, you know what I'm saying. But we have 1804 01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:20,680 Speaker 1: to be not afraid to we don't We can't be 1805 01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:26,000 Speaker 1: afraid to lose, to lose. But that takes, That takes, 1806 01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:30,800 Speaker 1: but that takes patience, That takes people meeting us where 1807 01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:35,240 Speaker 1: we are because I have and I have friends that 1808 01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,519 Speaker 1: believe that on house have to be in a conditional 1809 01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:41,040 Speaker 1: kind of state. You have to be ranty for help 1810 01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:43,280 Speaker 1: or you have to be at this point to this 1811 01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:46,360 Speaker 1: point for them someone to reach out. And the ones 1812 01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:48,920 Speaker 1: that stick in my mind that reached out that made 1813 01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:54,320 Speaker 1: me rethink things. And it wasn't my immediate friends. It 1814 01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:56,920 Speaker 1: was a friend that when I was living out in 1815 01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:00,280 Speaker 1: the park and they don't know these when they came 1816 01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:03,040 Speaker 1: out of nowhere and see my stuff and offered to 1817 01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:05,519 Speaker 1: put my stuff and help store some with my stuff, 1818 01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:09,200 Speaker 1: And at first I was just struggling, well, are you serious? 1819 01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:11,040 Speaker 1: What did they got? You know, is this for a 1820 01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:12,720 Speaker 1: couple of weeks and then they're gonna come back and 1821 01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:15,600 Speaker 1: say so. When they did that, that made me re 1822 01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:19,360 Speaker 1: examine my situation because it's like they're not asking me 1823 01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:21,840 Speaker 1: to move my stuff. Maybe I can go get my 1824 01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:25,679 Speaker 1: ID and I don't have to worry about the police 1825 01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:29,920 Speaker 1: taking my stuff. And when I did that, that changed 1826 01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:32,360 Speaker 1: my idea. I said, and maybe I can get off 1827 01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:34,679 Speaker 1: the street if I can use And then they introduce 1828 01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:36,800 Speaker 1: something else. Well, when you can get your mail sitting 1829 01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,719 Speaker 1: here and we'll take up your mail, that was another 1830 01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,760 Speaker 1: big burden that was lost. I said, Okay, I can 1831 01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:45,320 Speaker 1: see myself finally getting a bit back on my feet 1832 01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:49,880 Speaker 1: because somebody's meeting me where I'm at instead of me, Well, 1833 01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:51,400 Speaker 1: you got to be here, you got to be all 1834 01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:54,200 Speaker 1: this time and this data. It was not that. And 1835 01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:56,240 Speaker 1: that's the thing I think what a lot of people 1836 01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:59,560 Speaker 1: are looking for meet them worthy at you know, like 1837 01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,320 Speaker 1: family least have a lot of luggage or things like that, 1838 01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:05,080 Speaker 1: and they just can't just up and just drop everything 1839 01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:07,599 Speaker 1: because if it's short term and they get their stuff 1840 01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,320 Speaker 1: thrown in their back edge ground zero and it's traumatic 1841 01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:12,920 Speaker 1: to start over because I have done it several times. 1842 01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:16,920 Speaker 1: It's like it's eats at your psyche. It exhausts you 1843 01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:21,040 Speaker 1: because it's freaking exhausting, Like I gotta go back to 1844 01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:23,800 Speaker 1: wait four hours and apply this damn gr pig. Oh 1845 01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,880 Speaker 1: my god, I gotta go wait here, four hours, we 1846 01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:29,280 Speaker 1: do gr you get it in ten days. Yeah, well 1847 01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,880 Speaker 1: a prison. I got out of prison on July twenty eighth. 1848 01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:37,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't apply for food stamps on the thirtieth. They said, 1849 01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:40,880 Speaker 1: come back on the tenth. Now in ten days, ten days. 1850 01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's just I don't know. That's unbelievable. Yeah, 1851 01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:48,559 Speaker 1: I can believe it. I can tell you what I've 1852 01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,920 Speaker 1: done to survive. But then you know, probably couldn't err it, 1853 01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:53,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But that's just the truth. 1854 01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,640 Speaker 1: Whether it's the but you get honestly, it's honestly and 1855 01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:59,320 Speaker 1: with a way that you're in a position to do that. Yeah, 1856 01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, I made a conscious effort not to borrow, steal, 1857 01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:05,040 Speaker 1: or beg anybody for anything this time, you know what 1858 01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,479 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Luckily, and I tell people a lot of time, 1859 01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:09,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you go through. As long as 1860 01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:11,479 Speaker 1: you got God on your side, you walk with God. 1861 01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:14,320 Speaker 1: He's gonna walk with you. Remember the footprints in the sand, 1862 01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:16,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Why was there only one 1863 01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:18,800 Speaker 1: pair of footprints? Because when I was tired, he carried me. 1864 01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:20,720 Speaker 1: And I feel like now it's to the point where 1865 01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:23,280 Speaker 1: he's carrying me. He's showing me that. Jimmy, if you 1866 01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:26,120 Speaker 1: want to do this, this is what can happen. I 1867 01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:28,640 Speaker 1: mean literally I cannot explain it. I just I just 1868 01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:31,800 Speaker 1: I literally thank God. Every day it literally was just 1869 01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:34,320 Speaker 1: like boom boo boom. I literally stayed in that tenth 1870 01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,600 Speaker 1: for two days. No no, no, no, no, that's a 1871 01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:39,519 Speaker 1: lie because I met him on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, 1872 01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:42,519 Speaker 1: four days. Okay. I was gonna ask you, Jimmy. I 1873 01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:48,600 Speaker 1: noticed the challenges because I've interviewed a queer, a transgender 1874 01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:51,479 Speaker 1: people and each of them have their own story in 1875 01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:55,639 Speaker 1: their own in your words testimony, were you targeted or barbered? 1876 01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,880 Speaker 1: Did you find it difficult to be out here because 1877 01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:02,760 Speaker 1: of that? Well, okay, everybody has a different story. Yes, yes, 1878 01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:06,000 Speaker 1: my story wasn't that bad? Okay, Like especially with the 1879 01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:09,160 Speaker 1: being the gay part. I have I met this woman. 1880 01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:12,200 Speaker 1: Her name is Carla. We all call it little Holly 1881 01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,720 Speaker 1: Berry because she looks you ever seen Losing Isaiah, the 1882 01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:17,960 Speaker 1: movie Losing Isaiah with Holly Berry. She looks like she 1883 01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:21,640 Speaker 1: looks like Holly Berry in that movie Losing Isaiah. Not 1884 01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:25,120 Speaker 1: on the crack, but when she got together. Barry was 1885 01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:30,439 Speaker 1: my secret wife. You just know that. So and when 1886 01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:33,720 Speaker 1: I met her at the time, I was my My 1887 01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:39,200 Speaker 1: stepfather sold cigarettes in front of the Midnight Mission. And 1888 01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:42,120 Speaker 1: if you don't even know aboudy about downtown, they only 1889 01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:46,200 Speaker 1: have two two brands and cigarettes, you have the real brand. 1890 01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:49,160 Speaker 1: They have what they call sheriffs. And so I was 1891 01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:51,400 Speaker 1: just sitting out there with him selling cigarettes, selling cigarettes. 1892 01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:53,360 Speaker 1: I started off with two packs of cigarettes. By the 1893 01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:55,639 Speaker 1: end of the week, I was selling heroin. It's true. 1894 01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:58,880 Speaker 1: So I met her. She was like, I'm the plug. 1895 01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:02,040 Speaker 1: You the plug, okay, and she's beautiful. I love hanging 1896 01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:05,559 Speaker 1: with beautiful women because I like guys, and guys attract 1897 01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:09,040 Speaker 1: to beautiful women. Always keep a beautiful woman with me, Akay, 1898 01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:11,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So we started getting real 1899 01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:13,840 Speaker 1: close close, and then we met this other girl named Sarah. 1900 01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:16,519 Speaker 1: So it's me Ali Bery and Halle Berry and Sarah. 1901 01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:19,760 Speaker 1: And when I say we elevated our game, this is 1902 01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:23,679 Speaker 1: homeless gang or on housed gang. We went from selling 1903 01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:27,439 Speaker 1: cigarettes to were selling every every drug known to men, 1904 01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:32,439 Speaker 1: and we were selling every cigarette accessory and all that. 1905 01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:35,439 Speaker 1: Just had everything right on the corner. Six of sant Petro. 1906 01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:37,280 Speaker 1: And we did that for about two years, okay, and 1907 01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:39,760 Speaker 1: we I mean we squandered money. This is when I 1908 01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:43,360 Speaker 1: can tell people. But back to the gay part. I 1909 01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,680 Speaker 1: was very like shy at first. You know what I'm saying. 1910 01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:47,519 Speaker 1: I didn't talk to any guys that didn't say anything 1911 01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:51,160 Speaker 1: to anybody. I was just real composed. And she I 1912 01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:54,519 Speaker 1: call it my sister. So my sister. She she always like. 1913 01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:57,800 Speaker 1: She always said, Jimmy, why are you so scary. I'm like, 1914 01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:00,799 Speaker 1: I'm not scary. I'm not from la here before. I'm 1915 01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:02,679 Speaker 1: not gonna put myself in a situation where I could 1916 01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:05,519 Speaker 1: be in trouble. And it came to the gay part, 1917 01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:06,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what I'm saying, I'm gay. 1918 01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:09,200 Speaker 1: I can't just be talking to guys like that. She said, Jimmy, 1919 01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:11,880 Speaker 1: you see her right there. And she talked about my 1920 01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:14,720 Speaker 1: another friend of mine named Spirit. She said, if I 1921 01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:16,960 Speaker 1: can fuck her, you can fuck anybody you want to. 1922 01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:20,080 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what And then she proved it to me. 1923 01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,760 Speaker 1: She pulled her like she pulled her. She got my sister. 1924 01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:25,360 Speaker 1: She's a boiseexual, so she got cap she was and 1925 01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,920 Speaker 1: I said, she said, you said that if I can 1926 01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:29,360 Speaker 1: do it, you can do it. And from that point on, 1927 01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:32,640 Speaker 1: my confidence went from this to this because I look 1928 01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:35,080 Speaker 1: at the caliber woman she is. Oh she could do it. 1929 01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:37,680 Speaker 1: I can do That's my twin sister. So from that 1930 01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:39,720 Speaker 1: point on, anything I wanted to do, I said it, 1931 01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:42,160 Speaker 1: I did, I wanted to say. I said to anybody 1932 01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:45,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to fight, I follow And over the time, 1933 01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:47,519 Speaker 1: I just kind of got a respect a respect level, 1934 01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:48,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it's not because I 1935 01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:51,720 Speaker 1: come in demanding all you no, no, no no, but 1936 01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:55,080 Speaker 1: my presence commands respect, you know what I'm saying, because 1937 01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,200 Speaker 1: I give everybody equal to the mind of the respect. 1938 01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,560 Speaker 1: Now you disrespect me, and I'm not gonna disrespect you 1939 01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:02,439 Speaker 1: back because I'm allowed you to act a food. So 1940 01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,360 Speaker 1: then when situations happened, they're gonna run and tape back 1941 01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:06,960 Speaker 1: and be like, man, you really did get beat up 1942 01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,400 Speaker 1: black gay guy. You know what I'm saying. And I 1943 01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,559 Speaker 1: have to think about that. I was never really violing 1944 01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:13,519 Speaker 1: until I came in l U I'm saying, but it's 1945 01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,720 Speaker 1: more on a protection level. So for me, being I 1946 01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:20,599 Speaker 1: was downtown, it wasn't socially acceptable to be gay at all. 1947 01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:23,120 Speaker 1: So it wasn't like I could just walk around but 1948 01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:25,680 Speaker 1: I did and just be all gay and shit. But 1949 01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:26,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I just have to learn 1950 01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:29,320 Speaker 1: the levels. I'm saying, certain places, you do certain things, 1951 01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:31,880 Speaker 1: and that's just in adulthood you learned there's a time 1952 01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:33,479 Speaker 1: and a place for everything. You know what I'm saying. 1953 01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:35,599 Speaker 1: I can do whatever I want to in the safety 1954 01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:37,160 Speaker 1: of my room. When I step outside that door, I 1955 01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:40,040 Speaker 1: got saying, There's nine billion people looking at me at 1956 01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:41,880 Speaker 1: any given time. So I have to understand how to 1957 01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:43,519 Speaker 1: carry myself. And it taught me that, you know what 1958 01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, people don't understand when we go through things, 1959 01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:48,479 Speaker 1: you're supposed to learn something from it. If you don't, 1960 01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:51,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna repeat that lesson. Maybe not the same way, 1961 01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:52,960 Speaker 1: but you're gonna repeat that lesson until you learn it. 1962 01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:55,000 Speaker 1: And my mom told me this too. She said, Jimmy, 1963 01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:57,479 Speaker 1: whatever you're doing by the age of thirty, you're gonna 1964 01:46:57,520 --> 01:46:59,120 Speaker 1: be doing for the rest of your life. Oh wow. 1965 01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:03,560 Speaker 1: So I just turned thirty February fourteenth, Okay, and I 1966 01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:07,040 Speaker 1: was in prison and if my mental luck because I'm like, 1967 01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:08,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to be in prison for the rest 1968 01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:11,400 Speaker 1: of my life. So I had to do something different 1969 01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:14,160 Speaker 1: for me, you know what I'm saying. And a lot 1970 01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:16,120 Speaker 1: of people and I talked to him, they were like, oh, 1971 01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:17,280 Speaker 1: I want to do this, I want to do this, 1972 01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:19,599 Speaker 1: I want to do this. And I tell them, I said, well, 1973 01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:21,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because people are like, oh, 1974 01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:23,960 Speaker 1: you're in Hollywood right now. Yeah, I'm in Hollywood. Just 1975 01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:27,840 Speaker 1: come Literally I was. I had a tent downtown. I 1976 01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:29,479 Speaker 1: was living with this girl and the call. We was 1977 01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:32,040 Speaker 1: in and out having fun or whatever whatever. And I 1978 01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:35,640 Speaker 1: literally looked up one day and I was like, you 1979 01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:38,080 Speaker 1: know what, I'm done with this. I didn't take a tent, 1980 01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:39,960 Speaker 1: I didn't take a clothes, I didn't take none of that. 1981 01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:41,840 Speaker 1: And if you scan the room, you see I got 1982 01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:44,320 Speaker 1: all that. Now. I left what I had to do 1983 01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:47,439 Speaker 1: something better for myself, and I had the only way 1984 01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:49,599 Speaker 1: I can help people is if I helped myself first. 1985 01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:51,760 Speaker 1: And I learned that from Steve Party on The King's 1986 01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,040 Speaker 1: of Commedy. You know what I'm saying. There's no way. 1987 01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:56,560 Speaker 1: He said, if you got twelve broke friends, how do 1988 01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:59,640 Speaker 1: you help them? Don't become number thirteen? For sometimes you 1989 01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:01,439 Speaker 1: got to learn when to tell help people, and sometimes 1990 01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:02,880 Speaker 1: you gotta learn when to sit back and just allow 1991 01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,160 Speaker 1: them to do what they do. So like my friends 1992 01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:07,200 Speaker 1: here sleep you know what I'm saying. I offer him 1993 01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:10,040 Speaker 1: to come here Tuesday. He's made a choice to wait 1994 01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:12,600 Speaker 1: till Sunday. So you spend five days living on the 1995 01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:14,400 Speaker 1: street doing whatever you wanted to do when you could 1996 01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:17,120 Speaker 1: have been sleep. Well. You know, like I say, again, 1997 01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:19,800 Speaker 1: takes a process. And my uncle told me when I 1998 01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:21,360 Speaker 1: was twelve years old, he came to me, he said, Jim, 1999 01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:22,880 Speaker 1: I need you to learn one thing. One thing on 2000 01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:26,360 Speaker 1: it likes about two things, choices and consequences. The choices 2001 01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:30,280 Speaker 1: we make today have consequences tomorrow. We naturally take consequence 2002 01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:34,920 Speaker 1: in a negative connotation when truthfully it means consequence something 2003 01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:38,479 Speaker 1: that comes after sequence, something that happens after something else, 2004 01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,439 Speaker 1: Cause and effect. So when I learned that, that's why 2005 01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:43,479 Speaker 1: I said I made a choice to be homeless because 2006 01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:45,360 Speaker 1: no matter if I got a mental health issue, no 2007 01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:47,200 Speaker 1: matter if I have a gay issue, no matter if 2008 01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,600 Speaker 1: I have any kind of issue, I still made a 2009 01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:52,760 Speaker 1: conscious decision every day to be there. So when I 2010 01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,160 Speaker 1: made a conscious decision to do something better, something better, 2011 01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:59,519 Speaker 1: happen for me. Like I say, it's an individual thing, 2012 01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:03,360 Speaker 1: I take a disagreement to that because there are things 2013 01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of. The gentleman that I interviewed that has 2014 01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:09,360 Speaker 1: stage work cancer. You know he cannot You know that 2015 01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:12,360 Speaker 1: he didn't choose to be out on the street. He 2016 01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:15,840 Speaker 1: couldn't work because his wife already is dead, and he's 2017 01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:18,160 Speaker 1: out here and he's at the end of his life. 2018 01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:20,599 Speaker 1: You know, there's no way he's going to work himself 2019 01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:22,559 Speaker 1: out of it. There's no way he's going to get 2020 01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:25,160 Speaker 1: himself out. He's on his way into the next realm. 2021 01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:28,400 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things that happened to people 2022 01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:32,120 Speaker 1: that is not a bad choice life happens to us. 2023 01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:35,800 Speaker 1: For examples. The second example is the pandemic. No one 2024 01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,559 Speaker 1: that out here, that is living out on the street 2025 01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:41,479 Speaker 1: now chose to wanted to live out here. They had 2026 01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:44,400 Speaker 1: a place, they were working, they were doing all the 2027 01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:46,720 Speaker 1: things that they would necessarily happen. But they could not 2028 01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:50,559 Speaker 1: foresee a pandemic that shut their jobs down, that shut 2029 01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:52,800 Speaker 1: them from not being able to pay their rent or 2030 01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:56,639 Speaker 1: taking care of their families. So that's why when I say, 2031 01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:59,760 Speaker 1: you know this, the choice argument is a lot of 2032 01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:04,679 Speaker 1: time what people will try to use to blame unhouse people. 2033 01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:07,519 Speaker 1: And I want to clarify that distinction because I don't 2034 01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:11,679 Speaker 1: want my listeners want that. But I meant for myself, 2035 01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:15,200 Speaker 1: it was myself what happened to me. Yeah, you know 2036 01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:17,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. At any point from twenty four to thirty, 2037 01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:20,280 Speaker 1: I even went to rehab. I went to safe refuge. 2038 01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:24,080 Speaker 1: It used to be known as Essays so down Oh 2039 01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:26,400 Speaker 1: Okay in Long Beach because they had one. That don't 2040 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:28,519 Speaker 1: they have one. I was gonna say that I was 2041 01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:30,519 Speaker 1: skip off, but after one. Yeah, I was on the 2042 01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:32,840 Speaker 1: ankle monitor for three months, so I could not leave 2043 01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:36,040 Speaker 1: the program. The moment they took the ankle monitor off, 2044 01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:38,720 Speaker 1: I hit it. I made a choice, you know what 2045 01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I could have stayed in the program. I 2046 01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:42,760 Speaker 1: probably would have had my permanent housing by now, but 2047 01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:46,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't ready. And that that that's a lot about 2048 01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:49,080 Speaker 1: it too for me. For me, I have to be ready, 2049 01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:50,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was. I was so 2050 01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:53,760 Speaker 1: comfortable with living on the streets. I didn't care, you 2051 01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:55,479 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And this last time before I 2052 01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:58,080 Speaker 1: got arrested, that I mean literally one night, I just 2053 01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:00,639 Speaker 1: laid I put my I never done this before because 2054 01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm not the type of person that's gonna lay on 2055 01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:03,760 Speaker 1: the street. Even when I slept on the street, I 2056 01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:06,960 Speaker 1: had a bed on top of some palette, you know 2057 01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:09,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, with some blankets, so I can at 2058 01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:11,800 Speaker 1: least feel like, you know what I'm saying a little 2059 01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:13,920 Speaker 1: bit of comfortability, you know what I'm saying. And this 2060 01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:15,800 Speaker 1: last time, I was just like literally I laid a 2061 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:19,960 Speaker 1: piece of paper like I had this long tube of 2062 01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:21,960 Speaker 1: paper that just laid it out. I just lay it 2063 01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,720 Speaker 1: on top of the paper. And then that was a 2064 01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:26,880 Speaker 1: sign right there for me. And I tell people a 2065 01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:28,519 Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, we don't a lot of 2066 01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:30,960 Speaker 1: times we don't get arrested, we get rescued, and people 2067 01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:33,439 Speaker 1: don't understand what I mean when you sometimes when you 2068 01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:36,439 Speaker 1: go to jail, When you go to jail, it works 2069 01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:38,599 Speaker 1: out better for you than if you would have stayed 2070 01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:41,400 Speaker 1: on the streets. For me, it's my opinion. Everything I 2071 01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:43,840 Speaker 1: speak is my opinion. Nothing has been proven to be fact, 2072 01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:47,920 Speaker 1: because I just I can't fact check myself. But for me, 2073 01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:50,240 Speaker 1: when I got arrested, I was one hundred and twenty 2074 01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:53,080 Speaker 1: seven pounds as a grown man five to nine one 2075 01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:57,040 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seven pounds praisey. I was very thin, 2076 01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:00,600 Speaker 1: but I thought it was okay because I used to 2077 01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:02,560 Speaker 1: be when I was about sixteen, I used to be 2078 01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:04,560 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty seven pounds. I used to be 2079 01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I really got the pictures 2080 01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,040 Speaker 1: on visial you see me at my stomach like this, 2081 01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:16,439 Speaker 1: and literally, just like with this situation. I literally woke 2082 01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:19,080 Speaker 1: up one day and I didn't like what I saw. 2083 01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:21,360 Speaker 1: I looked in the mirror. I didn't like the fact 2084 01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:23,040 Speaker 1: that I couldn't see my toes when I looked at it. 2085 01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,360 Speaker 1: I didn't like the fact that I at sixteen, I 2086 01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:28,479 Speaker 1: gotta cell you like. So I started walking around the house. 2087 01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:31,439 Speaker 1: Then I started walking around the yard. Then I started 2088 01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:34,200 Speaker 1: walking around the neighborhood. Then I started walking around that 2089 01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:37,000 Speaker 1: entire neighborhood. And eventually, by the time I was eighteen, 2090 01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:39,080 Speaker 1: I had lost one hundred and twenty pounds just on 2091 01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:41,479 Speaker 1: my own and then in between times, I was still 2092 01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:44,439 Speaker 1: working at Windy's and Dunker Donuts. It's hard not to 2093 01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:46,680 Speaker 1: eat what you want to eat when you work there. 2094 01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:49,840 Speaker 1: But I had to learn self control and discipline at 2095 01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:51,920 Speaker 1: a young age. But I was really taught that when 2096 01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:54,120 Speaker 1: I was a kid, because there's some other that's going on. 2097 01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:57,200 Speaker 1: But I learned how to just discipline myself. And when 2098 01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,400 Speaker 1: I make a choice to do something, I'm gonna stick 2099 01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:01,439 Speaker 1: to that choice. You know what I'm saying. And that's 2100 01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm a real big believe on choices because that's the 2101 01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:06,680 Speaker 1: free will God gives us. What I'm saying for me, 2102 01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:09,120 Speaker 1: this is how I feel. I can't say how other 2103 01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:12,960 Speaker 1: people feel. I can explain their experience, but that's just mine. 2104 01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:16,639 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and speaking of the police, 2105 01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:21,120 Speaker 1: because I remember this time about three years ago, me 2106 01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,920 Speaker 1: and my ex we were sleep it was Christmas Eve, 2107 01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:29,400 Speaker 1: and this is how you know. The police are good people, 2108 01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:32,160 Speaker 1: but they still have a job to do. And I 2109 01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:35,000 Speaker 1: say they are good people because they're still a human 2110 01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:38,639 Speaker 1: being even though they do some we have to look, 2111 01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:41,240 Speaker 1: my uncle was a police officer. I gonna have to 2112 01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:45,160 Speaker 1: disagree on that because let me explain, that's what makes conversation. 2113 01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to say that when people 2114 01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:52,040 Speaker 1: talk about police brutality, because this is a real thing 2115 01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:56,599 Speaker 1: and the difficulty sometimes and I come from a Christian background. 2116 01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,920 Speaker 1: It's very hard to understand the difference that they're doing 2117 01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:01,960 Speaker 1: to what we were talking about. We ain't talking about 2118 01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:05,280 Speaker 1: a individual police officer that has nothing to do with it, 2119 01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:07,760 Speaker 1: and I think that's where we begin and end in 2120 01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:11,439 Speaker 1: that conversation. We are talking about a system where, even 2121 01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:16,200 Speaker 1: if they are good, they do some horrific, systematically bad things. 2122 01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:21,360 Speaker 1: For example, we could argue that when officer Frank Hernandez 2123 01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:24,160 Speaker 1: beat up that unhoused guy down in boil Heights, that 2124 01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:27,320 Speaker 1: woman that stood that officer that just stood there allowed 2125 01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:29,759 Speaker 1: him to do that could be considered a good officer. 2126 01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,200 Speaker 1: But she didn't do anything but stood there to let 2127 01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:36,640 Speaker 1: it happen. When George Floyd was getting his life snuffed out, 2128 01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:41,160 Speaker 1: three other officers sit nowhere near because if that's a 2129 01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:46,320 Speaker 1: criminal act, they're police officers. This god, This officer, despite 2130 01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:48,560 Speaker 1: he has a badge the gun, was breaking the law. 2131 01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:52,160 Speaker 1: They were in their legal right to arrest him and 2132 01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:55,880 Speaker 1: stop him from killing another's person. The problem is is 2133 01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:59,600 Speaker 1: that in particularly, there is laws that are in place 2134 01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:02,280 Speaker 1: for those good officers that have that job to do 2135 01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:06,880 Speaker 1: that will cause trauma, violence, and all kinds of things 2136 01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:11,280 Speaker 1: to the unhoused community, and some of the police officers 2137 01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:15,280 Speaker 1: that I unfortunately have interfaced with, are part of the 2138 01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:18,040 Speaker 1: problem because they pumped the other nimbies and they are 2139 01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:22,560 Speaker 1: vigilantes to do these things, so to do the most 2140 01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:27,160 Speaker 1: horrible things. Have them arrested, have them harassed, Nobody, nobody, 2141 01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:30,280 Speaker 1: despite how great they are as an officer, they work 2142 01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,720 Speaker 1: for the people. The people don't work for them. We 2143 01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:36,040 Speaker 1: are not supposed to be in fear of them. Their 2144 01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:39,040 Speaker 1: job is to protect and to service exactly all of us, 2145 01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:41,800 Speaker 1: all of us, all of us, not just one person, 2146 01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:45,680 Speaker 1: not just the businesses, not the city hall, not the nimbies, 2147 01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:49,280 Speaker 1: us too. One thing. You know, I can't agree, you 2148 01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:51,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. When I was on my real 2149 01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:54,880 Speaker 1: bad injury and I felt like people were following me, 2150 01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:56,680 Speaker 1: I don't care what everybody said that I felt like it. 2151 01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:58,480 Speaker 1: It might not have been true to anybody else, but 2152 01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:01,120 Speaker 1: I felt like it to the police, and I'm like, 2153 01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:03,720 Speaker 1: I need some help. I feel like my life's in danger. 2154 01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:06,640 Speaker 1: The first thing they said was when we cannot help 2155 01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:10,760 Speaker 1: you until something happens. Oh yeah, And I'm like, wait 2156 01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:12,720 Speaker 1: a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. So if 2157 01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:17,400 Speaker 1: somebody is trying to hurt me. You cannot protect me 2158 01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:22,680 Speaker 1: until I'm hurt. Then that's not protection because protection stops 2159 01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:25,280 Speaker 1: you from getting hurt. But here, conversely, if you were 2160 01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:28,480 Speaker 1: standing near some business owners building and they called, they 2161 01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:32,920 Speaker 1: can protect them because that's something you know, you but 2162 01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:35,280 Speaker 1: it's nothing happening to the business owner. You just happen 2163 01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:39,200 Speaker 1: just to be existing. That's the inequity that is always somehow. 2164 01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:43,600 Speaker 1: I'll give you that example. I will stab and several places. 2165 01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:46,720 Speaker 1: I lost the colon and had to be read. A 2166 01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:49,240 Speaker 1: lot of stuff has to be reattached and things. And 2167 01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:53,120 Speaker 1: it took the police over forty five minutes, and I'm 2168 01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:56,200 Speaker 1: bleeding out and I'm going in, like I was telling you, 2169 01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:59,480 Speaker 1: in and out of consciousness. And the people that got 2170 01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,160 Speaker 1: there first, who obviously was the abalance. By the time 2171 01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:04,560 Speaker 1: the police got there, I was on my way because 2172 01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:06,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't stand there give or sit there to give 2173 01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:09,680 Speaker 1: a statement. But the point of it is I was 2174 01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:12,960 Speaker 1: sitting in a park conversely, just minding my business. This 2175 01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:18,200 Speaker 1: woman seeing me sitting in the park not talking to anybody, well, 2176 01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:20,040 Speaker 1: people waving and talking to the men that I knew, 2177 01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:22,960 Speaker 1: and they felt threatened and called the police. Do you 2178 01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:26,080 Speaker 1: know it took like six police officers come by drive by, 2179 01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:29,760 Speaker 1: look as if I was this violent thug because of 2180 01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:33,960 Speaker 1: the thought that I because I'm in house, I am 2181 01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:37,920 Speaker 1: there and I am an eyesore to the community. That's 2182 01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:41,240 Speaker 1: what my sticking point is. That's why you know, you 2183 01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:43,600 Speaker 1: can be as kind and nice to give me a 2184 01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:46,040 Speaker 1: bottle of water, but if you're there to criminalize and 2185 01:57:46,160 --> 01:57:49,200 Speaker 1: put me in jail or incarcerate me, I don't need 2186 01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:51,840 Speaker 1: your water. I need you to treat me just as 2187 01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:54,960 Speaker 1: equitably as you treat those damn business owners or those 2188 01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:58,720 Speaker 1: business improved districts. So what do you think is the 2189 01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:02,800 Speaker 1: route of the issue. Because if we take the fact 2190 01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:05,040 Speaker 1: that there are people out of it, they're humans. Take 2191 01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:09,360 Speaker 1: that out of it. Who teaches, because that's a learned behavior. 2192 01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:12,840 Speaker 1: We get things two waytes nature and nurture. Nature is 2193 01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:14,800 Speaker 1: what you're born with. A lot of people don't understand. 2194 01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:19,440 Speaker 1: This is my opinion, not fact. You're not born with anything. 2195 01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:22,400 Speaker 1: You're not born with intelligence, you're not born with the sexuality. 2196 01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:26,600 Speaker 1: You're born with well five things, the basic need to survive. 2197 01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:32,520 Speaker 1: You're born with the ability to see, hopefully, feel, smell, taste, 2198 01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:36,680 Speaker 1: and here those what you're born with You're not born 2199 01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:40,280 Speaker 1: with the ability to do anything but cry when we 2200 01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:44,280 Speaker 1: because that's the only language I'm saying. So a lot 2201 01:58:44,320 --> 01:58:47,880 Speaker 1: of everything else in life is talk to us, either 2202 01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:51,240 Speaker 1: subconsciously just by watching other people, you know what I'm saying, 2203 01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:55,160 Speaker 1: or consciously going to school, listen to your parents. Those 2204 01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:59,440 Speaker 1: are things that everything's taught. So with the with the brutality, 2205 01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:03,680 Speaker 1: is it taught because it's not. You're not born with 2206 01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:06,280 Speaker 1: the ability to be well. You're I guess you're born 2207 01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:10,560 Speaker 1: with the ability to be brutal, brutal, but you're not 2208 01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:13,680 Speaker 1: born with the knowledge of how to do it well. 2209 01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:17,040 Speaker 1: I do take this is what I think. I think 2210 01:59:17,640 --> 01:59:21,960 Speaker 1: before they put on the uniform, they'rey educated about certain people, 2211 01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:25,879 Speaker 1: or they're not educated by certain people, and the empathy 2212 01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:28,520 Speaker 1: is not there about other people that don't look like them, 2213 01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:31,480 Speaker 1: or have the same experiences that they have or whatever. 2214 01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:34,040 Speaker 1: And then they have been educated because we have a 2215 01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:37,040 Speaker 1: system in place. Now I'm not talking about individual people. 2216 01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:39,480 Speaker 1: It's in place that even tho you you could be 2217 01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:43,880 Speaker 1: a kind hearted people, you have some implicit biases that 2218 01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:49,400 Speaker 1: crop up when confronted with a stressful situation. Case in point, 2219 01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:54,080 Speaker 1: when I was going to We were in Ventua County 2220 01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:58,280 Speaker 1: going to cover the rally, and I was going I 2221 01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:01,480 Speaker 1: think you were in the restroom. And I walked up 2222 02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:04,440 Speaker 1: and there was this white woman and I asked for 2223 02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:07,840 Speaker 1: the key to the bathroom. This white woman automatically just 2224 02:00:07,960 --> 02:00:10,360 Speaker 1: jumped and back like I was about to rob her. Now, 2225 02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:13,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know this woman. I had no intention of 2226 02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:15,640 Speaker 1: trying to rob her or anything like that. But just 2227 02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:18,600 Speaker 1: the idea is that she has in her mind that 2228 02:00:18,720 --> 02:00:21,280 Speaker 1: here's this black guy. You know, I know she's seen 2229 02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:24,000 Speaker 1: more than black people before, we all over the planet. 2230 02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:28,160 Speaker 1: But the idea, why did she feel that I was 2231 02:00:28,240 --> 02:00:29,960 Speaker 1: going to rob her when I'm like six or seven 2232 02:00:30,040 --> 02:00:32,920 Speaker 1: feet away from her asking for a bathroom key? And 2233 02:00:33,960 --> 02:00:36,920 Speaker 1: that question lies in the same issues is these people 2234 02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:40,120 Speaker 1: that put on these uniforms are calm with those same things. 2235 02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:42,880 Speaker 1: Look at what they put on their hands. I can breathe. 2236 02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:45,840 Speaker 1: When we were talking about I can't breathe, when George 2237 02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Floyd Freddie Gray is saying I can't breathe, and they 2238 02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:51,800 Speaker 1: said one of the cops are laughing at So these 2239 02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:58,320 Speaker 1: things are considerably taught to officers, maybe through the commanding officers. 2240 02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:01,640 Speaker 1: The pure pressure of the groups that if they speak 2241 02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:04,680 Speaker 1: out that they're gonna be targeted. So these things are 2242 02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:09,640 Speaker 1: they're they're the same systematic approaches when we talk about 2243 02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:12,840 Speaker 1: that there's no race issues, like, for example, instead los 2244 02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:15,640 Speaker 1: abisbo the whites have no idea that there was any 2245 02:01:15,720 --> 02:01:21,240 Speaker 1: racial tensions going on, no idea. I had to keep hetty. 2246 02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:23,600 Speaker 1: I said, why is it that the people of color 2247 02:01:23,720 --> 02:01:26,640 Speaker 1: keep saying that there are issues here and you guys 2248 02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:29,760 Speaker 1: keep saying it's not then and you're not listening to them. 2249 02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:31,760 Speaker 1: You keep saying that this is all in their head. 2250 02:01:32,160 --> 02:01:35,400 Speaker 1: Obviously if you're calling them or making a black face 2251 02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:39,800 Speaker 1: or calling them racial slurs, then that's obviously a problem 2252 02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:42,680 Speaker 1: to them, and you guys keep dismissing it. So it's 2253 02:01:43,080 --> 02:01:45,560 Speaker 1: with the same thing with police officers. They are the 2254 02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:48,920 Speaker 1: same people that ingest the same poisons that we all 2255 02:01:49,080 --> 02:01:52,120 Speaker 1: do in the system. That badge and that uniform does 2256 02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:56,000 Speaker 1: not protect police officers whatsoever from doing it. And good 2257 02:01:56,080 --> 02:02:00,280 Speaker 1: people can do bad things just like a bad people 2258 02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:03,680 Speaker 1: can do good things as well. But the longest short 2259 02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:06,400 Speaker 1: of it is this is a history that police officers 2260 02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:09,680 Speaker 1: are recalcitrant and acknowledging it and trying to make change. 2261 02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:13,960 Speaker 1: That's why we're protests, that's why we keep saying black 2262 02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:17,680 Speaker 1: lives matter. That's why we said, you know, defund the 2263 02:02:17,720 --> 02:02:22,280 Speaker 1: police because obviously anytime we talk about changing the police 2264 02:02:22,320 --> 02:02:27,040 Speaker 1: officer's budget, that's dominates the entire budget, fifty four percent 2265 02:02:27,480 --> 02:02:30,360 Speaker 1: of it. And when you get upsets, you get upset 2266 02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:34,040 Speaker 1: and retaliate and won't serve any police calls. That means 2267 02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:37,080 Speaker 1: it's a systematic problem that you refuse to acknowledge. You 2268 02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:40,520 Speaker 1: want to continue to do the abuses. That's why I say, 2269 02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's my thing. But we're almost running 2270 02:02:43,640 --> 02:02:48,120 Speaker 1: out of time, so let me sum this up and say, Jimmy, 2271 02:02:48,440 --> 02:02:51,840 Speaker 1: hopefully we can come back and interview you more further 2272 02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:54,960 Speaker 1: on this. I thank you all for listening and I've 2273 02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:57,160 Speaker 1: learned a lot from you. You've your story is definitely 2274 02:02:57,240 --> 02:03:01,280 Speaker 1: inspiring and you definitely have a point of view that 2275 02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:05,320 Speaker 1: I think it makes people think about the different facets 2276 02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:08,040 Speaker 1: of being in house, and I hope we meet again 2277 02:03:08,160 --> 02:03:11,880 Speaker 1: in a life understanding on you. Thank you, Veran, thank you, 2278 02:03:52,600 --> 02:03:55,120 Speaker 1: good afternoon. This is Stel Henderson from me in House 2279 02:03:55,760 --> 02:03:59,360 Speaker 1: and on our journey up to point out how the 2280 02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:03,640 Speaker 1: ineptay of the city is. We are showing how people 2281 02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:07,400 Speaker 1: who are not city affiliated have stepped up as usual. 2282 02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:13,040 Speaker 1: After they've done the damage of criminalization, harassing and barbering 2283 02:04:13,120 --> 02:04:16,480 Speaker 1: the unhoused community, they have taken them out kindly upon 2284 02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:20,920 Speaker 1: themselves and lives. A couple of the unhoused community. One 2285 02:04:20,960 --> 02:04:24,840 Speaker 1: of them is how he's a returning guest on our shelf, 2286 02:04:25,280 --> 02:04:27,200 Speaker 1: and I wanted to thank him for taking out of 2287 02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:29,560 Speaker 1: his busy schedule to chit chat with us and tell 2288 02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:32,200 Speaker 1: us his perspectives or things. Thank you very much out, Oh, 2289 02:04:32,240 --> 02:04:37,480 Speaker 1: you're welcome. As far as not being city affiliated, just 2290 02:04:37,600 --> 02:04:40,800 Speaker 1: because I wasn't born here doesn't mean that I don't 2291 02:04:40,840 --> 02:04:44,440 Speaker 1: call La home, Hollywood in La or home. I would 2292 02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:47,840 Speaker 1: never dream of going back to Tennessee for any kind 2293 02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:50,880 Speaker 1: of long term. I went back for a little while. 2294 02:04:51,800 --> 02:04:55,360 Speaker 1: When COVID nineteen first started being a thing, I panicked, 2295 02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:57,000 Speaker 1: and I thought, if I was going to have to 2296 02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:59,280 Speaker 1: survive somewhere, I needed to be in the woods, because 2297 02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:01,400 Speaker 1: I know how to survive in the woods. Don't have 2298 02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:06,200 Speaker 1: a whole lot of desert survival training. That's very true. 2299 02:05:06,760 --> 02:05:10,040 Speaker 1: Neither do I like that. But here is one of 2300 02:05:10,120 --> 02:05:12,160 Speaker 1: the things that I want to talk about a text 2301 02:05:12,240 --> 02:05:15,800 Speaker 1: some time to explore is that let's talk about the 2302 02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:20,760 Speaker 1: criminalization of the special enforcements all and the police officers 2303 02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:23,880 Speaker 1: that basically target you guys. We touched on it last time, 2304 02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:26,960 Speaker 1: but I want the new audience to get a full 2305 02:05:27,080 --> 02:05:31,960 Speaker 1: understanding how bad it really is. Uh. There has never 2306 02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:34,840 Speaker 1: been a time when I have interacted with police in 2307 02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:42,240 Speaker 1: Hollywood or l A in general that hasn't been violent, triggering, 2308 02:05:43,320 --> 02:05:49,440 Speaker 1: and generally dehumanizing. All Right, I am a human being. 2309 02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:52,840 Speaker 1: Just because I live outside does not mean that my 2310 02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:55,440 Speaker 1: constitutional rights back rate. I still have the right to 2311 02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:57,440 Speaker 1: move freely about the land. I still have the right 2312 02:05:57,520 --> 02:06:00,520 Speaker 1: to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and I 2313 02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:04,080 Speaker 1: can define those things under a capitalist society. Life that 2314 02:06:04,240 --> 02:06:07,400 Speaker 1: means I have the right to survive no matter what 2315 02:06:07,600 --> 02:06:09,760 Speaker 1: in any way I see fit. I have the right 2316 02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:12,320 Speaker 1: to survive. I have the right to liberty, and that 2317 02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:15,040 Speaker 1: means I have the right to make what choices I 2318 02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:20,680 Speaker 1: can to ensure my survival. And happiness is the amassing 2319 02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:24,640 Speaker 1: of things. We live in a capitalist society, and that's 2320 02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:29,120 Speaker 1: what is defined as happiness under that model. So every 2321 02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:34,560 Speaker 1: time I interact with police in this city, and pretty 2322 02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:40,640 Speaker 1: much counting all of those have been trampled on. Why 2323 02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:43,240 Speaker 1: is it that the police feel like that only certain 2324 02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:47,080 Speaker 1: people should have civil rights and some other people if not, 2325 02:06:47,280 --> 02:06:49,720 Speaker 1: for example, then them beings in the business owners feel 2326 02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:52,080 Speaker 1: like the young house should have no rights, they should 2327 02:06:52,160 --> 02:06:55,880 Speaker 1: be criminalized or far flung out of the neighborhood or 2328 02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:59,880 Speaker 1: or away from them, and to violate them at every time, 2329 02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:03,120 Speaker 1: at every instance. What is your thoughts on that? Uh? 2330 02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:06,480 Speaker 1: The police are not here to serve and protect the public. 2331 02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:10,320 Speaker 1: They're here to serve and protect the one percent concept 2332 02:07:10,400 --> 02:07:14,160 Speaker 1: of order. They are paid to put on the uniform 2333 02:07:14,200 --> 02:07:16,840 Speaker 1: of oppression every day and protect wealth that they will 2334 02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:20,920 Speaker 1: never hold. So tell me about the last the sweep 2335 02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:24,120 Speaker 1: to happen recently, because I understand that that you had 2336 02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:27,880 Speaker 1: some interesting interactions with them, So I would like to 2337 02:07:27,920 --> 02:07:33,040 Speaker 1: hear your side of Uh. First of all, Detective Sergeant 2338 02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:38,440 Speaker 1: Shannon Gainey approached me and used my given name, and 2339 02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:42,400 Speaker 1: I told her very directly and concisely that she was 2340 02:07:42,520 --> 02:07:44,520 Speaker 1: not my friend and she didn't get to call me that, 2341 02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:46,720 Speaker 1: and I that I was mister self made to her, 2342 02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:49,440 Speaker 1: and if she ever referred to me as anything but 2343 02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:53,560 Speaker 1: I would slap her with a harassment lawsuit. Wow, so 2344 02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:57,520 Speaker 1: I understand that that that. Did that escalate fervor or 2345 02:07:57,600 --> 02:07:59,920 Speaker 1: did it get no? She refused to speak to me 2346 02:08:00,240 --> 02:08:04,000 Speaker 1: after that, which is exactly the point I wanted. I 2347 02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:07,280 Speaker 1: always tell cops I do not consent to conversation. That's 2348 02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:09,960 Speaker 1: their whole mo. They try to trip you up in 2349 02:08:10,040 --> 02:08:13,840 Speaker 1: consensual conversation. If you do not consent to conversations, they 2350 02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:17,640 Speaker 1: hacked back off, cannot continue to press if they do, 2351 02:08:17,880 --> 02:08:21,440 Speaker 1: that is getting grounds for a harassment lawsuit. So here 2352 02:08:21,680 --> 02:08:23,880 Speaker 1: is the thing that we need to explore as well, 2353 02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:26,920 Speaker 1: is that how does it work when they come any 2354 02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:30,320 Speaker 1: special enforcements? One? Did what LASA out? There was sanitation 2355 02:08:30,440 --> 02:08:32,520 Speaker 1: out there? Did they try to take your things or anything? 2356 02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:37,360 Speaker 1: I was protected in this last suite? How was you protected? 2357 02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:42,800 Speaker 1: A couple of grassroots organizations got together and housed some 2358 02:08:43,040 --> 02:08:48,080 Speaker 1: folks from the Schrader Special Enforcement Zone in motel rooms. 2359 02:08:48,080 --> 02:08:49,760 Speaker 1: I'd like to give a big shout out to Street Watch, 2360 02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:56,200 Speaker 1: LA DSA and the LA Tennants Union. There are probably 2361 02:08:56,360 --> 02:08:59,880 Speaker 1: other organizations that pulled in for this. I think I'll 2362 02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:05,280 Speaker 1: okay Town for All was involved and they have housed 2363 02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:10,600 Speaker 1: us in hotels around the Special Enforcement Zone through the 2364 02:09:10,720 --> 02:09:13,800 Speaker 1: next week. I believe we check out wednesday as it 2365 02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:16,920 Speaker 1: stands right now. That is great, dudes, because I was 2366 02:09:16,960 --> 02:09:19,760 Speaker 1: hearing that they were trying trying to raise money to 2367 02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:21,640 Speaker 1: help you guys stay along. I am so happy to 2368 02:09:21,680 --> 02:09:24,360 Speaker 1: get that. I don't I don't want to say that 2369 02:09:24,600 --> 02:09:26,800 Speaker 1: for sure. I know that's what they were working on. 2370 02:09:27,120 --> 02:09:31,520 Speaker 1: And I heard a possible affirmative earlier today that we 2371 02:09:31,720 --> 02:09:34,560 Speaker 1: may be able to stay through Wednesday. That's great. I'm 2372 02:09:34,640 --> 02:09:36,880 Speaker 1: so happy because I trust me, I know this is 2373 02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:40,600 Speaker 1: not easy out here. One of the things too, prior 2374 02:09:40,680 --> 02:09:44,640 Speaker 1: to that, what is like for the audience to understand, 2375 02:09:44,760 --> 02:09:48,600 Speaker 1: because you're your husband I met a while ago, what 2376 02:09:48,800 --> 02:09:51,440 Speaker 1: is it like living out here in Hollywood? Conversely, living 2377 02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:54,280 Speaker 1: on the streets in Hollywood, what's what's the difficulties here? 2378 02:09:55,760 --> 02:10:01,560 Speaker 1: So the difficulties here as opposed to anywhere else. My 2379 02:10:01,720 --> 02:10:07,640 Speaker 1: only sin in LA is being poor. I came from 2380 02:10:07,680 --> 02:10:11,840 Speaker 1: Tennessee to escape some discrimination and hate. Uh and and 2381 02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm not yeah, I'm I'm transgender and queer. And if 2382 02:10:17,120 --> 02:10:19,080 Speaker 1: you're any shade of brown or any kind of different 2383 02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:21,760 Speaker 1: in the South, it's a problem. And it's just not 2384 02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:25,360 Speaker 1: a good scene. So that's why I ended up in Hollywood, 2385 02:10:26,080 --> 02:10:32,200 Speaker 1: and and that is that's my only sin here is 2386 02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:35,440 Speaker 1: being poor. I came to escape the hate, but I 2387 02:10:35,560 --> 02:10:39,000 Speaker 1: found another form of hate because I'm disabled and poor. 2388 02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:43,480 Speaker 1: If if people would just realize that we are all 2389 02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:47,000 Speaker 1: human and we are all neighbors, no matter if we 2390 02:10:47,120 --> 02:10:49,920 Speaker 1: have a concrete address or not, the world would be 2391 02:10:49,960 --> 02:10:52,840 Speaker 1: a better place. I'm not here to cause you any 2392 02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:57,880 Speaker 1: kind of distinct inconvenience. I'm sorry that my disability and 2393 02:10:58,480 --> 02:11:01,440 Speaker 1: the product of your whore has put me here and 2394 02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:04,680 Speaker 1: it makes you uncomfortable to see me on the street. 2395 02:11:05,000 --> 02:11:09,120 Speaker 1: If you want to change it, change yourself very well. Put. 2396 02:11:09,360 --> 02:11:11,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what is the things that you 2397 02:11:11,120 --> 02:11:13,520 Speaker 1: would like to see change and happen here that will 2398 02:11:13,600 --> 02:11:19,280 Speaker 1: help you and other people in your predicatm Okay for me, specifically, 2399 02:11:19,800 --> 02:11:22,200 Speaker 1: all of La County I believe is in violation of 2400 02:11:22,280 --> 02:11:25,320 Speaker 1: the ADA. I believe the ADA states that for every 2401 02:11:27,080 --> 02:11:32,080 Speaker 1: thousand residents in a county, you must have one ADA 2402 02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:38,360 Speaker 1: accessible low income unit La. La County has a population 2403 02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:43,040 Speaker 1: of something like ten million plus. That's one hundred thousand 2404 02:11:43,160 --> 02:11:49,040 Speaker 1: accessible units low income units as per federal law. Where 2405 02:11:49,120 --> 02:11:51,240 Speaker 1: are they and why am I not in one? Well, 2406 02:11:51,280 --> 02:11:53,520 Speaker 1: here's one of the things I would have to ask, 2407 02:11:53,760 --> 02:11:56,640 Speaker 1: is this What I noticed too, is why the city 2408 02:11:56,760 --> 02:12:01,680 Speaker 1: tends to listen to business owners and nim because anytime 2409 02:12:01,960 --> 02:12:07,520 Speaker 1: that supportive housing is introduced or tentatively talked about by 2410 02:12:07,600 --> 02:12:11,240 Speaker 1: the brashrooms organizations, here comes a bunch of hateful of 2411 02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:14,760 Speaker 1: people that I would not survive maybe a week out 2412 02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:17,800 Speaker 1: here on the streets, come and talk about that house 2413 02:12:17,840 --> 02:12:22,240 Speaker 1: people are a danger to children, old people, or the neighborhood. 2414 02:12:22,320 --> 02:12:25,280 Speaker 1: Valued property values, that's going down. They really care about 2415 02:12:25,320 --> 02:12:28,080 Speaker 1: their property values instead of human life, which is really 2416 02:12:28,120 --> 02:12:30,960 Speaker 1: disturbing and to say the least. But what's your insights 2417 02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:35,240 Speaker 1: on that? Again, anyone who values property over human life 2418 02:12:35,320 --> 02:12:39,280 Speaker 1: can just go pound saying I'm sorry, that's not what 2419 02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:46,320 Speaker 1: humanity is about. Humanity we are designed to be social 2420 02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:50,400 Speaker 1: creatures and take care of each other and be interdependent, 2421 02:12:50,640 --> 02:12:55,600 Speaker 1: not codependent. There's a big difference. And if more people 2422 02:12:55,640 --> 02:13:00,440 Speaker 1: could understand that interdependence is necessary for the bet of 2423 02:13:00,600 --> 02:13:03,920 Speaker 1: all of us and get rid of this ideal of 2424 02:13:04,040 --> 02:13:07,560 Speaker 1: I got my HOOKU, we could all be a lot 2425 02:13:07,680 --> 02:13:12,320 Speaker 1: better off. I understand, I agree. So what do you 2426 02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:14,280 Speaker 1: see because there's been a lot of protests. If you 2427 02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:18,120 Speaker 1: probably i'll serve as well, a lot of protests that's 2428 02:13:18,160 --> 02:13:21,800 Speaker 1: been going on. And what do you see what it 2429 02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:26,280 Speaker 1: take for the unhoused community to get together and to 2430 02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:30,800 Speaker 1: demand our seat at the table. I would love to 2431 02:13:30,920 --> 02:13:33,800 Speaker 1: see that happen, but I don't think it will. I 2432 02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:37,680 Speaker 1: think that the nimbies and the money and the power 2433 02:13:37,840 --> 02:13:41,440 Speaker 1: will always do what they can to silence and or 2434 02:13:41,600 --> 02:13:45,080 Speaker 1: eradicate us. I think it's not to gestapo tactics. It's 2435 02:13:45,120 --> 02:13:50,000 Speaker 1: a form of genocide and eugenics. And someday maybe the 2436 02:13:50,080 --> 02:13:53,560 Speaker 1: capitalist will realize that capitalism is cannibalistic and also its 2437 02:13:53,600 --> 02:13:56,080 Speaker 1: own grave digger. When you've got nobody else to flip 2438 02:13:56,120 --> 02:13:58,200 Speaker 1: your burgers and haul your trash, what are you gonna do. 2439 02:14:00,200 --> 02:14:03,080 Speaker 1: Maybe that's why they're trying to find if there's sustainable 2440 02:14:03,160 --> 02:14:05,640 Speaker 1: life over in Mars or off this planet. But I 2441 02:14:05,720 --> 02:14:09,320 Speaker 1: always have a very shudder about it. I know I 2442 02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:11,560 Speaker 1: have my own ideas on that too, but here's my 2443 02:14:11,960 --> 02:14:15,120 Speaker 1: as well. It's like I always as a younger child, 2444 02:14:15,240 --> 02:14:18,000 Speaker 1: as a younger black kid, I always found it bizarre 2445 02:14:18,440 --> 02:14:20,120 Speaker 1: that a bunch of white people are going in other 2446 02:14:20,120 --> 02:14:24,240 Speaker 1: people's lands in other planets after decimating the Native of 2447 02:14:24,240 --> 02:14:30,120 Speaker 1: Americans and the Native Indigenous people, enslaved flags and displaced 2448 02:14:30,520 --> 02:14:34,400 Speaker 1: a host of other other cultures, and in the arrogance 2449 02:14:34,440 --> 02:14:37,560 Speaker 1: of thinking that they're going to bring something to civilization 2450 02:14:37,840 --> 02:14:42,160 Speaker 1: that are probably having their own advanced high culture instead, 2451 02:14:42,240 --> 02:14:44,760 Speaker 1: and we bringing nothing but more in depth. So that's 2452 02:14:44,840 --> 02:14:47,000 Speaker 1: one of the things that I keep wondering why we're 2453 02:14:47,040 --> 02:14:50,320 Speaker 1: so helpent on space because we don't We can't solve 2454 02:14:50,360 --> 02:14:53,040 Speaker 1: the issues of learning how to respect the dignity of 2455 02:14:53,080 --> 02:14:56,240 Speaker 1: the unhoused communities and people of color right now. So 2456 02:14:56,640 --> 02:14:59,120 Speaker 1: what's your expection. We can't figure out how to treat 2457 02:14:59,200 --> 02:15:02,040 Speaker 1: everybody as an equal human being here on this planet. 2458 02:15:02,160 --> 02:15:06,400 Speaker 1: Why are we trying to colonize face? I have an 2459 02:15:06,440 --> 02:15:08,440 Speaker 1: answer for that, Yes, I have an answer for that. 2460 02:15:08,480 --> 02:15:10,520 Speaker 1: White people didn't belong on this planet in the first place. 2461 02:15:11,560 --> 02:15:13,160 Speaker 1: White people did not belong on this planet in the 2462 02:15:13,160 --> 02:15:16,400 Speaker 1: first place. There's an asteroid belt somewhere out between Jupiter 2463 02:15:16,480 --> 02:15:19,480 Speaker 1: and Neptune. I believe, I think that was the white 2464 02:15:19,520 --> 02:15:22,560 Speaker 1: folks planet, and they picked it up beyond all repair 2465 02:15:23,120 --> 02:15:25,720 Speaker 1: and spotted this third rock from the Sun that had 2466 02:15:26,040 --> 02:15:28,240 Speaker 1: life on it similar to theirs. And thought, let's go 2467 02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:32,880 Speaker 1: next up to well, that's certainly a unique's perspective I 2468 02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:36,000 Speaker 1: have who buy I'm not it? Have we failed? Have 2469 02:15:36,120 --> 02:15:42,480 Speaker 1: we failed? Okay, done that well? I thank you cal 2470 02:15:42,640 --> 02:15:44,840 Speaker 1: for taking time out from your busy schedule of telling 2471 02:15:44,960 --> 02:15:48,520 Speaker 1: us I'm about your perspectives. And again, it's always a pleasure. 2472 02:15:48,640 --> 02:15:51,840 Speaker 1: Hopefully we can invite you again and other happier times. 2473 02:15:52,040 --> 02:15:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm always glad to speak out, sir. Thank you for 2474 02:15:54,480 --> 02:15:57,360 Speaker 1: having me, Thank you for showing up. This is THEO 2475 02:15:57,440 --> 02:16:00,160 Speaker 1: Henderson from Whitty and Howse and I hope we learn 2476 02:16:00,240 --> 02:16:03,160 Speaker 1: something here and is my sincere hope that we meet 2477 02:16:03,320 --> 02:16:26,760 Speaker 1: in the light of understanding. Usually my outros are very short. 2478 02:16:27,080 --> 02:16:29,440 Speaker 1: Today I wanted to talk about something that has been 2479 02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:36,720 Speaker 1: weighing on the consciousness of the entire society recently. Kyle 2480 02:16:36,959 --> 02:16:42,039 Speaker 1: Rittenhouse open fired on Black Lives Matter protesters. He's being 2481 02:16:42,160 --> 02:16:45,080 Speaker 1: hailed as a hero, and he's been claimed that he's 2482 02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:48,800 Speaker 1: using self defense. When you consider the matter very closely, 2483 02:16:49,400 --> 02:16:51,640 Speaker 1: is why would an armed person go down into a 2484 02:16:51,720 --> 02:16:54,760 Speaker 1: state that they don't live in to go and corral 2485 02:16:55,000 --> 02:16:59,600 Speaker 1: and to intimidate protesters that are unarmed, And what gave 2486 02:16:59,680 --> 02:17:02,080 Speaker 1: him the right as an underage kid to go out 2487 02:17:02,120 --> 02:17:04,880 Speaker 1: and open fire on him. Because think of it like this, 2488 02:17:05,600 --> 02:17:08,360 Speaker 1: how many cases of white serial killers that had go 2489 02:17:08,520 --> 02:17:10,400 Speaker 1: in and open fire on them, and it's the people 2490 02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:13,160 Speaker 1: that are not are the usual response is to try 2491 02:17:13,200 --> 02:17:16,879 Speaker 1: to restrain that person. People are failing to realize when 2492 02:17:16,879 --> 02:17:18,800 Speaker 1: they were running to him, they were trying to stop 2493 02:17:18,879 --> 02:17:23,480 Speaker 1: him from doing the criminal a violent act. President Trump 2494 02:17:23,600 --> 02:17:27,720 Speaker 1: presides himself doing law and order. However he fails to 2495 02:17:27,800 --> 02:17:31,400 Speaker 1: call out this criminal a though. So there is where 2496 02:17:31,520 --> 02:17:34,360 Speaker 1: the case is. These people that are saying these kind 2497 02:17:34,360 --> 02:17:38,400 Speaker 1: of conversational points against black lives matter, they really don't 2498 02:17:38,440 --> 02:17:41,440 Speaker 1: care about the injustices that a black are going through. 2499 02:17:42,000 --> 02:17:44,360 Speaker 1: They just want you to be quiet, and if you 2500 02:17:44,440 --> 02:17:47,080 Speaker 1: don't be quiet, they will arm themselves up to make 2501 02:17:47,160 --> 02:17:53,160 Speaker 1: sure that you're forever silenced. In two days, Kyle Rittenhouse 2502 02:17:54,120 --> 02:17:58,440 Speaker 1: has raised over one hundred thousand dollars two days within 2503 02:17:58,480 --> 02:18:02,040 Speaker 1: a minimum amount of people. Organizations like weedi in House. 2504 02:18:02,440 --> 02:18:05,040 Speaker 1: We helped the in House UH create time for all 2505 02:18:05,120 --> 02:18:07,640 Speaker 1: to these other organizations. We are unable to raise that 2506 02:18:07,680 --> 02:18:12,200 Speaker 1: type of money within two days right now in Mi Patrion, 2507 02:18:12,360 --> 02:18:14,880 Speaker 1: which ryd of asking always to people to donate. I 2508 02:18:14,959 --> 02:18:19,120 Speaker 1: can barely get over it a grand after amount of 2509 02:18:19,200 --> 02:18:22,000 Speaker 1: work that I've done. So if we really wanted to 2510 02:18:22,040 --> 02:18:24,760 Speaker 1: talk about the injustices and white privilege, we have to 2511 02:18:24,840 --> 02:18:28,320 Speaker 1: look at it no further than Ky written House. What 2512 02:18:28,520 --> 02:18:31,840 Speaker 1: prompted the whole American society to sit there and give 2513 02:18:31,920 --> 02:18:34,959 Speaker 1: over a a a a quarter of a million dollars 2514 02:18:35,000 --> 02:18:39,120 Speaker 1: to a person that actually went and shocked to unarmed people. 2515 02:18:40,760 --> 02:18:43,440 Speaker 1: This is THEO Henderson from Weedia in House, and I 2516 02:18:43,520 --> 02:18:46,040 Speaker 1: thank you all for listening. And it is my hope 2517 02:18:46,080 --> 02:20:02,400 Speaker 1: we meet in the light of Runner Staf. I demand 2518 02:20:02,920 --> 02:20:03,280 Speaker 1: to comple