1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: All right, how you doing? Once again, everybody, I am 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: rous Salisburg, along with my partner Paul to Tino, welcoming 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: you once again to Big Blue Kickoff live here on 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Giants dot com. We are being aided by our very 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: talented Nicole Barrows. I got that right, Yes I did? 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: And uh, what can we say? It was not a 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: Giants It was not a big Blue. It might have 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: been a blue weekend, a blue Sunday, but it was 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: not a big Blue Sunday. Is that fair enough to say, hey, 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: why don't we just talk about the Yankees? No? Uh? 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: But having said that, I will say everybody, it's like, 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: here we go, here we go. And you know what 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: I what I said going into Monday, or I should 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: say going into Sunday. I also said on Monday, one 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: game doesn't make your season, it doesn't break your season, 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: and you move forward. Right now, the business at hand 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: has to be getting things straightened out, and particularly on defense, 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: in particular against the Buffalo Bills. Well, you don't want Russ. 19 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: I think of all the things that we said during 20 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: training camp, and there were a number of things, questions, 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: things that we pretty much thought were going to be better, 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: things that we still kind of think, you know this, 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: this isn't so good. A lot of those things came 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: to fruition on Sunday. Eli certainly looked as good as 25 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: we thought he would. The offensive line is improved. I 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: think they still need to get better, but they were improved. 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: The wide receiving corps showed that they could be productive. 28 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: Guys made some some catches downfield, did some good things. 29 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: The tight end of an Ingram certainly had the game 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: of his career. Yeah, that was I mean, it was right, 31 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: it was. I was very happy for him personally because 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: you know what uh he had with those doubts and 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: questions about him last season. He came back very strong, 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: what was it the last three four games, came back 35 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: and he carried it forward into the opener. He looked 36 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: like a guy who wants to be heard from. He 37 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: wants to make sure he's healthy. That's his goal for 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: all sixteen games. And if he's healthy for all sixteen games, 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: he's a big asset. Sure. So all of those things 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: that you know you thought positively about UH did show 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: up to some degree on Sunday. Then on the other 42 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: side of the ledger, well, there was concerned about some inexperience. 43 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: The Giants have eight rookies on their roster and twelve 44 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: second year players on their roster. That means twenty of 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: their fifty three players are either first or second year players. 46 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: That's dangerous. It's it's a recipe that early in the 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: season is going to bite you in the butt and 48 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: going to uh force you to watch and live through 49 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes. And so what did we see. 50 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: We saw a lack of continuity on defense. We saw 51 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: a number of mistakes. We saw a number of young fellas, 52 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: uh you know, get beaten. We also saw some veterans 53 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: make mistakes and get beaten. We also saw a better 54 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: rush defense than what we saw last year, which we, 55 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: by the way, thought we would say. And we also 56 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: saw the one huge achilles heel that we've been kind 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: of warning people about all summer, lack of pass rush. 58 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: It was just not there. Well, the lack of pass 59 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: rush though, um let's put it this way, call it 60 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: a perfect storm. If you have a bunch of I 61 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: think you know, you were mentioned all the rookies on defense, 62 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: five of them are I think five or six of 63 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: them are defensive backs. So if you have that in 64 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: your defensive backfield, you know, at various times, along with 65 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: the lack of a pass rush, that is the perfect 66 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: storm for what happened. I mean, we saw players wide open, 67 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: and you know, you know, I was wondering, and we 68 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: didn't get a definitive I mean, listening to the coach, 69 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: uh Pat Sherman yesterday on his conference call, you know, 70 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: a combination of things that he didn't definitively say it 71 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: was miscommunication of this and that. But obviously things broke down. 72 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean, there were guys wide open. But having said that, 73 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: we know what the pictures don't lie. It is what 74 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: it is, and that has to be addressed. I'm assuming 75 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: it's being addressed. If it hasn't been addressed already, it'll 76 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: be addressed all week. And the business at hand is 77 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: a buffalo bills. And you know, as they say, I 78 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: will repeat again, one game doesn't make or break your season, 79 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: but winning builds confidence, Losing takes it away. You want 80 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: to stop the bleeding immediately, pause, go ahead, No but once, 81 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: because if you don't start the bleeding immediately, then well 82 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: but then the snowball turns into the other. The media 83 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: and everything, no question, no question. So I'm with you. 84 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: I think the bigger question isn't about Hey, the Giants lost, 85 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: they didn't look good in it. Oh my goodness, now 86 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: what No, the bigger question is psychologically and mentally how 87 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: strong is this team and can they go out there 88 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: now and their home opener against a lesser opponent. The 89 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: Bills are not the Cowboys, and I'm not trying to 90 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: disrespect them, but they're not the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, 91 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: Cowboys have a better roster. Dallas Cowboys there a Super 92 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Bowl contender. You know what, After one Sunday you could 93 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: say that I'm not so sure that they are, but 94 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: Sunday they certainly looked like one. Dallas Cowboys. Whether they 95 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: were better team than Buffalo, Whether you like the Dallas 96 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: Cowboys because they're you're all drivals or not, the Dallas 97 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys are a very good team. Their offensive quality, defensive 98 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: lines very good. All right. Now, here's the point. The 99 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: Giants now need to stand up. And I said that 100 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: last week going into Dallas it's a statement game, make 101 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: a statement. They didn't make a statement. All all they 102 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: did was was come home with their tail between their legs. 103 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: A horrible performance in a horrible loss. Well, guess what. 104 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: Now you have another opportunity. As Tom Coughlin used to say, 105 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: opportunity knocks. This is your opportunity. Okay, young guys, old 106 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: guys alike, bond together. You never know what kind of 107 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: man you are until you face adversity. Well, the Giants 108 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: have now faced adversity. They got whacked in week number one. 109 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: How do they respond in their home opener against the 110 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, team that they certainly should be competitive against, 111 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: if not better than. Let's see it fellas. This to 112 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: me is twice as important as the game. But they 113 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: just lost in down. There's no question about that. Because 114 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: again you're coming home to your home fans, Your home 115 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: fans an hour already a little bit cranky because they 116 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: just saw a game that they were disheartened about. So 117 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: now you gotta make them happy and get them on 118 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: your side. And you know that that drive when they 119 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: went down and scored and took a seven nothing league, 120 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: you'd like to see that on the Giants first drive 121 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: here and get the crowd wrapped up. Yeah, it's about 122 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: turning things around. You can't fix what happened last week. 123 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: It's done. When I say you can't fix it, you 124 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: can address the problems that caused the defeat, but you 125 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: can't fix the score, can't change in it's an allegacy 126 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: your oh and one. 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That's two O one nine nine 137 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: four or five one three. Let's go to Pennsylvania and 138 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: check in with Joe. Hello Joe, how are we doing today? Uh? Wonderful? 139 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: Filling down like everybody by Paul. It wasn't long ago. Uh. 140 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: I remember we got Spags and I think his first year, 141 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: and we had Stray and Aussie and justin talk Russian 142 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: and we were giving up thirty game. Here's here's exactly 143 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: what happened. You gave up eighty points. Now listen I'm 144 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: not comparing this defense to that defense. You don't have 145 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: the the strays and the O c s and the 146 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: Antonio pierces. But since you brought it up, I'll tell 147 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: you exactly what they had. I think that they lost 148 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: forty five thirty five. They lost thirty five thirteen. They 149 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: gave up any eighty points in the first two games, 150 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: and then in the third game, Joe, that you bring 151 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: up in the third game, it was they were losing 152 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: seventeen three in Washington to the Redskins at the half, 153 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: and they subsequently won seventeen and that and that got 154 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: things turned around. So you happened to be right. And 155 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: believe me, they wanted to run Spags out of town 156 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: after those two games. I mean, it was like the 157 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: were of this coming to an end. And what I 158 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: want to say there is that was a veteran team 159 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: going in on a new defense where we have a 160 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: young team, you know what I mean, just Dallas with 161 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: their experience, their offensive lines in the receivers. You know what. 162 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: I I don't want to throw the cold ice water. 163 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to throw cold ice water on your 164 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: theory here. But that was two thousand seven and when 165 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: you're talking about guys like Talk and O C and 166 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: Michael Strahan on that defensive line. You knew you were 167 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: going to get pass rush because even if they didn't 168 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: get it in the first two games, at some point 169 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: in time, those guys were going to get to the quarterback. 170 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: Right now, can you honestly tell me any of these 171 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: guys is going to get to the quarterback in the 172 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: next month and a half. I'm just using the reference there, 173 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: I get. Yeah, I know, I understand. Their defense was 174 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,599 Speaker 1: more how more experience we were in the town we 175 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: had and we were still giving up. Here's the point 176 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: to be made, and we warned you of this during 177 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: training camp. It's going to take at least a month, 178 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: if not longer, for this defense to find its sea legs, 179 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: to find its identity, and you would expect that, let's say, 180 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: in week eight, week nine, week ten, this defense will 181 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: look a heck of a lot different than it did 182 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: the first week of September. That's true, that's true. You 183 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: believe that? Is that the same year in the Super 184 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: Bowl that we gave up fourteen points then to New England. 185 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but that's that's the entire point here, is 186 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 1: that you more during the course of the season. You know, 187 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: Dan Weaves used to say all the time, you never 188 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: stay the same. You either get better or you get worse, 189 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: but you never stay the same. What you just saw 190 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: on Sunday you will not see again this week. They'll 191 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: either be better or worse against the Bills. Yeah, well, okay, 192 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just so we have a lot of 193 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: young Town. The one play that really you know that 194 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: that was the one where they were calling Eli for 195 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: throwing the ball. But what happened to on that play 196 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: is can you can you call inner pass interference for 197 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: for them tackling? Uh? I forget who it was in 198 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: the end zone there. I think it was Shepherd. Could 199 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: we could we call a review on that play? I mean, 200 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you tell me when he's out of the 201 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: pocket the quarterback, then every every every defensive player can 202 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: just tackle error. That's the point. That's why you can't 203 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: throw the you cannot throw the review flag there. But 204 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: but if you really want to get down to it, 205 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: you talk about the intentional ground he call correct, Yeah, 206 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: that's that's okay. Yeah. My look, his arm was hit 207 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: and he was trying to get the ball to say 208 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: Kwan and the ball landed in his general direction. In 209 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: my opinion, there's no way that flag should have been thrown. Yeah, 210 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: I said they had, they had a ref. I forget 211 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: who the ref was that Fox went to said there 212 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: should have definitely been one in the end zone too. 213 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: On him being tacked, Well, I was on the field. 214 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: I wasn't watching it on TV, so I can you 215 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Paul, he they tackled them. That's 216 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: what I think. Can you can you review the play 217 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: just on that path? No? No, right, well he got mugged. 218 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: That's exactly you know, I know what we were just 219 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: talking to uh after lunch, we were talking about that. 220 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: I was talking about that today. Bob Popa was there 221 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: along with John Smolk. I was talking to a colch 222 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: shermer about that as well. And you know he was upset, 223 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: but it's done. Joe could have, should have, would have 224 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: don't matter. But see, it was a judgment call, and 225 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: it wasn't a judgment calling a receiver getting mugged in 226 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: and that's what he's the thing. And I'm I'm gonna 227 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: try to be very very succinct about this. The Giants 228 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: got their doors bowling off in doubtless. Okay, now you're right, 229 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: there were there were at least a handful of calls 230 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: that I felt went against them that were critical times 231 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: in the game that could have stemmed the flow of water, 232 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: that may have in fact stop the floodgates and may 233 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: have been able to give the Giants some kind of 234 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: spark to turn the game around. I'm not gonna tell 235 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: you that's not true, because I definitely believe that the 236 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: Giants were on the short end of a number of 237 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: breaks at critical times. But on the whole, they got 238 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: their doors blown off, and I can't tell you that 239 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: they would have come back in one because I don't 240 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: necessarily believe that. Thanks for the call, Joe, very much, 241 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: appreciate it, buddy, Thank you. Yeah, look um, some of them, 242 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: some of those were bad calls, but that's not the 243 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 1: reason they lost the game. That's the point that the 244 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: difference is. You know, if you get some of those 245 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: calls and you know, all of a sudden, who's well, 246 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: but you just don't know. Momentum takes you to But 247 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: you know what, Russ, they could have played a nine 248 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: hour game, and the way things were going that day, 249 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: Prescott was on fire and nobody was getting to him. 250 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: If he needed to throw passes to script of touchdowns, 251 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: he would have done it. That's that's that wasn't the 252 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: point Joe's making. Joe simply making a point of, you know, 253 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: doing some blown calls. And if you get some of 254 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: those blown calls, it was like to play in the 255 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: end zone. The reason he was p old h for 256 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, Coach Sherman, it looked like 257 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: Laddimer like I almost had his head ripped off. You know, 258 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm married. If we went back and reviewed every single 259 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: game this past Sunday, I guarantee you that there were 260 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: blown calls in every single one. But we're not talking 261 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: about the other games we're talking about. Yeah, but it's 262 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: it's but this is around the league. It's been this 263 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: way for here. That doesn't make it right if if 264 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't make it right, but it's the reality of it. Officiating, 265 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: the quality of officiating in the National Football League has 266 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: been deteriorating for very long, without question, and it's not 267 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: getting any better. Let's again to one five, one three 268 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: is the number you are listening to Big Blue Kickoff 269 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: Live here, presented to you by Corpse like let's go 270 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: to Rochester and check in with Doug. Hello, Doug, how 271 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: are we doing today? Very welcome back. I mean that 272 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: start to you last week and any paul Um you're 273 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: us in the poul give me a tast to get 274 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: a couple of days across. Um. I want to start 275 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: with Jean Baker. He had to keep his head up. 276 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: It's real important that the cornerbacks have to keep their 277 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: head up because they have to understand Maria Cooper is 278 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: the best route runner in the NFL, and they went 279 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: through one of elite past the receiving crew. So they 280 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: they have to understand that what there was going against, 281 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: and they gotta keep their head up and they gotta 282 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: keep keep practicing hard because um, Maria Cooper can make 283 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: any cornerback look silly, all right, So they have to 284 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: realize that. Okay, in the past rush you know, I 285 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what's going on, but you 286 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: know the Today, I want to talk about the office, 287 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: John and last brought this up yesterday, the office with 288 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: two for a lessons. Okay, set the office that keeps 289 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: that was on the sideline and that keeps the defense 290 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: on the sideline. So I'll blame the offense. There's as 291 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: much of the difference that two for eleven third down 292 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: conversive was not good. Well, that made a big difference. 293 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would dispute that, Doug. You know, listen, 294 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: if you have a defense that is um, how shall 295 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: we say, lacking or inexperienced, Okay, I think we all 296 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: would agree on that, and thanks for the called, Doug. 297 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: But if if that would be the case, then the 298 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: best way, you know, what's the best way to keep 299 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: the Tom Brady's from scoring is to keep him off 300 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: the field. So when you as you say, he makes it, 301 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: very good point, Doug, when you two for eleven on 302 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: third down, that doesn't help the situation because think about 303 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: how much more time if you got if you are 304 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: half of those uh, if you're converted five, you know 305 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: how much more how many more minutes does that give you? 306 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: Gives your offense the ball, So that that that is 307 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: a good point. But no, I'm listening, I'm not gonna 308 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: blame the offense as much. Look, you win as a team, 309 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: and you you win as a team and you loses 310 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: the team. But clearly in this one, you gotta point 311 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: the finger at the defense. I'm sorry. Let's go down 312 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: to Atlanta check in with our old friend Trey. Hey, Trey, 313 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: how are you doing today, Buddy? Hey, was a roughday. 314 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: Pete out, how's it going. Well? I got to answer 315 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: to your question. I'm gonna tell you why there was 316 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: no passwords. The secondary and your and your front seven 317 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: is supposed to work together. Correct, Go ahead. Well, I 318 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: sat down and watched the table, pulled up the coach's tape, 319 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: look at the Smiths, and I'm gonna tell you. I'm 320 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: gonna tell you why Amrita, Cooper, Gallop and Um and 321 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: Cobb was always open. There was no They have free releases. 322 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: Same thing with all the all the tight ends free releases. 323 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: It makes actually no sense for you to be ten 324 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: to fifteen yards back. Give them that much of a cushion. 325 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: They can do whatever they want. And the reason why 326 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: that was able to survey the field is one we didn't. 327 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: We did nothing to do Um disrupt the timing of 328 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: the light receivers and nothing to disruptive timing of Prescott trade. 329 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: Before you go anywhere, Uh, that's a philosophical issue that 330 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: you have to decide going into the game as to 331 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: how much of a release or a cushion you're gonna 332 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: give somebody, or are you gonna jam and and play, 333 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: bump and run and are you gonna get in their 334 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: grill and get nasty and sticky with them the first 335 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: five yards off the line like you're allowed to. That's 336 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: a philosophical decision that you have to make going into 337 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: the game and say, listen, this is how we're gonna 338 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: play this game now. So if you want to say 339 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: to me that they didn't do that, I'm not going 340 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: to disagree with you. I was on the field, I 341 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: saw it, and I know how many times that that 342 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: guys were getting free releases. I get it. But that's 343 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: a philosophical decision. That's not necessarily something that the Cowboys 344 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: were doing to the Giants, or the Giants weren't doing. 345 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: If they're following directions and they're being told, look, this 346 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: is the coverage we're playing. Now, you have to say, philosophically, 347 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: do you side in this particular match up against the Bills. 348 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: You want to change the philosophy that that's that's really 349 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: what you have to address. Well, I understand that, but 350 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 1: the thing is, um we also have to look at 351 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: the fact that you know there was no really in 352 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: reference to coverage, there was no change coming out of 353 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: a half. Um if you if they're third and fourth, 354 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: third and six, you can't give him a seven seven 355 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: yard cushion. You know we have and that and be honestly, 356 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: I think that's what'll put um Antonio Hamilton's behind the 357 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: eight ball because he was trailing every place, every place 358 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: coming behind. You know what, trade, Thanks for the call, buddy. 359 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: You know, Paul and I were saying all through camp, 360 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: am I right? We thought Antonio Brown might have been 361 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: Antonio was playing himself on to the fifty three. I'll 362 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: tell you that Tonio Hamilton's had one of the better 363 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: camps of all the giants. He just had a miserable 364 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: first game. But he I'll give you an example of 365 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: why you had a miserable first game. Getting beat is 366 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: one thing to me, and I will say this till 367 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm blew in the face. This is the National Football League. 368 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: You gotta tackle. There was some poor tackling as well. 369 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: You gotta tackle. I don't I don't care if he's 370 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: already beaten you by ten yards, tackle him. And Tony 371 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: Hamilton had himself a rough game. Uh to oh one 372 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: four or five one three is the number. Let's go 373 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: to our dear friend up in Maine. You know who 374 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: that is, don't you, Bully, Yeah, I'll go right ahead, Charlie. Hello, Charlie, 375 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: how are you, buddy? O? Hey, I got I got 376 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: about three or four things, so they're there by the way. Charlie, 377 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: are you the only resident of Maine? Because nobody else 378 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: ever calls us from that state ever? I mean, I'm 379 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that like nobody wants to move next door 380 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: to you. Charlie. You're probably living in the in the 381 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: world in at someplace, and just you got your computer 382 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: with you, you got your TV, and you're all set. Yeah, 383 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: and he knows he's got Yeah, he's got. He's got 384 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: a cute in the Big Blue Kickoff live here on 385 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: giants dot Com. And you're all set, all right, go 386 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: ahead there, Charlie, Charlie, Hey, I just want to say 387 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: one thing about the tackling of a shepherd in the 388 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: end zone. Now, the reasoning the rest gave was because 389 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback was out of the pocket. Yes, that is 390 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: the most bogus call. What I would have done if 391 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: I was the coach, I would have said anytime press 392 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 1: clock gets out of the product, you tackle your wide receiver, 393 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: you tackle the tight end, you tackle the running back. 394 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: Because it's not a file. That is the stupidest, that 395 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 1: is stupidest reasoning. That is bogus. That is the worst 396 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: call in almost the history of the co chairman was 397 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: pretty uh, pretty pretty upset about it. Also quite correct 398 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, Paul and Alie. It looked to 399 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: me as if he was almost a helmet the helmet 400 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: there as well. I thought, Lawrence Lawrence true call, then 401 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: just tackle everybody when when the quarterbacks out of the pocket. 402 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: Here's the deal that uh Lawrence, Uh, DeMarcus Lawrence. Right 403 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: before he hit Elie, he lowered the top of the 404 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: crown of his helmet and he smacked Elie helmet the helmet. 405 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: There is no question, There is no question, especially the 406 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: way they protect quarterbacks in this league nowadays, that was 407 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: clearly a personal foul. It would have given the Giants 408 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: a first in goal. But that's that's the point of 409 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. And then you know it wasn't seen. No, no, 410 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: I'm glad it's on the video. By the way, I'm 411 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: not telling you anything. You can't see. It's there but 412 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: that you know what, Charlie, that's I'm glad you brought 413 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: it up at Paul, That's what we were talking about before. 414 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: While they might have been outplayed and clearly on defense, 415 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: those little things go against you. It makes it a 416 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: different football game. I'm glad you brought it up, Charlotte. 417 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: What else, Hey, Okay on bets his defense. He's got 418 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: to understand he's not he doesn't have Arizona's team anymore. 419 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: He has to simplify his scheme. Even carl Banks was 420 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: saying it after the postgame show, You've got to simplify 421 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: your scheme. You don't have the players you used to have. 422 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: You've got to scheme to the strength of your players. Now. 423 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: I don't know why Hamilton's started. He was injured, he 424 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: had an abductor and he didn't wasn't in the preseason 425 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: that much. You had where where was Where was Valentine? 426 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: He was there the whole preseason. He played damn well, 427 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: he should have been in there. So I don't know 428 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: who made that decision, but we found out it wasn't 429 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: a very good one. Now let me move on. Secondly, Sumer, 430 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: it's got to use the strength of his players in 431 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: his scheme, not his make his scheme hit the players. Eli. 432 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: His strength is not rolling out of the pocket. Your 433 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: strength is given in the ball to see Quon Barkley 434 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: twice on the third and two in the fourth and one. 435 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: And we just got this new offensive line on the 436 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: right side, use them run over there. And if we 437 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: can't get two yards with our new offensive line and 438 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: Barkley in the backfield, and so be it. But to 439 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: utilize Eli not his strength. His strength is play action. 440 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: Just it just blows my mind. And and Schumer if 441 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: he keeps and then he said in the press conference, 442 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: I do it all over again. There's nothing wrong with 443 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: my play calling. And all I'm saying is that he 444 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: has another play calling like this. If gentleman doesn't tell 445 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: him to sit out and give it to Mike Schuler, 446 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what we're gonna do because he's got 447 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: to learn. I mean, I know we had over four 448 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: hundred yards and it worked, but not in the red zone. 449 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: It didn't work. He's got to use Barkley. We have 450 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: to use our offensive line. That's the that was the 451 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: bright points in this game was those two two areas 452 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: that hold on, hold, hold on, I want to mark 453 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 1: this day down September two. Did you hear what Charlie 454 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: just says that right spot was our offensive line? I heard, Chollie, Charlie, Charlie, 455 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: I get about it. You made on date, Charlie, nothing 456 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: else matters. Charlie was happy with the offensive line. I 457 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: don't get it. My suspicion is Charlie and I don't 458 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: know the answer to this. I have not James Betcher 459 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: uh doesn't talk until later in the week. I believe 460 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: it's on Thursday, the coredators have conversation with the media, 461 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: so we'll get a chance to talk to him at 462 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: that point, and potentially we'll get an answer from him. Um, 463 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess, and again it's strictly a guess. Maybe 464 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: they felt that first game Jitters, it might be a 465 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: little much for him. Maybe I happen to think that 466 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: was the case. What a lot of the situation there, 467 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, it was just like we were saying, I 468 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: don't you know if I don't know, if you heard 469 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: you've been listening since you know, we opened up the show, Charlie. 470 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: But you know there are guys listen. You have like 471 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: five or six defensive backs and they're all rookies. You know. 472 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: I happen to think that what what Paul just said 473 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: had a lot to do with it. Maybe maybe we're wrong. 474 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: Bakers strength was bumped and run, wasn't it get in there? 475 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: I think maybe they were just talking about thinking. And again, 476 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: this is just guessing, Charlie. I'm not saying that it's 477 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: the answer. I haven't been given this by anybody. You know, 478 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: he had he was a little gimpy during a preseason 479 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: with the knee, so maybe they were thinking about the workload. 480 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, but moving forward, Uh, let's put it 481 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: this way. It's got to be corrected, all right, Charlie. Look, 482 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: I call it Baker the Undertaker. Well this time Baker 483 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: was taken to the Undertaker. So very good. Thanks guys. 484 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: Listen to that, Charlie, thank you very much. All all 485 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Charlie, think about this. This is a 486 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: record setting day. Charlie was happy with the offensive life. 487 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: I know. I can't wait to David Deal tomorrow. Alright, folks, 488 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: just to remind the Big Blue Kickoff live here, brought 489 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: to you by coorse Light. If you want to enter 490 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: to win the Ultimate v I p gained the experienced 491 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: courtesy of course light. What you need to do is 492 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: text v I P two nine oh four six four. 493 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: That is nine oh four six four for more details 494 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: to nine four five one three remains the number. Let's 495 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: go to Brooklyn. I want to add one more thing 496 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 1: called Russ because we would talk about the rookies. Remember 497 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: when we're talking about these rookies and these young and 498 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: experienced guys, we're not just talking secondary because we're also 499 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: talking dex Del Lawrence, who quite frankly had a very 500 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: quiet game in his first pro regular season contest. Uh 501 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: Oshane Simmonez who you know, and we'll let's listen. It's unfair. 502 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: It's unfair to put as much pressure on these guys 503 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: shoulders as some of us have because we like what 504 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: they did during training camp. But as I've said to you, 505 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: the Giants are in a situation where they need as 506 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: much production as quickly as possible from guys like Lawrence upfront, 507 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: Guys like Ziminez coming off at the edge, guy like 508 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: Ryan Connolly, who also got a lot of playing time 509 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: the other day against the Cowboys. These guys are all rookies. 510 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: So is Valentine and and so is uh DeAndre Baker. 511 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna take time for these guys to mature and 512 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: to get their legs under them. The problem is, in 513 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: some ways the Giants don't have that luxury. They need 514 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: more immediate production, which is why Russ and I say 515 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: this one more time, and I'm not gonna say it 516 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: the rest of the show. I said minimum two and 517 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: two by the end of September. Don't grade this team 518 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: after week one. Grade this team after September is over 519 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: their four games in and then see where they're at. Well, 520 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: if they're dogie paddling at two and two, it's perfectly acceptable. Look, 521 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: we said it last week. You and I said it 522 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: when I said it with David Deal as well as 523 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: coaches do. This season goes into quarters. Listen, four and 524 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: oh would have been lovely. It ain't happening three three 525 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: and oh, Three and one would be just fine. Two 526 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: and two, though, two and two would be very acceptable. 527 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: When you're talking about a team that has young talent, 528 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: and you know, like I say, four and it would 529 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: have been nice but unrealistic. I think that probably would 530 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: be fair to say, let's go to Brooklyn check in 531 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: with Jay Jay, how are you doing. Hey, it's good 532 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: to talk to two old old school guys over here. 533 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: You got rough I used to watch on Channel nine, 534 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: and Paul, you've been around the team forever, so it's 535 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: good to talk to you too. Thanks. Hey, just real quick, 536 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna overreact to week one. We all know that. 537 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: A couple of things. Paul, and I know you. This 538 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: is the one I can telling your voice you're worried about. 539 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: I can see them fixing the secondary issues, you know, 540 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: the miscommunication, the coverage stuff like that. The one thing 541 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: I cannot see on this team is where is this 542 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: pass for us coming from? Ball? Yeah? It's uh, it's 543 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: the million dollar question. We've been asking it since the 544 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: training camp started, and right now I don't know where 545 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: it's coming from. They just picked up They just picked 546 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: up a linebacker yesterday. What's his name? Two Tsar, there's 547 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: a summer Skipper. Skipper had five sacks during the four 548 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: preseason games with Pittsburgh's an outside linebacker goes like six 549 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: three pounds out of the University of Toledo, had like 550 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: nine sacks last year, like ten or eleven tackles for losses. 551 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: He's an outside backer at a three or four scheme. 552 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: The Steelers tried to sneak him through to the practice squad. 553 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: Yesterday the Giants grabbed him off waivers. He missed most 554 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: of the two thousand seventeen season with a torn a 555 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: c l so now it's his second year back again. 556 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: Five sacks and four preseason games showed what I was 557 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: told to be a lot of explosive quickness off the edge, 558 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: and the Giants just grabbed him. Uh, you know, in 559 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours. Maybe, just maybe, And it 560 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: sounds so horrible to think that they gotta they gotta 561 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: pick up a scrap like that. And I'm using the 562 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: term loosely because again he's cut from another team without 563 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: a proven resume. Um, maybe, just maybe he can help 564 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: supply a spark too, because I gotta tell you something 565 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: right now, I was very disappointed, and Russ, the tape 566 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: doesn't lie. You know. You look at at at what 567 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 1: what x Men and Golden and and Lorenzo Carter did 568 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: the other day in Dallas, and none of them, none 569 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: of them got to the quarterback, none of them. And 570 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: that's and and those are three guys the Giants are 571 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: going to have to get production from. So you're right, 572 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: You're right. This but this is this has been the 573 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: number one achilles heel and the number one concerned and 574 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: the thinnest spot on the team for months. We've all 575 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: known that this is a potential potential killer. And you 576 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 1: know so, I'm with you. I think the secondary can 577 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: be fixed. I'm not so sure the pass rush can be. 578 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to find a way to do it. 579 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: And you guys hit it on the head with the 580 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: with you know, the giants in a in a perfect world, 581 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: they need time to put this together. But you guys 582 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: know more than anyone You've been in the business for 583 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: a long time, there's an avalanche of nonsense ready to 584 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: hit this team if they start losing. You're not kidding. 585 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: That's the nature to beast. Jay. Thanks for the call, buddy, 586 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: But that's the way it is. I mean, we addressed 587 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: that earlier. That's the fear here because around here it 588 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: just gets ugly. Yesterday. I mean, look, last week, some 589 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: of the questions that I heard were absolutely ridiculous. I 590 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: mean that on Monday they were asking Daniel Jones, what's 591 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: it gonna feel like not starting for the first time 592 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: since high school? I mean, this is what you're asking, 593 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: you're asking the guy who's your backup quarterback? What's this 594 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: gonna be like for not starting for the first time? 595 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: And then on Friday, when coach Shermer standing at Paul 596 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: and I looked at each other, you could have knocked 597 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: us over with a feather. Here you are on the 598 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: brink of the NFL season opening weekend, You're playing the 599 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys in Dallas, and the question is, coach, who's 600 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: your backup quarterback? Daniel Jones. Does that mean he's gonna 601 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: address No, Paul Tatino is gonna address No. No, He's 602 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: only gonna address one quarterback. I mean, you know, but 603 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: so yeah, when you talk about an avalanche, an avalanche 604 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: of nonsense, because that's the whole other narrative that everybody 605 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: wants you got, you gotta worry about that. Because one 606 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: of the things that that Dave Gentleman says is his 607 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: priority is to eliminate the outside distractions. And we talk 608 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: about the theme of this team during training camp was 609 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: all ball. The problem is the outside distractions really start 610 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: pounding the walls of the building when you lose, especially 611 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: earlier in the season, those those outside distractions start to 612 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: see and you do everything you can to stop them, 613 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: but they get stronger and stronger and stronger. If if 614 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: the record does not turn around her and hurt, and 615 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: you hope the character of the guys do not let 616 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: that affect them, which for sure I think there is 617 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: plenty of character in their young and old. But nonetheless 618 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: it becomes a pain in the keysta lack of a term. Uh, 619 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: let's go to d C. Check in with Tony. How 620 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: are you doing today? Tone? Hey, you guys? Thanks? Take 621 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: him on call. What's going on? Tony? So I want 622 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: to get to the office. But a quick tiny defense 623 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: of the sense. Look, they playing the best football this Sunday. 624 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: They got four All pros blocking, they got the three 625 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: linemen and six snaw Pro and maybe the best Blarny 626 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: running back in football. And they got some of the 627 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: best route runners in the elite on it. Now they 628 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: were now our decause was awful. I'm not defending their performance, 629 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: but if you want to talk about what could go 630 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: wrong went wrong? It was everything That team things are 631 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: going to a super Bowl and you know we all 632 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: where we are so onto the more you know, pressing matter, 633 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: which is causing a lot of division within MODELO Giants 634 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: fan um group is what this offense did or didn't 635 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: do on Sunday. And um, gentlemen, when he rolled out 636 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: Elon Manning on that fourth and one, that's what that was. 637 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: When it hit me. Okay, Pat Shermer is one of 638 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,479 Speaker 1: those coaches, and it could be a good thing where 639 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: in his mind, the best player on the field is 640 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: the system. The best chance to win is the system. 641 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: The best thing that gives you the opportunity to win 642 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: is the system. And and look, he we are not 643 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: going to get a running team similar to like the 644 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos in the nineties. But the no, that's not 645 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: his system. It is a West Coast offense. He will 646 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: throw the ball four passes by Eli, eleven carries by 647 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: Stake one. And I don't think Sake one would get 648 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: twenty carriages this whole season. I would take the younger, 649 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: but I would that I would go that. I mean, 650 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: but I I see where you're going, Tony, go ahead. 651 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 1: He better get a lot more than on giving Sunday. 652 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: He better. But the system is and here's the thing. 653 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: And he comes from the cloth of Andy Reid, and 654 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: you know those kind of play calling off offensive on 655 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 1: minded coaches. If you're gonna do that, you cannot lose 656 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: yourself screaming at the refs and then and then and 657 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: then order the offense. You can't do it. You can't argue, 658 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: Hail Mary. You're not gonna be put on the one 659 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: yard line. On hell Mary, It's not gonna happen. You 660 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: gotta keep I mean, you look at um um and 661 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: you eat it um. That play caller who used to 662 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: work for Green Bay. They were corpses on the sideline. 663 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: You have to be because it's so hard to manage 664 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: the game while directing the offense. Well, you want, you 665 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: make a fair point, but listen and thank you for 666 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: the call. I just Sherman had every right to be 667 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 1: poled about that play. Okay, he had. He had every 668 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: right to be. You know, listen, I want my coach 669 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: if he sees something that he doesn't like, I want 670 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: him aggravated, and I want him letting the reps know. 671 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: As Paul said that the officiating in this league is 672 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: not getting better, it's getting worse. They need to be 673 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: kept on their toes just like players need to be 674 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: kept on their toes, just like coaches need to be 675 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: kept on their toes. So you know, I get what 676 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: you're saying, tone, but but you know, I'm certainly not 677 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: going to chastise a coach for getting angry over something 678 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 1: that he thinks went wrong. And what you know, Paul 679 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: was just showing me some some game highlights here. And 680 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: you're right, there was some lousy calls by the by 681 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: the officiating. I'm not saying that's why they lost. I 682 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: do need to correct one thing. Lorenzo Carter did have 683 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: one quarterback hit in the game. I'm sorry, I said, 684 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: but for that. The three of those guys did not, 685 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: and Carter did have one day Davis had one. So 686 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: they hit the quarterback twice in the game. No sacks. 687 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 1: Two quarterback hits not enough. But by the way, it's 688 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: just because you bring up and I forget the play 689 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: where it was. I was making my notes. I don't 690 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 1: have him in front of me. He did make a 691 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: hell of a play on a pass that he broke up. 692 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: Um what don't if it was running back or whatever, 693 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: but I mean he raced down and somehow, you know, 694 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: got there in time to break up the past. I forget, 695 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: you know, the play that it was. You know, it's 696 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: just that, right, now where the Giants stand again, they 697 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: need more impact and more production for more defensive players 698 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: in a hurry. The sooner the better. And and it's 699 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: it's difficult because you know, you have to have patience 700 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: as this team tries to grow and tries to become 701 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: more and more competitive weekend and week out. The problem 702 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: is none of us want to wait that long. Well, 703 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: but it was too bad, I mean, and that's the reality. 704 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: Too bad that's going to have to so um, but 705 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: sooner or later becomes sooner the better becomes this coming 706 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: Sunday at MetLife Stadium against the Buffalo Bills. But in 707 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: the meantime, let's go to Ross in Philadelphia. Hello, Ross, 708 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: how are we doing today? Doing great? Always a pleasure 709 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: to speak to you. I have to comments to comments 710 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: Tom Stevie quick and one question, um, one question or 711 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: one comment. UM. I wish Barkley on the first long 712 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: run that he had in the first quarter, I wish 713 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: he would have switched hand and used the stiff form 714 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: on one of the defendor. I think he would have 715 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: gone in. Um, just want to get your opinion on that. 716 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: Just you know, you guys saw that as well. I'm 717 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna question, uh say Kwan Barkley 718 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: whether he whether he used the left of the right 719 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: for the stiff farm. So go ahead, what what? What? 720 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: What's your next one? I'll say this, of all the 721 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: things you could complain about Sunday you, that's one of 722 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: the most creative things you could have done. Sorry, I 723 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: just find that laughable. I'm not trying to make funny. 724 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: I just think. I just think it's funny, that's all. Yeah. Now, 725 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: I just it's just something I saw, wasn't It wasn't 726 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: a critique. I love the guy. I think. Well, just 727 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: as a courtesy to you, I'm actually watching the play 728 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: right now on my screen, so I'm gonna look at 729 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 1: it again. You go right ahead, and I'll let you 730 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: know what I think. Go ahead. I love the guy. 731 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: Sometimes we poke up over Donald. UM. I love that 732 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: we're going a young team. Um. I wanted to defend gentleman. 733 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: I think you know, he kept a lot of hate online. UM. 734 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: And I think he's he's voting a team. I's doing 735 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: it one side of the time. It seems like, um, 736 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: it's kind of building the offensive line and drafting Barkley. UM. 737 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: Now obviously drafting Daniel Jones, which I was a fan 738 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 1: up as well. UM, so I think his strength is drafting, 739 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: which is it is good for us in the long 740 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: term obviously. UM. And then I have one question about 741 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: the officiating. Um, you guys are just just talking about it, 742 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: and I just feels like every game everesting, Galas games 743 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: or just maybe hurt the most obviously because it within 744 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: the vision. But UM, what's like there is there age 745 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 1: restrictions or can you can kind of talk more about 746 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: like deficiating, how they finding guys, how they apply do 747 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: they have to have any experience like before the end 748 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: of the NFL. UM. First of all, I don't know 749 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: about I mean, if there's one sport where I'm looking 750 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: at age experience, if we're talking about officials, I would 751 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 1: say that's in baseball. Because some of the shape that 752 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: some of those guys in in football, I have to 753 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: tell you, um, and thanks for the call. I have 754 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: to tell you that, UM, most of the football guys 755 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 1: younger old, they all look in really good shape. So 756 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a question of being in shape. 757 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: I I don't know what it is. And you know what, 758 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: I've said this in all sports in particular. I've said 759 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: it in football and in baseball. I think, because why 760 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: don't you just read read that to him? Can you 761 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: see that there are no specific educational requirements to become 762 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: an NFL referee, though it is expected that they would 763 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: have passed high school and would have have a bachelor's degree. 764 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: NFL referees need to have at least ten years of 765 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: officiating experience in football games. Again, I'm a believer in this. 766 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: I really, it's just me, but I believe that instant 767 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: replay and everything going back to review has made officials 768 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: in football, and I just because we're talking about in 769 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 1: baseball as well. I don't know if it's lazy or 770 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: just do too dependable, dependable on the reviews and not 771 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: the calls themselves. Now you might dispute that, but all 772 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: I know is we go. I'm just seeing tons and 773 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: tons of, like you know, bad calls. Officiating is not 774 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: what it used to be. It just isn't. Uh. In 775 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: reference to the Barkley run, we just looked at it again. 776 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: In my opinion, he would have made the end zone 777 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: even had he switched hands with the ball. A woozy 778 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: was was coming down on him. Had the angle Um, 779 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 1: he would have gotten knocked out. Maybe he would have 780 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: got another five yards if you'd be able to, you know, 781 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: fight somebody off. But he's not going all away from 782 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: the touchdown, so I would disagree with the caller. We're 783 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: complaining about a Yeah, do we have to read another 784 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: sponsor hit there? No, No, we've got Did we get 785 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: them all in already? Okay? We just want to make 786 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: sure we're good. I want to make them happy, just 787 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: because Paul wants to make Big Blue Kickoff Live happy. 788 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna say it again. Big Blue Kickoff Live is 789 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: brought to you by Corpse Light. If you want to 790 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: enter to win the Ultimate v I P Game Day 791 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: Experience courtesy of Course Light, well then you got a 792 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: text v I P two nine oh four six flour 793 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: that's nine O four six four for more details. All right, 794 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: thank you two oh one four or five one three. 795 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: You haven't a good time to happy see. I'm laughing 796 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 1: a lot today because I don't want to cry. Yeah, 797 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: I know. Oh my goodness. You should have seen how 798 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: wired he was up on Friday walking around here before 799 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: the game. I mean, fan fans, if you think you 800 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: get fired up, you should have seen all Poli Dots 801 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: Friday before the game. He was an expectant dad. Let's 802 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: go to Arizona check in with Sean. Hello, Sean, how 803 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: are we doing today? Sean? How are you doing to good? 804 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: Sure thing? Thanks for calling, long time listening her first 805 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: time caller. I just wanted to make a couple of 806 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: comments and have a quick question for you. So, you know, 807 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: obviously this is the young and Giants deep, and we've 808 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: got young players on the defensive linian, linebacker and secondary. 809 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: And I think as Giants fans, we just have to 810 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: realize this is Dave Government's plan. He's actually building for 811 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: the future, and this young defense, they're gonna make mistakes 812 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: that the first time they're seeing a complex offense, not 813 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 1: vanilla players in the preseason. So I think our defense 814 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 1: is gonna include as youth goes on. Um I did question, No, 815 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,720 Speaker 1: maybe you covered us all as ready, though, why didn't 816 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't love Why didn't he get any snare in 817 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: the game? Again? And I'm not sure of that, Sean. 818 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: We were just guessing Paul and myself. They're all young dbs, 819 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe for whatever reason, Betcher's this guy 820 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 1: X amount of time that guy x amount of time. 821 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 1: I would think it's certainly going to be looked at 822 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 1: again this week. And see, uh, there was a lot 823 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: of there's been a lot of wondering why this guy 824 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: got this time, and then you know we didn't see 825 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: more of this player, or that somebody was talking about 826 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: Balantine before and somebody was talking about DeAndre Baker. I 827 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 1: can answer this particular one a little bit better. Love ahead. 828 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: They think that Love's best position is free safety, and 829 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: Antoine buffet is they're starting free safety. He is the 830 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: guy that Betcher feels comfortable with from his days with Arizona, 831 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: and so right now, Julian Love, in their mind, is 832 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: the second string free safety. He would also be the 833 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: second string slot corner behind Grant Hill. Now, Grant Haley 834 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong on Sunday. In fact, I think, 835 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 1: you know, all right, if he gave up a couple 836 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: of passes, I still have to go through the entire game. 837 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 1: I've gone through a lot of parts of it, but 838 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: I don't think Grant Haley got burned or fried very 839 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: often in Sunday's game, so there be no reason to 840 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 1: pull him out. And the third position that Love can 841 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,800 Speaker 1: play is outside on the boundary. But that is his 842 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: third best position according to the coaching staff. So does 843 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: it really make sense to put him in at his 844 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: third best position when they have other guys on the 845 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 1: roster who they believe are better suited to that spot. 846 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: It really doesn't. So in his case, I can give 847 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: you some some logic and rationale. I can't necessarily give 848 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,240 Speaker 1: it to you about Valentine other than to say maybe 849 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: they felt as inexperience was gonna be a little bit 850 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: too much for him in the opener. But we'll we'll 851 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: talk to better about this on Thursday. Okay, great, thank you, 852 00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: And you know, too quick cur rolled out when I'm 853 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: talking about you were just talking about the possible passinger 854 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: terance of Shepherds in the end zone. I felt like 855 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: Shepherd was open. I felt like that would have been 856 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: a quick touchdown. And then I didn't see it that way. 857 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 1: I really didn't. The Cowboys had three as Eli was 858 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: rolling out to the right sideline, the Giants only had 859 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: two targets rolling with him, and there were three Cowboys 860 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: defenders in the vicinity of those two receivers. And to 861 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: be perfectly frank with you, if Eli was going to 862 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: have to throw that ball on the run. Chances are 863 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna have a lot of mustard on it, 864 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: even though he's got a strong arm. I think you 865 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: would have been asking way too. I don't know. I'm 866 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: not even sure Aaron Rodgers would have tried to make 867 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 1: that throw. To be perfectly frank with you, it would 868 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: have been a suicidal pass. And unfortunately, uh, you know, 869 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, in my opinion, they seemed to read that 870 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: play from the very snap because the Giants offensive line 871 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: all pulled to the left as if they were going 872 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: to run some kind of misdirection. But Eli and his 873 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: tours she was immediately went to the right and the 874 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys didn't bite one bit. They were all over the 875 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: play from the very second the ball was snapped. I 876 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 1: don't know how they figured it out, but they did. 877 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: And I have to give them a tremendous amount of 878 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: credit for reading the play right from the get go. Yeah. Absolutely. 879 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: And then last comment was I really little bit with 880 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: fregat caller Tony and that you know so much play 881 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 1: calling was a little confusing to me. I feel like, 882 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, we have the best player, one of the 883 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: best players. When we can say Klon Barkley and on 884 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 1: third and one, fourth and one, we don't even give 885 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: it to the best player. And sometimes I feel like 886 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: Shermer is trying to rely too much on the offensive system, 887 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: whether than saying, hey, let's get the best player and 888 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: let him make a play. So I'd love to hear 889 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: your comments on that. And thanks for the time, guys, 890 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Sure, thank you. Go ahead. I'm no, I'm 891 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: gonna let you answer this because I want to follow 892 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 1: up with an answer that's a little bit more specific 893 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: that you probably haven't heard before. Go ahead, Well, if 894 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 1: you're asking me, well, I question that about every coach 895 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 1: you know when it when it's third and one. I 896 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: was watching even the Eagles game. There was a third 897 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: and one this past week, um and the Eagles Redskins game, 898 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 1: and on a third and one they needed the yard 899 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:25,280 Speaker 1: and he pitched out two scrolls, which was like seven 900 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: yards out to get the one yard in. And I 901 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: kind of was thinking, I said, well, those are the 902 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: things that I think about when I'm watching the Giants. Uh, 903 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: that's coaches play calling. You know. I'm not the coach. 904 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't get it sometimes, but I don't see what 905 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: they see. I did hear You know, Pat Sherman was 906 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 1: questioned about it yesterday on a conference call. I'm sure 907 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: you were on it, Paul, and you know, he was 908 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: talking about how many times got the ball in the 909 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: first half, and it was something that was said they 910 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: had something like plays They had the ball for ten 911 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 1: minutes in the first half and Dallas had it for 912 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: over nineteen. Yeah, basically I think he I think they 913 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,359 Speaker 1: had three possessions. They had three, but I think they 914 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:19,399 Speaker 1: had eleven offensive plays and six of them, so you know, I, um, 915 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of the mathematics. Yeah, I mean, Dallas totally 916 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: dominated the time of possession. And one of the things 917 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 1: that we talked about the Giants have to win the 918 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 1: time of possession, said it last week, Giants need to 919 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 1: control the ball for at least thirty three minutes in 920 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: the game and and and by far that did not happen, 921 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 1: especially if you look at what we just watched this 922 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: past weekend. Alright, here's the number of plays. Giants had 923 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: a total of, uh twenty five snaps in the first half. Okay, 924 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: five snaps in the first half, and at that point 925 00:50:54,520 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: Barkley had seven of the twenty five snaps total Okay, okay, 926 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: you know you're, as I said earlier, if your defense 927 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: is going to be a problem, and no one's gonna 928 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: tell me that this defense is going to be this 929 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 1: bad all season long. They this is a young, inexperienced 930 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: defense that played its first game. Do I think they 931 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: will be better? Yes? I do. I'm not looking through 932 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: rose colored big blue uh glasses. I just think they 933 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: will be better. They're young guys playing in their first 934 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 1: NFL game, but a ball control offense, which this team 935 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:44,240 Speaker 1: is capable of doing with the much much improved offensive line, 936 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: and say Kwan Barkley also have to remember, I'm not again, 937 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,479 Speaker 1: I don't want to make excuses. Golden Tate's not there. 938 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: Uh now, actually this weekend, we don't even know what 939 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: the concussion protocol of Sterling schaf so you know it's 940 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 1: blow control can be just a tad difficult. Um Russ, 941 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna add this one thing, and I mentioned it 942 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: to you before, I've said it to a couple other people. 943 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 1: I just don't want to let it go unnoticed. Yes, 944 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,800 Speaker 1: is it questionable that Barkley doesn't get the ball on 945 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: third and about a yard and three quarters down inside 946 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: the Dallas ten. Yes it is. But you know what, Yeah, 947 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 1: the offensive line played much better than it has the 948 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: last several years. This is a real rebuilt line that 949 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,919 Speaker 1: is obviously improved. Their past protection was was was very good, 950 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 1: pretty good on a couple of occasions where they needed 951 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 1: to hold up better, and maybe they didn't, but I'd 952 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,919 Speaker 1: say it was pretty good. But I'm gonna tell you something. 953 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,399 Speaker 1: It's a prideful bunch. And if you had a chance 954 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 1: to talk to each one of those guys right now, 955 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: I bet you they would tell you they should have 956 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 1: blocked better on that third and a yard and a 957 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: half when Penny got the ball. I'm gonna show it 958 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: to you, Russ right here, take a look at this play. 959 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 1: You tell me where is the whole I don't care 960 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 1: who you are, you've got to make a statement on 961 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 1: this play. Is the Giants offensive line and you've got 962 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: to block this play better. Dallas ran a standard four 963 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: man front. They weren't even stacking eight guys up on 964 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 1: the line. They didn't have a goal line defense. They 965 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: had four guys up front. And what happened The Giants 966 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: got no push at all from their offensive line. These 967 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:22,800 Speaker 1: guys were a proud bunch. They were proud bunch. You 968 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: also have to give credit to the defensive line of account. 969 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: I give credit to dallas Is front four, no question. 970 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,360 Speaker 1: But if you're the Giants and you're gonna make a 971 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 1: statement about how strong and how powerful and how much 972 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 1: better this offensive line is going to be in that spot, 973 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: you have to Bill Parcels used to say, impose your 974 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: will on the other team. Just take it and ram 975 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: it down their throats. We all know who's gonna get 976 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 1: the ball. We all know where it's gonna be, the 977 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: old embardy thing. We're gonna out execute you. You know 978 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. Try to stop us. We're just 979 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 1: gonna keep doing what we want. And that that was 980 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: a chance for the Giants offensive line to make a statement, 981 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: to try to stop the bleeding, to try to turn 982 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 1: the tide in the game, and they got no push 983 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,880 Speaker 1: at all. Okay, no, no, I don't think anybody's disputing that. 984 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna pick nobody's. Nobody's talking about it. 985 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:19,359 Speaker 1: But because nobody's talking about it, because because that's why 986 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: the offensive line had a very good game. They did. 987 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,800 Speaker 1: They played pretty darned well for the most part of 988 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 1: the game. But there was a critical spot. Okay, I'm 989 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: not going to dispute this. They didn't make the play, 990 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 1: but the offensive line had themselves a very good game. 991 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 1: They I bet you every one of those five guys 992 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: would tell you if you brought them in here, they 993 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 1: regret that place. Well, of course they're gonna regret to 994 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: play because it didn't happen. I mean, they didn't get 995 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 1: the job done on the play. But yeah, I'm not 996 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 1: gonna take the one play and say they didn't have 997 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,359 Speaker 1: a very good day. The offensive line played very well. 998 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: Defensive line on the whole had a good day. I'm 999 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,799 Speaker 1: not disputing that, Russ. I'm simply saying in a key 1000 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: spot they really needed to dig in and make it happen. 1001 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 1: They came up short, and and you know what, against 1002 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: the Bills on Sunday, if they're in a similar situation, 1003 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 1: they gotta get the first down, they gotta make the 1004 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,839 Speaker 1: whole they gotta get the push. And I'm gonna point 1005 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,360 Speaker 1: to you. You're gonna be sitt in the box right 1006 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 1: two seats away from me like you usually are. And 1007 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Russ, here it is it's third and water. 1008 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,760 Speaker 1: It's third and two, let's see if they get the push, 1009 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 1: because you know what, third down and short has been 1010 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 1: a bugaboo for this team for a long time. You know, 1011 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: it's funny, folks, that here we are. We got Charlie 1012 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 1: turned around on the offensive line not complaining today, and 1013 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 1: I gotta sit next to this guy, Paul Datino is 1014 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 1: complaining today. Again, I'm giving them credit for what was 1015 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 1: a solid day, good pass protection, but in a key 1016 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 1: spot they didn't. Okay, make it okay. But you're saying, 1017 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 1: if you speak, if you go ahead and talk to 1018 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: each one of those guys, that you're sure they're gonna 1019 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 1: be up. I'm sure they would feel question that has 1020 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: to be okay if you don't make a play, if 1021 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 1: you drop a pass, a coach, and if you're the coach, 1022 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 1: if you're either coach Shermer or offensive or the offensive 1023 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: line coach holl Hunter, that's the play you're gonna be 1024 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 1: showing on the board. I'm sure they will. But that 1025 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 1: is not going to take away from the overall performance. 1026 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 1: That again, I've granted that, I mean, no one's as beauty. 1027 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 1: I've granted that, you wish they had a better push. 1028 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 1: See coaches mentality though, of which I strongly adopt, means 1029 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 1: you're never happy. You're always looking for the problem that 1030 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 1: can be fixed. You can never be happy. You could 1031 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,400 Speaker 1: always do better, and you're always gonna find the problem 1032 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,760 Speaker 1: or the thing that was kind of under the surface 1033 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: that can be better. And that's the way I approach it. Okay, coach, 1034 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: thank you. Len's hell Hunt, they're as signing you up 1035 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 1: as his assistant. I'm just I'm simply telling it like 1036 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,720 Speaker 1: it is. Let's wrap things up quickly in New Mexico 1037 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,800 Speaker 1: checking with their friends. Guy Scott, we don't have a 1038 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 1: lot of time, but I know you've been holding on buddy. 1039 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 1: No problem. Hi, guys, are you doing today? Paul? I 1040 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: have to politely disagree with you. If you draft the 1041 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,919 Speaker 1: back number one overall for his intangibles, then you give 1042 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 1: it to your back you No, no, no, no, you're 1043 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 1: you're you're a thousand percent and correct here because I'm 1044 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 1: not disputing that. I'm not disputing that. The dispute isn't 1045 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: whether or not Barkley should have gotten the ball. I'm 1046 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: simply saying you can. You can dispute that all you like, 1047 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 1: because I agree. I'd rather see Barkley get the ball too, 1048 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 1: So there's no disagreement. I'm simply saying there are two 1049 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 1: things that went wrong on that play in my opinion, 1050 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 1: A Barkley didn't get it, be the line didn't block it. Right, 1051 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 1: that's all. There's no disagreement. It actually goes to I 1052 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 1: think what everyone's been talking about. I know we've been 1053 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 1: talking about players and where the rookies can step up 1054 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 1: to the plate. There are rookies that step up to 1055 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 1: the plate immediately, like Carlin Murray had a great game 1056 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 1: with Arizona. Well, hold on it with Scott, Scott, Scott, 1057 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 1: hold on a second, now here, you think about what 1058 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: you just said. You just said, certain rookies come up. 1059 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned Kyler Murray, right first overall. First overall, another 1060 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: player us Zaiah Win, which is arguably playing a much 1061 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: more difficult position to left tackle, had a phenomenal game 1062 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: coming out of the draft too. So I don't think 1063 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm not making the point in regards to Kyler Murray. 1064 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm making the point in regards to just because you're 1065 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: a rookie doesn't mean that you can't play right away. 1066 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but but Scott, hold on a second, nobody's 1067 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 1: saying we're up against the time, Scott, So thanks for 1068 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 1: the call, but but nobody's saying a rookie can't play 1069 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 1: and can't play. You've seen undrafted rookies coming and play. 1070 00:58:55,360 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 1: Nobody's saying that. But sorry, defensive back other than quarterback 1071 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, defensive back is a very 1072 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 1: very difficult position. And the Giants are loaded in the 1073 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 1: defensive backfield with rookies, young players. When no one's making excuses, 1074 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 1: it's a fact, that's just the way it is. And 1075 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 1: and they're not you know, all first round draft picks 1076 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: in the defensive backfield. Well, it's an inexperienced backfield, you 1077 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 1: knowfensive backfield. Well, when you consider really Baker is the 1078 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 1: only rookie actually when when you talk about the actually 1079 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 1: the real rotation. But they and Peppers are new generas. 1080 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,919 Speaker 1: Jenkins is a holdover. So the three of the four 1081 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 1: starters are newie. But when Haley is a slot guy, 1082 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: he's not a rookie either. But we're talking about all 1083 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 1: the of all the rookies, five or six of them 1084 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: on the defensive unit, of all the rookies, That's what 1085 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking about there. We can't just say they're in 1086 00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 1: the backfield because there's only one startup in the rotation. 1087 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 1: They are. They are in the defensive rotation. There's no 1088 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 1: question about that, and it is part of the issue. 1089 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: And that's just something, folks, we keep saying. You're gonna 1090 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 1: have to live with rookie mistakes. Are you okay? I'm fine, 1091 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm worried about you. Do me a favorite, showing me 1092 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: that play where they think get enough push again? All right, 1093 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,919 Speaker 1: thank you very much, Hey, folks, thank you for being 1094 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,959 Speaker 1: part of Big Blue Kickoff Live here on Giants dot Com. Again. 1095 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 1: The number has always called me. Tomorrow to five one three, 1096 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 1: I'll be back with David Deal, but today ask him 1097 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 1: about the push. I'm sure then I'm gonna ask him 1098 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 1: to push you. I want to thank our lovely friend 1099 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 1: Nicole Barrass for helping us out at the controls. My 1100 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 1: buddy Paul Detino. I'm Russ Saulisburg again. It is Big 1101 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff Live here on Giants dot Com. I will 1102 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,919 Speaker 1: see you here tomorrow with David Deal.