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Speaker 1: questions answered here on the show. The plan the rest

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Speaker 1: of the week tentatively obviously a normal show Friday might

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Speaker 1: have a normal podcast moving forward leading into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But obviously this week Coward was supposed to come on

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Speaker 1: will not hear any excuses, but I understand the restaurant

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Speaker 1: industry and when it comes to streaming on Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: and then when it comes to the package, that could

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Speaker 1: be problematic, and that is something that needs to be addressed.

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Speaker 1: I do not have the answers to that. Never worked

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Speaker 1: in the restaurant industry, you know, so I don't. I

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Speaker 1: can't pretend. Now I'm looking at two TVs. The rose

432
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Speaker 1: Ball is currently on. I have another television it's actually off,

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Speaker 1: but they both run with YouTube TV, and I've used

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Speaker 1: Amazon Prime on both of them. Now. The one thing is,

435
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Speaker 1: and I've noticed this, like when I've had Amazon TV

436
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Speaker 1: or Amazon Prime with the game on in the house

437
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 1: and gone outside to barbecue and tried to watch it

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Speaker 1: on my phone while I barbecued, it won't let me

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Speaker 1: watch the same feed like off to watch the Spanish version.

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Speaker 1: So maybe that's what you were talking about. So I

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Speaker 1: agree we need to get this fixed. That's part of technology,

442
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Speaker 1: and the best part about technology is you can adapt fast, right.

443
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Speaker 1: It's just it's the ability to adapt and figure it out.

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Speaker 1: YouTube TV, Bezos, Google, figure it out. I don't know

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Speaker 1: the answers, but I hear you probably a problem, John.

446
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: I have a theory on Lincoln Riley obviously a great

447
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: offensive mind and is great with quarterbacks, but his teams

448
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: are always soft and get pushed around in big games.

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00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: And his quarterbacks Baker Kyler and Williams with the painted

450
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: nails saying f utah all turn into self centered, immature

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Speaker 1: pain in the asses, particularly at the NFL level. Is

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Speaker 1: this a poor reflection of Lincoln Riley? Now listen, I've

453
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Speaker 1: said my piece on Caleb's f utah on his fingernails.

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Speaker 1: That is clown behavior. Now overall, as a kid, I

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Speaker 1: have not heard negative things. Now, you could argue, if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna put f utah on your fingernails when you're

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Speaker 1: playing in a conference championship game, that's a pretty big

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Speaker 1: reflection of you, and I'd argue you're probably right. But

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything in terms of his teammates like him.

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Speaker 1: He works hard, he practices hard. I have not heard

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Speaker 1: negative things surrounding the player like Kyler. Let's face it,

462
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Speaker 1: he's a negative Nancy, bad body language most people just

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Speaker 1: he turns people off. I feel like Baker's bounce back

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Speaker 1: a little bit now. Granted he's been traded at cut,

465
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Speaker 1: so like if that doesn't humble you, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what will. I think Lincoln's biggest problem is he does

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Speaker 1: not value defense and rip Mike Leach. But he was

468
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Speaker 1: taught in the Mike Leads Schip system, which is score points,

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Speaker 1: throw the ball, don't worry about anything else. They just

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Speaker 1: they don't now Lincoln, unlike Leech at Texas Tech, Mississippi

471
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Speaker 1: State and Washington State at USC, they have unlimited resources

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Speaker 1: and now where we don't even have to hide, we're

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Speaker 1: paying the players. I got news for you. Pete did

474
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Speaker 1: back in the day, just like Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Clemson

475
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Speaker 1: like this college football, no different college basketball. You know,

476
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Speaker 1: Jay Billis loves getting on his high horse. Dukes had

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Speaker 1: the biggest payroll in basketball beside Kentucky for a long time,

478
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Speaker 1: maybe Arizona here and there. But now you don't even

479
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: need to pretend. How about you go buy some d

480
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Speaker 1: linemen and linebackers and maybe a dB or two. Like

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Speaker 1: I have no reservations about Lincoln in college, coaching the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: in the offense in their school points. But to lose

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Speaker 1: to Tulane today and I get there's a rebuilding year.

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Speaker 1: Lose the Tulane even in a rebuilding year, how many

485
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Speaker 1: guys on USC's roster would you know? Tulane one? Every

486
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Speaker 1: single one? I just you gotta value defense. The reason

487
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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll won at USC wasn't just Reggie Bush and

488
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Speaker 1: Matt Liner. They had NFL players, first rounders under the

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Speaker 1: d line, at linebacker and in the DBS, and they

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Speaker 1: had a ton of them in linebackers in the front

491
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Speaker 1: and they were cracking skulls. Lincoln is uh miss and tackles. Honestly,

492
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Speaker 1: his guys look tiny, they look they just look small.

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Speaker 1: They look like that at Oklahoma and they feel like

494
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Speaker 1: that against USC. A little unfair for me to judge

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Speaker 1: him on USC personnel wise, But why would anything change.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know if he understands, Like, do you

497
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Speaker 1: know why Pete Carroll was good on defense at USC?

498
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Speaker 1: He's a defensive coach, he loves like he has, his

499
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Speaker 1: scheme is defense. It was an offense, his running you know,

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Speaker 1: schematic beliefs on offenses. Run the ball because that's usually

501
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Speaker 1: what defensive players believing or defensive coaches believing. Lincoln just

502
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Speaker 1: like score points, score some more points. Well, Lincoln, how

503
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Speaker 1: about the kicking game? How about the defense? And I

504
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Speaker 1: like Lincoln Riley, but he has to adapt on in

505
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Speaker 1: the other two phases, specifically defense. You can overcome special

506
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: teams if you dominate on a defense and offense. Longtime

507
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Speaker 1: fan of your show. I was listening to you talking

508
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Speaker 1: about the Steelers culture, and for me, I've watched this

509
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: team be subpar for years. They don't travel well, they

510
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: do great occasionally, and then struggle against lousy teams. Even

511
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Speaker 1: with Big Ben a stack team in the past, they

512
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Speaker 1: would be fighting end of the season to squeak into

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Speaker 1: the playoffs and get bounced in the first round. I

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Speaker 1: believe Tomlin is in discipline and it always filters down

515
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Speaker 1: to his team. Look at the stats, what do you think, Well,

516
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Speaker 1: I mean, they're always in the playoffs, Like it's part

517
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Speaker 1: of my thing with their culture and their standard. I

518
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Speaker 1: didn't act like they were win the Super Bowl every

519
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Speaker 1: year and when's the last time Big Ben at some

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Speaker 1: powerhouse team like five years ago. I mean, the Steelers

521
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Speaker 1: quarterback play has been pretty shitty for a while. Ben's

522
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Speaker 1: arm fell off the one year. Then he came back

523
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Speaker 1: for two years and was old and bad. This year

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Speaker 1: they're playing with the rookie and Trubisky and they refuse

525
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: to go under five hundred. Refuse it's impossible. Like they

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Speaker 1: have the same record with Trubisky and with Kenny Pickett

527
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Speaker 1: currently as the Green Bay Packers have with Aaron Rodgers.

528
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, there is some flaws offensively that they should

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Speaker 1: be more dynamic. But like I think Tomlin's standard of

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Speaker 1: winning and being competitive is pretty high. Now. Is it

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Speaker 1: the Patriot dynasty? No? Is it the current chiefs Andy

532
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: and Mahomes? Of course not. Is it pretty damn good

533
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: and better than eighty percent of the league. It is now?

534
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Speaker 1: And if he wins this week, he just never has

535
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Speaker 1: a losing season. Like, I just think that's pretty impressive.

536
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Speaker 1: Are there things we can nitpick? For sure? There are? Right,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, undisciplined. Well, part of being a great

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Speaker 1: defensive team is kind of teetering the edge, you know,

539
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Speaker 1: pushing the envelope, like you know what most good business

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Speaker 1: businessmen do. You know, kind of toe the line of

541
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Speaker 1: kind of getting in trouble sometimes in their business, it's life.

542
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 1: Most great defenses are really high end defenses, you know,

543
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: cost some havoc, get some flags from on him, get

544
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: some guys ejected. It's part of the deal. You gotta

545
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: tell the line. That's where all the risk is now. Offensively,

546
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: which Tomlin and fairness knows nothing about. Besides wanting to

547
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Speaker 1: run and be physical. His offensive coordinators can be a

548
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: little hit or miss. I thought they were really good

549
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Speaker 1: with the Bruce Arians and then they fired him. I

550
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: actually kind of liked them with Todd Haley, then they

551
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: fired him. When they and part of it, it's not

552
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: even Tomlin. If you're a Steeler fan, you would know this.

553
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: The ownership gets very mad when you get too pass happy.

554
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: In Pittsburgh, they want to run the ball. It's the

555
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: Rooney family way. It's like their business motto, run the

556
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Speaker 1: ball played defense, which, in fairness to them, has worked. Hey, bro,

557
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Speaker 1: I blocked. I got blocked by your hacker on Twitter

558
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Speaker 1: for calling out your hacker miss your insight? Can you

559
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Speaker 1: unblock me? All? Unblock you, buddy? I got my Twitter back.

560
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Speaker 1: I think the rules committee needs to put the kabash

561
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Speaker 1: on the lateral craziness at the end of games. It's childish,

562
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: unprofessional and does not live up to the professional standard

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Speaker 1: of play. We got a real football care in here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I in fairness of the football care and

565
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Speaker 1: I there are times when I agree with you. I

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Speaker 1: saw to day in the Mississippi State game. They were

567
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Speaker 1: up three, Illinois try to do these crazy laterals. Mississippi

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Speaker 1: State intercepted one of the laterals, took her the house,

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Speaker 1: ended up covering. They were up three, the points bed

570
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Speaker 1: was three and a half, and then obviously they won

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Speaker 1: by nine. It is kind of a stupid play. And

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Speaker 1: let's be honest. Has it ever worked? I mean less

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Speaker 1: than a percent of a percent of a time? I

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Speaker 1: mean it not only does it never work, I think

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Speaker 1: you're more likely to give up a touchdown going the

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Speaker 1: other way than you are to gain like thirty forty yards.

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Speaker 1: Now outlawt like, how do you outlaw it? Take away

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Speaker 1: the lateral, like that's part of football. You're allowed to

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Speaker 1: lateral it. So what are they what rules are they breaking?

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Speaker 1: Don't you know, like the rules committee, you're just not

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Speaker 1: allowed to do that. You're allowed to do what like

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Speaker 1: a max two laterals? What's what's the max lateral three laterals?

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Speaker 1: I agree that it's pretty stupid. H But here's the

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Speaker 1: other thing. It happens how often, a couple times a month.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't happen as much as you think. Honestly, it

586
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: happens in college more than doesen the pros. Uh doesn't

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00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: bother me clearly as much as it bothers you. But

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Speaker 1: I hear you. It's it's not my favorite play in

589
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Speaker 1: football for the mail back. Could some of Dax's interception

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Speaker 1: troubles be from the thumb he fractured in the Week

591
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: one against the Bucks? Possible? You know, possible. Tough guy

592
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk about his injury, but he makes

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Speaker 1: enough really good throws where it's like, let's let's face it,

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Speaker 1: healthy not healthy. Prescott throws some picks now part part

595
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: of the and the reason he throws some picks, it's

596
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: pretty simple. He's a timing, rhythm passer with you know,

597
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 1: an average arm, and people like average. Hey, he's got

598
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: an average arm. He makes up for it. He's really smart.

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00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: He's big, so we can see he's got a really

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Speaker 1: good feel for the offense. Him and Kellen Moore have

601
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Speaker 1: been there the entire time together as a player and

602
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Speaker 1: as a coach, so they're like his knowledge of what

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00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: they're doing is really high. Sometimes if he's a second slow,

604
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: like Philip Rivers threw a lot of picks, not because

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Speaker 1: he didn't know what was going on. The ball doesn't

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Speaker 1: go very fast. It is harder to catch, you know,

607
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's fastball than it is Dak's. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's easier for Aaron Judge to hit the guy throwing

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Speaker 1: ninety one than it is for the guy throwing ninety nine. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you're time ninety nine, you can hit it. You

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Speaker 1: can pick Josh Allen's ball, But you can time an

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Speaker 1: out route against Dak easier than Mahomes or Allen. If

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Speaker 1: Brady goes the Niners or legit team next season and

614
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Speaker 1: wins another Super Bowl, could we start calling him father time?

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Speaker 1: He would have earned it. I think a lot of

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00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: people have, you know, put Brady on the Niners rightfully

617
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: so right grew up in the Bay Area. Famous picture

618
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: of him at the nineteen eighty one catch game with

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Speaker 1: the Montana to to Dwight Clark. He's not going to

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Speaker 1: the Niners. It's just not happening. And that's as separate

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Speaker 1: from party like, he's not moving back to the West Coast. Now,

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Speaker 1: I get it. Parents sentimental, My mom's old, you know.

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Speaker 1: I understand that. The you know, the nostalgia of just

624
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Speaker 1: what things mean to you and family and the connection.

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Speaker 1: It's it's the older you get. It's powerful. And Tom's

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Speaker 1: older than me and still has both of his parents,

627
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Speaker 1: So I get it. I mean, I don't. I can't

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Speaker 1: put myself at hissue. I'm not Tom fucking Prady, But

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, anyone listening to me that's

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Speaker 1: that has lost a parent or has older parents, who's

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Speaker 1: the older you get in life? There are things that

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Speaker 1: trigger emotions and make you feel in a positive way.

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Speaker 1: So I would understand there being some draw But he's

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Speaker 1: lived on the East Coast so long. Now he's been

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Speaker 1: in Florida. I bet he loves Florida. The no state

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Speaker 1: income taxes, he moved his businesses there. My guests would

637
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Speaker 1: be one of the East Coast teams like Miami, the Giants,

638
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Speaker 1: the Jets, because if you can go to Miami, why

639
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: couldn't he play for the Jets? And the Jets are

640
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Speaker 1: probably better suited than Miami. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: Hi Brandon, messaging you from my wife's account. Diehard Niner fan,

642
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Speaker 1: love the pod. What are your thoughts in the forty

643
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Speaker 1: nine Ers quarterback situation? For the sake of For the

644
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Speaker 1: sake of the argument, If Brock Purty has a good

645
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Speaker 1: playoff performance and wins a couple of playoff games, do

646
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Speaker 1: you think they should go ahead and ride with Brock

647
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Speaker 1: for the future. It's hard to find a quarterback in

648
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Speaker 1: the NFL, and why risk starting trade next year killing

649
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Speaker 1: Brock's confidences experience since we know more of his game.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Well, I would say it's a lock.

651
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Speaker 1: At minimum. They're splitting reps right now, and that even

652
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: feels like Brock. They're splitting reps Bronx the starter type deal,

653
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: and more than likely Brox is the offseason starter. What

654
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: they did last year was a mistake. Now, part of

655
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Speaker 1: it is like, once you draft a guy high, usually

656
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: just name them the quarterback. But they did that was

657
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson and Trey Lance, and it backfired big time.

658
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: Now Trey got heard, but training camp was pretty ugly.

659
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Speaker 1: I was there. I was trying to be positive because

660
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: he has these big physical attributes. Put the ball fucking

661
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: flies all over the map. And you watch Purty. Pretty's

662
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: the best Niner passer. This is Jeff Garcia. Now, Kaepernick

663
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: had the biggest arm and could throw the ball the farthest,

664
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Speaker 1: but he was inaccurate. And Alex Smith just was a

665
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Speaker 1: pretty mediocre passer in the football and Jimmy was fine. Like,

666
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: watch Purty for four games and I've watched every snap.

667
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: Their passing game is explosive right now because kick and play.

668
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Speaker 1: Now do I think he's like some ten year starter.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not gonna get ahead of myself,

670
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:01,479
Speaker 1: but he's pretty fucking good. I'm not gonna not gonna

671
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: lie he's he's been pretty pretty good. Now. This is

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Speaker 1: why I was high on Trey. It's like, well, how

673
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Speaker 1: are you not gonna be good? You get Deebo, Samuel,

674
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Speaker 1: get Brandon i Yuki, get George Kittle. I didn't even

675
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Speaker 1: know Christian McCaffrey would come. Juwan Jennings is a sweet

676
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Speaker 1: third receiver. I mean, they got dudes on dudes on dudes,

677
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Speaker 1: and you watched Tree, You're like, I don't know what

678
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: the hell's missing. Then he gets injured. Then he watched

679
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: Jimmy and Jimmy's oh solid, but you're like, God, why

680
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Speaker 1: isn't his offense better? And then brockets in there and

681
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: they boom. They scored thirty plus points in four out

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Speaker 1: of his five games. Uh, what huge fan. Was there

683
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Speaker 1: ever a specific player you scouted that you thought was

684
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Speaker 1: amazing that ended up not playing well and vice versa? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know one thing looking back on my scouting days

686
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Speaker 1: is I think it's easier. It's easy as a scout

687
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Speaker 1: to be negative on guys and just go this guy

688
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: stinks or this guy can't play, and a lot of

689
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: those guys on the fringe. And it's different when you're

690
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Speaker 1: a when you're a pro scout, and as a pro scout,

691
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Speaker 1: you're not factoring in like the intangibles, because the intangibles

692
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: have already been covered for them coming out of college,

693
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Speaker 1: like what they're like, the drive, their focus, character wise,

694
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Speaker 1: so you're just evaluating them on as a player. And

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Speaker 1: I think you can never underestimate human beings desire and

696
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Speaker 1: care for being successful in whatever endeavor they're trying to

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Speaker 1: be successful in. It's why so many guys in the

698
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,479
Speaker 1: NFL don't have like high end talent. Right, most guys

699
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Speaker 1: in the NFL are not Micah Parsons or Trent Williams

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Speaker 1: or Justin Jefferson. Right, say Kwan Barkley. Those guys have

701
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Speaker 1: these sweet physical attributes. Most guys are like, you know,

702
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Speaker 1: average help. Max Crosby goes in the middle of the draft.

703
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Speaker 1: Do you ever watch Max Crosby plays his ass off?

704
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Speaker 1: There have been since I've been just talking about football

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Speaker 1: the last decade, even scout, even since I've worked in football,

706
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: and now I've been talking about it for twelve, fourteen

707
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: years or whatever, the amount of more talented players that

708
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Speaker 1: just don't make it in the NFL because they don't

709
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Speaker 1: really try that hard or they're not that tough. So,

710
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: you know, probably a lot of guys over the years

711
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Speaker 1: when I did it that I just underestimated. Oh he's

712
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: just not quite tall enough. Oh he doesn't try hard enough. Right,

713
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: Like intangibles matter. I didn't like Matt Barkley at all.

714
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Speaker 1: I thought he'd be in and out of the league

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Speaker 1: in a couple of years. Well, I read this article

716
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Speaker 1: the other day about when they were recruiting Von Miller

717
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Speaker 1: to come to the Bills, and I stood up in

718
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Speaker 1: a draft meeting, like, this guy's gonna stink. He's not

719
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Speaker 1: gonna be able to play. You know what, why, He's

720
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Speaker 1: gonna have a decade long NFL career. Now he's not

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Speaker 1: a starter, but he's in the league. And I didn't

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Speaker 1: even think he'd get that far. Is because guys really

723
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Speaker 1: like him and Josh Allen. When the GM called Josh

724
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Speaker 1: Allen to recruit von Miller, he said, I will do this,

725
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Speaker 1: like I got no problem doing this, but can we

726
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Speaker 1: resign Matt Barkley. And being liked by your you know,

727
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: teammates and the most important teammates is important. And then

728
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: Barkley told the story. He gets von Miller's number, he

729
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: calls von Millery said, Vaughan, I saw it on the

730
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Speaker 1: internet like last week. It was incredible. He's like, bro,

731
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Speaker 1: this is the AFC east Man. You get to play

732
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Speaker 1: against Tuah mac Jones and Zach Wilson. This Barkley said,

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Speaker 1: he said this verbatim. He's like, think about that six

734
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Speaker 1: times a year now. Obviously Vaughan got injured, but think

735
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: about little Josh Allen thinks about the fellow quarterbacks in

736
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Speaker 1: the AFCAST. Don't even blame him, Josh Allen is the

737
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: new Tom Brady. He knows all these guys are not

738
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Speaker 1: on their level. I would say, I mean, I had

739
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: a top ten grade on Deon Jordan, the pass rusher

740
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Speaker 1: at Oregon. He was like a couple of years ahead

741
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Speaker 1: of like Buckner and Eric Armstead, and he got drafted high.

742
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Speaker 1: But he was a disaster. Now. Granted, like when you

743
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Speaker 1: went through Oregon and this was hard. I only did

744
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: college scouting, like on the road. Truly. I did some college.

745
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: I got to go to some colleges my second year,

746
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Speaker 1: but like, just do the road my third year. You know,

747
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Speaker 1: it takes time to really get to know who's shooting

748
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Speaker 1: your straight, who's not shooting you straight? And you know,

749
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Speaker 1: there are probably some programs I was more comfortable with

750
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: my sources than others. You're probably only as good as

751
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: a scout, obviously, Like you got to be able to

752
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: identify players. But I got news for you. This isn't

753
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, electrical engineering. We're not building the Golden Gate

754
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: Bridge here or erecting you know, the Sears Tower. You

755
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: can learn, most guys, if you have some just natural

756
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: instincts for athletics, learn how to scout. Now, obviously there

757
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: are going to be some guys that are better than others.

758
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: But it comes down to understanding the way guys are

759
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: wired and what you're looking for in people, in players,

760
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Speaker 1: and getting the right information, because if you get some

761
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: of this information, you would look at your GM and

762
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: your coach and go, coach, there is no way you

763
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: want this guy in the building. But if you don't

764
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: have that information, you might be pound on the table

765
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Speaker 1: for the player. Then all of a sudden, two years later,

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Speaker 1: not good two ain't coming back this season, and I

767
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: think he needs to consider retirement in the off season.

768
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: He's potentially at three concussions over four months spin. I

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Speaker 1: love the guy and who he is as a player human,

770
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Speaker 1: but it ain't worth being a vegetable in ten to

771
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Speaker 1: fifteen years to your kids. Yeah, I think it's easy

772
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Speaker 1: for all of us to say he shall retire and quit.

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Speaker 1: I'll be shocked. I do not think he's going to

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Speaker 1: I think the media and fans everyone's gonna retire, retire, retire,

775
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: even I think I saw his brother said he'll be back.

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00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: He'll be back. He's not gonna stop playing now. The

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00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: Dolphins are not going to pick up his fifth year

778
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: option at the end of the season. So he's gonna

779
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Speaker 1: be on one more year? Is he even gonna be

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Speaker 1: the starter there next year? And then if he in

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Speaker 1: a year he becomes a free agent. Let's say he

782
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: does play because they signed a player, like who's signing

783
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: him to play? You just you can't invest into something

784
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 1: like Ultimately, it is a business. So he gets to choose,

785
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: like this is not twenty twenty Like, he gets to choose.

786
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Speaker 1: You know, it's his decision. Now, it's also the team's

787
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: decision whether I sign you or whether I make you

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Speaker 1: the starter. And I think it's fair to say those

789
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: days are done. But to think that he's going to retire,

790
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Speaker 1: I hear you. Uh, you know, I if he retired,

791
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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone can blame him. But I do

792
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: not expect him to retire at all. Urban or Hackett

793
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: who had the better head coaching career. Hackett lasted longer,

794
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: not much, but Urban got more lap dances. Need your

795
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: opinion on the matter, sir, I would say that it's

796
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: not even close. Urban Meyer had the worst head coaching

797
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: tenure I've ever seen. Now, there are probably some in

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00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: the seventies, eighties, and nineties that obviously in the seventies

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Speaker 1: and eighties. I wasn't around for most of it and

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Speaker 1: wouldn't remember in the nineties. You know, I'm just a

801
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: junior high elementary school kid, probably not super locked in

802
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: since I've been following football closely. I would put on

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Speaker 1: the short list of Jim, Tom Sula, Freddy Kitchens. Obviously

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Speaker 1: Hackett would have to go on that. I think Urban

805
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: takes the cake, though, because when you look at those guys,

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Speaker 1: Tom Sula, Freddy Kitchens, and Hackett, those kids are just

807
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: lifetime position coaches whatever. Never should have been a head coach.

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Speaker 1: We all agree. Hackett's gonna be coaching in the NFL

809
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: for a long time, right. Freddy Kitchens is coaching somewhere.

810
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure Tom Sula bounced around. Urban Meyer was like

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Speaker 1: a top five all time great college coach. Now college

812
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: is different than the pros, but like this guy, when

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Speaker 1: you have that much success, when that many national championships,

814
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 1: to be that in apt in the pros is pretty crazy, right,

815
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Speaker 1: even though it's not because I thought he was a

816
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: huge fraud and it would never work, but still, the

817
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Speaker 1: way it happened, the way he conducted himself, that picture

818
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: and whatever I even said when that happened. It's you

819
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: can never assume people what goes on in people's relationships.

820
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: When you get into that business, you're usually gonna be wrong.

821
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Speaker 1: But to me, that he couldn't even interact with players.

822
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: The players hated him. Remember you're like kicking the kicker,

823
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: and the other players hated him, the assistant coaches hated him.

824
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: That to me was pretty glaring. So I would say

825
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: that Urban when you factor in the success he had had,

826
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Speaker 1: is the craziest. Like I knew Jim Tompso was gonna

827
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Speaker 1: suck Freddy kitchen sucking. Who shocked Hackett? I guess it's

828
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Speaker 1: probably a little more shocking than those guys because he

829
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Speaker 1: could talk. But who thought Nate Hackett was gonna be

830
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Speaker 1: a head coached before last year? And Aaron Rodgers wanted

831
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Speaker 1: to get traded to the Denver Broncos. Good question though, Okay,

832
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Speaker 1: last question, big fan of the pod. It's clear to

833
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Speaker 1: me that the Jets are Donald was Zack Wilson. I

834
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: don't think they will draft someone as it seems they

835
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: need an established quarterback. Who do you think they go

836
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Speaker 1: after trading for someone like Lamar assuming he gets franchise,

837
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Speaker 1: tag or car or signing someone in free agency like

838
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy G or even a reunion with Sam Darnold. I

839
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Speaker 1: would say Jimmy G makes the most sense. Sign Jimmy

840
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: G relatively cheap, Keep Mike White. You get Jimmy G,

841
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: Mike White, and you cut Zach Wilson and my guests.

842
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson where he ends up. I can see Andy

843
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: Reid taking a flyer on the guy by U try

844
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Speaker 1: to resurrect his career a little bit of a gun

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Speaker 1: slinger and just try to kind of look at him like,

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Speaker 1: this is your chance. Man. Sign a couple of year deal,

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Speaker 1: veteran minimum, even though you're twenty three years old, right

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Speaker 1: for nothing, a couple million bucks, like a million dollars

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Speaker 1: a year, nine hundred thousan dollars a year, and you

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Speaker 1: have to earn the backup job. And then if you do, like,

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Speaker 1: I can get you going again. I can build you

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Speaker 1: back up. I've done that historically with other guys. You

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Speaker 1: want me to try to do that with you. No

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Speaker 1: pressure here, learn from Patrick. There's a high character, high

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Speaker 1: level operation. That's what I would recommend for Zach Wilson,

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Speaker 1: assuming the big guy wants him, and maybe Andy not

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Speaker 1: a fan of them and would know because he's tied

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Speaker 1: in with the BYU people. But if Andy's interested, if

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson gets cut, and trust me, I believe he

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Speaker 1: will get cut, that's what I would recommend him doing.

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Speaker 1: And I would say Jimmy G would probably go to

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Speaker 1: the Jets. Geno Smith has also been there the reunions.

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Speaker 1: You know, reunion sounds a little different if the old

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Speaker 1: coach was there, but it's like all new people. So

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Jimmy G like did solid coach? I guess,

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Speaker 1: I guess the GM would have been there with Sam Darnold. Huh.

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Speaker 1: All my timelines, all these quarterbacks, quarterbacks changed teams now

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Speaker 1: much faster than they ever did. Gadios, have a good

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Speaker 1: week and I'll speak to you guys a little bit

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Speaker 1: later on Friday. Peace. The volume