WEBVTT - Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:04.560 On the Bechdelcast, the questions asked if movies have women 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:07.960 and them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:11.879 or do they have individualism. It's the patriarchy, zeph and 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:15.280 best start changing it with the Bechdel Cast. 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:23.720 Jamie, I am your father. Oh join me, we can 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:28.680 rule this podcast as father and son. 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:29.560 I like that. 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:32.800 You didn't chant you, you only added the word podcast. 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:38.280 And then I'm like, no, I would sooner free fall 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:47.520 into space. Then rule this podcast with you. You sick? Oh fascist? Wow? Yeah, 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:51.479 I know it's my birthday though, I know. Sorry, happy birthday, 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.080 but you did, Yeavy and you you brought it on yourself. 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:59.480 We can't. We can't excuse fascism just because it's your birthday. Caitlin, 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:04.760 Happy birthday, thank you. It's true. This is my birthday 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:09.600 episode Big Year. Holy shit. Yeah, I'm forty bitch. I 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:10.000 love it. 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.880 I love it, and you've well tell tell the listeners 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.320 at home how you've been celebrating. 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.480 It's kind of been. I like that for you. You 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.000 are so good at having a birthday and it becomes 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.280 birthday season, not birthday the day. Yeah, it's a whole 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:29.200 this time around, it's a whole year. I started in April. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.080 My birthday is in a few days from the release 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:35.480 of this episode, but I started back in April by 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.480 going to London to see Paddington the musical. That was 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.360 my big birthday treat to myself, and it did not disappoint. 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.760 It was so good. I'm so happy for you. 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.200 That is like, Yeah, the second it happened, I was like, 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.800 I know that Caitlin is going to find their way there. 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.760 It really is just a matter of when. Yeah, but 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.720 you made quick work of it, Thank you, thank you. Yes, 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:03.520 I was very efficient. But yeah. And one of the 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.720 other ways I'm celebrating is by making us talk about 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:09.399 Empire strikes Back. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:14.200 Which I am actually I mean, wow, life comes at 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.160 you fast because I'm so happy to do it, and 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:20.160 I can't imagine myself saying that when this podcast started. No, 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.320 I mean, this is just like a big nostalgia year, 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:28.440 especially us wise, because it's our ten year. We're still 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:30.480 figuring out how to celebrate. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.240 You know. But I think so much about how I remember, 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:38.240 like your thirtieth birthday show at Nerd Melt yeah, and 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.080 how that was a time where it was around the 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:44.000 time that the Star Wars sequels were starting to come out, 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:49.560 and I just couldn't have cared less. But time continued 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.960 to march on, and then I realized I was wrong 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:57.640 as hell. These movies are fun, They're good, They're fun 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.360 and flawed. And guess what, I'm not better than a 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.360 damn person in the world, unlike I thought when this 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:07.280 twenty two or whatever. So I'm so excited. Yeah, I 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.600 mean should we? I guess If this is your first 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:15.280 Bechdel Cast episode, welcome. It's a fun one and we'll 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.000 tell you what the show is really quick. This is 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.960 our podcast where we take a look at your favorite. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.680 Movies and in this case, Caitlin's favorite movies, using an 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:27.919 intersectional feminist lens, using the Bechdel test as the jumping 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:28.880 off point for a discussion. 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.440 But Caitlin, yes, what is that? What is that? Not 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.560 to quiz you on your birthday? Yeah, while making me 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.720 do labor. It is a media metric created by our 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:41.040 dear friend of the podcast, Alison Bechdel. Quick version is 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.320 and our version is it? Do two characters of a 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.240 marginalized gender have names? Do they speak to each other? 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.720 And is there conversation about something other than a man? 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.120 And I think you'll find the reason that we're kind 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.320 of glazing over the specifics of the test in the 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.080 case of this movie is because well, it doesn't pass. 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.720 Even does it doesn't help plow even a little bit 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:02.960 to this movie. 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.320 So you know, like there are certain episodes where we 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:10.520 get really specific about like, well, it could mean this. 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:11.160 It could mean this. 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.560 But there are certain movies where you're like, well it 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:18.279 either it's episodes where it happens a lot or never 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:22.320 even runs the risk of happening, and this is the latter. 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:23.760 We don't really need to get into the. 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.800 Nitty gritty today, No we don't, but we do need 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.919 to get into the nitty gritty of our relationship with 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.279 Star Wars and Jamie, you were already talking a little 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:38.680 bit about yours, but tell us what's your relationship with 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:43.960 this movie specifically and then the larger universe. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:49.039 Yeah, it's been it's been a journey. We actually we 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.279 talked about this a fair amount in our Prequels tour, 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:57.200 which happened early last fall in the Midwest, where my 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:04.599 relationship with Star Wars began with the prequel. I just 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:06.560 was not a sci fi kid at all. I was 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.120 not sci fi or fantasy. I know, we were very 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:13.080 different sci fi fantasy action. We're just not my vibe. 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:18.000 I was like, performatively to criticize myself at eleven years old, 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:22.880 performatively against a lot of it, because I don't know. 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:27.720 I had this mentality that like magic was cheating, So 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:32.760 that's why I don't know. But Star Wars, obviously, I 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.400 remember I didn't see the first prequel in theaters. I 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.960 did see the second one at a drive in, and 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:40.560 remember it being the first movie. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:44.240 I was like, Wow, that was boring, and you were 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.479 not wrong. I was not wrong, and you can listen 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.640 to our Prequels episode for more on that. And then 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:55.200 the third one I performatively loved because they like kind 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.080 of turned Darth Vader into like a sexy, hot topic character, 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.359 which I was into so all over the place. But 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:06.520 I never really watched or engaged with the original trilogy 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:08.719 when I was a kid, so I wouldn't have seen 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.039 The Empire Strikes Back at least until I lived in 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.520 LA I would guess, not for the first time until 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.520 like the last five years. 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:23.120 Probably I just never I mean, and then it definitely 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.200 rewatched it last summer when I was doing like pretty 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:30.680 heavy prep on the prequel and the original trilogy for 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.600 our for our tour, so I can now confidently say 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.680 all this, YadA, YadA, YadA. I can now confidently say 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:42.560 that Empire Strikes Back is indeed my favorite of the 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:43.960 first trilogy. 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:45.839 It's a lot of people's favorite. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.280 I would see, Yeah, it doesn't seem to be a 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:54.200 controversial opinion, but it like it just it hits, it hits, 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.359 and it I mean, while it makes a lot of 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.240 the mistakes that movies of its era also make, there's 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.960 a lot of tokenism, there's a lot of like there's well, 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.919 we'll talk about it, but I think that in terms 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:10.320 of mistakes that Star Wars often makes, it tends to 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:14.520 avoid a few that I associate with this franchise in 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.160 a way that I appreciate. And the performances are so fun. 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.760 It's a great story. I love Lawrence Casten. I enjoyed 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.400 learning about Lee Brackett, who I didn't really know anything about. 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.480 Same and yeah, I don't know, I just this is 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:28.600 my favorite one of the trilogy. 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.080 Although I think that because I know your favorite is 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.200 Return of the Jedi, that while that's. 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:39.600 Not one that I love, I do love the Ewoks 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.000 and if the Ewoks were in Empire strikes Back, it 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.000 would be a perfect movie. 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:46.520 I agree, yes, thank you. I know that I cite 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.720 Ewoks as the reason that I love Return of the 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:53.520 Jedi the most, and that's not entirely true. There are 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.200 other things I like about it. And also, and I 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.960 might have brought this up before, either on this podcast 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:05.640 or I've guested on other Star Wars things in the past, 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.960 but the version of Return of the Jedi that I 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.120 watched growing up was an edited for TV version of 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:16.160 the movie that we taped from TV onto a blank VHS, 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.360 which like just trims a lot of the I think 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:25.040 unnecessary bits from that movie makes it a lot tighter, 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:29.320 and that version is my favorite movie. When I watched 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:34.480 the theatrical cut of Return of the Jedi, there's weird 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:38.600 stuff that wasn't in the edited down version that I saw, 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.400 and I was like, what the hell is this? I yeah, 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.160 I get why people think it's kind of not the best, 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:48.520 But was there anything else about your your relationship with 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:52.600 Star Wars Before I start to wax poetic about it, No, 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:57.760 I just my favorite. I love Babbu Frick. I didn't 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.720 see The Last Jedi when it came out in theaters. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:04.920 I might have seen episode seven, but we definitely saw episode. 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:10.120 Nine together and we were freaking it up. That's my 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:16.640 full history. Incredible for my Star Wars fandom. I mean, 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:20.720 you have history, I've got history. This is a fandom 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.040 that I do not talk about as much as some 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:27.720 of my other fandoms, such as Paddington or Titanic, for example. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:31.680 But I am a long time Star Wars head, especially 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.400 this original trilogy. I am not a completionist when it 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.640 comes to all the Star Wars content out there. There 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.080 are a bunch of series that I haven't watched, and 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:42.960 I mean, at some point it's just like it kiss 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:46.800 to be too much. Yeah, so there are many fans 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:51.640 who know a lot more like Star Wars lore than me. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:56.800 But I've seen this original trilogy dozens of times, probably 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:01.880 starting around like age nine or ten. This specific movie 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:06.160 I've watched many many times. I love the World. I 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.880 also love and Or. I have an and Or tattoo. 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:14.240 I also love Baboo frick Ough now we're talking. I'm 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:18.480 back excited to see him in the Mandalorian movie that's 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.520 about to come out. I can't wait. 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:22.600 We were just talking about because we were just talking 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:27.240 about Kerry Fisher on a recent episode of Daly's Eeitgeist Icons. 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.400 Yeah I haven't seen him. Sec Oh I remember you 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:34.520 texting me saying that the Babu frick Gians were in 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:36.640 Mandalorian season three. 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.839 Right, that wasn't me because I did not watch the 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:40.480 show that far. 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.920 Oh okay, someone must have told me either way. But yeah, 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.040 he's he's back, baby, He's on the poster and everything. 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:51.120 I can't wait. Oh yeah, I'm very excited. So yeah, 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.319 like because that movie's coming out, it felt also like 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:57.760 a good time to talk about this movie, specifically because 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:02.800 the lore of the mandolori Orians, like Bobaffett is like 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:07.559 one of those people. The first Star Wars movie that 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.559 he appears in is this one. I think, Like, I 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.080 know he's not in a note of hope, but there's 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:18.120 like also random like there's a Christmas special that everyone 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:21.240 forgets about. But anyway, like I mean, people talk about 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.719 the Christmas Special. This isn't isn't isn't Boba Fett like 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:28.120 a meaningful part of that. I barely remember it. I 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.520 just remember you meet Chewbacca's whole family and they look 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:38.480 so fucking freaky. But honestly is worth a watch. We 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.520 should watch it some Christmas together, should cover it, We 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:46.960 should cover it, Yes, yes, but yeah, I love Empire 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:51.800 strikes Back, and yet Return of the Jedi is still 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.240 my favorite, and I will probably insist that we cover 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.679 that for another birthday episode of mine, maybe even next year. 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.680 We'll see Oh my god, wow. Okay, but uh yeah. 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.240 Shall we take a quick break and then come back 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:18.960 for the recap. Let's do it and we're back. Okay. 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:23.240 So first, I'll start with a very brief recap of 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:28.599 episode four, just in case anyone needs a refresher. The 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:35.280 evil Galactic Empire has built this huge planet destroying Death 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:39.679 Star space station thing. We meet Princess Leah. She's a 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:44.439 member of the Rebel Alliance that are rebelling against the Empire. 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.360 She puts blueprints for the Death Star into R two 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.720 D two and then he and C three po escape 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.800 to the planet of Tattooine, where they end up in 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:59.679 the possession of Luke Skywalker, who links up with a 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:04.640 Jedi knight named Obi Wan Kenobi. Together, they find a 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:09.960 hologram message from Princess Leah about these Death Star plans, 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:12.920 so they set off to deliver R two D two 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:17.400 and the plans to the secret base of the Rebel Alliance. 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:22.920 They do so in the Millennium Falcon, a ship piloted 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:28.839 by space smugglers Han Solo and Chewbacca. You've seen it 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.319 at the Lego store. Yes, it's a you know, a 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:35.120 little known ship called the Millennium Falcon. And then as 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.640 they're flying around in this ship, they get pulled into 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.800 the tractor beam of the Death Star, where they find 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:46.520 and rescue Princess Leia, who had been captured by Darth Vader, 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.360 the big bad Boy. Yeah, and if you don't know 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.120 who Darth Vader is, we can't help you. Sorry, we 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:56.199 cannot help you. Yes, yeah, he and Obi Wan Kanobi 0:13:56.480 --> 0:14:01.400 have a lightsaber battle. Obi Wan is killed, the others 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.120 escape in the Millennium Falcon again and they make it 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.240 to the rebel base where the Death Star plans are analyzed. 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:12.600 They discover a weakness and after this big space battle, 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:18.640 Luke Skywalker blows up the Death Star. The end and Now, 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:22.960 and that leads us right into episode five. Empire strikes 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:27.240 back with a very satisfying little time jump that I appreciated. Yes, 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.200 we skip over some stuff and we're caught up to 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:34.080 speed in the famous Star Wars opening scroll. Of course, 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:39.080 I believe it's been a couple of years since the 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.920 first I was seeing three years after the destruction of 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.520 the Death Star, is what I was saying, which actually 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.080 I didn't remember in preparing for this, and actually did 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.960 kind of help address some of the story questions I had, 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:55.440 where you're just like, well, it's been three years, you know, 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.400 there's a lot of shit that's gone on. It's been 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:01.680 eighty four years minus eighty one years. At this point, 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.840 it's like, you know, Lea and Han, it's like it's 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:08.200 like a work crush, you know, like it's not love 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.840 it for a sight. They've been they've been colleagues, yes, 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.440 for years, right, And we don't know exactly how much 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.840 time they've spent together in those three years. Yes, I 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:20.760 was not totally clear on that. But we learn in 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:25.600 the opening scroll that Imperial troops are hunting members of 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:30.840 the Rebel Alliance across the galaxy. A group of Rebel fighters, 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:35.600 including our friends Luke Skywalker, Princess Leah, Han, Solo, Tobacca 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.080 C three, PO R two D two, and others, have 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:45.280 established a secret base on the ice planet of Hath. Meanwhile, 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.600 Darth Vader is obsessed with finding Luke Skywalker and has 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:54.600 sent out like probes to look for him. Question Mark, like, 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.080 we I have to believe we're not meant to truly know. 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:04.680 I did, Like I remember when I rewatched it last summer, 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.600 being like, ooh, this is a fun little fashion moment 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.080 in the Empire strikes back that because it starts on Hath, 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.560 like everyone kind of has this like little ellll Bean. 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.960 Thing going on where they're wearing parkas, and there's at 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.880 least for Han and Luke, there's a big like I 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.040 took my hood off and here I am and I'm 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.680 still sexy and awesome moment that is so like we 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.560 come to this place. I really I enjoyed it. I 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.640 enjoyed the the de robing. Sure, sure, yeah, I meant 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.680 to do this earlier during my like history and relationship 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.000 with Star Wars. But I have a little show and 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.800 tell moment if you'll indulge me. Oh please, I have 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.360 a bunch of Star Wars memorabilia that I've collected over 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:51.040 the years. Huh and so first, great for a podcast 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.640 that we've refused to pivot to video. A Yes, this 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:57.680 is an audio medium. However, I will describe these things 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.320 and then people will really, you're a writer, Wow, thank you. 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:05.359 We're going to conjure an image. My tools are words. Okay, 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:12.280 So this thing is a canister of haf chocolate, Hoth cocoa. Wow, yeah, 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:16.880 ok yeah, Hoth coco. I also have a Boba fet 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:21.399 This is a coin bank. What is it about? 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.880 What is it about boba fet that is so appealing 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.159 to people? I like, I've never quite understood it because 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.399 I was so surprised on the rewatch of being like, oh, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.720 this is the movie, we meet Boba fetted and. 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:38.440 He's so like random to me. I just like, I'm like, 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.359 I don't understand why people have but people have like 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.880 an absolutely, like fervent connection to this character. I never 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.119 really understood it either. He does appear on screen a 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.040 little bit more in Return of the Jedi, but cumulatively 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:56.520 his moments on screen and Empire are maybe one minute 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.119 of screen timely there. They don't even call him my 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.080 name either. Darth Vader just keeps calling him bounty hunter. 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.199 He's a guy doing cool stuff. But there's a lot 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.600 of guys doing cool stuff in Star Wars, and I 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.960 don't think the prequels really help retcon that, honestly, because you're. 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.720 Like, oh, Boba fet has a difficult relationship with his father. 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.040 What's fucking new in this franchise? 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:22.159 So true? God? Yes, Okay, a few more items, and 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.159 some of them are very specific to this movie. This 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.320 is a little book called I Just as Soon Kiss 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:32.480 a Wookie and other Star Wars quotes. This is a 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:38.640 book called the Star Wars Cookbook Wookie Cookies, Wookie Cookies. Yes, 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.359 I mean, I guess it was just sitting there precisely. 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.359 This is a book called how to Speak Wookie. And 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:48.480 then there's buttons on it. I wonder if the batteries 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.720 are still alive. No, they sure aren't. I'd pressed a 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:55.399 button and nothing happened. Okay. Last thing I'll share is 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:00.560 we simply can't forget my Ladies of Star Wars Deck 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:05.879 of Cards. Yes, yes, I honestly do sometimes because my 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:10.119 my recall on the original trilogy. Unfortunately, my recall is 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:14.560 best on the prequels because and again you should go 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.760 back and listen to our Prequels episode because I'm very 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.760 proud we did a lot of work to prep for that. 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.399 We sure did. But this one. This one, for me 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.000 at least, is gonna be a little looser because I 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:28.080 did not have weeks to prepare and or tickets on 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:31.480 the line. Yeah, but I kind of forgot if this 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.760 was the the one with Java or not. It is 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:36.760 not the one with Java, and I think that that 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.560 works to its advantage quite a bit, I would say so. 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:44.000 Although I love the sequence at Jaba's palace, so I. 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:48.399 I, okay, this is like, well, this is related but 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.960 not related to Empire Strikes Back. But I was so 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:54.520 shocked because I'm so out of the loop with this 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.560 franchise that I know that, like fans. 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:01.480 Knew about Jeremy Allen Jaba for probably months and years, 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.040 but I was so when I was watching the trailer 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.560 for the Mandalorian and Grogu and they were like Jeremy 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.440 Allen White, and I was like, where I must have 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:12.600 missed me? I don't know about this of what do 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:16.480 you speak? Look up Jeremy Allen White Star Wars. He's 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:20.560 playing like Jaba's son nephew. Ever, forget where it is. 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.480 He's Jeremy Allen Jaba. You're like, what, Well, if you 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.880 recall I made a big deal about Jaba's small son 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:32.920 who appears in Is that Jeremy Allan Jaba. I was 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.960 so let me see. I also was like, I guess 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:39.280 I don't understand what point in his career Jeremy Allen 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.680 why does that? This is a confusing career marker where 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:44.920 you're like, you can be in Star Wars, We're not 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:48.320 gonna look at you like, yeah, well, it's like when 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:53.240 Daniel Craig plays a Stormtrooper who's on screen for like 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.960 three seconds in one of the sequels. Yeah, but you 0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:59.879 wouldn't know if it was him because he's in a Stormtrooper. 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:02.920 But he was already very famous by that point. But 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:07.320 Jeremy Allan Jaba is like second built. He's like a 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:11.359 big part of Yeah, he plays Roda the hut Rada, 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.520 the hut I'm not sure how to pronounce it, but yeah, 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:18.359 he's calling him Jeremy Allen Jaba. That I just was. 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:20.399 I don't know why that was so shocking to me. 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.800 I just don't think of him as Jeremy Allen Jaba. 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:30.119 I mean, he contains multitudes, I guess. So anyway, anyways, 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.200 can't wait for Baba Frick, I will be seeing Jeremy 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:37.480 Allen Jaba in theaters. Same do you want to go together? 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:42.119 Oh my gosh, if you'll have me, I will. Okay, Okay, 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:46.160 let's do this, do it? Okay? Back to fire strikes back, 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:51.879 we cut too. Hof the ice planet, Luke is riding 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:58.560 around on his ton Ton creature when the Abominable Snowman 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:02.600 attacks and captures him. This is so iconic where you're 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:04.680 just like, I didn't know that he could get to 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:08.280 wherever this is. It is like right up there with 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:11.399 monsters incorporated, with places you don't expect to see. The 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:16.520 Abominable Snowman appear. No, he's around. Yeah, he gets around. 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:19.920 He gets around, including a long time ago in a 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:26.720 galaxy far far away, and so he captures Luke Skywalker. Meanwhile, 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:30.200 on the rebel base, Han Solo is getting ready to 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:33.520 leave to pay off his debt to Jaba the Hut, 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:39.639 father of Jeremy Allen Jaba. Princess Leah gets when the 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:44.480 Han Solo is planning to leave, and she wants him 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:48.119 to stay because he's a valuable asset to the rebellion 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:52.640 and also maybe because she likes him. Question Mark, We'll 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:57.240 talk about it. We'll talk about it. But whatever feelings 0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:00.600 they have for each other, they are unw willing to 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:04.080 admit it to each other, and also it's mostly Han 0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:09.000 solo being a complete dick. Yeah. Hahn realizes that Luke 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.720 is missing, so he goes out looking for him. Cut 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:17.160 to Luke in an ice cave, the Abominable Snowman's ice cave, 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.840 where he uses his Jedi powers that he's been working 0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:26.240 on to summon his lightsaber and kill the Abominable Snowman. 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:30.640 But the Abottable Snowman made an incredible recovery at least 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:34.160 by two thousand and one. In Monsters Inc. To meet 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:38.520 Mike Wazaski. Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, of course, Luke 0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:42.920 escapes into the blizzard. He's freezing to death. He starts 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:48.400 Jedi hallucinating and sees a vision of Obi Wan Kenobi, 0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:51.040 who tells him to go to the Dagabus system and 0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:56.000 find Master Yoda so that Luke can complete his Jedi training. 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:59.280 It's part of there ison that Jedi shit is so 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.200 fun and has to be so useful as a writer, 0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:06.600 because it is just having a plot hallucination, a plot 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:11.600 based hallucination. Whenever it's convenient, Obi Wan Kenobi's ghost like 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.840 force ghost will just show up and either deliver some 0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:18.480 exposition or move the plot forward, and you. 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:21.520 Really don't need It's not that you don't need to, 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:24.560 it's that you're not allowed to ask questions because the 0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:27.680 very concept of faith is on the line. It's a 0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:29.879 very high stakes plot device they have. 0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:33.800 There, yeah, yeah, and good for them. Yeah. So then 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:37.960 Han Solo finds and rescues Luke. They return to the base, 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:43.199 where Han continues to be a dick. So Leah kisses 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:47.880 Luke to perhaps make Han Solo jealous, which is one 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:54.200 of cinema's most flaccid kisses. Also fully we don't know 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:59.040 in this movie, but fully ancestual. Also yeah, she kisses 0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.399 her brother, but she doesn't know that they're brother and 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.040