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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, seventy five percent of us

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Speaker 1: already for the start of another broadcast day Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: for a Wednesday here at the Star in Frisco. And

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Speaker 1: when Mickey finally sits down and puts a headset on,

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Speaker 1: we'll get started with Talking Cowboys. It's the Cowboys and

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets this week. Bill Jones, Brian brought

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Speaker 1: us Rob Phillips and Mickey Spagnola. Do you know I

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Speaker 1: can hear without him? Oh? You can't. Yeah, Well, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. Mickey. How are you. I'm good, I'm

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Speaker 1: rushing all right? Yes? And uh Rob, how are you

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Speaker 1: doing great? Great? I'm ready? All right, you're ready and

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Speaker 1: Brian has been ready. I'm always ready. Let's go. He

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Speaker 1: is ready to go? All right. I need I was

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Speaker 1: just taking a segment with Will McClay that you can

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Speaker 1: see on The Jason Garrett Show. And right here on

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com later in the week. So I

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Speaker 1: missed Jason Garrett, and so did the coach shed any

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Speaker 1: light on anything for us? Doesn't sound like you're going

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Speaker 1: to see much from Tyrn Smith or Lyle Collins today.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't necessarily mean one or both won't play Sunday,

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Speaker 1: but as they get back in pads today, you're probably

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Speaker 1: not going to see him maybe a little bit. Actually,

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Speaker 1: he said Tyrone would probably do something little something something.

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Speaker 1: You didn't say, little something, walk off. Okay, that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a shot at me. That's

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Speaker 1: a shot. No, that's why we're late. You got that

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Speaker 1: information because we're late. Yeah, that's right, that's why Bicky

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Speaker 1: You know, there needs to be, and you know, if

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Speaker 1: You know, he'll do what he has to do. But

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Speaker 1: if Smith can line up at left tackle, and then

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Speaker 1: also then you turn around and you get Cam Fleming

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Speaker 1: get night ready. But you know, to me, having Tyron

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Speaker 1: where he's rushed. Yeah, absolutely, But just the uncertainty at

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Speaker 1: So you know, having Tyron Smith there to be able

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Speaker 1: to handle, you know, the Jets. Jason Garrett said it

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Speaker 1: today that Jets have got some some I think if

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Speaker 1: you look at their team, the strength of their team

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Speaker 1: would be like on that defensive line with what we

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Speaker 1: would definitely help Dak Prescott's confidence, not that he lacks confidence,

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Speaker 1: seen him make before. Got sacked three times last week.

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Speaker 1: all previous four games. So for sure, Um, we'll see

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Speaker 1: this week too. Yeah. I think Antoine Woods is a

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Speaker 1: the Jets can run the ball at all. Maybe they won't.

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Speaker 1: They need all these guys back. You're you're past the

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Speaker 1: game this week. Yeah. I don't want to hear that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And you're talking to captain must win right here, you know,

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Speaker 1: you got to treat it like you're playing the Patriots. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I can imagine the Jets being old juice Stoup for

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Speaker 1: this game. You're you're owing four, but you're getting your quarterback. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And I'm tired of you know, well this and this

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Speaker 1: the winless team. I'm telling you, at some point they're

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Speaker 1: People kill him all the time for what he does

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Speaker 1: like we never defer, and we seem to defer more

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Speaker 1: this year. And I'm not complaining about that, but I've

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Speaker 1: noticed that it seems like our defense isn't playing as

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Speaker 1: well because I remember last year, if I recall, right,

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Speaker 1: we were going downfield and scoring a lot on that

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Speaker 1: first drive. Yep, yeah, you know, and it seems like

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Speaker 1: that's put our defense and a struggle. It seems like

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Speaker 1: and I've noticed that, and I just want to tell

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Speaker 1: Cowboys things, relax, let's hang on to the down ball

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Speaker 1: and will win games. I wrote about it yesterday. The

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Speaker 1: Jets don't score, do there, No, they don't. I think

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Speaker 1: they lead the league in a twenty eight game drought

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Speaker 1: without an opening drive touchdown. But I wrote about it yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys. I think I have thirteen points in the

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Speaker 1: first quarter. That's four games, and yeah, they're not going

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Speaker 1: down and scoring early. And some of it is like

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Speaker 1: we've talked about, it's it's there. It's on them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Mary Cooper said it. I looked too far ahead towards

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Speaker 1: the end zone. I should have had a touchdowns. He

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Speaker 1: deferred every game so far this year. I can look

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Speaker 1: at it up real quick. But I have the first possessions, punt, punt,

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Speaker 1: field goal, punt, interception. Yeah, and I believe he's in

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Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen season that they were. They were phenomenal

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Speaker 1: on the first drive. Yeah, sure. I remember tracking it

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Speaker 1: during the season and I was just trying to see

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Speaker 1: if I could find some old tweets where I had

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Speaker 1: the stats on that, because it was it was remarkable

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Speaker 1: because they would start at their own twenty five, and

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Speaker 1: it was like with regularity, it wasn't just a field

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Speaker 1: goal drive, it's a touchdown drive to start game. It's

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Speaker 1: really the third quarter. Well yeah, the third quarter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like like the third quarter this year. But look

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Speaker 1: those up. Yeah, it's a really weird stat because I

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Speaker 1: mean they're number one in offense in the NFL based

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Speaker 1: on total yardage yardage, they're not converting that into points.

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Speaker 1: And I think the last two games have just been

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Speaker 1: just been totally out of whack, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: And one of the issues. Okay, there their first in

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Speaker 1: total yards. You say, okay, where are they in field position?

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Speaker 1: Starting field position? They are thirty first in the league

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Speaker 1: and starting field position, And that gets back to not

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Speaker 1: getting short fields, not getting takeaways on defense and when

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Speaker 1: you have to drive seventy five eighty eighty five yards

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Speaker 1: every time you get the football, Um, there's you're going

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Speaker 1: to run more plays and there's more chance that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna make some mistakes. And am I crazy? Did when

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Speaker 1: Rod Marinoli was defensive coordinator in Chicago? Did they lead

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Speaker 1: the league in turnovers every year? Or cren with Peanut

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Speaker 1: Tillman and those guys have to go back to Henry Melton.

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Speaker 1: But Seattle's defenses did too with Chris Richard there. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: So to me, it's it's you know, is it the players,

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Speaker 1: Is it luck or the is it the bounce of

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Speaker 1: the ball? Is it the tip pass? You know what

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Speaker 1: is it? Well, you've pointed out times this year or

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Speaker 1: they've had chance, hey the other day on the goal line,

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Speaker 1: if that ball does not hit Robert Quinn's head, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be Byron Jones is going to get an interception.

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Speaker 1: I mean that that just shows you though the past

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Speaker 1: was so poorly thrown by Rogers that it hit Quinn

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Speaker 1: in the head and it and then it gets up

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Speaker 1: in the air and nobody's even near it to to

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Speaker 1: that's usually where you could come up with an easy interception.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's and they just haven't the tackle that

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Speaker 1: a Woozier made on Jones when he tried the reverse field.

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Speaker 1: Balls kind of coming loose there, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they just have not had the breaks. And then they

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Speaker 1: dropped some interceptions early when they were winning those three games.

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Speaker 1: They had some drops in Washington game. I remember, you know,

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Speaker 1: Heath had a couple of opportunities. They didn't need the interceptions.

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Speaker 1: Did they we need him now? Oh no, absolutely. But

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Speaker 1: I just remember Rod Marinelli when he was a defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator in Chicago. They were one of the test teams

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Speaker 1: at Tampa always got turnovers. And people are saying, well,

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Speaker 1: Rob's defense doesn't Rod's defense doesn't create turnovers. Well, maybe

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Speaker 1: the players don't create turnovers. You know, maybe that's and

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you you know, you evaluate guys.

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Speaker 1: I remember a guy like Darren Sharper, you know, back

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Speaker 1: in the day, Darren Sharper, when you watched him playing

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Speaker 1: Green Bay and then in New Orleans and the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl team they had. There's some guys with the ball

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Speaker 1: just gravitates towards them. They create that opportunity where the

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Speaker 1: ball is just right there and then they make a

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Speaker 1: pick or they pick up a fumble or something like that.

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Speaker 1: A big question. We we thought that maybe that Woods

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Speaker 1: would be that guy. Xavier Woods would be the type

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Speaker 1: of guy. Yeah, big question we get on the mailbag.

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Speaker 1: And I know you've answered this before, so I don't

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Speaker 1: give it to you. But why don't they the corners

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Speaker 1: turned for the ball. That's a big question by fans,

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Speaker 1: especially on the heels of Anthony Brown from the well.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, when you're scrambling from behind trying to

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Speaker 1: catch up, it's hard to turn and run with head

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Speaker 1: turned around. You know what. And I've heard things, Rob

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Speaker 1: that's the way that Chris ra Shard teaches, where you

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Speaker 1: react to the hands going up, you look at the eyes,

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Speaker 1: react to the hands. Right. That's what we've answered before.

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Speaker 1: And that's and you know what, christ Shard gets to

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Speaker 1: speak again tomorrow afternoon. You know, maybe it's one of

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Speaker 1: those things you ask them again, you say, Chris, is

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Speaker 1: it Is it fundamentally something that you coach to not

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Speaker 1: look for the ball? Or is it? No? No, no,

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Speaker 1: we look for the ball, but we do it this way,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean that's not a question on camera,

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Speaker 1: but maybe it's a question on the side that you

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Speaker 1: can kind of say, is there something that you're that

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Speaker 1: you're saying teach, you're teaching eyes, hands up to the

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Speaker 1: you know, to making the play. That's that's what I've

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Speaker 1: been told before. I don't know if that philosophy has

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Speaker 1: changed at all. That's what I was told by Dave Campo.

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Speaker 1: It was on the heels. I'm looking to see if

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Speaker 1: I still have the text from him. I'll let you

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Speaker 1: look for it. They were two and one when they

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Speaker 1: deferred and one and one when they've lost the toss. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Surely I don't have a text from

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Speaker 1: two years ago on here. Sure you do, billion an

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Speaker 1: old man. But this was This was two years ago

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Speaker 1: after Aaron Rodgers threw the touchdown pass over Jordan or

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Speaker 1: Lewis to beat the Cowboys. In fact, what's the day today?

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00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: October ninth? Okay, it was October eighth, twenty seventeen. The

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Speaker 1: only reason I know that is I looked it up

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Speaker 1: over the weekend. The I'm going to digress for just

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Speaker 1: a second. The SMU touchdown pass to beat Tulsa and

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Speaker 1: triple over time the other night by Shane Bushel. It

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00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: reminded me of Aaron Rodgers touchdown pass to Davante Adams

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Speaker 1: to beat the Cowboys, and so I didn't so I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: actually when win that, Well, that was Aaron Rodgers last

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Speaker 1: visit to AT and T Stadium. So we used it

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Speaker 1: on the pregame show on Sunday morning. That's why I

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Speaker 1: know this date. It was October eighth of two years

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Speaker 1: What did Campos say? Campos said, get to the point

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00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: Bill Campos said that went on that play, Jordan Lewis

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Speaker 1: looked back at Aaron Rodgers and as soon as he

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Speaker 1: did that, he was beat. Right according to Campo, that

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Speaker 1: they don't teach him to look back, and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: quarterback like Aaron Rodgers is just gonna eat your live

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Speaker 1: when you do that, you have to You're you're basically

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Speaker 1: face guarding whatever, which isn't against the rules, and you're

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Speaker 1: as what you're saying that Chris Richard, I guess has

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Speaker 1: said hands up. Yeah, it's like when the other guy's

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Speaker 1: hands go up to yep, you can't defend the pass.

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Speaker 1: If you look back right, you're beat. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's what Rachard probably held them. Yeah, so we've answered

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Speaker 1: it before. We just get asked that. Yeah, they don't

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Speaker 1: create turnovers. They don't. They don't. They don't. You know,

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Speaker 1: they've I've seen guys, you know, the team practices it though.

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Speaker 1: How many times you've been out? How many times during

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Speaker 1: training camp? So punch the ball. I mean there's drills

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Speaker 1: just is not It is not materialized like it should be.

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Speaker 1: But it was funny two years ago. Campo, as soon

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Speaker 1: as that happened, he was sitting at home in Jacksonville, Florida,

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Speaker 1: it was like all caps. They got to teach these

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Speaker 1: Diego ready to take off after trading camp, and the

635
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: plane got there early. While we were waiting for the

636
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: team to come back from the Navy Seals. We're all

637
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: sitting around, and so I was sitting in the front

638
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: with the pilots and they were judging everybody's landing. They

639
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: were giving him a score. It's exactly we should hold

640
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: up a piece of bager. Just give me a score. Right,

641
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that tomorrow. They were scoring them one

642
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: to ten. I thought it was pretty funny. I saw,

643
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: you guys have nothing else to do. Don't you have

644
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: something to check? Bounce that one in there? They invited

645
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: you up there, Well, there was nothing going on. He

646
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: grades the landings too, guy can do it all. You know.

647
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: There you go, referee. All right, let's go to Rob

648
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. Next up. I'm talking Cowboys. Hello, Rob. Hey.

649
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: You know, when I look at this offense, I see

650
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 1: a couple of things. I see a young offensive coordinator

651
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: trying to show off his stuff. You know, those guys

652
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: are always auditioning, and he's trying to show, Hey, I'm

653
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: the new, up and coming new Sean McVeigh and I

654
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: see a quarterback kind of doing the same thing. Jack.

655
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: He is these numbers thirty three, thirty four or thirty

656
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year, and he's trying to show

657
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: that he's worth it. I mean, he takes more check

658
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: answers throwing the ball. I think he's improved, but unfortunately,

659
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: when to take chances, bad things can happened. And when

660
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: I look at Ezekiel Elliot, I'm wondering, did we already

661
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: see the best version of his zeka Emily his rookie year,

662
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, he was He went over sixteen hundred yards

663
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: and had fifteen touchdowns. He had the longest run of sixty.

664
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I won't talk about the suspension yet, but

665
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: from there he only had fourteen hundred yards. Last year.

666
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: Did anybody have any more than him on in the league? Yes?

667
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: Last year no, But I'm not comparing him now. But

668
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm comparing him to himself. And all I'm saying is

669
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: he looked physically, he looked different. He was quicker, he

670
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: was more explosive, let's face it, he was like a

671
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: Porsche his rookie year, and now he's more kind of

672
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: like that Nation by five yards to carry. Last week

673
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: he just got twelve attempts. Well, yeah, but last week

674
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: was listen, I'm a Zeke fan. But last week it

675
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: was a little bit of garbage time, just like, run

676
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: the ball garbage time. Run the ball in the first

677
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: quarter pretty much? Okay, and how many yards did wait? No,

678
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question right now? For stars?

679
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: All right, so it's five games in. After three games,

680
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: After three games, what was Dak's pace? Oh? That was

681
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: on fire? Oh? Let me, Rob, Can I ask you

682
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: a question? I think you're being unreasonable, Rob, Can I

683
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: ask you a question? Please? Yeah? Okay, let's figure this out.

684
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: Which one would you rather them? Do you want to

685
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: see them run the ball more or throw the ball more?

686
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: Which one would you like? I? Well, I would like

687
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: to move the ball on balance. I think that's throwing

688
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: the ball. Okay, we all, we all you think there's

689
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: too much. Okay, but pick one? Pick one? What do

690
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: you want to see them to be better at throwing

691
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: it or running it? Which one? I gotta tell you.

692
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: It all depends on what the defense. If you're telling

693
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: me defense is going to be giving up a lot

694
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: of points, they have to be able to throw the ball.

695
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: If this defense is going to play like they did

696
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: last year, then you run the ball more. Okay, it's

697
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: this year, rob It. We know we were five games in.

698
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: What do we know right now about this defense and

699
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: not as good as Okay, so and the Russian smith

700
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: don't look don't look like they overcame the Rams playoff game. Okay, So,

701
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: but you're saying you want you would like them, but

702
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: you came on, you're tell me that we need to

703
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: throw the ball, that we don't need to throw the

704
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: ball more here, But you just told me we need

705
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: to throw the ball right. No, No, I said, if

706
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: this team is only going to give up seventeen points,

707
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 1: I think we could win more running. If you're gonna

708
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: do like you did against Green Bay, where you're gonna

709
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: give up a lot of points, you can't win in

710
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: lit a running game. I'm with I'm with you on

711
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: the balance side, and I don't want Dak Prescott throwing

712
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: the ball forty four times. I'm agreeing with you on that.

713
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: But but I think it all just goes around how

714
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: your defense is playing. I mean, okay, we've seen it.

715
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: We get a league, we run the ball. Okay, well,

716
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: unfortunately last week it was thirty one three, so that

717
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: took the running game right out. So if you told

718
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: me this defense is gonna wake up and play like

719
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: they did last year, said yes, DA does not have

720
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: to throw the ball, I would definitely want to run

721
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: the ball more. Okay, but I don't. I don't. I

722
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: don't know if this defense is gonna is gonna get there?

723
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: This Ben Ben don't break defenses does not work, but

724
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: you don't score. And unfortunately, why we adopted that. I

725
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: have no idea what all these athletes I hear and

726
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: now you got you know these pass rushers. We still

727
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: play like we're scared on defense, but we we don't

728
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: challenge the wide receivers Binary Jones. I think it's pretty good.

729
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: Do you know how many wide receiver receptions the Packers had?

730
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: I know, but you always go to one game? Okay,

731
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: how about the week before? How many points did they

732
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: give up against the Saints? How many points did they

733
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: give up against the Saints? They give up what twelve? Yeah?

734
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: Thank you? Whoops are there? Okay? Okay, must be getting

735
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: a phone call. Yeah, we lost you that from go ahead. Good.

736
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm talking about I'm not facing anything on five games.

737
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm basic, No, I'm not. I'm talking about last year.

738
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: If this defense, like you guys were just talking about it,

739
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: they don't. How do you get turnovers if you're not

740
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: near the wide receivers to break the ball up. We

741
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: don't see that. We play let them catch it, tackle,

742
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: let them catch it, tackle, third and five, let them

743
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: up if we if a Woozie I think is good enough.

744
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: I think Byron Jones is good enough. All Right, the

745
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: safeties over a little weekend. You got these supposedly really

746
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: great linebackers. I could run up on these guys. You

747
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: got pass rushes. There's no excuse this Ben don't break.

748
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: We shouldn't be playing that anymore. You play that when

749
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: you don't have good players. Hope it's a nice day

750
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 1: in the day. Yeah, we started. We started with Kellen

751
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: Moore trying to do too much. But everything I've heard

752
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: is that they've they've tailed it back the last two

753
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: games and I'm not doing as much pre snap stuff

754
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: and I do. This first game, they ran the ball

755
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: thirty times, they threw it thirty two. The second game

756
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: they ran it thirty four times, they threw it thirty

757
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: third game thirty four times through it thirty two, fourth

758
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: game ran it twenty times through a thirty three and

759
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: the last game got out of balance twenty one forty four. Yeah,

760
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: so it's been if they if they were if they

761
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: were able to stay in a game, you know, to

762
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: his point, if if okay, if the defense, if the

763
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: defense continues to struggle, but but it turns it struggled

764
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: in one game. No, no, no, I'm just hear me out,

765
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: kay saying I know, okay, but if the defense, if

766
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: we if you all of a sudden you do see

767
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: a trend where they start to struggle more, then maybe

768
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: the answer is to try and protect them, you know.

769
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: And maybe protecting them is to try and hold the ball,

770
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: to run the ball, you know, but you may not

771
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: first down. No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm

772
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: being I know you are, but I'm just saying, maybe

773
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: you have to find a way to really strive for

774
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: balanced then to try and hold the ball away from

775
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: offenses if they are having trouble. I think one game

776
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: is not you know, I thought they played great against

777
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: the saying everybody, I really do that because they lost

778
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: the game, but they gave up ten, what twelve points? Yeah?

779
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah to me, I thought they played great in that game.

780
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 1: But the problem again if if in fact it okay,

781
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: maybe not so much the Jets, but in Philadelphia, Minnesota, Buffalo,

782
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: I mean New England. You know, you're gonna have some

783
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: games where but if if it turns into your defense

784
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: is just not up to it, then maybe it maybe

785
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to say, Okay, we're gonna have to

786
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: lean on Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard in this offensive

787
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: line a little more. And then that's where the play

788
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: action game really comes in for DAK. But you know,

789
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli will tell you that he's so happy they

790
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: have Ezekiel Elliott because Ezekiel Elliott allows you know, he

791
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: saves wear and tear on their defense, right, you know,

792
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: And maybe they have to get back to it now.

793
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: The Green Bay game was just a bad out of

794
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: balance game because of the score. But Mickey just read

795
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: off right there, it's been pretty balanced, you know, it's

796
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: been pretty balanced the way they play it. Said, those

797
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: the turnovers in the New Orleans game is what lost

798
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: that game. You know that's what That's what lost that

799
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: game really and really this last one too, because it

800
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: could have been a different story and you could have

801
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: had more balance if it wasn't seventeen nothing nearly in

802
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: the second course, see if we'll see you know, you

803
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: might see that team at the end of the year again,

804
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: you know you might you might see that team. You

805
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: might see the Saints at the end of the year. Too,

806
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: very possible. So you gotta you know, you learned your lesson,

807
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: but you know, just kind of Oh, they're doing this,

808
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: and they need to do this, and they need to

809
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: do this, need to do this. I mean, I don't know.

810
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I rob out there. I mean I'm I'm

811
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: okay with him, but I think he was you know,

812
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: you got to think, Okay, what's the one thing you

813
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: can hang your hat on and say, Okay, they need

814
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: to do this. That's what I was trying to get him.

815
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: You want to run the ball more? Or do you

816
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: want to pass the boss? Hopefully he was going to

817
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: say if the maybe he did, if the defense continues

818
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: to suck, I want to run the ball more. I

819
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: want to try and protect them. But then he said, no,

820
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: I want to throw the ball more. But he's telling

821
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: me that Dax makes too many mistakes, trying to do

822
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: too much. So I think Rob's frustrated. Fans of ten

823
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: of the Packers points came after the two of the

824
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: three turnovers. There you go. And one thing I'd like

825
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: to see is some more passes to Zeke out of

826
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: the backfield. Sure like that one he caught downfield over

827
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: his head. He could do that, Yeah, I mean, I mean,

828
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: heck of a catch. That's a heck of a design

829
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: of a route by Aaron Jones for them to get

830
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: him outside on on a linebacker and run him inside

831
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: off a pick. That's that stuff. You can see absolutely,

832
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, you get the same thing with Zeke and

833
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: if any he's open on a lot of stuff that's

834
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: says why not as an outlet guy? Why not? Well,

835
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: rather the second interception, he rather taking chances on some

836
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: throws than keeping keep in mind he had seventy seven

837
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: catches last year's he did, he has thirteen right now,

838
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: which is what a pace for forty something? So not

839
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: good enough. Yep, it's not good enough, especially since they

840
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: have a back that can spell him, you know, I mean,

841
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: which we haven't seen any we were worried about touches

842
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: and wear and tear. Now you've got a guy that

843
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: could can do the same. Stop absolutely all right. That

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