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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jens Drive to with John Hoosiers and Bryan Sexton.

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Speaker 1: Sexton Jangs Drive starts right now, right here, party, how

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Speaker 1: heart it well? At about four under federal back Prescott

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Speaker 1: Profit Toral a complay Look at a second highlights from

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Speaker 1: a dramatic Sunday Here at t I A a bank field.

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Speaker 1: A lot of folks still basking in the glow of

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Speaker 1: that one that found out today, or we'll find out.

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Speaker 1: Rashon Jenkins just named the a f C Defensive Player

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Speaker 1: of the Week, a week after the quarterback was named

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Speaker 1: the a f C Offensive Player of the Week. You

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Speaker 1: know things are going right for your football team when

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Speaker 1: week in and week out your players are vying for

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Speaker 1: top honors. Welcome in. It's a Wednesday, Jacks getting set

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Speaker 1: ahead later this morning to New York to take on

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Speaker 1: the Jets on Thursday Night Football. We bring in John Osier. Um,

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Speaker 1: we have to begin with this piece of news if

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Speaker 1: you have not seen it. UM. NFL Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: are two days shy of the league's fiftieth anniversary celebration,

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Speaker 1: which was coming on Saturday night at halftime of the

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Speaker 1: Steelers Raiders game, which if you don't know the immaculate reception,

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Speaker 1: google it, find it. It is the significant play in

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Speaker 1: NFL history, the best play when it was voted in

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Speaker 1: the hundredth season um as the greatest play of all

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Speaker 1: time and Franco nine Pro Bowls Hall of Fame for

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl Rank Super Bowl m v p um and passes.

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Speaker 1: Today's shy of the actual anniversary and three days shy

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Speaker 1: of the Steelers doing what they don't really do, which

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Speaker 1: is retiring jerseys. And they were putting number thirty two

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Speaker 1: to rest, and they will lay Franco Harris to rest

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Speaker 1: in the very near future. Yeah, if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: of our era. Brian and grew up in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I hated the Steelers, I mean hate him with a

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Speaker 1: every year. And Frank o' harris. I was six years

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Speaker 1: old when he started to get hot in seventy two,

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Speaker 1: really good and a big reason that the Steelers all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden after years of being a revalent irrelevant. Uh,

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Speaker 1: of course the play. And I can remember I was

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Speaker 1: living in Seattle, Washington. It was six years old, and

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Speaker 1: I was a fan of the Washington football team, who

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Speaker 1: I think We're playing the next day against the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers, and they were in the play US for

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Speaker 1: the first time. So playoffs were a big deal. You're

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Speaker 1: a kid, the NFL wasn't what it was now, but

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Speaker 1: if you're into it was great. And there was a

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Speaker 1: Steelers fan and the family lived sort of down the

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Speaker 1: just remember we had gone outside the play whatever we

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Speaker 1: game was over. I mean, there were thirteen seconds left,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you heard from inside his

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Speaker 1: a seminal moment. If you can imagine the Jaguars not

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Speaker 1: making the playoffs for fifty years, getting in and having

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Speaker 1: that play happened to win you the game. Uh, hell me,

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Speaker 1: that was your call, right, Yeah, well, yeah, that one

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Speaker 1: It was again the greatest play as voted on by

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Speaker 1: media and players in the hundred anniversary season. And I

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Speaker 1: never knew Frank O'Brien and I had a chance to

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Speaker 1: and always spoke highly of everybody around him, spoke highly.

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Speaker 1: I'm so rest in peace. I met him once or

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Speaker 1: So let's get going big things here on a Wednesday

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Speaker 1: traveled for the Jaguars this year. Gut wrenching losses. They

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Speaker 1: The game doesn't in until it says on the clock,

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Speaker 1: and as long as we have a little time on

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Speaker 1: that's how we looked at it. Threw up the season

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Speaker 1: So tired of the word destiny right now? I can't

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Speaker 1: even tell you, So I won't say playoff destiny. They're

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Speaker 1: And that's something that this team has a lot of

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Speaker 1: short road this week, and that's the turnaround from Sunday

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not just a stat what you're talking about, Brian,

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Speaker 1: eight weeks when Doug Wood said we're learning how to

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Speaker 1: think he'll be. You know, it's interesting to me that

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Speaker 1: so many veterans feel like they're jaguars here, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure some of it the success they've had last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks that jades you or excuse me, in that direction.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's it's a theme and it's credit

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Speaker 1: to Doug Peterson, credit to these guys that it's come

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Speaker 1: together in that way. Lauren, I'll go with this one

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Speaker 1: for you, and this is seasonal obviously, with Christmas coming

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Speaker 1: up on Sunday. What would you rather have Tomorrow night's

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Speaker 1: primetime game in New York with the playoffs on the line,

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Speaker 1: the bright lights of the biggest stage in the league.

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Speaker 1: Or would you rather be playing this one Saturday at

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Speaker 1: one o'clock? I mean, obviously the trade offs here are, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Saturday at one o'clock, You're you're playing on Christmas Eve,

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Speaker 1: and it eats up a big amount of family time.

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Speaker 1: And you know these guys are gonna get three days

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Speaker 1: off because of the Thursday night game. But maybe you're

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Speaker 1: a little healthier, you feel a little bit better. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know what would you is this what you want

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Speaker 1: this week primetime Thursday night and all that comes with that,

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Speaker 1: or would you rather have be one o'clock game on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of a cop out answer, but most

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Speaker 1: coaches to tell you this, You want the Thursday game

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Speaker 1: if you win, because then you get the benefits of it.

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Speaker 1: It's cool, and then you get that time off. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, I enjoy the Thursday game because I don't

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Speaker 1: mind the short week. It gives you a couple of

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Speaker 1: days off. For somebody covering it like us, it's fantastic. Uh.

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Speaker 1: For the players. As I've gotten to know players over

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Speaker 1: the years, I understand what they go through to get ready.

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Speaker 1: I think I think there's a games are are are

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Speaker 1: a cruel necessity for the players? Well, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of money involved. Now I think it's a billion dollar

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Speaker 1: in your package just for the Thursday night game. The

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Speaker 1: other side of the coin is is is are they

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Speaker 1: at a competitive disadvantage because the Jets aren't traveling? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because the Jaguars are turning around and traveling on Wednesdayeah.

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Speaker 1: There are those who who says the case, I would

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Speaker 1: like Brian then and I know they can't do this,

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Speaker 1: but it would be a good thing if the league

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Speaker 1: really worked harder to give teams a bye before the

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Speaker 1: Thursday game. Uh. And that would take a lot of

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Speaker 1: the physical strain off a lot of them. The only

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Speaker 1: problem with that is if you you almost have to

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Speaker 1: do it for both teams. Are one of them? Is

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Speaker 1: that's such a is it such a disadvantage, but never

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Speaker 1: do that because they don't listen to Johnny and it's

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Speaker 1: awesome impossible. Other than that they should do it. We'll

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Speaker 1: leave it to that. We'll come back with Fridays headlines

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Speaker 1: today to wrap up a Wednesday edition of Jack's Drive

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Speaker 1: holiday special, Go Jaguars. Our job is to change culture.

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Speaker 1: Our job is to you know, promote a winning culture

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Speaker 1: and a winning atmosphere and um, you know it's it's

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Speaker 1: obviously it doesn't it doesn't come overnight. It's not a

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Speaker 1: quick fix, as you as you guys know, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I think, I think what the players and the team

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Speaker 1: have done this year in four games, um to go

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Speaker 1: to and too you know, when trailing seventeen points is huge.

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Speaker 1: It it shows us and shows them that that that

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Speaker 1: we're flipping this culture and this narrative and um, you

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Speaker 1: can't worry about the past obviously, but but we can

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Speaker 1: learn from it, um, and and it's it's really good

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Speaker 1: to see that the guys have they've bought into that,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and they really haven't. Even the guys

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Speaker 1: that have been here, you know, multiple years, um, I

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Speaker 1: think are in a different place mentally than they were,

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Speaker 1: you know, just a few years ago. So that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a really good thing that's going on. Head coach

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson. That was Monday, and I threw it in

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Speaker 1: because you and I had a conversation on the way

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Speaker 1: off the practice field yesterday were we compared Doug and

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Speaker 1: his demeanor, the way he goes about things to a

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Speaker 1: guy you covered and a guy that I admired and

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Speaker 1: sure all of our viewers do as well, Tony Dungee.

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Speaker 1: And I've said it before that Tony Dungee is that

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Speaker 1: even killed guy, right? I mean, nothing bothers him. I

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Speaker 1: remember here in two thousand and six, the Jags ran

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Speaker 1: for three and seventy five yards and I went to

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Speaker 1: his postgame news conference because I wanted to hear how

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Speaker 1: it was was just explained that right here was a team

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Speaker 1: with Super Bowl aspirations, and he said, it's a problem.

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Speaker 1: We'll fix it, and they did and they won the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Right since then, I've always admired that, even

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Speaker 1: Keel and that's what Doug is was. So even I

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Speaker 1: haven't done the research I need to, uh, but if

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Speaker 1: you remember Doug the year that the he was one

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, they lost Carson Wentz and seasons over,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they were the top seed, but the narrative

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Speaker 1: when they lost Carson Wentz, that's it, and then they

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Speaker 1: go in the super Bowl relatively similar thing to what

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Speaker 1: you're talking about with Tony and the next two years.

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Speaker 1: And I wasn't covering the Eagles, so I don't know

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Speaker 1: it intrinsically, but the Eagles had to sort of come

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Speaker 1: back each of the next two years from rocky starts.

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Speaker 1: They were always a team that navigated the end of

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Speaker 1: the season and got there when with games on the

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Speaker 1: line and games that mattered. UM, not really that surprising

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Speaker 1: that he's held this team together and got them into situation.

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Speaker 1: He has a knack for getting teams and situations where

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Speaker 1: they have a chance to go do it. Interesting factoid

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Speaker 1: on this game, Brian. If the Jaguars win and the

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Speaker 1: Titans lose this week in terms of the FC South,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars game next week doesn't matter because they will

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Speaker 1: be in a situation where even if they lose to

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Speaker 1: the Texans, its winner take all. The Jaguars can't clench

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Speaker 1: the South before that last game, by the way, because

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Speaker 1: they can't get far enough ahead of the Titans, and

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Speaker 1: and so this game matters very much. The Titans would

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Speaker 1: happen to lose, the j Wars won't rest players next

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Speaker 1: week because there's wild card stuff, But it takes the

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Speaker 1: pressure off of that game. Uh. I said, that was interesting,

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Speaker 1: don't you know. And we were standing there again on

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Speaker 1: the practice field, just say, talking with some folks, just

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Speaker 1: like what a position this team could be and had

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Speaker 1: they won one or two more of those games, And

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Speaker 1: it was just idle conversation. It wasn't as if they're

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Speaker 1: hanging their hat on that excuse, but where this team

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Speaker 1: could be. And again you can have this this philosophical conversation.

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't be where they are if they hadn't gone

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Speaker 1: through what they did. And I mean, you make a

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Speaker 1: strong case a couple of excuse me, a couple of

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Speaker 1: their wins Baltimore Dallas were by a thread, so those

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Speaker 1: could have easily gone the other way they they earned.

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Speaker 1: I'm not taking away from him, but in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: it's really tough to go back and say, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: if they had done this, if they had done this.

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Speaker 1: So it's easy, though, to go forward and say if this,

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Speaker 1: then that, if the Jaguars win, there are three remaining games,

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Speaker 1: no matter what the Titans do the next two weeks,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars when the a f C South. All right,

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Speaker 1: it is time for Friday's headlines today. Here's what we

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Speaker 1: think but theoretical headline would look like after the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: primetime game against the Jets. Want to go, well, Brian,

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Speaker 1: I've been picking against them all season and they've gotten

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Speaker 1: to this point. So that out of out of uh whatever,

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Speaker 1: that is superstition for fans not to get mad at me.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say, whoops, they slipped up in New York. Um.

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Speaker 1: That's my official pig official. I'm couching it by saying

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Speaker 1: I don't feel its strongly about. It's a good chance

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Speaker 1: they go up and handle it. The thing that worries

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Speaker 1: you about this game is the weather, the Jets defense.

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Speaker 1: If the Jaguars sort of stumble a little bit early

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Speaker 1: like they've been doing uh, could the Jets get a

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Speaker 1: break or to offensively get ahead of them make the

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Speaker 1: weather tough to get back into it. Um So my

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Speaker 1: official pick is would with a smile because next year

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Speaker 1: we need to get the guys in digital to create

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Speaker 1: a graphic and a headline for us, and we'll keep

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Speaker 1: scores we go through just for fun. Right, Um, mine

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Speaker 1: is going to be in typical New York post style

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Speaker 1: and it will be Missiletoad and have a picture of

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Speaker 1: Riley Patterson kicking the ball as he kicks the game

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Speaker 1: winning field goal. Because I think you realized last weekend

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Speaker 1: you had two a FC South games that went to

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Speaker 1: overtime and two a f C South games the Colts

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Speaker 1: game in Minnesota on Saturday and the Titans game in

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Speaker 1: l A on Sunday, that we're decided by a field

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Speaker 1: goal on the final play of the game. I think

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Speaker 1: that's the case. I think the Jaguars win by a

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Speaker 1: field goal and it's as missile Toad as the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: leave New York with the the Gang Green feeling grinchy.

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing to watch this week is two is

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Speaker 1: where Tennessee is they thus four in a row. They

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Speaker 1: fought last week um, it just communisting to see how

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Speaker 1: the season plays out. Uh again, Jameson have to win

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Speaker 1: that last game. There's no there's no getting around that.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be dramatic. But you just kind of wonder

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Speaker 1: where they are right now. They're certainly sort of slipping

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Speaker 1: as the Jaguars get better. But the and where's their

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Speaker 1: quarterback because he left the game. He came back, but

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Speaker 1: he hasn't been practicing this week. But the reality is

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Speaker 1: they're a dangerous type of team and when you've got

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Speaker 1: to beat him if that, if that happens, they're tough, tough,

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Speaker 1: that's the nature of the game. It'll be tough on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night in those weather conditions. But the Jaguars had

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Speaker 1: become tough minded since the beginning of November. You know

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Speaker 1: that swim things start to swing. Jags Board two in

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Speaker 1: the most critical stretch of an NFL season November into December.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if they can keep it going. For John

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Speaker 1: Ozier and Joe Fortunado and David Joe and Brett Reeber

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Speaker 1: and Brian Mary Krema because we want to talk to

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Speaker 1: anybody for the happy holidays and Mary Krema, Merry Christmas. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: have a wonderful rest of your day. An exciting day

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Speaker 1: tomorrow as we get ready for primetime football