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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Victor

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Speaker 1: trembanyama Palooza. It's the NBA Draft lottery tonight. Yeah, not

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Speaker 1: the draft, but to have the draft after tonight we

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Speaker 1: will know who is picking number one. Potentially the greatest

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Speaker 1: swing in like NBA franchise history since Lebron James was

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Speaker 1: coming out, and it was like, who's going to get

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Speaker 1: to pick Lebron James? I am Jack. That is Miles Gray.

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Speaker 1: Exciting times.

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Speaker 2: Uh woa, what do you think he's gonna have said?

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Speaker 1: This is the most highly anticipated player to ever enter

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Speaker 1: the NBA, maybe the greatest prospect in the history of

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Speaker 1: team sports. So kind of keeping things nice and measured,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, too much pressure.

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Speaker 3: And we haven't seen another person with his like physical

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Speaker 3: stature absolutely just get destroyed before the season even started

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Speaker 3: in chet Holm, greright last season. Yeah, yeah, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: mean it's exciting for sure. I think it's anticipated and

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Speaker 3: because he is like such an unknown quantity, like we're

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Speaker 3: just it's like it looks like the next evolution of

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Speaker 3: the game where you're like, wait, you can be this

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Speaker 3: big and do all this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think also Lebron has prepared people for

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Speaker 1: somebody who is this anticipated and then actually pays it off,

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Speaker 1: which is I think more of a miracle than people

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Speaker 1: actually realize the fact that he was able to do that.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of pressure, a lot of things can

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Speaker 1: go wrong, but Lebron James truly a genius. We will

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Speaker 1: see how the Lakers doing Game one tonight and the

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Speaker 1: time we will see who gets the number one pick

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Speaker 1: in the NBA draft. So now that we've gotten all

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Speaker 1: our non NBA listeners gone, we can finally talk about

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Speaker 1: the Zoon. I mean, yeah, that's what people really care about,

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Speaker 1: Microsoft's failed iPod competitor from years ago. The Zoon literally

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Speaker 1: is back in the news because it was a punchline.

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Speaker 1: Apparently at the end of Guardians of the Galaxy Volume two.

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Speaker 1: You know, after two films of Chris Pratt's character like

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Speaker 1: listening to a Walkman because he left Earth in the eighties,

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Speaker 1: he finally adapts to modern technology and adopts an MP

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Speaker 1: three player, but he gets a zooon. Miles Ah, hell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not a good one, dude, if you remember it,

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Speaker 3: Like early on in the show, we had one listener

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Speaker 3: who was listening.

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Speaker 2: To this show on the zone, right, Yeah, we Zoom God.

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Speaker 3: I know, I think you still listen, So shout out

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Speaker 3: to Zoom God because we could not believe. We're like,

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Speaker 3: and here are the devices one Zoom and you're like,

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Speaker 3: that's fucking dedication.

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Speaker 2: So you were ahead of the curve, Zoom God.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now they're coming back. Zoom actually makes an appearance

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Speaker 1: in volume three, which Microsoft and you're not gonna believe.

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Speaker 1: This has turned into a branding opportunity. So there are

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Speaker 1: two stunts the Microsoft is pulling. One is just giving

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Speaker 1: away a Zoom that they're like, hey, we found this

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Speaker 1: and storage that I found in my close. We truly

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Speaker 1: quote have no idea if it works, which I thought

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Speaker 1: that's whoever whoever they got doing marketing over there. They're

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Speaker 1: getting good, good job, easy there. And there was the

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Speaker 1: second thing, which was so the person who came up

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Speaker 1: with the we just found this in storage, don't know

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Speaker 1: if it still works, but we're gonna give it away.

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Speaker 1: That person's co worker got pissed and they were like,

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Speaker 1: that idea is too good and Chad is getting too

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Speaker 1: much damn attention, So I'm going to do a Zoom

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Speaker 1: centric product stunt. So my best guess as to how

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Speaker 1: this happened is they were like, all right, so what else?

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Speaker 1: What's what's a buzzy thing? We three D print a

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Speaker 1: zoom And people were like, uh, I mean that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you could do that. That idea kind of sucks and

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Speaker 1: they were like, even, well, what if we did it

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Speaker 1: in fucking space? Uh so you feel bad, Well you

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Speaker 1: at least have to be impressed by the amount of

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Speaker 1: So they're also three D printing a zoon on the

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Speaker 1: International Space Station. Baby, get the fuck out of here.

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Speaker 1: Give uh. It just like made me flash back to

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Speaker 1: like every Badge marketing meeting been.

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Speaker 2: What if like Lebron James did really.

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Speaker 1: Lebron James three D printed a zoom in space while

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Speaker 1: flossing and and listening.

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Speaker 3: To the New Ice Spice. Yes, oh you thought I

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Speaker 3: was feeling zoon That's what they should do. Wow. See

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Speaker 3: now now they got to get me back in the

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Speaker 3: marketing seat exactly.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, if you are starting to hear about zoom again

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Speaker 1: and don't know why, it's because somebody's spending a bunch

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Speaker 1: of marketing funny. Yeah, Martha Stewart speaking of things coming around. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue cover star at age eighty one

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Speaker 3: The hair, really, I'm saying, I'm saying the hair, Martha, Yes,

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Speaker 3: you're looking naughty with that hair.

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Speaker 2: It's wind swept.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what they're trying to do, but it's

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Speaker 3: definitely like they're making Yeah, this is It's very interesting.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, man, could you imagine if they had Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden do something like this, right, it's messy and you

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Speaker 3: compare the age. Oh but like with his old weird

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Speaker 3: hair plugs, that shit would look terrible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Could you imagine Look with Joe Biden's spider web hair.

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Speaker 1: Like chunks are missing. Yeah. Yeah, but the next Sports

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Speaker 1: this does seem to be a thing like as the

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Speaker 1: population gets older, and also the older population continues to

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Speaker 1: hoard their wealth from younger generations, marketers are going to

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Speaker 1: be taking note. And like, there's also an announcement that

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Speaker 1: the first senior citizen bachelor is in the works, So

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Speaker 1: I'm coming, Yeah, long time. I guess that that was

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Speaker 2: Long time coming is the sub subtitle of that's good good.

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Speaker 3: Anyway back to you, I got my Marketer hat on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what can I do? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean with the Bachelor, that's always been something

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Speaker 3: that you want to see because these are people who,

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Speaker 3: from social media. So it feels like I'm a bit

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Speaker 3: Martha who doing doing big things on that on that cover.

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Speaker 2: I wonder what Snoop has had to say about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure there will be a viral video where

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Speaker 1: Snoop interviews Martha Stewart about the swimsuit. All right. Ron Desantish,

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Speaker 1: speaking of the elderly Florida Governor Ron de Santis, yeah,

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Speaker 3: He said he was going to do stuff like that,

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Speaker 3: and people are like, you're the fucking governor of Florida,

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Speaker 3: and he's like, yeah, but I'm running for president, so

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Speaker 3: I got to put on my xenophobe pants and brits

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Speaker 3: and really get to crack in here. But yeah, they're

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Speaker 3: saying they're gonna send hundreds of state troopers, police and

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Speaker 3: the xenophobia of the you know that the migrants at

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Speaker 2: Keep that thing going up as title forty two is

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Speaker 2: said to expire. So yeah, he's he's he's going all in.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is not even like the one run

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Speaker 3: to saying there's another one about how like they're investigating

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Speaker 2: And now they're like, oh, what.

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Speaker 3: Do we say about It's it's a lot over there,

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Speaker 3: Like you couldn't we could do a whole you can

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Speaker 2: DeSantis's fuckery like on a daily basis. Now as the as.

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Speaker 1: He gets more desperate and like continues to have zero traction,

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Speaker 1: and people are like, yeah, no, he's not a serious option.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We talked about that from day one, Like

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Speaker 1: he he is Mike Pence light. He's like a thing

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Speaker 1: that the media fell in love with and that donors

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Speaker 1: these instances where he would meet with donors and then

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Speaker 1: the meeting was in, announced their full support for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like he's it's changing a lot. Yeah, it is,

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Speaker 3: just he does he doesn't work. I mean, his one

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Speaker 2: That's really his superpower.

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Speaker 3: And but at the end of the day, like I mean,

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Speaker 3: especially when you saw him completely like fumble with questions

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Speaker 3: even about his own history of being like a jag

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Speaker 3: at Guantanamo Bay, You're like, oh man, you're not You

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Speaker 3: ain't ready for prime time because you got to be

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Speaker 3: able to like look a journalist in the eye even

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Speaker 3: though you did war crimes and be like.

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Speaker 2: Oh did I I don't know, but that's an interesting notion.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for bringing that up. He was like, where

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Speaker 2: did you hear? That's a liar? You think he remembers me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy who told him, who promised him the

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Speaker 1: He that was tortured for years in no but yeah whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then it's a you know, as he continues to

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Speaker 1: be like less and less relevant in the presidential race,

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Speaker 1: then his ability to trigger libs becomes less and less,

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Speaker 2: It's he's in a.

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Speaker 3: Tough spiral promise too. Yeah, I mean, hit a way

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure he'll try increasing because it doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: chance and like announced No I wasn't. It was never

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Speaker 1: I'm happy with my job as Florida governor and just

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Speaker 1: but he hasn't done that. So I think we will

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Speaker 1: be seeing increasingly desperate swipes at relevance and at lib triggering.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't have like this kind of sense of

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Speaker 3: like that narcissism that makes you impervious to people making

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Speaker 3: already see if people like if he does a debate

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Speaker 3: and they're.

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Speaker 2: Like, let's talk about his boots.

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Speaker 3: Why he's always wearing such a thick heel, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: fucking lose it, And the next one he's like, I'd

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Speaker 3: actually like to speak about some of the smears that

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Speaker 3: are going around about my boot choices.

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Speaker 1: It's a normal sized heel.

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Speaker 3: Find a new angle, find a new angle, and then

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Speaker 3: Trump will call him puss in boots. You could it

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Speaker 3: already rights itself.

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Speaker 1: Man, Trump is actually gonna use that puts booty.

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Speaker 2: Where's Antonio Bendera's meet?

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Speaker 1: Run?

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Speaker 3: Oh, putting fingers run. We heard about you eat the

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Speaker 3: putting cup with your fingers.

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Speaker 1: Like I saw his response to it where he's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't even eat putting man. Too much sugar.

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Speaker 2: Someone said that on on like a plane.

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Speaker 3: They caught him like he would eat like snack packs,

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Speaker 3: but use his fingers.

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Speaker 1: Damn man, why even you just squeeze it into your

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Speaker 1: mouth like like like an adult.

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Speaker 3: Like you got to have adult old mouth, not big

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Speaker 3: enough to fucking house that thing in one go. Come on,

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Speaker 3: you ain't our president, motherfucker, get out of here.

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Speaker 1: That's right, all right, Let's take a quick break and

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Speaker 1: we'll be right back. And we're back. And reportedly miles

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Speaker 2: Know, you do better, evangelicals. Here you go.

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Speaker 3: Marketing tip for me, fucking try and be more inclusive.

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Speaker 1: This has been another edition of Miles's marketing tips. Yeah, Miles,

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Speaker 1: I want to get your marketing brain on this one.

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Speaker 3: I was just actually talking to Bob Pittman on Mathemagic

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Speaker 2: Man, I've got a lot of ideas. What do you got?

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Speaker 1: Costco has a cake business that they refuse to put online.

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Speaker 1: You can't call them. They have a box. You have

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Speaker 2: I think this is genius. I think this is great marketing.

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Speaker 3: It gets people talking, reminds you of the olden days

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Speaker 2: People got their cakes, you know.

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Speaker 3: But we need that confirmation email to fucking hit so

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Speaker 1: What is my human interaction going to be for the

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Speaker 1: A minus for marketing. This is an A.

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Speaker 3: Plus plus wow, because it's working on so many levels.

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Speaker 1: People are loving it, polytheism you know. Yeah, right.

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Speaker 3: Fit dissuades someone from buying a Costco sheet cake at

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Speaker 1: tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Go Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourself. Yep,

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