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Speaker 2: The World's a Vegeon podcast. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Let's

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Speaker 2: have Evan call in from the practice field and we'll

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Speaker 2: get a live report from the field onto the show.

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Speaker 2: But we'll need a theme song for that. I was

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Speaker 2: just Kevan bro I was calling in.

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Speaker 3: Evan's got a song. We don't need to do that.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I'm throwing it out there. Jill do

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Speaker 3: seven and TIMEA and now it's coming back from the

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Speaker 3: locker room. What happened in the locker room?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: Have you guys come out with your roster projections or

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Speaker 2: anything like that?

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Speaker 3: I mean we did, Evan did one a while ago.

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Speaker 5: Do you think we should do another one?

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Speaker 2: Probably?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Why, here's where Evan's wrong.

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Speaker 5: That's a colleague on colleague crime. That's all right.

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Speaker 2: Last year they do a sneak and I'd be so mad.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got second and one.

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Speaker 5: It's been mad for about fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: Has anyone had a floater in their eyes? Mine looks

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Speaker 2: like Andy right now. It's like looking at me. It's

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Speaker 2: not on your IYO, it's in your eye of floating.

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Speaker 2: You can't flush them out.

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Speaker 3: When I had floaters as a kid, my mom always

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Speaker 3: told me to flush him that.

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Speaker 2: That was no, no, that's not a floater. I thought.

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Speaker 5: This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website for

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium. It's cut down day around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots have already started that process, and we're going

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Speaker 2: to get into that. They played their last preseason game

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Speaker 2: against the Commanders, in which I think young Drake May

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Speaker 2: had a pretty good showing for himself, the best yet

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Speaker 2: so far, showing off what he possibly could do. And

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Speaker 2: of course the debate heats up of whether or not

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Speaker 2: he should start right off the bat, and of course

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Speaker 2: we'll get into all of that. It's Deuce, it's Evan,

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Speaker 2: it's Paul, it's myself, it's Matt and the booth, and

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Speaker 2: we're here for the next two hours talking about Patriots.

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Speaker 2: And there's a lot to talk about. Because I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bengals are around the corner a week from

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Speaker 2: this Sunday coming up, and.

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Speaker 6: He's like to beat, He's like giddy, yeah, excited we

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Speaker 6: were done with all that preseason.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I love we talked about that. I agree,

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a chance to catch your breath

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Speaker 3: here for a couple of days. I mean, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot going on today.

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Speaker 2: But everything is now looking forward to the regular season. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, well we.

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Speaker 3: Look a little back at training camp maybe and things

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Speaker 2: Fred, Fred, do that on your own. But most importantly,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about the news of the day, which is

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Speaker 2: cut down day. Patriots have already cut about seventeen guys,

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Speaker 2: well the unofficial by the way, yeah, okay, I should have.

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Speaker 3: You know some of them have been fourteen of them.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, correct, the ones we did. We did release

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Speaker 7: fourteen guys yesterday, so.

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Speaker 8: Reportedly about at about twenty five guys that have been reportedly.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the big news reportedly, I think it's Tom

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Speaker 9: Well, I still could.

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Speaker 8: I mean, that's one thing that does happen sometimes on

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Speaker 8: cutdown days. You put it out there, this guy is

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Speaker 2: Point because again these aren't official. Uh, it could be

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Speaker 7: So how about the fourteen that the Patriots did make official? Mic,

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Speaker 7: you have that list, like from oh the ones yesterday

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Speaker 3: You had to throw me a curveball.

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Speaker 5: I just have them all, So let's we'll skip those.

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Speaker 5: Evan's going to look up the release.

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Speaker 7: Why don't you start with some of the names that

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Speaker 3: Well, just starting with some of the big names. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think it's Harris is an official, right, No, if

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Speaker 2: he does get cut that to me, that's a mild surprise. Cut.

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Speaker 8: I would agree, yeah, mild surprise, yep, I would agree, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: I had him in, but.

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Speaker 7: Not biased on anything you did, just because I figured

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Speaker 7: they have to have some running backs on the team,

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Speaker 7: because you guys tell me that that's important. I do, no,

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Speaker 7: I agree, like for like four running backs to me

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Speaker 2: Even when they were less a running team, they've kept five.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the Cleveland kept three last year, and so that

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Speaker 9: But I was mildly surprised, like this.

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Speaker 5: Touchdown of the night we talked about in the postgame show, I.

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Speaker 2: Was a little burst, a little burst.

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Speaker 3: I think he got a lot of chances this summer.

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Speaker 2: And they cut Bishop Fenwick.

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Speaker 3: This, yeah to Shaun Fenwick, who was in and out.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, So Sam Roberts, Tucker Addington among those bang out.

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Speaker 8: So this is fourteen names. Tucker Addington, Kawan Baker, William

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Speaker 9: Yep, that was the official.

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Speaker 7: So those those fourteen were made official yet yesterday with

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Speaker 2: Really the only name there is Sam Roberts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, somebody's been around a little bit

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Speaker 5: So the one guy on that list that I was

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Speaker 7: I thought he showed some versatility. You know, maybe he's

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Speaker 7: The date early kind of tells me maybe not, but yeah,

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Speaker 7: I don't know. I thought he kind of flashed for

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he had one rush in the game on Sunday

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Speaker 3: And then as.

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Speaker 9: The game war on.

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Speaker 2: So now do you want to get into the just reports.

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Speaker 3: sign for Jahem Bell, who rookie, you know, seventh round pick.

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Speaker 3: On he can move. I'm intrigued by him. I mean

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Speaker 3: Thought he was somebody who just didn't get a lot

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Speaker 3: him pop at all once, ye, jeremiahpoint.

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Speaker 2: No, I wasn't on the postgame show, as you.

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Speaker 5: Know, because that was Yes, we had a strong show.

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Speaker 5: Did Ellis make your Christian Ellis?

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Speaker 3: Did he make your list of a coin flip on

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Speaker 5: On the Goods.

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Speaker 7: The Goods he was I think he did because I

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Speaker 2: Now he went off with a head injury, right and

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Speaker 2: So could that help him actually stay on the team.

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Speaker 7: Like there's still special teams to worry about. Maybe they

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Speaker 7: won't have as many guys that aren't involved. But Brandon's

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Speaker 3: I think we went with Joel's Harris on that one.

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Speaker 7: Paul kind of a point flipped there and just like

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Speaker 7: we were listening to the open Evan, you know, full disclosure,

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Speaker 3: like mock drafts, and like, I'm a mock draft guy,

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Speaker 8: Ten roster projections are the mock drafts of training camp.

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Speaker 8: There's nothing that clicks more than an fifty three yeard.

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Speaker 5: And that was my point, not I hate content.

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Speaker 2: By the way, and now you get into fantasy football.

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Speaker 5: Thanks to your your finger wagging of me. I got

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Speaker 5: oh Shane Zimminis.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 5: It was the only guy that I forgotten.

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Speaker 7: And I texted Mike and I said, listen, I only

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Speaker 7: have fifty one guys.

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Speaker 5: I know this.

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Speaker 7: Somebody obvious that I'm missing, And evidently there wasn't anybody

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Speaker 2: I think he's got some potential.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: We we had some conversations in the press box before

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Speaker 8: that's been the last couple of years. Last year in

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Speaker 8: Tennessee was pretty small.

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Speaker 2: Great. I saw most of the game, but some of

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Speaker 2: it was blocked out by this it person who decided

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Purpose No, I think somebody else grunted and she realized, oh, oh,

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Speaker 3: How long did they go for it before?

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Speaker 2: Minutes?

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Speaker 5: Now? If they changed that press box, I haven't been

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Speaker 5: there all. No, it's terrible. Is it still the one

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Speaker 5: that's low and in the corners. Yes, that's tough.

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Speaker 2: That's a tough it's a very you can you have

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Speaker 5: Yeah, tough.

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Speaker 2: So even and all their stats crew was right in

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Speaker 2: our press box, you only hear them. You don't see them,

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Speaker 2: and you only hear them when they put the speaker on.

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Speaker 2: These people right next to us, and it's constant blah

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Speaker 5: That's probably a tough place to do stats from.

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Speaker 2: They didn't even know, They had no idea how long.

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Speaker 2: They had no idea how long that final field goal

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: is it really hectic in here tonight? It was just

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Speaker 9: Trying to watch the game.

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Speaker 2: Is a working environment?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we all settle down.

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Speaker 2: They have a candy bar, No, but they had hot

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Speaker 3: That's the way you got hot dogs in the press box. Threads.

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Speaker 2: That should be mandatory. Every press box should have hot dogs.

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Speaker 5: Glizzies.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't care what brand, but just just

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Speaker 5: Dogs, popcorn, popcorn, popcorn.

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Speaker 2: You like the popcorn, you teeth.

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Speaker 3: I'm lucky to have to write during because if I

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Speaker 5: You're a big sour patch kid.

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Speaker 2: Watermelons, that's that's not good for your teeth.

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Speaker 3: I don't do them that much, but I don't worry

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Speaker 3: nowhere candies cut three years. I got a cleaning yesterday,

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Speaker 3: But I got the bag with the mini you know,

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Speaker 2: Toothbrush, travel gear, travel travel floss. Okay, so back to football.

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Speaker 3: So we've got the yeah, Born and Strange pup are

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, those those are not Taki Taki, not taki

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Speaker 3: And he was running a little bit on that lower field.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it means, but yeah, maybe.

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Speaker 5: Henning Born ran a marathon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I would just say too with like

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Speaker 7: I mean McMillan's a little bigger and more of the

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Speaker 3: I just don't know how.

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Speaker 5: It's like more of a pass game kind of together.

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Speaker 2: So with the if you add up, if the reports

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Speaker 2: about six more guys to.

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Speaker 9: Go now we're at sixty five.

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Speaker 2: We're at sixty five now, Yeah, okay, so we've got

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Speaker 8: Yes, I mean some of them, Like I said earlier,

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Speaker 3: You know, del Pettis and Jotham Russell are the only

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Speaker 7: I think del Pettis if like Josh Bledsoe was one

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Speaker 7: of the guys that's reportedly gone, I think that could

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jathan Russell. I think does he stay on the

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Speaker 9: He's a seventeenth practice squad guy.

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Speaker 5: Right for no apparent reason.

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Speaker 7: No, no penalty, It doesn't pass away play, he doesn't count.

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Speaker 2: So why do you think that there are some players

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Speaker 8: Well, the guys that they announced yesterday, I would assume

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Speaker 8: we're not close to making the roster, and you put

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like all the cornerbacks, you know, that whole group

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Speaker 3: those guys still seem to be around. I think that's

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Speaker 7: It's a good question, though, Fred, and I don't I

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Speaker 7: maybe they're just I mean getting final evaluations from a healthstap,

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Speaker 7: you know, like however.

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Speaker 2: Came announcing like veterans are like just as a you know,

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Speaker 5: It matter practicing today?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 7: No, So that's the only thing that ever comes into

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Speaker 7: my mind is when you know a guy is gonna

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Speaker 7: coming back from Washington's you know, early morning hours Monday,

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Speaker 7: they haven't practiced, they're not they I don't know why

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Speaker 7: you would release fourteen guys yesterday and not just you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there will be more guys released today and they'll

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Speaker 3: Do you remember last year even do we get the

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Speaker 3: day file to the league.

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Speaker 5: League.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we'll see what time we get the press release, the.

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Speaker 2: Whole New World.

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Speaker 7: I don't know about the press release, but we'll know

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Speaker 7: four o'clock, the Whole New World.

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Speaker 9: That's what they keep saying.

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Speaker 2: We'll see Yeah, okay uh. And then, of course the

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Speaker 2: the quarterback position. And I think if you watch the game,

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Speaker 2: You know, the athletic ability that no other quarterback on

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Speaker 2: There's no one better on this roster right now than

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Speaker 2: Drake May. But you know there are other factors that

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Speaker 2: doesn't start. But as anybody here's opinions changed since the

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Speaker 7: No, I still think that May should start week one,

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Speaker 7: just like I did when they drafted them in April.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, play May.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I still go back to your argument last Thursday, Deuce,

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Speaker 2: And in case anybody wasn't watching It made a lot

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Speaker 2: nobody knows what this offense is going to look like. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, when the season starts, nobody knows. And is

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Speaker 2: it a good idea to see what the offense looks

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Speaker 2: like first before you insert Drake May into it? So

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Speaker 2: at least you have a bar. Okay, here's what the

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Speaker 3: That's where I'm still at. Fred. I mean, I'll diverge

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Speaker 3: start him next week. I don't need to start him

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Speaker 3: Jacobe go out there. I want to see what the

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Speaker 3: I want to get him in this year. But I

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Speaker 2: But like what you just said, let's see what the

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Speaker 2: problems are you know if you put may if may starts,

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Speaker 2: is he part of the problem or is he not

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Speaker 2: part of the problem. You don't know because you don't

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Speaker 2: know what it looked like without him. So to me,

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Speaker 2: that's the only kind of argument that makes any type

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Speaker 7: Well, what if he's not ready mentally? Like what if

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Speaker 7: he doesn't know the offense?

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Speaker 2: But I think the coaches would know that.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, well, but.

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Speaker 7: That's an argument to not stot them, right. I don't

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Speaker 7: know the like, I'm not saying that, I don't know

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Speaker 7: the answer to that. I'm just saying, yeah, that's not

445
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Speaker 7: the only reason Mayo wouldn't start them.

446
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Speaker 2: If I think that's a given. I think that's a given.

447
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,800
Speaker 2: If may isn't mentally ready, then he shouldn't.

448
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Speaker 5: Start, right.

449
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Speaker 7: But I think that people sort of watch the preseason

450
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,720
Speaker 7: games and they say, well, he's ready, Like, how do

451
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,120
Speaker 7: you It's just not about skills, no, Like, again, we're

452
00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 7: going to go back to April. We knew that he

453
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Speaker 7: had more skill than Jacobe Brisstt.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're not scheming in these preseason games.

455
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 2: You're playing against second and third uh, you know, guys

456
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,160
Speaker 2: on the depth chart, so you don't know. You really

457
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 2: don't know. He's not running really the offense yet, so

458
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 2: you you know, mentally, it's hard for us to judge. Now,

459
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 2: the coaches know because they they know what's supposed to

460
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 2: be happening in practice. They know how he is in

461
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 2: the film room, so the page, the coaches have a

462
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Speaker 2: good idea of whether or not he's mentally ready.

463
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I can't speak to the practice piece of it

464
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,679
Speaker 8: as much because we don't watch the film of practice.

465
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Speaker 2: We don't know, we don't know what we're looking at.

466
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Speaker 8: Well, I wouldn't say that. I just would say that

467
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Speaker 8: we don't have the.

468
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Speaker 2: Film a practice.

469
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Speaker 5: I would I would say that.

470
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Speaker 8: No, I'm just saying I would say that about any

471
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Speaker 8: of us, Like we've all watched plenty of practice over

472
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Speaker 8: the years to know what it looks like on a

473
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Speaker 8: football field and whether or not it's working or not,

474
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Speaker 8: Like we.

475
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Speaker 2: Know what it's working. But again, this is the whole

476
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Speaker 2: PFF argument of of how they grade things. They don't like.

477
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Speaker 2: You look at a blocking uh you know, the offensive line,

478
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Speaker 2: and you see the tackle make a big mistake. Well,

479
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 2: you don't know if it was because there was bad

480
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 2: communication with the guard or if the tackle was just

481
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 2: you know, just got beaten. That's you know, that happen.

482
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Speaker 2: It's more than you think.

483
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Speaker 8: Maybe I just feel like, you know, Paul has been

484
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Speaker 8: watching training camp practices. Not to make you feel old, Paul,

485
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 8: but for twenty years. Like I think Paul has an

486
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Speaker 8: eye for the game.

487
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Speaker 2: And I think we all do, yeah in that respect,

488
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Speaker 2: but you know, we don't know what play they're actually

489
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Speaker 2: running and how it you know, if the quarterbacks saw

490
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: it the way it's supposed to be seen. That again,

491
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Speaker 2: that happens more often than you think. And you know,

492
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Speaker 2: you get back to the film room and what we

493
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Speaker 2: thought was the problem on the play really wasn't.

494
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Speaker 6: You know.

495
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that definitely happens during games, and you know, you

496
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Speaker 8: watch it live and you think one thing and you

497
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Speaker 8: go back and watch it. I this, they're in a

498
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Speaker 8: really tough spot. Like they're in a pickle right now

499
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 8: at this quarterback situation because he's the best quarterback on

500
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Speaker 8: the team, like Drake's the best quarterback on the team.

501
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Speaker 8: He's ready to play. Oh yeah, they're not ready for him,

502
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Speaker 8: you know. And to douce his point, if you give

503
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Speaker 8: it a month, does the offensive line kind of declare

504
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Speaker 8: itself and maybe settle down a little bit. Do you

505
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 8: understand what you're good at and what you're not good at,

506
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 8: and how you're going to move the ball offensively, and

507
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 8: then you put the better quarterback in and then it

508
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Speaker 8: elevates it even a little.

509
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Speaker 9: Bit more from where it was with Jacobi brissaid.

510
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Speaker 8: If they were in a situation, you know, let's just

511
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Speaker 8: use Chicago as an example, with Keenan Allen and DJ

512
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Speaker 8: Moore and Real madoone, say Cole Comet, there would be

513
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Speaker 8: no question in anybody's mind who was starting Week one

514
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Speaker 8: for the Patriots.

515
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Speaker 2: Because there's no question on anyone's mind what the offense is.

516
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Speaker 9: You know what I mean, Well, he just has more

517
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Speaker 9: talent around him, That's.

518
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Speaker 2: What I mean. Like you're you're sure of what's around

519
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Speaker 2: him right now. We don't know how these guys are

520
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 2: going to perform. I don't know how Poke is going

521
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Speaker 2: to be, and.

522
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Speaker 7: I just don't like that as a reason, Like if

523
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Speaker 7: he's not ready, then that's the only reason why I

524
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Speaker 7: would say he shouldn't play. If they If Gerard Mayo

525
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Speaker 7: thinks he needs more time to develop to sort of understand,

526
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Speaker 7: you know what game plans are going to be and

527
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Speaker 7: all that stuff, then I can I can accept it.

528
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Speaker 5: Otherwise I'm with Evan, like, yeah, I just.

529
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Speaker 9: All that stuff to me.

530
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Speaker 8: But it's in the same bucket of like is it

531
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Speaker 8: just better to just be patient and just let him

532
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Speaker 8: go through the motions of watching Jacob Prisett prepare for

533
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Speaker 8: a game and watching how he handles game day and

534
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 8: all these different little things. And then on top of that,

535
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Speaker 8: now you get AVP gets his feet wet, puck calling plays,

536
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 8: and the offensive line maybe comes together a little bit better,

537
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Speaker 8: and you just sort of, let's say, a month from now,

538
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Speaker 8: have a better idea of what your strengths and weaknesses

539
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Speaker 8: are as an offense. That if you go in there

540
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Speaker 8: and you put Drake May in week one, then he's

541
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Speaker 8: now the crash test on me. Like, let Jacoby Brissett

542
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Speaker 8: kind of do that sort of thing. Not that I

543
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Speaker 8: want him to get hurt, but like, let him sort

544
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Speaker 8: of go through those growing pains with the offense. That

545
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Speaker 8: there is a good argument for that, but I think

546
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Speaker 8: it's disappointing that they've put themselves in this position, that

547
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 8: the offensive line is in such a current disarray that

548
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Speaker 8: their best quarterback is.

549
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Speaker 9: Not going to be playing.

550
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and now you have to go in there and

551
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 8: you have to look at the defense and Jabrill Peppers

552
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 8: and Kyle Dugger and Devon Godshaw and all the Kean

553
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Speaker 8: White and say to them, sorry, but we can't throw

554
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Speaker 8: Drake to the Wolves. He's twenty one years old. He's

555
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Speaker 8: you know, we're not gonna do that. And they're gonna

556
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Speaker 8: go on the other side of the ball and they're

557
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 8: gonna be like, well, we got Burrow and Jamar Chase

558
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Speaker 8: in week one and we're gonna have our hands full

559
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Speaker 8: and we can't score on offense like that. That's not

560
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Speaker 8: a great feeling.

561
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I would also just point out that

562
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Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett has started games against Cincinnati. He's familiar with

563
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Speaker 3: what they do. He's beaten that team before. I'm just

564
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Speaker 3: saying to Paul, two of the last three times Cleveland

565
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 3: has played Cincinnati, they've run the ball forty times. So

566
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Speaker 3: to me, that sounds like a conservative. Hey, Jacobe, go

567
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Speaker 3: out there and hand it off a bunch. And I'd

568
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Speaker 3: also say week two, you've got Mike McDonald, who is

569
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Speaker 3: arguably the hottest young defensive coordinator who is going to

570
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Speaker 3: put Drake may in a literal blender out there. So

571
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Speaker 3: if you want to throw him out there against that,

572
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Speaker 3: you know, I get it, Like I'm gonna be kind

573
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Speaker 3: of like, God, we got to watch Brissette, Like, I'm

574
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Speaker 3: with you, guys, But I do think that that's part

575
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Speaker 3: of it too. The teams that he's specifically going to

576
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Speaker 3: be going up against. Is he going to even have

577
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 3: a chance out there?

578
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 5: You know?

579
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Speaker 3: And is it or is it gonna be he's gonna

580
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: have guys falling around his legs and he's gonna have

581
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Speaker 3: to run and throw like let you Kobe deal with

582
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Speaker 3: it first couple of weeks.

583
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Speaker 2: No, it's it's not a it's a fair argument because

584
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: you have no idea how this offensive line is going

585
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: to be.

586
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Speaker 3: I just think Paul's thing is ultimately true, though he's

587
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 3: not ready yet. He doesn't know. I'm not I'm not

588
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 3: saying no, but I think that I'm not saying that's

589
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying at your point that he's like, it's

590
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Speaker 3: more it's not any of the stuff. It's that it's.

591
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Speaker 7: Because a couple of people have like snapped back and

592
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 7: me like, you know, well, Paul says he's not ready,

593
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Speaker 7: So he can't play.

594
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm not saying you're not. I just think

595
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Speaker 3: that's what the reason I'm not gonna says get You're

596
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 3: gonna have Mike McDonald out there throwing all these crazy

597
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 3: who's coming, Who's going? And Drake May is going to

598
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Speaker 3: be like, oh my god, I hadn't.

599
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Speaker 5: Seen you know.

600
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Speaker 3: I just I like him.

601
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Speaker 7: It's gonna what's like a rookie quarterback, It's going to

602
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Speaker 7: be that you're in a blender. Like that's that's a given.

603
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Speaker 7: I just if he is, if he's done everything that

604
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Speaker 7: they wanted him to do and he's ready to go, Like,

605
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 7: at some point he's going to be in the blender,

606
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Speaker 7: I don't care if it's in week six, week eight,

607
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 7: week one. Like I want the blender part to be

608
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Speaker 7: over with as quickly as we can, as long as

609
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Speaker 7: he's ready to go.

610
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Speaker 5: If he's not, then I'm okay with the patient approach. Yeah,

611
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 5: like the whole like what do you guys think?

612
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Speaker 2: You know?

613
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 5: The offensive line?

614
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Speaker 7: Obviously they had a lot of issues the other night

615
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 7: with alignment with penalties and whatnot, but a lot of

616
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 7: people have sort of looked at it and said, and

617
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Speaker 7: I haven't seen what you've had to say about your

618
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 7: film review, but like it was pretty good, like otherwise,

619
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Speaker 7: like a WHENU was openly defiant after the game. You know,

620
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 7: Mayo was saying they were in the backfield, and when

621
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Speaker 7: you're saying, no, we were fine, like that worries me too.

622
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Speaker 7: I didn't think it was fine.

623
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Speaker 5: I thought may looked like he was sort of making

624
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Speaker 5: a lot of plays on his own, a lot.

625
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Speaker 2: Of plays on his own, and also a lot of

626
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: plays with people all over him. Yeah, to the point

627
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Speaker 2: where he didn't have room to follow through, which I

628
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: was worried about him hurting it.

629
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Speaker 5: And it's a really short amount of time that he played.

630
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 5: And you know, like I just my impression. I didn't

631
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Speaker 5: think it was great.

632
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: No, My impression in what we saw a little bit

633
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: on social media yesterday was that you can highlight individual

634
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: plays along the offensive line that we're promising, but as

635
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: together as a whole, working as a unit, it was

636
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: a mess.

637
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 7: The only thing I could say on a positive side

638
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 7: is how much better will it look when David Andrews

639
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 7: is in there? And I think there's something to be

640
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 7: said for that, Like it's an important position. Van Pelt

641
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 7: says that in particular for that offense. The center does

642
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 7: a lot, and he's a big upgrade, you know, no

643
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 7: offense to Nick Leverrett. He's really not a center. So

644
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 7: I think that's a big difference. But I didn't like

645
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 7: what I saw individually for most of those guys, and

646
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Speaker 7: I don't know if that's the reason why you're not

647
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 7: playing him. I don't really like it because I think

648
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 7: you can you can learn from that. I think you

649
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 7: can get some benefit from playing if he's ready to play.

650
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 7: That's always my caveat.

651
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I'm not going to sit here and say

652
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 8: the offense the line was good the other night, because

653
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna lie to people and say that the

654
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 8: penalties were absolutely inexcusable. That being said that when you

655
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 8: watch the film back in the first half, that it

656
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 8: wasn't as bad as it ran the ball watching live,

657
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 8: they only allowed seven pressures on twenty seven twenty six dropbacks.

658
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 8: It's about twenty seven percent, which is pretty good. You know,

659
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Speaker 8: thirty percent is anything below thirty is good. Anything over

660
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Speaker 8: thirty you're starting to get into danger zone. So twenty

661
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 8: seven percent is not bad. I know it's against backups

662
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 8: and all that, but when you actually watch when they

663
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 8: weren't aligned improperly and getting flagged left and the right,

664
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 8: and you just actually snapped the ball and had the

665
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 8: play go off. They actually did an okay job, and really,

666
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 8: to me, the one guy who just was dreadful was

667
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 8: Chokes And if you take him, he had four penalties

668
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 8: and he had three of the seven quarterback pressures allowed.

669
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 8: So half of the all the issues with the offensive

670
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 8: line was one guy.

671
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: What do you think why do you think he kept

672
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: lining up that way because he's cheating? No, I know

673
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: why he's like, but why again and again and again

674
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: and again.

675
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, look a lot of linemen, you know,

676
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 8: Juwan Taylor with the Chiefs is kind of the reason

677
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 8: why this is even a story.

678
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 9: Uh, he did it a lot last year.

679
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 8: It was they were a lot of games on national

680
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 8: TV for Kansas City, and like we know around here,

681
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 8: when the when that spotlight's on you, it becomes a thing.

682
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: Right.

683
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 8: It's kind of like the Patriots, you know, being physical

684
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 8: with the cults receivers and then all of a sudden

685
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 8: it's an emphasis that we're not going to allow contact

686
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 8: down the field.

687
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 9: So he they.

688
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 8: It seems like a lot of linemen try to cheat

689
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 8: that just a little bit and get away with it.

690
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 8: They also try to cheat the snap and get away

691
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 8: with it too, And it's just a matter of do

692
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 8: you have a crew that's being strict about it and

693
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 8: how much are you after does it?

694
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: Once? You know, in a particular guy like I, I understand,

695
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to test this ref I'm gonna see what

696
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: my limits are. But after you realize, okay, he's gonna

697
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: call me, why did he keep doing?

698
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: That's what Reese asked Mayo yesterday. I mean, that's what

699
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: Reese was trying to get out, Like what And I mean,

700
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: I just go back to the summer in training camp.

701
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: He was one of the main offenders of all the

702
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: false starts, the rehuddles. This is I don't have a

703
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: lot of confidence in its seven right now. I'm adding

704
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: him to my list of the surprise candidates.

705
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, for that reason.

706
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 8: Well, I it the thought crossed my mind watching it

707
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 8: back yesterday that he might be trying to get him

708
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 8: his way out of town. Maybe he's not happy about

709
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 8: the flip flopping of left and right and you know,

710
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 8: basically paying him nothing to be a starting left tackle

711
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 8: and those types of things.

712
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 9: Maybe that.

713
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 8: You know, Trent Brown went through that with the with

714
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 8: the team too, when they paid him like a right

715
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 8: tackle and then we're playing him at left. I don't

716
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 8: that's purely speculative.

717
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 9: But you lie.

718
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 8: You got called for four penalties in one half. You're

719
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 8: aligning incorrectly, You're giving up pressure left and right.

720
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 9: Like it just the effort was He's not about repeater.

721
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 5: I mean, that is the effort part is why I

722
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 5: was thinking, Yeah, the.

723
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: Ever repeater thing, Like I'm like, they would have old

724
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: Rashime would have pulled that guy out of the game.

725
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 7: I feel like, well, and then you know, like I

726
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 7: do agree that there are times where you know, the

727
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 7: league looks at and says, you know, we have some

728
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 7: things that we want to emphasize, and it's a national

729
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 7: TV game.

730
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 5: Good, good time to do it right. Why was it

731
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 5: only on one team?

732
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

733
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, because there was only one team doing it right right?

734
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 7: You know, like this whole notion it was like a

735
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 7: flag happy ref which by the way, Sean Hockily only

736
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 7: did the first half. He didn't do the whole game,

737
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 7: and there were plenty of flags in the second half too.

738
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: What do we got, Chad Roland, Yeah, Joey Chad, that's

739
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: a big one. Adam Schefter.

740
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: So Joey Sly wins the kicking competition.

741
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 5: I just think that was where it was trending. Yeah,

742
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 5: Sly was was better, especially late.

743
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 7: I think you know, when you could perceive that as

744
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 7: when it got sort of important, when you know it's

745
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 7: really down to the pressure rises.

746
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,239
Speaker 5: I think the last two practices, Ryland was like one

747
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 5: for four at the end of practice.

748
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely had one was four for four, one for four.

749
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was much better for Sly forty five plus two,

750
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 8: and I feel like that's really what separates kickers. Like

751
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 8: every kicker in the NFL, for the most part, is

752
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 8: pretty good from forty and in it's you know, the

753
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 8: distance kicks, and Joey's Sly was much more accurate from

754
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 8: forty five plus.

755
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 7: So, I mean there's some resolution there. That's probably not

756
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 7: what they wanted. They probably wanted Ryland to win that

757
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 7: job as a fourth round pick and whatnot, But I

758
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 7: think Sly was better.

759
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, competition.

760
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Well there's a little breaking news, not official though,

761
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: right official Adam Schefter though Adam Schefter, yeahah Shifter is

762
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: usually reliable source.

763
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 7: So the you know, like just that whole thing with

764
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 7: the with the flags. Yeah, I do think that all

765
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 7: those things are probably accurate. I just don't think it

766
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 7: explains it. And to me, the bigger thing is twofold one.

767
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 7: It's the shots that we're seeing of Scott Peters and

768
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 7: Mayo specifically sort of hammering them on the sideline to

769
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 7: line up properly and then then going back out and

770
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 7: doing it again. And it was a win you too,

771
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 7: by the way, it wasn't just a core for and

772
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 7: you know that the second part of that is sort

773
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 7: of Mayo talking in post games saying, you know, we're

774
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 7: looking at the pitchers and they were in the backfield,

775
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 7: and when you're saying they be they were being picky,

776
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 7: you know, for lack of a better I'm paraphrasing, but

777
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 7: when you was basically telling you it wasn't that big

778
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 7: a deal, like that worries me. Like that's like that's

779
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 7: coaching and obviously they're not necessarily looking at it. And

780
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 7: like when Evan says something like chokes kind of has

781
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 7: the look of a guy who might not be happy

782
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 7: and he might be trying to make a send a message.

783
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 7: I don't dismiss that I think that's possible.

784
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he at this point, everybody's healthy on

785
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 8: the line, assuming everybody's healthy on the line, but Darien

786
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 8: Low's a better left tackle than Chuokes's like Vadariu and

787
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 8: LS should be starting against the Bengals if he's healthy. A.

788
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 7: I would think that that's why he sat out the

789
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 7: other night, because there was a couple of reports that

790
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 7: indicated that was minor and he could go, and they

791
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 7: chose to sit him.

792
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 5: I would be surprised if he didn't start.

793
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, at this point, I feel like you score for

794
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 8: us on the bench, like I I you know, I'm

795
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 8: assuming when who's going to play right tackle? And Vederianos

796
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 8: should play left?

797
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 5: So that's too bad. Here's a couple of things though.

798
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 7: We should keep talking about the offensive line, because so

799
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 7: you would keep Laydon Robinson at right guard because I

800
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 7: didn't like that the other night either.

801
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 8: Oh, I thought he was much better on the film,

802
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 8: Like a couple of penalties, like he's he's a rookies

803
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 8: were going to be on a roller cars.

804
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 7: I'm I'm not just worried about the penalties as I

805
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 7: am getting pushed around, but I also am very worried

806
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 7: and I said this in the post game about City.

807
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 7: So that game, those like I don't want to say

808
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 7: non contact because obviously he's blocking, so this contact, but

809
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 7: there was nothing apparent that happened, like he didn't right, Yeah,

810
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 7: they listed at his ankle, he didn't turn it. We

811
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 7: watched the replay several times.

812
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, could ankle.

813
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 5: He's in a boot at.

814
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 7: The end of by by all reports, did you see

815
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 7: him Yeah, yeah, I'm just I'm not telling you that

816
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 7: it is that. I'm telling you on worried that that's

817
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 7: a significant injury. And that's yeah, I think not good

818
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 7: for a team that wants to be strong on the interior.

819
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: I just say Brandon Thorne had a nice cut up

820
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 3: of Laydon Robinson. I mean, I was with you watching.

821
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 3: He had a good He was very high on Laydon

822
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: Robinson and put together a loss.

823
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 5: Like I guess, I just don't know anything about football.

824
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 5: Because the guy was in the backfield the whole game.

825
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: I felt the same way you felt, just and I

826
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: like the guy.

827
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 5: I think he's made a push. I'm just gonna get we.

828
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: Haven't really talked about Wallace.

829
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 3: I thought he was actually okay too.

830
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 8: Yes, I thought he was Okay, he was Caden Wallace

831
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 8: in the second half of this game was really good.

832
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

833
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 8: I would say probably his best film of the preseason

834
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 8: so far. Now, I mean he's going up against guys

835
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 8: that are gonna get cut by Washington most likely, so

836
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 8: with that being considered, but I thought he was really

837
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 8: good in this game. Really made some really good blocks

838
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 8: in their outside zone schemes. Had one awesome block. I

839
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 8: had posted it on my Twitter and on our side zone.

840
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 8: That's really good. I do wonder if there's a world

841
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 8: where if this is an injury to City that he's

842
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 8: going to miss some time. Caden at right on WHENU

843
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 8: andrews Leyden Robinson Viderium play left.

844
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: Has he played left at all?

845
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 9: He can play some left. I think he played left

846
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 9: in college. You know that that might be He was

847
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 9: that left.

848
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 5: Guard a lot in practice because he was replacing.

849
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 8: So yeah, yeah, that might be their their best five

850
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 8: right now. And it also gets those two rookies out there,

851
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 8: So there's some upside if those guys work out some

852
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 8: of these issues.

853
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 7: That would be my upside if you can get Robinson

854
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 7: and Wallace in the starting line up. We talked about

855
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 7: that in the post game show too. Then you draft

856
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 7: a left tackle and suddenly, like not not just playing,

857
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 7: I'm talking about did good did they belong in the

858
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 7: starting lineup? Not just well, you know, we don't have

859
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 7: anything else we're going to start. You know, if those

860
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 7: two guys are good starters by the end of the year,

861
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 7: and then you draft a left tackle, all of a

862
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 7: sudden you get an offensive line cold strange comes.

863
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: Back, so that you talk about, but I'm talking about

864
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: week one sychastic. If I'm a defensive coordinator playing the

865
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: Patriots early this season, I'm licking my jobs. I'm gonna

866
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: test that.

867
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 3: I said it this morning. I knew exactly Rush three.

868
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 5: Blitz all year.

869
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 7: I just let them go after him and just cover. Well,

870
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 7: see see what they got. Make the quarterback hold the

871
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 7: ball and you're going to get there.

872
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: Now, if you're the Patriots, you know that we're going

873
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: to get tested. However it is we're going to get tested.

874
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: Does the importance of that fifth, that extra alignement coming

875
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: in or an extra tight end being kept in, like

876
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: how often Wallace? How often are you going to have

877
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: to go into max protect to start this season? And

878
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: does that limit your offense?

879
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 3: Especially without any tight ends?

880
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 8: Who are really Plus I'm not a big fan of

881
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 8: six offensive lineman unless it's short yardage. I just it

882
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 8: makes it much more difficult when you only send four

883
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 8: guys into the pattern to space the field. Like now

884
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 8: you are telling the defense that you're only going to

885
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 8: have four receivers out in the pattern, and I just

886
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 8: am not a.

887
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 9: Huge fan of that.

888
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 8: But they could easily and you know, they'll move the

889
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 8: pocket and they'll do some of those bootlegs and things

890
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 8: like that too, So they could easily have some six

891
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 8: seven man protect off play action where they're only sending

892
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 8: two or three guys. But that that's scheming it up.

893
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 8: You know, you're dressing it up now at this point.

894
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 8: So I mean, it's possible that they could do some

895
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 8: some of that kind of stuff. That's sort of where

896
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 8: I've been at with Drake May is that you know,

897
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 8: he is athletic and he can move in the pocket,

898
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 8: and you can move outside the pocket, and you can

899
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 8: move the pocket and schematically and all that kind of stuff.

900
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 3: Another one David Wallace, Fred, Sorry, that's Dug Kyde reporting

901
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: David David, not the one from the office.

902
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 5: Who's receiver who reported that, Uh, Dougie Doug Kayde Dougie.

903
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 3: Doug Yeah, and Chris Price also confirmed. Chad Ryland league

904
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: source now just just confirmed.

905
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: He can confirm.

906
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 7: I love the I love the confirmations. Don't ever change boys. Yeah,

907
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 7: the I agree with Evans's point on the like if

908
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 7: you're in like if you want to keep a tight

909
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 7: end into block, that's okay, because that's not telling the

910
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 7: defense that you're only like if you have a tackle

911
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 7: on third and eleven and you have like an extra

912
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 7: tackle as the six offensive lineman, you're telling the defense

913
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 7: that the max protecting you, right.

914
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 3: Like unless it's like a game like twenty fourteen against

915
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 3: the Colts where you're just like we're gonna put six

916
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 3: off and you can't stop us, like you just you can't.

917
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 5: Oh you're running the book.

918
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like no, no, I'm talking about like third and

919
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 7: eleven you got to throw and you're telling the defense

920
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 7: we're only going to use five receivers four receivers here now?

921
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

922
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, no it.

923
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 8: I when I wrote it in after further review, I said, like,

924
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 8: how is the play, missus Lincoln when you take the

925
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 8: when you take the penalties out, It was fine, right,

926
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 8: you know, it's it's one of those situations. But I

927
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 8: actually thought, I don't even know what the right word is, Like,

928
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 8: I guess I was like pleasantly surprised that it wasn't

929
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 8: as much of a train wreck as I thought watching live.

930
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 7: And that's why I keep talking about David Andrews, because

931
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 7: I thought Leverett really was getting pushed in the backfield too.

932
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: His snaps are bad.

933
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think some of that's on Drake.

934
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

935
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 2: I look at the ball.

936
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 8: It's like floating like a knuckle The shotgun snap was

937
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 8: was not the center stuff.

938
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 7: Is It was a low snap. The snap that that

939
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 7: May bobbled was on May. The ball they showed the replay,

940
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 7: it definitely came when he was under center.

941
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just talking about one.

942
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 5: But that's not ideal. But yeah, May, I thought May

943
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 5: rightly called himself out.

944
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: On his snaps are slow with and they're they're like knuckleballs.

945
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, he's it's a problem.

946
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 8: But David Andrews will problem, will make it better. And

947
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 8: the sack on Brissett, to me, was uh schematic more

948
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 8: than anything. I didn't love the play call into the

949
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 8: front that the defense was running because they had a

950
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 8: player right over Laden Robinson, uh, you know, in the

951
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 8: in the B gap or and then they had a

952
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 8: defensive end with his hand in the dirt. That was

953
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 8: the unblocked rusher. Like if you're gonna leave a guy

954
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 8: on blocked, usually it's like a wide nye with the

955
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 8: two you know, up on his feet and you have

956
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 8: a little bit more time to get there. Even if

957
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 8: that hit the way it was supposed to do, I'm

958
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 8: still not one hundred percent soul City so gets there.

959
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 7: We talked about it a little bit while it happened.

960
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 7: There was so many things that seemed like they were

961
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 7: wrong on that that it had to be So is that.

962
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: Something that the quarterbacks should see and then call out

963
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: of the play.

964
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 5: It's a good point.

965
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 8: If it was Tom Brady, I would probably say that

966
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 8: he would, but I don't know what kind of controls

967
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 8: they're giving.

968
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 9: Jacoby.

969
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 8: Brissett and Drake may to come out and say that

970
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 8: that was you know, that's on Jacoby, like you could,

971
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 8: but I didn't. Brady always talks about snapping the ball

972
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 8: into a defense that it's gonna the play is gonna work. Right,

973
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 8: That play had no chance of working in my mind.

974
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 8: You know your four down, you have the the end

975
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 8: is closer to the line of scrimmage and hand in

976
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 8: the dirt.

977
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 7: I just it's very un defense and ends up in

978
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 7: the backfield. So ends up bumping him, knocking into Jamichael Hasty,

979
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 7: and no one touches the guy who ended up killing

980
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 7: right percent. There was like a there was a variety

981
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 7: of things that seemed out of position on that plug.

982
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 8: It was actually a screen to Jeane Bell, it was

983
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 8: a it was a play action tight end screen.

984
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 5: Matt would have lost it like that.

985
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 7: If that ends up getting completed for like twenty yards,

986
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 7: Matt's already Matt's already got Jeem Bell based on his catch.

987
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 8: Try try forty five yard touchdown. There was nobody on

988
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 8: the other side of the field if they actually got

989
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 8: it off that that That was one thing that you

990
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 8: looked at at the overhead is you know they ran the.

991
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 9: Receiver that was on that side of the field.

992
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 7: So I sacked on the screen is beyond inexcusable. Yeah,

993
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 7: that's beyond inexcusable. Getting sacked on a screen and he

994
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 7: had no shot and it was not on Jacoby unless

995
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 7: it was like what you're saying, Yeah, he needed to

996
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 7: fix that pre snap.

997
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right. Eight five to five Pats five

998
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: hundred is the a stick and hotline. Eight five five

999
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: Pats five hundred web radio at patries dot com as

1000
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,479
Speaker 2: the email address. We were talking before the show little

1001
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: NFL news that they're talking now about and they've been

1002
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: talking about allowing private equity firms to invest in teams.

1003
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: Of course, you know that would give the owners some

1004
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: liquid asset, some liquidity up front, but it could. I

1005
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: don't know how they would do it, but it could.

1006
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 7: If you are a fan, you could also take a

1007
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 7: pay cut and that would give a little liquidity.

1008
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: Well, sure, there you go liquid If you're a fan

1009
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: and you're invested in this private equity firm, if they

1010
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: create some fun, maybe you could have a part ownership.

1011
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: And a team get controlling interest.

1012
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: In the I don't know controlling interest. I think I

1013
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: think you're controlling interest something like that.

1014
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 7: If we if like Paul, you get controlling interest like Paul,

1015
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 7: we're a little concerned. You really don't have anybody that's

1016
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 7: over like two hundred and fifty pounds, Like what do

1017
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 7: you do?

1018
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 3: It's interesting, though, because you feel like private equity firms

1019
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: are trying to you know, make money, and you know

1020
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: they're gonna get a little slice of it. But it

1021
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 3: almost seems more like you're doing it to be part

1022
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: of it, because you're not really going to make I.

1023
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 2: Think it's a little dangerous yea, honestly, because, like you said,

1024
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 2: private equity firms, their only motivation is to make money.

1025
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 2: Now you can say, well, yeah, but if the team

1026
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: is good, then they make more money.

1027
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 5: Not necessarily.

1028
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at the Celtics, Well they're good.

1029
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 10: I know.

1030
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, a, you're making money.

1031
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: But their valuation has gone up so much for different reasons.

1032
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 7: But yes, yes, anyway, But I'm saying, like when you're

1033
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 7: paying a bunch of guys like Max dollars, there's a

1034
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 7: big debt coming and that's why they're getting out.

1035
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: No, that's not why.

1036
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 5: Let's just say I'm not just making that up me too.

1037
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: Let's just say I know some things, they.

1038
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 7: Get some things going on. Yeah, and I'll bet you

1039
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 7: Robert would have no interest in no, but that kind

1040
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 7: of a debt. But they also taking on that kind.

1041
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: They also can't afford to just give it. He can't

1042
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: afford the owner to give it to his kids. Because

1043
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: they can't afford were the appreciation.

1044
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: Tax, you know, like, so they have to sell it,

1045
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: ye billionaire problems, and.

1046
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: That's because the valuation of the team has going up.

1047
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 5: Anyway, they're gonna get six billion dollars for the Celtics,

1048
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 5: but they're gonna try.

1049
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 9: They go pretty pretty close.

1050
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: I mean, the latest valuation of the Patriots is seven billion,

1051
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: which is like, it's unbelievable. If I were the Crafts,

1052
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: I'd be tempted to sell it.

1053
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 5: I have to tell say that, well, I got some

1054
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 5: time I left here.

1055
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: Bro I know, we wish that, we hope that never

1056
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: ever ever happens, but like, well, I mean yeah, but

1057
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: personally bought it. You bought it for one hundred and

1058
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: seventy some odd million dollars and now seven billion. That's crazy.

1059
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1060
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 9: Sounds like a lot of money.

1061
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: It's a big twinkie put money in the stock market.

1062
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: You know.

1063
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 3: Lane's always mad. And when they were when she was

1064
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 3: in middle school, they did like a exercise like find

1065
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: a company to put money into, and she found like Apple,

1066
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: you know, in like the eighties, and she was always like,

1067
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: man if I just put money in Apple at that point,

1068
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 3: right for I don't know, can't I tell.

1069
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: You, though, if you want to put money in, go

1070
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 2: to Bob's Discount Furniture. This needs something to do before

1071
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: next week's kickoff. Why not get your living room game

1072
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Speaker 2: day ready by playing the Bob's Discount Furniture Dare to

1073
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1074
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Speaker 2: Sofa with the competition, you get customizable, modular design, bibble

1075
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Speaker 2: pedic power, reclining seats, charging ports, and plenty of storage

1076
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Speaker 2: for one hundreds less than other brands. Now that's a

1077
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Speaker 2: winning play, So stop in and see how much you

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Speaker 2: can save when you Dare to Compare with Bob's Discount Furniture,

1079
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: the official furniture store of the New England Patriots. And

1080
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: when you're done and you've got all your living room

1081
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: all set up and ready to go, You've got your

1082
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 2: big screen ready to watch the NFL regular season. It's

1083
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: easy to drink, it's easy to enjoy. Bud Light, the

1084
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Speaker 2: official sponsor of the New England Patriots.

1085
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: I just I got him dying to hear what you

1086
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: guys think about Juju going back to the Chiefs, because

1087
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: I just I feel like I'm so fascinated to see

1088
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: what that looks like like kN Patrick Mahomes like resurrect

1089
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: the ghost of Juju Smith Schuster, who to me just

1090
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: looks like he is done. He can't run anymore, he

1091
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 3: can't really catch the ball anymore. Like if he goes

1092
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 3: there and actually is productive, like I'm going to have

1093
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 3: like a crisis, like do you think he's gonna be

1094
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: any goods productive to you? I don't like if he

1095
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 3: plays if they put him out there, like if they

1096
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Speaker 3: put him on the field, I think.

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00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 5: He's insurance in case they lose what's his face?

1098
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 7: Rashi Rice through it right, like a suspense tension, and

1099
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 7: maybe they're not okay, completely comfortable because I think Hollywood

1100
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 7: Brown's hurt. I think wash Rice they think could have

1101
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 7: a shoe drop on them. And they just want a

1102
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 7: guy who so.

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00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 3: It's not from this year, just like a d is

1104
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Speaker 3: it No?

1105
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 5: Not a d Mitchell?

1106
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 7: They Xavier A Worthy Worthy and Sky Moore I think

1107
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 7: would be like their best two receivers.

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00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 5: In that case that's not enough.

1109
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: I kind of wanted to say, I just want one

1110
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: there with Patrick, like any Patrick Mahomes' is like ten

1111
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: passes to Juju when he's like.

1112
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 7: Not necessarily Patriot current Patriots related. But it looks like

1113
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 7: old friend Mac Jones has won the backup job because CJ.

1114
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 7: Bether got hurt. He's was released with an injury settlement. Okay,

1115
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 7: so mac Jones is probably QB two.

1116
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: You think he would have won it anyway?

1117
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 5: It sounds like he would have.

1118
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it was I guess it was pretty close

1119
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 7: all summer and now Bethar got hurt.

1120
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Speaker 5: So I don't know how much that affected, you know,

1121
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 5: I just don't.

1122
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 3: Get all the Max stuff like I saw. You know,

1123
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: we had a good preseason, but like everything I saw

1124
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: from him were things that he showed with the Patriots.

1125
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: It wasn't like all of a sudden he looked different

1126
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 3: to me.

1127
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 5: Can we talk about something that I found interesting?

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00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 11: What's that?

1129
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 5: Do you see that comment from Doug Peterson?

1130
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: Did you see what his walk back was?

1131
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 5: I know, But unfortunately, when you clarify it, like days later,

1132
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 5: you realize, oh, I shouldn't have said that, and you.

1133
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 9: Come up with a not solo evable what did you

1134
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:01,959
Speaker 9: tell people?

1135
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 7: So he said, you know, he was talking in positive

1136
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 7: terms about mac Jones this summer doing some things well, throwing.

1137
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 7: He still once in a while, he still had that

1138
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 7: goes back into patriot mode or goes back to his

1139
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 7: Patriots days. Patriots, he reverts to his patriots ways. And

1140
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 7: you know, evidently there are media contingents that are worse

1141
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 7: than than ours. No one asked him what that meant, right,

1142
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 7: and then I guess he clarified it days later with.

1143
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 3: With like the terminology and you know, getting yeah he was.

1144
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 5: He was saying, sure, that's what he was talking about.

1145
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 8: They were saying like he was giving hand signals that

1146
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 8: were Patriots hand signals but not Jaguars hand signals. You

1147
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 8: guys believe that in a little bit, a little bit, Yeah,

1148
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 8: I do.

1149
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 5: I believe it was a shot.

1150
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 8: Yeah it could have been, but I do believe that that.

1151
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 8: I mean, it happens all the time that you are.

1152
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 8: It's like, you know, people that speak the English is

1153
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 8: their second language, and so in your head you're you're

1154
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 8: speaking Spanish, but in your and you have to speak

1155
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 8: in English.

1156
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 10: You know.

1157
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: You know, for a quarterback that goes from one team,

1158
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure that happened. That happens a lot, but you

1159
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 2: don't often here coaches say, oh.

1160
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 7: They're correct, it would be you know, he's negative you know,

1161
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 7: he's still picking up our system. He still goes back

1162
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 7: to some of the terminology he was familiar with. You

1163
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 7: don't say that not reverting to his Patriots ways, that's

1164
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 7: a negative. Reverting to bad ways.

1165
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, like, yeah, I think he was talking about he's

1166
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 5: got to be the smartest guy in the room.

1167
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: Stems, you know, most Yeah, that kind of stuff. I agree.

1168
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: All right. A couple a couple more.

1169
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 8: Calvin Anderson with an injury settlement injury designation and Jonathan Russell,

1170
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 8: a IPP player, both cuts and were down to sixty

1171
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 8: three sixty one.

1172
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Speaker 2: If these reports are accurate, correct, Yeah, yeah, yes, okay,

1173
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: all right, we'll take a break, we'll come back. We'll

1174
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: get to your calls. We'll get to your emails. They

1175
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: see the emails coming in, thank you. We'll get to

1176
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Speaker 2: all of that right after this.

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Speaker 13: Thanks staceym g to just listen to you on the radio,

1188
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Speaker 13: And just wanted to follow up on one thing, just

1189
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 13: on the long quote there on the Jacoby and Drake

1190
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 13: about and I think at this current point Drake has

1191
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 13: outplayed Jacoby. I just wanted to ask you the context

1192
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 13: of that. You know, yeah, I would say, you know,

1193
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 13: it just starts.

1194
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Speaker 11: It starts in.

1195
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 14: Practice and also in the game where you know Drake

1196
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 14: has played better now in saying that, you know, everyone

1197
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 14: wants to know, like who the starter is going to be.

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Speaker 14: I think there are multiple factors that kind of have

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Speaker 14: to go into this decision. One is the total body

1200
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Speaker 14: of work, whether we're talking about the spring or the

1201
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 14: entirety of training camp. And then I will also say,

1202
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 14: oftentimes we forget about just the overall experience that a

1203
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 14: guy like Jacobe has, which will also be waited in

1204
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 14: the decision that we have to make here in the

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Speaker 14: near future.

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Speaker 11: But I'm happy with the way those guys.

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00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 14: Are, you know, battling it out and hopefully over you know,

1208
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 14: over the next couple of days, we can name a

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Speaker 14: starter and get the season rolling.

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Speaker 11: In just one quick followup trouble, when when did that

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00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 11: start to turn in your view?

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Speaker 13: Was there one point that that stood out where he

1213
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 13: started to outplay him?

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 14: I don't have just a certain time. What I will say, it's,

1216
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 14: you know, just I would say there's a combination. Well, really,

1217
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 14: it's one thing. It's just Drake becoming more comfortable with

1218
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 14: the scheme and more comfortable with the players around him.

1219
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Speaker 11: So he's done a good job with that. I can't

1220
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Speaker 11: remember a certain point though, Mike. Sorry. The next question

1221
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Speaker 11: the College followed by Chris Ryan.

1222
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Speaker 4: Good morning, Drod Moarning does on this morning as well,

1223
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Speaker 4: and you said that, you know, we've all seen rookie

1224
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 4: quarterbacks thrown to the wolves too early. Is that just

1225
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 4: in reference to playing before they're ready, or being in

1226
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 4: a Pugnan situation where there's an offensive line they can't

1227
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 4: protect them, or or something else.

1228
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 14: I think I think every situation is unique, because you know,

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Speaker 14: I don't want to fall into this narrative fallacy or

1230
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 14: anything like that, because you have seen, you know, rookie

1231
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 14: quarterbasketball out there and perform at a high level. And

1232
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 14: I don't know what the story you know, how the

1233
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 14: story ends with Droit's rookie season, But all possibilities are

1234
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 14: open and we'll see what happens as far as like

1235
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 14: who we didn't start a hearing in your future?

1236
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 11: Another quick one.

1237
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 4: And I know that roster cuts are coming up here,

1238
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 4: But has there been a decision made whether Kendrick Bourne,

1239
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 4: Ony Talk Talkie and Cole Strange will begin the season

1240
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: on Pop?

1241
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, there have been those decisions.

1242
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 14: I'd rather just wait to get those to you and

1243
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 14: hold because there would have been decisions on a few Slayers,

1244
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 14: just not all of them.

1245
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 6: Thank you, Thank you, Chris Ryan, forward to Cornea.

1246
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 11: Chris, how are you? It just started to start some

1247
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 11: of the game where you know better than that. Try

1248
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 11: to find it there, guy. So it's Henry, It's Henry.

1249
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 11: I know it's Henry by bad Sorry.

1250
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Speaker 15: All right, just kind of back to the quarterback situation

1251
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 15: for Sick. You mentioned that if Jacoby is the choice,

1252
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 15: it could be based upon experience. How do you determine,

1253
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 15: you know, what is the right time for Drake to

1254
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 15: you know, to get that get that experience. If in

1255
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 15: fact he's you know, won the competition, kind of a

1256
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 15: why not now type of question order from to gain

1257
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 15: that appropriate experience.

1258
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 14: Yeah, when when I spoke, when I spoke about experience,

1259
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 14: I just wanted to make sure that you guys had

1260
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 14: transparency as far as the different factors that go into

1261
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 14: making this decision.

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Speaker 11: You know, it's no secret that Jakobe's been in the

1263
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 11: league for a long time.

1264
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 14: Uh And at the same time, I will say Drake

1265
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 14: has been performing well here over the last few weeks.

1266
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 14: So I just wanted to make sure that you guys

1267
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 14: knew the different factors that go into, uh naming a

1268
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Speaker 14: starting quarterback.

1269
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Speaker 15: And just kind of falling up on that, how do

1270
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 15: you kind of go about determining when is the right

1271
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 15: time for Drake?

1272
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 11: If it's not you know right now, you.

1273
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 14: Know that's something to think about going forward. It could

1274
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 14: be you know, a lack of performance on the offense

1275
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 14: as a whole. It could be that it can be injury.

1276
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 14: It could be so many different things. And that's why

1277
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 14: it's hard right now to do all of those different

1278
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 14: scenarios where if Kobe was to start, when Drake will

1279
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 14: be ready to get in the game and things like that.

1280
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 14: So it's a it's a very I don't want to

1281
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 14: say a unique situation, but it's a it's a case

1282
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 14: within itself where I just don't I just don't know

1283
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 14: at this current time.

1284
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 11: Thank you, Thank you the quarterin Rod, good morning.

1285
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 4: I want to ask, but the offensive line, the group

1286
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 4: we saw last night, other than Nick being in for David,

1287
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 4: is that the group you'd like to continue over the

1288
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 4: next two weeks before you get.

1289
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 11: To Cincinnati or you know where do things sort of

1290
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 11: stand on that unit?

1291
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 14: Yeah, we're still have some time to figure out, you know,

1292
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 14: what the best combination is. I would say those guys

1293
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 14: pre snap penalties aside, there were definitely times where that

1294
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 14: union out there did a pretty good job for the

1295
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 14: quarterback and also especially in the run game. Anytime you

1296
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 14: average over five yards to carry, I mean, it's a

1297
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 14: good it's a good day in the run game. Now

1298
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 14: I'm saying that, I'm not sure you know what the

1299
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 14: exact combination looks like, but we got it at four

1300
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 14: o'clock this morning, and still kind of you know, crank

1301
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 14: into the film, but we'll have a group ready to

1302
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 14: go for Cincy.

1303
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 11: And when it comes to cuts, will you guys start

1304
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 11: that process today or do it tomorrow.

1305
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 14: You know, that's a conversation I'm gonna have with Elliott.

1306
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 14: We spoke a little bit about it last night, how

1307
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 14: we wanted to approach it. We're both uh, we're both rookies,

1308
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 14: rookies in the game, and it'll probably start, you know,

1309
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 14: sometime here soon.

1310
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 10: Thank you, Chris, Hey Drod here you go on the

1311
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 10: offensive line, Just wondering that, given the issues at center,

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Speaker 10: would you would all consider trying Cold Strange out at

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Speaker 10: center when he's ready to come back.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean that was always a possibility, you know

1315
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 14: when he when we drafted Cole was that he did

1316
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 14: have that flex to be able to go in there

1317
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 14: and snap and saying that I'm not sure when Cole

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00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 14: will be ready to go.

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Speaker 11: That's where the medical professionals and Cole to design.

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Speaker 14: But if he's healthy, he'll definitely, uh, he'll definitely get

1321
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 14: some of those those opportunities.

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Speaker 10: I guess what about him, you know, makes him potentially

1323
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 10: intriguing option at center because I know that you know,

1324
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 10: there are a lot of evaluators before the draft who

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Speaker 10: thought he could play center.

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Speaker 11: In the pros.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I would say's overall athleticism He's one of those

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00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 14: guys that you know, even though he's a bigger guy,

1329
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 14: he can move and he can move bodies, so he's

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Speaker 14: a He's a very athletic offensive lineman in my opinion.

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Speaker 11: Thank you, thanks appreciate so far by Bob Souci.

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Speaker 16: More than draft moren Chris, So, I've heard you and

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00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 16: Elliott kind of repeatedly point to having the number three

1334
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 16: waiver claim coming up here. Do you guys expect to

1335
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 16: be active on the trade market in the next thirty

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00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 16: six hours or so, or are you more just kind

1337
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 16: of good with having the high waiver claim there?

1338
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 14: You know, I don't want to like overshoot anything as

1339
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 14: far as like the waiver wire. We're always looking for

1340
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 14: ways to improve the roster. And I would say, you know,

1341
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 14: between the Elliott and myself, we're on the same page.

1342
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 11: Whether it's through trades or waiver wire or whatever else.

1343
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 14: It is getting it off the street, which is always

1344
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 14: in the mind instead of how do we get this

1345
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 14: roster better?

1346
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 11: Uh, and how do we continue to improve as a

1347
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 11: team going forward.

1348
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Speaker 16: Have there been any intriguing trade offers or anything over

1349
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 16: the last couple of days.

1350
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 14: That's an Elliot question. He only brings me the uh,

1351
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 14: the ones that are that are pretty important.

1352
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 10: So thanks Ro, thank you your final up questions Bob

1353
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,959
Speaker 10: so C, Mike Gobob, Thanks day.

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00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 11: Good morning, John Dreda.

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Speaker 6: I want to ask you again about the overall experience

1356
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 6: in Jacoby's longevity tenure in the league.

1357
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 11: For context on that, is that related.

1358
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 6: To the seeing a variety of schemes playing in you know,

1359
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 6: adverse conditions on the road. What goes into the importance

1360
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 6: of that experience in longevity.

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Speaker 11: I would say all of the above, Bob.

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Speaker 14: You know, whether it's a you know, a road game

1363
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 14: and a tough environment, whether you know, just going out

1364
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 14: there leading teams to victory, those are all things that

1365
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 14: are important. And once again I just wanted to be

1366
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 14: very transparent about just the different, let's call it critical

1367
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 14: factors that have to go into this decision going forward

1368
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Speaker 14: and naming the starting quarterback.

1369
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Speaker 6: I think we just quick fall up on a different positions,

1370
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Speaker 6: the kicking situation. What do you want in a place kicker.

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Speaker 6: We saw obviously Joey get the attempts last night from

1372
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 6: very long distance at the end of each half. When

1373
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Speaker 6: you make the decision on that position, if it hasn't

1374
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 6: been made already. What do you want as a head coach.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we just want someone that's steady, someone that you

1376
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 14: know can make the you know, just all the field goals.

1377
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Speaker 14: So give me one hundred percent kicker, someone who could

1378
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 14: kick the ball through the upright. It's one hundred percent

1379
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Speaker 14: of the time. But that competition, you know, it's been

1380
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Speaker 14: going on in all training camp and it's definitely anytime

1381
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Speaker 14: you have the ability to score points or a player

1382
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 14: on your team that could score points, this is an

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01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 14: important spot. And you know this league is it's all

1384
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 14: about you know, it comes down down to the wire

1385
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 14: a lot of the times, and you got to have

1386
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 14: a kicker that you can trust and depend depending on.

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Speaker 17: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, no

1388
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 17: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1389
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 17: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

1390
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Speaker 17: now it's next for residential delivery.

1391
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Speaker 5: Only and now great moments in.

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Speaker 11: History.

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Speaker 8: My point was, like Alex is just saying that you

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Speaker 8: can't You couldn't imagine to an eight and either could have.

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Speaker 8: That's I couldn't have either, because I thought that at

1396
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 8: the very worst, they would just.

1397
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Speaker 5: Be to think I'm really I am negative and I

1398
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Speaker 5: don't ever think of that, but I don't. I don't

1399
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Speaker 5: think I don't that.

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Speaker 8: But but you said seven wins is their ceiling, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: And I don't necessarily disagree with that.

1402
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 9: They're not going to get to seven wins.

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Speaker 5: But when if everything fell in in other words, if

1404
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Speaker 5: they stayed healthy, everything fell in place, but everybody was

1405
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 5: hurt close the other teams got hurt, and you didn't like,

1406
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 5: maybe you could win seven games. That's how I felt

1407
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Speaker 5: about this team.

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Speaker 9: I don't, but I don't necessarily disagree with that.

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Speaker 8: If they're two and eight, Paul, like there, I thought,

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Speaker 8: win the four games, that's going to be a lot.

1411
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Speaker 3: I didn't think the offense could get worse.

1412
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Speaker 5: Than I didn't think that I would. I would, that's

1413
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Speaker 5: the sign, But that's I didn't think the offense could

1414
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Speaker 5: be worse than it was.

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Speaker 3: And my question is just I think we all kind

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Speaker 3: of agree that, like six, I feel like we said

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Speaker 3: a lot. Six six wins feels like the floor for

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Speaker 3: this team. Like he's too good a coach to not

1419
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Speaker 3: get them six wins. Why aren't we the six wins

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Speaker 3: this year?

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Speaker 11: You know?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would have said it's like, see I would

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Speaker 7: I know you think I'm probably lying, but I'm not either,

1424
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 7: because I think there's some teams that they could be

1425
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 7: just like the last couple of games they played, they

1426
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Speaker 7: could have won.

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Speaker 9: That would be a big mistake.

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Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered. A five to

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Speaker 2: five pass five hundred is the A stickn outline web

1431
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Speaker 2: radio at Patriots dot com is the email address. We

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Speaker 2: got a lot of emails. Will clear out the phones here. Uh, Todd,

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Speaker 2: North Carolina's been holding on for quite a while. What's up, Todd?

1434
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 2: Todd has been holding on for quite a while? And

1435
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: gay up? Okay, No, no worries, No worries. How about

1436
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: Daniel from Sacramento? What's up Daniel?

1437
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys are doing okay.

1438
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Speaker 18: So the question I wanted to ask what it's.

1439
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Speaker 19: Kind of just like something that you guys were saying

1440
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 19: before a couple of weeks ago. I know the old

1441
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 19: line is bad, it's and it's it's very scary throwing

1442
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 19: Drake in there. So I remember you guys talking. Maybe

1443
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 19: maybe week five could be like a good hitting spot

1444
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 19: for him to come in. I don't see the harm

1445
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 19: in a quarterback sitting I would, trust me. I'm one

1446
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Speaker 19: of those guys. I want Drake to start week one.

1447
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Speaker 19: I want, I want it to happen, But I don't

1448
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 19: see the harm at all. You can bring any harm

1449
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 19: to a rookie just him sitting for a little bit.

1450
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Speaker 19: But with that said, what what do you guys realistically

1451
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Speaker 19: Because I know we're probably not gonna make the playoffs

1452
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 19: or anything, but what is realistic record? If Drake May

1453
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 19: is playing either week one or week five, what do

1454
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 19: you think the ending record is if the defense is

1455
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 19: playing good. I know it's a hard question because our

1456
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 19: offense is very unproven with the new offense coordinator, but

1457
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Speaker 19: just yeah, basically, just a question is what do you

1458
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Speaker 19: think our record would be him starting week one or

1459
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Speaker 19: week five?

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Speaker 2: They could take it off their guys think, okay, so

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Speaker 2: what's the Is there any difference if he starts week

1462
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Speaker 2: one or week five in the record.

1463
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Speaker 9: I think it's hard to say it because I just

1464
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 9: you don't know.

1465
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Speaker 2: I know it's hard to say, but that's why it's

1466
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Speaker 2: a good question.

1467
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Speaker 3: Uh why I would say. I mean, look, he's not

1468
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Speaker 3: going to probably get in week five if they haven't

1469
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Speaker 3: lost four of the five at least, right, I mean,

1470
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Speaker 3: at they're four, if they've already got four wins, then

1471
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Speaker 3: he's probably not going to play. So I don't know.

1472
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's probably one or two wins difference.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

1474
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Speaker 3: I'm not really sure how to answer the question. I

1475
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 3: just think they're gonna win.

1476
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Speaker 7: I mean, I think his point is they're probably not

1477
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 7: going to win like those games. They're probably not going

1478
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 7: to beat Cincinnati, San Francisco and the Jets. I think

1479
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 7: people look at Seattle it's sort of a toss.

1480
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Speaker 5: Up kind of game. I think that's his point. Yeah,

1481
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 5: without saying it's so I'm.

1482
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Speaker 7: Extrapolating, and again I'm be reading too much into this,

1483
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 7: but I think he's thinking, what's the difference? Why not

1484
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 7: just wait, I think you can oh that difference okay,

1485
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 7: like not the difference in the record. No, he's asking

1486
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 7: you what would the record be? And I think he's

1487
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 7: looking for someone to say one in three with or

1488
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 7: without Drake May. Yeah, So to his point, like, well,

1489
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Speaker 7: if you were going to be four and oh with

1490
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Speaker 7: Drake May and one and three with percent, then I

1491
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 7: think people would say, well, start May. But I don't

1492
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 7: think anybody thinks that, Yeah, but I.

1493
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Speaker 2: Don't think that's why people want us. I don't think

1494
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: winning more games to start the season is why people

1495
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: who want me to start are saying that. I think

1496
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: they're saying it is because they want his development to

1497
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 2: be corrected.

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Speaker 7: And I think you can stunt a development by not

1499
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 7: playing them. Yeah, I think it's a small little possibility,

1500
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 7: much like you can ruin a quarterback that playing him

1501
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 7: too soon, small little possibility.

1502
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 5: I don't dismiss it. I think that both of those

1503
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 5: things could happen.

1504
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd be more worried about him being ruined by playing. Honestly,

1505
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 8: He's come a long way with his fundamentals, and like

1506
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 8: with his mechanics, his footwork is is night and day better.

1507
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 8: And as much as I don't want to give them

1508
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 8: too many flowers before they play a regular season game,

1509
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 8: this coaching staff takes a lot of heat, and the

1510
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Speaker 8: Hires took a lot of heat, and I gotta be honest,

1511
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 8: I think they've done a great job with him so

1512
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 8: far in terms of his mechanics. His feet are night

1513
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 8: and day from where they were in college. Now it's

1514
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 8: preseason and we'll see if it carries over into regular

1515
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 8: season games. But the little things that he's still working

1516
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 8: on from a minutia standpoint, like him drifting in the pocket.

1517
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 8: If you start drifting in the pocket and you have

1518
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 8: Trey Hendrickson coming off your edge, that's a lot different

1519
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 8: than a third string defensive end coming off your edge.

1520
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 8: Like those things can invite pressure and put you into

1521
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 8: harm's way. I still feel like he ducks the ball.

1522
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,919
Speaker 8: They say that they don't care about his throwing motion,

1523
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 8: but to me, he still ducks the ball. And you know,

1524
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 8: in the throat of pulk on the crossing route, the

1525
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 8: defense is like this close from knocking the ball out

1526
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 8: of his hands because he's carrying it so low.

1527
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 2: Uh.

1528
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 8: Those are like the little things that he's still working through.

1529
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 8: And you just worry that if now, all of a sudden,

1530
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 8: he gets into a game and it's a forty five

1531
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 8: percent pressure rate and he's constantly under duress, now he's

1532
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 8: gonna develop bad habits and it's going.

1533
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 9: To start to break on him.

1534
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 8: So all the progress that they've made with his mechanics

1535
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 8: could go out out the door of Big Loo and McDonald.

1536
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 9: They're coming after him in weeks one and two.

1537
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 8: The Jets in week three two, I mean yeah, and

1538
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 8: Nick Bosa in week four yeah right.

1539
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 5: Rough four games, yeah yeah, and we'll get him back

1540
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 5: in time for Bradley Chubb to come off for you.

1541
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 3: There's no Easy's not going to be easy.

1542
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 9: No, there isn't.

1543
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 8: I I am surprised though, that they that they don't

1544
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 8: care about the throwing motion a little bit.

1545
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 9: I've asked him about.

1546
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 8: It like two or three times when we've had the

1547
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 8: assistance available, and they they keep saying that as long

1548
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 8: as he's getting the ball where it needs to go,

1549
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 8: Like they look at it more from like an act.

1550
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 2: They talk about their throw motion. They're talking about the

1551
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 2: wind up right.

1552
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, So he has like a long wind up

1553
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 8: and he dips the ball below his waist when he

1554
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 8: winds up, so it goes below and defenders when they

1555
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 8: come around in the corner, they're gonna start swiping at

1556
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 8: his arm.

1557
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 5: It's one of the things that I don't It's one

1558
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 5: of the what is he like.

1559
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 2: He does.

1560
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 8: And he moves I do like that, Like when he

1561
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 8: moves around the pocket, he keeps two hands on at

1562
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 8: eyes downfield, good poise, but he just he does dip

1563
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 8: the ball.

1564
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 7: So it's one of the things that I still see

1565
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 7: that I am concerned about is that reload and when

1566
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 7: you have that kind of you know, wind up with

1567
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 7: the ball. He pumps a lot, and then when he

1568
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 7: ends up throwing it, it's not the same thing again,

1569
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 7: so it's a much different like just quick little throw.

1570
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 7: Now he hit Hasty on the first player of the

1571
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 7: second drive with a play like that, and Hasty picked

1572
01:08:58,840 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 7: up an easy first down.

1573
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 5: I just don't like. I looked at Mike, I said,

1574
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 5: he's still doing it. I don't like that. Like that's

1575
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 5: a play.

1576
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 7: I think that's going to get him in trouble more

1577
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 7: often than not when you don't like sort of reset

1578
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 7: when you want to pump it and you're just kind

1579
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,440
Speaker 7: of like throwing it as an afterthought.

1580
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 5: He's getting away with it.

1581
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird to me too, and some of them, Paul,

1582
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 3: because it feels like he has the right idea and

1583
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 3: he stops and then he's like no, yeah, and then

1584
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 3: he because then he goes sidearm with you, and you know,

1585
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 3: so it's almost like he's making up for the lost

1586
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 3: time on this and now I got to hit the

1587
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 3: guy over here.

1588
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 5: That's exactly what it is.

1589
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 3: I'm adjusting the arm angle, and I.

1590
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 5: Can't go through my whole thing again because I won't

1591
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 5: have time to do right.

1592
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 8: And is it just throw it when you should throw it,

1593
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 8: get it out, you know, the one to hasty. He

1594
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 8: has like two stop routes like vertical stops. And I

1595
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 8: thought Taekwon was was open and his shoe.

1596
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 9: Fell off, like his shoe.

1597
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 5: There's a lot of crap going on.

1598
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 8: Can we can talk about why his shoe fell off,

1599
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 8: But his shoe fell off, and I kind of thought, well,

1600
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 8: like maybe he wasn't going to throw it fifteen yards

1601
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 8: down the field without a shoe on, so so he

1602
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 8: was just like, you know, like I could throw this

1603
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 8: to Taekwon, but if I step into this and my

1604
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 8: shoes off and like, you know whatever.

1605
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 9: So, but the wind up is one thing.

1606
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 8: And the drifting in the pocket I still think is

1607
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 8: there at times, like with the throat to Pop Douglas

1608
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 8: on the crossing ground. If you watch it from the

1609
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 8: end zone angle, he's he's drifting with Pop Douglas like

1610
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 8: as Pop is running across the field, Drake is going

1611
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 8: let to his left and what happens is is, you know,

1612
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 8: the the edge on the left hand side like he's

1613
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 8: gonna run into a defender like he's gonna run into

1614
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 8: and create pressure on his own. So those are like

1615
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 8: the little things that now when you get into an

1616
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 8: NFL pocket against real pass rushers, that you start to

1617
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 8: get a little bit concerned about.

1618
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 6: You know.

1619
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 2: That's the thing, Like, it's worth reminding ourselves that the

1620
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: defenses that we saw in preseason are not anything near

1621
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 2: what we're going to see. First of all, the talent

1622
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,799
Speaker 2: level is gonna be much higher, but they're also scheming

1623
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 2: it up. And you know, as much as this is

1624
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 2: a passing league and off you know, the league wants

1625
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 2: offenses to have the edge. Defenses are better now. They're

1626
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 2: better at give, you know, disguising things and giving quarterbacks

1627
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 2: different looks. That's why it's so hard to be a

1628
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 2: good quarterback in this league. And it's he's gonna see

1629
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 2: things he's never seen before.

1630
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know.

1631
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 8: Now, with that all that being said, all the nitpicks

1632
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 8: that I had being said, there are some guys that

1633
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 8: are just so gifted as throwers that they can just do.

1634
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 9: All this crap and get away with it.

1635
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 8: And as another thing I wrote about and after further

1636
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 8: review that his mechanics right now remind me a lot

1637
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 8: of Aaron Rodgers at the beginning, where there are some

1638
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 8: of these weird, quirky things that he's doing, Like on

1639
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 8: the Jalen Polk throw, he's he falls off the bidline

1640
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 8: right like he falls to his right normally, like a

1641
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 8: quarterback coach would look at that and be like, we

1642
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 8: need to fix this. It's a dot. It's like right

1643
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 8: on his hands in stride. Like some guys just can

1644
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 8: break the rule, like you have that kid in school

1645
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 8: that always got away with everything. Like some guys are

1646
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 8: just so talented that they just get away with all

1647
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 8: this crap. And he might be one of those types

1648
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 8: of guys. If that was Mac Jones, that would be

1649
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 8: a problem because he doesn't have the physical skill set

1650
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 8: that Drake does. So maybe he's just a freak like

1651
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 8: you not You don't know yet.

1652
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 3: Fingers crossed, Yeah all right.

1653
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 2: Web Radio at patries dot com is the email address

1654
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 2: Joe writes in sorry for making Fritz swear last week,

1655
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 2: Good get you. I agree with Paul that you hypothetically

1656
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 2: could pull may after you start him, But in reality,

1657
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 2: how can you certainly not Mayo with his need to

1658
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 2: be liked by the media. If you're pulling him for

1659
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: his mistakes, then why he needs to make them to learn?

1660
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 2: If you pull them because of the O line, then

1661
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 2: how do you explain it? Yeah, if you think drafting

1662
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 2: Milton was going to cause unwonted questions or distractions, how

1663
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 2: can you justify pulling May without saying directly that it's

1664
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 2: the Lion's fault.

1665
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 5: No, No, I wouldn't pull May. I would not want

1666
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 5: to do that. I'm just saying I wouldn't not play

1667
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 5: him because once I play him, I have to keep

1668
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 5: him out there. Yeah, like that to me shouldn't be

1669
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 5: a deterrent. If he plays and he's really bad, he

1670
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 5: should be treated like all the other players and lose

1671
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 5: playing time. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

1672
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 2: But I think what he's saying is No, it's a

1673
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 2: really good email.

1674
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 5: Like all the points valid, it.

1675
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 2: Also goes to something I was thinking about with the cutdowns.

1676
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 2: So my contention, I don't know this, no one's told me.

1677
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 2: But my contention is, you know, and Jerry kind of

1678
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 2: said it. He wants to tell the team who the

1679
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 2: start you know, the team who the starting quarterback is

1680
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 2: before he tells the media I got that, which is fine.

1681
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: You know, so you tell the team, but we all

1682
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 2: know that May is the best quarterback. So if we do,

1683
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 2: then probably the team does too, the players. So but

1684
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 2: if they go with Jacoby, how does he explain that

1685
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 2: to the team. How does he tell the team, Yeah,

1686
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,799
Speaker 2: we're gonna go with Jacoby because our line stinks.

1687
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 7: No, because he feels like he gives them the better

1688
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 7: chance to win with based on his experience.

1689
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 5: But he's ready to run.

1690
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 2: The point is, like, are the players going to buy.

1691
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 5: That if he if he's ready? If if May's not

1692
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 5: ready to run the offense?

1693
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 7: Yes, well, ye okay, if he's but he's better. There's

1694
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 7: nobody that has eyes that doesn't know that May is

1695
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 7: better than That's what I mean.

1696
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 5: But that doesn't mean he's ready to play.

1697
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 2: No, No, that's a big if.

1698
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 5: But let's say he is, then he should play.

1699
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 2: I know, but like what if, like there's this other

1700
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: ulterior plan.

1701
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 5: That's a coaching mistake.

1702
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 2: But that's my point is, how do you explain that

1703
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 2: to the team if he is ready, how do you

1704
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 2: explain it to the team that Jacoby is our starter?

1705
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think it's that hard. I mean,

1706
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 3: I think Jacoby has the respect of all those guys.

1707
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 3: I mean, if you guys saw he was on Devon

1708
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 3: Godshaw's podcast and don Von Godshaw was singing the praises

1709
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 3: of the leadership of Jacoby Brissett and how he was

1710
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 3: also still getting guys you know ready. I mean, I

1711
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 3: don't think that there's any secret about you know, the

1712
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 3: future is Drake May and everybody knows it. But I

1713
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 3: think people still have a lot of respect for Jacoby Brissette,

1714
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 3: and I agree, you know, frame the right way. I

1715
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 3: think those guys will will get in line. I mean,

1716
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,560
Speaker 3: like what I said earlier, Look, we're gonna play Cincinnati.

1717
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 3: This kid, this guy's played in Cincinnati, He's beaten Cincinnati.

1718
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 3: You know, we we've we've gone into multiple game plans

1719
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 3: even when he wasn't playing for us in Cleveland that

1720
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 3: you know, he knows what it's going to take to

1721
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 3: beat this defense and how we're going to have to play. Okay,

1722
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 3: so he's you know, and you just got to take

1723
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:27,759
Speaker 3: it week by week. I think we get we're getting

1724
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 3: so caught up and like you know, when he's going

1725
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 3: to start, it's like, let's just focus on week one.

1726
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 3: At Cincinnati, who realistically gives you the best chance to

1727
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 3: win this game. I think there's a there's an argument

1728
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 3: even as you know, as Paul was saying, based on

1729
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 3: the ability, we all know who has more ability, but

1730
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 3: who's going to give you the best chance to win?

1731
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 3: I don't think it's it's a it's a it's a

1732
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 3: false argument to say that we really believe that Jacoby

1733
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 3: Brissett gives us the best chance.

1734
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 8: Okay, you know, I definitely feel agree with you one

1735
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,839
Speaker 8: hundred percent that they can sell it to the players

1736
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 8: because they all really like, in respect, Kobe Brissett. So

1737
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 8: I I definitely feel that that there would be a

1738
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 8: general feeling of, you know, confidence in that respect. But

1739
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 8: I'm sure that there would be a lot of players

1740
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 8: in that locker room that are especially on the defensive

1741
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 8: side of the ball, that maybe have faced Drake May

1742
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 8: in practice, that are just like, this guy is much better.

1743
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 3: It's it's like the undertone that I've realized over the

1744
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 3: last few weeks of camp, where it was like Brissett's reps,

1745
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 3: Brisset's reps in the games that fans us everybody you're

1746
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 3: just kind of in a holding pattern with these preset

1747
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 3: reps or when he starts, and everybody's aware that, like

1748
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,560
Speaker 3: it doesn't ultimately mean anything win or loss against Cincinnati

1749
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 3: with Bresset a quarterback, it doesn't really mean anything other

1750
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 3: than how does it affect when Drake May is gonna

1751
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 3: get in there? So you know, even like I hesitate

1752
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 3: to say, even in success, you're kind of like, well great,

1753
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 3: but like, come on, let's just get Drake in there.

1754
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 3: Like it's gonna be the undertone all season long until

1755
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 3: he actually gets in.

1756
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 8: It's definitely one of those we have to do is

1757
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 8: show today topics too, because in like two or three years,

1758
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 8: it's gonna be totally irrelevant of whether or not Drake

1759
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 8: May started Week one twenty twenty.

1760
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 2: Four, right.

1761
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 3: Unless you got hurt and then they got the first

1762
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 3: overall pick next year, then you get a receiver. I

1763
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 3: was looking back on that though, it's like, you know,

1764
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 3: kind of a similar position with the Road, but you know,

1765
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 3: like that the way that that injury happened to him

1766
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 3: that then enabled them to get Jamar Chase, it was

1767
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 3: like it was almost like wun't you almost rather like

1768
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 3: let's just start May and then he's gonna get hurt.

1769
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 3: Then we're gonna and then present's gonna start the rest

1770
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 3: of the season. Well, we're gonna have a top three

1771
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 3: pick again, I mean start.

1772
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 8: Borough least started a chunk of games in his first year,

1773
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 8: so you got to see that it was there that

1774
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 8: you know, and that it was you know, he wasn't

1775
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 8: fully there yet, but you could clearly tell he could play.

1776
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 9: But yeah, it did kind of work out, you know.

1777
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 2: Floyd and Redford. Michigan Patriots quarterback coach TC McCartney said

1778
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 2: the best way to get better at football is to play. Also,

1779
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 2: the head coach said that too. It's not to say

1780
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 2: you can't learn from the sidelines, but the best way

1781
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 2: to get better is to play. Drake May needs to

1782
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 2: play this year. Exclamation point. He doesn't have to start

1783
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 2: week one, but by week five or six. I'm hoping

1784
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 2: to see Drake me too.

1785
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 3: That's and that's that's it. I mean, yeah, I'm fine

1786
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 3: preaching patients right now. Week one, week two, That's as

1787
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 3: far as I'll get ahead of myself. But one hundred

1788
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 3: percent agree with Floyd. If we get to November and

1789
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 3: we're still just watching an average team kind of struggle

1790
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 3: to move the ball, I have no.

1791
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 2: Doubt that Drake May will start the majority of the

1792
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 2: games this season. My only question is is he going

1793
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 2: to start Week one? But I think I think yes,

1794
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 2: the majority of games will be started by Drake May

1795
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 2: this year.

1796
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 8: Agreed he'll be in there by Halloween at the latest.

1797
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 8: I mean, there's no way that we're talking about him

1798
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 8: playing week one, right, not at all this year. Right,

1799
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 8: We're already past that point. He's definitely playing this year.

1800
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 2: And do you think that the decision has been made

1801
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 2: by the team. Let's just say, like like today, they

1802
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 2: probably know, but let's say Monday, when they got back

1803
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 2: from the Commander's game. Do you think knew at that

1804
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 2: point who was going to be the Week one starter?

1805
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 2: Or they will? Are they still talking?

1806
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,560
Speaker 9: I think they knew on April twenty seven. This is

1807
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 9: our wrong.

1808
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 2: If they had already made up their mind. If they

1809
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 2: made up their mind, then I think starts week one,

1810
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 2: Then that's wrong.

1811
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 9: I'm with Paul.

1812
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 5: I think they have a plan.

1813
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 7: They're sticking to it, and I'm not as convinced as

1814
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 7: you guys that he's going to start. He's going to

1815
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 7: start the majority of games. I think they have a plan.

1816
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 2: I believe me.

1817
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 5: I hope I'm wrong.

1818
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that's a you know, it's a

1819
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 3: good question. I don't think that they know when they

1820
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 3: want to put him in. I don't think like, I

1821
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 3: don't think they have a game in mind.

1822
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 7: I don't think they do either. But I just, oh,

1823
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 7: yeah on week one, I think they've known all of camp.

1824
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 2: What my point was, if somebody, if one of you

1825
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 2: had said, well, you know, I think they were still

1826
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 2: debating it, you know, leading up to this last preseason game.

1827
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, then you got to start May.

1828
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 2: If there was any question. Absolutely, if there was any question,

1829
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 2: then you got to start May.

1830
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 7: Now that said, I thought percent looked fine the other night,

1831
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 7: you know, like I don't. I don't think the sack

1832
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 7: was again could have been a pre snap thing, so

1833
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 7: that would be on him.

1834
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 6: But like.

1835
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 7: Picked himself up in another couple of plays and threw

1836
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 7: one of the best balls he's thrown all of camp.

1837
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, Osborne. Yeah, and it was that offscript too, Like

1838
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 8: it wasn't it.

1839
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 2: I think we've got a pretty good backup in Jacoby Brissett.

1840
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1841
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 2: I agree, you know, let's leave it at that, except

1842
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: for starting, Well, my friend's kind of the irony in

1843
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 2: this statement. Erica is in Virginia. What's up? Erica?

1844
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 8: Hey?

1845
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 18: By Hey, guys, just better lost since I called in.

1846
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 18: I guess my question is mainly for Evan was go around.

1847
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 18: I just wanted to just get some clarification. Uh, I

1848
01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 18: wasn't gonna call in, but your first phone call us

1849
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 18: once be hung up, you had kind of mentioned and

1850
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 18: I may have been wrong, So please, I just again

1851
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 18: clarification and then I'll take it off the air. You

1852
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 18: mentioned that we might win four to five games under Jacoby,

1853
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 18: But what is it that you're seeing that we are

1854
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 18: seeing from I guess an outsider's point of view, because

1855
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 18: we haven't really seen him move the ball in entire years,

1856
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 18: you know what I'm saying. And then you put him

1857
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 18: up in against second and third stringers in preseason this

1858
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 18: year and he hasn't moved the ball, not one. And

1859
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 18: I get that the O line for the last five

1860
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,719
Speaker 18: years have been an issue, and I'm not saying start

1861
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 18: strict made one. I guess I just want to know

1862
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 18: what you're seeing that the rest of us aren't to

1863
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 18: where we're going to gain at least four to five

1864
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 18: games with Jacoby, and especially against the rivals of the Jets,

1865
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 18: and with that, I'll take.

1866
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 2: It off the air thinks yet, thanks Eric.

1867
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, I hadn't put a win total on it. I

1868
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 9: have no idea, but I was.

1869
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 5: Just saying, did they move the ball last year?

1870
01:21:59,040 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 4: No?

1871
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 5: In four games?

1872
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 3: Right, you're probably gonna bad.

1873
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 5: Teams win four games?

1874
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah.

1875
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 8: The only reason why Jacoby Brissett's starting is because Drake

1876
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 8: May is not ready or some combination of factors of

1877
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 8: the offensive line and all this other stuff we've been

1878
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 8: talking about. It's not because he's the better.

1879
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 7: I don't I don't think anybody's really been sort of

1880
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 7: trumpeting well, Brissette gives you, you know, a chance to

1881
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 7: move the ball and put points on the board, and

1882
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 7: we haven't seen that this summer now.

1883
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, Drake May gives you a better chance

1884
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 2: to win games because in this league there are times

1885
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 2: when the quarterback has to just make plays well, and

1886
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 2: who's better at doing that?

1887
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1888
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 2: No, From what the little what we've seen of Drake May,

1889
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 2: he's better doing that than Jacoby.

1890
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 3: He can move around, he's mobile. I mean, you know,

1891
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 3: he's not afraid to throw the ball on the move.

1892
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't think.

1893
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 7: I mean, this might be the biggest plus that I

1894
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 7: could say for Drake May playing is I don't think

1895
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 7: there's any difference in your record if he plays or

1896
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 7: Brissette plays. Not one's a nine year veteran, ones never

1897
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 7: played before. I don't really think it's gonna matter all

1898
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,719
Speaker 7: that much. And I think potentially, if it really hits,

1899
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:06,879
Speaker 7: you're gonna win more games.

1900
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,560
Speaker 2: With the r and he's gonna be more ready for

1901
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 2: year two.

1902
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 7: That's kind of what I want, is that, you know,

1903
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 7: And maybe I'm just being cranky and selfish, like I

1904
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 7: just want to accelerate the process.

1905
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 5: That's why I wanted to play as.

1906
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 2: Quickly as the best case scenario is. Other than like

1907
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 2: there's a miracle and they make the playoffs, the best

1908
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 2: case scenario is May plays really well, but they still

1909
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 2: only win two games, and then you have that high

1910
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 2: draft pick which you trade in stockpile picks, and you

1911
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 2: go into year two, spend a little money in free agency,

1912
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 2: and now you've got a team.

1913
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 7: You know, but you could do that, like I'm gonna

1914
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 7: go with Evans thing here, like why not win six

1915
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 7: or seven games with Drake May? And maybe your draft

1916
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 7: position isn't as high, but now you might be more

1917
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 7: attractive to the rest of the league. Yeah, in terms

1918
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 7: of being able to get players in there, I.

1919
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: Think that agents and players are smart enough to say,

1920
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 2: you know, Drake may played well last night, he's going If.

1921
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 7: You're two and fifteen, well, it depends on how it looks,

1922
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 7: but I would say it didn't look good.

1923
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 2: If you're two and fifteen, hard if you're losing twenty

1924
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 2: seven at thirty to twenty seven, do you think that.

1925
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 5: That's gonna happen.

1926
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you don't know, Like we're.

1927
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 7: Having a conversation. Yeah, and you throw Andy Hardism's at me,

1928
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 7: But like, what.

1929
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 2: If like the offense, Hey, compared to last year, this

1930
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 2: offense is light years better, they're still losing.

1931
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 7: And they're not going to go two and fifteen. If

1932
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 7: the offense is light years better, even I think more

1933
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 7: of the defense than that.

1934
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a it's a pickle, I know, but

1935
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 3: I think like it's really not like it like the

1936
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 3: pickle is that like the pickles that we didn't have

1937
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 3: a quarterback forre Like, now you have a quarterback and

1938
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 3: we're talking about how to manage him. I'd just say

1939
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 3: just from what I've seen in camp, that kid can

1940
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 3: throw the ball down the field. If I'm a receiver

1941
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 3: with speed looking at that kid and watching the ball

1942
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 3: go off Javon Baker's hands or going on, you know,

1943
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 3: Taekwon Thornton can't come down with it. I'm saying this

1944
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 3: is a this is an element of this offense that

1945
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 3: is waiting to happen.

1946
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 2: And if I'm that receiver, I'm like, yeah, I want

1947
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 2: to I couldn't be that person. Or if I'm a

1948
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 2: left tackle, yeah, I could be that guy that.

1949
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 3: You know, I think too. I mean it's and it's

1950
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 3: as much about the draft too, though. I mean that's,

1951
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 3: you know, sure a big part of it. But I

1952
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,560
Speaker 3: think with that receiver piece, if you do have to

1953
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 3: go to the well or not to go to free

1954
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,759
Speaker 3: agency and spend a lot of money, you know, it's

1955
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 3: it's harder to make that pitch. When you had a

1956
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 3: guy like Mac Jones where it was like, I mean,

1957
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 3: don't run more than thirty yards because he probably can't

1958
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 3: get it there, you know, fast enough. But this kid

1959
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 3: can get it there, you know, and and and and quick.

1960
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 3: And I mean that's just some of those throws that

1961
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 3: he made and granted we've been saying and we'll see

1962
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 3: how it looks in the regular season, because they've been

1963
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 3: close and even in camp one hundreds, like how many

1964
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 3: times do we say whoo? Like that one was completed,

1965
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 3: but it was close, and so is it. May's got

1966
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 3: a great arm and he's able to beat that is

1967
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 3: able to beat the number one cornerback on those kind

1968
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 3: of plays. We'll see how it does. But I just

1969
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 3: think watching his arm, it's it's it's exciting, and that's

1970
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 3: that's a special arm town, you know. That's what's exciting

1971
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 3: to me. We're gonna get to watch this kid no

1972
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 3: matter when gets in. I'm with you, guys, though I

1973
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 3: hope it's sooner than later.

1974
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it's you know, when they drafted Bledsoe, you

1975
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 2: looked at Bledsoe, It's like, what a cannon? You know,

1976
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 2: you got excited.

1977
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 3: Paul put his money down right there.

1978
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 2: He saw and.

1979
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 5: Talent.

1980
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the guy can hit all levels of

1981
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 2: the field.

1982
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 9: That's the only to have a guy like that.

1983
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 8: That's the one thing that I just putting our offensive

1984
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 8: coordinator hats on. Everything is on the call sheet. You

1985
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 8: can literally call anything with him in the game. You

1986
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 8: can call quarterback run, you can play under center, you

1987
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 8: can play out of a gun, you can throw it

1988
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 8: to every quadrant of the field. That's what makes those

1989
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 8: types of guys so enticing, Like that's what makes Josh

1990
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 8: Allen and Herbert you know, like Jordan love like these guys.

1991
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 8: There's no limitations. There's nothing that you can't do in

1992
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 8: terms of the routes that you run or what plays

1993
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 8: you design or whatever, and that that piece of it,

1994
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 8: as corps matches his arm.

1995
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 3: I mean, but the development that had, I mean, you know,

1996
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 3: the signs are all pointing in a positive direction. It'll

1997
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 3: hit a new level in the regular season. But I

1998
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 3: just love like this is just you know, fan deuced.

1999
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 3: But like you know, seeing the dan Orlovsky's of the world,

2000
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 3: they're seeing people be impressed by his talent, you know,

2001
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 3: and not feeling like, God, we got we got some

2002
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 3: limitations with our quarterback of the future. You know, it

2003
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 3: just doesn't feel like that right now. It just feels

2004
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,799
Speaker 3: like we got a gem. How do we best develop

2005
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 3: him and make sure that, you know, we put the

2006
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 3: pieces in place around him as quickly as possible, because

2007
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 3: you know, the clock is always ticking but there's some

2008
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 3: real talent there. It be fun to once he gets

2009
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 3: in there. But now we're gonna be in and we'll

2010
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 3: see when that.

2011
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 2: Shane in Springfield writes in I think May should play.

2012
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,759
Speaker 2: I tend to disagree with the notion that Jacoby should

2013
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 2: start over him due to his elevated knowledge at the line.

2014
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 2: Mahomes sat for a year with Andy Reid developing him,

2015
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 2: and Mahomes had stated multiple times he still couldn't read

2016
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 2: the defense as his whole second year once he finally

2017
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 2: started playing. Good point. If Andy Reid should have thought

2018
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 2: of it. If Andy Reid couldn't teach him Mahome that

2019
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 2: from the sidelines, then why do we push the narrative

2020
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 2: that Drake can do the same with his staff. Uh,

2021
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 2: he needs to play and learn the stuff. Enough of

2022
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 2: the bubble wrap, let's go. Oh yeah, I mean that

2023
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 2: That is a good point.

2024
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 3: I'm with him.

2025
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, would Mahomes have known it? Quicker course

2026
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 2: he would have. The answer is yes, He's.

2027
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 3: Thrown out so much right now, and I feel like

2028
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 3: Paul just needs to like press a button and be like,

2029
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 3: here's my response.

2030
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 5: I wish I wish I had thought of that.

2031
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 2: Argument I remember you specifically. People said, well, Mahomes, and

2032
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 2: I've heard you say in the radio, well, how do

2033
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 2: we know we wouldn't have been a.

2034
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,799
Speaker 3: Super boot that trademark, that's that's.

2035
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 7: He could have just been great as rookie year and

2036
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 7: then won the title his second year. You know, it's

2037
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 7: just been nothing is rookie year and just been great.

2038
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:54,560
Speaker 7: Not win the title is second one. He couldn't playing Fantasyland.

2039
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 7: I'm going to give him another title if he plays.

2040
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, if you're a Kansas

2041
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 2: City Chiefs fan, you don't care. It's like everything worked out.

2042
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 2: But like to prove a point about starting verus nuts starting,

2043
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 2: that's not a legitimate argument.

2044
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 15: Yeah.

2045
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 3: Well, and now it's like kind of like oh six

2046
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 3: was for the Patriots, where you're like, eh, we could

2047
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 3: we could.

2048
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 11: Have gotten another one.

2049
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 7: But it's like Brady, you know, look, look Brady sat

2050
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 7: Like Brady was the one hundred and ninety ninth pick

2051
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,640
Speaker 7: of the draft, was kept as the fourth quarterback, and

2052
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 7: then didn't play until the year two. Like that's not

2053
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:25,759
Speaker 7: the same as deciding whether or not the third overall

2054
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 7: pick should play right away.

2055
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, And it's really not the same for Jordan Love

2056
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 8: either who was sitting behind Rogers was picked up. What

2057
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 8: twenty sixth I want to say or something like that.

2058
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 8: But even though it's a preseason and the defenses will

2059
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 8: get more exotic and more creative, he makes pretty good

2060
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 8: decisions with the ball for the most part. Like there's

2061
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 8: some times where I, you know, he think gets a

2062
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 8: little aggressive, but I kind of like that, like have

2063
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:50,640
Speaker 8: some arrogance, like you gotta can.

2064
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,640
Speaker 2: And in this year, if he plays a lot, I

2065
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 2: don't care if he has a lot of interceptions. Yeah,

2066
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 2: as long as the ball's going where it was intended.

2067
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 7: You know, and it's not the same kind of play, yeah,

2068
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 7: you know, Like that's what frustrated with mac Jones. Mac

2069
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 7: Jones didn't throw a lot of interceptions, but he threw

2070
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 7: a lot of the same kind of interceptions. Yeah, you know,

2071
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 7: the sort of moving and no business throw going one

2072
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 7: way throwing the other. I must have seen that one

2073
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 7: five times three years as the starter.

2074
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 2: That's that's his game.

2075
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,759
Speaker 5: He never seemed to learn from his mistakes.

2076
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 3: Seam throws never got better.

2077
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 2: Justina is in North Carolina. What's what's up, Justina?

2078
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 5: Hi?

2079
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 20: My question is, well, I'm Tario graduate of course. So

2080
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 20: I've been watching May and now I'm a new New

2081
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:42,640
Speaker 20: England New England saying, but I think the issue to

2082
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:47,600
Speaker 20: me is a BP is definite. Oh, Jacoby's going to

2083
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 20: start and May I's like, well, you know, we don't know.

2084
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 20: I think they made Jacoby's some promises and they don't

2085
01:30:56,200 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 20: want to back back up on that. And I think

2086
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:04,560
Speaker 20: it's not it's not an issue as whether he's more experienced.

2087
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 20: I think they're just using that as an ascute you know.

2088
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 20: As far as May's arm and everything. I think if

2089
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 20: he if he does, he has to be in the

2090
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:19,719
Speaker 20: game before he could even self correct.

2091
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 4: You know.

2092
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 20: If he gets in there, he's smart enough, he knows

2093
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 20: what his problem is. He's just self correct. I think

2094
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 20: he should be playing. And I don't think. I don't

2095
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 20: buy that that Jakobe is more experienced and he's going

2096
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 20: to help him, you know, along the way, And I

2097
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 20: think that makes it's more talented. He's just more talented

2098
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 20: than Kobe. He has experience, but made it's more talented

2099
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 20: seing him adjust in things when he was at North Carolina.

2100
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 20: I think he'll justin pros as well.

2101
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 2: Thanks Justin.

2102
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 9: Justina knows Ball.

2103
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 2: I'm not ruling out that they might have made promises

2104
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,560
Speaker 2: to Jacoby, but if they did, shame on that.

2105
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 9: Oh yeah yeah, I mean, well, I I agree with

2106
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 9: that to an extent, though I.

2107
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 5: Think there could be some truth.

2108
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wrong. They shouldn't have done that.

2109
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2110
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 9: I also feel like there's no doubt that Mayo and

2111
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 9: a VP are at odds about this like that.

2112
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 8: That to me, I think is is clear that that's

2113
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:20,759
Speaker 8: at odds or just Mayo's not sure yet at odds.

2114
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 8: But I don't mean that as like hostile, Like I

2115
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,879
Speaker 8: know it sounds hot like they're in these big arguments

2116
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:27,480
Speaker 8: and jul Stadium.

2117
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,719
Speaker 5: But maybe they're not seeing it the same way, seeing

2118
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 5: eye to eye.

2119
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 8: On this, because I think Mayo is a former player

2120
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 8: on defense that's looking at this and saying, I wouldn't

2121
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 8: want to have to face Drake like this is this

2122
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 8: is way harder than going up against Zakobe or I

2123
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 8: would want to go to battle with the more talented guy,

2124
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 8: whereas a VP is like, let's let's calm you know,

2125
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 8: let's calm down and let's.

2126
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 9: Be patient with this.

2127
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 8: Their their answers are totally different. I mean, Drake, is

2128
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 8: you know out playing Jacoby, he's made, he's pushing. It's

2129
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 8: a competitionby's our starter. He does X, Y and Z

2130
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 8: better you know than Drake does right now, Like it's

2131
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 8: they're saying two different things. So I don't know how

2132
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 8: you can look at it and say that they're not

2133
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 8: a little bit in disagreement about what's going on.

2134
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 3: This is gonna get tedious like into the season because

2135
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 3: they're probably not going to win a lot of games

2136
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 3: and we're just gonna probably stay on this whole Drake.

2137
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 5: That this is going to be a topic until May play.

2138
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,679
Speaker 7: Oh god, yes, yeah, I mean I think it even

2139
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 7: if they, like surprised some in won a few games,

2140
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 7: I think it would remain a topic until May plays.

2141
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 3: Driving like the topic, the topic of the team.

2142
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 5: But isn't that what this like? What else are you

2143
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 5: like truly invested in right now?

2144
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 3: When it comes to the Patriots, that's every conversation we have,

2145
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 3: it's Drake May, that's the that's the piece.

2146
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:51,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I thought, you know, it's the whole thing,

2147
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 8: right Like Polk I think looked pretty good in the

2148
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 8: game the other night too, And you know, maybe those

2149
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 8: two guys are going to be what we thought, you know,

2150
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 8: we're getting ahead of ourselves. But you know that would

2151
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 8: be exciting too. But other than that, it's it's just

2152
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 8: Drake May and and he's the only real beacon of

2153
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 8: hope that they have.

2154
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 3: Do you think it's like once May gets in there,

2155
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 3: then it's the deluge of all the different problems, like

2156
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 3: are we going to be talking about the lack of

2157
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 3: an X receiver or you know the problems that left

2158
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 3: tackle like or do you think that those things are

2159
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 3: going to be overshadowed then once May gets in, Now

2160
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 3: those are the problems in the spotlight, you know, like

2161
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 3: those are the next big steps They got to figure

2162
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 3: out how.

2163
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 5: To you know, local media, you know, a gender driven media.

2164
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 2: So will there be second once May starts winning? I mean,

2165
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 2: once May started receiver, let's just let's just say they're

2166
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,719
Speaker 2: still not that good, you know, you know, be reasonable.

2167
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:49,560
Speaker 2: He goes in and there's still not one of the

2168
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 2: better teams in the league, meaning they're not winning. Will

2169
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 2: there be factions of blame it on May or it's

2170
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 2: everything around me? Will there be what do you.

2171
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 5: Think, blame it on everything around him?

2172
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 9: A year two, if it's still not better, then it will.

2173
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 7: Be well, that's different, like and you know that happened

2174
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,600
Speaker 7: to Bledsoe, and I was as I'm as big a

2175
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 7: Drew supporter as that was Pat No. But like when

2176
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 7: it started, it was like, this guy's great. This guy, Yeah,

2177
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,280
Speaker 7: he makes some mistakes, he tore some some you know,

2178
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 7: ill timed interception, but man, he making all these plays

2179
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 7: and he doesn't really have a lot to work with.

2180
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 7: And then all of a sudden, like you know, you

2181
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,640
Speaker 7: get him Terry Glenn and Sean Jefferson and you know

2182
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 7: that Curtis Martin is really good, and then it's like

2183
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 7: you for, yeah, we get bled So I told you,

2184
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 7: if we just got these pieces around him, you go

2185
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 7: to the Super Bowl and then ninety seven comes and

2186
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 7: it's kind of like the same, and ninety eight comes,

2187
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 7: it's kind of and it was because all of a

2188
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 7: sudden it became maybe he ain't about the weapons. Maybe

2189
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 7: he's just he's just really good. He's not great, and

2190
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 7: he's never going to make that ascension to great. Yeah,

2191
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 7: you know, but it took a long time. And again,

2192
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 7: I'm the biggest Drew supporter ever, and I'm recognizing that

2193
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 7: we probably didn't look at Drew as enough along the

2194
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,679
Speaker 7: way until it was really apparent that Drew was part

2195
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 7: of the problem, never like as much of the problem

2196
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 7: as it was made out to be. But yeah, initially

2197
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 7: everybody's gonna be like, well, we don't know, what do

2198
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 7: you expect.

2199
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 9: He doesn't have a left tackle number one.

2200
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 5: He's got no protection, he's got no receivers that can separate,

2201
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 5: you know.

2202
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll just be like, I mean, yeah, he had

2203
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 3: those three interceptions, but those four throws he had was crazy, you.

2204
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,680
Speaker 5: Know, like that running made to the left, and you know,

2205
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:29,640
Speaker 5: you know, we knew he wasn't ready.

2206
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 6: Arm.

2207
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Emery writes in I have a question for the

2208
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 2: if May is ready, he should play crowd Hypothetically, if

2209
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 2: a bunch of injuries happened over the next two weeks,

2210
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 2: and our line for week one was Anderson, Jordan, Leverett,

2211
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 2: Mafi and corfor would you still say May should play

2212
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 2: if he's ready? Do you truly believe the offensive line

2213
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 2: should have zero bearing on the QB decision?

2214
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 5: I think I'm the only one that says that.

2215
01:36:56,000 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 8: I don't say zero bearing, but I've been saying it

2216
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:04,719
Speaker 8: since they drafted him. You're not talking about a sitting

2217
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 8: duck in the pocket. Here, you're talking about a six

2218
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:11,919
Speaker 8: foot four two and twenty five pound athlete who manages

2219
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 8: the pocket very very well and can get out of

2220
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 8: the pocket and get out of dodge when.

2221
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 9: He needs to.

2222
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 8: I until he starts to look rattled by pressure, which

2223
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 8: he hasn't in the preseason, by the way, and there

2224
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 8: has been some pressure, and he's pretty poised and comfortable

2225
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 8: back there. I just don't think it's as glaring of

2226
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 8: a of a factor, I guess, but no one's saying

2227
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 8: that it's zero factor.

2228
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 5: Just me.

2229
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 7: I'm the only one that says, like, the quarterback can

2230
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:42,679
Speaker 7: learn behind about offensive line.

2231
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 5: I've seen it. It's mean a lot of examples of it.

2232
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 2: Brian from New Jersey says, my logic is the fact

2233
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 2: that they cut Zappi May as the starter since they'll

2234
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:56,640
Speaker 2: be in trouble if Brissette gets hurt early on. So

2235
01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 2: in other words, because we talked about, you know, some

2236
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 2: people were talking about do.

2237
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 5: You keep Zappy if you don't want to play May?

2238
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 2: If you don't want to play May.

2239
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 5: So to me, it just tells me that that's right. Yeah,

2240
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:11,679
Speaker 5: those things have nothing to do with each other. Yeah,

2241
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:13,639
Speaker 5: you're right, all right, now.

2242
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 7: Gerard had a funny comment the other night about that

2243
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 7: second quarterback off the Phil Perry.

2244
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 5: Exchange will you win the post game?

2245
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 7: I was did you think that was a little hord

2246
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 7: when he wasn't really even willing to say he was

2247
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 7: the second best quarterback?

2248
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 8: Well, Drake, he said, Drake may is the second best quarterback.

2249
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 8: I would He didn't commit.

2250
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 5: I would like to think, I would like to say,

2251
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 5: is what he said, and then he was asked to

2252
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 5: fall up. Is that a yes? Next question?

2253
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, we were talking about this a little bit off there,

2254
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 8: but that was the first time that I saw that

2255
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 8: a little bit.

2256
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 5: Uh.

2257
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 9: I don't know what the right word is, just like.

2258
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 2: Tense.

2259
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 5: So this is why they make so much money? Yeah, yeah,

2260
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,679
Speaker 5: and it was hard. It was a tough situation for Yeah.

2261
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 8: I don't necessarily think it was the line of questioning. Fully,

2262
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 8: I think that he thought that they didn't play very well.

2263
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 5: Tough performance.

2264
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, and uh.

2265
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 2: Market a point. Yeah, it's so bad, I don't even

2266
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 2: want to talk.

2267
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 9: He seemed pretty frustrated.

2268
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 5: It should have looked a lot better than that in

2269
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:11,799
Speaker 5: the first half. Can we all agree?

2270
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2271
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:15,679
Speaker 5: I mean, what was it thirty how many thirty five?

2272
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 7: Players didn't dress for washing for Washington, right, and you

2273
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 7: really didn't push them around like you should have. Dominated

2274
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 7: you had enough for you. The patriot didn't play all

2275
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 7: their starters either. Before I know that that's been sort

2276
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 7: of you know your starters again, the Patriots didn't play

2277
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,639
Speaker 7: all their starters. I think plenty of guys didn't.

2278
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 2: Play the second series. There were only a couple guys

2279
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 2: that might start.

2280
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 5: But they should have been pushing people around and they weren't. Yeah,

2281
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 5: that's two weeks in a row.

2282
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 3: Backup lineman getting pushed around, you know, backup defensive line.

2283
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 3: I just gotta say. One funny thing, though, is when

2284
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:48,680
Speaker 3: we heard the next question, I was like, oh, I

2285
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 3: haven't heard that in a while. And then Paul's like,

2286
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 3: I've heard I throw back. They'll throw back to Drew Bledsoe,

2287
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 3: that's question.

2288
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 2: Uh, Jack writes in Plunkett got pummeled because he had

2289
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 2: no O line. He got hurt. Same thing will happen

2290
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 2: to may fix the line before starting him.

2291
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 9: Well then we're gonna be here for now.

2292
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 3: I just don't even know.

2293
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 5: I know, and as much as scream of Patriots media guy, no,

2294
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 5: not that I can say.

2295
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 3: What do you need you should put it on our coffee.

2296
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 2: I know everything. What do you need to know? Oh? There?

2297
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 2: They are like, oh that's right there?

2298
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 15: What what?

2299
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 4: What?

2300
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 7: What so much Jim plunk like the Jim Plunkett thing

2301
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 7: like Tony Mas is me like crawls up my tailpipe? Okay,

2302
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 7: Like yeah, you know what. Jim Plunkett was a Heisman

2303
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 7: Trophy winner and I'm more on overall pick. He's a

2304
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 7: really athletic kid coming out of Stanford. It was but

2305
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 7: way before my time to watch the you know, the

2306
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 7: real details. It was way before my time. I never

2307
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:42,759
Speaker 7: saw Jim Plunkett play a game as a Patriots quarterback,

2308
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 7: Like I wasn't old enough to understand know when he

2309
01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 7: was the quarterback. By year three, they had drafted John Hannah,

2310
01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 7: who people think is the greatest offensive lineman ever. So

2311
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 7: seventy one, seventy two, seventy three, your first round pick

2312
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 7: is John Hannah and it still didn't work and by

2313
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 7: seventy six you had to trade him. So was it

2314
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 7: because he like he just wasn't as good as everybody thought,

2315
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 7: or did he get beat up and he.

2316
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 5: Just can't play? Like that offensive line turned into one

2317
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 5: of the greatest offensive lines in the history of football

2318
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 5: with John Hannah as the as the main cog. Bill

2319
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 5: Lenkitis was part of those offensive line.

2320
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 2: It didn't ruin Jim Plunkett. He went on to Oakland

2321
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 2: and had a pretty good career.

2322
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, by handing the ball off and watching Marcus Allen

2323
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 5: run seventy five yards. Everybody thinks that like this through

2324
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 5: magic epiphany. No they didn't.

2325
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 7: This magic epiphany happened twelve years after he left New

2326
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 7: England and he was handing the ball off and winning

2327
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:41,680
Speaker 7: titles behind a great program with the Raiders. Like, I

2328
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 7: don't know, maybe Jim Plunkett would have been better if

2329
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 7: he had more around him in seventy one.

2330
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 5: I would grant that.

2331
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:49,520
Speaker 2: I would admit that Fred Blitnakoff.

2332
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 5: Fred Bolittnakoff, Yeah, how many passes Jim Plunkett throw to him?

2333
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:54,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. They didn't play together.

2334
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:58,760
Speaker 7: No, they probably did, but like Cliff Branch and Fred

2335
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 7: Blittnikoff weren't what they were when Ken Stabler.

2336
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 5: Was the quarterback Rails time. I just like the whole

2337
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:13,679
Speaker 5: Jim Puckett got killed in New England thing, like, yeah,

2338
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 5: I guess you know, I guess he did I know

2339
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 5: that's the that's the common refrain, but that doesn't mean

2340
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:19,599
Speaker 5: it was accurate.

2341
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 3: No, But do you know what I mean?

2342
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:23,480
Speaker 2: No, but Pluckett was a good quarterback.

2343
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 5: He was the number one overall pick. Of course he

2344
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 5: was good.

2345
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 2: I mean like when he went to the Raiders he

2346
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 2: turned out to be.

2347
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 5: Why didn't he play any good in San Francisco?

2348
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:32,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2349
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 5: So if you're really good, you're good, like I don't know.

2350
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 5: But but a couple of years later in Oakland he

2351
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 5: was really good. He wasn't really good, he was. He

2352
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 5: was kind of a game manager in Oakland. They want

2353
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 5: they won a couple of titles, pretty good. They won

2354
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 5: a couple of titles with him, And people think that

2355
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 5: he was great. He wasn't.

2356
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 8: I want to hear Fred blinkoff Antonio Brown. The other

2357
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 8: day there was like a ranking of the top ten

2358
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 8: receivers of all time, and he was like eighth and

2359
01:42:58,080 --> 01:42:59,560
Speaker 8: Don Hudson was seventh.

2360
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 9: And he was like, the hell is Don Hudson?

2361
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:05,560
Speaker 7: Like it's actually Don Hudson had one hundred touchdown receptions

2362
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:07,719
Speaker 7: in an era when they didn't even throw one hundred

2363
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 7: pass I know I know who is because Bill Belichick

2364
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 7: used to teach just who he was and with Antonio Brown, Yeah,

2365
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,640
Speaker 7: like do Don Hudson in your own I was gonna say.

2366
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,520
Speaker 3: One interesting thing to me, though, is you know, Cincinnati

2367
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 3: a lot of problems on their line with Burrow. It's

2368
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 3: been a big talking point how bad.

2369
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 5: Ye yahook year.

2370
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 9: But but they've had a super Bowl year too, and.

2371
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 3: Even this year, Like they signed Trump Brown, they draft Mims,

2372
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 3: they signed who the other guy left tackle? Like you know,

2373
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:37,639
Speaker 3: it's it's not like everything will be fine, Like there's

2374
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 3: always problems. You're always trying to figure it out. And

2375
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 3: like the offensive line is five guys, like it's never gonna.

2376
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 5: Be per first offensive line in football lost in the Super.

2377
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:48,759
Speaker 9: Bowl the outside Jamar Chase and t Hagen.

2378
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 7: But whatever, This is my point, Like this is not

2379
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 7: necessarily related to Drake may. This is like it's not

2380
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 7: a catch all. If you're behind an offensive line, I

2381
01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 7: means you can't play. Like, if you're good, you're gonna

2382
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:02,799
Speaker 7: find a way to make plays and you'll show enough.

2383
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 9: Of how good you can be.

2384
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 2: And if your coaches are good, you figure out how

2385
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 2: to you know, Yeah.

2386
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 7: Especially now the way they do it, the ball comes

2387
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 7: out so quick, like at least with Jim Plunkett, the

2388
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 7: people that you know, it was a different time. He

2389
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:18,600
Speaker 7: was probably you know, in a lot of bad situations,

2390
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 7: losing and having to throw and maybe he got killed.

2391
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 5: Like again, I never saw any games.

2392
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 8: I mean there were still seven steps dropping from under

2393
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 8: center when Jim Punktt.

2394
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 5: Was That's what I'm saying. You get to snap the

2395
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 5: balls out like.

2396
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 3: A Burrow. And Burrow's done what he's done in those situations.

2397
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:39,599
Speaker 7: But his acl as a rookie because you put him

2398
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 7: behind a bat off its linemark. I don't know if

2399
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 7: you know, I don't know if you've heard that story.

2400
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 3: No, it's just it's it's it's always a struggle, like

2401
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 3: you can you know, draft what Kelvin Bankster Will Campbell

2402
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 3: next year? And like, okay, it doesn't mean that all

2403
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 3: right now, it's.

2404
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 9: Well they draft Will Campbell will be done? Like that guy,

2405
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 9: Let's go to.

2406
01:44:54,000 --> 01:45:03,360
Speaker 2: Adam in California? What's up Adam, Adam calif for Kendall

2407
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 2: in North Carolina?

2408
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 3: What's up?

2409
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 2: Kendall roasted?

2410
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 21: Hey, what's going on?

2411
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 12: Hey?

2412
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 21: I got a question. If the plan this year isn't

2413
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 21: about winning, man, they probably not going to play because

2414
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:18,800
Speaker 21: it doesn't allow how are we going to creatos next year?

2415
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:20,720
Speaker 21: I mean, you're probably just gonna get passed on, like

2416
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:24,680
Speaker 21: you know how good you did? How we how do

2417
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 21: we just get gregeous look be able to make syear

2418
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 21: if we're not trying to win this year, may at

2419
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 21: it because it offers.

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01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I've been on that. I mean, I feel like

2421
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 8: that's my whole point. And I but Drake will play

2422
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:41,720
Speaker 8: eventually this year. I think we're all in agreement on that.

2423
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:44,680
Speaker 8: So hopefully he shows some flashes, you know, whenever he

2424
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 8: does get into the game. But that is a factory.

2425
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 8: He needs to show something to showcase himself. Because it's

2426
01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 8: true a lot of these receivers in free agency are

2427
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 8: at least in part turning them down because they don't

2428
01:45:57,479 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 8: have a quarterback.

2429
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:00,759
Speaker 9: And maybe they do have a quarterback.

2430
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 8: Now it almost feels like I'm worried about everything else

2431
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 8: besides the quarterback.

2432
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 15: Now.

2433
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 2: It's very odd, but that's kind of a good problem, right,

2434
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 2: because it's harder to fix other things as long as

2435
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:16,600
Speaker 2: we're right right right, Jordan and Hawaii, I have a hypothetical.

2436
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,600
Speaker 2: I know it's hard to speculate, but knowing what you

2437
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 2: know now about this team. If you were Elliott Wolf

2438
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:25,679
Speaker 2: and you could go back in time to the draft

2439
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 2: and trade all the picks you have to get up

2440
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 2: in the draft and take would you do that to

2441
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 2: get a premium tackle or option B? Would you not

2442
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 2: have taken Drake May and instead got that tackle? Just curious?

2443
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,200
Speaker 2: Would you go back you.

2444
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 7: Got to take And so we're saying take May and

2445
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 7: then take all the rest of them and get a

2446
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 7: left tackle.

2447
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 2: Yes, so take May but forfeit all the other picks

2448
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:53,280
Speaker 2: for a premium left tackle.

2449
01:46:53,479 --> 01:46:56,760
Speaker 9: Well that I mean, it's not very realistic. This is

2450
01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 9: not draft day.

2451
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:03,759
Speaker 8: But yeah, I definitely here in the argument of they

2452
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:06,759
Speaker 8: had some trades, it seems like some talks about getting

2453
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 8: back into the end of the first round. Some people

2454
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 8: had speculated it was for one of the receivers. Others

2455
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 8: had speculated it was for Tyler Guyton, who ended up

2456
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 8: getting drafted by Dallas, who plays tackle. If they I

2457
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 8: don't we don't know what the packages were that were

2458
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:24,800
Speaker 8: being offered. But if let's say they had an offer

2459
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 8: on the table for like a second in their fourth

2460
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:29,360
Speaker 8: round pick this year, maybe in pick into next year,

2461
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:31,679
Speaker 8: do I now feel like it's fair to second guess

2462
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:33,640
Speaker 8: that they didn't pull the trigger on that trade. I

2463
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 8: would say probably yes, But at the same time, like

2464
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 8: Tyler Guyton could be out here and maybe he's not ready.

2465
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 9: And it's not you know, he's a rookie too, he's

2466
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 9: up and down. Yeah, and it's a late first round pick,

2467
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:44,719
Speaker 9: so you know, that would.

2468
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 7: Have been in favor of that if they could have

2469
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 7: made a trade like like Evan just explained, Yeah, that

2470
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 7: would I would have taken a left tackle at the

2471
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 7: end of the first round if they could have done that.

2472
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2473
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 8: That's the second guess of the draft to me is

2474
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 8: that the tackle parade kind of went by and they

2475
01:47:57,439 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 8: watched it good.

2476
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 2: Who's to say they didn't try, you know, yeah, you

2477
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 2: know you just said yeah. David Bethlehem, Uh three points.

2478
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:10,559
Speaker 2: He says, yes, always flush floaters, be considerate and leave

2479
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 2: the seed if women use it.

2480
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 3: Thank you.

2481
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:16,640
Speaker 5: Fred still doesn't get that.

2482
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 2: I do now. Uh Mao's comment about Jacoby's body of

2483
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 2: work is misleading. Uh Mayo, Van Pelt, and McAdoo are

2484
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 2: loath to admit their strategy failed. Briseets knowledge of a

2485
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 2: playbook that he and the Old Line poorly execute is wrong.

2486
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 2: Brissett's body of past work does not indicate his present performance.

2487
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:40,679
Speaker 8: I understand the part about it their plan being wrong.

2488
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 8: There they drafted Drake May and it looks like it's

2489
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 8: going pretty well.

2490
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 2: I think maybe he thinks that their strategy is they

2491
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 2: knew from day one they were going to start per set.

2492
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, well, I think that's a point, though

2493
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 3: he could debate of you know, should May have gotten

2494
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:58,599
Speaker 3: more opportunities, and part just to play with the ones

2495
01:48:58,640 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 3: and play behind the top line.

2496
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 2: Heart that his third point is May has progressed faster

2497
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 2: than projected. On what planet does the team deliberately choose

2498
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 2: to play an obviously less talented player. The real unspoken

2499
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:15,080
Speaker 2: reason Colon Pat's schedule is very hard and there is

2500
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:17,680
Speaker 2: a chance he could get injured, So Brissett could get

2501
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:20,679
Speaker 2: injured first, May and Milton will have to be mobile

2502
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:24,040
Speaker 2: run for their lives. Coaching and play schemes for sedentary

2503
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:27,840
Speaker 2: Brissett are much different than for mobile May Milton. I'm

2504
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 2: afraid that AVP squandered the preseason.

2505
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 8: So just to go back, I'm sorry, I'm not trying

2506
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 8: to attack the emailer, but go ahead. He said that

2507
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 8: the that there's never been a quarterback that's been more

2508
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 8: talented that sat Tyrod Taylor started the season for the

2509
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 8: Chargers over Justin Herbert, right, Like, there's no doubt in

2510
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:50,640
Speaker 8: anybody's mind that Justin Herbert is a better quarterback and

2511
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 8: more talented than Tyrod Taylor was. But they were in

2512
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:55,440
Speaker 8: a similar position as the Patriots.

2513
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 5: Are in now where Patrick Mahomes and Alex Smith.

2514
01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, Patrick Mahomes Alex Smith a good one. Nathan Peterman

2515
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:04,760
Speaker 8: started over Josh Allen in Buffalo.

2516
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:05,799
Speaker 5: Like, there's a lot of situation.

2517
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 7: I mean, if you wanted to really be like a jerk,

2518
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 7: and I understand this is the Andy Hart to the

2519
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:13,639
Speaker 7: nth degree example, do it? Could you make an argument

2520
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 7: that Jimmy Garoppolo has more talent than John Brady?

2521
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:17,719
Speaker 11: I would.

2522
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo is more talent physically talented than Tom Brady.

2523
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:22,920
Speaker 5: Yes, I would.

2524
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 7: Now, where it gets blown out of the water is

2525
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 7: everything else that is required of a quarterback. There was

2526
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:32,800
Speaker 7: nobody better than Tom Brady. But from a physical just

2527
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 7: a physical skill set standpoint, Garoppolo had a better release,

2528
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 7: he moved better in the pocket, he was a better athlete,

2529
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 7: didn't matter he wasn't anywhere near the quarterback that Tom

2530
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:46,439
Speaker 7: Brady was. That's not what we're talking about here with

2531
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 7: Brissett in May. But I'm just saying, like, let's not

2532
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 7: use terms like why would you ever start the lesser

2533
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 7: talented guy. If you thought to let the lesser talented

2534
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 7: guy was more prepared to run your offense, you'd start him.

2535
01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:00,120
Speaker 7: Like That's why now I don't agree with him. I

2536
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 7: think May is perfectly ready based on admittedly, you know,

2537
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 7: three weeks of training camp. That's what I'm basing on.

2538
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 7: That's all I have, so the only data I have.

2539
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:14,439
Speaker 5: I think he looks like he's ready enough to play,

2540
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 5: and he's so far advanced from a skill set set

2541
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 5: standpoint that to me, it's not even close.

2542
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:25,160
Speaker 2: Dylan writes in I know everyone is upset about the offense,

2543
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:27,639
Speaker 2: mainly the old line, but I just want to say

2544
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:30,720
Speaker 2: nothing in football matters that much if you don't have

2545
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:33,719
Speaker 2: a top five ish quarterback. That's what it's all about.

2546
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 2: The old line and weapons aren't impossible to get. I'm

2547
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 2: no quarterback girl, but I grew up playing quarterback my

2548
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 2: whole life, played some college and come from a family

2549
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 2: of quarterback coaches. Drake May looks good. He really does.

2550
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:50,639
Speaker 2: I don't know how good he'll be, but I knew

2551
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 2: right away the last guy wasn't going to be in

2552
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:57,080
Speaker 2: that category, and this guy might be. And that's what

2553
01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:00,599
Speaker 2: everyone should be excited about. Drake May is my favorite

2554
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:03,599
Speaker 2: type of quarterback, the guy who can throw it. There's

2555
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 2: too many quarterbacks out there now that can seemingly do

2556
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 2: everything else and they're throwing. Isn't their best ability. Give

2557
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 2: me the big athletic guy who has a good arm

2558
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 2: and we can work on the footwork and other stuff.

2559
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:17,719
Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch Drake develop.

2560
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:18,839
Speaker 3: Amen.

2561
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 9: I agree with everything besides the running thing.

2562
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:26,320
Speaker 2: But he comes from a quarterback family, yeah, and coaches what.

2563
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:27,959
Speaker 3: Was his name, Kyle Shanahan.

2564
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:32,639
Speaker 2: This guy Brian becomes from the Gagney family.

2565
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:35,600
Speaker 5: The Gagney family, Okay, I'm familiar with that.

2566
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 2: Fani, you know you don't run across them.

2567
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 3: And Everett, No, No, he's not from evert someone know

2568
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:45,479
Speaker 3: that he would if a KB guru lived in every

2569
01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:46,639
Speaker 3: Paul would probably.

2570
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:49,679
Speaker 5: That means I would have worked very happy.

2571
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 9: People are starting to come around.

2572
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 5: Power I right, twenty two lead. It's on one.

2573
01:52:56,840 --> 01:53:00,160
Speaker 3: On you ever throw the first sound in there, just

2574
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:00,560
Speaker 3: to keep me.

2575
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:02,760
Speaker 7: The first sound was only short yard and yeah, and

2576
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 7: usually that was when I got my head kicked out.

2577
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:06,640
Speaker 5: On the quarterback sneak What hold did that? It was

2578
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 5: not Tom Brady when it came to quarterbacks sneak?

2579
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 2: What hold did that?

2580
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 11: Play? Go through?

2581
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 2: Left or right?

2582
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 5: Thirty two power? I right twenty two lead would be

2583
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 5: on the left side, left side?

2584
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:18,719
Speaker 2: Which hole? Big gap, the big gap, the big gap. Okay,

2585
01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:23,679
Speaker 2: so you numbers and letters three, I like numbers better.

2586
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 5: Number went on even it was two four six eight

2587
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 5: three yeah, three five seven n yeah, I like better.

2588
01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 5: The even left right three technique.

2589
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:35,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love my playbook. That was one of my

2590
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:37,719
Speaker 3: most favorite parts when I played freshman football was getting

2591
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 3: my helmet. Of course we know that, and my playbook

2592
01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 3: and I the first, you know, first day of the

2593
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:45,719
Speaker 3: coach asked the question I knew, and then you play

2594
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 3: this guy get to play. Yeah, well it's like thirty

2595
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 3: two dives the same thing. You know, it's like all right,

2596
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:52,760
Speaker 3: half back through you know, the big gap, like you know,

2597
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:55,439
Speaker 3: but you could tell who studied their playbook and I

2598
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:56,320
Speaker 3: did because I liked.

2599
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 2: Jay and Minnesota rights in seeing how much Drake has

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01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 2: improved so far. Do you think that him not starting

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01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:06,719
Speaker 2: week one might slow down his progress? We've talked about

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01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 2: this at finitem. We all know that playing football makes

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01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 2: you better at football. I'm hoping they realize he seems

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01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 2: to be picking up on his mistakes and getting better

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01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 2: at his mechanics. I think it's easier for him to

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01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:23,640
Speaker 2: tweak his throwing motion if he's playing early and realizing

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01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:25,920
Speaker 2: he can't pump and needs to bring the ball up.

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01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,679
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that could all be true.

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01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 8: It is the fear that you have is that it's

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01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:32,720
Speaker 8: going to lead to mistakes, which is going to shoot

2611
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 8: his confidence down right like that. That's what we're all

2612
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:36,960
Speaker 8: worried about when it comes to these types of things.

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01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:39,400
Speaker 8: But we had to call her. That was called in

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01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 8: about you know, said that he's this pretty smart kid,

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01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 8: and we were talking to TC McCartney. One thing that

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01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 8: he pointed out was that when Drake May comes off

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01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 8: the field and him and Van Pelt asked him, hey,

2618
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 8: what were you seeing out there? His recollection of the

2619
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:57,080
Speaker 8: coverages is like spot on.

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01:54:57,320 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 2: Is that documented what you're saying right now? Or that something?

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01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:01,640
Speaker 2: What did you hear that?

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01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:02,600
Speaker 9: Yeah?

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01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's probably in what we have somewhere and uh

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01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:09,680
Speaker 8: and he said that, you know, he comes off the

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01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 8: field and he's like just like this, like they were

2626
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 8: in this coverage. They were this is what happened, this

2627
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:15,840
Speaker 8: is why I did this, This.

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01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 2: Is what that's what you want what I want to hear.

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01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what we heard about young Tom Brady.

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01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, that's why I want to hear it memory.

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01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:27,640
Speaker 8: And I had asked him about in the press conference.

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01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 8: I had asked him about a play and about the

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01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 8: broken play that you threw to kJ Osborne and uh,

2634
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 8: he called it a cloud coverage and he knew exactly

2635
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 8: what they and I turned on the film the next

2636
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 8: day and sure enough, there there was. I was like

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01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 8: that he didn't even he didn't see the replay, Like

2638
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:46,360
Speaker 8: he doesn't, you know, he's not looking at it back.

2639
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 9: It's pretty impressive.

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01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:50,680
Speaker 3: It's all appear still trapped.

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01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 2: Play may play may right.

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01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 9: I mean, I've been there since April.

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01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:56,160
Speaker 2: All right, so what do we got the rest of

2644
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 2: the day cuts the becoming well, you know, finalize them

2645
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:02,680
Speaker 2: and we'll make them official on Patriots dot Com when

2646
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 2: they happen. So far, you know, Bailey Zappi, I think

2647
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 2: was the big news today Ryland Land. If Kevin Harris

2648
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 2: is true to me, that's a mild surprise, you know.

2649
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 2: But again we'll we'll get that official at some point

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01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:23,680
Speaker 2: this evening. Catch twenty two. What's the schedule for this week?

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01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:27,160
Speaker 9: Thursday afternoon, Thursday afternoon? What time, probably.

2652
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 2: Thirty is Catch twenty two on playbook Thursday?

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01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:34,440
Speaker 5: They have a playbook this week Thursday morning, nine thirty.

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01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 9: We can't hear you.

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01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 5: It's probably over the air now, okay, kind of like

2656
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:40,800
Speaker 5: the callers can't hear that.

2657
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 2: Playbook is Thursday, eleven thirty am to eleven thirty on

2658
01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 2: So big day Thursday for the studio wal to wall.

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01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Patriots on Thursday, and we'll be.

2660
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 3: In the locker room tomorrow for the first time, so

2661
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 3: we'll hear from Girard and we'll get to.

2662
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 9: Enter you in there after the game.

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01:56:57,440 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's going to be it for the

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01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:03,040
Speaker 2: this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. Thank you everyone who called in,

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01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:06,600
Speaker 2: emailed in, or just watched or listened. We will be

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01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 2: back on Thursday at noon. See you then.

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01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:13,160
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