WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Jaylon Smith Continues To Shine 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:05.160 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:08.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:12.920 a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:16.840 for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:22.799 time for the break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:28.080 Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:32.920 Good morning, guys. It is Monday today and it does 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.599 not feel like it. We have lost strike of one 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.360 day of the week it is, but I'm here joined 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:42.879 by nicki Man, David Hellman, Derek Eagleton is out for today. 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:47.199 Who knows doing what? I don't know? Nobody fights? I think, 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.880 how are you guys doing? I'm awesome? Thank you age 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.520 than we are. We going to have an awesome show today. 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:57.840 No fights don't fights make the show. Good fights are 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:03.160 what you want. Yesterday was a little uh yeah, just 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:07.000 got mad at fins were high from start to finish. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.960 It's all good now. I think we're gonna have an 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.600 amazing show. Let's okay, let's get let's get it started. 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:16.560 We all get right into Randy Gregory, another guy that 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:21.440 made headlines yesterday. He took part in Team What Go 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:26.880 Ahead movement like Hall hell Fame, Hell yeah, Hall of Fame. 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:31.360 Randy Gregory more like really good. So yeah, so I 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.640 wanted I wanted to ask you guys. Uh. Jerry Jones 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.360 came out saying basically saying that he expects Randy to 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:43.640 be able to take some reps during the first game. 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:50.000 Is a previous season game? Season yeah? Week one? Uh, 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.520 season opener. That's the way I was looking for season openers. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:57.040 So based on what we saw today, what you guys watched, 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.560 are you what level would you rate him? Does he 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.000 look like a guy that has being out for about 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:06.480 over a year or a guy that is just fitting 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:10.639 writing with everyone else? I would say somewhere in between. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.040 But he doesn't look like a guy that's been out 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:14.960 for a year. He does not look like that guy. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:19.760 He looks um physically, he looks bigger, stronger, He looks 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.680 like he's been doing some things. But what happens is 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.359 is like he hasn't really been hit yet. I mean, 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.680 what you know, when Tyron Smith gets his hands on 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.880 him and technique and all that stuff, because he's going 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.280 to be a freak athlete that those that really doesn't 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.320 go away. It's just what happens when he's charged to, 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.519 you know, get in the mix there. I think that's 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:39.800 going to be an issue for him that you'll start 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.320 to see the rust when he really goes in and 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:45.959 the pads come on, you know, consistently, and he's trying 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.080 to mix it up with the best lineman in the NFL. Yeah, 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.600 I feel I feel two types of way about Randy 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:55.160 Gregory at the same time. One beyond impressed at where 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:59.200 he is. Honestly, I mean, what he did individuals on Saturday, Yeah, 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.040 I was. I thought he was going to do that 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.440 for the next week before he ever mixed into practice. 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.000 I didn't think we'd see him in a real practice 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:08.119 until we got back to Texas one day later. He's 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.560 mixing in there. Uh. He does not look like he's 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.160 been away from football for a year and a half. 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.239 He looks great. Literally got a sack in his first 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:19.840 practice back, beautiful twist on Tyron Crawford, looped outside and 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.200 took two linemen with him and he just had a 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.919 free run at the quarterback basically, And I mean he 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.200 would have put Dak Prescott on the ground for sure, 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:31.560 But at the same time, you know, tempering expectations. He 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:33.840 also got a he got a face full of Cam 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.440 Fleming too. I mean he got mashed a couple of times, 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.920 which you're gonna do that in line play in the NFL. 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.360 And uh, you know, I'm not ready to give him 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.680 ten sacks for the season just yet, but I'm beyond 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.320 impressed at the progress that he's made, you know, for him. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.560 I think the way this is, this is set up 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:54.600 right now with DeMarcus Lawrence, You've got Taco, You've got 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.800 Dorence Armstrong is coming along to the point where you 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:01.720 think he's going to play and contribute. Um, if Gregory 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.720 is the guy that comes in on passing situations, I 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:06.840 think that that would be perfect for him because then 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.960 he doesn't have to play a lot of snaps. He'll 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.080 be fresh. Like we said, he's going to be this 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.440 freak guy that comes in that's fresh, and then you 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.400 know he has to go up against these these tackles 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.040 all game. I think that would be a great situation 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.039 for him if if he can do that. Yeah, they 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:22.920 I think it was walked through a couple of days ago. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:26.320 They had a line up where DeMarcus was at left in, 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.960 Randy was at right in Tyrone Crawford was at the 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.680 three technique. I don't remember who was at the one. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.479 I would guess Dayton and Jones, but either I saw 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.040 it and I was like, oh, that's that would be exciting. 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.640 Um And yet, so you know, Jerry Jones said he 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:44.479 expects him to contribute week one. Jerry, I mean Jerry. 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.240 But Jerry Jones gave Jalen Smith the green light the 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.520 day they drafted him, you know, like, so he's expected 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.719 Randy Gregory to play a lot more than he has 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.800 since when he drafted him. Yeah, he's sixtieth, which I 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.000 love that about him, but he is he is the 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:02.000 most optimistic person on planet Earth, other than maybe Jalen Smay. 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.080 But but also if you say, do you do you 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:09.240 expect Randy Gregory to contribute in Week one against Carolina? 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.800 If you ask that question, and he was like, yeah, yeah, 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:16.839 I think so he was yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, no, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:21.080 yes I do. I still I think Jerry like that, Yes, 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.880 I think you gotta take like the realistic truth is 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.640 usually a notch or two below what Jerry says. In 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.560 my experience, Yeah, yeah, but I expect him to be 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.800 And that was David Hellman that said that. David Hellman, 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.520 He's an optimistic He's an optimistic guy. It's a I 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.359 think it's great you want to believe in your players, 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.240 but I gotta set it just a bar or two below. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.279 But yeah, I expect I expect Brandy Gregory to be 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:48.120 in uniform exactly. It's fair to say that before we 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.839 got here at training camp, we were all kind of like, 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.520 let's just wait and see what happens. And now it's 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.880 getting to a point that we see him at practice, right, 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.760 and it's impressive to see how he has come back 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.680 in his level, checking every single box. Yeah, he does. 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.039 I mean like he's not He doesn't look like a 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.080 guy who hasn't been doing anything. He looks like he's 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:10.200 really taken this seriously. Like I mean, he got in 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.080 there and got a sack on like his third rep 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:18.120 since twenty sixteen. That's crazy. Ye. So um, it's it's 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.200 early for me to you know, I wouldn't expect him 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.240 to play one hundred percent of the snaps against the Panthers. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.240 I think that's a little ambitious, but he's gonna have 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:29.600 a role to play. He's uh, he is definitely freakish. 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:34.520 Someone would call him Freaco heard I've heard Freako Gathers 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.240 being why are you looking at my notes? Oh I'm 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:44.000 not okay. Yes, I was gonna say. Somebody else who 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:52.000 made a freakish play yesterday was mister Rico Gathers. Rico 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:56.440 made a play one hand catch from a pass thrown 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:00.440 by play the game. I can't do that, ucks, I 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.000 can't play that game. Sorry, you're married to a Mexican. 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:07.039 I can't do it. Okay, part of the deal that 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:11.320 wasn't okay. So Cooper Rush threw a pass down, Rico 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.320 just kind of caught it with one hand. I was 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.280 watching it, and he almost seemed like as soon as 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.080 I looked down, I'm like, oh, he didn't catch that. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.240 He caught it. He caught it. He caught it, and 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:25.640 it was I would say, one of the most impressive plays. 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:30.680 Oh my god, this is just hype episode of camp. Yeah, 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.960 so again it Archie really good. Rico Gathers really good. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.160 Both initials get that he went full extendo to quote future. 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.680 He sure did. So how realistic? I mean, how do 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:46.000 you really rate this guy when he comes out and 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.200 makes those plays. I mean, he has proven that he 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.920 can catch the ball for sure, but at the same time, 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.080 he's missing a lot of those elements, and we keep 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.880 talking about him, but how do you really rate this 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.920 guy that just makes flashy plays from time to time, 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.119 but in reality for a tight end. I mean, I don't. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.080 And Rico said that yesterday. He was like, you know, 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.760 I'm not about the flash play. It's all about consistency. 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.040 Like coaches don't like a player who does that once 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.320 and then disappears for two weeks. It's about building consistency. Honestly, 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.760 I don't say this to dog Rico. I don't feel 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.080 any differently about him than I did before he did that, 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:21.920 because we knew he could do that. Honestly, I thought 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.360 he would do something like that in the San Frand game. 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.720 I didn't know they were only gonna give him sixteen snaps. 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.320 There's there are guys, and I'll use a basketball reference 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:32.800 because he was a basketball player. I mean, there are 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.480 guys that can have the greatest dunks that will be 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.840 in the dunk contest, but they don't play defense, they 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.080 don't get rebounds, and so therefore they're kind of a 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:44.320 liability out there. Yeah, they can be some great highlight plays, 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.480 but they don't do all of the things enough to 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.480 be on the field. Or on the court for that 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.640 for that matter. I think that's the same with him. 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.520 I mean, yeah, he's gonna he's gonna look do some 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.000 really good good things out here. But if he if 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.440 he misses the wrong guy on a blitz and all 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.840 of a sudden dacks in the ground looking at his earhole, 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.640 that's that's kind of a problem, wish, And that's what 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.360 we got. I don't know, twenty something days until they 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.720 cut their roster down twenty I think nineteen. Actually, I 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:12.280 think it's less than that. Rico is not going to 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.880 become this all around tight end between now and then. 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.040 It's just not gonna happen. Are you reading into the 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.480 fact that the Cowboys didn't really give him those ways 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.200 during that game? It was curious, It was curious to me. 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.160 But there's still plenty of game time left. Like that 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.960 doesn't bother me, because you could you can uptick his 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.439 reps as much as you want as we go. What 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.920 the point I was gonna make is, basically, the Cowboys 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.319 are going to have to decide if that playmaking ability 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.679 merits a roster spot over his liabilities elsewhere. Like he 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:43.840 is what he is at this point, in my opinion, 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.400 and you're gonna have to decide if that ability to 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.040 make those type of plays justifies a roster spot. You know, 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.440 when you think about what happened last year in the 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:56.240 preseason games, Jason Witten was the starter. He wasn't going 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.320 to play that. I don't think he played the Hall 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.280 of Fame game, and he didn't play much of the 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.440 second game, so you know he's not going to get 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.200 a lot of reps. James Hannah was on the roster. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:06.800 He was kind of banged up. He's not going to 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:08.800 get a lot of reps, right, So Rico was gonna 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.520 play more in that game than he would right here, 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.120 because you're in a situation where they need to see Swim, 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:15.640 they need to see jar when they need to see 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.720 Dalton Schultz. So even though he's a year removed and 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.200 he's a year more experienced, he's a little further on 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:25.240 the depth chart for preseason games, right because of the 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:26.959 guys ahead of him. I don't read in Yeah, I 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:28.760 don't read into that at all. Like I said, there's 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.480 there's three more games. He could play the entire Houston game. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.280 I'm sure he'll get more snaps in these middle two games. 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:38.199 But my just My point is that he's not He's 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.120 not gonna become a better blocker than Jeff Swim in 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.920 the next nineteen days. I don't think so. Um and no, 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.600 but still it's it's it's a fascinating question because I 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.280 think you could easily make an argument that his playmaking 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.719 ability makes him worth keeping. I don't know if they 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.400 feel that way, but it's something to watch. I feel 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.360 like you're an argument either way, you know, if you 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:00.439 didn't want to keep him or if he did when 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.079 I kid, can absolutely make an argument for keeping him 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.240 on or off the roster, and it's not hard to 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.199 make either one, and it's just going to come down 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:10.440 to the opinions of the people that actually make those decisions. Yeah, well, 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.000 we'll see what happens with him. In the meantime. Let's 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:17.520 jump into Jalen Smith. Yesterday I tweeted out something about 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.720 him being on fire and that y'all better watch out 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.440 for him, and people there were a few that came 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:27.880 at me saying, it's just practice, man, Okay, get over 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.360 that's what they sound like. Yeah, that's that's how I 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:35.400 read it. It's okay, let's get over the fact that 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:39.440 it's practiced. You just need to watch Jalen move around 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.760 and how he's moving doesn't matter if he's making those tackles, 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.800 because obviously they can really do that out here. But 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:49.120 the fact that just the spin move. You guys saw 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:53.240 that movie yesterday, that was amazing the way he moved 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.880 and was able to react that quick. I mean, how 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:57.640 do you evaluate a guy like this and how do 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:03.440 you shut those people up that in Okay, you're sure 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.600 that it's not, like you know what, it is practice 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.400 right now, Let's wait and see this is strictly a 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.040 practice setting. We'll find out a little bit later on 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.240 if he can play with the lights. Yeah, Amber cares 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.120 more about shutting up her mentions than she cares about 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.000 getting getting to the bottom of no. Because again, and 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.559 we've talked about how hard it is to evaluate linebackers 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:26.320 in training camp, but at the same time, there are 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.920 certain things that you can look at as far as 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:32.280 those movements and those reflexes. You're absolutely and it is 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.640 hard to evaluate linebackers, But just look at the stuff 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:36.880 he's doing out here. You're right, I'm I'm ticked because 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.040 I got that spin move on on video, but I 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.920 was so zoomed out that they look like little ants 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.200 and get like he which I'm Dalton Schultz is a rookie, 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:50.160 but man, he just he like he spun on him 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.680 and like the move just made Dalton Schultz fall down, 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.240 like he was so surprised to see a linebacker do that. 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:59.080 It was great. But just look at the stuff Jalen's 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.079 doing out here, Like he's carrying receivers and tight ends 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.560 down the field, he's shedding blocks, he's getting moving latterly 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:07.520 to get to the ball. I'm with you, dude, and 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.959 I Jerry Jones said this last night too. He said, uh, 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:12.880 you know, based on what I've seen in practice and 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.880 and that game, uh and and his off field demeanor 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.040 and everything like that, I'm absolutely convinced right now that 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.280 he was worth the second round pick we spent on him. 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.280 I think he said he used the word cornerstone. He said, 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.160 I think he could be a cornerstone for our team, 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.640 both as a player and as an off the field 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:33.280 right kind of guy type of dude. Uh yeah, another. 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.640 I mean, but you know what, the three people that 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:42.240 you've mentioned so far, Randy Gregory, Rico Gathers, and Jalen Smith, 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:46.040 they're all very similar in one one way. Yeah, highly 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.079 talented but unproven. Yes, the cow ways to get chanced, 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.760 but they've got freaky talent that that has to be 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.400 kind of tapped into. But in Farrico, it's it's a 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.400 lot different than the others. Um you know, for Gregor, 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.120 they all have their different issues, they have different obstacles 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.120 that they have to overcome. But for for Jalen Smith, 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.240 it looks like he's getting there. He's he is showing 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:11.600 what they drafted out of him, and he's got freakish skills. 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.160 And as you saw with this spin movie, here's the 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.319 thing with Jalen Smith, which and I said this last 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.280 night on Twitter two is I'm I'm cynical to a fault, 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.360 Like I'm always the like, I take every I don't 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.560 take anything at face value. Everybody's got an ulterior motive. 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.480 I just I Again, that's me as a person. I'm 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.920 just a skeptic and it's my flaw. But I have 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.520 a hard time not buying into what I'm seeing from 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:39.720 Jalen Smith because you see the athleticism, you see the talent, 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.560 you see the instincts, and then on top of that, 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.480 you see what the Cowboys did with their linebacker Corps. 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.400 And that's why that was so important, because why was 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.800 Jalen Smith bad last year or not bad? But when 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.120 did he have his shortcomings? When he was thrown out 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.760 there for sixteen seventy eight plays. He doesn't have to 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.920 do that this year because between Shawn Lee, Layton Vander 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.240 and Joe Thomas, who is a surprised star of camp, 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.240 there are there are bodies that keep him from having 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:07.960 to do that. You can keep him fresh, you can 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:11.720 keep him fluid. And I'm just I'm having a hard 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:15.600 time not buying into him taking a step and being 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.240 like a legitimate playmaker for this team. Like everything I've 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.000 seen out here. I'm not saying it's definitely gonna happen, 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.280 but but I'm yeah, I'm having a hard time not 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.240 buying into the hype. And one of the questions I 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:29.280 have people tend to ask and base his level of, 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:33.160 you know, playmaking, is comparing him to the guy that 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.320 he was a Notre dame and you know, is he 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.120 back to that level yet or not? And I'm just 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.800 asking this because I get I see this on Twitter 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.480 all the time. How would you rate this player that 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.160 Jalen Smith is at right now versus the one that 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.600 he was in college. I think that's a good question. 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:53.080 I think that you know, anybody that's entering their third 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.280 pro season. Now, I understanding he didn't play his first year, 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.440 he was still here, he still kind of got an 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:01.240 understanding of NFL life. I think he's a he's got 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:05.720 to be a smarter, more aware, alert player. M I 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.520 bet you he is a better football player than he 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.800 was at Notre Dame right now. Now. Now he's not 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.320 going up against Navy. I mean he's he's not going 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:18.600 up against against those those teams, you know, Michigan, Michigan 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.600 state that that's that he's going up against better players 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.760 obviously here. But it seems like he is back to 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.920 that physical level. He's bigger and stronger too. His upper 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.120 body is a lot bigger, and he's got to be 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.160 more aware. So I think he's a better football player. 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.520 But I think the cornerback, I think Tarverius Ward is 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.520 probably better than he was at his place. 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I said, this is this 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.320 is I've been doing an informal poll around camp because 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:30.440 I this thought occurred to me after watching practice last 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:32.399 night with you know, Jalen doing his spin move and 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:37.520 Layton vanders back. I pulled about five people around camp 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:39.439 last and I was like, Okay, let's all just assume 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.960 that we agree that the Cowboys offensive line is the 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.639 best position group on this team. Think everybody would agree 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:49.720 with that linebacker linebacker? Yeah. And I thought that, and 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:53.200 I thought I was crazy, And four different people agreed 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:54.920 with me. They're like, yeah, no, I mean, if they're 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:56.720 all out there, if they're all practicing, it's a pretty 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.080 impressive group. I would I would not agree with that. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.879 I think it's close, it's up there. I would say 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:07.359 the running back position, I think you you definitely have 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.800 an elite player in the NFL. I think you've got 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:14.879 a capable backup in Rod Smith who's versatile. I put 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.280 Jama's all the Whalley in there as as a fullback 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:20.200 that does some unique things. I think both Scarborough's gonna 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:24.000 get into this mix. Um, I would just say running 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.160 back because they're a little bit more proven and more elite. 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:30.000 But I can't disagree that linebacker is right there, especially 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:31.760 from the defensive side of the ball. I don't have 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:34.359 a I ranked them all like one to ten and 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.840 I put running back third. So I don't disagree with 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.280 you terribly. But hold on, hold on, you did this 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:43.240 ranking wear just in my head I write stuff like this. Yeah, 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.560