WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Because The Night

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody on Dan Hoard and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast the because the ninth addition has

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals return to prime time for the second straight week,

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<v Speaker 1>looking to knock off the six and three Chargers on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday Night Football coming up, Mike Turrico will be in

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<v Speaker 1>the Booth for NBC and tells us how he views

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of this game for Cincinnati. I'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>cornerbacks coach Chuck Burks about the loss of Dax Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>the play of Cam Taylor Britt and the challenge of

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<v Speaker 1>facing Justin Herbert. And we'll get an in depth look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Chargers from Daniel Popper, who covers the team

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<v Speaker 1>you get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Morrison getting the picture. On Sunday Night, Zach Taylor will

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<v Speaker 1>coach against Jim Harbaugh for the first time, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the first time they've met. Their initial meeting happened many,

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<v Speaker 1>many years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to my first ever NFL game, I think

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<v Speaker 2>was ninety two Bear Steelers, and I got to go

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<v Speaker 2>to a Saturday walkthrough and I have a picture with

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Harbo, me Press Taylor and Jim Harbo ninety two

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<v Speaker 2>ninety three. I'm not sure which year it was. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a Steelers at Bear's Bubby Brister versus Jim Harbo,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm sure I think they retired Mike Singletary's jersey

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<v Speaker 2>at the game. I think very shaky memory as a

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<v Speaker 2>nine year old, ten year old freezing. I remember just

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<v Speaker 2>being why are we here? I think was a question

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<v Speaker 2>I posted a bit so Jim wouldn't know that, But

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<v Speaker 2>but again that's that was the first ever NFL practice

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<v Speaker 2>and game I ever went to. It had to have

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<v Speaker 2>been a Saturday walk through because I remember the fridge

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<v Speaker 2>driving around a golf cart throwing snowballs at people, and

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<v Speaker 2>we got a picture with Mike Didka and Jim Harball.

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<v Speaker 2>The two people got pictures with picture. You have it,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where it is. Yeah, uh, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll continue the story. When I was in Miami, the

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<v Speaker 2>picture showed up at my house autographed when I was

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<v Speaker 2>with the Dolphins, and I remember calling my mom saying,

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<v Speaker 2>why do I have an autographed Jim Harbaugh picture? Which

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he actually autographed it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>It might have been somebody at the forty nine ers.

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<v Speaker 2>My grandfather thought that Jim Harbaugh needed to know that

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<v Speaker 2>the two kids in the picture are now NFL coaches,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he kept sending it to the forty nine

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<v Speaker 2>ers and was getting no response, and I'm sure a

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<v Speaker 2>secretary somebody eventually just signed it and sent it back.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he shows up on my doorstep in Miami,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember call my mom like what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>And she explained the whole situation, which I understoo. My

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<v Speaker 2>grandfather's very proud and felt like, you know, Jim Harball

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<v Speaker 2>needed to know, like he hadn't taken a million other

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<v Speaker 2>pictures with other kids before so the picture exists. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know where it is. Is probably my parents' house.

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<v Speaker 1>Norman like that Sunday, You'll go, that's really cool. You're

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<v Speaker 1>probably right. Would you like to see the picture? Of

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<v Speaker 1>course you would like to see the picture. Our pal,

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Morrison, contacted Zach's mom to get the pick and

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<v Speaker 1>some additional details about the meeting. Just search for Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Morrison Sports Illustrated, then scroll down to the story about

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<v Speaker 1>Zach meeting Jim Harbaugh for the first time in thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two years. It is outstanding. Now time to look ahead

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<v Speaker 1>to Sunday Night with Chris Collinsworth's broadcast partner on NBC.

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<v Speaker 1>For the fourth time this year, the Bengals are in primetime.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the second time they are on the most watched

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<v Speaker 1>show on television, Sunday Night Football, And that means my

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<v Speaker 1>buddy Mike Tarico be in the booth for NBC. Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals are a game out of the final playoff

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<v Speaker 1>spot in the AFC. How do you plan to frame

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of this game for Cincinnati when you sign

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<v Speaker 1>out on Sunday Night.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a must, but it is right.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not a must because there's no mathematical elimination, any

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<v Speaker 4>of that stuff. The back half of the AFC is

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<v Speaker 4>not who we thought they were, to quote Denny Green,

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<v Speaker 4>but the Bengals have let them off the hook.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of times here To continue that thought.

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<v Speaker 4>They had great chances to win a few of these games,

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<v Speaker 4>and now they're out of chances pretty much. And Dan,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's one of those games that all of

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<v Speaker 4>a sudden, if you get the Chargers to six and

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<v Speaker 4>four and then you're sitting at five and six. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>forget the imbalance of the number of games, but now

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<v Speaker 4>you're looking at the lost column. Go okay, now we're

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<v Speaker 4>two within two of these guys and have a head

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<v Speaker 4>to head against them. It just shortens the deck a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit so mathematically in the big scope of the

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<v Speaker 4>AC playoff picture, which I guess we'm starting to see

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<v Speaker 4>on TV now, right, that's how you know it's getting cold.

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<v Speaker 3>If you live in the Northeast, they are living the North.

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<v Speaker 4>Rather, the golf courses start to put temporary greens out

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<v Speaker 4>and play less plentiful, and the playoff picture shows up

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<v Speaker 4>on TV. You're in that mix. If you get a

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<v Speaker 4>win in the AFC against one of those other teams

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<v Speaker 4>in the mix. So I think it's not a must win,

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<v Speaker 4>but it is for the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>They could easily have two wins over Baltimore. They could

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<v Speaker 1>easily have a win over Kansas City. How would you

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<v Speaker 1>describe the Bengals season to date?

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<v Speaker 4>They're good enough, but they've been disappointing. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 4>difference is I'd probably say good teams play five or

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<v Speaker 4>six games in that neighborhood, and the really good ones

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<v Speaker 4>go five and one, and the okay teams go three, three,

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<v Speaker 4>two and four. But the teams that aren't good don't

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<v Speaker 4>win these games. And that's where the Bengals record is

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<v Speaker 4>right now. And look, Tony one's playing better, I got that,

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<v Speaker 4>But that one feels like there's one you'll never get back.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes you lose a game, you say, okay, you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>things will leaven out during the year. That one feels

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<v Speaker 4>like we're not going to get that game back. There's

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<v Speaker 4>no makeup for that loss during the season, and now

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's requiring other people on the team to match

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<v Speaker 4>the remarkable that have come from the quarterback of the receiver.

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<v Speaker 4>Burrow and Chase have been truly remarkable. Highlight moments, big

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<v Speaker 4>plays gotta have it. Everybody in the ballpark knows it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to him, and he he still ends up opening

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<v Speaker 4>catching the ball. There have to be other guys, not

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<v Speaker 4>that everybody's been poor, but other guys have to come

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<v Speaker 4>up to that level for this team to go on

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<v Speaker 4>a run that they kind of need. At this point,

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<v Speaker 4>you're looking at you know, a five and two, a

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<v Speaker 4>six and one. You need everybody else to be great

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<v Speaker 4>along with them. I think that's the key to this

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<v Speaker 4>team right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike, you've been doing NFL games on primetime for about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years. Have you seen a better combo than Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>to Chase.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great question.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the year of Brady and Moss was ridiculous

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<v Speaker 4>and the records show it. There are you know, there

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<v Speaker 4>have been guys along the way at years like this,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson at a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of months like this. But this is right up there

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<v Speaker 4>and it's sustained and it's I think Dan. What maybe

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<v Speaker 4>puts it in a unique place in space is they're

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<v Speaker 4>both making spectacular plays. The hits that Burrow is taking,

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<v Speaker 4>the ability to stand in the pocket and deliver on

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<v Speaker 4>past forty eight and fifty two. We've been beaten up

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<v Speaker 4>all night. That jumps out to you and Chase on

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<v Speaker 4>the business and there there is almost nobody. You start

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<v Speaker 4>going through how good the receiver group is right now

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<v Speaker 4>in the NFL. I don't think I'd rather a ball

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<v Speaker 4>be thrown to anybody but Jamar Chase right now. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's in the Justin Jefferson comversation. We just had him

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<v Speaker 4>a few weeks ago. I watched all his catches. I

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<v Speaker 4>watched all the Chase catches from the year earlier today,

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<v Speaker 4>and you just go, Okay, speed, yes, strong hands, hands, catch,

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<v Speaker 4>catch on the run, work his way open, physical contact,

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<v Speaker 4>double teams. It's like every box possible for well the

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<v Speaker 4>receiver catch against these circumstances, He's checking every single one.

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<v Speaker 4>And I said it about Joe like his toughness is

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<v Speaker 4>off the chart, off the charts.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been so good.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think it's a long way of saying probably not,

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<v Speaker 4>but that Brady Maushiere was pretty special. So I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to dismiss being a prisoner of the moment right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You and Chris had the Bengals Giants back in Week six,

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati held New York to seven points in that win.

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<v Speaker 1>It's their best defensive performance of the year. The Giants

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<v Speaker 1>offense obviously has something to do with that. But did

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<v Speaker 1>you see anything that night that makes you think, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>if the Bengals can do this a little bit better defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got a chance in the less seven that night.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, not as much last week.

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<v Speaker 4>Cover like the first half last week, they had Lamar Jackson.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Ravens kind of flummixed a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>They had them gasping and grasping for straws, and then

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, it was like every every pass

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<v Speaker 4>was accessible and open. They need better corner play, they

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<v Speaker 4>just do. And I know louis shuffling the deck as

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<v Speaker 4>much as possible. No, look, the linebackers to take them

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<v Speaker 4>with everybody with Trey has done up front with eleven sacks.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that's you can't get better that, especially when there's

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<v Speaker 4>not an opposite number who's piling up five or six.

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<v Speaker 4>So Trey is doing it with all the attention on him.

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<v Speaker 4>So edge rush is there can need some help. That

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<v Speaker 4>interior push isn't the same as it was. That would help,

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<v Speaker 4>But the corner places got to be better down the

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<v Speaker 4>stretch here. And the Chargers are an interesting team because

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<v Speaker 4>Herbert contest Herbert and Burrow. If the game gets bad,

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're just stopping at halftime and just let

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<v Speaker 4>those guys just show off their arms, because it's two

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<v Speaker 4>of the greatest throwing shows you'll see in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's a ball Herbert threw in a game last

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<v Speaker 4>year that I still can't believe he completed against Miami.

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<v Speaker 4>And we've seen Joe do it like I was talking

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<v Speaker 4>about before, But the Chargers are playing harball. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>like kind of rough and tumbling. Here comes a defensive

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<v Speaker 4>line and we've turned into a full back and we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna make him into the same kind of piece that

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<v Speaker 4>Patrick Ricard is in Baltimore. Jim Harbaugh has a way

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<v Speaker 4>of kind of making a physical, tough team come together.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was never ever what you said about the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 4>But in nine games you do because of harball. But

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<v Speaker 4>this is to your question, your point, like, if Herbert

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<v Speaker 4>needs to throw, he can throw. And Quentin Johnston has

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<v Speaker 4>been good, Joshua Palmer was good with injuries a few

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<v Speaker 4>years ago. He's good, and Lad McConkie has done a

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<v Speaker 4>very nice job as coming in. So if they need

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<v Speaker 4>to sit back and throw, they've got the people to

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<v Speaker 4>do it, and the quarterbacks got the arm to do it,

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<v Speaker 4>Which means the Bengals corners might not be tested as

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<v Speaker 4>much as they will against other people, but they better

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<v Speaker 4>be ready because this can morph into an explosive offense

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<v Speaker 4>if they so choose.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chargers are giving up thirteen points a game. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>scored twenty on them yet now they haven't faced the

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<v Speaker 1>top ten scoring offense to this point of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the big story Burrow Chase hopefully Higgins versus

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<v Speaker 1>that great Chargers d.

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<v Speaker 4>It is in large part, and I think one of

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<v Speaker 4>the big stories with that is the edge pressure that

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<v Speaker 4>the Chargers bring. We'll talk about Cincinnati needing other people

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<v Speaker 4>that come along here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 4>You think of, Oh, it's Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack

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<v Speaker 4>And we've seen those guys are a lot of years.

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<v Speaker 4>They're both very good and we know what they can

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<v Speaker 4>do over the years. But all of a sudden, Twoy

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<v Speaker 4>two Polo two who played for them last year. He's

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<v Speaker 4>been an effective pass are and Bud Dupree, who most

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<v Speaker 4>of the people listening and watching this know from the division.

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<v Speaker 4>He's come in and given them a factor. So when

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<v Speaker 4>you can roll four guys in there, now you've got something.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's been the basis for a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of what they've done. The same defensive coordinator that we saw,

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<v Speaker 4>Jesse Minter, who the Minter family is very well known

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<v Speaker 4>to the Cincinnati folk from Rick Stays at EC. Jesse's

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<v Speaker 4>just a it's a solid defense. It's a solid defense

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<v Speaker 4>with a piece in Derwin James playing what's become I

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<v Speaker 4>think dan one of the coolest positions in the NFL's

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<v Speaker 4>slot corner. They are like seven or I wonder who

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<v Speaker 4>the best slot corner is in the AFC. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you guys see Mike Hilton on a regular basis. We

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<v Speaker 4>saw Kenny Moore with the Colts. We've seen Taron Johnson

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<v Speaker 4>with the Bills, we saw Houston and Petrie last week.

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<v Speaker 4>That position has become populated with some really good players,

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<v Speaker 4>and they've got one in Derwin James, who they finally

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<v Speaker 4>I think it found the right role for on this team.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's a guy who's gonna be nosing around to

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<v Speaker 4>try to take away any easy throws for Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a good defense.

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<v Speaker 4>But like you said, now you step into the deep

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<v Speaker 4>end against as dynamic and offense as there is in

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<v Speaker 4>the league throwing the ball. Can you keep them to

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<v Speaker 4>thirteen fourteen points? If you do that, then then you

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<v Speaker 4>probably win a football game.

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<v Speaker 1>Final thing for my buddy, Mike Tarico. You've hosted the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 1>the Masters, the Kentucky Derby. You're gonna get to call

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<v Speaker 1>the super Bowl following next season. So you've done it all.

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<v Speaker 1>But this past Sunday night, you were part of the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest timed sideline report in the history of television for

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<v Speaker 1>people that might not have been watching. Can you explain

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<v Speaker 1>what happened?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it was crazy. Usually the sideline reports. Here's coach

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<v Speaker 4>X after halftime. Yeah, you know, we went in there.

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<v Speaker 4>We told them we've got to stop the running. We

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<v Speaker 4>got establish the run. If we could stop the run

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<v Speaker 4>and establish the run, I think we can win the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks very much. Back to you. So Dan Campbell's interview

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<v Speaker 4>air coming out at halftime, and here's a backstory. Nobody's

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<v Speaker 4>heard Dan the time before it. Dan Campbell's good TV. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>you just put a microphone in front of his face.

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<v Speaker 4>He's good TV, but with forty five seconds, which is

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<v Speaker 4>long to squeeze in after a kickoff and before the

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<v Speaker 4>next play. So we're going back and forth with Rob Highland,

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<v Speaker 4>our producer, and me like how do we do this?

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<v Speaker 4>And said, hey, I'll get it to you. I'll get

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<v Speaker 4>it to it as quick as possible. Let it lead

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<v Speaker 4>into the first play. He's like, yeah, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fun. Good idea. So he was driving that bus

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<v Speaker 3>and then of course Dan Campbell's answers.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to come up with some turnovers and five

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<v Speaker 4>seconds later, boom, there's a turnover. Actually, if I wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>fast so fast getting to the interview, it would have

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<v Speaker 4>timed up right to the second, but it was. It

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<v Speaker 4>was pretty funny, and then kind of set the tone

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<v Speaker 4>for the whole half. And it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Every once in a while, I think they have value

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<v Speaker 3>because I like to.

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<v Speaker 4>Hear the voice that the guy we're showing for three

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<v Speaker 4>hours and more and more coaches say things Brian Dable

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<v Speaker 4>after the first quarter a couple of weeks ago, at

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<v Speaker 4>least gave him some sub since on what's bothering him

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<v Speaker 4>and what's the key? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>So I think they're better than other people do. But

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<v Speaker 3>that one was the al.

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<v Speaker 4>Timer, and that's one that will gladly be a part

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<v Speaker 4>of forever.

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<v Speaker 1>The game was an all timer, two five picks for

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<v Speaker 1>the team that won. Maybe we'll see something similarly crazy

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<v Speaker 1>this Sunday night. Looking forward to seeing you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for your time.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute, before

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<v Speaker 4>you keep going.

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<v Speaker 3>You knew I was going to get you on this.

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<v Speaker 4>Cincinnati, your voice of the Bengals and voice of the Bearcats,

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<v Speaker 4>Dan Hordes, being honored by our album out of Syracuse

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<v Speaker 4>with the Marty Glickman Award. Marty Glickman was the early

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<v Speaker 4>great broadcasters of all time. Look them up. He's a

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<v Speaker 4>great story. Marty's legacy means a lot to the people

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<v Speaker 4>in Syracuse. And Dan is being honored for his contributions

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<v Speaker 4>to this industry with that award, and I just want

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<v Speaker 4>to say congratulations.

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<v Speaker 3>No one deserves it more.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what you mean to me in my career,

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<v Speaker 4>and we are so thrilled that you are joining our

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<v Speaker 4>club with this award. Sinceres, congratulations, Cincinnati, you have an

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<v Speaker 4>all time gym on your hands, the last on a

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<v Speaker 4>quarter century and I hope you just appreciate him as

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<v Speaker 4>much as we do, so congrats, Budge.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to know Mike when I was a junior

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<v Speaker 1>and he was a freshman at Syracuse, and here's what

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<v Speaker 1>you need to know about him. Despite truly being one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best sportscasters in the history of TV and radio,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike is that guy that never forgets his friends. When

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<v Speaker 1>he comes to town, He'll reach out to grab breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>if something significant happens for one of our college buddies.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the guy that makes sure that everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>knows about it. I am blessed to have wonderful friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike Tariko truly is one of the kindest and

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<v Speaker 1>most generous people I have ever met. Now let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to my second guest. In my conversation with Mike, he

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the need for better cornerback play in order for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals defense to take a big step forward in

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<v Speaker 1>the final seven games of the season. I discussed that

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<v Speaker 1>position group this week with cornerbacks coach Chuck Burt. Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with the guy that unfortunately you lost back

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<v Speaker 1>in Week five to a torn acl Dax Hill. How

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<v Speaker 1>was he playing when he went down?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I thought Dax was doing a phenomenal job, especially

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<v Speaker 5>for somebody making a transition. You know, within a year,

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<v Speaker 5>he was really playing extremely consistent. The game against the Ravens,

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<v Speaker 5>he was actually starting at corner and starting at nickel

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<v Speaker 5>because Mike Mike Hillton was gone and he was on

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<v Speaker 5>his way to have a good game that week. He was,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, really playing the best out of all the

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<v Speaker 5>corners to that point of the season.

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<v Speaker 6>And that was a tremendous loss.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I told Lou that when we lost Dax,

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<v Speaker 5>we really lost three starting positions. We lost the corner,

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<v Speaker 5>we lost the nickel, and we lost you know, a

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<v Speaker 5>tight end cover guy on third down. So that was

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<v Speaker 5>a tremendous loss for the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside cover corner is one of the most difficult positions

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<v Speaker 1>to play. It's why the top ones make more than

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<v Speaker 1>twenty million dollars a year. Did Dak show you that

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<v Speaker 1>he had the ability to be one of those guys?

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I've never doubted that really since he

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<v Speaker 5>was drafted. You know, I always believe that that Daks

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<v Speaker 5>could play outside corner. And you know, when he made

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<v Speaker 5>that transition, you know, he didn't blink. I didn't blink.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually felt that we had drafted the first round

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<v Speaker 5>corner this year, you know, when we made the switch.

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<v Speaker 5>So I definitely see it from an ability standpoint, But

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<v Speaker 5>more importantly, Dax has the mental makeup of being able

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<v Speaker 5>to play that position and critical moment of the game.

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<v Speaker 6>And what makes these guys elite.

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<v Speaker 5>Me and me and Jase mccordy is actually having this conversation,

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<v Speaker 5>is what makes elite corners elite is their elite and

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<v Speaker 5>third down raider and two minute against their best. That's

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<v Speaker 5>what makes these guys elite. And you have to have

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<v Speaker 5>the right temperament for it. You have to have a

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<v Speaker 5>short memory and be able to have a tremendous belief

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<v Speaker 5>in yourself throughout the game.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's what Dax has.

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<v Speaker 1>We're visiting with cornerbacks coach Chuck Berks Cam Taylor. Britt

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty five years old. He's in his third NFL season.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to be great. Play this year has been inconsistent.

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<v Speaker 5>What stands out to you, you know, it's just that,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, it's just that it's it's the inconsistency with

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<v Speaker 5>the with the details and the day to day things

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<v Speaker 5>that he knows what to do and he just has

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<v Speaker 5>to do what he knows on a consistent basis. And

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<v Speaker 5>me and him had a conversation the other day about

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<v Speaker 5>what makes a pro. A pro is consistency, being able

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<v Speaker 5>to go out and play at a high level on

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<v Speaker 5>a consistent basis, not just for one week, not for

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<v Speaker 5>two weeks, but throughout the season. Now, they are gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be games where, you know, those guys on the other

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<v Speaker 5>side get paid as well. But we just want to

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<v Speaker 5>make sure, you know, whenever those plays are made, it's

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<v Speaker 5>not because of us, because they're being great, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>And that's that's what we're getting to. I don't I

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<v Speaker 5>don't have a lack of confidence or lack of faith

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<v Speaker 5>and came to the Bride. I've had him since his

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<v Speaker 5>rookie year. I know that he wants to be great.

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<v Speaker 5>I know that it's important to him.

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<v Speaker 6>I know this team is important to him.

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<v Speaker 5>And he's fighting through it and it's it's growing pains.

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<v Speaker 5>Know he's still a young development player in our league

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<v Speaker 5>and it is hard to do.

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<v Speaker 6>It's hard to do, but.

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<v Speaker 5>The great players do the hard things and if that's

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<v Speaker 5>what he wants to be, we gotta fight through it.

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<v Speaker 1>He had one of the greatest interceptions ever in Week

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<v Speaker 1>two against Kansas City, has he gambled for interceptions since?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, there's.

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<v Speaker 5>Definitely been y'all wouldn't say a gamble for a particular play.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's just honing in on your technique and not

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<v Speaker 5>necessarily wanting to do everything, wanting to do too much,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and just honing in on the things that

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<v Speaker 5>you know to do. And that's what we're just trying

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<v Speaker 5>to get back to is just those little things. There's

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<v Speaker 5>the play is not going to come to you. At

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<v Speaker 5>times when that play doesn't come to you, your technique

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<v Speaker 5>needs to be great. Your eyes need to be great,

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<v Speaker 5>your pad little needs to be great because eventually the

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<v Speaker 5>ball's gonna find you. And if you do that consistently,

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<v Speaker 5>when the ball shows up, you're gonna be in position.

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<v Speaker 5>But when you know, as you kind of alluded to,

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<v Speaker 5>but when you're you know, when you're looking to make

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<v Speaker 5>a play on every play, that's what's gonna lead to inconsistency.

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Turner moved back into the starting lineup after Dax's injury.

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<v Speaker 1>How has he played through ten games?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I've been pleased with Dj.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously, there's always things we want to get better at

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<v Speaker 5>but you know, there's a there was a few penalities

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<v Speaker 5>I believe in the Cleveland game and the Giant game

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<v Speaker 5>that you know, we we want to get our head

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<v Speaker 5>around and those penalities obviously could have went the other way,

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<v Speaker 5>but we want to take it out of the ref's hands.

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<v Speaker 5>But other than that, I thought DJ covered extremely well

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<v Speaker 5>this last game versus tough cover you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, Zay Flowers.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, when you assigned somebody against a Flowers one

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<v Speaker 5>on one, that's you know, that's that's a tough task.

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<v Speaker 6>And he did it.

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<v Speaker 5>He finished well, was on third down, and then one

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<v Speaker 5>of the last plays that we gave up, he was

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<v Speaker 5>in great position and he was covering them all over

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<v Speaker 5>the end zone. So I've been pleased with DJ. He's

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<v Speaker 5>going to continue to get challenged. Both of those guys

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<v Speaker 5>are going to continue to get challenged. But I'm looking

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<v Speaker 5>forward to these guys stepping up and you know, really

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<v Speaker 5>putting us in a better position towards the end of

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<v Speaker 5>the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Helton continues to excel at age thirty. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you admire and respect about Mike Helton?

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<v Speaker 5>I really admire Mike's leadership, his willingness to challenge the

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<v Speaker 5>people around him, his willingness to h you know, he

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<v Speaker 5>has a unique path to you know, where he's at today.

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<v Speaker 6>And he's been through adversity.

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<v Speaker 5>He's played on multiple teams, he's played on you know,

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<v Speaker 5>obviously playing with the Steelers and you know, making a

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<v Speaker 5>name for himself there. And he's really been a consistent

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<v Speaker 5>voice to lean on with the younger guys and just

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<v Speaker 5>telling these guys and reiterating that, look, the season is long.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, he may have played poorly or inconsistent

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<v Speaker 5>in October a little bit in November, but he's been

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<v Speaker 5>harping on the guys that, look, we still are in it,

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<v Speaker 5>just like anybody else throughout the league. And I've really

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<v Speaker 5>admired that, and then it really shows up in his play.

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<v Speaker 5>I think when you watch Mike play and make plays

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<v Speaker 5>and you know the energy that he brings, you really

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<v Speaker 5>see a guy who's been through the ring of the NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>You see a guy who's had to fight for everything

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<v Speaker 5>that he has and everybody respects that. So UH love

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<v Speaker 5>having Mike as a player and being able. It's really

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<v Speaker 5>an honor to be his coach and he's doing he's

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<v Speaker 5>doing well.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Newton played a season high nineteen snaps against Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see his role growing?

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<v Speaker 6>I do?

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 6>Josh.

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<v Speaker 5>Josh is another guy who's he's earned his opportunity, and

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<v Speaker 5>he's relation to this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 6>He's went out, he's covered well.

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<v Speaker 5>He covered well versus the Raiders, and he's covered well

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<v Speaker 5>this past game versus the Ravens, and you know, he's

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<v Speaker 5>a guy that I want to put him in there

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<v Speaker 5>a few snaps at outside corner, you know, just to

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<v Speaker 5>see how he handles that, and really pushed all these

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<v Speaker 5>guys because you know, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody is always competing with themselves, and whoever's getting better

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<v Speaker 5>and whoever's getting hot, they're gonna play. So I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>say that Josh is far off because he's getting better

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<v Speaker 5>each each and every day and we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 5>depend on him to get to where we're going.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple more questions for cornerbacks Coach Chuck Burkes, you

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<v Speaker 1>face the Chargers this week justin Herbert has as much

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<v Speaker 1>arm talent does any quarterback in the NFL. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>big challenge for your group as a result.

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<v Speaker 5>The big challenge for us is simply everybody's open with

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<v Speaker 5>a guy like Justin Herbert, no matter where he's at

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<v Speaker 5>on the field, he can get the ball there. He

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<v Speaker 5>has tremendous arm talent, he has tremendous confidence in his

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<v Speaker 5>arm talent, and he's gonna make the tough throws. So

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<v Speaker 5>we have to definitely be on top of the positioning

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<v Speaker 5>that we are in relation to the receivers. We have

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<v Speaker 5>to you know, be in great position on our zones.

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<v Speaker 5>And one thing that I think that he's doing, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>better this year is he's taking care of the football.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's a really kudo to you know, Harball, Greg Roman.

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<v Speaker 5>That they're protecting him with the run game, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>putting the receivers and advantation's positions with high percentage throws,

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<v Speaker 5>knowing that this guy can make any throw in the field.

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<v Speaker 6>But they're.

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<v Speaker 5>Really making the game more efficient for him, which you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I know he is excited about, but he's he's talented.

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<v Speaker 6>Is any quarterback in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>You're four and six with seven to go. You could

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<v Speaker 1>easily have two wins over Baltimore. You probably should have

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<v Speaker 1>had a win at Kansas City. Have you ever been

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<v Speaker 1>in a season like this where at least to this point,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like all of those close games are just

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<v Speaker 1>slipping through your fingers.

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't quite say this kind of season where you

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<v Speaker 5>know you're in these games and it's like one play away,

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<v Speaker 5>you know you can ease a lady if you know

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<v Speaker 5>one player here or one player here, that our season

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<v Speaker 5>will be a lot differently but different. But I really

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<v Speaker 5>believe that you know, everything happens for a reason. I

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<v Speaker 5>think that you know that all of these guys are

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<v Speaker 5>learning lessons from this, and I think at the end

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<v Speaker 5>of the day, it comes down to us winning as

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<v Speaker 5>a team, winning on offense, defense and the kicking game

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<v Speaker 5>and playing, you know, playing off of each other. And

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<v Speaker 5>when one side of the ball creates momentum, the other

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<v Speaker 5>side of the ball needs to continue to maintain that momentum.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think ultimately the Ravens did that last week.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the Ravens created their momentum and they carried

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<v Speaker 5>the momentum through the fourth quarter and they finished. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's we can learn a lesson as a team through that,

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<v Speaker 5>because this is a game of momentum. This game versus

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<v Speaker 5>the Chargers, at the end of the day will come

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<v Speaker 5>down to the fourth quarter and what we do in

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<v Speaker 5>the fourth quarter as a team will dictate the outcome

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<v Speaker 5>of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I always appreciate your time. Best of luck this week, all.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>that after a Bengals win, you can usually hear loud

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers beat the Titans, when reporters walked into the locker room,

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<v Speaker 1>the song they heard playing was Gordon Lightfoot's nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>six folk song The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. It

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<v Speaker 1>tells the tragic story of a shipwreck that took the

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<v Speaker 1>lives of all twenty nine people on board. You know

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<v Speaker 1>the song The Legend Lives On from the Chippewa on

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<v Speaker 1>down of the Big Lake. Nicole get Chigumi. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most unlikely hit songs of all time, and

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<v Speaker 1>coach Harbaugh has frequently used it over the years to

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<v Speaker 1>motivate his teams, the message being that they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to try to make it through choppy waters at

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<v Speaker 1>various times during the year. Well, he used it with

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers last week, and whatever he's doing seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be working. LA is six and three after winning a

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<v Speaker 1>total of five games last year. Daniel Popper covers the

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<v Speaker 1>team for the Athletic and he joined Dave Lapham and

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<v Speaker 1>me this week on the Bengals Game Plan Show. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with the appius head. Oh, Jim Harbaugh. What are

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<v Speaker 1>some of the biggest things that he's done to turn

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<v Speaker 1>this Chargers team around?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. I think it starts with sort of the buzzword

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<v Speaker 7>that everybody uses, which is culture. I think what he's

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<v Speaker 7>done is really created a level of togetherness, a unity

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<v Speaker 7>in the locker room that had been missing for this

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<v Speaker 7>team in recent seasons. And you know, when you have

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<v Speaker 7>a schedule like the Chargers have had this season, where

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<v Speaker 7>it's quite a few middling teams on the schedule, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>if you can get a certain amount of togetherness, a

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<v Speaker 7>certain amount of unity. You play hard, and you obviously

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<v Speaker 7>improve the coaching and the preparation and the consistency in that.

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<v Speaker 3>Phase, you you're gonna get some wins.

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<v Speaker 7>And so I think that's a big reason why there's

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<v Speaker 7>six and three. There's a real culture being built here

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<v Speaker 7>by Jim Harbaugh. Obviously, he's done that everywhere he's been

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<v Speaker 7>at both the college and pro level.

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<v Speaker 8>As a former offensive lineman. Let me ask you about

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<v Speaker 8>the two edge players for the Chargers defensive football team.

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<v Speaker 8>Khalil Mack only played two snaps battling that groin issue

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<v Speaker 8>last week, didn't practice today. Joey Bosa on a pits count.

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<v Speaker 8>He got his seventieth sack. That's that's huge, number two

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<v Speaker 8>in Charger history now, but he's on a pitch count.

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<v Speaker 8>What do you forecast for the two edge players in

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<v Speaker 8>terms of playing time?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So, Joey Bosa has been dealing with this hit problem,

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<v Speaker 7>missed several games with it. It was initially a groin strain,

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<v Speaker 7>it ended up moving into a psiatic nerve, but he's

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<v Speaker 7>been improving the last few weeks. He played a season

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<v Speaker 7>high twenty two snaps on Sunday, against the Titans. Obviously

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<v Speaker 7>got that sack as you mentioned, So I think he's

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<v Speaker 7>steadily improving, figuring out how to sort of play through

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<v Speaker 7>the pain and discomfort that he's been dealing with. And

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<v Speaker 7>I think we'll start to see a version of Joey

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<v Speaker 7>Bosa closer to his fully healthy self here, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>starting Sunday and moving forward. Khalil Mack obviously, like you said,

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<v Speaker 7>was injured. He's been playing at an extremely high level

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<v Speaker 7>all season. He's been playing at an extremely high level

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<v Speaker 7>ever since the Charge Is traded for him in twenty

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<v Speaker 7>twenty two, both as a as a rusher, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>a pass rusher and in the run, in the run

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<v Speaker 7>game as a run defender. He's been a very elite player.

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<v Speaker 7>But they have a lot of depth at the position

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<v Speaker 7>Tooey twoy Polo Tu who was a second round pick

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<v Speaker 7>last year. He's playing at a really high level. He

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<v Speaker 7>brings a level of physicality to the edge as a

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<v Speaker 7>pass rusher and as a run defender. And then they

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<v Speaker 7>signed Bud Dupree in free agency. He had a couple

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<v Speaker 7>of sacks against the Titans on Sunday as well. So

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<v Speaker 7>we'll see what happens with Clion Mack. He's gonna work

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<v Speaker 7>through it, see where he's at. But if Clill Mack

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<v Speaker 7>is still sort of limited, Joey Bosa is still sort

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<v Speaker 7>of limited. They do have a second line of edge

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<v Speaker 7>rushers there in Bud Dupree and Tuy two Polo two,

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<v Speaker 7>who would frankly be starting for quite a number of

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<v Speaker 7>teams in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Our guest is Daniel Popper, who covers the Chargers for

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<v Speaker 1>the Athletic. Let's talk about this defense as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been incredible through ten games. They played a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of good offensive teams Kansas City and Arizona. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the teams they've played have been on the lower end

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<v Speaker 1>of the NFL's offensive statistics. Is that the big story

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<v Speaker 1>this week, Daniel Burrow, Chase hopefully Higgins against that great Chargers.

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<v Speaker 7>D Yeah, I know, I just left the locker room

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<v Speaker 7>about a half hour ago, and I get the sense that,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, these guys, especially on the back end, really

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<v Speaker 7>want to prove themselves and what better tests than than

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<v Speaker 7>this offense, and especially the way that Joe Burrow and

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<v Speaker 7>Jamar Chains have been playing this season. You know, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>there is a sense, you know within the locker room

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<v Speaker 7>that this is sort of a litmus test for this group.

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<v Speaker 7>As you mentioned, they haven't really played high level offense

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<v Speaker 7>of this season. You mentioned the Cardinals. I thought that

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<v Speaker 7>was one of the Chargers' worst defensive performances of the season.

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<v Speaker 7>They didn't tackle well against James Connor. They let Kyler

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<v Speaker 7>Murray get outside the pocket and score on a forty

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<v Speaker 7>four yard scramble touchdown. So when they've had to go

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<v Speaker 7>up against better offenses, and there's been a few opportunities

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<v Speaker 7>to season, I think we've seen a different version of

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<v Speaker 7>the defense. But the way I'm looking at it is,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I think Jim Harbaugh has raised the floor.

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<v Speaker 7>Defensive coordinator Jesse Minter has raised the floor for this unit,

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<v Speaker 7>which is better coaching, more cohesive coaching. But this is

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<v Speaker 7>a real test here about what the stealing of this

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<v Speaker 7>defense can really be. Are they what the statistics say,

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<v Speaker 7>are they really a top five unit or are they

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<v Speaker 7>not quite there yet with the talent that they have

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<v Speaker 7>on the roster. I think that's really the question that

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<v Speaker 7>we're going to see answered on Sunday against the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 8>For the Chargers, jesse Minner, the defensive coordinator it seems

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<v Speaker 8>like he's got an allergy with regard to explosives. I

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<v Speaker 8>mean he's not going to give any up. I mean

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<v Speaker 8>he keeps everything inside and in front of him. Defensively,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, it's like, try to make the offense take

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<v Speaker 8>multiple snaps, you know, ten twelve play drives increase the

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<v Speaker 8>chance for mistakes. If you can execute for that long

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<v Speaker 8>a timeframe, you know, God bless you, We're going to

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<v Speaker 8>make a play at some point in time. They're playing

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<v Speaker 8>very fast. It looks like in very free and very

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<v Speaker 8>very confidently. Is that pretty much the case. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 8>over complicate anything. It seems to be fairly simple concepts.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you're seeing it exactly right. I think talking to

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<v Speaker 7>players starting in training camp and then through the season,

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<v Speaker 7>the big thing that guys have talked about is that

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<v Speaker 7>jesse Minter has really simplified things. Now they do a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of disguise, there's a lot of posts, snap rotations.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think the big thing with jesse Minter is

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<v Speaker 7>that he's going at the speed at which his guys

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<v Speaker 7>can can execute the defense. He's not trying to do

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<v Speaker 7>complex stuff in the name of complexity. He wants his

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<v Speaker 7>players to be able to play fast, and I think

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<v Speaker 7>that's what you see in the field. You see a

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<v Speaker 7>level of physicality, You see how fast these guys are playing.

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<v Speaker 7>You see a lack of coverage bus. Now, there was

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<v Speaker 7>one on Sunday against the Titans that was probably their

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<v Speaker 7>worst coverage bus of the season where it looked like

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<v Speaker 7>where they were trying to rotate to a Cover two

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<v Speaker 7>look and there wasn't a safety to that side of

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<v Speaker 7>the field. But those have been few and far between.

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<v Speaker 7>I think you just have a scheme and a system

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<v Speaker 7>where the players really understand the ins and outs of it,

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<v Speaker 7>and the way that jesse Mentor has explained it is

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<v Speaker 7>when he simplified things in that way, then your players

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<v Speaker 7>can be can become problem solvers on the field. I

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<v Speaker 7>think that's what you're seeing. It's there's a level of

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<v Speaker 7>connectivity with the defense that just wasn't there under the

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<v Speaker 7>previous regime. He has these guys playing fast, and I

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<v Speaker 7>think they're able to limit mistakes because they really understand

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<v Speaker 7>it because he's not making it more complex than it

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<v Speaker 7>has to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel, the Chargers let Tenan Allen and Mike Williams go

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<v Speaker 1>after last year. I think a lot of people wondered

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<v Speaker 1>how good would the weapons be for Justin Herbert. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got a rookie wide receiver, h Luke McCaskey or McConkie,

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<v Speaker 1>rather Ladd McConkie. Excuse me, who's played well? He's their

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<v Speaker 1>leading receiver, got a former first round draft pick in

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<v Speaker 1>Quenton Johnston. How good is McConkie, How good is the group?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? I think Ladd McConkie is a real, really good

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<v Speaker 7>route runner. Now. The way they use him is a

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<v Speaker 7>lot in the slot, a lot of option routes, whip routes,

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<v Speaker 7>and he's very shifty. He has a really good understanding

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<v Speaker 7>of leverages. He can beat don't coverage, he can beat

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<v Speaker 7>man coverage, and he's really been a depth at operating

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<v Speaker 7>over the middle of the field. And I think his

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<v Speaker 7>knowledge and his ability to field defenders is a big

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<v Speaker 7>reason why Justin Herbert trust him, particularly in third down situation.

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<v Speaker 7>So he's a real dynamic player. You know, against the

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<v Speaker 7>Saints in Week eight, he was able to get down

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<v Speaker 7>the field on the slot fade and actually attack vertically.

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<v Speaker 7>He has the speed to do that. He's a four

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<v Speaker 7>to three to nine guy. We haven't seen a ton

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<v Speaker 7>of it. But you know, that's another thing that he's

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<v Speaker 7>potentially adding to his game sphere as he moves through

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<v Speaker 7>his rookie season, is potentially being able to attack vertically.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, Quinn Johnson has really developed. I think the

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<v Speaker 7>coaching staff deserves a ton of credit here, starting with

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<v Speaker 7>Jim Harbaugh, but especially wide receivers coach Sanjay Law, who

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<v Speaker 7>came over from Seattle where he worked with a good

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<v Speaker 7>group of receivers there and with the Seahawks, and he's

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<v Speaker 7>really gotten a ton out of Quinton Johnson. He looks

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<v Speaker 7>like a completely different player. His route running has really improved,

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<v Speaker 7>his hands have improved, how deceptive he is when facing cornerbacks,

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<v Speaker 7>is setting them up, all of that has really improved,

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<v Speaker 7>and he's really become a legitimate weapon now. The other

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<v Speaker 7>guy to keep an eye on his DJ Shark. He's

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<v Speaker 7>only played one stat ball season. He was on IR.

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<v Speaker 7>Last week was his first week he was active in

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<v Speaker 7>a game. They haven't really used him that much, but

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<v Speaker 7>obviously he's an experienced player and he could be a

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<v Speaker 7>factor here. So I think, like it's not an elite group,

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<v Speaker 7>but they have enough to get the job done. And

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<v Speaker 7>obviously they have a quarterback in Justin Herbert, who's going

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<v Speaker 7>to elevate the receiver? And I think that was the

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<v Speaker 7>vision going into it, and I think we're seeing that

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<v Speaker 7>materialize with how some of these guys are playing right now.

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<v Speaker 8>Not just a quarterback that's elevating receivers, but I mean

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<v Speaker 8>a guy that's taking care of the football man one

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<v Speaker 8>interception all year Long's he's pubbled at four times but

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<v Speaker 8>only lost one. And the knock on him, he was

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<v Speaker 8>a little bit of a turnover machine. I mean he

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<v Speaker 8>would average, like, you know, ten giveaways a season. Now

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<v Speaker 8>with Harrorball, he's got seven straight starts now without an interception.

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<v Speaker 8>That's the longest streak in the National Football League and

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<v Speaker 8>it's a Charger record. I mean, how big is that

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<v Speaker 8>fall security is that Herbert's showing.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's absolutely massive. And I think over the course

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<v Speaker 7>of his career, Justin Herbert has been very good at

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<v Speaker 7>avoiding turnovers. Some of those higher interception seasons, there were

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:36.879
<v Speaker 7>some slooky stuff that happened with deflected passes and wrong

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 7>routes run and that sort of stuff. I think overall,

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 7>he's been very good at protecting football. He's been very

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 7>good at avoiding sacks and avoiding negative plays. I think

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 7>it's been one of the best parts of his game

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<v Speaker 7>through his career. But that has been a point of emphasis.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, Jim Harbaugh, when I asked him about the

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<v Speaker 7>identity of the offense a couple of weeks ago, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>the third thing he mentioned was protecting the football. So

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<v Speaker 7>they've made it a big point of emphasis, and I

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 7>think Justin Herbert explain well when he said, like the

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<v Speaker 7>statement is that you know, sacs aren't the worst thing

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<v Speaker 7>in the world. Turnovers are the worst thing in the world.

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<v Speaker 7>And so what I think we've seen this season is

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<v Speaker 7>maybe he's been a bit more willing to take a

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.399
<v Speaker 7>sack here or there as opposed to trying to make

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 7>some sort of heroic play. And obviously in a lot

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 7>of those situations when you're escaping pressure, you're outside the pocket,

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:22.399
<v Speaker 7>and you're in those types of situations, that's and you're

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 7>throwing late in the down, that's where times where where

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 7>fluky things can happen, you get deflected passes, you can

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<v Speaker 7>make a poor decision. So they've emphasized it, and I

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 7>think Justin Herbert has really done a great job of

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<v Speaker 7>executing that. Taking facts when that is the better alternative,

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 7>not throwing late over the middle, and really being smart

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<v Speaker 7>about where he puts the football in certain situations, especially

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:48.799
<v Speaker 7>when he's throwing into single coverage, putting the ball into

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 7>windows where it's either his guy makes a play or

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 7>it's it's incomplete. And obviously like his talent allows him

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 7>to do that because he's so accurate. But that's been

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<v Speaker 7>a huge part of their ability to build these leads

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<v Speaker 7>and games and really avoid having those catastrophic negative plays offensively.

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