WEBVTT - Ep. 128: BEAR GREASE [RENDER] - Thalweg, Flintface, Landbridge, and a River Quiz 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.239 My name is Clay Nukleman. This is a production of 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:21.400 the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, where 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:25.760 we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:31.320 of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by FHF Gear, 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:36.520 American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear that's designed 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.320 to be as rugged as the place as we explore. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.040 Josh, Yes, what about Jeremiah Johnson? Okay, so. 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:56.640 Last week I apparently slowed down just enough for COVID 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:59.280 to catch up with me. I have been running hard 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.320 for three and a half years and have managed to 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:06.000 dodge it. And for the very first time ever, I 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:11.479 get COVID and I'm laying in bed feeling terrible, and 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.480 I thought I was I was actually scrolling through one 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.640 of my movie streaming services. I don't remember which one 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.800 it was, and lo and behold what pops up Jeremiah Johnson. 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.240 And I thought I need a little pick me up, 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:29.959 so I just I kicked that bad boy on and 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.120 you know, he rolls off the river boat there, and 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.160 I'm thinking, this is just gonna be awesome. 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:35.240 You've never seen that. 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.679 I've never seen it, you know, fighting bear. I'm sure 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.000 there's gonna be bear fights. I'm sure there's gonna be 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.400 shooting game, you know. I'm just really looking forward it. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:47.520 Having been a kid who grew up on the Wilderness family, Yeah, 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.280 I mean those were like the greatest movies ever when 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.720 I was a kid. I've seen that thing a hundred times. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.240 So and then a few minutes later, Christy comes in, 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:01.200 lays down and she she's Sart's watching watching it, and 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.520 she's like, no, no, what's going on? What's going on? 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.480 So I kind of give her a quick rundown and 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.280 she starts watching it with me. Talk about an emotional 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:09.040 roller coaster. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.160 That's a tovey spoiler. Is everybody in here seen it? 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:13.959 I don't even know what you're talking about. 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:15.480 Johnson the movie? 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:17.120 Ever seen it? Oh? 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.760 You're? I thought it's considered one of the American greats. 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.880 You are. It's Robert Redford is a frontier. 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.120 Josh's Mississippi in education, we're always just one step ahead 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:27.960 of Mississippi. 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.160 But so Josh has finally seen the movie and you 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.200 had I was. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.560 What what stood out to you the most significant thing 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:36.160 about the movie. 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.120 We are about to spoil this movie. 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:42.760 Yeah, the movie was made in nineteen seventy four, okay, 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:45.160 or whenever it was made. 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:46.760 I didn't. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.840 I thought it was going to be like again, having 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.360 been raised on the Wilderness family, I thought it was 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.040 going to be a great you know there. Surely there 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.240 had to be something redeeming in the end. And in 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.480 the end, the redeeming thing was the hand up by 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:04.040 the lone Indian there and he waves back. 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.880 But the the death and destruction. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.760 Man, it was a lot of death instruction. 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.720 Yeah, I mean I didn't see the until you know, 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:15.520 he gets the look on his face when he's in 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.720 the burial ground like, oh my god, they're going to 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:20.000 kill his wife. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.359 He knew what was coming. And yeah, well but it 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:25.560 was a great movie. 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.160 Very well done nineteen seventy two. 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:28.560 I have to be honest and say I did have 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.280 to turn on the subtitles a couple of times just 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:31.440 to catch everything that was said. 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:35.920 Oh really really yeah. So Will Primos. Will Primos, who 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.320 was on this episode of the Mississippi River Bear Grease, 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:45.320 is a big, big Jeremiah Johnson movie buff. He has 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:50.680 in his office. He has some original photography from the 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:54.760 set like nobody else has, and he I got big 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:55.440 time Jeremiah. 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.160 This is for This is for Robert Redford and that beard. 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:00.000 It's a good beard. 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:01.120 That's a good beard. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:03.560 Makes a meme to send to people. 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:04.680 Yeah, welcome to. 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:08.600 The Welcome to the Bender everybody, if if you are 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.920 new to the bear Grease universe. The Bear Grease Render 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.560 is where we talk about the actual bear Grease podcast, 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:20.400 which is our documentary style podcast. This week we had 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:25.360 a very what I thought was what I loved the episode. 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.160 I learned so much about the Mississippi River. So we're 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.320 going to talk about that. But before that, we have 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.719 we have some very special guests this week on the 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.599 Bear Grease Render. To my right, we have Josh Landbridge, spilmmaker, 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:43.320 old faithful fly fishing, extraordinary mustache case somebody hasn't has 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:48.320 just been on another planet Josh's Josh's nickname land Bridge 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:52.520 came about circa two thousand and eight when one day 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.760 at a meeting at our church I looked at Josh 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:01.160 and his mustache inspired me to read a book on 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:05.400 the baring land Bridge. This is not a joke. I 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.719 mean for real, I'm literally talking to the guy and 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:12.719 I'm looking at this huge mustache that spanned the right 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:13.480 cheek to the. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.960 Left cheek of his face. 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.800 Yeah, it was like Alaska and Russia. And I was 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:23.719 like impressed, I said, I said, I know nothing about 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.200 the baring Land Bridge. And I went and bought a 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:30.200 book that's up here called Barringia. And so Josh to 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:35.480 Josh's right, Our dear friend, longtime friend, Arrell Spence Spencer. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:37.640 Could I change the Spence for thal Wag. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.920 Ooh, that's a good name. Yeah, that's a good name, 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:48.040 Terrell thal Wag Spencer at the bottom Wag means the 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:52.760 bottom of the river. Spence is our local pastured poultry 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:54.799 man across the Creek farms. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:55.600 Good to have you. 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:57.560 Spence has been on here several times. He's been a 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.760 featured guest on the Bear Grease podcast. 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:01.560 Yeah, unlike some of us. 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:05.200 Unlike some of us. Yeah, we're gonna skip over the 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:09.120 mystery guests and go to Brent Reeves his country Life 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:10.800 Good to see you, brother, good to be How you 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:11.480 doing good? 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:12.480 And great podcast? 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:13.560 How's this country Life? 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:14.400 Good man? 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:15.200 Rocking and rolling? 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.000 It's just it gets. 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.880 Better and better, keeps getting better and better. Yeah, Hey, 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.040 Brent Reeves is an incredible writer. You might not know it, 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:27.440 but the writing like this the This Country Life podcast, 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.840 which is also on this bear Grease feed. If you're 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.719 paying attention, you know this. If you're not, you do 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.320 now if you're paying attention now. But so, Brent has 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.360 a podcast that comes out every Friday on the bear 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:42.160 Grease Feed. It's about twenty thirty minutes long. And this 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.320 would be something that he would write out. I mean, 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.880 you don't really sense that when you're listening. It just 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.520 sounds like a story, but it's actually written out and. 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:52.680 Something that's not fantastic. 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:53.760 It's really really. 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.760 Wouldn't think you were that interested in like watermelons. 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.560 I thought that Watermelon podcast was fan fantastic. 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.200 Yeah, thank you, Josh. Yeah, it's actually been my favorite 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:04.800 one so far. 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.640 I honestly, it's in the in the running for me. 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:10.920 It's it's in what it is when you get down 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.880 to the granular nature of it really is is excellent writing. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:15.360 Yeah, Brett, do you want. 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.640 To tell him how the Watermelon podcast came about? 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:19.400 Yeah? 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.480 You and I were coming back from matter of fact, 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:22.680 what we're talking about right. 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:23.720 Now, Mississippi River. 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:27.680 Yeah, episode we went down there with talk to doctor David. 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.040 You have to say pronounce it last. 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.720 Night, Yeah, Biden Horn and we were on the way 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.960 back and we just started talking about you know what, 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:36.880 what's what's the next podcast going to be about? 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:38.960 We started kicking ideas around. He said, you know what 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:39.440 you ought to do? 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:40.400 Watermelons? 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.440 And he said it is he said, he said, I 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.680 don't care what you do, but I'm want this included 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.040 in it. I said, all right, what's that? 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.800 He said, I, Clay Nukem, have vowed to myself to 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:55.040 eat a watermelon every day of watermelons. 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:58.760 Just to clarify, it's not a whole watermelon, some watermelon, 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.640 it's some water No. Really, we were deep in the 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.559 heart of watermelon country. I bought a watermelon this week 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:08.640 at in Arkansas that was grown in Mississippi. What Yeah, 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.240 it had grown in Mississippi on it. We're deep in 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.080 the in the heartland of watermelon country. And I just 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.040 I just said, Brent, I really want to hear you 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:18.720 talk about watermelons. 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:19.280 Yeah. 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:20.400 So that's what he did. 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.440 He was, great, you might have heard of the whole 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.400 thirty Yeah, and you know, we're like, you do this 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.200 horrible restrictive diet for thirty days, bringe your family's lives 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:34.120 and in the hopes of like like cleansing your body 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:40.240 from whatever. Anyway, Yeah, it might bring some out. But 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.040 Clay does a He does a watermelon thirty. 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.719 Watermelon sixty from first to August thirtieth. 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.439 And when he's doing the watermelon thirty. 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.520 Don't look like this. On accident, the kids and I have. 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.000 Committed to doing an ice cream where we ice cream 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:59.920 all thirty days of during this there's a parallel. Water 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.360 thirty is ice cream thirty. 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.680 So to Brince, we're still intro Oh, I got I 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:09.199 got to speed it up here we're deep to Brin's right, 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:11.920 my lovely wife, mistery Newkelem. Great to have you, doctor. 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.000 Nukelem, Thank you so good to be here. Thank you 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.200 for that formal introduction. 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:20.480 Yes, yes, but our mystery guest is Ryan flint Face. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.200 Yeah I know. 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:28.800 Hey, if you've been paying attention to Bear Hunting magazine 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.240 stuff that I've done in the last decade, Ryan Greb 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.840 is one of my dear friends from for a long time. 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:40.880 We've been buddies, and Ryan is man to describe. Okay, 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.680 first of all, flint Face. The first time I saw 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.800 a picture of Ryan, it was on the Arkansas Game 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.600 and Fish website and they just randomly selected his photo 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.000 of a bear Heed killed to be on the page. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:52.679 Do you remember that? 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:53.120 I do? 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:57.000 And I on accident, I was like, no, I don't 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:57.959 want to be the face of. 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.199 The So yeah, he was the face of the game 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.480 Fish bear page. And it was this beautiful photo, this 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.560 huge bear, and he just had a face like Flint, 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.640 I mean, like Wooden crack a smile and for every 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.880 picture I've got him to smile since then. But Ryan 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.800 doesn't do much smiling in the photos. But Ryan, I 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:20.480 told Bear this the other day, there's not many people 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.400 in this state that are better outdoorsman than Ryan Grebb. 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.839 I mean, you want to talk deer hunting, you want 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.000 to talk bear hunting, you want to talk track fishing, 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:34.320 you want to talk turkey hunting, you want to talk 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.960 food plots, you want to talk anything. This guy is 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:45.520 subject Yeah, yeah, no, okay, I gotta keep going with Ryan, though. 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.800 I still stand by this and somebody, if somebody proves 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.600 me wrong, that's great. I like to throw out big 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.000 stats and then if somebody can prove me wrong, then 0:10:56.040 --> 0:11:00.600 that's great. I think Ryan Greb has killed more bear 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:05.320 per weight than anybody and that's alive in Arkansas today. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:06.480 What mean? 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.280 Yeah? 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:17.959 No, Like Ryan has killed more bare pounds pounds per pounds, 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:23.480 per pounds of bear. He's killed more pounds per person, 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:27.360 pounds of per person kill. I mean, there's a lot 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.480 of guys that have killed big bears, and and certainly 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.760 some incredible bear hunters that have killed like you know, 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.400 they've killed like two five hundred pound bears, and then 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.400 and then you know some three hundred's and this and 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.720 this and this Ryan is killed. I mean, we don't 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:45.280 have to get into the details, but lots of for 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.440 twenty five years, he's killed big against. 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.120 I've laid off of them the last three four or 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.040 five years, so I'm sure somebody give them. 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:57.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, well you were, you were hunting bears 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.000 in the glory years of the Arkansas bear days. Though, Yeah, 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.800 when you're baiting bears, it gets harder and harder. I mean, 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.480 I'm pretty solidified on that statement. I'm not saying it's 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.880 you can't kill a big bear in Arkansas anymore. People 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:13.480 do every year. But the first ten twelve years when 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.880 we could bait bears, it was you. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.360 We was a learning curve all them. 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:21.800 Now every bear, every bear that's alive, has their whole 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:26.000 life been been under some baiting sea. 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:30.800 It was easy first five, six, seven years, you know. Yeah, 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.920 but now you've got generations of bears that is born 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.599 and raised into the baiting game. And yeah, it's a 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:40.040 different bear now, yes, and just more people out your 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.040 average bears. Yeah. 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.520 Hey, I want you to tell us the story of 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.360 when that cub you told this to river and bear 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.440 the other day. I don't want to spoil the story, 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:51.520 you know what I'm talking about. 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:56.720 Yeah, And I'd actually had forgotten about that. Sitting in 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.360 the tree middle of the day, I'd sitting all day 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:04.240 bear hunting, Yes, and it was hot, you know, NAT's 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.480 biting you ninety degrees, and I just looked down the 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.640 hill and I see bear coming. Here comes another one 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.400 as I, oh, it's a sal. One ends up being triplets, 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:17.080 you know, so three cubs they come up there and 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.760 feet around, you know, do their moaning and squalling. And 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.760 I think I'd kind of forgotten about this till they 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.400 brought it up the other day. I think the sal 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.520 winded me went to popping her jaws, and one cub 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.560 took off running and ran right to my tree, scurried 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.880 right up past me and got even with me, and 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.440 I scared it and it ran out on the end 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.040 of this limb. He just got way out there to 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.640 where he couldn't hold no more, and he was trying 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:51.920 and trying and trying. He fell off, hit so hard 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:56.280 he bounced like a basketball, knocked him silly. He took off, 0:13:56.360 --> 0:14:01.800 running towards his mom and SIB and ran head on 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:06.160 into an oak tree and not silly again, and laid 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.640 there like it just like he just killed himself. But 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.760 he gathered his thoughts and off he went. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:17.040 Survival of you and you were probably twenty plus. 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.640 I was probably twenty two twenty three feet up. 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.240 So the cub runs up the tree, sees you like 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.440 you could have like poked it down the balls, Yeah, 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.000 and it runs out on the limb, falls out of 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.520 the tree, bounces like a basketball from a twenty two 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:35.800 to twenty three foot fall. Yes, sir been sprints towards 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.000 his mom and t bones and oak tree like. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:39.720 He'd never seen the tree. 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:40.720 I guess. 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:45.240 He just says, yeah, and he hit it hard. Wow, 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.000 And like I say, he just knocked him for a loop. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.480 He had together his thoughts and off he went. And 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.760 I was like, well, that was my fun for the afternoon, 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:56.760 was Yeah. 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.480 What's the biggest bear you've killed Darkansas? Well anywhere, but 0:14:58.520 --> 0:14:59.640 I think Dancer will. 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:04.520 Be in five Was it five oweight or that's a bear? Yeah? 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:08.760 I shot one the next year. The five O eight 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:12.000 I didn't think was all that big when I shot it. 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:17.200 The next year, I'm talking a true monster come in 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:21.200 and I was like, if this bear ain't six hundred pounds, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.120 you know? And I had a ten twelve yards thought. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:27.240 I made a perfect shot and never found the bear, 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:31.160 And I would love to go back in time to 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.560 that day to do. 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:34.040 All over it. 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.240 Yeah, probably shot it too low. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.080 I think I hit it too far forward, is what 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:40.560 I think. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:42.800 Too far forward, too far forward? 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.080 Yeah, How big do bears get in Arkansas? Oklahoma? 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:46.240 Like? 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:47.440 What would be the record? 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:51.960 I mean there? Unfortunately, there's no weight record keeping systems 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:56.239 because it's too arbitrary in terms of having certified scales 0:15:56.280 --> 0:16:00.440 and gutted weight versus live weight, so that that's not 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:04.320 the way people measure them. But I have heard of 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:08.240 a six hundred and fifty pound bear that I think 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:12.680 was legitimate. Have you heard of any bigger than Arkansas? 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.960 No? I haven't, So this was up there that it was. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:21.880 It had a you know. It had the frame monsters 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:27.600 pigeon toad, big blockhead, but its belly was pretty much 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:32.840 dragging the ground. He literally there was a fence force 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:38.200 fence and the bottom strands was broke, and I can't 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.760 remember there's one strand or two strands above it. He 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:46.560 got down on his elbows and pulled himself under, not 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:50.120 with his front feet, with his elbows when he come 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:51.040 onto the property. 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:53.040 That's three and half four feet. 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:59.240 Yeah, but it was a monster, a true monster. Yeah. 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:03.400 They can for sure, way over six hundred here, you know, 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:08.440 but it's it's being abnormal though it would be abnormal, yeah, 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.400 for sure. But they make them that big now, they 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:15.440 make them that big they do. What do you have 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.640 any what's your most memorable bear hunt? 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:17.960 Ryan? 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.560 Probably the booner I killed up here in Zone one 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:27.199 on a buddy's place by the had the old rock fireplace, 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.920 some beautiful pictures. Yeah, that was. I never even got 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.000 in the tree. Just as I was sneaking into the bait, 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.800 I seen him making his way up to the bait. 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.320 I lost sight of him and I was like, well 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:43.400 to back out of here. 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.160 He went in there at like one o'clock. 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.960 Yeah, because I kept getting pictures of this bear. He 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.359 never would come at night. He always showed up in 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.359 the day, like every hour of the day, except I 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:55.720 noticed from one o'clock to two o'clock I wouldn't get 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.720 no pictures of him. I was like, that's when I 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.720 need to ease in. Well, as I'm easing in there, 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:08.040 I'm forty yards from the bait site my stand and 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.199 I see him come up out of the woods to 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:14.879 the bait. But there's so much foliage I couldn't, you know, 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:18.840 lost sight of him. So I thought, should I back out, 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:20.960 go to the top of the hill, give him half hour, 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.280 ease back down here, see if he's left. But I'm like, 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:27.840 I'm practically in bowl range as it is, the wind 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.200 is right. I want to see if I can ease 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.560 up and get a shot at him. So I took 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:36.600 my boots off just sot feet, eased up there, eased 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:40.639 up there, got within about twelve yards and I couldn't 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:42.879 see him, but I could hear him. I could hear 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:49.240 him smacking. Yeah, there was golden rod, you know, the 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:53.720 yellow flowers, and he was behind that that was blocking 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.960 my view. And I spotted him at twelve yards but 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:00.639 he's laying down, so I eased up here a little closer, 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:04.320 and there's one window between these golden rods. I thought, 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.520 if he will turn, I can slip an arrow through 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:12.520 that little four inch window. And the bear never got up. 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:16.520 He pulled himself around and while he's laying on the 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:20.080 ground and reached in the hole in the barrel to 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.440 grab more bait out. And when he did, put one 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:25.119 right behind his armpit. 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:29.679 It was that bear weighed three No, it was four 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:34.480 four twenty something, yeah, and he had a but he 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.119 had an over twenty inch skull. 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.240 Twenty you scored a twenty and five. 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:43.160 Twenty five sixteenth or something, which is over the Boone 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:43.960 crocket minimum. 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:44.720 That's a horse. 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.199 Yeah, And what's wild about all these bears? You can 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:49.119 kill a five hundred pound bear that doesn't make Boone 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.399 crock Yeah. The biggest bear that I ever killed Boone 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:58.119 Crockett score weighed three fifty five or something interesting. And 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.520 then the biggest weight bear that have ever were killed 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:04.879 for weighed five point fifty. Did not make Boone Crockett. 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:07.760 Batman didn't make Bonnacrost. 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.000 He did not make Boone Crockett. So is it just 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:13.560 a frame well, that they're measuring the skull. So for 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.280 a bear, you measure the length and width of the skull. 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.480 So part of it is genetic, just like I might 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.080 have a bigger head than you, even though you're taller 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:21.399 than me. 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:23.800 That's not if you do have a big I. 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:32.360 Have a big head, saying yeah, it's kind of like that, 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.960 and then a I still really haven't decided. I have 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:39.240 never talked to anybody that gave me a convintion biologist, 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.960 anybody in the country that has given me a legitimately 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:46.159 scientific answer of whether a bear adds mass to his 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:51.560 skull with age. Do you understand because people have that idea, Oh, 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:53.760 that's a twenty year old bear, he's going to be 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:57.400 boone Crockett. Not necessarily because if he was a smaller 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:01.680 skulled bear or an average skulled bear. But but there's 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.400 an idea that their skulls get bigger or widen or 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.879 thicken with time. And I've yet to find a biologists 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.760 and including some really top level guys, that have been 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:16.040 able to tell me whether bear really his skull gets bigger. 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:20.560