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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Nukleman. This is a production of

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Speaker 1: the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, where

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Speaker 1: we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by FHF Gear,

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Speaker 1: American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear that's designed

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Speaker 1: to be as rugged as the place as we explore.

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Speaker 2: Josh, Yes, what about Jeremiah Johnson? Okay, so.

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Speaker 3: Last week I apparently slowed down just enough for COVID

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Speaker 3: to catch up with me. I have been running hard

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Speaker 3: get COVID and I'm laying in bed feeling terrible, and

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Speaker 3: I thought I was I was actually scrolling through one

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Speaker 3: of my movie streaming services. I don't remember which one

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Speaker 3: it was, and lo and behold what pops up Jeremiah Johnson.

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Speaker 3: And I thought I need a little pick me up,

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Speaker 3: so I just I kicked that bad boy on and

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Speaker 3: you know, he rolls off the river boat there, and

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking, this is just gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 4: You've never seen that.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen it, you know, fighting bear. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: there's gonna be bear fights. I'm sure there's gonna be

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Speaker 3: shooting game, you know. I'm just really looking forward it.

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Speaker 3: Having been a kid who grew up on the Wilderness family, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean those were like the greatest movies ever when

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Speaker 3: I was a kid. I've seen that thing a hundred times.

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Speaker 3: So and then a few minutes later, Christy comes in,

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Speaker 3: she's like, no, no, what's going on? What's going on?

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Speaker 3: So I kind of give her a quick rundown and

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Speaker 3: she starts watching it with me. Talk about an emotional

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Speaker 2: That's a tovey spoiler. Is everybody in here seen it?

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Speaker 5: I don't even know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Johnson the movie?

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Speaker 5: Ever seen it? Oh?

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Speaker 1: You're? I thought it's considered one of the American greats.

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Speaker 2: You are. It's Robert Redford is a frontier.

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Speaker 6: Josh's Mississippi in education, we're always just one step ahead

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Speaker 2: But so Josh has finally seen the movie and you

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Speaker 2: had I was.

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Speaker 1: What what stood out to you the most significant thing

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Speaker 4: We are about to spoil this movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the movie was made in nineteen seventy four, okay,

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Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be like again, having

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Speaker 3: going to be a great you know there. Surely there

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Speaker 3: had to be something redeeming in the end. And in

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Speaker 3: the end, the redeeming thing was the hand up by

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Speaker 3: the lone Indian there and he waves back.

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Speaker 2: But the the death and destruction.

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Speaker 1: Man, it was a lot of death instruction.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I didn't see the until you know,

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Speaker 2: He knew what was coming. And yeah, well but it

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Speaker 2: was a great movie.

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Speaker 4: Very well done nineteen seventy two.

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Speaker 1: Oh really really yeah. So Will Primos. Will Primos, who

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Speaker 1: was on this episode of the Mississippi River Bear Grease,

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Speaker 1: is a big, big Jeremiah Johnson movie buff. He has

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Speaker 2: This is for This is for Robert Redford and that beard.

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Speaker 4: It's a good beard.

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Speaker 2: That's a good beard.

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Speaker 4: Makes a meme to send to people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to.

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Speaker 1: The Welcome to the Bender everybody, if if you are

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Speaker 1: new to the bear Grease universe. The Bear Grease Render

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Speaker 1: which is our documentary style podcast. This week we had

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Speaker 1: I learned so much about the Mississippi River. So we're

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Speaker 1: Bear Grease Render. To my right, we have Josh Landbridge, spilmmaker,

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Speaker 1: just been on another planet Josh's Josh's nickname land Bridge

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Speaker 1: the baring land Bridge. This is not a joke. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like Alaska and Russia. And I was

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Speaker 1: book that's up here called Barringia. And so Josh to

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Speaker 1: Josh's right, Our dear friend, longtime friend, Arrell Spence Spencer.

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Speaker 5: Could I change the Spence for thal Wag.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good name. Yeah, that's a good name,

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Speaker 1: Terrell thal Wag Spencer at the bottom Wag means the

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Speaker 2: Good to have you.

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Speaker 1: Spence has been on here several times. He's been a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unlike some of us.

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Speaker 1: Unlike some of us. Yeah, we're gonna skip over the

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Speaker 1: mystery guests and go to Brent Reeves his country Life

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Speaker 1: Good to see you, brother, good to be How you

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Speaker 1: doing good?

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Speaker 5: And great podcast?

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Speaker 1: How's this country Life?

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Speaker 2: Good man?

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Speaker 1: Rocking and rolling?

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Speaker 2: It's just it gets.

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Speaker 1: Better and better, keeps getting better and better. Yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Brent Reeves is an incredible writer. You might not know it,

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Speaker 1: but the writing like this the This Country Life podcast,

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Speaker 1: which is also on this bear Grease feed. If you're

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Speaker 1: now if you're paying attention now. But so, Brent has

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Speaker 5: Something that's not fantastic.

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Speaker 2: It's really really.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't think you were that interested in like watermelons.

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Speaker 2: I thought that Watermelon podcast was fan fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I honestly, it's in the in the running for me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Brett, do you want.

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Speaker 1: To tell him how the Watermelon podcast came about?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: You and I were coming back from matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: Now, Mississippi River.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, episode we went down there with talk to doctor David.

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Speaker 2: We started kicking ideas around. He said, you know what

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Speaker 5: Watermelons?

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Speaker 2: And he said it is he said, he said, I

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Speaker 6: He said, I, Clay Nukem, have vowed to myself to

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Speaker 1: it's some water No. Really, we were deep in the

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Speaker 1: heart of watermelon country. I bought a watermelon this week

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Speaker 1: the in the heartland of watermelon country. And I just

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Speaker 1: I just said, Brent, I really want to hear you

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Clay does a He does a watermelon thirty.

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Speaker 1: Watermelon sixty from first to August thirtieth.

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Speaker 1: my lovely wife, mistery Newkelem. Great to have you, doctor.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but our mystery guest is Ryan flint Face.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I know.

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Speaker 1: Hey, if you've been paying attention to Bear Hunting magazine

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Speaker 1: stuff that I've done in the last decade, Ryan Greb

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Speaker 1: is one of my dear friends from for a long time.

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Speaker 1: We've been buddies, and Ryan is man to describe. Okay,

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Speaker 1: first of all, flint Face. The first time I saw

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Speaker 1: Do you remember that?

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Speaker 2: I do?

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Speaker 5: And I on accident, I was like, no, I don't

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Speaker 1: The So yeah, he was the face of the game

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Speaker 1: Fish bear page. And it was this beautiful photo, this

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Speaker 1: I mean, like Wooden crack a smile and for every

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Speaker 1: told Bear this the other day, there's not many people

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Speaker 1: I mean, you want to talk deer hunting, you want

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Speaker 1: subject Yeah, yeah, no, okay, I gotta keep going with Ryan, though.

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Speaker 1: I still stand by this and somebody, if somebody proves

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Speaker 1: that's great. I think Ryan Greb has killed more bear

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Speaker 1: No, Like Ryan has killed more bare pounds pounds per pounds,

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Speaker 5: I've laid off of them the last three four or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well you were, you were hunting bears

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Speaker 2: We was a learning curve all them.

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Speaker 1: Now every bear, every bear that's alive, has their whole

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Speaker 5: It was easy first five, six, seven years, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Hey, I want you to tell us the story of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'd actually had forgotten about that. Sitting in

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Speaker 1: Survival of you and you were probably twenty plus.

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Speaker 5: I was probably twenty two twenty three feet up.

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Speaker 1: So the cub runs up the tree, sees you like

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Speaker 5: He'd never seen the tree.

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Speaker 5: He just says, yeah, and he hit it hard. Wow,

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Speaker 5: And like I say, he just knocked him for a loop.

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Speaker 1: What's the biggest bear you've killed Darkansas? Well anywhere, but

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Speaker 5: Be in five Was it five oweight or that's a bear? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I shot one the next year. The five O eight

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Speaker 2: All over it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably shot it too low.

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Speaker 5: I think I hit it too far forward, is what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, How big do bears get in Arkansas? Oklahoma?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 5: What would be the record?

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Speaker 1: I mean there? Unfortunately, there's no weight record keeping systems

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Speaker 5: No? I haven't, So this was up there that it was.

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Speaker 2: That's three and half four feet.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was a monster, a true monster. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They can for sure, way over six hundred here, you know,

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Speaker 5: Probably the booner I killed up here in Zone one

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Speaker 5: some beautiful pictures. Yeah, that was. I never even got

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Speaker 1: He went in there at like one o'clock.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because I kept getting pictures of this bear. He

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Speaker 1: It was that bear weighed three No, it was four

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Speaker 5: Twenty you scored a twenty and five.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five sixteenth or something, which is over the Boone

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Speaker 2: That's a horse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And what's wild about all these bears? You can

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Speaker 1: Crockett score weighed three fifty five or something interesting. And

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Speaker 1: He did not make Boone Crockett. So is it just

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Speaker 1: So part of it is genetic, just like I might

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Speaker 1: But hey, on one, maybe not the last. Maybe just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll just say I think it's the coolest thing

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Speaker 4: because our kids, they've they've gone with Ryan and Clay

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Speaker 4: And I was like, well, I can't. I mean, truly,

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Speaker 5: Don't I think about that from time to town? You know,

442
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 5: one of these days you.

443
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, there's there's I remember one year we went

444
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: and somebody had like maybe died.

445
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 5: Yeah they usually do.

446
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, from just being in that nasty water. It

447
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: wasn't in this water system we were in, but it

448
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: was like kind of in the realm of where we're at.

449
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 4: I hate this story, and.

450
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean it's like what you do?

451
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 4: You just say yeah and pull back in reverse that.

452
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: And then Ryan and his buddies have their big time noodlers.

453
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 4: And now our kids just kind of bypassed Clay and

454
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 4: call right. I don't even care if in town.

455
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 5: Called me and said, hey, you got to get my

456
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 5: kids out of the house, rivers watching the Kardashian get

457
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 5: them involved than something.

458
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: I got your Clay, I got you.

459
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 5: They had it.

460
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: They had a great time though. Now we've had a

461
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: lot of fun over the years. And you know, y'all

462
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: rarely keep a fish. No, I mean, like hardly ever

463
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: catch so many fish and rarely keep a fish. When

464
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: the new coms going Newland, we keep we have we

465
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: don't keep them all, but we usually keep one big

466
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: flatthead a year that will have a big fish fry,

467
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: well multiple fish fries, and uh so, anyway, we like

468
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: some flathead.

469
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 5: When I talked to Clay yesterday is like, I'm sure

470
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 5: there's no flathead left and you're probably just gnawing on

471
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 5: the head the spine or something like that.

472
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: So the story that I want Ryan to tell us

473
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: to tell came because the kids reminded me of it.

474
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: But when we were in Canada and the first trip

475
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: that I ever did for Bear Hunting magazine, which kind

476
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: of marked like an era of my life when I

477
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: started traveling and hunting, and for about a decade I

478
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: prioritized bear hunting over all other types of hunting and

479
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: was traveling all over hunting. Just it was an incredible time.

480
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: That first year I had Bear Hunting magazine, I got

481
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: the opportunity to go to Ontario, Canada in the fall,

482
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: and we put it together pretty quick and Ryan was

483
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: ready to go. I called Ryan and he was like,

484
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: let's go. And whose bear was it that you? Almost?

485
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 2: Do?

486
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. I don't want to

487
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: give away the spoiler. We were loading a bear on

488
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: the four wheeler? Was it my bear? Okay? Well, we

489
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: go with this outfitter and we weren't incredibly impressed at first,

490
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: just by the looks of where we were at. It

491
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: was kind of a do it yourself deal. They gave

492
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: you a camper and some bear bait and had some

493
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: places set up and just were kind of like you're

494
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: on your own, which we knew that, so we were happy,

495
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: very happy about that. But we hunted for two or

496
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: three days and just hadn't seen much. And finally on

497
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: the third day they didn't have cameras out or anything.

498
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: And on the third day, I kill a giant bear.

499
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: I mean just a giant, one of the biggest bears

500
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: I've ever killed.

501
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 5: It was a whopper.

502
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: We weren't able to weigh it, but we were shocked,

503
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: and I killed it with my trad bow and right

504
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: and I were kind of thinking we were going to

505
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: go home skunk and so easily four hundred plus.

506
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: Well, we did wet four.

507
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 5: Two or something, right.

508
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: We did wet, yeah, four thirty seven.

509
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

510
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: Cautious about weights. I was thinking we didn't wet on

511
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: the hoof, Yeah, guts and all.

512
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 5: It had the biggest front pads of any bear I've

513
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 5: ever seen. I mean it was huge.

514
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it did not score Boon and Crockett it

515
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: it green scored before drying twenty and one sixteenth and

516
00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: dried under twenty.

517
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: Wow.

518
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: But it was a great bear. Nine years old.

519
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 4: It's twenty of them.

520
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: Twenty is the boonekrouckt minimum twenty one is the all time. Okay,

521
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: it's a complicated story, but we're loading this bear up

522
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: on a four wheeler four hundred. We'd gutted it by now,

523
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: so it weighed less than that we're putting it on

524
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: the rack of a four wheeler. And what happened.

525
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 5: Y'all were on the ground gonna lift. I got up

526
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 5: on top of the four wheeler, which is four wheeler

527
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 5: had like a bed on the back of it, a rack. Yeah,

528
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 5: and I was gonna pull as they were gonna lift. Well,

529
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 5: this bear weighed four hundred something pounds. You think, well,

530
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a struggle. Well, when it was one, two, three,

531
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 5: I pulled, they lifted. Will that come up way too fast?

532
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 5: I had one foot in the bed of that four

533
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 5: wheeler and they put that bear up on my leg

534
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 5: and pushed me off the four wheeler. Well, everything went

535
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 5: off the four wheeler except my.

536
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: Is on the rack, up against the rack. The bear

537
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: comes over the top and pins his foot on the rack,

538
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: and Ryan falls off the four wheeler.

539
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 5: No, it had a like a bed, like a six

540
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 5: inch Yeah, I thought it did.

541
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 1: Man, Hey, when I saw it happen, I still cringe

542
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: when I think about it, because I thought our trip

543
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: to Canada is about to get really weird because we're

544
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: going to be and Ryan's broke. I mean, I didn't

545
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: know how it would be physically possible for because his

546
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: foot never moved and his body is on the ground.

547
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: I still, to this day don't know how it didn't break.

548
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 5: You still don't have I've got an ankle bone here.

549
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 4: Hold on, let's see.

550
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: Let's see that.

551
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 5: There's an ankle bone here, not one there shifted over?

552
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 4: Does it feel funny?

553
00:28:59,320 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 5: No?

554
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: Can you see in the dark? Yeah?

555
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was bad. It was gonna be bad.

556
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: And he just kind of bounces up and just kind

557
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: of like lamps around for a minute, and he's like,

558
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: all right, we're good man.

559
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: You know why I don't smile.

560
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 5: That's when I was like, yeah, I was like at

561
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 5: the threshold of something was fixed to shatter.

562
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: All right, well, Mississippi River Podcast. You guys don't know it,

563
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: but there's a quiz we're gonna so we just we

564
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: just started a three part series, Mississippi River. It's gonna

565
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: be a significant series. Let me let me start off

566
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: by saying, this is one of the hardest series that

567
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: I've ever done, because everybody, well, first of all, if

568
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell a story about the Mississippi River, like,

569
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like, it's not like David

570
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: Crockett or or something really specific there's there's always you know,

571
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: with that, there's this definitive data that you have. The

572
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: Mississippi River is just a big story. And I just

573
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: knew there was kind of a hole in my understanding

574
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: of this country by not knowing a lot about the

575
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: Mississippi River. So I started going to experts, and I

576
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: knew there were certain categories of interest that I had

577
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: which I wanted to know about the natural system of

578
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: the river, just as it stands as a natural feature,

579
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: like the Rocky Mountains, the Mississippi River, the Pacific Ocean,

580
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: you know. So I wanted to understand the dynamics of

581
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: the river. Number one. Number two, I wanted to understand

582
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: the culture, how that river has influenced culture, particularly on

583
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: the lower Mississippi. That's that's where most of my interests lay.

584
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: And so I knew knew I needed to talk to people.

585
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: I also wanted to learn about the fishery of the

586
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: Mississippi River, like I'm interested in the wildlife and the fisheries.

587
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: And so I started going to all these different people,

588
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: and everybody was so knowledgeable about their one little section

589
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: that it was sometimes hard to get a picture as

590
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: big as I needed to get and John Berry. Oh man,

591
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: Now he he was the man. There's probably not been

592
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: a guest on Bear Grease that would be as I mean,

593
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: he's a he's a big time writer that has nothing

594
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: to do with hunting per se. And so Misty went

595
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: with me to we went to Washington, d C. To

596
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: interview John Barry for an hour and that book. Steve

597
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: Ranella is the one who told me when I said, Hey,

598
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to interview John Barry author Rising Tide, Renella

599
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: was like, hey, when you look at like top ten

600
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: lists of American nonfiction, he said, Rising Tides always there.

601
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: He's like, that's like a incredible book of So having

602
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: John Barry on was really interesting. He's a really interesting guy. Yeah,

603
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: So I said that to say I kept that excluding

604
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: John Barry, who had this kind of very general, like

605
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: big knowledge, Like I just kept going to different people,

606
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: different people, different people. I think I interviewed seven different people,

607
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: like full interviews, like hour and a half plus interviews,

608
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: and then and building building the series. So it's been

609
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: a lot of fun and it's it's it's pretty tough,

610
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: but I want to you know what my labor. I

611
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: want to see if it was in vain or not.

612
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: I want to know if you guys are even paying attention,

613
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: because I'm not sure if you were or not. This

614
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: will be the the third quiz that we've done.

615
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 6: Josh, hold on, No, you hold on, Jack, You're the

616
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 6: cheat who can't count.

617
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: The on the podcast.

618
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: On the last render, you were like, Okay, we're gonna

619
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: do a quiz on never did it?

620
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 4: Well, we actually did a quiz for Clay on Coleria

621
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: that what was.

622
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna do a quiz. We were going to

623
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: do a quiz and but the conversation was just so rich.

624
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: Quiz would have gotten the way.

625
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 5: So there's two quizzes quire Crocket quiz.

626
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: So the way this works is the first person that

627
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: blurts out the right answer gets gets the point. All right,

628
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: I think there's seven. Do you want to do it?

629
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: You want to yes? I think hand is what.

630
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: If everybody had a buzzer?

631
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 4: I think we need a family feed style. Yeah, yeah,

632
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 4: I can get shakers shakers, but then everybody would shake NonStop.

633
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I think this is what we're going to have

634
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: to do.

635
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: We can make our own beeping. Josh, what's your son?

636
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 5: Okay?

637
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: We heard.

638
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight questions. The

639
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: one at the end of this with the most points wins. Okay,

640
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: I feel very first one, there's going to be some

641
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: low hanging fruit. What is the foul wag of a river?

642
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 5: The deepest point of the channel?

643
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: Terrell Spencer deepest point of the channel, blurted out.

644
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 7: When I take people fishing on my river, I tell

645
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 7: him about foul wag. Yeah. Yeah, this is when we

646
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 7: knew this before. I wanted to be friends with Spence

647
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 7: getting Spencer's dead.

648
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 4: He has a He definitely has a competitive advantage today.

649
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: Yes, but because Malachi Nichols wouldn't be a boat partner

650
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: with me, Me and Brent are getting the boat. You

651
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: trade it up, buddy, and we were going to name

652
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: it the thou Wag.

653
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: That was never that was never an option.

654
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: Well, but then I was like, you don't want to

655
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: name your boat the bottom of the So I'm gonna

656
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: go ahead and say this. This is going to be

657
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: big news in the future. Most likely the name of

658
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: our boat is going to be the Lauren Toidde.

659
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 5: Come on, you took a lot of shots at Lauren Tide.

660
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: The I mean, how cool are you name?

661
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: Is that?

662
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: The Lauren Todde the Laurentide ice sheet. Two mile thick

663
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: ice sheets get carved.

664
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 5: You were taking a lot of shots and now you're

665
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 5: praising it.

666
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: And well, no, no, no, I didn't about the Laurentide

667
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: ice sheet. I just said it seems kind of arrogant

668
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: to me that we would name it like it was

669
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: a pet.

670
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 5: I feel like you didn't really appreciate all the top

671
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 5: soil we have.

672
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: No, I have a big time.

673
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 5: You would appreciate alluvials up.

674
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: The holler from me, and he stole all his soil.

675
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: And if you guys have the same degree environmental.

676
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: Science, environmental soil water science, yeah, pretty close school for

677
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: stream ecology.

678
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: We are to do. I forgot jar and shake him

679
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: up and see if they'll fight. Right.

680
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: If it came across as negative about the Laurentide ice sheet,

681
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't. I I just was making note of no

682
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: human like it actually has no correlation to like thinking.

683
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 5: It is crazy. It was just it was just like,

684
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 5: it's amazing.

685
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: No human that we've had correspondence with actually saw it,

686
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: but we know it was here because of the cryptic

687
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: Diary of the Earth. Here's interesting stuff one for till

688
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: this might this might stick. What is the name for

689
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: a concrete map placed on the river bank to stop erosion?

690
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: Brett Reeves?

691
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 5: What was.

692
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: Brett Reeves? One? Thou wag one Ryan misty zero.

693
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 5: It comes a fly fish and he'll get it.

694
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: I had COVID, so.

695
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: It made your brain a little Listen to this, Hey,

696
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: Josh has a real boat.

697
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 5: He has a.

698
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: Name your boats land Bridge?

699
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: Oh are you kidding?

700
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

701
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: Excellent? Got what's the name of your boat? Ryan? Ryan?

702
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: So dead serious, He's like, name your boat, miss.

703
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: Well.

704
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 7: I fit on the road. Oh hey, I got a

705
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 7: honey of a canoe that you didn't mention. It's a

706
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 7: locally made canoe. Oh yeah, it turns on a dome.

707
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 7: Two brothers canoes on the side.

708
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: Of locally rogers.

709
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

710
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: Really, two brothers sweet canoes. Okay, okay. Question number three

711
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: for the last how many miles does the river's bed

712
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: lie below sea level?

713
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 5: And twenty it's fifteen question.

714
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: That question probably could have been worded with a little

715
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: more clarity. How many miles up the river is the

716
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: river below sea level? This? This, This was stated twice

717
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: on the podcast.

718
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 4: How many miles up the river?

719
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 3: I mean.

720
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 5: We can.

721
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: Yes, New Orleans well, the answer lies in how far

722
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: Vicksburg is from the coast.

723
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 5: Was it four hundred and something? Come on, come on,

724
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 5: four twenty four fifteen.

725
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So for the last four hundred and fifty miles

726
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: of the Mississippi River, the bottom of the river's.

727
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 7: Sea level like not a little in like two and

728
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 7: forty foot? Is that what they said?

729
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: Well, no, there was a two hundred and forty feet,

730
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: but that it's it's fifteen feet below sea below Vicksburg

731
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: and like one seventy at the mouth of the river.

732
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: Did you guys understand why I needed clarity? I felt

733
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: like John Barry kind of dismissed me when he was like, yeah,

734
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: it's always been like yeah, but I was I thought

735
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: perhaps it was because you know, doctor Beidenharden he told

736
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: me he's like when man puts his foot in the river,

737
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: a river system is so dynamic. Any any water flowing

738
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: water system is incredibly dynamic. And if you put your

739
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: foot in the river in Saint Louis, anywhere, it affects

740
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, this is this is hype, right, hyper hyperbolic exaggeration.

741
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: To make a point. Put your foot in the river

742
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: in Saint Louis, It affects New Orleans, and so I

743
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 1: thought maybe the river being that far below sea level

744
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: was something that we had done. Because what we probably

745
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: won't get into because it's just too boring, but it's

746
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: also too exciting not to talk about is all the

747
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: ways that they I mean, you could write books on

748
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: the Mississippi River Commission and levees, jetties, and outlets. So

749
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: there was this huge controversy in the country for fifty

750
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: years about how to tame the Mississippi River. And there

751
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: was a levees only crew. There were these guys that

752
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: were like, levees only, that's the way to do it,

753
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: and then there were other people that wanted levees and outlets.

754
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: And basically the levees only thing failed because of the

755
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty seven flood, and it was the biggest natural

756
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: disaster in American history.

757
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 5: Cash wrote a song about it. Did he really How

758
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 5: high is the water, Papa?

759
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: And that's about the nineteen twenty seven flood. Oh dude,

760
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: that's big. I didn't know.

761
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 7: That big river and that song are my two favorite

762
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 7: Johnny Cash, my grandpa, and I'm not even a potomologist.

763
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 6: My grandfather went to Southeast Arkansas when he was He

764
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 6: was born in nineteen thirteen. That happened in twenty seven,

765
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 6: so he was fourteen and he went down there to

766
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 6: help recover folks and really flood victims.

767
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 5: How far did it get? How far west? Today?

768
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 6: They went to Lake Village, which is right there, right

769
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 6: on the river. Yeah, he said it was. It was horrible.

770
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 2: Wow.

771
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: Well, we are going to talk more about the nineteen

772
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: twenty seven flood in different ways they did things, but

773
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: but the.

774
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 4: Uh on a different podcast.

775
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like actually on some of the later ones. So

776
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: we'll save that. So four hundred and fifty miles up,

777
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: it's below that money, Yeah, yeah, Okay. What is the

778
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: term for a river whose banks are mobile and shift,

779
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: meandering and weaving through its floodplain? Alluvial bam flag to

780
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: an alluvial river? Yeah, an alluvial river its banks are

781
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: mobile and shift and meanders and weaves through its floodplain.

782
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 4: Josh, did you even listen to this?

783
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: I did, Josh, Yeah, Josh. Josh's daughter got married.

784
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: My daughter got this weekend.

785
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: We had a fantastic time, but man, marrying off a

786
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: kid isn't a lot of work.

787
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: We were tired and we didn't even do anything.

788
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 4: We just celebrated.

789
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, for Josh's oldest daughter getting married, we're

790
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: giving him one bonus point. Okay, question number four. The

791
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: current score is two for thal wag Spencer, one for

792
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: Ryan Flint for a screb, and one for Brent this

793
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: country Life reeves.

794
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 5: And zero for Josh, zero for Missy.

795
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: Okay, the Mississippi and the Amazon rivers are the only

796
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 1: two major rivers to not have this damn damn Well

797
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: needs a little more clarity where where at the mouth?

798
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: Josh Lambrigg's filmmaker points. So what what doctor kilgorever two

799
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: L said was that the Mississippi and the Amazon were

800
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: the only of the big rivers of the world that

801
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: don't have a damn at their mouth, which is a

802
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: pretty big deal. And you know what, I didn't want

803
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: to say this on the podcast because it kind of

804
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: kind of ruins the buzz about the Mississippi River. But

805
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: those guys talked to about the Amazon, the Amazon is

806
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: the beast of planet Earth. Yes, Like the Mississippi River

807
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: is like pretty small in comparison to the Amazon. Like

808
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: it's not like the flow on a big flood day

809
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: Mississippi River. I want to say is around four point

810
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: five cubic four point five million cubic feet per day

811
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: that comes out of the mouth of the Mississippi River,

812
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: which means imagine a one foot by one foot by

813
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: one foot cube of water. Do you understand that? Was nutten?

814
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 4: Yes, sometimes sometimes careful just stop talking.

815
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: Imagine that. Imagine that and imagine four hundred and fifty

816
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: million of those little boxes.

817
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 2: Are too fast.

818
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: Steve Ranella have a great example about He said, it

819
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: would be like seeing four hundred four zero point five

820
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: million soccer balls go past you. The soccer ball is

821
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: about one cubic foot.

822
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: I thought that was good.

823
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 5: That would supply to Texas for.

824
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: A couple of days, like two days.

825
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: Wow.

826
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: But the Amazon has twenty million cubic feet for times

827
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: at high water. Wow. And but what's interesting about the

828
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: Amazon is that all the other big rivers of the world,

829
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: like the Nile, Mississippi, the Congo, the Yangees, the Ganges whatever,

830
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: what's it called yan yank See.

831
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 5: We're representing our major here, yeah.

832
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: Bumpers environmental science. Most of those rivers run north and

833
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: south for the most part. The Amazon runs east and west,

834
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,959
Speaker 1: or it runs from the west to the east. But

835
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: but and it runs across the widest part of the

836
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: South American continent, and so it is just has this

837
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: huge drainage basin and it's very little is developed around

838
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: the Amazon. So there's very few maybe no, I don't

839
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: want to say how many dams, but it's relatively an

840
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: undamned river. Christ Spielmaker's Amazon, Has you really I would

841
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: like to go to the Amazon? That'ses who here would

842
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: like to go the.

843
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

844
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. My friend Keith Sutton down in central Arkansas, who

845
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: is a in Arkansas. He's kind of a legendary hunting

846
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: fishing rider. He for a time was going down to

847
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: the Amazon quite a bit and he caught an undiscovered

848
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: stingray freshwater stingray that no one had ever documented. He

849
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: was down there fishing one year and caught this stingray

850
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: and he pulled it up or he's saw it. Maybe

851
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: he pulled it up to the boat and it got off,

852
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: but he had a real good look at it. And

853
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,479
Speaker 1: he goes back to America and starts researching and there's

854
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: nothing and he's like, I know what I saw. The

855
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: next year he goes back. It's a version of the

856
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: story that's similar to this Okay, this may not be worth.

857
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 4: So you may be misrepresenting him.

858
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: I mean a little bit, but it's possible. I just

859
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: want to say that because I've recorded him tell the

860
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: story before, so you could go back and actually hear

861
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: it from him on the Bare Hunting Magazine podcast with

862
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: Keith Sutton. But the next year, he goes back down

863
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: there to the exact spot he lost that fish, and

864
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: within like ten minutes catches another one. I'm serious, he did.

865
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: He went and caught it and it was a two

866
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: hundred pound fresh water stingray that had never been documented

867
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: by science.

868
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 2: Him.

869
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: I don't think they named it after him, but he

870
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: was able to get in touch with a fish guy

871
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: that they believe eve that somebody in the eighteen hundreds

872
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: had documented it one time, but that's all they had seen,

873
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: so it was never But it's just like that kind

874
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: of stuff can still happen on the Amazon River.

875
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 4: It's been crazy.

876
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was I thought it was crazy.

877
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: So Josh, your score is two.

878
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: We don't have too.

879
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 3: One in like, at least at least my extra points

880
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 3: were awarded by someone else and not myself.

881
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 7: Like, yeah, Brents, I feel like this is the kind

882
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 7: of thing I talked to my kids about.

883
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: Okay, question number uh number five, how long did it

884
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: take the Europeans revisit the Mississippi River after De Soto

885
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 1: discovered twenty one hundred and twenty years?

886
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: Yes? Nice?

887
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: Did y'all like hearing what Mark Twain thought about that? Yeah?

888
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:47,959
Speaker 4: That was really good.

889
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting and I was reading fat

890
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: it's wild to think that De Soto saw it and

891
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: it was one hundred and twenty years.

892
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 7: But isn't that like that's the thing with rivers. We

893
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 7: take them for granted. Yeah, you know, you just see

894
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 7: herriver and you think it's just a river. You see

895
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 7: a mountain, and everybody wants to name it and climate.

896
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's true. Well, but when Mark Twain put

897
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: it in the contexts as he said that entire time,

898
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: there were there were people on the East coast, you know,

899
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: there were there were Europeans that were about around and

900
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: about on the East coast, and then they still didn't

901
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: even know where that river went.

902
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,479
Speaker 6: Okay, there was some good stuff in that book. Yeah,

903
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 6: Life on the Mississippi, And I sent you I was

904
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 6: actually reading that and you're used to that section that

905
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 6: when we.

906
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 2: Started and then is it a spoiler if I read

907
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: that thing that I sent you to the day that

908
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: I liked, that was in.

909
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: The part that I well, you know what I skipped over.

910
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: I skipped over.

911
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, read it read, Yeah, my favorite part of that whole.

912
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 6: And it was actually in that same paragraph Mark Twain said,

913
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 6: if somebody should discover it creek in the county next

914
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 6: to the one that the North Pole is in Europe

915
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 6: and America would start fifteen costly expeditions, thither one to

916
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 6: explore the creek and the other fourteen to hunt for

917
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 6: each other. That made me laugh out loud because that's

918
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 6: so true.

919
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: And then eighteen eighty three, that's what was going on.

920
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: That book was written in eighteen eighty three. Yeah, so

921
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: like there was some genuine exploration going on in this continent,

922
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: unlike is going on today. You know, they were exploring

923
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: land like today we're exploring technology.

924
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 5: Yeah.

925
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you think about like Elon Musk and these people

926
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: doing wild stuff going to the moon, making electric cars,

927
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: making chat GPT, and we're kind of like, wow, the

928
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: frontier you know this back then it was what's that direction?

929
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: We don't really know the actual frontier.

930
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: That's not the best analogy, but you guys get it, okay.

931
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: According to doctor Biden Haarn, the deepest point of the

932
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: river is how to forty feet? Bam that wagon?

933
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 4: I definitely I did because I like to hear the

934
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: whole question.

935
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: That's not Spenser's fault, No, it's his fault.

936
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: Last question, this question.

937
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 5: Don't think at half point.

938
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 4: Don't know? It's all yours. It's all yours. You said

939
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 4: it for rules, you know.

940
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 5: Like before this question?

941
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: Okay, what year was the Mississippi River Commission formed? This

942
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: is kind of a boring question.

943
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 2: Is it is?

944
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 5: And I still don't know the eighteen nineteen forty eight and.

945
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna say, nineteen forty eight too,

946
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 4: But I think I think there is.

947
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 5: I don't feel bad if I take it wrong.

948
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: Answer it was one hundred years before the year of

949
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: my birthm mis get I get right?

950
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 2: Who won?

951
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: Who won that wagon?

952
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: I think I had five estion of how many miles

953
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 2: un free flowing water.

954
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: That's a great one, which I'm fully expecting Isaac Neil

955
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: to walk in here with that tattoo.

956
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you think about the tattoo suggestion twenty four hundred

957
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: or a hawk eagle yeah, I had a lot of people.

958
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of hype around that the Mississippi

959
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 1: River should have been called the Missouri River because the

960
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: Missouri River is longer than the Mississippi, and people say

961
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: things such as the Mississippi's river is not great until

962
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: the Missouri comes in.

963
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 5: I got a question, okay, I think it said that

964
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 5: there was not a dam on the Missouri River for

965
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 5: twelve miles.

966
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: It said, why.

967
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 5: Is I don't know anything about the Missouri River, so

968
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 5: it's compared to the Arkansas, and you don't come very

969
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 5: far out of the Mississippi until you get to what's

970
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 5: the first one?

971
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: Is it Murray?

972
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 3: No?

973
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 2: Down it? Uh uh domas Domus. Yeah.

974
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: I don't understand what would make the decisions around not that?

975
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 5: Is there not commerce or commercial on that like there

976
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 5: is Arkansas River.

977
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't know.

978
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 5: I don't know.

979
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: I really don't know. That's a good question.

980
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 5: Are the Arkansas damns navigation wise or are they power?

981
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: It's mostly navigation, Yeah, mostly navigation.

982
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 5: I think they go as far as Tulsa. Maybe on

983
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 5: the Arkansas River.

984
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, some rivers it could be there's some. I don't know.

985
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 1: I don't even know enough to I'll figure out the answer,

986
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: because that's a good question. You don't get no point,

987
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: I get zero. You know, I'm gonna have to say

988
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: this again. I'm gonna address this again in an actual

989
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: bear grease podcas cast in a probably a tighter way.

990
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 1: But I think naming rivers is really interesting because rivers

991
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: are named typically from their mouth, the bottom, the bottom,

992
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: and the way this country was settled by the Europeans

993
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: that came here. It was settled from east to west.

994
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: So the people came to this land that the Native Americans,

995
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: the Quapole is called Arkansas, and they found this giant river,

996
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: and so they said the Arkansas River. And then when

997
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: they went up to where the Arkansas River started, it

998
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: was in Colorado.

999
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1000
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: So I mean, in theory, it seems like there's more namesake.

1001
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: This is the Colorado River started in Colorado, but just

1002
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 1: simply based upon where the people, the direction the people

1003
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: were coming from when they named it. And that's exactly

1004
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: why the Missouri River is called the Missouri River and

1005
00:54:54,440 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: the not the where's the headwaters of the Missouri in Montana.

1006
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 5: Or I'm not even sure I think it was Montana.

1007
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's Montana, you know, and and so

1008
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: the Mississippi. It was kind of the same way that

1009
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: most of the interaction with that river was down in

1010
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: the lower part of the river with LaSalle and these

1011
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: got you know, LaSalle and the Tante were the first

1012
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: guys to It was a transliteration, meaning that it was

1013
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: a it was a word in a different language that

1014
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: we just kind of were like Mississippi sounds like they're

1015
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: saying it was tough. I struggled with that. It was, yeah,

1016
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: it was. I didn't really do it justice. There were

1017
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: multiple There's so many ways that but it was michiku.

1018
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 4: I've got a question, how confident are you that that I'm.

1019
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: The pronunciation of that high very high? You like that

1020
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: very high? Okay?

1021
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 4: And how how confident were you of cholera low?

1022
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: What I like to think about these things? What is it?

1023
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: What did it make you think when it was suggested

1024
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: on Bear Grease that maybe one day the Mississippi River

1025
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: won't be called the Mississippi.

1026
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 7: And just how our society will be forgotten like the

1027
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 7: Catahokians or all the others. Yeah, that was that was

1028
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 7: I was cleaning out a chicken brewer at the time,

1029
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 7: and that was a thinker.

1030
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I can tell you where I

1031
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 4: was at. I was I was checking.

1032
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: Wow, where were you.

1033
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: When we talked about renamingnant.

1034
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's the point. Think about the great

1035
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: civilizations there. There were incredible civilizations. You know, this whole

1036
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: idea we came in into a wilderness is just untrue.

1037
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: These people walked into great civilizations that looked different than

1038
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: European cities. We translated his wilderness and these people had

1039
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they they knew what that river was called.

1040
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: And then here we are a couple hundred year i mean,

1041
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: five hundred years later, we're guessing at what they called it.

1042
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: And we're not even calling it what they called it.

1043
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: We're calling it what it sounds like they called it.

1044
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: You know, they called it the Mitcha super Kani or whatever,

1045
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: Mitchev Sipi or whatever.

1046
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 5: The ones that survived, Right, And there's yeah.

1047
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: And then and then this Peter Pitchlin the chalk taw

1048
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: he in this letter, this official it was a letter that.

1049
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: Was the one that said that we always pronounced everything wrong.

1050
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so he was like, heck, they didn't even

1051
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: get the transliteration right. It was this meaning the river

1052
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 1: without any age, and yeah, you can just imagine how

1053
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: louly translated some of that stuff was, and so yeah,

1054
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: I saw it was an interesting thought.

1055
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 5: All the will remain will be our plastic water bottles

1056
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 5: and dirophones.

1057
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1058
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. What what stood out to you most misty about

1059
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: that podcast? Well, what you learned.

1060
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 4: My favorite part was actually the very beginning, hearing John

1061
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 4: Barry read the poem. I thought that was pretty pretty.

1062
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,479
Speaker 1: Amazing, pretty strong brown god.

1063
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 4: And my second favorite part was hearing Hank Berdine his

1064
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 4: voice described as the voice what a crocodile? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1065
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 4: that was pretty good, pretty good description.

1066
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, after the voiceover for Foghorn Leghorn.

1067
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 5: That's two.

1068
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 7: That's two podcasts I think in a row with with

1069
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 7: good descriptions, because the other was Davy Crocket where we

1070
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 7: talked about being like a wildcat and was half out wildcat.

1071
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: Description and cans AND's has been the half.

1072
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: My half alligator, half horse.

1073
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 5: That's right, my middle son, We're like, that's you, buddy.

1074
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I thought John Barry's intro was cool. That

1075
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: was his favorite poem, and I asked him if he

1076
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: would read it for me, and he read it Bret,

1077
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: what's that to you? What was your favorite part?

1078
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: I like talking to uh and I still can't remember.

1079
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, doctor was with me when I went down there.

1080
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 6: We went it was cool, man, That whole complex is Wow,

1081
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 6: it's pretty pretty cool to get in there.

1082
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 2: And talk to those folks. But to hear he talked

1083
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: about a lot.

1084
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 6: Of stuff that I'm sure that that they won't be

1085
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 6: out there because it's just it meant it was so technical.

1086
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was really the.

1087
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 6: Best thing that I wish that people that are listening

1088
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 6: to this could have been there watching him talk about it,

1089
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 6: because seeing some visiting with somebody and watching them talk

1090
00:59:55,560 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 6: about something that they're very passionate about. And he's been

1091
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 6: his whole life studying that thing, and to me, he

1092
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 6: looks like he's just, it's excited.

1093
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 2: To talk about it today. How long has he been

1094
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 2: down there? Years?

1095
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, thirty or forty years he's been doing it?

1096
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 6: Would he seems to be just as excited about it

1097
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 6: now as he was in But the him talking about

1098
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 6: that revetment, one of the questions I got right in

1099
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 6: the challenge that Josh didn't get how cool that was

1100
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 6: that it scoured out sixty feet below that thing, and

1101
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 6: then before they could get in there and do something

1102
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 6: about it, he feel back in forty feet.

1103
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was.

1104
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 6: But that's I mean, and that's going on everywhere all

1105
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 6: the time, and that thing, it's the river is changing.

1106
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 6: How he talked about it, he talked about it like

1107
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 6: it was an animal, you know, like it will have

1108
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 6: life to it, And I guess it does in that

1109
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 6: way because it's always changing and growing and going. Well,

1110
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 6: it was really cool just to sit there listened to

1111
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 6: that guy who who really knows it.

1112
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: Brian, what stood out to you.

1113
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 5: Was it, Burdine? You were in the boat with The

1114
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 5: very first thing you hear before anything is spoken is

1115
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 5: the tilt trim. I'm thinking, here's a guy that is

1116
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 5: hands on, he's immersed in the river. He he's on

1117
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 5: it while he's talking about it. So I'm thinking this

1118
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 5: is a big deal to this guy. He was probably

1119
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 5: born and raised and is on it day in, day out.

1120
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 5: So I was really entertained by his conversation.

1121
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1122
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a cool guy. He's a cool guy. Hey,

1123
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: you gotta tell me, but we're going to end with

1124
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: you telling this is your best near death story on

1125
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: a big river. Ryan be thinking about it, Spence whatsod

1126
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: what stood out to you? Excuse me?

1127
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 5: I lit up like a Christmas tree when I heard

1128
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 5: that word.

1129
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 7: He's the farmer that in potomologists. So but now I

1130
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 7: I when he when he was talking about just the

1131
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 7: a river's ability to do work, and he talked about slope,

1132
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 7: and he talked about volume, and you know, I couldn't

1133
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 7: help but thinking of you know, we've got a creak

1134
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 7: in our haller, We've got our farm land where the

1135
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 7: river runs through it, and I just think of floods.

1136
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 7: You know, I've been at this proper on our properties

1137
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 7: for shoot a long time now, and you know I've

1138
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 7: seen some big floods.

1139
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1140
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 7: I just that's where my mind goes. And then extrapolating

1141
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 7: that to the Mississippi when he talked, you know, like

1142
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 7: when you look at old maps and you see how

1143
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 7: much it's changed, and I don't know what you're going

1144
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 7: to talk about in the future.

1145
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 5: Like a lot of this was me.

1146
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 7: I really am interested in this, So I just I

1147
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 7: was like, oh, I hope Clay has a talks about that.

1148
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 7: I hope, I hope this is a ten part series. Yeah, yeah,

1149
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 7: you know I'm all in urd, but I enjoyed that

1150
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 7: so like just all the scratches. I mean, it was

1151
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 7: almost like you're going on a Deli tray with the

1152
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 7: sampler platter, all the little thing and maybe you'll get

1153
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 7: into him, maybe you're not, but I don't know. It

1154
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 7: was just tangent after changes in my mind. And then uh,

1155
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 7: I really liked when he called it the Fourth Coast, like.

1156
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I've never heard that punk rock.

1157
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 7: They used to call like the West Coast, Left Coast,

1158
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 7: so like, I don't know, it's just like it made

1159
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 7: me chuckle him calling it the fourth Coast be a

1160
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 7: good T shirt.

1161
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: Coast, the fourth Coast, Oh hank, oh hank. Yeah that's good, Josh.

1162
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 3: I just I'm always fascinated and my family makes fun

1163
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 3: of me because they're like, oh, dad's doing math again.

1164
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 3: But I love I love the statistics, just like the

1165
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 3: twenty four hundred miles without a damn, all the soil

1166
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 3: that gets moved, all the volume of water. It boggles

1167
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 3: my mind that I mean, honestly, it makes me more

1168
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 3: amazed at our creator.

1169
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 2: And when I think about this stuff, like.

1170
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 3: To design this, and and it makes me you know,

1171
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 3: I was out on the river this morning and I

1172
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 3: took a couple of guys that were that were in

1173
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 3: town for my daughter's wedding, and I took them up

1174
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 3: to the dam, and and the dams we have here

1175
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 3: in Arkansas are pretty impressive structures. I mean, they're amazing structures.

1176
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 3: And then to think about the the Mississippi River and

1177
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 3: how we've learned to utilize that, it just it puts

1178
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 3: me in a state of awe a little bit that

1179
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 3: we've been able to harness a lot of the power

1180
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 3: of that and use it for our lives. And I

1181
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 3: think I loved how you talked about finding out how

1182
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 3: the Mississippi affects our lives, Like we don't really know

1183
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 3: and so to just to just break it down and

1184
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 3: make it evident for us is really interesting to me.

1185
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 5: There was a quote where it talked about trying to

1186
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 5: master it like hubris. What was that? Do you remember

1187
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 5: that quote?

1188
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 2: Well?

1189
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: John Barry a lot in his book Rising Tide talked

1190
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 1: about the hubris that it took for man to even

1191
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: think he could tame the river.

1192
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, and we've had some We've got a bridge in

1193
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 7: our county that has washed out repeatedly and they just

1194
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 7: keep adding more and more concrete to it. And there's

1195
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 7: a part of me that rejoices every time that end

1196
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 7: up on my property because I never learned. But it's

1197
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 7: just that hubris, you know, and the amount of force

1198
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 7: and power, and it looks so simple, but they're so

1199
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 7: deep and there there's so much under the surface in

1200
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 7: the river. And it really like, I'd be curious to

1201
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 7: hear your stories, because if you've ever been out on

1202
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,479
Speaker 7: a body of water and realize you shouldn't be out there,

1203
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 7: it becomes really quick, really fast, or really apparent really

1204
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 7: fast how powerful those rivers and water bodies are.

1205
01:05:54,920 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think, to me, the the what

1206
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to communicate and what I'm maybe most interested

1207
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: in is I want people to understand the complexity of

1208
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: a river system. When I was in college, I took

1209
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: a stream ecology class, and I was blown away by

1210
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: the complexity of even just a gravel based stream like

1211
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: here in the Ozarks, Like if you remove this gravel,

1212
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: what it does downstream, and even more so on a big,

1213
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: giant river that drains forty one percent of a continent.

1214
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: And I thought John Barry's John Barry is an excellent writer,

1215
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: and when he I took the quote about the physicist

1216
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: that was from his book, like he talked about the

1217
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: physicist that said, when I get to heaven, I've got

1218
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: two questions for God. Why relativity and why turbulence? And

1219
01:06:54,920 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: I think he can answer the first insinuating that nobody knows.

1220
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: Nobody knows, and and just the turbulence being this mysterious force,

1221
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: unpredictable force that that comes about with free flowing stuff

1222
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: like water or air, and it's just so difficult to calculate.

1223
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: And the sediment loads the river and how big it

1224
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: is and how it moves and it really is like

1225
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: a beast. And like I said in the on the podcast,

1226
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: if the if the if you if the river were

1227
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: a great beast and the banks where its skeleton, and

1228
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: the floodplain where it's flesh, the water would be its

1229
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: blood and the dirt would be the life in the blood.

1230
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: And how that that dirt is basically has built the

1231
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: entire delta of from like Memphis down like the Gulf

1232
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 1: of Mexico used to come all the way up into

1233
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: the Ozarks.

1234
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1235
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 6: How about him talking about, uh, the topsail the depth

1236
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 6: of top soil in most places that's compared to the

1237
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 6: alluvial plain down Yeah.

1238
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1239
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 7: Are you Are you going to cover the fact that

1240
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 7: we're like shotgunning all that out in the gulf, like.

1241
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,440
Speaker 1: I will, that's a whole Yeah, there's some major ecological

1242
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: problems down at the mouth of the Mississippi River. Uh,

1243
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: And it's yeah, I will, but not in detail, honestly. Yeah,

1244
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: just because I'm there's talk about that's. Yeah, it's so complex.

1245
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 5: Private podcast for me.

1246
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ryan, have you almost died on a big river?

1247
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 5: I don't want to say died, but probably done some

1248
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 5: stupid stuff when I was younger, duck hunting when the

1249
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 5: river is flooded, too smaller boats, too much current, trying

1250
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 5: to drive across flooded rock jetties to get to the

1251
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 5: other side the duck hunt and thinking, you know, as

1252
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 5: the trucks pushed sideways, you're thinking later, this is a

1253
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 5: bad It would have kept sliding. I'd been fifteen twenty foot.

1254
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 2: Under the white the truck water running across.

1255
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 5: Running across the levee, and you're trying to go from

1256
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 5: drive across that drive across the levee to another point.

1257
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 5: And it was stupid.

1258
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, do you have it. Do you have

1259
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 1: a specific story or now you don't, Okay, No.

1260
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 5: I try to be prettyself.

1261
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 6: I told her about that story on one of my

1262
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 6: podcasts about my brother and I getting hung up on

1263
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 6: the Arkansas River. In the Arkansas River in a bad storm.

1264
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 6: You know, we made it out to a sandbar in

1265
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 6: the middle of the river and pulled to just run,

1266
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 6: running the boat up on the bank. This this cloud

1267
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 6: had a big storm had come through and gone and

1268
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 6: we were still before daylight. We look up and we

1269
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 6: see stars. We think it's fine, we're good to go.

1270
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 6: We get in the boat, we go up the river.

1271
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 6: Then another storm coming behind it, so it's water against

1272
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 6: waves are coming over the front of the boat. So

1273
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 6: when the wind blows up a river, when it blows

1274
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 6: against the current, this makes the waves bad and the.

1275
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: Currents going down, but the pushing it so it's going

1276
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: against each other.

1277
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, this was like three foot swells were coming over

1278
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 6: the front of that john boat. We was a sixteen

1279
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 6: foot john boat that was fifty two inches wide and

1280
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 6: it was like a cork floating out there. So we

1281
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 6: hit the We hit a sand bars as fast as

1282
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 6: we could go and got off of it and lightning

1283
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 6: is popping all around, the winds blowing like crazy, and

1284
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 6: finally it got it stopped.

1285
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 2: The lightning stuff stopped.

1286
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 6: And it got daylight where we could see, and we

1287
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 6: killed like one or two ducks, and uh then we

1288
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 6: got back.

1289
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: In the boat and scared you to death and got home. Yeah,

1290
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: it was it was tough.

1291
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 5: It was, y'all. Ever seen like a canoe that's been

1292
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 5: pinned when you're faddling, or or wrapped around a tree, Yeah,

1293
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 5: and you trying to pull it out and you realize

1294
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 5: how much forces are there.

1295
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 2: There's a well, Josh and I saw a boat, an

1296
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 2: all John boat wrapped around a tree.

1297
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,759
Speaker 6: But I've seen big, big boats like that on the Arkansas,

1298
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 6: big commercial, like commercial sized fishing boats that are just

1299
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 6: wrapped around like nothing.

1300
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 5: I know, Misty probably don't want to hear this, but

1301
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 5: if you remember what two three years ago, there was

1302
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 5: five of us in my eighteen foot duck boat.

1303
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: Was one of my children, many of.

1304
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 5: And a live well has a big live weel in

1305
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 5: it that was full of water, full of fish for

1306
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 5: them to bring home. We kept watching the cell come

1307
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 5: from the what was it north northeast?

1308
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 2: Well?

1309
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: What threw us off was that it was coming from

1310
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: the east, and we thought thinking that it was already

1311
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: passed us. Gotcha, because of the weather usually in this

1312
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: part of the world comes from west to east. So

1313
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: we were looking back to the west and the clouds

1314
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: were there was no storm, but to the east there

1315
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: was a storm. And I thought it was a storm

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Speaker 1: that was kind of moving from the north to the

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Speaker 1: southeast and we're just seeing the tail of it. But

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Speaker 1: actually it was an east It was blowing from the

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Speaker 1: east and coming on as hard.

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Speaker 5: And that's the way the river's flowing down to the east.

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Speaker 5: The wind's coming out of the east. So yeah, it

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Speaker 5: was actually didn't start with any rollers. It started with

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Speaker 5: three foot breakers with a loaded boat. And we should

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Speaker 5: have stayed put. We should have stayed Yeah, we should have. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: But once you get halfway back.

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Speaker 1: We had probably three miles or so to get back home.

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Speaker 5: And actually took a deep tur in to a bay

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Speaker 5: to get out of the wind that I know probably

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01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 5: wasn't three foot deep, and I'm thinking, I hope I

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Speaker 5: don't hit a stuff.

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Speaker 1: I remember. So while that is going on, guess what

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01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: flint face looked like? Just messy. Always we're just like

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Speaker 1: you're just getting soaked wet, and I'm kind of looking

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Speaker 1: back at Ryan to see if he looks nervous, and

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Speaker 1: we don't really even talk. I mean, do we just

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Speaker 1: go back to the boat ram And once we get out,

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Speaker 1: I go, hey, Ryan, was that pretty sketchy? And he

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Speaker 1: was like, that's pretty sketchy. That reminded me of the

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Speaker 1: time when rode with Warner Glenn up a big mountain yard.

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Speaker 1: I've told the story so many times. I rode with

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Speaker 1: Warner Glenn, followed him up a mountain on a mule

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Speaker 1: and it was the absolute wildest mule ride in my life.

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01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: And that night over dinner and he never even looked

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Speaker 1: back to see if I was still there. And when

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Speaker 1: I got to dinner that night, I said, I said,

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Speaker 1: mister Warner, if you could, if you were ranking mule

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01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: rides and a zero was riding down a gravel road

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Speaker 1: and a tin was that you died? What did we

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01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: do this morning? And he went humh, probably about a

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Speaker 1: seven or eight. And I was like, good, thank god.

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Speaker 1: He said, yeah, if it had been must much worse

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Speaker 1: than that, you just couldn't have taken him up there, Clay.

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01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: He didn't. It never even occurred to him that we'd

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Speaker 1: done something wild that day. It was that was like

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01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: it was Tuesday. Yeah, that was like when I was rying.

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Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, it was pretty sketchy. Ah. Hey,

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Speaker 5: Ryan's coming up, Man, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: Legend has it that Robert Redford is jealous of Josh's mustache.

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