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Speaker 2: We begin with the NBA on NBC and Michael Jordan

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Speaker 2: makes his media debut, and it was fun. Oh this

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Speaker 2: is music to Todd's ears. Oh the best. It was

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Speaker 2: always Bob Costas bringing you in to watch the NBA

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Speaker 2: on NBC. Now it's Mike Cherico. Charico sat down with

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, and as Paulie likes to say, Michael Jordan

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Speaker 2: is Jaws. He's he is the Shark. He's the Shark

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Speaker 2: and Jaws. Now, if you remember the movie, it takes

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Speaker 2: a while before they actually show you the Shark, and

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Speaker 2: that's Mike. They waited, they waited, and you know whatever,

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Speaker 2: how many minutes, how many you know, forty five an

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Speaker 2: hour in then you got to see Mike sit down

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Speaker 2: with Mike Cherico and they talked about a variety things.

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Speaker 2: Now wasn't a long conversation. I'm gonna guess maybe they're

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Speaker 2: sitting down hopefully and having an hour at one point

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Speaker 2: and then maybe next month another hour. I hope it's

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Speaker 2: more like details with Kobe Bryant, where we can understand

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Speaker 2: what Mike sees, how he played the game, saw the

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Speaker 2: game and you know, maybe shed some light on what

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Speaker 2: is it that made him so great and what he

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Speaker 2: sees in other players. Here is Michael on why he

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Speaker 2: decided to join INBC.

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Speaker 3: So you let us bring a camera to to your

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Speaker 3: place here to talk to you about basketball.

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Speaker 4: Why do you want to share what you're thinking about basketball?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: It's pay it forward?

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Speaker 3: You know, I have an obligation to the game of basketball,

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Speaker 3: not financially, I'm okay. I mean I think more or

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Speaker 3: less from them from as a basketball player is to

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Speaker 3: be able to pass on messages of success and dedication

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Speaker 3: to the game of basketball.

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Speaker 2: Okay, once again, Kobe was wonderful with this when he

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Speaker 2: did here show details. You know, Mike usually don't doesn't

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Speaker 2: let you in. He doesn't need to do interviews. He

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Speaker 2: says he's going to pay it forward. He's going to

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Speaker 2: get paid paying it forward, I'm sure by NBC. But

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Speaker 2: it's still great to have him around the game. And

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Speaker 2: Mike asked him about his love of today's game.

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Speaker 4: I still love it, love it like you wouldn't believe.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, honestly, I wish I can take

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Speaker 3: a magic pill, put on shorts and go out and

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Speaker 3: play the game of basketball today because that's that's who

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Speaker 3: I am. That's that type of competition, that type of competitiveness,

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Speaker 3: it's what I live.

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Speaker 4: For, and I miss it.

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Speaker 3: I missed that aspect of playing the game of basketball,

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Speaker 3: being able to challenge myself against what people see as

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Speaker 3: great basketball. But it's better for me to be sitting

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Speaker 3: here talking to you as opposed to popping my achilles

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Speaker 3: and I'm in a wheelchair for a while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't replicate that. You can't replicate the competitiveness

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Speaker 2: that you get from a sporting event. All of these

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Speaker 2: great athletes talk about that. That's why they try to

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Speaker 2: find other things that bring them something close to that.

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Speaker 2: You know, Peyton Manning's successful businessman. Tom Brady is an announcer,

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Speaker 2: but he's also an owner. You get golf involved in

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Speaker 2: this for Mike, you get gambling involved in this. With Mike.

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Speaker 2: That gets his creative juices going. But it was good.

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Speaker 2: It was good to have him there associated with the game.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was just a great performance by NBC

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Speaker 2: and bringing that back and it felt bigger, And I

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Speaker 2: think that's what the goal is, to make this bigger.

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Speaker 2: This is network TV, and that's the way it used

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Speaker 2: to be in the nineties that you had Network TV,

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Speaker 2: but you had Marv Albert, and you had Bill Walton

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Speaker 2: and Bob Costas, Steve Snapper Jones, you had that music.

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Speaker 2: In fact, John Tesh, I think, is going to join

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Speaker 2: us this week, Todd, Is that right?

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Speaker 4: You should be Joners probably on Fridays?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right? Is he going to play the NBC

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Speaker 2: theme music?

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Speaker 4: I understand that he will be playing some round ball.

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Speaker 2: Rock for us. Okay, oh boy, you're gonna be geeked

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Speaker 2: for that.

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Speaker 5: We're having John Tesh on to play round ball rock.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we're back. Yes, yes.

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Speaker 5: If we don't win an Emmy this year, I quit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Seaton, sorry, I'm not off of John Tesh yet.

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Speaker 6: People will pay tickets to go to a concert to

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Speaker 6: go see John Tesh perform with like a live orchestra,

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Speaker 6: a whole live band, and he'll be like, and here's

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Speaker 6: wrote the Entertainment Tonight theme.

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Speaker 5: And then he'll do that theme. That's people go and

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Speaker 5: they watched that as a concert.

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Speaker 2: Hey, maybe we can get a two for Maybe we

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Speaker 2: That's a great idea. Do you think I could ask

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Speaker 2: John Tesh Live? You can ask could you do stat

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Speaker 2: do that. Maybe he could do it to Entertainment Tonight

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Speaker 2: come up to sixty percent off basketball. Last night, the

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Speaker 2: Thunder beating the Rockets in double overtime and the Warriors

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Speaker 2: over the Lakers. LUCA went for forty three, but the

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Speaker 2: Lakers in their last nine home openers or openers, I

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Speaker 2: have Lebron there, and you start to look at the roster.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to see how DeAndre Ayton was going to play,

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Speaker 2: because Lucas said, you got to get me a big

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Speaker 2: I'm not quite so sure about DeAndre Ayton. I think

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Speaker 2: I penciled him in as a sixteen to ten guy.

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Speaker 2: I figured that's not asking a lot. Sixteen to ten guy.

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Speaker 2: Number one pick in the draft, and you're gonna need it.

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Speaker 2: Golden State is still dangerous. They're probably one of the

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Speaker 2: three best teams out West. You still have staph. Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Butler went off, Draymond got a technical six minutes in,

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Speaker 2: so right on Q they got some depth there. It's

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Speaker 2: an odd mix. It's still weird to see Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 2: the hoop kind of guy, and he had a big

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Speaker 2: night again last night. But you still have Steph being Steph,

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Speaker 2: and that'll be enough to keep you in the upper

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Speaker 2: echelon out west and the West is stacked and okay,

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Speaker 2: see is great. Okay see. Now, you know, we haven't

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Speaker 2: had a team repeat the last seven years. We've had

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Speaker 2: a different champ all seven years. And if I was betting,

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Speaker 2: I would probably say I'll take the bet that will

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Speaker 2: have a different team winning the NBA championship. It's just

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Speaker 2: hard to repeat. But you do have a young team,

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Speaker 2: have depth, you have Sga chet Holmgren looked really good

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Speaker 2: last night. And you know they're a balanced team, good

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Speaker 2: team defensively, a really good team as well. But we'll

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Speaker 2: see what Minnesota has to say about this, Denver has

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Speaker 2: to say about this. Houston. Houston's got an odd roster,

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Speaker 2: got a lot of tall guys, but they don't have

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Speaker 2: a point guard. Fred van Vliet injured out for the year.

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Speaker 2: You need a point guard on that team because Read

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Speaker 2: you point to and you uh, you say to the opposition,

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Speaker 2: go after Read Shepherd. That happened last night. Marvin's texting me,

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Speaker 2: he goes, uh, they're going after your guy, Read Shepherd.

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Speaker 2: They were. They were singling him. Who is the guy

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Speaker 2: with OKC? Who's going after him?

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Speaker 2: Of course you have case and Wallace going after Red Shepherd.

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Speaker 2: And I went, oh, they're putting him on an island. Yes, Marvin, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm watching the game last night. Caseon Wallace has the

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Speaker 2: when did they clear out for Caseon Wallace?

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Speaker 2: Read Shepherd's guarding him. Uh but okay, See, you know

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Speaker 2: Sga is just he has that inate ability. There's something

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Speaker 2: he does it, but he does it, and he does

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Speaker 2: it on a consistent basis, and he gets you clutch

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Speaker 2: me eighteen in the fourth quarter in overtime. You know

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Speaker 2: I want you to have the ball. And that's why

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Speaker 2: they got Kevin Durant. But they didn't go to Kevin

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. So you have that closer. They didn't have

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Speaker 2: you got him. I want Kevin Durant, although this first

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Speaker 2: time I watched, I looked at him and I go, man,

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Speaker 2: he's older. He's older.

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Speaker 1: The light up top.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, Mike made being bald, you know, famous,

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Speaker 2: but I would just go bald. You know, same thing

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Speaker 2: with Lebron. But that didn't make you older. It just

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Speaker 2: felt like Durant seemed older for the first time. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you got Lebron with sciatica. That's what I would have,

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Speaker 2: not one of the great athletes in the world. What's

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Speaker 2: next Bunyans dnp NP, Bunyans, but great night, fun night basketball.

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Speaker 2: You got a full slate coming up tonight. The odds

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Speaker 2: for the World Series Dodgers Big Favorites show Hey Otani

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Speaker 2: big favorite to be the World Series MVP, followed by

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Speaker 2: Vlad Guerrero, then Freddie Freeman and George Springer. Otani off

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Speaker 2: one game got the National League Championship Series MVP because

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Speaker 2: he didn't do much prior to that, but he did

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Speaker 2: a whole lot in Game four to be the MVP

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Speaker 2: of the NLCS. I don't know who else you would

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Speaker 2: have given it to. I would have given it to

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Speaker 2: Blake Snell. I think he set the tone for the

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Speaker 2: the rest of the pitching staff followed suit. But I

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Speaker 2: think Otani on the name plate had them put team

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Speaker 2: effort instead of show hey Otani, I believe and his

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Speaker 2: way of saying, yeah, it probably shouldn't be the MVP.

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Speaker 2: We all are the MVP. All right, Seeton Pole question

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Speaker 2: for hour one is what we.

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Speaker 5: Got two options for you here? Best part of the

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Speaker 5: NBA being back on NBC is Michael Jordan or the music?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I would expect the music.

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Speaker 5: To win in a landslide. Oh I'm just saying.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah. I want to see what else they do

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Speaker 2: with Mike. I want to see how excess, you know,

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Speaker 2: because Mike Cherico's got to go down to Mike's place

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Speaker 2: and it's basically Mike's home court advantage here. And how

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Speaker 2: often is Mike Cherico going to be able to go

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Speaker 2: there and do a sit down with Michael Jordan? And

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Speaker 2: Let me start there. We're starting to get to that

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Speaker 10: Well, there's a lot of fascinating aspects of it because

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Speaker 10: Dan that the Vikings knew that they thought Daniel Jones

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Speaker 10: He hired Darren Muji, the GM, the new GM and

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Speaker 10: The guys that have won games this year. As starting corporate,

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Speaker 4: All right, throw the ball to Jamar again. Throw the

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Speaker 2: How did Mike McDaniels hold on to his job this week?

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Speaker 10: of thought.

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Speaker 4: So there's the.

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Speaker 10: School of thought that when you want to move on

439
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Speaker 10: from a guy, just move on from him, cut bait.

440
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Speaker 4: And move forward.

441
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Speaker 10: There became a few years there, and I want to

442
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Speaker 10: say it was maybe twenty twenty twenty twenty three, where

443
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Speaker 10: owners became very hesitant to fire coaches in season because

444
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 10: they were nervous that the interim coach would turn things

445
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Speaker 10: around and lead the team to a bunch of wins,

446
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Speaker 10: and that the pressure would then be on them to

447
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Speaker 10: hire the interim head coach.

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Speaker 2: The Raiders a couple of years ago didn't happen with

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Speaker 2: the Raiders.

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Speaker 4: Raiders Antonio Pierce. That's exactly right.

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Speaker 10: Twenty twenty three, they fire McDaniels, Pierce comes in, they

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Speaker 10: have a lot of success, and there's a lot of

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Speaker 10: pressure on Mark Davis to keep him because remember a

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Speaker 10: couple of years prior to that, he had fired John

455
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Speaker 10: Gruden middle of the year, gone with Bisaccio, and the

456
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Speaker 10: Raiders made the playoffs, and the Raiders were in the

457
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Speaker 10: playoffs and almost beat the Bengals in the.

458
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Speaker 4: Year the Bengals went to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 10: He didn't hire Bisaccia, he hired McDaniels. He regretted it,

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Speaker 10: so he felt like he had to give Antonio Pierce

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Speaker 10: that chance. That is what Look, I don't know a

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Speaker 10: single person that thinks might mate Thaniel will be the

463
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Speaker 10: head coach of the Miami Dolphins in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 10: Not a single person. So and my guess is Stephen

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Speaker 10: Ross included. So he's electing to not take a chance

466
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Speaker 10: that he makes Anthony Weaver the young, you know, well

467
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Speaker 10: thought of decordinator the head coach. Weaver goes on a run.

468
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Speaker 10: All the players say, we want Weaver, we want Weaver.

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Speaker 10: I don't think Stephen Ross wants to have to deal

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Speaker 10: with that.

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Speaker 2: John Harball is taking away all the locker room toys

472
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Speaker 2: with the Ravens. According to the Baltimore Sun, what is

473
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Speaker 2: what is that going to do for this team?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Man? That you know what's amazing? It's so funny,

475
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Speaker 4: like we.

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Speaker 10: Got to google this or maybe you guys can talk

477
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Speaker 10: about it. Depending on whether the team is struggling or

478
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Speaker 10: when the new coach comes in, I've seen reports on.

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Speaker 4: Both of these over the years.

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Speaker 10: A new head coach comes in, he brings in a

481
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Speaker 10: ping pong table and in the player lounge, and it's

482
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Speaker 10: such a positive for the team because the guys are

483
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Speaker 10: all hanging out together and they're competing, Like the Eagles

484
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 10: have ping pong tables everywhere, and Hurts likes to do

485
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Speaker 10: it up and pool and Hurts does it and he

486
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 10: competes to the other guys, and Sirianni loves it because

487
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Speaker 10: they're harnessing their competitive edge and they're spending time together.

488
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Speaker 10: But then there's also the flip side where they take

489
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Speaker 10: it away and oh, now we're getting serious. It's funny,

490
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Speaker 10: I mean to me, it just kind of makes me up.

491
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Speaker 10: I will say this, I once played with a player

492
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Speaker 10: that was definitely top thing. It might have been a

493
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Speaker 10: top five pick. The most animated I ever saw him

494
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Speaker 10: in three years was when he was playing video games

495
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Speaker 10: in the player's lounge. I mean way more animated playing

496
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Speaker 10: Halo or whatever that thing was called than he was

497
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Speaker 10: on the field in a real NFL game, like a

498
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Speaker 10: real game with eighty thousand people and this other guy

499
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Speaker 10: trying to embarrass you.

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Speaker 4: That didn't really stoke his fire, That didn't do it

501
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Speaker 4: for him.

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Speaker 10: But being on a big leather couch, you know, in

503
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Speaker 10: the player's lounge playing Halo, that's when he would get

504
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Speaker 10: really animated and fired up. That team who will remain nameless,

505
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Speaker 10: should have gotten rid of the whole player lounge or

506
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Speaker 10: at least the video games, or at a minimum, banned

507
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Speaker 10: that particular player from being able to play video games.

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Speaker 2: Well, do we want to guess? So you played for

509
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Speaker 2: Washington Cowboys, Bill's Patriots, any other team.

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Speaker 10: No, but it's pretty obvious if I gave you top ten,

511
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Speaker 10: top five pick and was there for three years.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you go.

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Speaker 2: Get your laying down here, I can solve the mystery.

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Speaker 2: I think Pauli's on it right now. So Ross didn't

515
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Speaker 2: spend too much time in a place, especially three years. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Paulie has to be Washington. Yeah, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 11: Tell me, No, oh, three oh four. Well, I'm not

518
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Speaker 11: saying that. I'm not saying that. You guys got to

519
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Speaker 11: figure it out. Okay, PAULI get the item on.

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Speaker 2: Polly'll work on that. By the way, Sean Payton taking

521
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Speaker 2: a shot at Russell Wilson and uh, this is what

522
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Speaker 2: the Broncos coach had to say.

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Speaker 12: I have a ton of respect for that organization. I

524
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 12: spent four in my early years there coordinating Super Bowl,

525
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 12: first first game in this stadium, before nine to eleven

526
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Speaker 12: close with the marrit Tish family, and you know they found.

527
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Speaker 13: A little spark with that quarterback.

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Speaker 12: I was talking to John mayeror not too long ago,

529
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Speaker 12: and I said, we were hoping that that change would

530
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Speaker 12: have happened long long after our game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so he wanted to face Russell Wilson, his former quarterback.

532
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Speaker 2: Russ sent out a tweet classless but not surprised. Didn't

533
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Speaker 2: realize you're still bounty hunting fifteen plus years later through

534
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Speaker 2: the media and of course the bounty gate that cast

535
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Speaker 2: Sean Payton an entire season in twenty twelve. What do

536
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Speaker 2: you make of this?

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Speaker 10: Well, Russell certainly escalated it, that's for sure. You know,

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Speaker 10: you could have spun Peyton's comment as being primarily a

539
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Speaker 10: compliment for Jackson Dart and now he didn't want to

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Speaker 10: have to face Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 4: You could have made that the emphasis. Certainly.

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Speaker 10: I think there was a dig at Russell Wilson in there,

543
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Speaker 10: and that that was intentional, but the media took that

544
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Speaker 10: and really made it seem like it was all.

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Speaker 4: About Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 10: Russell obviously didn't appreciate it, was offended by it.

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Speaker 4: I would be two.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if I would have gone where Russell

549
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Speaker 10: did with it. But you know what, there are people

550
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Speaker 10: that have the mindset if you're gonna you gonna take

551
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Speaker 10: a shot at me, I'm gonna come back twice as

552
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Speaker 10: hard and bring up your lowest worst moment.

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Speaker 4: I don't care.

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Speaker 10: I'm not a fan of the Giants or the Bronco.

555
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Speaker 10: It's to me, it's just entertaining. Get your popcorn ready

556
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Speaker 10: and guess what. He was right, because the Bronco should

557
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Speaker 10: have lost that game. I mean, I can't believe. I

558
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Speaker 10: still can't believe the Giants lost that. I've never seen

559
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Speaker 10: that before. Thirty three points in the fourth quarter, but Dan,

560
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Speaker 10: it was twenty six to eight Giants with a little

561
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Speaker 10: over five minutes left in the whole game. The Giants

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Speaker 10: scored a touchdown in those remaining five minutes.

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Speaker 4: That still lost the game.

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Speaker 10: I mean, give me the probability ESPN probability things or

565
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Speaker 10: whatever like. It must have been off the charts, I

566
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Speaker 10: can And they had the redhead kicker miss two extra points.

567
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Speaker 10: He got fired yesterday, I mean, just day wild games.

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Speaker 10: I guess on some level, Sean Payton's right, because I

569
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Speaker 10: do not think Russell Wilson would have put up thirty

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Speaker 10: two points like that out in Denver.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Paulie looks like he's got an answer here.

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Speaker 8: This is the Ping Pong player that played harder at

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Speaker 8: ping No video game video games than he did on

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Speaker 8: the field. Ross with the Bills high draft pick. I'm

575
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Speaker 8: gonna go offensive tackle out of Texas, Mike Williams.

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Speaker 4: I think that's all the time I have for you, guys.

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Speaker 2: Wait, is it an offensive tackle or was that the

578
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Speaker 2: defensive lineman? Offensive tackle?

579
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Speaker 4: So listen.

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Speaker 10: I'm not telling you, guys the answer. I gave you

581
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Speaker 10: plenty of hints. I'm pleading the fifth. I'm not saying

582
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Speaker 10: yes or no. I'm just saying I played with a

583
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Speaker 10: guy during my career that I got more animated playing

584
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Speaker 10: video games than he did than he did on the field.

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Speaker 2: Have fun tomorrow night, Vikings, Chargers, Westwood One, and thanks

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Speaker 2: for joining us.

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Speaker 4: As always, absolutely you, guys.

588
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Speaker 2: That's Ross Tucker.

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Speaker 2: We bring in Don Mattingly. The numbers the official numbers

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Speaker 2: are five and thirty one games over thirty six seasons

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Speaker 2: as a player, coach, manager, and you're going to your

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Speaker 2: first World Series. How's it feel?

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Speaker 13: It feels pretty good.

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Speaker 10: Dan.

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Speaker 13: How many shows you probably got the similar amount of shows?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and I haven't won either.

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Speaker 13: I haven't won to owe you one for sure.

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Speaker 2: What's your role as a bench coach for the Blue

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Speaker 2: jaysh anymore?

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Speaker 13: It's getting It just fills less and less. I think

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Speaker 13: when I first came here, John was, you know, in

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Speaker 13: his first year of first full year of managing. I thought,

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Speaker 13: you know, I felt like my role was to come

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Speaker 13: in and just be a voice for him and be

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Speaker 13: another set of eyes as he went through it. It

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Speaker 13: feels like it's getting less. I kind of look to

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Speaker 13: Marlow Hale and myself for here. We're both over sixty,

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Speaker 13: and I call us the perspective coaches. We've got to

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Speaker 13: keep things in perspective. As the season goes and it

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Speaker 13: gets a little crazy, you lose a couple of games

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Speaker 13: and got to try to keep it in perspective. But

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Speaker 13: in general, you know, going through the game with John

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Speaker 13: and staying up, I do more of the offensive side

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Speaker 13: of Hey, you want to pinch it here, we want

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Speaker 13: to run, you know, just kind of staying on top

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Speaker 13: of a few things. So he's usually thinking about pitching

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Speaker 13: or what he's going to do next inning or whatever,

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Speaker 13: and I just try to make sure I'm just kind

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Speaker 13: of keeping up with the game for him.

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Speaker 2: Love is going through your mind when you're trailing in

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Speaker 2: Game seven.

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Speaker 13: Uh, you know what, trust? This has been a team

627
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Speaker 13: that all year long, like through this postseason, we've came

628
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Speaker 13: down to like, we need to win last day of

629
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Speaker 13: the season to give ourselves a few days and get healthy,

630
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Speaker 13: get our pitching together. Uh, we get down a couple

631
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Speaker 13: of games, we lose the game in New York, we

632
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Speaker 13: got to lead, it could have could have turned And

633
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 13: all year long, this has been a team that I

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Speaker 13: could sit here and go, you know what, I trust

635
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Speaker 13: these guys. And that doesn't mean it's going to work out,

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Speaker 13: But for the most part, these guys show up and

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Speaker 13: they play. They're a team and they are really fun

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Speaker 13: to be around.

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Speaker 2: Of all the teams that you're going to face in

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Speaker 2: the World Series, and it happens to be the Dodgers,

641
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Speaker 2: what are you thinking when you go back to Los Angeles,

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00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: what kind of feelings, Uh, no, good.

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Speaker 13: I had a great run there in LA and walked

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Speaker 13: away from there, you know, feeling good, didn't feel like,

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Speaker 13: you know, any negativity towards those guys, and and then

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Speaker 13: going back it's it's really more it's kind of like

647
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Speaker 13: going to New York at this time of year. It's like, hey,

648
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Speaker 13: what do we have to do to win a game? Right?

649
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Speaker 13: And it's it's business. It's it's pretty much that for us. Obviously,

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Speaker 13: I've never been in a World Series, so I'm gonna

651
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Speaker 13: enjoy this. I've been enjoying this ride with this team.

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 13: It's a fun team. It's a team you can trust.

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Speaker 13: It's probably the best word you can say as a

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Speaker 13: coach or a manager is that you can trust these guys.

656
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Speaker 2: What's it been like though, all of those years where

657
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: you're watching somebody else win a World Series or go

658
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: to a World Series.

659
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 13: You know, different phases of that. Obviously, early earlier as

660
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 13: a player, you always feel like you're going to get there.

661
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 13: Always felt like we were going to win it. You know,

662
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 13: any level that I've ever been, we've won, and I

663
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 13: always felt like we were going to win. In New

664
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 13: York as a player, I felt that way as a coach,

665
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 13: I felt that way a coach in LA I felt

666
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 13: that way. Miami maybe had one year there, we had

667
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 13: a little run, but it wasn't quite as good as

668
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 13: I would have liked there. So yeah, I've always felt

669
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 13: like I was going to get there and have a

670
00:35:59,440 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 13: chance to win.

671
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: What's it like now to have a younger son. I

672
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: think you have three grown boys, but now a younger

673
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: son watching dad on the big stage in a World Series.

674
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 13: It's been a lot of fun watching him go through

675
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 13: this and the difference I think with my older boys,

676
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 13: you know, we never got on this run, so they

677
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 13: didn't do this, you know, extra month of baseball where

678
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 13: you get to go and you get to have the

679
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 13: celebrations and you get to go through, you know, losing

680
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 13: the first couple of games here and having to you know,

681
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 13: have some must win games and different spots on the road.

682
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 13: But to have him go through it and kind of

683
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 13: see his love of baseball grow. And that's what's been

684
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 13: kind of fun this year is he's just really kind

685
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 13: of gotten into baseball. You know, Kirk Gitt's a couple

686
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 13: of homers. The next thing, you know, Louie wants to

687
00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 13: be a catcher, you know, and then it's like this

688
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 13: is great, you know, so it's been fun to watch

689
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 13: him go through it.

690
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: But go back, and this is what ninety five, when

691
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: you hurt your back or you may have to make

692
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: that decision that you're going to retire, and how old

693
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: are your boys? Then like, if it doesn't happen, you're

694
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 2: going to continue to play for a little while longer.

695
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: And that team was going to World Series, so you

696
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: may have held on even longer, but you wouldn't have

697
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: been at home with your boys at that time. So

698
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, can you look at it as a

699
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: blessing that you did get hurt and then you retired

700
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: so you could be at home.

701
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 13: One hundred percent? I don't. I feel like I had

702
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 13: a choice at that point in ninety five and I

703
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 13: was actually starting I finally had kind of found a routine,

704
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 13: you know, with my back that I was able to

705
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 13: start to figure out, Okay, I can play, do this

706
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 13: much work, and I stay fairly healthy. Right, So that

707
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 13: part I'd kind of figured out. But the family part

708
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 13: I couldn't figure out. Because all I was doing in

709
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 13: ninety five and really ninety four I probably would have

710
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 13: retired after ninety four, if the strike didn't come along,

711
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 13: all I was doing Dan was in Jersey. The kids

712
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 13: weren't really coming anymore. They were at an age where

713
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 13: they were starting to play Little League and they didn't

714
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 13: want to come to New York and sit around and

715
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 13: do nothing. So all I was doing off the road

716
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 13: was come I'd go home, I'd go to the bedroom,

717
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 13: I'd go down through the kitchen, grab a cup of coffee,

718
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 13: and go to the ballpark and rinse and repeat every day.

719
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 13: And that just wasn't enough at that point. And for me,

720
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 13: so the baseball part I still loved. I still felt

721
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 13: like I was starting again, starting to get where I

722
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 13: could produce again. But that other side of it, like

723
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 13: the thought of my boys me trying to play more

724
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 13: and not being a part of their lives, I just

725
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 13: couldn't do that. And I'm so glad I did what

726
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 13: I did, and because I don't think they would have

727
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 13: known me near as well if I would have kept playing.

728
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 13: And yeah, I lost out. You know, at the end

729
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 13: of the day, I didn't get rings I may have

730
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 13: had a chance for but I would do I would

731
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 13: not I would not change it at one one bit.

732
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: Don Mattingly, the Blue Jays bench coach and a former

733
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: batting champion. You know, we met in nineteen eighty three,

734
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: and there is actually a report that I did on

735
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 2: CNN on you. I think it's from nineteen eighty four.

736
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: It's on YouTube, and I will say, I look pretty

737
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: damn good back then. But you you had that mustache.

738
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: You look pretty good back then.

739
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 13: I don't even want to look at those pictures because

740
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 13: you feel you feel good on the inside, you feel

741
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 13: the same, and then you see the mirror and you're like, ooh,

742
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 13: the skin. The skin was a lot tighter in those days.

743
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: Did you How did you feel about Donnie was a nickname?

744
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 13: You know what, I didn't mind it because at number one,

745
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 13: it came from Kirby. It was just awesome, awesome guy

746
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 13: who kind of he started this baseball baseball baseball thing

747
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 13: at a dinner we would do.

748
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: And Kirby Puckett gave you that nickname Kirby oh wow.

749
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 13: And it started in Rochester, New York. We did a

750
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 13: dinner uh for Kenny Kaiser Uh passed away, got the

751
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 13: rest of soul. But we do it from every year

752
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 13: and you kind of hang around afterwards, you know, you

753
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 13: might have a few drinks and Kirby talking then gets

754
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 13: going and Donnie baseball, baseball, Donny baseball, and it just

755
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 13: kind of hit and it stuck somehow. I don't know

756
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 13: how it got passed on. But then I thought later,

757
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 13: I said, you know, I've probably been called a lot worse,

758
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 13: So I'm like that I should Probably that one's that

759
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 13: one's okay.

760
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: Critique, well not critique, I guess analyze. Show he Tani

761
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: at the plate.

762
00:40:54,840 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 13: Oh, I probably shouldn't do that. Probably shouldn't do that.

763
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 13: But I mean, I haven't looked at him really really close.

764
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 13: But I think, like anyone, there are places to go

765
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 13: to get him out right, And it doesn't mean you

766
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 13: can go there all the time. That means you got

767
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 13: to find different ways to get there.

768
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: But the strategy of having him lead on, could you

769
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: imagine in today's game you might lead off?

770
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's it's different, right.

771
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 13: I think it depends on your lineup, right. I think

772
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 13: the year, one of my biggest years, Billy put me

773
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 13: in a two hole and that was ahead of his time,

774
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 13: you know, hitting in front of windfield behind Ricky, so

775
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 13: that was a great spot to hit it. I always

776
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 13: felt like the two hole was probably the best spot

777
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 13: to hit in if you have a really if you

778
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 13: have a deep lineup, and that means you're eight to

779
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 13: nine guys are getting on base, which for me in

780
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 13: that year iank was Willie Randolph hit ninth with maybe

781
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 13: a four hundred on base and then Ricky. It was

782
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 13: just a perfect spot. But yeah, the game, I think

783
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 13: we've seen it with Atlanta when they did it was

784
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 13: so lair. In the World Series, they threw him in

785
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 13: the one hole. He hits some big homers, it gets

786
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 13: him an extra at bat because that spot comes around

787
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 13: if it's a close game in the ninth, you're getting

788
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 13: to the ninth, that spot's probably coming around for the

789
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 13: extra at bat. And who do you want to get at,

790
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 13: You know, a leadoff guy that may be a high

791
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 13: own base guy, but or do you want the guy

792
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 13: that can change the game right there.

793
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: So you don't want to give me any secrets. You

794
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: don't want to give the Dodgers any secrets on what

795
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: you think about Tony.

796
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 13: I mean probably the whole league tries to do the

797
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 13: same thing Dan with the information that they have today.

798
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 13: You know, everybody knows where you can go or where

799
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 13: the spots are to get him out. But that doesn't

800
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 13: mean when he's swinging good, he doesn't get there. And

801
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 13: it doesn't mean you can just keep going there, right,

802
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 13: You can't just keep doing it. You got to find

803
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 13: different ways to get to that spot or those spots,

804
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 13: whatever they are. And that's that's what makes it tough.

805
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 13: It makes him tough. Mookie. I mean, Freddy, they got

806
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 13: a club now, so you know we're gonna show up

807
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 13: and play. So it'd be a series.

808
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: What's your favorite Ricky Henderson's story?

809
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 13: Uh, I probably look at think of it differently. I

810
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 13: think not necessarily a story, just memories right of you know,

811
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 13: when we go to Oakland, Ricky would he invited me out.

812
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 13: We have lunch his house with his girl and just

813
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 13: seeing his place, and I remember he had this beautiful

814
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 13: weight room. I'm like, man, this equipment's nice, and I said,

815
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 13: you use this in the winter. He's like, nah, basically

816
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 13: do pushed ups and sit ups and run sprints. So

817
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,959
Speaker 13: he had this beautiful weight room that he never really used.

818
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 13: But I just have memories like that, just him and

819
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 13: I just kind of hit it off, you know, on

820
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 13: the field and off and I thought that was That's

821
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 13: what I think about.

822
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: Did he talk in third person to you?

823
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 13: No? I mean I think we all kind of like

824
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 13: take this stuff a little further than it needs to go, right.

825
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 13: But you know, Ricky, Ricky was sharp for me. He

826
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 13: was a he was a player that knew what he

827
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 13: was doing and and and was smart. I felt like

828
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 13: off the field too, Uh, wasn't doing crazy stuff.

829
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 12: Uh.

830
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 2: Do you feel like an underdog in this series?

831
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 13: Yeah, a little bit. I mean I think you have to.

832
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 13: I mean the Dodgers have got experience. Uh, you know,

833
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 13: they won last year. They've showed it. You see a

834
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 13: little bit of the bulls like in Michael's years with

835
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 13: the regular season doesn't really it's like if they get in,

836
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 13: who wants who wants to play them? So they've got

837
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 13: that experience in that pedigree. But the great thing about

838
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 13: our club, and I say I've said it a couple

839
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 13: of times, they just show up and play. It feels

840
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 13: like sand Lot with our guys. I mean, I'm okay,

841
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 13: they look like they're having fun. They've always just showed

842
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 13: up and played. We lose two or three in a

843
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 13: row during the regular season, they show up play. We

844
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 13: won five or six in a row. They look the same.

845
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 13: They show up and they play, and I think that's

846
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 13: what we'll do. I think we'll show up and we'll play.

847
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 13: We played pretty good baseball. We catch the ball, we

848
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 13: run the bases decent. We can put it in play

849
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,959
Speaker 13: a little bit. Their starting pitching is really really good.

850
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: Uh.

851
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 13: Those those you know, the four guys they threw that

852
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 13: last series, they're all number ones. So I mean it's

853
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 13: it's gonna there's gonna be a battle.

854
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: Do you think about the Hall of Fame?

855
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 13: Uh?

856
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 8: Now?

857
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 13: And then more when people bring it up, only you know,

858
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 13: and I've started. I think I've changed over the years.

859
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 13: You're kind of like, man, whatever, I've played my cards

860
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 13: or whatever. But I think I look back at it

861
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 13: now and go, you know what, there's not a guy

862
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 13: in there, a pitcher in there that I don't think

863
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 13: I could hit. There really isn't. There really isn't. There's

864
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 13: never been a guy that I didn't think I could hit.

865
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 13: And I know that if I was on the field

866
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 13: with those guys, I wouldn't be out of place. And

867
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 13: that's but after that, I don't what am I gonna do?

868
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: You keep going, Yeah, but we put in guys who

869
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: got injured and their careers cut short. We do this

870
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: in all sports, especially football.

871
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, Dan, you know what, you know, I'm not gonna politic.

872
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 13: I'm just going I basically did what our club does,

873
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 13: showed up and I played. Now I'm raising boys and

874
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 13: getting along in baseball, getting older. I think I'd be

875
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 13: just as happy being a bench coach or advisor or

876
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 13: coaching Louie's TENU team. You know, it's just like and

877
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 13: just get a different perspective over time. So that part

878
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 13: of my life is those cards have been played. But

879
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 13: I do feel like, like I know, I wouldn't be

880
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 13: out of place on a field with any of those guys.

881
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: So Randy Johnson, Steve Carlton, no no problem, bring them on.

882
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 13: No, yeah, I say bring them on. I don't say

883
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 13: no problem.

884
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

885
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 13: There's guys that give you problems that but you figure

886
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 13: them out. You got to try to figure it out.

887
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 13: And Randy was kind of the opposite. Hit Randy early

888
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 13: really well, as he started to get the slider over,

889
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 13: he'd give me more and more trouble, all right, And

890
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 13: that doesn't mean that like Carlton, I faced him, but

891
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 13: he was he was kind of past his prime. Why

892
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 13: I didn't get to see the nasty slider and all that.

893
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 13: But I just think I just know that I figured

894
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 13: it out. I figured it out. I've never felt like

895
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 13: anybody really ever overpowered me, and nobody that I felt

896
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 13: like throw too hard for me, any of that kind

897
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 13: of stuff, and just kind of always figured it out.

898
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you again. Congrats, have fun, we'll

899
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: be watching, and uh, thanks for joining us.

900
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 13: Thanks Dan, It's always good to talk to you. And

901
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 13: I didn't get thrown out of a game this year.

902
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 13: I know.

903
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 2: I thought I could have gotten a uniform, a Toronto uniform.

904
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: I got your Dodger uniform over there, still on in

905
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: the mannequin, and I have your Hitman poster in the

906
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: man cave as well.

907
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 13: I like it. I like it. Damn all right, you

908
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 13: guys have a good one. Thank you.

909
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 4: Don