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Speaker 2: First of all, let me just say to the family

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Speaker 2: of Jessica, I want to thank them for being at

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Speaker 2: this place, at this site.

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Speaker 3: I know it is not easy.

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Speaker 2: I know every time they come anywhere close to this

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Speaker 2: area they are reliving the worst moment of their lives.

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Speaker 2: As many of you probably do know, two years ago,

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Speaker 2: we unfortunately lost Jessica after going missing. Jessica's sisters found

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Speaker 2: her deceased just steps away from where we're standing right now,

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Speaker 2: And since that day, this family has had absolutely no

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Speaker 3: They've gotten no answers in this case.

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Speaker 1: This is from a press conference I attended that on

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Speaker 1: August eighth, twenty twenty one. The man speaking is New

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Speaker 1: Orleans District Attorney Jason Williams. The woman he just mentioned

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Speaker 1: is Jessica Easterly Darning, the person at the center of

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Speaker 1: this story. Jessica wasn't a New Orleans native, but it's

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Speaker 1: where she spent a good chunk of her life, right

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Speaker 1: here in the neighborhood of Lakeview, where this press conference

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Speaker 1: was held. By appearance alone, nothing bad could ever happen

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Speaker 1: in this charming Maybury esque setting. But on August twenty second,

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, this is where Jessica was found, just a

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Speaker 1: gruesome discovery not trained investigators nor innocent bystanders, but her

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Speaker 2: Of today's press conference on these railroad tracks, however, is

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Speaker 3: Public appeal to this community.

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Speaker 2: We need you to speak up, because in order to

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Speaker 3: The law enforcement community needs your help.

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Speaker 2: This city, the five thousand plus unsolved cases, needs your help.

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Speaker 3: This family needs your help. I need your help, and.

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Speaker 2: I want to say to this family, just like I

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Speaker 1: Some people in this neighborhood didn't even know this case existed,

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Speaker 1: And if they did, how hard did they canvas. My

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Speaker 1: but I didn't go it alone. With me is my

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Speaker 4: If I'm one of the detectives called out here, I'm

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Speaker 5: What a weird place to find a body?

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Speaker 4: Just because I literally can go forty yards over here,

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Speaker 5: Very long time. So it's just weird to me. I know.

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Speaker 5: I just keep going back to, what are the odds?

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Speaker 4: What do you? What are you doing back here? Why

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Speaker 1: has loomed over this case, sparking outrage and Jessica's loved

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Speaker 1: I just wish I would have known then better before

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Speaker 5: I might have some information that y'all would find helpful.

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Speaker 1: From resonate recordings and Tenderfoot TV. I'm your host, Jessica Nole.

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Speaker 1: This is undetermined. From time to time, Jessica's family travels

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Speaker 1: from Mississippi to the New Orleans neighborhood of Lakeview, where

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Speaker 1: her body was found. With a freshly printed stack of flyers,

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Speaker 1: Happened to Jessica Easterly. Jessica's family has always been of

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Speaker 1: vction that brought me to Biloxi, Mississippi, where Jessica was

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Speaker 1: born and where our story begins. Fifteen. To understand more

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Speaker 8: I'm Amanda Barnes, I am Jessica's little sister.

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Speaker 1: I'm Audrey, and I'm Jessica's older sister.

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Speaker 8: Audrey and I are half sisters. Our father married Jessica's mother.

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Speaker 1: But in our family, if we don't say half sisters.

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Speaker 8: I got married in April of eighty nine, just before

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Speaker 1: So we'll just say I was sixteen, so that would

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Speaker 1: They're all smiles and we're matching formal lace dresses with

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Speaker 1: as Audre, does recall is Jessica couldn't take her eyes

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Speaker 1: I didn't really stay home. I was always out and

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Speaker 8: She was my older sister in high school whenever I

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Speaker 1: Eventually they meshed as blended families often do, but it

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Speaker 5: It was love.

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Speaker 1: There was love there, like you could tell you know

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Speaker 8: I mean, no family is perfect. I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: After graduation, Jessica started her journey into adulthood. In the

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Speaker 6: My name is Maria Kreole, and I was Jessica's best friend.

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Speaker 6: We met when Jessica was in college. She was dating

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Speaker 6: You couldn't not hit it off with Jessica. She was

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Speaker 1: Her sister says. Something in Jessica changed after she met Justin,

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Speaker 1: We met on a boat and have been together ever since.

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Speaker 8: I think that Jessica hit a point in her life where.

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Speaker 1: She wanted to believe in love.

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Speaker 8: And she'd be the stay at home mom bringing her

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Speaker 1: The beaver cleaver type thing.

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Speaker 1: On February twenty fifth, twenty fifteen, at sunset, Justin and

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Speaker 1: It was the day Jessica had dreamed of, the day

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Speaker 7: It was very small, not plan. The only thing plan is.

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Speaker 7: They rented a room. It wasn't even like a ballroom

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Speaker 7: They had a preacher. I helped her make her bouquet

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Speaker 7: She was giddy she was absolutely giddy. Her mom was quiet.

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Speaker 7: She was like, I can't believe I'm going to marry

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Speaker 1: And just like that, Jessica had her own little family.

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Speaker 7: It was just I mean, the way he acted, the

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Speaker 7: I'm like, well, where's Jessica. Well, she just ran out

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Speaker 7: We would end up talking because I would be calling

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Speaker 1: Towards the end. This is how Erica remembers many of

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Speaker 7: I loved our little talks. She always would tell me

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Speaker 6: I wish I could go back.

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Speaker 7: I wish I wish I could relive one of those moments,

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Speaker 1: And as the years passed, friends and family felt more

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Speaker 6: She contacted me on the twelfth, The thirteenth came and

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Speaker 6: saying he doesn't know where she is. And like, my

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Speaker 6: I was like, okay, well, what about her phone like

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Speaker 6: He was like, well, uh, you're just gonna freak grace

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Speaker 6: Like what is there to freak out about? What do

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Speaker 6: And I said, if Jonathan came home and my cell phone,

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Speaker 6: to the police, Like right now, I'd be standing in

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Speaker 6: to send them to your house. So I called the police,

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Speaker 6: She was like, oh, hang on, because we wouldn't tell

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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, August fourteenth, twenty nineteen, just after ten pm.

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Speaker 1: Two officers pull up to the Derneys home. This is

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Speaker 1: Jessica's family. As the officer approaches the one story brick house,

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Speaker 1: He cautiously approaches and illuminates the front storm door, but

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Speaker 1: he sheds light onto the brick, revealing the address placard,

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Speaker 9: Oh did you live here? We're told? Is no one

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Speaker 9: I know my.

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Speaker 1: Wife, Justin's dog is inconsolable the moment he sets eyes

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Speaker 10: Let him just say hi. So he's not far to

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Speaker 11: You go see how over?

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Speaker 10: Okay, So all right, we're just exciting.

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Speaker 11: Hey baby, Yeah, he's rambling.

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Speaker 10: He's going through a bunch of training right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so, yes, So what's going on with my wife?

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Speaker 12: About twelve o'clock I came home and we sat and

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Speaker 10: And the car's here, her wallet's here, everything's here. And

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Speaker 10: I'm not trying to freak my daughter out because.

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Speaker 12: She's fifteen, just started anyway, I'm freaking because this is

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Speaker 12: not indicative of my wife. So I called everybody I know,

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Speaker 10: And I mean, you guys are well, come in if

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Speaker 11: At Sure you called? No, they call because she's what

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Speaker 11: are missy? I'm sure your wife she's gone, her car's going.

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Speaker 10: Now, cars here, a wall, it's here. How long ago?

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Speaker 11: How long she's been going?

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Speaker 10: Like twelve thirty, twelve, fifteen, day thirty. I fell asleep,

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Speaker 10: So I don't today. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Initially, Justin describes a situation as unusual, not indicative of

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Speaker 12: She's depressed, bipolar, but she saw meds and stuff and

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Speaker 10: I mean, she she handles it. She's five five six

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Speaker 10: five seven, one hundred and fifteen pounds, dark brown hair, preddy.

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Speaker 10: Her birthday Saturday.

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Speaker 11: She's taking medics.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, she's on medicine.

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Speaker 12: But I mean it's not even it's not like I mean,

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Speaker 12: and she's a psychologist by trade, so not to show.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, she says she left before like this is the

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Speaker 10: Never, never, and that's what's got me concerned.

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Speaker 11: But I mean since twelve thirty dight.

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Speaker 9: She just apparently warned it off and we're just now

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Speaker 12: I mean, well, no, what happened was is I woke

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Speaker 10: I woke up round.

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Speaker 9: Okay, piece was made and a piece of was made, okay,

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Speaker 9: and she's gone right.

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Speaker 12: And the car is here, the keys are here versus here,

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Speaker 10: She's not from here. She's lived here seven years, six

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Speaker 12: Know, I was kind of giving it and you know,

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Speaker 11: See if she wondered back. I mean, she's never done

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Speaker 10: No, no, no, no, and that's that's my concern. And

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Speaker 12: This has been real resposed out for a couple of

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Speaker 9: Man, okay, well you you you checked off some good

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Speaker 11: I would never put anything like it in the.

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Speaker 9: Jail, you know, but at this point, I think of

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Speaker 10: Of course they told me twenty four hours.

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Speaker 9: Now, well the circumstances though, twenty four hours another coming

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Speaker 10: I would think she's been she's made complain I mean

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Speaker 10: I checked it.

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Speaker 9: Right, right, Well, there's reason for alarm, yeah it is.

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Speaker 9: But you you you know made those checks. That that's good.

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Speaker 9: That's that's pretty fanty.

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Speaker 10: What else to do?

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Speaker 12: I mean I left the phone best because I started

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Speaker 12: to do GPS, you know, to see if I can

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Speaker 12: find out the tablet, the phone, the first everything she.

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Speaker 10: Made a pizza.

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Speaker 11: Oh, she left phone, everything, the nothing to trace her.

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Speaker 12: Well, what happened was my phone blew off my motorcycle.

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Speaker 10: Yeah that was great.

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Speaker 12: Fifteen hourd bucks fly off the handle bars for my

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Speaker 12: fault anyway.

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Speaker 10: So we're kind of sharing a phone, but usually if she.

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Speaker 12: Goes somewhere, she'll take the phone because I had the

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Speaker 12: iPad at home.

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Speaker 1: As officers are wrapping up their wellness check, the conversation

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Speaker 1: turns a little more casual.

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Speaker 9: The thing is, if she wondered about in Lakeview, Lakeview,

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Speaker 9: people are.

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Speaker 12: Going to call that and that's just eighty four. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: so yeah, oh, oh my goodness. Yeah, I got the

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Speaker 12: house the old fashioned way. Oh yeah, my mother passed away.

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Speaker 11: Oh I know. Yeah, I've seen this house for years.

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Speaker 10: My dad. My dad's eighty six.

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Speaker 11: I've been seventy nine.

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Speaker 12: I've been seventy nine. John, oh, forty four, forty forty Wow,

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Speaker 12: before I thought you about to see your forty four,

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Speaker 12: I'm I'm forty seven. No freaking way, I'm looking at

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Speaker 12: Jpso right now I gotta get out of the house.

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Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good work, that's a good quace

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Speaker 11: to work. It is.

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Speaker 12: I'm just forty six. I'll be four six, your first

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Speaker 12: time law enforcement, the first time law enforcing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just before leaving, the other officer times in and

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Speaker 1: let's justin know that another n OPD unit will be

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Speaker 1: coming out soon and they'll call ahead of time so

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Speaker 1: we can put his dog away before they arrive.

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Speaker 10: My name's j Justin, brother by Valery Jay, I'm a junior. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 10: I mean time.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, here, thank you, brother Michael on all right, your

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Speaker 12: name Jay Darny.

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Speaker 1: It's important to know that no police report is created

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Speaker 1: from this wellness check, per our public records request. But

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Speaker 1: as promised, approximately two hours later, another unit from the

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Speaker 1: n OPDS Third District would return to the home, this

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Speaker 1: time to open an official missing person's investigation. And let's

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Speaker 1: just say this visit would be quite different from the first.

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Speaker 13: Hey, we're on this twenty one m it's actually my neighbor.

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Speaker 13: They live three houses away from me. Yeah, he's a

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Speaker 13: strange individual to the husband. I've lived here for three

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Speaker 13: years now and I see him outside all the time,

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Speaker 13: but I have never seen this woman ever. I've always

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Speaker 13: wondered where his wife is because I knew that he

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Speaker 13: was married, but I've never seen him to me, It's

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Speaker 13: just like someone's.

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Speaker 11: Not ready here.

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