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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George, Norie with you.

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Speaker 2: Steve Gonsalz Back with us has been a public speaker

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Speaker 2: and educator about paranormal phenomena for more than two decades.

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Speaker 2: He helped pave the way for a worldwide paranormal explosion

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Speaker 2: as a main cast member of the hit television series

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Speaker 2: that you may remember, ghost Hunters, as well as Ghost

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Speaker 2: Hunters Live, Ghost Hunters Academy, and Ghost Nation. Steve has

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Speaker 2: started his work in paranormal studies at a very young

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Speaker 2: age and has investigated more than fifteen hundred reportedly haunted locations.

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Speaker 2: Along with his multiple appearances on a variety of television, radio,

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Speaker 2: and paranormal series, he is the executive produced and co

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Speaker 2: directed the hit documentary films The House in Between One

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Speaker 2: and Two. In his book We're Talking about Tonight is

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Speaker 2: called The Life with Ghosts. Steve, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: How have you been, Hey, George? I've been really good.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for asking. I hope you've been well.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, fifteen hundred hundred locations was at school? Were

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Speaker 2: any of them scary?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Some of course, can be quite i'd say startling.

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 3: You definitely get you know, your blood pumping. But there

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Speaker 3: have been a few that, you know, you really look

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Speaker 3: at your fellow investigator and you kind of say, God,

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Speaker 3: I'm glad I'm not in here alone.

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Speaker 4: I'd be quite scary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you get interested in the supernatural?

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Speaker 3: For me, it was really an interest early back. I

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Speaker 3: remember a movie called The Entity that really kind of

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Speaker 4: Scared me quite honestly.

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Speaker 3: I was terrified and started crying towards the end of

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Speaker 3: it a bit. My mom was like, with you watching

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Speaker 3: and you know, certainly shut the TV off or whatever.

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Speaker 3: And I remember right before that seeing it's say based

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Speaker 3: on true events, and that really kicked off my love

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Speaker 3: for it. But I've been going ever since, really, and

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Speaker 3: I was maybe eight or nine years old then maybe

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Speaker 3: even a bit younger.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about the metamorphosis of the new book, A

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Speaker 2: Life with Ghosts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we you know, I spent quite some time just

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Speaker 3: thinking of all the different places we've been and experiences

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Speaker 3: that were poignant to me, and really stories that I

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Speaker 3: connected to in terms of the people behind them and

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Speaker 3: the people even behind the ghosts that we were chasing after.

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Speaker 3: And that really was my turning point, saying, I want

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Speaker 3: to start writing all of this down and getting it

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Speaker 3: out to people.

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Speaker 2: And you've got about a dozen locations that you pick.

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Speaker 2: Was I got the horne in on them?

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Speaker 3: It was Actually it took quite some time really just thinking,

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Speaker 3: because I didn't want to put together, you know, a

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Speaker 3: list of here are my favorite haunted spots in the country,

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Speaker 3: or here are the haunted places in the country you

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Speaker 3: need to check out. There are plenty of those types

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Speaker 3: of books out there, and those are great, but I

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Speaker 3: wanted each story in there to be poignant to me

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Speaker 3: and things that meant a lot to me, and even

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Speaker 3: things that I thought people might not realize when it

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Speaker 4: You know, my favorite.

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Speaker 3: Haunted place may not even be the most active place

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Speaker 3: I've been. It can be a lot of other things,

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Speaker 3: like the history, the aesthetic of the building. I don't

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Speaker 3: find beauty in the decay and you really want to

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Speaker 3: was hard but we did, the co writer and I

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Speaker 3: Mike Galwezy, we did narrow it down to a dozen

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Speaker 3: or so places, and every story in there really means

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Speaker 4: I hope we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Well, you did a great job with it, Steve, you

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Speaker 2: really have. And it's fascinating to read. It's almost like

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Speaker 3: There are a few stories in there that are very

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Speaker 3: scary that they really can be, especially for someone who

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Speaker 3: And even when you dig into the history now I

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Speaker 4: A horror movie.

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Speaker 3: I just mean the horror that can be other people's

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Speaker 4: It really can't.

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Speaker 3: But the experiences in there, there are some that are

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Speaker 3: most scared I'd ever been on a case. For me, Luckily,

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Speaker 3: the paranormal doesn't really scare me all that much. I

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Speaker 3: get very startled, but it quickly translates to excitement. But

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Speaker 3: this time I did find myself really clutching onto somebody

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Speaker 4: Through this place.

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Speaker 2: A pioneer in the area of poltergeist research, doctor William

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Speaker 2: g Rohl You mentioned him prominently in the book.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was quite an honor for me to even

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Speaker 3: spend time with him. And when I met him, I

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Speaker 3: didn't even know that I was going to have that opportunity.

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Speaker 3: I went to the Ryan Research Center. I had to

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Speaker 3: do a talk on paranormal phenomena, and they had gotten

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Speaker 3: g Rohl Is. I said, well, gosh do I. Of course,

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Speaker 3: she said, well, he'd like to come to your talk,

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Speaker 3: and it was I play amazing that we did a

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Speaker 3: lot of study on energy.

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Speaker 3: Course EMF and how it really works truly, and how

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Speaker 2: How did your investigating ghost lead to television shows and

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Speaker 2: the documentaries? How did that happen?

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Speaker 3: I was in the paranormal field researching. Of course I'm investigating,

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Speaker 3: and I had joined forces with Jason Hawes, and then

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Speaker 3: quickly thereafter we had there was a team, and that

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Speaker 3: that show to this day. So here we are almost

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Speaker 3: twenty years later, the documentary was something I saw that

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Speaker 3: that place needed to be investigated at a higher level that.

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Speaker 3: And the story there, it was so fascinating to me,

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Speaker 3: just different things that I never thought even new existed,

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Speaker 3: quite fascinating the fact that they thought that the house.

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Speaker 4: In some way was learning how to communicate.

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Speaker 3: Back and not necessarily that the house had an intelligence,

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Speaker 3: to how to communicate through time. A lot of really

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Speaker 4: And then the book.

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Speaker 3: It really a lot of people were saying, hey, you should,

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Speaker 3: you know, write a book. We'd love to read about

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Speaker 3: what you've been up to in the panel world and

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Speaker 3: then I thought it was, you know, a good time

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Speaker 3: to really let people who love the shows and what

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Speaker 3: we do to be there in a bit more of

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Speaker 3: how it all sort of came about.

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Speaker 2: Of all the places you've been, Steve, and you've got

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Speaker 2: a handful in the book, is there one that stands.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good question. I think there are a

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Speaker 3: Waverley Hills, for me, is always the most amazing place,

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Speaker 3: and that's in Louisville, Kentucky Tuberculosis Hospital and every time

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Speaker 3: that is quite amazing. And only the staff there fosters

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Speaker 3: I'd say, all in all, Waverly Hills just you know,

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Speaker 3: I get teary eyed every time I come up to

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Speaker 3: it's just such a magical place.

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Speaker 2: It is truly indeed, what causes a place, in your opinion,

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Speaker 2: Steve to be haunted, I.

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Speaker 3: Think personally, and I think a lot of other investigators

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Speaker 3: will probably hold this this thought as well, that there

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Speaker 3: probably isn't just one singular sort of spark or but

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Speaker 3: I do think there are a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of different things. There can be that unfinished.

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Speaker 3: Business that it seems to be a common thread and

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Speaker 3: pattern where you just and it doesn't mean unfinished business

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Speaker 3: like you know I need, but it can be just

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Speaker 3: unfinished business in a relationship, unfinished business at a property.

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Speaker 3: And it's also I think a very strong emotional attachment

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Speaker 3: to be a terrible emotion. It can be a beautiful emotion.

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Speaker 3: It can be, but it has to be a strong one.

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Speaker 3: It seems that it is, you know, a place that

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Speaker 3: somebody really really loved. That may be where you find

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Speaker 3: or maybe they've decided to return. The mechanics I think

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Speaker 3: and I think devotion as well, your devotion to people

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Speaker 3: And the networks and everybody likes that, you know, it does.

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Speaker 3: Of course, you know, everybody would want every single show

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Speaker 3: But he had this way of investigating that I had

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Speaker 3: He definitely got some evidence where maybe some of us

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