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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Almost Famous podcast. It's been and

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Speaker 2: Ashley is here with me. Today we are covering another

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Speaker 2: episode of Netflix's show The Perfect Match. This time we

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Speaker 2: are joined by one of the contestants and also a

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Speaker 2: part of Bachelor Nation. Clayton Eckerd is with us today.

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Speaker 2: We aren't going to get into a ton of spoilers

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Speaker 2: because we're going in order. But the listeners, I'm telling

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Speaker 2: you you got to join on watch the episodes, follow

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Speaker 2: along with us. Have you've seen them already. We are

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Speaker 2: going to be releasing a breakdown of every episode of

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Speaker 2: Perfect Match. We have a very very good opportunity today though,

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Speaker 2: to have one of the focal points of The Perfect

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Speaker 2: Match this season. He was on just a few months

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Speaker 2: of ago to speak with us about some things going

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Speaker 2: on in his life. I think it was hinted at

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Speaker 2: in that interview that you were going to be joining

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Speaker 2: some type of project that we knew nothing about. Clayton,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast. And when you hinted that you

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Speaker 2: had a project coming out that we knew nothing about,

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Speaker 2: was this what we were talking about?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was being cryptic about So I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I just think it's fun to like drop

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Speaker 3: bread crops and see if anyone picks up on it.

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Speaker 4: But I also like say enough without saying too much.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's what it was.

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Speaker 2: The funny part, Clayton is that I will I can't

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Speaker 2: get into details, but I'll drop some breadcrumbs. We had

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Speaker 2: a knowledge of Rachel being on the show way long ago,

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Speaker 2: like I mean, I don't know when was this filmed.

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Speaker 4: Last September of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: That's a big span.

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Speaker 5: I heard that there might be a baby about to

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Speaker 5: be born from the Perfect Match.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that that is how long it has been.

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Speaker 2: And so we knew Rachel was going to be a

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Speaker 2: I really had no clue you were going to be

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Speaker 2: on the show, Like I had never heard that you

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Speaker 2: were going to be on the show. I had no

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what was kind of like a trick.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if this was purposeful, but Blake

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Speaker 3: Moins was the name that everyone threw out for like

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Speaker 3: the other individual, which, come to find out, I think

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Speaker 3: he was being talked to actually, so that wasn't that

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Speaker 3: wasn't just like that wasn't just a misdirection. But I

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Speaker 3: think that like the second people heard that, they're like,

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Speaker 3: that's who it is, the other person coming.

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Speaker 4: So nobody, you know, took up anything beyond that.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's been so long that you've shaved, had a haircut,

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Speaker 2: no longer looked like the same guy. Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 2: So we're in episode two right now, Clayton of the Breakdown,

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Speaker 2: We're going to keep you around to break down this episode.

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Speaker 2: I have a lot to talk to you about when

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Speaker 2: it comes to the Perfect Match and kind of the

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Speaker 2: living situations. When we planned to have you on, it

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Speaker 2: was to just co host an episode with us and

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Speaker 2: you about some of the controversies that have come out.

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Speaker 2: We don't want to give too many spoilers because we

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Speaker 2: aren't even at a point in this season where Rachel

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Speaker 4: Yet, but we do.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think any person that's falling along with

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Speaker 2: that something happened between the two of you that you

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Speaker 2: of the episode. I guess to start here. You have

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Speaker 2: done a ton of work on yourself. You mention it

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Speaker 2: on The Perfect Match that you feel like you're a

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Speaker 2: they're in The Perfect Match. You didn't have a great

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Speaker 3: I felt that enough time had passed where I was

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Speaker 3: a position where it's like, you know, how do you

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Speaker 3: have you mastered these certain capabilities that you've worked on

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Speaker 3: so hard? So that's what it was. And then Perfect

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Speaker 3: Match also was like, hey, we just want you to dance.

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Speaker 3: You know, we sell your dance videos. That's how you

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Speaker 3: I get to like go in the show, be goofy

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Speaker 5: I don't know that that's why you popped up on

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Speaker 3: Too, but that's what they They just asked me. They

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Speaker 3: And I thought, I was like, oh cool, I get

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Speaker 5: So now that there's nine episodes that have aired, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm fine with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I don't know what it is

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Speaker 3: You know, I was very mad when the episodes came

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Speaker 3: unfollow spree, and I was sitting out emails being like,

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Speaker 3: after like a day, I basically just got I told myself, look, Clayton,

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Speaker 3: it's black or white, and I'm like, look, I unfortunately

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Speaker 4: But like now I am, and so be it. You know,

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Speaker 2: I get it. I understand reality television has a thousand

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Speaker 2: So how do you deal with the pain that I

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Speaker 2: guess the television or that you I don't know, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I absolutely hurt somebody, and you know that

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Speaker 3: comes with ratifications. I felt that I took accountability by apologizing,

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Speaker 3: You know, again, I can't spoil because I know we're

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Speaker 3: so this is the least that I can do. Unfortunately, again,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it was portrayed in the way where

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Speaker 3: I don't understand why we're not showing some of the.

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Speaker 4: Stuff, but I'm not the editors.

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Speaker 3: So I ultimately just said, look like, I felt like

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Speaker 3: well took accountability. Again that in that conversation was not shown,

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Speaker 3: again I have to just basically answer to what was shown.

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Speaker 3: But I am a little bit different this time around,

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Speaker 3: I felt like there was you know, two took two

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Speaker 3: I also think like, had you seen what was what

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Speaker 3: don't feel I should take one hundred percent accountability for

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Speaker 5: Did you know that Rachel was going to be on

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Speaker 3: No, I had no idea. Maybe that was naive for that.

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Speaker 3: I mean again, I you know, people are like, oh,

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Speaker 3: how would you not think that they'd bring her on?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, because I was going on a Netflix show,

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Speaker 3: I thought, you know, I didn't think that like I

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Speaker 3: I figured obviously there could be people from other TV

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Speaker 3: I did not expect. I really genuinely was shocked when

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Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, now I understand more why I'm here.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like a punching bag still? Like do

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Speaker 2: you feel after this that you just can't get out

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Speaker 2: of this? Like get hit from all sides.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be honest with you. I think a lot

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Speaker 4: of the you know, the critiques against me are unwarranted.

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Speaker 3: I really do. I mean, again, at this point, I'm

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Speaker 3: think I did that as the Bachelor the first time around,

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Speaker 2: Surprisingly, Yeah, Breathwork's been a big This's been something I've

437
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,679
Speaker 2: implemented through the last few years. Now, you speak of

438
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 2: a spiritual journey, you speak of it on the show,

439
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,639
Speaker 2: and you speak of it during this episode. Has it

440
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 2: led you to any faith tradition or when you say

441
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 2: spiritual journey, use words like the universe bringing us together

442
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 2: that you know this might be fate, even through the

443
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,680
Speaker 2: eyes and hands of a producer saying, Hey, how cool

444
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 2: is it we have Cleyton Rachel both willing to come

445
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 2: on this show. Let's do it.

446
00:19:59,119 --> 00:19:59,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

447
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,399
Speaker 2: Where has this kind of led you as you enter

448
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 2: into episode two of The Perfect Match?

449
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like I've got a stronger

450
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,920
Speaker 3: connection with with God. You know, I wouldn't say I

451
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 3: followed organized religion anymore, but I feel that I have

452
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 3: a very very strong connection with the higher power. You know,

453
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,679
Speaker 3: it's the same higher power've always prayed to. I just

454
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 3: maybe viewed a bit differently, but you know, I took

455
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 3: my journal with me and journaled along the way. That

456
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 3: was you know, I still shout him out every time.

457
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 3: Brandon Jones on The Bacheorette is the one that taught

458
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 3: me to journal because he basically deconstructed my mind.

459
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, is that a diary.

460
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 3: He's like, you can call it whatever you want, man,

461
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 3: But like I had, you know this, I was like, oh, guys,

462
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 3: don't write in journals.

463
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 4: And you know, again, I had a long way to go.

464
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 3: So like he taught me that, so I started journaling,

465
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 3: but I basically just yeah. I mean, I was like, look,

466
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,479
Speaker 3: I've always been so concerned about what's coming or what

467
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 3: I did in the past. I've never focused on being present.

468
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 3: So when I went on the show, I was like, look,

469
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 3: focus on just being in the moment. You don't know

470
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 3: what tomorrow is going to bring. Especially on reality television.

471
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 3: They're going to throw wrenches, They're gonna throw one eighties

472
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 3: curve balls, like you can try to All you can

473
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 3: do is basically handle each moment. So I was I

474
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 3: walked into the experience being like, just focus on the

475
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 3: moments in front of you and you know. I mean

476
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 3: you can try to foreshadow or forecast what's coming, but really, again,

477
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 3: like we all know this, We've all been on reality television.

478
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 3: It's like, can we really predict what's coming down the line?

479
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: The shows want to twist things out because they want

480
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 3: us to get you know, get knocked off our rockers,

481
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 3: So we respond in a way that you know, basically

482
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 3: causes drama.

483
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, to get into the recap a little bit. So

484
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 5: Juliette tells you, because you're so deep, You're like so serious,

485
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 5: I just want to have fun. How did you feel

486
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 5: about that? That conversation would have made me feel uncomfortable.

487
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I watched it back and I thought

488
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 3: it was funny because I even said, you know, like

489
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 3: I asked to Lucy on episode one.

490
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 4: I was like I love to ask who are you?

491
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 5: And she was just like, yeah, I understand how that

492
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 5: question could be.

493
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really a deep question to me that I

494
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 3: really like to ask people. But it was just kind

495
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, I don't think this is the time

496
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 3: and place man, which was fine, Like I it was

497
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: like I kind of sound like this little Lulu guy

498
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 3: right now. That's like not my energy is not being

499
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 3: received in the you know, in the way that I'd

500
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 3: want it to. But that's fine. Like I'm not everyone's

501
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 3: cup of tea. So when Juliet said that, I was

502
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 3: just like, yeah, I mean I am. And if that's

503
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 3: that bothers you, this won't work.

504
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I wrote a lone and plain sight about asking

505
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: the question of who are you if everything else is

506
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,479
Speaker 2: stripped away? I think it's a great question. I do

507
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: think reality television end of the Perfect Match might be

508
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 2: a tough place to start talking about it immediately? Am

509
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 2: I wrong Clayton in saying through episode one and episode

510
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 2: two you were the outsider, not in terms of friends

511
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: or like likability or how you get along with people

512
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 2: in the house. It just felt like you were kind

513
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 2: of the lost puppy, going from girl to girl being like, Hey,

514
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: I want to be here next week because I think

515
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: something night work, but I haven't found like a real

516
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: match yet. Juliett definitely doesn't sound like I feel like

517
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: a real match to you. She even says that she's

518
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 2: not sure about it. She's excited for this date with Carrington,

519
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: and I have all sorts of thoughts on Carrington on

520
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: how a guy can admit that he's a self aware

521
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 2: douchebag and he loves love bombing girls to get them

522
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: to like him, and that somehow he gets away with it.

523
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: I think that's and like how you are the one

524
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: getting the heat from this season. Maybe because you're just

525
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: a bigger name, but goodness gracious, I was like, how

526
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: is this guy not the one that like never shows

527
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: up on reality television ever? Again, either way, it feels

528
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: like you're just misplaced there, man, it does. From episode

529
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: one to episode two. It just doesn't feel like you fit.

530
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen you some chatter about that, and I

531
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: never felt like I was on the outside. I mean,

532
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 3: and you mentioned Neil, you're asking more or not from

533
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 3: a friends standpoint. I mean, everyone on the show welcomes

534
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 3: me right in.

535
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: You know. I took my shot early.

536
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 3: I said, look, Clay, like, I'm gonna be bold and

537
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come out the gates and I'm gonna say,

538
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: like who I'm interested in?

539
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 4: So when Nick Lache asked you are you interested in?

540
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 4: I was like, Lucy, and I thought.

541
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 3: At that point, I was like, okay, look I'm locking

542
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 3: and I'm throwing all my chips in one basket. And

543
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: that backfired so it's like, which is fine. Like again,

544
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 3: like Daniel is a good looking dude. I kind of

545
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 3: feel like I'm the costco version of Daniel. I was like,

546
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 3: he had the you know, had the same hair style

547
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: and he's a model, and I was.

548
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 5: Like, definitely, I was like Clayton for a sec I

549
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 5: had a like double.

550
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 3: Take yeah, yeah, and he's a good looking man. So

551
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 3: I was like, it doesn't it is what it is,

552
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: you know. I wasn't upset by it, But after I

553
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 3: threw all my ages in one basket, I was like, well, shoot,

554
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: now all the girls are just like, well, you were

555
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 3: so interested in Lucy, why would I match with you?

556
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 3: And you know, and then Juliet and I basically became

557
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: the default match where it's like nobody at the end

558
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 3: of the night, it was just the two of us,

559
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 3: and I was We're like, hey, I guess we got

560
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 3: to match.

561
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 5: This is the nicest back maybe backhanded compliment. The girls

562
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 5: are chatting its Madison and Juliet and she says Clayton's

563
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 5: too serious because he came from the Bachelor, and I'm like, yes,

564
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 5: we have depth, guys, We were wholesome, we have valleys,

565
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 5: we appreciate love.

566
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, I didn't. I didn't feel that way.

567
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 3: I thought like, hey, we're all reality TV goers. But

568
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 3: there was like conversations happening where they're like, he's from

569
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 3: the Bachelor, He's so serious, and I'm like, is this

570
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: how we're portrayed? Like we're portrayed like we're just too.

571
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: Rigid and we're not loose. I'm like, guys, I'm here.

572
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 4: I'm here with all of you. All. I kind of

573
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 4: thought I let loose out the gate. You know, I'm

574
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 4: out here using.

575
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 3: An ice cube, running up you know, Lucy's leg, and

576
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: then I'm getting a belly shot taken out from me.

577
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 3: I was like, I thought I was right there. I'm like,

578
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 3: I'm in this guys, you know, like I'm right here

579
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 3: with all of you. I'm not. I'm not, you know,

580
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: I'm letting looseen have a good time. So I I yes,

581
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not as wild as some of these guys,

582
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 3: but that's just me in general, that's my personality.

583
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched that opening and I was like, this

584
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: is the moment where I realized why I didn't pursue

585
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: any other reality television when I was single, Like I

586
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: would be so so cautious.

587
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think for me, this was like this

588
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: show I knew what I was getting into. I watched

589
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 3: season two and I was like, I know, this is

590
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 3: like a little bit rong chier, but I'm like, I

591
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 3: also am comfortable and I can answer this. And worst

592
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: case scenario, I tell my mom and grandma not to

593
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 3: watch the show.

594
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 4: That's it.

595
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of things I would not want

596
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: anybody watching. Now what happens? Give us a sneak peek.

597
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 2: You and Juliet obviously kind of just like partner up

598
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: last two standing. It's not like you don't find her

599
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: attractive or she doesn't find you attractive. You know, there

600
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 2: was a little bit of a spark there. It made

601
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: sense that you two would partner up. One of the

602
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 2: wildest parts of the show to me is that you

603
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: meet somebody eight hours before and then that night when

604
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: you match. On the first night, especially, you're sleeping in

605
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 2: the same bed as them. Is that like? What is

606
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: that like?

607
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: Like?

608
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 2: How do you how does that work?

609
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm personally just comfortable. I'm like, you could

610
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 3: probably put me in a room with anybody and I'll

611
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 3: talk to him for two hours and be like, all right,

612
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 3: we can sleep. Yeah, we're good, Like, what are you

613
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: gonna do? Take me out in the middle of the night.

614
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: Like I didn't person have an issue with it. I

615
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 3: don't know how Juliette felt, but I think also, like,

616
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: you know, we are all having some drinks. So I

617
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: mean to say that anybody was sober night one, that

618
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 3: was probably just Freddie Sorry he wasn't there yet. I

619
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: don't know if there was a single sober soul night

620
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: one in that house. So it makes things a little

621
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: bit simpler when you got a little bit of like

622
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 3: a courage.

623
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's like a wild thought to me

624
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: that all of a sudden you're in this room, closed doors,

625
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: you just met each other. But everybody's excited. So maybe

626
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: that helps to everybody knows what they're getting into. As

627
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: we get in this episode, we see right away you

628
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: know that we understand that you and Juliette maybe aren't

629
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: the forever perfect match, and so she set up on

630
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: a date with this Carrington guy. As I said Carrington,

631
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 2: I'm not putting any words in his mouth. His exact

632
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: quote is, I am a self aware douchebag. I love bomb.

633
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 2: He says, out of these girls I watch this, it

634
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: was out of any moment so far in episode one

635
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: and two, this was the moment I was like, how

636
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: is this okay? Really? Was my question, like, how is

637
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: this fine? This isn't even funny.

638
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 5: It's because he admits it. Like if he admits it,

639
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 5: people aren't gonna hate on it.

640
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, like when you're self aware, you're self aware,

641
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: people go oh, at least you know it, so then

642
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 3: they don't attack you.

643
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 4: For it's when you deny it that people go after you.

644
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, that's and so he's just like, yeah, look,

645
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: I probably am this way, but you know, I mean

646
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: I have other aspects of me as well that are

647
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: fun and that you all can get to know.

648
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: I just happen to be a self aware douchebag.

649
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: But he's I mean, ultimately on this date with Juliet

650
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: and you've watched it back now, he doesn't act like

651
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: a douchebag on dates, so he and he doesn't tell

652
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: her that, right, So he's telling that to the camera

653
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: to the viewers, but the person he's on the date

654
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: with is not aware that he realizes he's a jerk

655
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: and that he is going to stare into her eyes

656
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: and do this I don't know cockneck thing, because he

657
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: thinks he's a beautiful man and she's going to fall

658
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: in love with him, and he's going to tell her

659
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: all the sweet things and then ultimately, if somebody better

660
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: comes along, he'll break her heart. You watch this date,

661
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: what was your take after watching it? Realizing that then

662
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: and this is in the episode, she comes back to

663
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: you at the end of the you know, at the

664
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: end of this Yeah, I.

665
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: Was shocked because I mean, essentially her and I had

666
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 3: talked about how we were the default match, and everyone

667
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: now now believes that, like we don't even want to

668
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: be matched with one another. But this is, you know,

669
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: all about the perfect match, and you know, we we

670
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: know that there's there's gonna be competitions coming up in

671
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: boardrooms that people are going to try to vote us

672
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: out or put us on dates, and so it's like, hey,

673
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 3: look like we know that we're going to be a target.

674
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: Let's just get to know one another and like let's

675
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: give this a shot. Like, look, okay, here we are.

676
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: We didn't we weren't with each other's first choice. Our

677
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: matches actually end up being the ones that chose each

678
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: other and we you know, we're second pick. But yeah,

679
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: once once we matched, it was like Juliette was fun.

680
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 4: She is wild.

681
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: She has a wild side tour, which I find I

682
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: chase after more so these days now, after like reality television.

683
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: Once I get off TV and I'm back in the

684
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: real world, I'm like, gosh, I need some chaos somewhere,

685
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: you know.

686
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 4: So sometimes I.

687
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: On with my partner, and sometimes I find I.

688
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: Go after women that are a little chaotic, and it's like,

689
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: I cause, I'm just like, look, they're probably not the

690
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: best for me mental health wise, but like they're fun.

691
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: You know, like every time I go out, I don't

692
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: know what kind of version of them I'm getting. And so,

693
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: you know, like Juliette had that fun I'm like, I'm

694
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: on a reality TV show, like this is a fun environment,

695
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 3: Like she's going to keep things entertaining. I was shocked

696
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: when she matched with me. I was shocked. I really

697
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: thought I was getting booted out that that night. So

698
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: when she was just like I feel like, you know,

699
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: we just are mesh better, I was like, Okay, I

700
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: I couldn't. But that also meant a lot to me

701
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: in that moment. I was like, wow, she chose me

702
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: because I thought based on the way that her and

703
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: I both spoke but talked. She was like, look, second,

704
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: like one of us ends up finding a better match route,

705
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: and I'll basically tell you. I'll give you like as

706
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: much of the heads up as I can.

707
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 4: So that's what we said.

708
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 3: When somebody comes in the house, will base in, We're like,

709
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: we know we're going to match with them. Where we

710
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: go and tell the other one like were like, hey,

711
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: look I'm gonna match with them, just so you know.

712
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: So now you have a couple hours to you know,

713
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: basically find your match in this house. And she didn't

714
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: really say that to me that night, so I was like,

715
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: is she really gonna do this to me? She's gonna

716
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: do me dirty, She's gonna match last second with Carrington

717
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: and be like sorry Clayton.

718
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: But she she didn't. She she went with me.

719
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: She just took down to the last second to do so.

720
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: But that was surprising. I still don't really know why.

721
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: I mean, she surprised me.

722
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: I know why.

723
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: It's not.

724
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, maybe, I mean again, now I think about it,

725
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 3: I was like, they must have been like, hey, look

726
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: we need.

727
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 4: To just stay We need him to stay, so we

728
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: need them.

729
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably Clayton's going home one episode before we thought

730
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: he would.

731
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say this though, there was hardly any

732
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: producer involvement, hardly ever at all. Like I will say

733
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: this straight up from Bachelor to Netflix. We all know

734
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: Bachelor producers love to stick their fingers and stuff. There

735
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: wasn't a single time on the show where the where

736
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: the producers interjected. I had like not once on that

737
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: I can remember on that on Netflix. So if maybe

738
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: they went to her, but I never had anybody talk

739
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 3: to me the entire time.

740
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 4: That I was there.

741
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: Interesting, So I had no issue with the producers. I

742
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: in fact don't even have any issues with the bat

743
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: Bachelor producers. It's the editing team that I'm like, I

744
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: need to meet you all because you guys keep seeing

745
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 3: me as a piece of meats. You've seen me as

746
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: a number, so you're like, whatever, we'll just wreck this guy.

747
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, I need you to. I need to sit

748
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: on a plane with you all, Like I sat with

749
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: these producers and you can see I'm human, and then

750
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: you'll be like, oh, he doesn't he's not the kind

751
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: of guy that he looks like because I feel like

752
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: they're just like it's really easy to just like portray

753
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: me as something. I'm like, I have nuance, and I'm

754
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: like I like the producers all seasons. I like the

755
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: Bachelor producers. That's why it was so hard for me.

756
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: Then I had to really realize, I'm like, it's editors.

757
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: Well there was.

758
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 5: If the producers tell the editors how to edit, don't

759
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 5: they I don't. I mean maybe my guess is that

760
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 5: like it's the show runner and like the higher ups

761
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 5: that say, like, this is how we want this person

762
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 5: to look.

763
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again the editors.

764
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: Again, I can't sit here and like go after them

765
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: because it's like there's somebody of them that's saying, like

766
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: this is the way that we want him to be

767
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: portrayed exactly. So it's I'm not trying to call that

768
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: it's just the editors.

769
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: It's easy.

770
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: It's like it's like it's like when people go after us,

771
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: you know, on the show and like f him, and

772
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: it's like you're really mad at the producers, but you're

773
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: attacking me because I'm the you know, the figurehead of

774
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: the season.

775
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 4: So like it's it's misplaced for me to go after these.

776
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: Editors, like, I'm sure most of them are great, but somebody,

777
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 3: you know, it's like that I'm not interacting with, is

778
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: making these decisions and it's just, you know, it's frustrating.

779
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: You're like, one person can make or break you. But

780
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: at whatever, it is, what it is. But yeah, there

781
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: wasn't a lot of producer involvement on Netflix, at least

782
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: not to my face. That nobody came up to me

783
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: and talked to me while I was there.

784
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: We've heard that, we've heard that. Now there is an

785
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: interesting twist in this episode for me. You mentioned Freddie

786
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: would be the one that would have been sober on

787
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: night one. Freddie also comes off to me. He's one

788
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: of those that enters into the house this week. He

789
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: set up on a date with Madison. Madison at this point,

790
00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 2: you know is has chosen Freddy as her date. He

791
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: he comes off on television. You correct us here, we're

792
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: trying to break down the episode and get to know

793
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: these people a little better. As a very calm collected person,

794
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: Madison is a very fun human. She does have a

795
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: wild side to her. It doesn't feel like the two

796
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: of them should match. It seems like the two of

797
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: them are like fire and ice, like very different people,

798
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 2: but somehow it works and it seems to be working

799
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: from your take. As he enters into the house, did

800
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: you realize that Cody was going to be leaving? And

801
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: also did you see the Freddie Madison thing sparking?

802
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, Freddie walks in and he has

803
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: an energy to him.

804
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 4: He is as advertised.

805
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 3: I mean, he might be one of the most genuine

806
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 3: individuals that I've met. So he walks in the house,

807
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: big old beaming smile, and it's just like instantly there's

808
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 3: an interest right, like there's you can see. It's like

809
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: you can tell when someone's like whoa Like, who's that?

810
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: And that's what Madison basically like the look that she

811
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: got in her face, and you know there is so

812
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: it wasn't wa wait, I'm mixing this up. Hold on,

813
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: she ended up going on a date with him. Yeah, so,

814
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: like I you, we kind of knew it was coming

815
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: because Cody like in her well, they won the first challenge.

816
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: It's like once she decided to put herself on a date,

817
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: you knew it was it was over.

818
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 4: It was over.

819
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: I mean when she called him out for having bad

820
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 2: breath on National television. Did you ever feel that No, I.

821
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: No, I talked to Cody. I didn't ever smell his breath.

822
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: I guess I wasn't. I wasn't kissing him either, but

823
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: but I mean when I was talking to him, I mean,

824
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: there was never some foul smell. I thought that was

825
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: wrong of her to go after him for that, because

826
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: it's like, great, now you're just gonna peg this guy

827
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 3: as the stinky breath dude, which is like, it's just

828
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,959
Speaker 3: frustrating cause now I'm like, who knows in his personal

829
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: life he's probably dealing with this, right, some girls, like

830
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: I saw this and it's like.

831
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 4: Nobody likes to have bad breath.

832
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 3: But yeah, the second that, like he came back, can

833
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: found out that second like he came back and found

834
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 3: out that uh.

835
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 4: Or he told us that she put her on herself

836
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 4: on a date, we knew it was over.

837
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: It was over.

838
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, that's that's crazy, and we're like

839
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 3: that he's done for sure.

840
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: And then I get it. I mean, Freddy is a stud.

841
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 2: He seems like a nice guy on television. You said

842
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: he's a nice guy in real life, Like, I get

843
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 2: why she goes, hey, this is my guy, it has nothing.

844
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: It's not even a knock on Cody. It's just this

845
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: guy's a little better. No, yeah, Clayton, we only have

846
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: five minutes left with you and and so I'm going

847
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: to do something. Really, because we've gone through most of

848
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: it already, the matches stay fairly the same except for

849
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: Cody and Carrington leaving the house. So from week or

850
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 2: from episode one to episode two, the matches are pretty

851
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: much the same. There's no big twists and turns. Really,

852
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: Odie goes home, Carrington goes home, and Freddie ends up

853
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: staying in the house and you are obviously still there.

854
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: The real big thing I want to talk to you

855
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: about is is my You know, this is my first

856
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: Netflix show I've ever watched, Clayton, Colton, I knew I

857
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: was going to do that at some point. It's not

858
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 2: the first time it's happened, Clayton, the first time I've

859
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: ever watched Netflix reality television show. I'm in it like,

860
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying it. I'm liking it. You guys have this

861
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: like get to know you competition at the end of

862
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 2: this episode where like everybody, it seems like everybody answered

863
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: questions beforehand in secret and then the partners had to guess,

864
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: you know, who was who. It's where I really realized

865
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: what this show was. It was my eye opening moment

866
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: to go, holy cow, this has no bad on Netflix.

867
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 4: It was hilarious.

868
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: People's answers and my answers didn't match up with the

869
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 3: other answers. But that's because I was doing a strategy

870
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: that did not get picked up by Juliet And I

871
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 3: was like, come on, I was the whole point was

872
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: you had to basically guess what your partner's answer was.

873
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: And so I wasn't writing these answers based on how

874
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: I would answer them necessarily. It was more like, Juliette,

875
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: you have said that I am like a safe kind

876
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 3: of boring individual, so I'm going to give safe.

877
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 4: Boring answers.

878
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: This makes sense.

879
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: So when I called my you know, my my nether region,

880
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 3: when I went down below safe and secure, it's like Juliette,

881
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: who else has said?

882
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 4: Who else is going to put that?

883
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 3: It's me like answer it, and she she like doesn't

884
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 3: pick any of my answers, and she's like, well I

885
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: didn't like that answer.

886
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's not the point.

887
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: The point is you have to choose my answers, and

888
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 3: I was like, I said, like in the bedroom, I

889
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: was a silver backed guerrilla.

890
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know. I feel like and I

891
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: eat steak.

892
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 3: And eggs and I'm like, oh my gosh, I feel

893
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: like I'm giving it away. I'm giving the bland answers

894
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: like and again I was like, she just was like,

895
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: I didn't like those answers. I was choosing the ones

896
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: I liked the most. I'm like, that's not the point.

897
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: Of the game, get it's a compatibility test.

898
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 5: So I guess like it was that the point of

899
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 5: the game or the point of the game is to

900
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 5: win it.

901
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 4: Well, that's that's where I think that.

902
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: There was a half of the camp there was like

903
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: it's all about compatibility.

904
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 4: The other half is like, guys, we're trying to win.

905
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 3: So I was, you know, Juliette was like, hey, I

906
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: am choosing the answers that I would be most compatible with.

907
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 3: I was like, well then we're like then we're gonna lose.

908
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 5: This is a demonstration that you guys are incompatible.

909
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, And that's what we said afterwards, like we

910
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: got the least amount of answers, right, And she was like,

911
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: I guess this.

912
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 4: Just proves it.

913
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, because I was going to win,

914
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: you were going off compatibility.

915
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 4: We weren't even on the same page.

916
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: I guess we should have talked this through, but I

917
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: thought she was gonna go for the win too. I

918
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: was like, she's a gamer and she went for compatibility,

919
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: so we're just completely off on that. And and I

920
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: just thought my answers, I was like, yeah, I don't know.

921
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: I thought it was blatantly obvious. But she kept not

922
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: picking him, and I was like, oh my gosh. And

923
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: then everyone's like, oh, he's such boring answers. I was like,

924
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: that was for a purpose. Although I will say I

925
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: wouldn't have answered them as crazy as other people though

926
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: in general, like the people on that show, some of

927
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 3: these people were they're wild. They're much wilder than I am.

928
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: So it was pretty funny the answer they gave.

929
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some people who had no boundaries.

930
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 4: Oh the vibrating the vibrating butt plug.

931
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean Lucy all of a sudden, like

932
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: Lucy's like you said, you walk in. She's this cute girl.

933
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: She you know, has it together. She's definitely kind of

934
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: like the star of the first two episodes and then

935
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: all of a sudden she reveals this. It doesn't change

936
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: her star factor, she can do what she wants, but

937
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: it does make you look at her differently. I will

938
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: say that I cannot look at her on this show

939
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: any more the same way, and a lot of these

940
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: people from their answers, I feel like, for me, I

941
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: said I know way too much about you. Yeah, for

942
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: two episodes into the show.

943
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I look, I think really people should watch

944
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 3: this show and not take it too seriously. It's a

945
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: fun show. It doesn't have the formality that the Bachelor does.

946
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: This is meant to be turned on to like be

947
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: a little bit ridiculous, to get people to be like,

948
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: you know, oh my gosh, I can't believe they said that.

949
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: That's the way in which I think you should watch

950
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: the show. So if you do that and you're like, look,

951
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 3: these people are ridiculous, then like you're just going to

952
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: watch a bunch of ridiculousness and it'll be fun if

953
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 3: you take it seriously. Again, it's just I don't think

954
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: most of us that went on there, like we obviously

955
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: took it seriously to try to match with people, but

956
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: it's like, look, we're all just be having fun. We're

957
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 3: all here in tuloom for the next month, like, let's

958
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: just live it up. A bunch of good looking people

959
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 3: in the house, Like who wouldn't enjoy this? So I

960
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: think we all were just like it was one big party.

961
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: And if you look at it that way, then you

962
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 3: can start to see why people were letting loose.

963
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: But that's what people want to watch. They don't want

964
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 4: to watch lukewarm.

965
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: They want they want crazy vibrations.

966
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: For lack of a better term. Ali and Ad ended

967
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: up winning this challenge. They are very compatible, obviously, and

968
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: we see the headlines about their relationship and kind of

969
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: where it went. The whole episode ends Clayton with Ady

970
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: and Ali in the boardroom making decisions on behalf of

971
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: the group. Clayton, I know we have to let you go.

972
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: This has been episode two of The Perfect Match. The

973
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: final episodes drop on August fifteenth. Clayton, we're entering into

974
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: episode three as you say goodbye to the listeners of

975
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: the Almost Famous podcast. Is there anything you want to

976
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: say with the stage being yours about episode three, four, five, six, seven,

977
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: eight nine.

978
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: I think if you are willing to stick around and

979
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: listen to me discuss nuance on podcasts, then you'll feel

980
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: a bit differently. But if you just watch it for

981
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 3: what it is and decide to move on with life

982
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: and say I've seen enough of this guy and this

983
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 3: is the way that I view him, then then you'll

984
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: do that. So I think there's new that can be heard,

985
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: but it's up to the viewers.

986
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 4: Listeners if they want to go down that path to understand.

987
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: Well, clay Neckard, thank you for joining us. Thank you guys,

988
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: Love to have you back soon.

989
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see you, guys.

990
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: That was Klayton Neckard with from The Perfect Match, obviously

991
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: a former bachelor, talking through really episode two of The

992
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: Perfect Match Episode one and two. We know from the

993
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: headlines that obviously things become controversial, become polarizing in Clayton's

994
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: kind of journey through The Perfect Match. We hope to

995
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 2: bring him back to talk about that, but as we've committed,

996
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: we're chronologically breaking down each episode and at this point

997
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 2: he is still with Juliette. We see then this episode

998
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 2: with Rachel, we have got a confirmation that she's attending

999
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: the villa. She's going to be going on a date

1000
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: with Freddie. We also see Adye and Ali kind of

1001
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: doing this back and forth where he is requesting Alex

1002
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: many times and she's wondering why. We don't know if

1003
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: she comes into the house, who she goes on a

1004
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: date with when the episode ends, but we do know

1005
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: that Ali is gonna He's kind of putting himself in

1006
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: the corner a little bit of what happens in the future.

1007
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: I don't think it ruins anything, but I do think

1008
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: it spoke enough to the decisions that he made and

1009
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 2: why he made these decisions. Actually, to me, it sounds

1010
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: like he's standing by them. It's interesting. I think The

1011
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: Perfect Match Ashley, I haven't watched a lot of Netflix shows.

1012
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: The Perfect Match, to me, is really fun to watch,

1013
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 2: mostly because it is so out of my comfort zone.

1014
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: And it's not even out of my comfort zone where

1015
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 2: it's like I watched this like I want to push

1016
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: myself to be like if I was single, obviously, like

1017
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: I would want to be there like this is. I

1018
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: would have said no to it, circrely because I would

1019
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: have been a fish out of water. It's not exactly

1020
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: even a comfort or I feel like I need to

1021
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: push myself to do these things. No, no, but I

1022
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: enjoy watching it I'm a fan of it. You've watched ahead,

1023
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: I have watched it. Is this something that does?

1024
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: Just watch it?

1025
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: She got into it, she doesn't like it.

1026
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 5: You guys do it together if you're gonna, you know,

1027
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 5: really watch it like you know, like if you're on

1028
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 5: episode four right now. I'm like, you guys are watching

1029
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 5: it together.

1030
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we We've enjoyed it, you know. Clayton, it's

1031
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: I'm glad he came on. I'm glad he's coming out,

1032
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: you know, agreed to come on and speak to stuff

1033
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: that's happening. I hope he comes back. And my advice

1034
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: to him then would be to never go on a

1035
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: rally television dating show again, which sounds like is where

1036
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: he's at in life.

1037
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I say, poor guy.

1038
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: I haven't watched episode three yet. Yeah, you might just

1039
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: be saying, uh, yeah, just don't do it. I don't

1040
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: know if it's poor guy as much as yeah, you

1041
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: probably just shouldn't. This has been the almost famous podcast again.

1042
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: We're breaking down the perfect match right now because we

1043
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: do have two Bachelor Nation contestants confirm to be on

1044
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: the show. Clayton's there right now. We know Rachel shows

1045
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: up very soon. Stay tuned for an episode three breakdown

1046
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: next week. We'll be breaking it down week by week,

1047
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: sometimes combining episodes together, especially as people come and go,

1048
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: but we will be doing it right here on the

1049
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: most famous podcast. Until next time, I have Been Been,

1050
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: I've Been Ashley.

1051
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for listening, HUI.

1052
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on

1053
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,120
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