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Speaker 1: This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.

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Speaker 2: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck. You did it.

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Speaker 2: We all did it.

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Speaker 3: Everyone sprinted through the finish line, and we delivered the

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Speaker 3: most epic ass kicking to Kamala the Democrats have seen

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Speaker 3: since the nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 2: All over the.

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Speaker 3: Country, left coast to right, coast, east coast to west, coast,

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Speaker 3: north to south, we are the champions. Donald Trump did it.

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Speaker 3: He survived an assassination attempt two of them, he survived

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Speaker 3: bankruptcy attempts, he survived in attempts to imprison him for

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Speaker 3: the rest of his life, and last night culminated the

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Speaker 3: greatest American political comeback I've believe in history. Just an

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Speaker 3: incredible night, one of the best nights of my life.

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Speaker 3: The only thing that could have made it better was

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Speaker 3: some potassio crim brulet. But Buck, I am still walking.

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Speaker 2: On air now. To be fair to everybody.

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Speaker 3: If I get even more names wrong, or pronounced things wrong,

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Speaker 3: or my grammar's even off, I have only slept for

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Speaker 3: two and a half hours. I was out on Broadway

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Speaker 3: last night in Nashville at kid Rocks for the close,

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Speaker 3: for the conclusion. Let me play that for everybody. Fox News.

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Speaker 3: We were all chanting, just go ahead and call Alaska.

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Speaker 3: Because it was at two sixty seven the decision was made.

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Speaker 3: Fox News made the first call that Trump had won

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Speaker 3: the presidency. This is what it sounded like. I hope

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Speaker 3: you all weren't in bed yet, but my goodness, it

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Speaker 3: sounded sweet here it.

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Speaker 4: Was She's done.

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Speaker 1: It's over officially. Yes, what a night.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited. I've been waiting for this for so long. Buck,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that was me. Is that you?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Trump twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 3: Yes, sorry, I thought that was Fox News making the call,

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Speaker 3: not me drunkenly celebrating at the bar.

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Speaker 2: So I've already had a whiff three minutes into Clay.

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Speaker 2: Let me for a second. Take's already whiffed, Have a

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Speaker 2: little water, take a moment. Clay was up, super, I

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Speaker 2: was in pajamas with Carrie, pistachio crembrowlet was had. We

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Speaker 2: had a lovely night here with Ginger.

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Speaker 3: I slept two and a half hours, Buck, I've been

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Speaker 3: I slept for two and a half hours.

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Speaker 2: Coming back from the bar, I was I was watching

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Speaker 2: the streams of the various networks on my phone with

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Speaker 2: Carrie late at night. But let's we'll get into the atmospherics. Also,

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Speaker 2: I just want to say, we want to take a

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Speaker 2: lot of calls from all of you. This is victory Day,

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Speaker 2: this is celebration day. This is you did it. You

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Speaker 2: who listened to this show, You patriots, you fellow American

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Speaker 2: who saw what was going wrong with the country and

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Speaker 2: actually wanted to fix it. And this is a huge

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Speaker 2: step in the right direction. I would say, Clay, today,

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Speaker 2: we have so much time to talk policy, so much

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Speaker 2: time to get into the next steps. And I know

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Speaker 2: the left is nuts. We understand. This isn't the end

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Speaker 2: of the movie where everyone lives happily ever after or something.

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Speaker 2: Now the work begins right now. It's time well now

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Speaker 2: meaning really January, but transition leading up to January as well.

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Speaker 2: But you really should take this day. I remember, Clay,

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Speaker 2: I was speaking to my audience back back when I

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Speaker 2: was solo in twenty nineteen in that summer and for

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Speaker 2: a few days, I said, guys, honestly, it just doesn't

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Speaker 2: get better than this, So just go do something you've

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Speaker 2: always wanted to do spend the weekend or spend some

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Speaker 2: time with your family.

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Speaker 3: Go.

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Speaker 2: You know, Trump is kicking ass, the economy is amazing,

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Speaker 2: Enjoy it, and really, I think today, allow yourself to

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Speaker 2: feel that joy. Allow yourself to take a moment. All

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Speaker 2: of yeah, who voted. I know a lot of you

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Speaker 2: knocked on doors, a lot of you spread the word,

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Speaker 2: a lot of you just support the world of conservatism.

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Speaker 2: Listening to the show, buying from our sponsors, listening to

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Speaker 2: other shows, friends of ours, in this business. You are

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Speaker 2: a part of what really feels like a counter revolution

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Speaker 2: in the best sense. Right, it felt a bit like

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Speaker 2: But in sense this was a part of that too.

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Speaker 2: The Biden administration was judged and found wanting in all respects,

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Speaker 2: including the divisiveness the vaccine mandate. And so today is

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Speaker 2: victory celebration day. It is spiked the football day. All

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Speaker 2: of you should feel so proud. I will say, we

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Speaker 2: had been telling you that this was coming. We got

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Speaker 2: why aren't you talking about the cheat and why are

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Speaker 2: you so overconfident? Well, we were right this time. Everybody

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Speaker 2: called it, called it, called it, and we were right

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Speaker 2: because of all of you, because of what you decided

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Speaker 2: of all of us. And even the psycholibs are going

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Speaker 3: It's just going to make America better. Stock market opened

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Speaker 3: But even if you're a left winger, you are making

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Speaker 3: economic sense and Kamala didn't. And I think it's a

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Speaker 3: come in with him. A couple of things. Look, the

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Speaker 2: This is so important, and we will get into some

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Speaker 2: of the data. Fascinating stuff. I mean, New Jersey Democrats

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Speaker 2: But Trump's a Florida guy too, is family or Florida

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Speaker 2: so great to see. But Clay, the fact that the

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Speaker 2: Trump won. Everybody knows it. There's no way around it.

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Speaker 2: They have to accept it. And you know, I know

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Speaker 2: But that's what we needed here. And I know it's

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Speaker 2: not a mandate by the numbers, and I don't even

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Speaker 2: a non contested election. This is an election that one

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Speaker 2: I'm so proud of some of those senators. I know

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Speaker 2: And we we were hoping and I saw at one point,

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Speaker 2: I mean it was. This is also a moment to

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Speaker 2: the Democrats played really dirty there. They held onto that

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Speaker 3: Harry, it's two points right now in Nevada. And I

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Speaker 3: and McCormick is gonna win. We're sitting at least fifty

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Speaker 3: three Senate seats for Republicans. That's big. Maybe we get

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Speaker 2: And I would also say this for takeaways from the situation. Unquestionably,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is a superhuman force of political nature, and

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Speaker 2: I mean just everything and taking the bullet and standing

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Speaker 2: should just be so commended. They thought they were going

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Speaker 2: even at the ballot box, before he could even get there.

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Speaker 2: And and his you said it, his comeback is the

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Speaker 2: biggest political comeback, the most amazing political comeback, so I

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Speaker 2: like it. And the other part of this that I love,

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Speaker 2: if I can clay that it's just so good to

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Speaker 2: see the legacy Democrat media. They're on very They're on

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Speaker 2: very different kind of behavior today because they know they

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Speaker 2: all locked arms, they all they went all in to

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Speaker 2: he's a Nazi, he's.

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Speaker 3: We've got now a guy who has been on with

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Speaker 5: He won.

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Speaker 4: Some counties did move left. It wasn't many. There were

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Speaker 4: Right now, they're saying the black vote was about sixteen

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Speaker 4: percent Republican. I checked it a little while ago, and

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Speaker 4: thisman vote was about forty three, forty four percent hispantic

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Speaker 4: for sorry Republican. That's a tremendous, tremendous difference right now,

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Speaker 4: and obviously in certain areas it's much more. I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: be surprised if, like you know, in Texas and in Florida,

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Speaker 4: Trump probably one on a nismatic vote.

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Speaker 3: A couple of data points I want to hit you with.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious which one stand out the most to you.

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Speaker 3: Trump wins Florida by thirteen, Texas by fourteen, and Seltzer,

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Speaker 3: who said, oh, Iowa is going to go to Kamala

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Speaker 3: by three, actually ends up Iowa thirteen to Trump, and

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Speaker 3: New Jersey fifty one forty seven when we started the show.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's moved very much. Since those

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Speaker 3: numbers are all pretty staggering in many different ways. What

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Speaker 3: stands out to you about those raw numbers? They are

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Speaker 3: on a state basis, Okay, so Iowa.

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Speaker 4: First of all, Seltzer said that the reason Iowa's competitive

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Speaker 4: was because only one in four women over the age

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Speaker 4: of sixty five, which by the way, all seniors in

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Speaker 4: Iowa are white. So only one in four white seniors

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Speaker 4: women seniors were voting for Trump. Three and four, we're

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Speaker 4: voting for Kamala, and only half of white and the

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Speaker 4: men that was seniors and women, well, three and four

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Speaker 4: were supporting Kama. She said, half of senior citizen men

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Speaker 4: who are white were supporting Kamala. I don't know about you,

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Speaker 4: but I know a lot of white older seniors and

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Speaker 4: random sample size that was not true, and they were

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Speaker 4: not moving, and that would require them to move thirty points. Basically,

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Speaker 4: every Fox News reviewer became a Rachel maddlviewer in a.

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Speaker 5: Matter of a month.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, Ryan also in a state that

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Speaker 3: disliked Kamala Harris so much that she dropped out before

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Speaker 3: they could vote.

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Speaker 2: In the twenty twenty Democrat prime.

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Speaker 4: It is utterly ridiculous, ridiculous. Then you go to the

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Speaker 4: New Jersey numbers and what's interesting is not only is

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Speaker 4: there extreme growth in the ethnic white communities, and by

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Speaker 4: the way, he flipped Morris County, New Jersey, which is

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Speaker 4: a very very Jewish part of New Jersey, but then

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Speaker 4: he makes in rows around Union and Newark, these are

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Speaker 4: more Democratic areas. There was a congressional district New Jersey

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Speaker 4: is jerrymandered beyond belief where Republicans really can't win another

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Speaker 4: House seat if they tried. But there was one House seat.

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Speaker 4: This was a Biden plus twenty sixth seat in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 4: and the Republican was trailing I think by three or

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Speaker 4: four points in it. That's a tremendous explosion around Pasaya

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Speaker 4: County all the way and east, very Hispanic, a lot

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Speaker 4: of Asians, very very very ethnically diverse, and absolutely repulsed by,

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Speaker 4: you know, the Democratic brand. I'm going to give you

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Speaker 4: a totally different thing. Besides Texas and Florida which were

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Speaker 4: also which I referenced with flan you know what state

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Speaker 4: had a huge explosion for Republicans Vermont, Vermont blue burning

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Speaker 4: satins Vermont. The Republican governor, who is a liberal one.

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Speaker 4: The Republican lieutenant governor flipped the seat from Democrat to Republican.

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Speaker 4: Because they're voted, they're registered independently of each other, the

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Speaker 4: governor and lieutenant governor, so they won lieutenant governorship. They

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Speaker 4: won five state Senate seats. They won eighteen state House seats.

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Speaker 4: It's the most Vermont legislator has been Republican since two

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Speaker 4: thousand and two. It is the and this is this

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Speaker 4: is Bernie Sanders home base. I'll use other thing. Tim

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Speaker 4: Waltz's home district flips Republican. Tim Walt's lost. I think

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Speaker 4: he lost the state House in Minnesota. Democrats lost the

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Speaker 4: state House in Michigan, in Pennsylvania, they lost a super

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Speaker 4: majority in Nevada, they lost a super majority in the

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Speaker 4: state legislator in New York, in the New York State Senate,

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Speaker 4: and they lost the state House in Pennsylvania. I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I just mentioned that, but in Michigan they lost. It

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Speaker 4: was a obliteration across the board. It was a lot

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Speaker 4: of It was extremely bad branding of the Democratic Party

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Speaker 4: to sit there and only say fascism J six abortion,

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Speaker 4: fascism J six abortion because unless you live in an

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Speaker 4: extra very few states, honestly very few states, relative abortion

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Speaker 4: is not a major issue because it is the law

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Speaker 4: of the land. So it completely takes you out of that.

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Speaker 4: And also they're dealing with huge surges of migrants, huge

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Speaker 4: amount of migrant welfare, fraud, crime, housing costs, living standards.

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Speaker 4: It makes the focus so much much heavier on Commo's

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Speaker 4: weak points that it's even.

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Speaker 2: Worse Ryan or Dusky everybody. Ryan, I just got We

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Speaker 2: gotta tip our hat to you, buddy. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: a reason we have you on the show as often

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Speaker 2: as you do as we do. It's because you know

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Speaker 2: the data. Your analysis is spot on and and and

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Speaker 2: you're a humble guy. But I'll say it, and Clay

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Speaker 2: will say it. You nailed this election. Your predictions as

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Speaker 2: to where it was going and to what the polls,

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Speaker 2: what polls were legit, what what polls weren't. And you know,

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Speaker 2: my wife last night, Clay, Carrie, she's like I kept

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Speaker 2: telling her, she's I've been saying Trump's gonna win for

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Speaker 2: months and she knows that. Every time she asked me,

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Speaker 2: she asked me every day, are you sure he's gonna win, honey.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm sure he's gonna win, Honey, you sure.

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Speaker 2: Last night she goes, I'm freaking out, text Ryan if

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Speaker 2: he says he's gonna win too, And I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 2: well I say so, and Ryan says so, and it

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Speaker 2: and it came out to be true. You also got

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you right, you got a new subscriber, seriously

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Speaker 2: to your substack from my wife last night, Carrie. So oh,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna write. I'm gonna write the five P says

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Speaker 4: that you should know about this election by substect today

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Speaker 4: for tomorrow. And now we'll go to highlight and in

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Speaker 4: a month or two. I know you like a lot

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Speaker 4: of data, Clay, but give it a month or two

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Speaker 4: and we're going to have the full lay of the

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Speaker 4: land and we'll know a lot.

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Speaker 3: I love looking at the data. Ryan, You've killed it. Congrats.

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Speaker 3: Get some sleep.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to get some sleep tonight. That's the plan.

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Speaker 2: And go subscribe to Ryan substack. Go to substack, look

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Speaker 2: up National Populace Newsletter. Just type in Gurdusky. He's probably

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Speaker 2: the only one on substack Ryan Gerdusky and subject yeah

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Speaker 2: and go subscribe Ryan, great workman, and please go. You know,

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Speaker 2: I know you're tired to, Like Clay, go celebrate, Go

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Speaker 2: enjoy yourself. You've earned it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in

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Speaker 1: Politics with Clay Travis end Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: We begin the.

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Speaker 3: Hour with our good friend Julie Kelly, who has been

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Speaker 3: on top of jan six, Jack Smith, everything else for

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Speaker 3: years now coming on to talk about all of this

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Speaker 3: with us. But I just want to start with this, Julie,

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Speaker 3: how much did you enjoy Tuesday night? Was there a

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Speaker 3: moment that for you was like the apex of happiness?

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Speaker 3: I know we've joked before about what having a camera

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Speaker 3: on Jack Smith would have been like. I hope you

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Speaker 3: thought about that idea at least once as all the

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Speaker 3: returns were coming in. Do you still just kind of

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Speaker 3: find yourself walking around with a smile on your face?

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Speaker 6: Totally? Clay and I did repost our conversation from a

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Speaker 6: few months ago when you said, wouldn't you love to

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Speaker 6: have a camera in the room when Trump won a

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Speaker 6: camera on Jack Smith? I retweeted that because it's so true.

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Speaker 6: You know, the first people I thought about when I

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Speaker 6: woke up Tuesday, or of course the January sixth er

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Speaker 6: is knowing how much a Trump victory would mean to them.

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Speaker 6: And then you know, as the night progressed and the

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Speaker 6: returns were coming in and looking so positive, and Jay

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Speaker 6: Sixer started to text me and I think it was

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Speaker 6: just like later that at night, realizing Wow, the good

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Speaker 6: the good guys one. I think it was like one

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Speaker 6: in one o'clock or so, the good guys one. The

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Speaker 6: bad guys lost are going to face repercussions, which of

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Speaker 6: course I will happily work on. And then most importantly,

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Speaker 6: the burden lifted off of J six ers, knowing that

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Speaker 6: there's hope for them, relief around the corner, and exoneration

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Speaker 6: at the very least, claim buss their own government not

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Speaker 6: referring to them as domestic terrorists anymore.

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Speaker 2: Julie, can you just for everybody you know we've had

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Speaker 2: you on a lot to talk about the J six defendants,

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Speaker 2: give a sense, because you know the media and a

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Speaker 2: lot of the media that I'm talking about those who

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Speaker 2: listen to Ustin who are part of our extended radio

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Speaker 2: family here, don't pay attention to But for a lot

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Speaker 2: of Americans, what they've been told is there's all this

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Speaker 2: violence and only the most serious people have faced any

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Speaker 2: you know, serious crimes. I have any consequests from January sixth.

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Speaker 2: Some of the people who are who have or are

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Speaker 2: serving prison sentences on the lower end in terms of offenses,

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Speaker 2: include what like, tell us some of those stories so

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Speaker 2: people can really know this is what was done to

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Speaker 2: them and this is how unjust it was.

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Speaker 6: Right, So let's start with the misdemeanors. There are four

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Speaker 6: common misdemeanors at the government that this DOJ has brought

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Speaker 6: against J six ers for the very first time. Early

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Speaker 6: on the Chief Judge Beryl Howld that this shameless Trump hater,

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Speaker 6: she overthought Special Council Robert Muller's probe and then ran

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Speaker 6: the courthouse. During the early two years of the JA

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Speaker 6: sixth prosecution, she openly set in court we never deal

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Speaker 6: with Class B misdemeanors in this courthouse. But that's exactly

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Speaker 6: what they've been doing. So they are more than I

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Speaker 6: think seven hundred defendants only had this miss before misdemeanors

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Speaker 6: applied to them. And this is parading in the Capitol.

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Speaker 6: This is being on restricted grounds where Secret Service protectee

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Speaker 6: is disorder the conduct on capital grounds. Just being there,

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Speaker 6: you even have engaged in disorderly conducts. So there are

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Speaker 6: four common misdemeanors. Nonetheless, these people were tormented by the

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Speaker 6: to the maximum number of months, which is twelve months

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Speaker 6: for these misdemeanors, and they were thrown in federal prison

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Speaker 6: for this. So that to me is the lowest caning

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Speaker 6: fruit that I think is something that the President can

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Speaker 6: sign up on day one, is immediate pardons for all

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Speaker 6: of them, the misdemunit cases. And you'll get into trickier

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Speaker 6: areas well as you know, the Supreme Court, and we've

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Speaker 6: talked about this. The Supreme Court overturned how this DOJ

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Speaker 6: unlawfully applied fifteen twelve c to obstruction of an official proceeding,

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Speaker 6: which was the post run tampering with evidence and documents

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Speaker 6: that you also used for the very first time in

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Speaker 6: with that felony. So that has been overturned. Many defendants

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Speaker 6: have gone to court seeking to have that conviction, whether

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Speaker 6: they pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial, to have

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Speaker 6: those convictions vacated. So all of those individuals should easily

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Speaker 6: be pardoned in the existing any existing indictment strapped. Then

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Speaker 6: you get into trickier areas assault on police. Right, there

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Speaker 6: are a handful of those cases that really need you

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Speaker 6: closely examined where there really was violence involved. But for

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Speaker 6: the most part, even those charged and convicted with assaulting

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Speaker 6: or interfering with police, that's the statute assault in her

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Speaker 6: fearing inhibiting law enforcement. This could be to someone who

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Speaker 6: yelled at a police officer, who touched a riot shield,

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Speaker 6: who threw a water bottle towards police lines. Now we

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Speaker 6: see things like that all the time in protests. Correct,

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Speaker 6: We thought certainly throughout twenty twenty in Washington, DC, but

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Speaker 6: they were never charged with this federal statute. So we

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Speaker 6: need to look more closely. I think that will be

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Speaker 6: the stickier area, the grayer area as to where pardons

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Speaker 6: should apply. Even the most egregious cases, their sentences should

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Speaker 6: be commuted. You have a man Julian Cater, who has

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Speaker 6: been in prison since March of twenty twenty one his arrest.

651
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Speaker 6: He was one of two of the fall guys for

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Speaker 6: the death of Brian's sickness, claiming that because he was

653
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Speaker 6: hit with pepper spray that's how he died of a stroke.

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Speaker 6: The next day, Julian Cater arrested on an airplane in

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Speaker 6: New Jersey March of twenty twenty one, accused of spraying

656
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Speaker 6: Brian Sicnic with a small thing of pepper spray. Elanguished

657
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Speaker 6: in the DC dulas awaiting trial. He was tormented for

658
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Speaker 6: almost two years before he accepted a previal. Then he

659
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Speaker 6: was sentenced to seven years in federal prison. That is,

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Speaker 6: there is no comparison to that in any jurisdiction, let

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Speaker 6: alone in Washington DC's. Those are the sort of cases

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Speaker 6: that to me, are ripe for commuting sentences and freeing

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Speaker 6: these individuals when there is no case comparison anywhere to

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Speaker 6: the sentences that they've received.

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Speaker 3: Julie, I'm stunned, and we're talking to Julie Kelly, who's

666
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Speaker 3: been covering the jan sixth cases, the Jack Smith prosecutions,

667
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Speaker 3: the lawfair against Trump in general with us now for years.

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Speaker 3: I'm stunned, even knowing how political this all was that

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Speaker 3: the day after Trump won, the DOJ basically said, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Jack Smith, you're done. Did that surprise you? What is

671
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Speaker 3: the latest on these cases? And where should it go

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Speaker 3: from here? Let me ask you like broad question, if

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Speaker 3: you know, if Jim Jordan asked you, hey, what should

674
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Speaker 3: we do about these Jack Smith prosecutions? What would you suggest?

675
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Speaker 3: Republicans coming into power should do? Investigate the investigator? Where

676
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Speaker 3: should this go? What's the latest? Are you surprised by

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Speaker 3: how quickly all of this house of cards collapse?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 6: I am so. Number one, the Florida Documents case. As

680
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Speaker 6: you know, Judge Cannon dismissed that indictment in July based

681
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Speaker 6: on the unconstitutional appointment of Jack Smith. The DOJ and

682
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Speaker 6: Jack Smith have that now on appeal, So what we're

683
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Speaker 6: expecting next is that Jack Smith will pull back that appeal,

684
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Speaker 6: drop their appeals. Judge Cannon's order then stands, which is

685
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Speaker 6: very interesting as to how it will affect future special counsels.

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Speaker 6: Number two, I will admit I'm surprised the Jack Smith

687
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Speaker 6: and the DOJ is dropping the Washington case so quickly

688
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 6: because Judge Chutton on October twenty eighth, a few days

689
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Speaker 6: before the election set deadlines in that case into mid

690
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Speaker 6: and late December. She wanted to drag this out until

691
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 6: the very last minute, even if Trump won. I actually

692
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Speaker 6: thought that Jack Smith would at least continue to pursue

693
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Speaker 6: those deadlines. Those motions have one more court heerance right

694
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Speaker 6: to drag out all this evidence before Dutch Chuck hints,

695
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Speaker 6: I really thought that they were going to hold that

696
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Speaker 6: to the last minute even if Donald Trump won. That

697
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Speaker 6: is not the case. So it does look like this

698
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 6: laws there really has backfired. Now you saw Jim Jordan

699
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Speaker 6: today a letter came out from the House Judiciary Committee.

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Speaker 6: He instructed Jack Smith to preserve all of his records, documents,

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Speaker 6: evidence in both cases, communications with other parties. Of course,

702
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Speaker 6: this is something I've been pushing for months. I've got

703
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Speaker 6: a piece on my substat you classified with Rutelli that

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Speaker 6: spells out the prosecutetorial abuse and misconduct in both of

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Speaker 6: those cases, especially the Florida case, where you guys know,

706
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Speaker 6: I was at that courthouse numerous times, covering first him

707
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Speaker 6: what was happening there and the revelations about you know,

708
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Speaker 6: the mar Lago armed grades where agents violated even the

709
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Speaker 6: very broad terms of that search warrant. There are accusations

710
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Speaker 6: of doctoring, hampering, and even destroying evidence in that case,

711
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 6: threatening witnesses. One of the co defendants, a close aid

712
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 6: personal aid of Donald Trump, who Jay Bratt, who was

713
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Speaker 6: one of Jacksmith's top henchmen, tried to bully him and

714
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Speaker 6: threaten him and his attorneys into flipping and becoming a

715
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Speaker 6: government cooperator in that case. The misconduct and criminality in

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Speaker 6: the Special Council's office, not just Jack Smith, but his

717
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 6: prosecutors and some of his investigators is very evident from

718
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Speaker 6: the trial, from the precedings in both cases, and also guys.

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Speaker 6: As I was posting today, Jack Smith spent at least

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Speaker 6: fifty million dollars two years of this investigation, millions and

721
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Speaker 6: contracts undoubtedly awarded to his buddies in white white shoe

722
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Speaker 6: law firms, but also more than eleven million dollars in

723
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Speaker 6: salaries and benefits too, And this was just the first

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Speaker 6: fourteen months. By the way, this is probably topping twenty

725
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Speaker 6: million dollars just in salaries and benefits because he's way

726
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Speaker 6: behind in his his obligated required financial reporting all of

727
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Speaker 6: his expenses, including his personal protective details. Every single dollar

728
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Speaker 6: must be accounted for, because I want to see where

729
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Speaker 6: those contracts went and who those employees were, and how

730
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Speaker 6: they spent so much money and then at the end

731
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Speaker 6: came up empty handed.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Julie Kelly declassified as her substack if you

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Speaker 2: want to read her great analysis and support her work. Julie,

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Speaker 2: you're in contact with both the Trump side of this

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Speaker 2: equation and also lawyers and families of J six individuals.

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Speaker 2: Just what's it like for them to know that? Well?

737
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Speaker 2: How much do we know at this point? I mean

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Speaker 2: my understanding is we're just waiting for Trump to be

739
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Speaker 2: sworn in and then there will be commutations and pardons. Well,

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Speaker 2: what can you tell us about where this is going?

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Speaker 6: I could say just I was overwhelmed with text messages

742
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Speaker 6: from attorneys from J sixers and their loved ones, so

743
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Speaker 6: relieved and hopeful that Trump won. Now the hard work

744
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Speaker 6: really begins. So it's just, you know, putting together the pieces.

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Speaker 6: I really believe that President Trump is extremely devoted to

746
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Speaker 6: the part in commutation project. Whoever, his new Attorney General

747
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Speaker 6: will be particularly in asking Vcus attorney where all these

748
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Speaker 6: cases are litigated out of that individual must immediately on

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Speaker 6: January twenty. It's twenty twenty five. Shut down what the

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Speaker 6: Merritt Garland Lisa Monico Matthew Graves CJ refers to as

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Speaker 6: the Capital Siege Investigation. The entire unit must be shut

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Speaker 6: down on January twentieth. Any existing indictments. You guys, they

753
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Speaker 6: arrested a man from Georgia on election day, a key

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Speaker 6: swing state. The FBI counter Terrorism task for arresting a

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Speaker 6: man for his participation in January sixth, that Capital Siege

756
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Speaker 6: Division must be shut down immediately and then address the

757
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 6: cases that have already been litigated, the convictions, the pree deals,

758
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Speaker 6: and those languishing in prison or awaiting sentencing. These judges,

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00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,959
Speaker 6: by the way, DC are still moving these cases forwards.

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Speaker 6: I heard from a J sixer the other day who

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Speaker 6: said his trial date has just been set for January ninth.

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Speaker 6: These judges are not giving this up because they will

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Speaker 6: have nothing else to do after January twentieth. You could

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Speaker 6: go to that court packet any day of the week.

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Speaker 6: Seventy five percent of the cases before those judges relate

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Speaker 6: to January sixth. I have no idea what they're going

767
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Speaker 6: to do after twentieth. I do have an idea though

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Speaker 6: some of them should be impeached, some of them should retire.

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Speaker 6: Quite frankly, the entire DAC federal court system should be

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Speaker 6: shut down after what they've done to these individuals, broke

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Speaker 6: the law, overturned by the Supreme Court, overturned in some

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Speaker 6: cases by the Appellate Court sentencing enhancements that did not

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Speaker 6: match the law, after the egregiousness conduct in that courthouse,

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Speaker 6: it should be completely shut down.

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Speaker 2: Julie Kelly, everybody, Julie, we appreciate, and I know the

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Speaker 2: j six defendants and their families greatly appreciate everything you've

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Speaker 2: done on this topic. And as we get more to

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Speaker 2: the action phase of this, where people will get the

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Speaker 2: clemency that they deserve, we will be talking you more

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Speaker 2: about it. Thanks so much for being here.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate you guys, and they do too. Thank you

782
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Speaker 6: so much for covering my work.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 2: We are headed down to the great state of Florida.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: We talked to a little bit ago. I think on

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Speaker 3: the first day of early voting in Florida. If I'm

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Speaker 3: not mistaken, Senator Rick Scott has won comfortably. Let's start here, Senator,

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Speaker 3: You've won every race by like one point that you've

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Speaker 3: ever been involved in, if I remember correctly, in your

792
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Speaker 3: entire political career, what was it like to win by

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Speaker 3: double digits. I mean, this is a new experience for you.

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Speaker 5: I think it was all to play in Buck show.

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Speaker 5: And I think his first day of early voting, I

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Speaker 5: mean Trump did, Joe, Rogan, Ida, Clay, and Buck and

797
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Speaker 5: I won. We got we got nearly six million votes.

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Speaker 5: We won by one point four million votes. So we

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Speaker 5: won in Miami Dade County. We won in by ten points.

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Speaker 5: We won in Austila. So Hispanics are Republicans. Yeah, love Florida.

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Speaker 5: La Florita is Roja. So I've been putting a lot

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Speaker 5: of effort into his fanic votes since I started running

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Speaker 5: twenty ten, and I gave people reason vote for me.

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Speaker 5: I said, guys, I want your kids like I want

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Speaker 5: my kids like my mom wanted me to have the

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Speaker 5: chance to live the dream of the country. I thought,

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00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 5: it's as simple as that. We all have our family,

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Speaker 5: we want them to have a chance. So I think

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Speaker 5: Florida is the center of the Republican Party, and I

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Speaker 5: think the rest of the country. I want to watch

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Speaker 5: what we're doing, because we could teach you a hell

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Speaker 5: of a lot about win elections as you.

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Speaker 2: Were campaigning and congrats, Senator on your reelection, as you

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Speaker 2: were campaigning in this state, my home state. Now, I'm

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Speaker 2: part of that Florida Revolution, that Florida miracle of people

816
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Speaker 2: who fled communism during COVID to try to find freedom

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Speaker 2: within this country. But specifically speaking to the Hispanic and

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Speaker 2: Latino population here, what was it that was motivating as

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Speaker 2: you see it, what looks to be about a ten

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Speaker 2: to fifteen point slide toward Trump in this election, you know,

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Speaker 2: extrapolating that out from what you found in Florida.

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Speaker 5: I think what's happened with Hispanics is that, you know,

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Speaker 5: I put a lot of effort into this Fang vote,

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Speaker 5: starting back in twenty ten, Trump put effort in the

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Speaker 5: Hispanic vote. What happened is Hispanics have looked and looked

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Speaker 5: around and said, who's better for my job, who's better

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Speaker 5: for my kids' education? You know, if you look nationwide,

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Speaker 5: almost ninety percent of Hispanics are fed up with the

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Speaker 5: public school system because they think that it's not helping

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Speaker 5: their kids get ahead. Hispanics want to live in a

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Speaker 5: safe community. And so what they figured out is that's

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Speaker 5: really the Republican issues, jobs, your kids, education, public safety.

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Speaker 5: So I think that's what's happened. But part of it

834
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Speaker 5: is show up, you know I did. I did about

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Speaker 5: twenty percent of my events while I was governor and

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Speaker 5: then and the Senate and in this you know, expanding

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Speaker 5: his spanning businesses, hispanning chambers, you know, so you know,

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Speaker 5: you know, you've got to meet a Spanio thass those doctors,

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Speaker 5: says finals and many importante part of me and the

840
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Speaker 5: other thing you do is help people when you should

841
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Speaker 5: when they were when the hurricane happened at Maria are

842
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Speaker 5: in then Puerto Rico Maria. In twenty seventeen, I opened

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Speaker 5: up relief centers in the Miami in Orlando Airport. I

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Speaker 5: waived license licenses. I gave Puerto Ricans in state tuition.

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Speaker 5: They came in and became teachers. Immediately, they became mainly

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Speaker 5: became a lot of different jobs that required licenses. The

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Speaker 5: adventually they had to get them. We got them into

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Speaker 5: our school system overnight. It's four and twenty five thousand

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Speaker 5: Puerto Ricans come through. And I think they're appreciative that

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Speaker 5: somebody gave a damn and we're the only state that

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Speaker 5: did it. So I think that's one of the reasons

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Speaker 5: that's I mean, I won Ostelo County, which is unheard of.

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Speaker 5: It's it's a majority Puerto Rican and it's because I

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00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 5: did my job. I mean, they're American citizens. We ought

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Speaker 5: to help them. So I think people vote what's good

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Speaker 5: for them.

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Speaker 3: Senat Rick Scott with us big winner on election night,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get to the next question, which is

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Speaker 3: about who should be Senate majority leader and how that's

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Speaker 3: going to play out. But I want to read a

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Speaker 3: statement that just came down from soon to be Senator

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Speaker 3: Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania and let you react on this.

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Speaker 3: Senator Scott. I'm not sure if you've seen this, but

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Speaker 3: they just said. The McCormick campaign released the following statement

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Speaker 3: on the outcome of the Senate race in Pennsylvania. McCormick

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Speaker 3: is up thirty six and seventy nine votes, with more

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Speaker 3: to come as Ruby red Cambria County is still outstanding

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Speaker 3: while votes continue to be counted. Any way you slice it,

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Speaker 3: Dave McCormick will be the next United States senator from Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 3: said Elizabeth Gregory McCormick, communications director. This is one of

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Speaker 3: the last races in the Senate still outstanding that will

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Speaker 3: get Republicans to at least fifty three. Okay, So with

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Speaker 3: that in mind, several Senate majority seats, it's not going

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Speaker 3: to be something where the hopefully the VP has to

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Speaker 3: break ties very often. Mitch McConnell is stepping down. Who,

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Speaker 3: in your mind, Senator Scott should be the next majority leader.

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Speaker 3: How do you see it playing out?

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Speaker 5: Well, I believe I'm going to be the next majority

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Speaker 5: leader because I believe what I've been talking about is

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Speaker 5: exactly what Republican senators want. I've been talking to my

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Speaker 5: republic colleagues, as you know, I ran against McConnell back

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Speaker 5: in twenty two and here's what they want. They want change,

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Speaker 5: they want to be part of the Trump mandate. They

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Speaker 5: want to be treated as equals. They wanted to have

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Speaker 5: a real agenda to get things done. They want to

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Speaker 5: be part of a team. They want they know we

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Speaker 5: need to work with the House. And so that's what

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Speaker 5: I've been talking about. It I've been talking about since

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Speaker 5: I rand against McConnell and and they know I'm a

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Speaker 5: business guy like Trump. They know I've got a great

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Speaker 5: relationship with Trump. They've got they know I have a

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Speaker 5: great relationship with the Speaker Mike Johnson. And here's what

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Speaker 5: business guys do we get results? How do we do it? Well?

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Speaker 5: We have a purpose, we build a team, we write

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Speaker 5: a plan, We measure ourselves constantly to get a result.

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Speaker 5: Guess what. That's what. That's what I talked to my

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Speaker 5: republant colleagues. They're frustrated. They want to get something done.

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Speaker 5: And the approaches the day, you know, the McConell, Schumer approaches.

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Speaker 5: You know, we don't get anything done. May I've been

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Speaker 5: up there six years. It's been a pain, and uh

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Speaker 5: but I mean I can't get them. I can't. You

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Speaker 5: can't get a vote on something. You can't, you know,

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Speaker 5: because we just all we do is nominations. And we

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Speaker 5: have problems. We've got almost thirty six trillion dollars with

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Speaker 5: a dead we got open border, we got high inflation,

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Speaker 5: we're not adding full time jobs. We got problems. So

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Speaker 5: this idea that but we're just going to come up

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Speaker 5: there and have lunch and do a couple of nominees.

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Speaker 5: Every week. That doesn't get it for most most most

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Speaker 5: of my colleagues, And so I think I'm going to

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Speaker 5: win because because this is what we all know we

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Speaker 5: have to do. Our country is in trouble. That's why

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Speaker 5: Trump won. He's got he's got a he's got a mandate,

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Speaker 5: and he knows. I think my colleagues know that all

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Speaker 5: have a plan to get Trump's nominations done. I'll have

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Speaker 5: a plan to get Trump's agenda done. I'll have a

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Speaker 5: plan to get the tax cuts done. I'll have you know,

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Speaker 5: I'll have a plan to get stuff done. So so

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm What I'm doing is basically responding to what

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Speaker 5: my colleagues want. So what I did is I went

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Speaker 5: around and talked to them. I I you know, I

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Speaker 5: went down and talked to them and said, what do

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Speaker 5: you want? How do you want how how do you

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Speaker 5: think this place ought to be run? And what would

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Speaker 5: be important to you? A leader is not a dictator.

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Speaker 5: A leader is organizes people to work together for a

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Speaker 5: better cost. So my job is to do just what.

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Speaker 5: I built the largest hospital company in the world. I

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Speaker 5: built a bunch of manufacturing companies. My way I did

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Speaker 5: that is I had a purpose and I worked. I

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Speaker 5: worked it every day, and I measured stuff to get

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Speaker 5: a result. And so that's what That's what my colleagues want,

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Speaker 5: and that's why I think I'm going to be the

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Speaker 5: I'll be the next I'm a majority leader. And it's

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Speaker 5: not for It's not for me, it's for them. As

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Speaker 5: for Trump's agenda, we're.

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Speaker 2: Speaking to Senator Scott in Florida, and Senator is assuming

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Speaker 2: you do become majority leader, and it certainly seems like

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Speaker 2: that's a very good, strong possibility. What you mentioned the economy,

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Speaker 2: you actually have private sector business experience. One thing the

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Speaker 2: American people I believe will benefit from dramatically in the

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Speaker 2: next iteration of the Trump administration is having people in

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Speaker 2: very senior roles, including the President himself, who understand how

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Speaker 2: business works and understand how to build wealth and prosperity

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Speaker 2: on a broad scale. What would you want to see done?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what is something that as Senate majority leader

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Speaker 2: you could point to concrete? I mean you mentioned tax cuts,

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Speaker 2: what kind of tax cuts? We talk about energy? What

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Speaker 2: should be done on the legislative side, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: know some of it is legislating and some of it

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Speaker 2: is deregulating, but what is top of the agenda. I mean,

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Speaker 2: give us some concretes.

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Speaker 5: So here's what. So when I was in business, my

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Speaker 5: biggest frustration was not my competition. My biggest frustration was

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Speaker 5: anything other than government because it was just like a

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Speaker 5: black hole. You couldn't get an answer. They had stupid rules.

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Speaker 5: So when I was governor, I promised seven hundred thousand jobs.

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Speaker 5: Right it was run in twenty ten. Florida had a

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Speaker 5: bad economy at the time. I got one point seven

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Speaker 5: million private sector jobs. Less we druicize the government, and

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Speaker 5: how do we do it? Really? The truth is number

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Speaker 5: one was not the tax cuts. We did one hundred

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Speaker 5: tax cuts. Number one was the permitting times and the

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Speaker 5: radiatory environment. You could we have five water manage restricts

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Speaker 5: in Florida. It could takes few years to get something

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Speaker 5: that you were entitled to. I got that down in

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Speaker 5: most cases to less than a week. You were entitled

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Speaker 5: to a license, a professional license, which is still thinking

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Speaker 5: forty seven days. I got that down to a day.

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Speaker 5: So it's one it's permitting, two it's regulatory. And then

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Speaker 5: you say to yourself, what don't we need? You know,

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Speaker 5: what fees don't we need what taxes don't we need?

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Speaker 5: And you constantly say, how do we do that? Because

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Speaker 5: guess what, we're competing globally. So if if if nobody

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Speaker 5: walks into a business and says, I you know, I

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Speaker 5: heard it took you a long get that permit, so

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Speaker 5: I'll pay a little bit more. Or I heard that

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Speaker 5: you you've got to comply with more regulations. I'll pay

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Speaker 5: you more. Oh, I heard you've got some things with

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Speaker 5: local government, or your say government doesn't pay a little

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Speaker 5: bit more. So we've got to understand in business we

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Speaker 5: are competing globally. I want American jobs, and then we

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Speaker 5: and we can't. We've got to stop China's unfair trade practices.

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Speaker 5: We got to stop stop The most basic thing we

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Speaker 5: are to do with individuals is stop buying their craft,

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Speaker 5: Stop buying nothing, go go cold Turkey. They want to

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Speaker 5: destroy our way life. So the way I think about

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Speaker 5: it is is what I'm going to do is I'm

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Speaker 5: going to make sure we win the leaders race and

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Speaker 5: then I'm gonna sit down with Trump and Mike Johnson.

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Speaker 5: They say, would say, Okay, what do we want to

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Speaker 5: get done? Okay, let's write a plan and let's work

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Speaker 5: it every week and it's something that's not working. Change

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Speaker 5: and so but I know, I know that the types

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Speaker 5: of I like all tips scouts, But let's think about

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Speaker 5: the ones that have the biggest impact. It's the ones

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Speaker 5: that make us globally uncompetitive. That's the biggest taxes we

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Speaker 5: ought to be doing. And how do we get people

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Speaker 5: to invest in American businesses? Because if you want more

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Speaker 5: American jobs, you want more Americans to start their businesses.

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Speaker 5: If you want more American jobs, you want you want

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Speaker 5: people to build their plants in America. And so you say, okay, so,

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Speaker 5: which you know that's how I would That's how I

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Speaker 5: will think about it. But if the leader's job is

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Speaker 5: to take the best ideas and organize the Republicans to

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Speaker 5: come together with the best ideas, you can get enough

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Speaker 5: votes to pass the legislation. Because if you don't get

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Speaker 5: enough the votes to pass the legislation, you have great

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Speaker 5: ideas and nothing happens. The job of the leader is

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Speaker 5: to bring people together to get something accomplished.

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 3: Now, what's the time frame for the leadership decision? And

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Speaker 3: how many people do you expect will be running? Ultimately,

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Speaker 3: it looks like there's going to be fifty three of

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Speaker 3: y'all that sit down and make a decision about who

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Speaker 3: should be the majority leader. What's that process to look

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Speaker 3: like and what's the timeframe?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's by our bylaws, it is supposed to be

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Speaker 5: in January. But what they've been doing since McConnell's been around,

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Speaker 5: they've been rushing the vote. So the vote is now

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Speaker 5: going to be next Wednesday, which is really unfair to

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Speaker 5: our new members because you know, they don't know how

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Speaker 5: the process works, and you know, and for a lot

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Speaker 5: of it's like me, I've been going to a campaign.

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Speaker 5: It was my campaign season. So anyway, they're scheduling the

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Speaker 5: vote for next Wednesday. So what I've got to do

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Speaker 5: to win is I'll have to get a majority of

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Speaker 5: fifty three. So I'll get to get twenty seven votes.

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Speaker 5: And so I'm talking to my colleagues about how I

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Speaker 5: my job is, how do I help you get what

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Speaker 5: you came up here accomplished. Everybody's got everybody's got a

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Speaker 5: why they're there, right, I got my why. My why

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Speaker 5: is I want every kid to live the dream I live. Right,

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Speaker 5: So everybody's out there why my job as leader will

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Speaker 5: be Okay, what's your why How do I get you?

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Speaker 5: How do I get you to get that accomplished? So

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Speaker 5: I'm so what I'm doing is I'm talking to my

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Speaker 5: colleagues about you know what, you know, how I can

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Speaker 5: how I can help them get what they want to

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Speaker 5: get accomplished. And and then you know, I do what

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Speaker 5: I do with my business life. I'm going to win,

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Speaker 5: and then I'm going to go do it and I'm

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Speaker 5: going to make all my My job is to make

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Speaker 5: all my colleagues really successful. Just like in business, if

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Speaker 5: all the people worked with me were really successful, I

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Speaker 5: probably did fine.

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Speaker 3: Senator Rick Scott big winner in the state of Florida

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Speaker 3: running for Senate Majority leader now with fifty three at

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Speaker 3: least Republicans going to join him in making that decision,

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Speaker 3: and it should be should be outstanding to see. Good luck, Senator,

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Speaker 3: congrats on the big win and we're happy to have

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Speaker 3: helped you get that landslide down in the free state

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Speaker 3: of Florida.

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Speaker 5: All right, thanks, having great day you We'll.

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Speaker 3: Do for sure, that's Senator Rick Scott in the mix

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Speaker 3: for Senate Majority Leader. We'll see how that plays out.

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Speaker 3: It's going to happen very soon. Replacing Mitch McConnell. You

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Speaker 3: heard his pitch there.

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