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Speaker 2: Ryan is on the phone today for a first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by Ella. So in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes we'll call her see if you tell

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Speaker 2: us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another

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Speaker 2: date the first Ryan, how long has it been since

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Speaker 2: you heard from Ella?

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Speaker 3: It's been It's just been a few days. But you know,

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Speaker 3: it was such a intin connection. I'm really baffled.

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Speaker 4: What was your last interaction?

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Speaker 3: Like, well, we I mean initially we we were just

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Speaker 3: you know, texting over Bumble the dating app, and but

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Speaker 3: but we we did go out. We went on a

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Speaker 3: We went on a first date to a nice restaurant,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think it could have gone any better.

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Speaker 4: Really, Okay, we'll tell us about the date.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we we went to the Italian place. We

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Speaker 3: were both u both pasta lovers, and we were just laughing, drinking.

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Speaker 3: We bonded over the fact that we're both really divorced

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Speaker 3: And she she told me she wanted to start a family,

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Speaker 3: and I told her I actually I'm already at dad,

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Speaker 3: and she took that. She was just like in she was.

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Speaker 3: She wanted to see pictures of my son and wanted

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Speaker 3: to hear stories. It was an incredible conversation after you know,

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Speaker 3: the check came and everything, and she didn't want it

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Speaker 3: to or we didn't want it to end, I guess.

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Speaker 3: So we went to the bar to you know, to

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Speaker 3: have a little coffee and just keep chatting. And you know,

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Speaker 3: we both had to get up the next morning and work,

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Speaker 3: so we made plans to meet up again. I thought

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Speaker 3: we could go on a bike ride, and she was

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Speaker 3: into that idea and said we you know, I'd text

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Speaker 3: her the next day, and I mean I thought that

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Speaker 3: second day was going to.

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Speaker 4: Happen for sure.

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Speaker 1: So you guys basically made plans for a second date

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Speaker 1: and it just never happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I haven't. She didn't respond back ever.

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Speaker 2: Did anything awkward at all happened on the date? Any

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Speaker 2: reason you can think of that you're getting ghosted.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like the one there's one thing where I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I guess I could have this might have been a

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Speaker 3: dumb thing to say when we switched from our you know,

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Speaker 3: our dinner table to the bar. The bartender came up

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Speaker 3: to us and he asked if me and my wife,

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Speaker 3: didn't correct him. I said, oh, you know, I thought

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Speaker 3: it was kind of cute. I thought, actually, my wife

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Speaker 3: and I were just going to have an express, so

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Speaker 3: it's not okay.

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Speaker 5: And she laughed too, and you know.

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Speaker 3: I I thought, okay, sweet, like she gets my sense

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Speaker 3: of humor and everything. And I went to the bathroom.

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Speaker 3: I came back, but she was if something happened. I

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Speaker 3: don't know, she maybe had time to think about it

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Speaker 3: or I offended her, you know. When I got back,

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Speaker 3: she seemed kind of anxious to leave little antsy and

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Speaker 3: we just, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, hugged good by.

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Speaker 3: I kissed her on the cheek, and I don't I guess,

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Speaker 3: I guess I put my foot in my mouth there.

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Speaker 4: Maybe if she laughed about it.

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Speaker 1: However, I could see if you're somebody that's freshly divorced

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Speaker 1: be joked, like, even if it's just joking, that's a

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Speaker 1: title that you gave up, and then to be like, ah,

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Speaker 4: It just kind of put her in her feels or something.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, that's tough. Have you reached out

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Speaker 4: to her then? Since?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the next day I texted about, you know,

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Speaker 3: for her. And you know, I didn't hear anything back,

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Speaker 3: and I figured, you know, I don't know, she busy

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Speaker 3: I texted, you know again the next day and yeah.

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Speaker 5: Just.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well we'll see if we can figure it

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Speaker 2: out for you. Then we'll play a song come Back,

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Speaker 2: and then call her and stef hotels why she's ghosting you,

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Speaker 2: and maybe get you another date.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that'd be great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well plays.

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Speaker 2: Song come Back, get your first day follow up next.

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Speaker 2: Right in the middle of the first day follow up

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Speaker 2: and if you're just joining us, Ryan is on the

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Speaker 2: to call her stuftelus why she's ghosting him, and maybe

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Speaker 2: get him another date. But before we do that, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: why don't you refresh our memory on your date with Ella.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. We went out to dinner Italian restaurant. We had

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Speaker 3: a great time. She loved the fact that I'm a

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Speaker 3: dad and she's she's divorced too, and you know, but

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Speaker 3: still wants to have a family. We we had coffee

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Speaker 3: at the bar after dinner, and I referred to it

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Speaker 3: as my wife as a joke, and then the vibe changed.

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Speaker 2: It was sacrifice tough when something like that happens off somewhere,

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Speaker 2: you're on a date and someone calls him your girlf

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Speaker 2: because you don't want to be like, yeah, they are,

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Speaker 2: but you also don't to be like whoa, no way,

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Speaker 2: don't even think that the other way, Like I would

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Speaker 2: never all right, well that would be way.

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Speaker 4: You ready for us to call her?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Please?

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Speaker 4: Okay, here we go? I may I speak to Ella? Please? Ella?

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Speaker 1: Hi?

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Speaker 4: How are you? My name is Jewbel. I'm calling from

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Speaker 4: a radio show called the Jewbill Show.

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Speaker 5: Hi.

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Speaker 4: Ella, I'm mean I'm here too.

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Speaker 5: Hi.

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm okay?

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Speaker 4: How are you good? Do you ever listen to the

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Speaker 4: show at all?

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Speaker 5: Uh? Not really?

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Speaker 4: Okay? Well, maybe do that from time to time. It'd

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Speaker 4: be cool.

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Speaker 2: Also, no pressure if you haven't, we do a segment

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Speaker 2: on our show.

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Speaker 4: It's called the First Date fall Up.

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Speaker 2: That's where if you go out on a date with

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Speaker 2: somebody and then end up ghosting them, that person can

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Speaker 2: email us to get you on the phone and ask

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Speaker 2: why you're ghosting them. So, oh my gosh, we got

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Speaker 2: an email about you.

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Speaker 4: You're kidding, No, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who would email us? I have an

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Speaker 2: idea you want to take a guess?

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Speaker 5: Is it Ryan?

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Speaker 4: Yes? It is Ryan. Hilarious emailed us.

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Speaker 2: We talked to him. He told us about your date.

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Speaker 2: He said he really liked you a lot, but he

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Speaker 2: doesn't know why you're ghosting him, and would you mind

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Speaker 2: telling us?

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Speaker 5: Oh, I feel really awkward about this. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 4: Okay, this is the same space.

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Speaker 5: Okay. I mean I thought he was great. We had

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Speaker 5: a great time. It was very sparky. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: don't know how much he told you. But so I'm

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Speaker 5: recently divorced and we do it having a great night.

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Speaker 5: And I guess what, I'm honest, Like, I got on

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Speaker 5: a picture of my ex with his new girlfriend. Oh,

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Speaker 5: and I guess I just got kind of in my

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Speaker 5: I thought I was. I should have handled those very differently,

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Speaker 5: but I don't know. I'm kind of new at this

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Speaker 5: and thought run away.

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Speaker 1: Your instinct started to run. I mean, yeah, that's hard.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot to process all at the same time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I feel bad. He seems like a nice guy.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we really did hit it off.

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Speaker 2: So you're ghosting because you saw a picture of your

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm ghosting because I think I'm like,

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Speaker 5: oh god, am I actually ready to be jumping back

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Speaker 5: out there? If this silly picture threw me off so hard?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, whether you're ready or not. I think those

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Speaker 1: kind of shocking.

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Speaker 4: No, like, jobble, don't you feel that way?

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Speaker 2: No, I never care. Oh, okay, I'm glad. Usually okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm like good, they've moved on.

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Speaker 1: Well, I understand and I feel the same way. But

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying is maybe that doesn't mean you're not ready,

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Speaker 1: It's just that you needed to rip the band aid off.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, maybe, I mean the phone was taken

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Speaker 5: by a friend of ours who she's meeting our old friends. Like,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, it just threw me.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it wasn't fair Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Well you can say that to Ryan if you want to,

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Speaker 2: because he's actually on the phone listening and wants to

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Speaker 2: talk to you.

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Speaker 5: Sure.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, Ella, I I uh, I don't care. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I totally get it that you were you were caught

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Speaker 5: Frankly, I'm sorry that was not the most mature way

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Speaker 5: to handle that. I did not mean to make your

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Speaker 5: same position. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I I totally I understand where you're coming from.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I mean, if.

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Speaker 5: We if we were able.

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Speaker 3: To like hang out again, like you you'd be welcome to,

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Speaker 3: you know, talk about this type of stuff, like we

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Speaker 3: can totally talk it out.

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Speaker 4: Really well, Ella, would you like to go out with Ryan?

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Speaker 4: Again on another date. We'll pay for it, I mean yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'd love to.

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Speaker 5: Amazing.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations, y got another date.

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Speaker 5: Yay, we can still do the bike ride.

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Speaker 3: And then we'll we'll we'll go to another restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Or not.

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Speaker 4: Juble's first date follow up