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Speaker 1: Straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Wednesday, July.

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Speaker 1: We are already in the middle of July, and you

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Speaker 1: know this is supposed to be the slow time in sports,

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Speaker 1: right you got as soon as you can sense the

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Speaker 1: MLB All Star Game is nearly upon us. You know

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Speaker 1: it's getting slow because that's when everything kind of shuts down. However,

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Speaker 1: thank goodness for the NBA, because Tuesday night we had

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Speaker 1: some juice late breaking news to fund stories Donovan Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: Remember who had reported after the Rudy Gobert trade that

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Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell did you azz? We're gonna build around him?

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Speaker 1: Not so much anymore. Apparently Utah is listening to teams

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Speaker 1: pitches for Donovan Mitchell. Will get to that. There is

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Speaker 1: some Jimmy g scuttle butt that's out there. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to. But I think we have to open with

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Speaker 1: everybody's favorite mal content. How about that mal content? That's

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Speaker 1: an s A T vocabulary word, I think, right Rob,

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Speaker 1: just to open the show, Kyrie Irving, Baby, Kyrie Irving,

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Speaker 1: the man who doesn't stop delivering. I mean, I just

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Speaker 1: gotta thank Kyrie. He goes to NBA Summer League. He

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Speaker 1: You know, he's probably burning some sage while he's out

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Speaker 1: there on the West Coast. I can't believe this. The

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Speaker 1: New York Posts had a fascinating story on Kyrie Irving

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Speaker 1: late Tuesday night. Kyrie Irving wants to be a Net

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Speaker 1: with or without Kevin Durant. Wow, he's committed. You hear

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Speaker 1: that Brooklyn Nets uh the billionaire owner. You hear that

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Speaker 1: attention Kyrie Irving. Quotes from someone close to Kyrie Irving. Right,

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Speaker 1: so this is Kyrie Irving doesn't really do interviews. But

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Speaker 1: according to The New York Post, a source close to

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving said he never asked for a trade. He

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Speaker 1: has every intention of playing for Brooklyn with or without

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Speaker 1: he has every intention of playing with the Brooklyn Nets.

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Speaker 1: Kadi decides he wants out, and now everybody is talking

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Speaker 1: about trading Kyrie. Right, Kyrie has not asked for a trade.

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Speaker 1: According to a source close to Kyrie Irving, now if

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Speaker 1: has not said he wants to trade. He opted in.

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Speaker 1: Kyrie opted in. You guys know what's happening here right,

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Speaker 1: This is very obvious. This is journalism one O one

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Speaker 1: the red carpet right after he opted in, or right

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Speaker 1: before he opted in, and Kyrie Irving was asked if

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Speaker 1: the question. It was I think the Nickelodeon Red Carpet,

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Speaker 1: rob is that what it was? It was the b

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Speaker 1: ET Awards. I'm sorry, b ET Awards. Yes, my my

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Speaker 1: think had seen the clip of Kyrie Irving. Anyways, I'm

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Speaker 1: Then he opts in. Okay, and at this point, you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody says Kyrie Irving, he's out of here. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be traded. What's the market for Kyrie because he's only

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Speaker 1: a one year left thirty six million? Is he even

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Speaker 1: going to show up? The only team that made sense

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Speaker 1: but the great movie American History X. I know you

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Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, I highly recommended. This is not

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Speaker 1: movies that are over like ten years old. But at

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Speaker 1: any rate, American History X is an incredible movie. I

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Speaker 1: highly recommend. And the star of the movie, Edward Norton,

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Speaker 1: He like stomps his mouth. He opens a guy's mouth

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Speaker 1: You've got you know, the Hispanic guys, the black guys,

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving put up a flag. I'm on the market.

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Speaker 1: Who wants me? Does anybody want to trade for me?

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Speaker 1: Because I didn't really want to opt in. I want

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Speaker 1: Irving was out there for about two weeks. One t

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Speaker 1: expressed interest the Los Angeles Lakers because they have Lebron

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Speaker 1: was all for Kyrie. A lot of people were like,

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Speaker 1: get us out of here bringing Kyrie. Lakers didn't trade

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Speaker 1: for him. I talked about the Genie Buss cryptic tweet.

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Speaker 1: It's all coming full circle, guys. Yeah, I know you

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Speaker 1: love this. The Lakers weren't gonna trade for Kyrie Irving.

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Speaker 1: According to Genie Buss, We're not nuking the team to

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Speaker 1: source close to him, now, says, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: rent Kyrie. Remember how the Raptors rented Kawhi, Leonard and

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Speaker 1: and win a title? Oh? Because he's crazy. Yeah that's real,

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Speaker 1: that's not that's not bashing him, and the facts speak

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Speaker 1: wanted to trade for him. So what does Kyrie Irving

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Speaker 1: do now? He says, so I want to be a Net.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play for them. What do you? I don't

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Speaker 1: care if Kevin Durant leaves, I'm staying here. Rob. This

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Speaker 1: imagine what they dealt with Steve Nash that locker room

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving is crazy and and it listen, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are crazy. I on some level, I'm crazy.

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Speaker 1: I know Rob has some levels of crazy. Everybody is crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, as an NBA player, as a leader,

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Speaker 1: That being said, nobody wanted Kyrie Irving. I am sticking

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Speaker 1: with my prediction from last week. The Nets will open

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Speaker 1: the season with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant on the

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Speaker 1: basketball court. Rob, do you still want Kyrie with the Lakers? Absolutely? Absolutely. Now, Look,

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Speaker 1: flash forward. Once he doesn't get that deal, he you know,

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Speaker 1: his name? Wit Whitfield? Christian Winfield? Yeah, well where where's he?

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Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, but usually the Kyrie spin

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Speaker 1: well you know what's fine? Cut you off, But you

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Speaker 1: know what's funny about you? Brought up Christian Is about

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Speaker 1: About a week later, Brian Lewis reports that it's more

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Speaker 1: is that he gets traded. Now. Obviously neither of those

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Speaker 1: and you know that that was basketball at his finest.

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Speaker 1: Not and then and then, I mean, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say things off you know on the air that

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Speaker 1: we're told to us off the air, but there's been

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Speaker 1: guys who have said that, you know, Steph Curry couldn't

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Speaker 1: play in that era, that was it. Charles Oakley would

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Speaker 1: dominate in today's NBA because he could shoot more than

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Speaker 1: people give him credit for. And it's like, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: think I think we've kind of jumped the shark. A

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Speaker 1: little bit, and then you have other guys like Scottie Pippen,

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Speaker 1: like Steve Kerr has said this, Uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think you're Jefferson's very public about it. Today's NBA players

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Speaker 1: say what you want about the style of play, the

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Speaker 1: layups and threes and that kind of stuff. No mid

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Speaker 1: range game. Their skill level, however, is better than anything

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Speaker 1: we've ever seen. Guys can do more things now than

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Speaker 1: they could ever before. The depth that you talked about.

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Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned earlier about how in today's this

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Speaker 1: upcoming season, the Western Conference might have, you know, ten

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Speaker 1: teams that have legitimate playoff expectations and five or six

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Speaker 1: of them in the West who think they can probably

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Speaker 1: win a championship, and that didn't exist back in the

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Speaker 1: nineties and the eighties and the early two thousand's. Today's

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Speaker 1: NBA players, to your point, you have to be able

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Speaker 1: to dribble a little bit. You absolutely have to be

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Speaker 1: able to shoot. And if you can't shoot, then you

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Speaker 1: better be elite. And I'm talking about just you gotta

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Speaker 1: be okay, you have to be an elite defender, an

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Speaker 1: elite shot blocker, an elite screener, whatever like. You have

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Speaker 1: to do something at an absurd level to be able

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Speaker 1: to be on the floor if you can't shoot in

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Speaker 1: today's NBA. And I'm just gonna go back to thousand ten,

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Speaker 1: which isn't even that. This isn't even the pipping era

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Speaker 1: that he's talking about. All right, two thousand ten NBA Finals,

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Speaker 1: Lakers Celtics. I know I'm a Laker fan, so I,

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Speaker 1: you know, probably glorify this championship more than it deserves,

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Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you. But if you just

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Speaker 1: look at some of the guys who got real minutes

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Speaker 1: in these finals. Okay, Shannon Brown, big fan of Shannon Brown.

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Speaker 1: He was a six two point guard who could not shoot,

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Speaker 1: but he could jump out of the gym. Luke Walton

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Speaker 1: was getting minutes. Luke Walton, as soon as he got

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Speaker 1: his contract from the Lakers, was basically known as Luke

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Speaker 1: Walton's contract because he couldn't do anything. He was unathletic,

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Speaker 1: couldn't score. He was a good pastor, that's about it.

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Speaker 1: Josh Powell, who I don't know how he was in

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Speaker 1: the n b A for a handful of seasons, was

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Speaker 1: a key member of the Lakers championship rotation. Josh Power Powell,

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Speaker 1: the former Stanford wing. No. Josh Powell from NCY State

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Speaker 1: was a power forward. He uh got into the NBA

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Speaker 1: and two two thousand five, twenty three and had like

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Speaker 1: an eight nine year NBA career or something like that,

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Speaker 1: and he was a key contributor on that Lakers roster

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Speaker 1: if you were, and then I don't even think this

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Speaker 1: last NBA Finals all that great considering you know that

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Speaker 1: most of the games we're not that close. Do any

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Speaker 1: of those guys get any minutes in this last NBA

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Speaker 1: Finals we saw with the Warriors in the Celtics. The Celtics,

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Speaker 1: the Celtics had to play six guys in Games five

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Speaker 1: and six because the depth they could Payton Pitcher could

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Speaker 1: not play because he was getting Honty defensively. You know,

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Speaker 1: Derrick White, he could play defense, but he could not

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Speaker 1: shoot at all towards the end of that series and

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Speaker 1: they were playing four on five. Draymond Green, We've well

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Speaker 1: documented he's been a very marginal offensive player at best

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Speaker 1: this past season in these playoffs, but he could defend

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Speaker 1: at a super high level. And it's like you have

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Speaker 1: to be able to do more than one thing in

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Speaker 1: today's NBA. If you're gonna be successful. And I think

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Speaker 1: Scottie Pippen hit the nail right on the head. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Pippen would actually be immensely valuable right now because he

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Speaker 1: could shoot, play, defend the opponent's best player, you know,

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Speaker 1: like he he could be like an Andrew Wiggins, Jalen Brown,

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Speaker 1: that type guy in today's NBA. And it's weird. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know we mentioned him earlier, but just off the

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Speaker 1: top of your head, Rob Jordan's Pool. You look back

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Speaker 1: at some of these late uh, some of these early

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Speaker 1: nineties all NBA teams, and it's like, you know, Mitch

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Speaker 1: Richland was a smooth, good player, right, Reggie Miller was

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Speaker 1: a good player. I just watched Jordan Pool, and I

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Speaker 1: think the scott this guy is honestly, I know he

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Speaker 1: can't defend anybody, but it's not like Reggie Miller could defend.

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Speaker 1: I just look at that. I'm like Jordan Pool, like,

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Speaker 1: it's over under one point five all NBA t for

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Speaker 1: Jordan Pool in his career. Oh now, projecting forward, he's

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Speaker 1: like twenty over. I would agree. I'm just telling you

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Speaker 1: this guy he played, he played like two months, put

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Speaker 1: up thirty points a game, he's just an electric scoring machine. Now,

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Speaker 1: obviously he's being healthy and all that matters, but we're

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Speaker 1: talking about six four can handle can finish it the rim.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty three years old. He was the first round pick.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this guy was in the G League a

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Speaker 1: year ago. Now he's an NBA champ and he's looking

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Speaker 1: at getting paid. I just think the NBA is so

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Speaker 1: much deeper now. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports

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Speaker 1: I wanted to quickly pivot with the podcast here. Geez,

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Speaker 1: we did thirty minutes on the NBA, just like that,

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Speaker 1: like it was nothing. Um, I want to do do NFL.

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Speaker 1: And no, we're not talking about the nikkil Harry trade.

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Speaker 1: Patriots dumping another one of their bust first round picks.

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Speaker 1: And at some point we might have to bring on

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Speaker 1: like an Albert Brier or someone from the Boston area

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Speaker 1: to just put a clown suit on Belichick for all

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Speaker 1: his bad draft picks. My gosh, nikkil Harry, what a whiff,

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Speaker 1: unbelievably bad pick. They shipped them out of town. But

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Speaker 1: that's not the topic. The topic is a gentleman by

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Speaker 1: the name of Jimmy Garoppolo, who I like a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm higher on Jimmy g that a lot

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Speaker 1: of people. And it sounds like he's gonna start throwing

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Speaker 1: memory had the surgery after the season later this month,

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Speaker 1: and I said on Coward Show last week that the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers made the most sense to me. Right, they

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Speaker 1: drafted a quarterback, they got a great defense, they don't

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Speaker 1: love Traubinsky, and somebody smart reached out to me a

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Speaker 1: couple of days later. It was like, Jay, you really

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Speaker 1: want a team to look at this. Somebody in the

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Speaker 1: NFL take a look. Cleveland Browns, they ship Baker out

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Speaker 1: of town. Jacoby bri said, is their guy. Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: is making about twenty million dollars. The Nine are not

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Speaker 1: gonna make him the most expensive backup in the league.

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Speaker 1: That's what he would be, the most expensive in backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback in NFL history. Apparently they're not gonna cut him.

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Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns remember how they structured Watson's deal because

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Speaker 1: they knew the suspension was coming. He's making peanuts this year,

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Speaker 1: So when the NFL suspensive and takes his paychecks. They're

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Speaker 1: taking peanuts. Kind of dirty move, but smart really. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you gotta applaud both sides on that one. The Browns

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Speaker 1: have forty eight million dollars in cap space if they

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Speaker 1: believe they have a Super Bowl contender. And I gotta

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Speaker 1: be honest, Rob, you look at that depth chart, it's

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Speaker 1: really strong. The Browns have a very good team, and

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Speaker 1: the quarterback upgrade to Watson is huge. But you're not

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Speaker 1: making no Super Bowl if you have to only have

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Speaker 1: to Watson for eight games. So what if they rented

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Speaker 1: Jimmy G the Cleveland Browns for the first eight games?

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Speaker 1: You take them on pay a salary. You know, Jimmy

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Speaker 1: GE's a winner. His I don't have the record in

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Speaker 1: front of me what he is with Shanahan. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: not with Shanahan with the forty nin nurs, But Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo with the forty niners has been a winner. That's

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Speaker 1: all he does. He just comes through. And I know

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Speaker 1: the defense has been good and they had Deebo Samuel

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Guys, I get that. I am, like

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm a Jimmy G. Guy. I look at

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Speaker 1: that Cleveland brown team with Garoppolo under center for the

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Speaker 1: first aid games, and I think, are they the best

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Speaker 1: team in the division. I certainly think with Jimmy G

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Speaker 1: and Watson, they're better than the Bengals. The Bengals, by

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Speaker 1: the way, I've been breaking down the schedules because I

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Speaker 1: get nerdy in the offseason to get ready for gambling

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. The Cincinnati Bengals have maybe the toughest

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Speaker 1: second half schedule in the league. They will create her.

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Speaker 1: They might start good, but they will create her. Cleveland

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Speaker 1: chub and Kareem Hunt, Amari Cooper on the outside, um

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Speaker 1: Donovan Peoples, Jones is okay, and joeku is your is

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Speaker 1: a good tighten. The offensive line is top six in

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Speaker 1: the league. The defense led by Garrett and Clowney. The

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Speaker 1: secondary is awesome. They were good last year. The problem

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Speaker 1: was at quarterback. I'm just saying there's a case if

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Speaker 1: the Browns add Jimmy Garoppolo to the mix and they

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Speaker 1: don't have Watson for eight or ten games, and Jimmy

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Speaker 1: G can get you seven and three even if you

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Speaker 1: want to go six and four. Jacoby Brisette is not

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Speaker 1: going six and four. If Jimmy G can get you

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Speaker 1: seven and three, maybe eight and two, and then you

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Speaker 1: bring in Deshaun Watson there at that point, I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's a controversy. Watson is clearly superior. But look

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Speaker 1: at the early schedule Carolina Jets, Steelers, Falcons, Folks, Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo can feast on those teams. There's a good chance

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Speaker 1: they go four and o to start the season. Then

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Speaker 1: it gets tougher. Jacoby Brissette is not beating the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: Belichick will dominate him the Ravens, and then the Bengals

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Speaker 1: heading into the bye week, and then you get you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe Watson for the final eight games. Rob I think

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Speaker 1: it's a slam dunk. Given the Browns have forty eight

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Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space, Jimmy G is expensive. There's

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Speaker 1: really nobody else out there. I think this is a

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Speaker 1: win win for both sides. You make some very salient points.

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Speaker 1: Even if I'm not the biggest Jimmy G fan, I

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Speaker 1: think everything that you said is accurate. My only pushback, though,

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Speaker 1: would be I don't given what they already had to

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Speaker 1: give up to get Deshaun Watson in the first place,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it would be a good business decision

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Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns two trade anything for another quarterback

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Speaker 1: that's only gonna be there in this scenario. You know what,

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Speaker 1: eight games, ten games. I think that even though Jimmy

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Speaker 1: g would be a huge upgrade over Brissette, and I

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Speaker 1: think that to your point, he can absolutely win them

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Speaker 1: games once your pot committed like that, with the Shaun

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Speaker 1: Watson and all these deal and and what they give

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Speaker 1: to get him. And now we're hearing reports that you know,

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Speaker 1: the decision gonna come by in the next week or so,

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Speaker 1: we can have that. One side is even suggesting zero games.

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Speaker 1: So that tells me that the whole I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna be the case. But inside

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Speaker 1: saying zero, one side is saying indefinite. To your point,

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Speaker 1: that sounds like six or eight might be the sweet spot.

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Speaker 1: And if Cleveland gets just six or eight games from

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, I think that Jacoby Brissette can keep you

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Speaker 1: around five hundred and that still should be enough for

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Speaker 1: Cleveland to be a playoff contender in the second half

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Speaker 1: of the season. With Deaunt interesting, we know the division's

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Speaker 1: tough Ravens are gonna be very good. We talked about

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson earlier on the Pod this week. Bengals will

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Speaker 1: be good, but I don't think they will be as

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Speaker 1: super as they were last year. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: what to make of the Steelers given they have no quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I don't trust Robisky at all. I wouldn't trust him

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Speaker 1: to pick up by mail if I were on vacation.

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Speaker 1: I do do love that defense, but ultimately Trabisky has

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Speaker 1: gotta make some plays and he will not deliver for you.

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Speaker 1: So I if I'm Cleveland, I go out and get

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Speaker 1: Jimmy g I think the Browns kind of they become

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Speaker 1: one of those top four teams in the a f C.

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Speaker 1: And Rob I don't listen. Your Raiders are not going

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Speaker 1: to make the top four in my list. Kansas City

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Speaker 1: obviously there, Buffalo clearly there. I love the Chargers, you

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Speaker 1: know that. I like Denver. A f C is just loaded.

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Speaker 1: If you're Cleveland, I think you gotta make a move

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Speaker 1: for it at any rate. Um, I'll be fun to

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Speaker 1: watch NFL starting to get on the mind. I'm going

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Speaker 1: team by team doing a lot of stuff for Fox Sports.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy me on the Herd later today, I'll see you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow