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Speaker 2: things Colts. To start the show here in a few minutes,

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Speaker 2: Colts head coach Shane Steiken will join me for our

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Speaker 2: following that, Colts radio analyst Rick vent Turrey and Joe

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Speaker 2: Wrights will join me to break down how the Colts

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Speaker 2: wore down and came up short unfortunately in overtime against

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Speaker 2: Kansas City on Sunday. We want your social media questions

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Speaker 2: or so. But we begin with the events that led

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Speaker 2: to the colts third loss of the season. Obviously, on

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Speaker 2: both sides of the ball, there were issues that guided

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Speaker 2: the Colts to defeat on Sunday. They started the game

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Speaker 2: very well. The Colts led fourteen to nine at halftime

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Speaker 2: and scored touchdowns on two of their first three possessions

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Speaker 2: of the game. The first score was set up by

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Speaker 2: a laat two Latsu interception on a play where he

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Speaker 2: tipped a pass from Patrick Mahomes inside the ten yard

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Speaker 2: line at the line of scrimmage and then caught the

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Speaker 2: batted ball and returned it down to the three yard

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Speaker 2: line for his third interception of the season, and two

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Speaker 2: plays later, the Colts were on the board with a

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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Junior touchdown, his seventh of the season and

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Speaker 2: a new career high for him. The Chiefs didn't score

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Speaker 2: at all in the first quarter, and the Colts allowed

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Speaker 2: three second quarter field goal drives to Kansas City, who

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Speaker 2: struggled to score in the red zone all day long.

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Speaker 2: The Colts would kick two field goals in the third quarter,

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Speaker 2: and they would lead by two scores and eleven points

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Speaker 2: heading into the fourth quarter, and that's when things really

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Speaker 2: went south for the Colts. The Chiefs dominated the game

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Speaker 2: and the clock once the third quarter expired. In the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter, the Colts had three possessions, all with the lead,

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Speaker 2: and they went three and out all three times, and

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Speaker 2: that opened the door for the Chiefs to drive down

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Speaker 2: Kansas City might win the game with a touchdown down

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Speaker 2: to tie the game at twenty. In overtime, the Colts

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Speaker 2: The Colts ran just twelve offensive plays in the fourth

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Speaker 2: no points in four punts. None of their last four

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Speaker 2: desperately needed to do by gaining first downs. The Colts

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Speaker 2: a time of possession in the fourth quarter in overtime combined,

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Speaker 2: and the Chiefs outscored the Colts fourteen to zero in

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Speaker 2: six to eighteen in that span. The Colts didn't gain

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Speaker 2: He finished with just fifty eight rushing yards and generated

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Speaker 2: as Kansas City running back Kareem Hunt went over one

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Speaker 2: and Indianapolis was out gained by two hundred in thirty

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen season. The Chiefs ran a whopping ninety one plays.

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Speaker 3: We're on the.

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Speaker 2: Field for forty two minutes and thirty five seconds for

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Speaker 2: a game in club history. So the Colts now said

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Speaker 2: at eight and three, they've now lost two of their

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Speaker 2: last three games, but they're still six and two in

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Speaker 2: the AFC. But they've lost their last two conference games,

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Speaker 2: and now they get ready for a major game this

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Speaker 2: weekend following Thanksgiving against the Houston Texans, who are all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden six and five winners of three in

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Speaker 2: a row, and they're back in the mix in the

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Speaker 2: AFC South with six games to play. All right, reminder,

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Speaker 2: coming up on segment two, Rick Venturion, Joe Wrights, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna join me. We're gonna attack the game film from

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Speaker 2: Kansas City. But joining us now is the head coach

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Speaker 2: of the Indianapolis Colts, Shane Steichen, who has settled in

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Speaker 2: here on a Monday night in the studio. And again

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Speaker 2: this portion of the show brought to you by Citizens

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Speaker 2: Energy Group and coach, you've certainly experienced the highs and

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Speaker 2: lows of playing overtime games, and each of the last

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Speaker 2: two times out. Let's start first with the offense in

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Speaker 2: the second half. Is the Colts into the game going

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Speaker 2: three and out four straight times? What made it so

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Speaker 2: hard to move the ball against the Chiefs late in

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, first and foremost, give credit to the Chiefs,

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Speaker 5: you know, for what they're doing defensively, But we just

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Speaker 5: got to, you know, we got to execute at a

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Speaker 5: high level. I got to do a better job calling

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Speaker 5: things in certain situations that give our guys the best opportunity,

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Speaker 5: you know, to have those three and outs there at

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Speaker 5: the end the game, it's going to be hard to win,

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Speaker 5: you know. I thought our defense did a great job

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Speaker 5: getting the two takeaways, stopping all the reds, you know,

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Speaker 5: the red zone stops one for six right there, and yeah,

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Speaker 5: holding those guys a twenty points. We just got to

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Speaker 5: we got to score more than you know, twenty in

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Speaker 5: that situation. Obviously, we got to finish the game the

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: And then at the end of the game, when you

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Speaker 2: the Colts defense, they only gave up nine points, all

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Speaker 2: But late in the game, they were on the field

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Speaker 2: for over seventeen minutes in the fourth quarter, and over time,

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Speaker 2: they saw ninety total snaps by the Chiefs for the

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Speaker 2: entire game. I don't know if this is a fair question,

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Speaker 2: but how much did the war of attrition hit the

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean being out there for you know, ninety something

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Speaker 4: But our I thought, our guys battled.

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Speaker 5: Like crazy through those you know, ninety plays, and like

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Speaker 5: I said, to hold those guys.

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Speaker 4: That you know, twenty points there.

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Speaker 5: And the regulation is huge, and the red zone stops

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Speaker 5: and the takeaways like I mentioned earlier, were big, and obviously,

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Speaker 5: you know, at the end of the game, they had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, again, the last four drives went the way that

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Speaker 2: it did, and unfortunately none of them lasted more than

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Speaker 2: of possession. That put the defense back on the field

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Speaker 2: very quickly. How much did just the lack of complimentary

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Speaker 2: all timer and Patrick Mahomes, all they need is a chance,

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Speaker 2: and they certainly took advantage of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. You know, we got obviously the first three

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Speaker 4: quarters were solved. With that fourth quarter. We got to

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Speaker 4: be better. We all got to be better.

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Speaker 5: I got to be better in those situations, especially with

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Speaker 5: the lead there, and you know, maintaining drives and you know,

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Speaker 5: we got to convert on some of those the third

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Speaker 5: and ones and some of those other things there, and

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Speaker 5: and just little things to clean up, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean to keep those drives going, you know, so

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Speaker 5: we can finish out games.

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Speaker 2: Now, speaking of things to clean up, eleven penalties, how

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Speaker 2: much did those factor into the game? And then what

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Speaker 2: kind of needs to be stressed and cleaned up when

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Speaker 2: it comes to playing better discipline football in the last

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Speaker 2: six games, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, we got to control the control balls.

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Speaker 5: None of our guys want to commit penalties, you know,

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Speaker 5: and we got to clean those things up. You know,

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Speaker 5: we had some face max penalties you.

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Speaker 4: Know that hurt us a little bit.

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Speaker 5: And there's some other playings obviously we had a rough

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Speaker 5: so just being smart in those situations and having great

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Speaker 5: fundamentals and technique. That's really what those penalties come down to.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: The false starts obviously, that's focus. We got to lock

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Speaker 5: in and focus there, especially in the noise on that

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Speaker 5: first drive we had, you know, two of those we

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Speaker 5: had a legal formation, we had a false start there,

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Speaker 5: and so just locking in on those things and cleaning

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to get you into trouble,

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Speaker 2: I really don't, but when it comes to roughing the passer,

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Speaker 2: I feel sorry for some of these defensive line guys, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean Grover Stewart.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what else.

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Speaker 2: He's supposed to do in that situation, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a tough one there because he's he's throwing

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Speaker 5: the ball and he's moving forward there and he hit

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Speaker 5: you know. Obviously, you know, the officials got to make

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Speaker 2: All Right, two guys to single out, then we'll get

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Speaker 4: It was impressive, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Let's take a few questions from the fans to

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Speaker 2: Oliver coach. Did you think Kansas City's ability to stop

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Speaker 2: the run in the third quarter factored into your decision

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Speaker 4: Thought, you know, credit to Kansas City. I thought they

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Speaker 3: Right, Carl.

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Speaker 2: Did you think pressures on Jones picked up as the

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Speaker 2: All right, this is coming from Rick coach. Do you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, obviously you always look back on those things,

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Speaker 2: Lastly, from Gavin, are there any schematic things we did

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Speaker 5: Stroud, Yeah, we'll look through that this week and see what,

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Speaker 2: A couple of questions of close out here. First up,

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Speaker 2: it's Thanksgiving week. Okay, how does Thanksgiving with a holiday

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Speaker 5: Our preparation will stay the same. Obviously, Thanksgiving is a

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Speaker 5: Thursday morning, you know, go through our process Thursday morning

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Speaker 2: And for you, Shane Steichen, how much do you enjoy Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: And if you don't mind sharing, what are some of

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Speaker 5: I enjoy you know, the Thanksgiving meals. I love a

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Speaker 5: So it'll be good to be around the family and

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Speaker 2: Lastly, then the Texans, boy, oh boy, their defense is

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Speaker 2: They've won three in a row. When you turn on

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Speaker 5: I think they do a great job of flying around.

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Speaker 5: fewest amount of points giving up. So we're looking forward

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Speaker 5: to the challenge. It'll be great to be back home

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Speaker 5: in Lucas Oil Stadem you know for a division opponent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, first time at home in five weeks.

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Speaker 4: That's right, It's crazy. It'll be great to be back

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Speaker 2: Should be a playoff like atmosphere on a Saturday or so,

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Speaker 2: I should say a Sunday in this case, post Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: Shane Stiking with US Colts Round Table Live. Coach, always

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Speaker 2: appreciate your time, have a good week of preparation and

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Speaker 2: happy Thanksgiving coming up on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: All right, thanks you too.

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Speaker 2: I mean this is kind of a running joke now

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no doubt, Matt. You go back to the Minnesota

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Speaker 7: then something kind of happens at the end. And that

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Speaker 7: was certainly the case yesterday when you know, the Colts

442
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Speaker 7: have a twenty to nine lead, you have the football

443
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Speaker 7: early in the fourth quarter, and then our offense just

444
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Speaker 7: sputtered and could not muster anything, you know, those last

445
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Speaker 7: four drives of the game. So yeah, bottom line of

446
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Speaker 7: that story is, coach Venturrey, we need you in the booth,

447
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Speaker 7: back and excited, you'll be back there for Houston to

448
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Speaker 7: rectify the ship.

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Speaker 6: I don't think I have anything to do with it,

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Speaker 6: but hopefully obviously this one sets up so huge coming

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Speaker 6: up this week.

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Speaker 3: No question about it.

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Speaker 2: Certainly a lot to get into tonight with Rick and Joe.

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Speaker 2: We've got you the rest of the way again until

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Speaker 2: six thirty this evening. Coming up on segment three, we're

456
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Speaker 2: gonna get into a segment we.

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Speaker 3: Call buying or Keep Trying.

458
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Speaker 2: I've got some statements for the guys regarding the Colts

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Speaker 2: in terms of where they're at, and we'll discuss if

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Speaker 2: there's truth to those comments or if they're claims that

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Speaker 2: just lack some substance and need some explanation. And then

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Speaker 2: coming up in segment four, we're taking your social media

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Speaker 2: questions on the mail bag with the hashtag Colts round Table.

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Speaker 2: That's the best way to reach us later on tonight.

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Speaker 2: But on this segment, we always let Rick and Joe

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Speaker 2: comment on their initial reactions, and there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: them from the game and a overtime loss to the

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. We always call it tale of the tape.

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Speaker 7: Well, Baby raising hell today, Okay, let's let it go

470
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Speaker 7: foot bang bang, player, bang bank, keep.

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Speaker 1: The hammer down, keep talking to one another minute, clean

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Speaker 1: it up.

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Speaker 4: That's all.

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Speaker 3: Get ready, get ready? Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Colts are now eight and three after the loss

476
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Speaker 2: to the Chiefs in ot The Colts led by as

477
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Speaker 2: many as eleven heading into the fourth quarter twenty to nine,

478
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Speaker 2: but they couldn't close the deal. Out scored fourteen to

479
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Speaker 2: nothing to end the game. The Chiefs ball controlled the

480
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Speaker 2: Colts to death after the third quarter. The Colts defense

481
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Speaker 2: forced the Chiefs to kick a game tying field goal

482
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Speaker 2: in the final play of regulation, but the Colts ended

483
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Speaker 2: the game with four straight three and outs on offense

484
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Speaker 2: like we've talked about, and the Chiefs kicked the field

485
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Speaker 2: goal on their loan drive in overtime to seal the win.

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Speaker 2: So Joe writes, I'm gonna pass the baton to you.

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Speaker 2: Feel free to start us off here. What's your tail

488
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Speaker 2: of the tape on the overtime loss for the Colts

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Speaker 2: in Kansas City.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think when you go back to the game,

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Speaker 7: I mean I think that, you know, the tape kind

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Speaker 7: of was indicted of what I saw alive with my eyes,

493
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Speaker 7: just in terms of, you know, the Colts had a

494
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Speaker 7: really good game plan. They came out, they did what

495
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Speaker 7: they needed to do. You know, you had the lead

496
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Speaker 7: at halftime, you get the turnover, you're up twenty to nine.

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Speaker 7: Your defense, I think, is really playing well. I mean,

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Speaker 7: when you think high level, Matt, that you hold the

499
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Speaker 7: Chiefs to one to five in the red zone. Patrick

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Speaker 7: Mahomes does not have a touchdown, I mean, you kind

501
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Speaker 7: of did your job and to hold them on you know,

502
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Speaker 7: the eleven drives they had to twenty three total points,

503
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Speaker 7: including getting the two turnovers. We just weren't able to

504
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Speaker 7: muster anything offensively. And I felt like in real time,

505
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Speaker 7: Matt and we kept talking about, hey, the Chiefs are

506
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Speaker 7: getting desperate, So what are they gonna do. They're gonna

507
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Speaker 7: start coming downhill, and coming downhill means blitzing your linebackers

508
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Speaker 7: on run plays, trying to hit Taylor behind the line

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Speaker 7: of scrimmage, which they did I think over half his carries.

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Speaker 7: You know, he was met behind the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 7: on that initial contact. And then they were just going

512
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Speaker 7: to play really really sticky man coverage. They were gonna

513
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Speaker 7: hold you, they were going to grab you. They were

514
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Speaker 7: gonna make the refs make a deciding call, right there,

515
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Speaker 7: and we weren't able to get any separation in the

516
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Speaker 7: pass game. We never made them pay, so to speak,

517
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Speaker 7: when they went really aggressive and cover zero, and all

518
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Speaker 7: we needed was one or two of those completions to

519
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Speaker 7: get a couple first downs and do it. But you know,

520
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Speaker 7: if your offense put keeps putting your defense out on

521
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Speaker 7: the field like they did, our defense just wore down.

522
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Speaker 7: And you know, when you think about the defense on

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Speaker 7: the field for ninety one snaps, when you throw in

524
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Speaker 7: the penalties, you know, close to one hundred plays on

525
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Speaker 7: defense against Patrick Mahomes, against those receivers, that's just a tough,

526
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Speaker 7: tough hill to climb. I just feel like we eventually

527
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Speaker 7: wore down. You know, Kansas City's time of possession in

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Speaker 7: the fourth quarter in overtime close to eighteen minutes compared

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Speaker 7: to just five for the Colts. So it was unfortunate

530
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Speaker 7: because I felt like we were trying to hang on

531
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Speaker 7: and hang on, and you know, ultimately Kansas City made

532
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Speaker 7: the plays when they needed to, and it was the

533
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Speaker 7: guys that you know, Coach and I we talked about beforehand,

534
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Speaker 7: especially Rice. You know, Rice getting loose on some of

535
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Speaker 7: those over routes and you got to give Kansas any

536
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Speaker 7: credit to at the end of the day, this was

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Speaker 7: a game that they had to win. They were a

538
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Speaker 7: very desperate team. It was a playoff type atmosphere. It

539
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Speaker 7: was for our players. It was good for them to

540
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Speaker 7: experience that. But you sit back here on Monday night

541
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Speaker 7: and you think, kind of that would it, could have,

542
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Speaker 7: should have? And I think for me, the feeling leaving

543
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Speaker 7: the game is one of disappointment because you felt like

544
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Speaker 7: you had that football game one. But also it's easier

545
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Speaker 7: for players and coaches, I think, to move on because

546
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Speaker 7: you have your process, you watch the tape, you do

547
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Speaker 7: the corrections. What they've already done today, they're already watching

548
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Speaker 7: film on Houston. We got to remind ourselves. I think

549
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Speaker 7: this is really for me from the fan perspective, it's

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Speaker 7: just one to seventeen, and it's one of seventeen against

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Speaker 7: a team that has a three time MVP and has

552
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Speaker 7: been the AFC Championship Game seven times, and that very

553
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Speaker 7: realistically you may see again down the road in January

554
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Speaker 7: where we can say, okay, now we're going to give

555
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Speaker 7: you our best shot. But I say that it's just

556
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Speaker 7: one of seventeen because now this game kind of turning

557
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Speaker 7: the page forward. We'll talk about it later in the show.

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Speaker 7: It's just a mat gnanimous importance on Sunday in terms

559
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Speaker 7: of the red hot Houston Texans coming in here for

560
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Speaker 7: our first of two division games.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think this is a really bitter pill to

562
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Speaker 6: swallow because one the magnitude of the game, which we

563
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Speaker 6: knew going in, and the other thing is we really

564
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Speaker 6: had the champions on the ropes for three quarters. There's

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Speaker 6: no doubt about it. We were in control at twenty

566
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Speaker 6: to nine. But in the end, NFL games come down

567
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Speaker 6: really to the fourth quarter, week in and week out,

568
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Speaker 6: and it really comes down to how you finish. And

569
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Speaker 6: really the Chiefs totally dominated the fourth quarter. Plus the

570
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Speaker 6: offense got stuffed four straight three and outs. We've talked

571
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Speaker 6: about that. The defense gaves up drives from the first

572
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Speaker 6: in ninety eight first and ninety two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 6: six yards. And as far as being tired, I used

574
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Speaker 6: to tell my guys, if you don't want to be tired,

575
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Speaker 6: just stop them and get off the field. And then

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Speaker 6: in the end the Chiefs closed, you know, with the

577
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Speaker 6: final fourteen points. So you know, I think basically from

578
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Speaker 6: the third quarter on. Basically, we got out coached and

579
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Speaker 6: we got outplayed, period, and that's really a shame because

580
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Speaker 6: this is definitely one that we could have and should have.

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Speaker 6: In my opinion, one, I don't think this is the

582
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Speaker 6: Chiefs that we know. I think the Colts had their moments.

583
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Speaker 6: We were sharp offensively, even though we were really limited

584
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Speaker 6: to only twenty plays in the first half. Our red

585
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 6: zone defense is the thing that we survived on, you know,

586
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Speaker 6: holding them five times in the red zone. Otherwise it's

587
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Speaker 6: a blowout. Two huge turnovers, the lat to play was

588
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Speaker 6: really terrific, and Zyre's stripped down there going in was huge,

589
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Speaker 6: you know. But with the game on the line, when

590
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 6: the game was on the line in the fourth quarter,

591
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Speaker 6: they're stars. Their stars came to play and they did

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Speaker 6: the job. Mahomes, hunt Rice, they dominated to get the day.

593
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Speaker 6: And Spagnola, who I thought did a great job and

594
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Speaker 6: honestly is the model to play against us. He brought

595
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Speaker 6: the heat all day both run and pass, and played

596
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Speaker 6: sticky coverage with it. And I thought Jones, even though

597
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Speaker 6: he didn't have the statistical day, he affected us in critical,

598
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 6: critical situations again, you know, when it was really necessary.

599
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Speaker 6: Their coaching staff in their and their stars found a

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Speaker 6: way to do it. I think the most alarming thing

601
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Speaker 6: is that in the last three weeks in in two

602
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Speaker 6: out of the three games, the two losses, basically JT

603
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Speaker 6: has been held to forty five into fifty eight. And

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Speaker 6: it's alarming because obviously that becomes the formulent going forward.

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Speaker 6: You stop him, you press our receivers, pressure and cut

606
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Speaker 6: the pocket on Danny and basically that's the formula. So

607
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Speaker 6: we have to get that figured out. We've got to

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Speaker 6: make sure that we keep JT alive. Time and possession

609
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Speaker 6: kills you in a game like this, because I feel

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Speaker 6: like we lost our way in continuity. You know, when

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Speaker 6: you're getting the ball and you've only got twenty plays

612
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 6: the other team has forty, all of a sudden you

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Speaker 6: start pressing a little bit when you don't really need to,

614
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Speaker 6: but it'll force you to lose your way. So again,

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Speaker 6: all this really does is Joe's right, absolutely right. It's

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Speaker 6: just one of seventeen. It's one round. But what it

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Speaker 6: does is it take away. It takes away your wiggle

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Speaker 6: room and now it sets up momentous game This Sunday,

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Speaker 6: I said, going in Saturday, my theme was in a

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Speaker 6: pregame was that we were going to have to earn this,

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Speaker 6: that the back seven was going to be really tough

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Speaker 6: because we were going to play three top teams counting

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Speaker 6: Kansas City, and we're going to have and we're going

624
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Speaker 6: to have three tough division games coming up. So you know,

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Speaker 6: there it is. It's right in front of us, Houston

626
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Speaker 6: Jacksonville right back to back in those two division games.

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Speaker 6: So again you got to put it behind us, learn

628
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Speaker 6: from it again, fix what we got to fix. And

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Speaker 6: we can't let somebody take JT out of the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the reality of it here right going into

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Speaker 2: week number thirteen, you've got Colts, Texans, and Jaguars all

632
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Speaker 2: still in control of their own destiny when it comes

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Speaker 2: to the AFC South. All right, that's the tale of

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Speaker 2: the tape with Rick Venturrey and Joe Wrights their reactions

635
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Speaker 2: from watching the game film from sundays overtime unfortunate loss

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Speaker 2: to the Chiefs that drops the Colts record down to

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Speaker 2: Matt Taylor. Join again by Rick Venturi and Joe writes

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Speaker 2: with you until six thirty tonight, leading into Pacer pregame.

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Speaker 2: On the last segment, we looked at the film on

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Speaker 2: the tail of the tape. Now it's time for a

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Speaker 2: segment we call buying or keep trying. We're gonna look

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Speaker 2: at some statements and see if there's truth to them

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Speaker 2: or if they're just empty claims. After the colts third

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Speaker 2: loss of the season. So the first one, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go right to it and toss it to Rick finn

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Speaker 2: Turrey here. So Rick, the statement is as follows, the

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Speaker 2: Colts are not ready to win close games on the

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Speaker 2: road in tough environments like they did or ran into yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I should say against the Kansas City Chiefs. Are you

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Speaker 2: buying or do we need to keep trying?

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Speaker 3: On that statement?

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Speaker 6: No, I think you got to keep trying. I don't

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Speaker 6: think there's enough in the sample. You know, we haven't

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Speaker 6: played a ton of close games. Pittsburgh certainly was at

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Speaker 6: Tennessee before that, and so really in the last two

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Speaker 6: weeks it's fifty to fifty. I mean, we want to

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Speaker 6: do very very close game. We pulled it out with

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Speaker 6: a minute in forty six seconds in Berlin, so you know,

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Speaker 6: to me, we won that one and then we lost one,

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Speaker 6: and you know, Mahomes is one of one, he's a unicorn.

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Speaker 6: It's not impossible to lose a game to Mahomes in

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Speaker 6: the fourth quarter. So I don't I'm not buying that

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Speaker 6: that that's a fact. I think we just keep crying

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Speaker 6: and we see how we do the rest of the way.

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Speaker 3: All right, Joe Wrights, what do you think? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: For me, when you think about the Colts, you know,

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Speaker 7: five road games plus Berlin, but the true road games,

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Speaker 7: you know, two have been blowouts, dominating performance by us,

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Speaker 7: but the other three have all been close losses. So

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Speaker 7: I do think, you know, you got to get over

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Speaker 7: that hump in a tight game in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 7: win it on the road in one of those hostile environments,

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Speaker 7: and we're gonna get chances, right because you're next three

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Speaker 7: on the road. All legitimate teams are you think about Houston,

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Speaker 7: Jacksonville and Seattle to wind down the season. But for

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Speaker 7: the Colts to be the team they want to be,

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Speaker 7: you've got to get into those situations, hostile environments, and

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Speaker 7: you got to come away with a win on the scoreboard.

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Speaker 3: All right, I like it right there?

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Speaker 2: Buying or keep trying Here on ninety three five and

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Speaker 2: one oh seven five the Fan, This is Colts around

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Speaker 2: Table Live. All right, another water cooler conversation going around

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Speaker 2: town today. And we heard Shane Stike and talking about

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Speaker 2: this on the first segment when we had them in

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Speaker 2: studio here. How about this one, Joe writes, the Colts

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Speaker 2: abandoned the running game in the fourth quarter in overtime

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Speaker 2: too quickly, buying or keep trying right there?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I'm gonna keep trying on that. I

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Speaker 7: don't know that they abandoned it too quickly, Matt because

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Speaker 7: it wasn't necessarily effective. And with Kansas City and all

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Speaker 7: the run blitz as they were doing, they had extra

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Speaker 7: numbers in the box. Guys, we couldn't account for. You know,

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Speaker 7: Taylor was hit behind the line of scrimmage on what

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Speaker 7: sixty percent of his runs, yeah, that he had yesterday.

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Speaker 7: And so you go back and you say, okay, well

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Speaker 7: it's third and one, and we run that third and one,

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Speaker 7: played a duel in for fifty yards and nobody's complaining

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Speaker 7: about that. And then you know the tough one that

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Speaker 7: was the end of the game, when it was that

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Speaker 7: third and one and we needed a yard and we

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Speaker 7: weren't able to get it, you know, and they had

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Speaker 7: the run through on the linebackers there. But to me,

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Speaker 7: that's a that's a keep trying, just we just didn't

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Speaker 7: have the snaps. We weren't in rhythm. Only had twelve

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Speaker 7: thirteen plays there combined in the fourth quarter in overtime.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I must keep trying as well. I mean, this

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Speaker 6: is the same guy that got two hundred and forty four,

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Speaker 6: you know, a week ago. I would only be critical

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Speaker 6: of one series, the series in the fourth quarter that

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Speaker 6: we started right at the fifty. Right around the fifty,

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Speaker 6: we ran an RPO pass and we threw two more.

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Speaker 6: I thought that was a situation where a short field

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Speaker 6: could have gotten us a field goal, where we did.

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Speaker 6: Forget about Jonathan in that sense. But Joe makes the point.

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Speaker 6: I mean our running game was totally ineffective. I mean

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Speaker 6: they were he was, he was pressuring from all over.

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Speaker 6: They were hitting the gaps, you know. On late in

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Speaker 6: the overtime, the third and one, Tranquill comes clean around

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Speaker 6: the horn there on a blitz on a run blitz,

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Speaker 6: and you know, it's hard to criticize when you're not

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Speaker 6: making a yard in real time. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 6: at the end of the day you look at the

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Speaker 6: statuet and you say, well, we should have given it

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Speaker 6: to him more. But in real time, there wasn't anything there.

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Speaker 6: To be honest with you, So I think we keep

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Speaker 6: trying on that.

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Speaker 3: But what do you think about that? Rick though?

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Speaker 2: I mean, how concerning is that? Like you mentioned, in

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Speaker 2: two of the last three games, both losses, Jonathan Taylor's

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Speaker 2: been held in check and specifically on Sunday when they

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Speaker 2: did a nice job of shutting down the run, they

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Speaker 2: also when the Colts had to pass Kansas City's pressure

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Speaker 2: impacted the game negatively for the Colts.

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Speaker 6: Well, there's no doubt, and I've been saying this in

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Speaker 6: every pregame, in every podcast, I can take Jonathan away.

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Speaker 6: If I commit enough people and enough pressure in there,

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Speaker 6: I can force you to beat me with other players

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Speaker 6: now here. To me, was our mistake is we kept

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Speaker 6: throwing it back inside and short. I guess maybe we

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Speaker 6: worried about the protection and they were playing sticky Manda

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Speaker 6: Man respect Nola's Achilles heel. Is this Matt lineup Pierce outside,

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Speaker 6: maybe even put Dold Doolan on the other side outside

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Speaker 6: the numbers, max protect and take a bunch of shots

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Speaker 6: outside the numbers on the corners who are one on

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Speaker 6: one all day. When he's lost playoff games, or he's

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Speaker 6: been stripped or he's been beaten, he gets beaten one

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Speaker 6: spot on the outside. And to me, we didn't take

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Speaker 6: one shot to Pierce much less, don't dooland I mean,

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Speaker 6: we didn't take one shot outside the numbers the whole game.

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Speaker 6: And to me, you're you're gonna have to or people

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Speaker 6: are going to put you in a bucket like that.

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Speaker 7: I think the coach is good point right there. You know,

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Speaker 7: even if you take a shot deep and it's a

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Speaker 7: fifty to fifty ball fifty yards down the field and

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Speaker 7: we don't get it, which Pierce is one of the

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Speaker 7: best in the NFL, what does that do? That puts

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Speaker 7: in the coordinators thought, That puts in all the cornerbacks,

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Speaker 7: you know, back of the mind that hey, they're going

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Speaker 7: to throw it deep on his this game. You know.

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Speaker 7: So sometimes even though those might not be a completion,

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Speaker 7: they can be effective in terms of just loosen up

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Speaker 7: the defense as they become and played us tighter and

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Speaker 7: tighter and tighter as the game went on.

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Speaker 2: All right, Rick Venturian, Joe writes right there, I'm Matt Taylor.

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Speaker 2: This is buying or keep trying. Let's keep the train moving, Joe,

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Speaker 2: stay right there. The Colts defense without DeForest Buckner, Joe,

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Speaker 2: it just isn't the same even with healthy top end

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Speaker 2: players in the secondary. Are you buying or keep trying

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Speaker 2: on that statement?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm buying that. I mean, he's a premier player,

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Speaker 7: he's the leader of the defense, he's an All Pro,

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Speaker 7: and what he gives you both in the run game

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Speaker 7: and rushing the passer from that interior. You know, even

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Speaker 7: though we got some guys that are playing better in coming,

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Speaker 7: you just can't replace it to Forest Buckner. So what

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Speaker 7: I'm most excited about Matt sounds from Shane's comments last

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Speaker 7: week that you know, the outlook and prognosis is positive

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Speaker 7: for him, getting him back healthy on that d line,

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Speaker 7: along with all those pieces we got now playing together

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Speaker 7: in the secondary.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm buying now one totally. There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 6: I Mean, that's why one of the reasons that I

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Speaker 6: think Andy wanted to keep the ball away from Jonathan,

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Speaker 6: no question about it, both the way played defense but

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Speaker 6: also the way they played offense. They pounded the ball

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Speaker 6: like they never did. They got away from their RPO game.

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Speaker 6: They pounded it because they know that we are really struggling.

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Speaker 6: If you take Grover off that front now with Buckner out,

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Speaker 6: you don't have physical players. You've got athletic players, but

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00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 6: you don't have physical players, and so you know basically

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Speaker 6: that is going to be you know, it's one hundred

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Speaker 6: and forty last week rushing, one hundred and forty eight

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Speaker 6: yesterday rushing. And that's the biggest issue of all. I mean,

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Speaker 6: we can find ways to stop the pass against normal,

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Speaker 6: normal teams. Our corners will get better as we go,

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Speaker 6: but you know, right now, in particularly when you have

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Speaker 6: like Johnson and Callimore in there, it's it's hard for

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Speaker 6: me to watch.

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Speaker 3: No question about it.

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Speaker 2: And lastly, to wrap up here, I heard this one

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Speaker 2: on Sirius x SIM NFL Radio today, National NFL Radio

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Speaker 2: coming in. This is the last one on buying or

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Speaker 2: keep trying the Colts schedule Rick Vturi. It heats up

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Speaker 2: in the final six games and the Colts offense is

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Speaker 2: on shaky ground heading down the stretch. Are you buying

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Speaker 2: or keep trying? On that one? Coming from the National pundits.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm a little I'm a little bit in between this.

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Speaker 6: I'm about ready to buy it. But I've seen too

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Speaker 6: much of our good offense. Even in the first half.

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Speaker 6: Danny was on fire. I mean we you know, Jonathan

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Speaker 6: two forty four of the week before. So I'm not

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Speaker 6: gonna say that it's a lost cause, but we have

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Speaker 6: been exposed. I mean we've been exposed in the last

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Speaker 6: two out of three weeks. You get up, you jam it,

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Speaker 6: you stunt, your run, stunt, you stop Jonathan. You press

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Speaker 6: us really tight at the line, which really has always

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Speaker 6: kind of been the solution against us. We're gonna have

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Speaker 6: to fix that, and we're going to have to figure out,

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Speaker 6: you know, how to win on the outside and as

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Speaker 6: Joe said, till we loosen them up and get them

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Speaker 6: back into conventional defenses.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not going to buy that one yet, but

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Speaker 7: I think to me, it's you know, playing the same

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Speaker 7: and winning time when it's in the fourth quarter and

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Speaker 7: having our offense have the same production. Yes, it's great

848
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Speaker 7: to get twenty points through three quarters, but you got

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Speaker 7: to be able to do it when the chips are

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Speaker 7: down and the games on the line, and that's something

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Speaker 7: that I think you get this game, and I think

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00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 7: the Steelers game is different. You go back to the

853
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 7: Rams game right and getting it done when you really

854
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 7: need to have that drive on the road. That's the

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00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 7: next step for this team in this offense.

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Speaker 2: All right, great stuff right there, Rick Fintery and Joe

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Speaker 2: Radio Studio. All Right, we got some juicy ones here

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Speaker 2: locked in the chamber. Let's go to brock up first.

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Speaker 2: He's asking, Hey, Joe, as a former player, how tough

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Speaker 2: is it to fight through adversity this time of year?

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Speaker 2: In late November, the grind of the season is here.

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Speaker 2: They're still over a month and a half left of

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Speaker 2: the season. How do players push through the dog days

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Speaker 2: of the regular season.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean it's simply a mindset because everybody in

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Speaker 7: the NFL is going through with it. And yeah, week eleven,

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Speaker 7: Week twelve. Is your body tired and beat up? Are

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Speaker 7: you fatigued mentally? Yes, you know the Colts did just

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Speaker 7: have their bye week. But to me, it's just the

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Speaker 7: mindset that knows we have a team that's a playoff team,

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Speaker 7: that we're trying to win our division, and that should

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Speaker 7: give you an extra boost. Now, I've always thought November

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Speaker 7: is the toughest month of the season just in terms

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Speaker 7: of mentally getting ready to play. Once that clock hits December,

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Speaker 7: in that calendar, you just kind of get some extra

902
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Speaker 7: feel refreshed more knowing you, hey, we got four games left.

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Speaker 7: Then we're into the playoffs. So we got four games

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Speaker 7: left and we're going home if you're on a bad team.

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Speaker 7: So but to me, this last game in November, I mean,

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Speaker 7: it's just a mindset and it's an attitude that you

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Speaker 7: got to prepare and understand. You know, you got all

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Speaker 7: of your goals still at stake right there, and we

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Speaker 7: got to go out and execute them. So to me,

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Speaker 7: there's really no excuse for having the juice, the energy,

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Speaker 7: the enthusiasm that you need to go out and play

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Speaker 7: these football games.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's roll on with the mail bag here, Donald

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Speaker 2: has chimed in again hashtag Colts round Table on x

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Speaker 2: Donald's asking, Hey, Rick, did you think our secondary looked

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Speaker 2: as quote shut down as everyone thought it would with

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Speaker 2: Ward and Gardner playing together at cornerback.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think first of all, you got to credit Andy.

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Speaker 6: Andy knew what he was looking at. If you want

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Speaker 6: to credit coaching staffs for being ready for a team

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Speaker 6: and exploiting weaknesses, all you got to do is point

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Speaker 6: to this game offensively and defensively. I mean, I thought

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Speaker 6: our corners, I thought they shut people down on the outside.

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Speaker 6: There was almost nothing that happened outside that hurt us.

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Speaker 6: But Matt, we got killed in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 6: We got killed in the middle of the field, both

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Speaker 6: with in zone passes and even in man demand passes.

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Speaker 6: Because what happens is and Ward got me twice on

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Speaker 6: those what I call runaway routes, you know, where you're outside,

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Speaker 6: and then they rubbed them one time, you know, and

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Speaker 6: they brought people all the way across. And if you

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Speaker 6: don't get to the quarterback or he extends to play,

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Speaker 6: it's just impossible to stay with a guy that long

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Speaker 6: and across the field. And then when we do go

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Speaker 6: to zone our linebackers are really limited in pass coverage.

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Speaker 6: I mean we got holes all over the place, I

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Speaker 6: mean tight end slots, and what teams are going to

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Speaker 6: do to us, and this is what we have to

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Speaker 6: be ready on. The next step is they are gonna

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Speaker 6: do what Kansas City did. They're gonna motion, They're gonna

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Speaker 6: get into stacks, They're gonna move a guy like Rice around.

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Speaker 6: I mean Rice made big catches on Kennymore. You know

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Speaker 6: on zone I mean it wasn't You won't have the

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Speaker 6: luxury of always having your corners on your outside matchup.

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Speaker 6: People are gonna run inside and so I think the

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Speaker 6: two things that we have to do just to not

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Speaker 6: be geeky, but there's two things we have to do.

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Speaker 6: I think we're in zone coverage. I think those linebackers

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Speaker 6: have to start matching routes. They're letting people run in there,

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Speaker 6: run in open air clean. And then I think on

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Speaker 6: some of our man demand coverages, we got to drop

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Speaker 6: that week's safety down in the hole on the week's

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Speaker 6: side to help us to be able to cut off

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Speaker 6: those over routes coming across. Because again, if you're not

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Speaker 6: knocking the quarterback down or a guy like Mahomes who

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Speaker 6: can extend it. No matter how good you are, you're

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Speaker 6: not gonna be able to handle that. So yeah, I

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Speaker 6: think we have shut down capabilities, but teams also know that,

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Speaker 6: and so we have to be able to protect the

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Speaker 6: middle of the field. We just got gashed in there

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Speaker 6: three hundred and forty six yards, most of it in

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Speaker 6: the middle.

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Speaker 2: All right, Lastly, Joe, this is for you. This is

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Speaker 2: coming from John, our last submission that we're going to

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Speaker 2: take here in terms of time allowed on the show.

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Speaker 2: This is coming from John. What are the biggest things

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Speaker 2: that concern you? Joe Wright's going forward about our team

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Speaker 2: with six games to play in huge division games on

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Speaker 2: the horizon against Houston and Jacksonville.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I think this is a copycat league,

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Speaker 7: Matt right, and so I think what teams are going

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Speaker 7: to do is they're going to start running five six

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Speaker 7: man pressures zero blitz like Kansas City did. Houston's obviously

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Speaker 7: got a really good front, but you got to make

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Speaker 7: those teams pay. We used to say, if somebody's going

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Speaker 7: to run cover zero against us, it's going to be

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Speaker 7: a big play for them, or it's going to be

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Speaker 7: a big play for us, And you got to make

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Speaker 7: teams pay in terms of hitting them on a forty

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Speaker 7: to fifty sixty yard run when they don't have any

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Speaker 7: safety coverage back there. And when you do that, that's

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Speaker 7: going to some people up and say, Okay, we can

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Speaker 7: go ahead and run and we can blitz the heck

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Speaker 7: out of the Colts, but they make us pay and

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Speaker 7: throw it over our head. We're gonna think twice next

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Speaker 7: time we try to dial up that pressure.

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Speaker 3: All right, great stuff right there. That's the mail bag

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Speaker 2: where the Colts rank in the AFC pecking order, and

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Speaker 2: also preview Thanksgiving week and the Houston Texans up next

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Speaker 2: It's time for our closing arguments as we wrap up

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Speaker 2: the show and look ahead to the Houston Texans who

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Speaker 2: are up next. As the Colts return to action this

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Speaker 2: Sunday in the AFC South By the way, the Colts

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Speaker 2: return home to Lucas Oil Stadium for the first time

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Speaker 2: in five weeks. But Joe writes, tell me what life

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Speaker 2: is like this week for players on Thanksgiving week? Then

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Speaker 2: give me your final thoughts. And the Colts lost to

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs and weeken number twelve, and how well you

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Speaker 2: think they are to be poised to bounce back and

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Speaker 2: a huge game on Sunday against the Texans, who again,

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Speaker 2: they're playing some good football right now. They've won three

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Speaker 2: in a row. They're back in the mix in the

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Speaker 2: AFC South. They're six and five and they should be

1030
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Speaker 2: getting their starting quarterback CJ. Stroud back this week, returning

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Speaker 2: after missing the last couple of games with a concussion.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, first off, you know, Thanksgiving, wonderful holiday and Happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 7: All of our listeners out there appreciate you guys tuning

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Speaker 7: in every Monday night. But for everybody in the NFL,

1036
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Speaker 7: you just changed the day up because Thursday is a

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Speaker 7: big workday. But what you do is you do your meetings.

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Speaker 7: You start the day earlier. You don't have any post

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Speaker 7: practice meetings, so when practice is done at one one

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Speaker 7: point thirty, you let guys go to kind of have

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Speaker 7: some time and Thanksgiving dinner with your family. So that's

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Speaker 7: what the Colts and the Texans will both do. And again,

1043
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Speaker 7: going back to the game one more time, as gut

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Speaker 7: wrenching as that loss was, it's we're within the twenty

1045
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Speaker 7: four hour range and you got to move on. And

1046
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Speaker 7: I mean, just a huge game coming up against Houston.

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Speaker 7: They're playing well, they've won three in a row with

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Speaker 7: Davis Mills. Their defense, it's one of the top units

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Speaker 7: in the NFL. But two things in the Colts favor. One,

1050
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1051
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Speaker 7: I mean we owe those guys in a big way,

1052
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Speaker 7: going back to the last couple of meetings. And number two,

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Speaker 7: even though CJ. Stroud's coming back and he's your guy,

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Speaker 7: he hadn't played in a month, and psychologically, Houston can

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Speaker 7: say whatever they want to say. You're now sitting a

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Speaker 7: guy that's won you three straight games and got your

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Speaker 7: season back off life support, and you're putting them in

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Speaker 7: with a different quarterback. I think that plays to the

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Speaker 7: Colts advantage. But coach, I know, with that Thursday night

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Speaker 7: win against Buffalo, you've had three extra days to get

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Speaker 7: on the tape on Houston. So what should we expect

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're surging, There's no question about it. And it

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Speaker 6: starts with their number one talented defense, number one in

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Speaker 6: the league, no question about it. And I would argue

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Speaker 6: anybody that would argue with that is led by two

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Speaker 6: ambient edged players Anderson and Hunter, best duo in the league,

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Speaker 6: unquestionably twenty one and a half sacks between the two

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Speaker 6: of them. They can ruin your game. And then on offense,

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Speaker 6: Davis Mills has done a great job. He's reserved, he's

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Speaker 6: refired them with three and zero Stroud before he got hurt,

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Speaker 6: the number nine quarter QBR guy in the league. They've

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Speaker 6: got an ambient, absolute ambient who's been a Colt killer.

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Speaker 6: We've never had the answer for Collins on the outside.

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Speaker 6: He's there really go to guys. So again, they're going

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Speaker 6: to be confident coming off this three to three game

1077
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Speaker 6: run and that big Thursday night win, and they will

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Speaker 6: be ready and this will be this will this should have,

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Speaker 6: this should have the atmosphere of a playoff in Lucas

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Speaker 6: on Sunday as well.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely looking forward to it. That is the hope with

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Speaker 2: the Colts again returning home for the first time in

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Speaker 2: five weeks to Lucas Oil Stadium. Well said right there

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Speaker 2: by Rick Ventury and Joe Wrights. That's a quick look

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Speaker 2: at the six and five Texans who are up next

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Speaker 2: for the Colts. And that's all the time we've got

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Speaker 2: tonight on this edition of Colts Around Table Live. Joe

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Speaker 2: and Rick, Well done tonight per usual. You guys have

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Speaker 2: a great Thanksgiving coming up on Thursday. We'll do it

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Speaker 2: again next Monday night, recapping the action of Colts and Texans.

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Speaker 2: My thanks again to Shane Steichen who joined in the

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Speaker 2: first segment. And if you missed any of the show,

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Speaker 2: the entirety of the program here shortly is going to

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Speaker 2: be posted in podcast form on Colts dot com and

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Speaker 2: the Colts Mobile app and the Colts Podcast channel anywhere

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Speaker 2: you download your podcasts. Have a great week coming up.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for tuning in tonight. Happy Thanksgiving everybody

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Speaker 2: coming up on Thursday. I'm Matt Taylor, Pacer pregame. It's

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Speaker 2: coming up next. This has been Colts Roundtable Live here

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Speaker 2: on your home for the Colts ninety three to five

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Speaker 2: and one oh seven five.

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Speaker 3: The fan, have a great night.