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Speaker 2: Well, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: So I've kind of stayed out of all Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: I can disagree a dissenting opinion. I don't really care,

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Speaker 3: gonna have to worry about that side of the ball,

435
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Speaker 3: and so it's a so but because you're trying to

436
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 3: like nurture these quarterbacks like Joe Burrow. They're talking about

437
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 3: the Callahan guy, Brian Cally. Would I forget which his

438
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 3: first name.

439
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: Bill, Bill Well Bill.

440
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's Bill or Brian. One was

441
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: a father, one's son. I assume everyone of the NFL's

442
00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: real Brian's the yeah that he's getting head coaching jobs.

443
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 3: So is Joe Burrow gonna have to learn either a

444
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: new system or is it gonna be So that's tough.

445
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: Well, see, even when you have the offensive coach.

446
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: Like when the enemy left kans City, there's been some

447
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: growing veins for Patrick.

448
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, ideally you want an offensive coach. You can win

449
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: with a defensive coach, but you're gonna go through offensive

450
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: coordinators regularly. So ideal Demiko's winning, but they're gonna have

451
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: to hire a new OC within a year. What you

452
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: want is McVeigh who has the ability as he changes

453
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: in OC to kind of step in and kind of

454
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: tweak it very quickly because these defensive coaches Belichick Brady

455
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: laughed at Belichick. He didn't even know the language of

456
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: offense and he's been a football guy for fifty years,

457
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: So it is. I think Houston's fine, and I think C. J.

458
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: Stroud will be fine. But I said that, how about this,

459
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Speaker 1: I'll throw this out there. You'll think it's crazy. I said,

460
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: the comp for c. J. Stroud was Jared Goff, and

461
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: I had said on the air multiple times, nobody will

462
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 1: acknowledge this. That's a good comp. I don't see juice

463
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: it either. But if almost love Goff, you've heard me.

464
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: I love Golf. I think he's a top ten guy.

465
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 1: But Goff inherited a disaster. By the second year, he

466
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: had McVeigh and Whitworth a left tackle. Stroud got the

467
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: good coach initially and the good left tackle. If you

468
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 1: go to Goff's second year numbers, there's Stroud's rookie numbers.

469
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting, yees see.

470
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Speaker 3: So I don't the comp there is tough for me,

471
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Speaker 3: just because Stroud is so much more juice in his

472
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 3: arm than Golf does, and so like to me, the

473
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: upside for Stroud is higher than golfzever was.

474
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Speaker 1: But that was lamb Jeerline, a Houston guy that made

475
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: the comp, and he said, listen, after the Georgia game,

476
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: when CJ. Stroud ran, it's like, there's your juice like

477
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: Herbert and the Rose Bowl. Oh he can run too.

478
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: But the comp is really good. Pocket throwers really accurate,

479
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: better in the pocket than moving, though they can move.

480
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: But it is interesting Goff's second year coach, left tackle

481
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: and a couple weapons. They're the same numbers. Actually, I

482
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: think he has a few more touchdowns GoF second year.

483
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: But it's just Goff inherited nonsense, and I did. And

484
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: I said, God's not good enough to overcome nonsense. And

485
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 1: I said with with with Stroud, He's not good enough

486
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: to overcome nonsense. He didn't inherit nonsense. Great OC, great

487
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: left tackle, good weapons, good coach. So we still don't

488
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: know the truth of that. It's easy to say, well,

489
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: Scround's amazing. But Demiko Ryans was so I remember talking

490
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: to somebody inside the Niners. They're like, we made this

491
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: guy like defensive controller by the next year, like should

492
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: we make him coordinator? He was there for like an

493
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: hour and a half, Like Demiko was a lot.

494
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: Listen, I was. I was in Houston covering the Texans

495
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 3: when he was a player. When he was a player,

496
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 3: people said he's going to be.

497
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: A head coach.

498
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the and then I'll get another I forget

499
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: who tweeted it, but somebody tweeted, I think if I

500
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: owned an NFL team and I was interviewing for head coaches,

501
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 3: I would only interview nerds or linebackers, like the player,

502
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: like people love Antonio, Piers, Rabel's been good, Jamiko's been awesome,

503
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: and then like there's the Mike McDaniel, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay.

504
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: Like I'm a genius at twenty eight years old, I

505
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: can figure it out. He's like, those are the two

506
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: lanes either a linebacker and Dan Campbell's not a linebacker

507
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 3: who tied end, but it's kind of a linebacker in art,

508
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: like a linebacker mentality or a nerd.

509
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: I loved it. You know.

510
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Speaker 1: One of the things that I and I think we

511
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: both like this sort of the theories of sports. I I

512
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: find Lamar Jackson fascinating, and there's there's so many comps

513
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: with Lamar. But I think what I like most about

514
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: Lamar is that your opinion of Lamar will tell me

515
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: everything about you the person. Because in order to love Lamar,

516
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: you can't be rigid. You have to accept initial opinions

517
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: are wrong, including your own. Because Lamar is now an

518
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: elite pocket passer, Lamar wins eighty percent of his games.

519
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: Lamar and Josh Allen Mahomes is maybe the more refined quarterback.

520
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: Lamar and Josh are the hardest players to frankly defend,

521
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: because when they want to run, it's kind of you

522
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: can't do anything about it. They're bigger, faster, stronger.

523
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: Than other people.

524
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Speaker 1: And that what's fascinating about Lamar. When people tell me

525
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: they don't like Lamar, it doesn't tell me anything about Lamar.

526
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: It tells me about the person that you struggle with, change,

527
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: that you struggle with things that aren't conforming to your

528
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: initial view. If you go into Lamar, this whole thing

529
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: about the pocket quarterback, if you watch football, you can't

530
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: tell me he can't throw from the pocket, he doesn't

531
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Speaker 1: have a top tight end. It's ob j a rookie

532
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: to a rookie and a second year guy. He literally

533
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 1: is so dangerous that San Francisco's warners and Bosa's and

534
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: Chase Young's are afraid to rush him. Is that Lamar

535
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: is a classic. It's like, if you tell me a

536
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: vote for Trump, I don't need to know. I can

537
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: kind of frame who you are and what matters to you.

538
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: If you tell me you don't like Lamar. It's like

539
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: they used to joke every sports writer ever loves Springsteen,

540
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: right like I think they Yeah, it's a profile for it.

541
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: And so it is funny with Lamar when I watch

542
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: him play, I can't imagine not saying that's one of

543
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: the top three guys in the league.

544
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: But it is.

545
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: Amazing how many people still struggle with him.

546
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's two things. One is, I think

547
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 3: you're right, like there is a level of either rigidity

548
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: or I'm convinced it's not the same. But it's people

549
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: who even you know, two MVPs and a championship in

550
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: we're like, ah, not sure about Steph Curry, not sure

551
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: if that can win in the NBA.

552
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, that couldn't win in the NBA.

553
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: That youth that used to exist and that may be

554
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: you wish came back. Yeah, but in today's NBA, that

555
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: can be one of the three best players in the league.

556
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: That style, that brochra, that thing, and you just don't

557
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: want to accept that the world or the game has changed.

558
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: The Lamar thing is almost has felt for his whole

559
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: career a little more nefarious. There's almost a level of

560
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: it's not just that he's black, but it's that the

561
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 3: way he carries himself and that he is so unashamedly

562
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 3: himself that some people have been like, I don't want

563
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: that guy to be the best play, the best quarterback

564
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: in the league or the MVP in a level that

565
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: other black quarterbacks didn't threaten him the same way like

566
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: Mahomes or other guys that they're were like okay, no, no, no, yeah,

567
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: that's that's more okay. So there was, to me always

568
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: a level of that. But then there also is the

569
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: level of people have a really hard time doing what

570
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: I think you do really well and some for somehow

571
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 3: people give you shit for it, which is.

572
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: Hey, guess what changed my mind?

573
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: Like, hey, I thought this, I watched more games, I

574
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: saw more things, and I've changed my mind on something.

575
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: And so I think there were a lot of people

576
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: that are planted their flag. This guy is just an athlete,

577
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: not a quarterback, and then any evolution he makes they won't.

578
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: Give him credit for. Won't want to.

579
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: Now I want to be clear, like I thought, I

580
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: was skeptical that the offensive coordinator change was gonna work.

581
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: I thought in the loaded AFC, the Ravens could miss

582
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: the playoffs. It's not like I've been like, oh my god,

583
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: he's gonna have this monster year. But as he was

584
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: having it, I was not in denial that it was happening.

585
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: I wasn't like, no, I mean, you know what, I

586
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: think it's Isaiah likely carrying him. It's like I watched

587
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: the games like there is I because there's another quarterback

588
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: that I think is almost the inverse, which is I

589
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: think that people deep down don't think is good but

590
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: are either afraid of going against the numbers or they

591
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 3: think it's mean, and so they lie to themselves.

592
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: And that's toua.

593
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: I think that there is a level of if you

594
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: watch a lot of football, you're like, well, he's a

595
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: small doesn't have a big arm, is not if he

596
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 3: is athletic or he's not, it doesn't really matter because

597
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: unfortunately he can't really run because he can't get hit

598
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: because of the concussion stuff, and he needs everything perfect

599
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: perfect for it to work. Perfect everything people it was

600
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: I've never heard such a thing in the NFL where

601
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: people just basically, and I think they were serious. We're like, yeah,

602
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: I know the Chiefs beating eleven win team by nineteen points,

603
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: but you got almost put an asterisk on it because

604
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: it was fucking cold, and they're like, and we all

605
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: know Miami can't deal with that, like they came from Venus,

606
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: and it's.

607
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: Like, oh, it's like, oh, it's not fair.

608
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: This is not their climate. It's professional football players. But

609
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: by the way, not wrong. It's like, you're correct, can't

610
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 3: deal with it. So all these things, but there was

611
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: to me a push, especially about midway through this year,

612
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: where folks in our profession would do almost this rhetorical thing, well,

613
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: what more do you want him to do? Leads the

614
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: league in passer rating, leads the league in this stat

615
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: what more does he have to do to convince you?

616
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: And I would listen to this, and I'd be like, Okay,

617
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: either one of two things. Either you're just doing you know,

618
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: a captain easy stance like this will be a popular opinion.

619
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,239
Speaker 3: Miami fans will be happy for me, or you. I

620
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: feel have a fundamental misunderstanding of how football works, because

621
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: what I want him to do is something I think

622
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: he's physically uncapable of doing, incapable of doing, which is

623
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: be one of the eight to ten human beings alive.

624
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: That and shit is bad, and you have to just

625
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: make it happen.

626
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: You can and we know he can't, and so there

627
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 3: it's like what can he do? Unfortunately the answer is

628
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: nothing like nothing like there is not And people would

629
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 3: try to be like, oh, you're underrating the what he

630
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: does with his eyes and how he moves to fenders,

631
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you're just bullshitting, like you're just saying

632
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: all these things because you agree with me that if

633
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: a game comes down to can you make the throws,

634
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 3: you don't have the guy and so and then after

635
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: this playoff loss, and this is what would just kill

636
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 3: me if I were Mike McDaniel. After the playoff loss,

637
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 3: some of the narratives switched to, Okay, guys, I know

638
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 3: he's smart, and I know he gives good quotes, but

639
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: how much blame should Mike McDaniel get here? And my

640
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 3: response would be if I'm him, like, okay, so now,

641
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 3: because I have gotten the absolute most anyone could ever

642
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,240
Speaker 3: get out of this quarterback, now it has turned into

643
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: it's my fault we didn't go further because you've tricked

644
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: yourself into thinking we have someone.

645
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: We don't have a quarterback, right, like why do they

646
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 2: fall apart?

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Speaker 3: Once the weather changes and the teams get better because

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Speaker 3: our quarterback can't throw it thirty yards in a.

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Speaker 2: Stiff wins, right, and everyone knows it. Everyone knows it.

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Speaker 1: No, it is that the media can be protective on that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's kind of what the media does.

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Speaker 1: Like John Stewart said this years ago, just enough conservatives

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Speaker 1: are just enough right when they say the media is

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Speaker 1: in the bag for the left. There's just enough examples

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Speaker 1: where you're like, yeah, well kind of. It's like they

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Speaker 1: the media oversteps places that it shouldn't, you know, overstep,

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Speaker 1: And I think sometimes the media is protective and they

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Speaker 1: choose and I think two is one of those. Everybody

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Speaker 1: feels bad about the concussions. He's a kid of faith,

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Speaker 1: he's a nice and he's a really nice kid. He's

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Speaker 1: an easy, easy guy to root for.

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Speaker 2: And he's not the problem with it.

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Speaker 3: It's not like I'm saying this guy's a bum, this

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Speaker 3: guy shouldn't be in the league. But if I had

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Speaker 3: a real problem just reconciling with people that I like

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Speaker 3: and respect, their opinion were like I think he's the

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00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 3: NFL's MVP.

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Speaker 2: It's like kind of like what do you? What do you?

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Speaker 2: And if there was an anonymous team vote.

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Speaker 3: You think the has ten guys on that team that

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Speaker 3: vote not for the league MVP, for Dolphins MVP, then

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00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: vote for him over Tyreek Hill, Like, no, you don't.

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Speaker 2: And it's not even that you can't win.

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Speaker 3: With him, it's that everything has to be perfect and

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Speaker 3: the guys that it's not allow long list of guys

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Speaker 3: that things don't have to be perfect for.

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Speaker 2: But those are the guys that have.

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Speaker 3: Not all the value, but a wildly disproportioned amount of

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Speaker 3: the value when it comes to who can win this

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Speaker 3: time of year in the NFL, especially right now in

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Speaker 3: the AFC, where weird things going on.

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Speaker 2: Where in the NFC you.

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Speaker 3: Don't really have to deal with bad weather because it's

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Speaker 3: domes in warm weather. It's La San Francisco, Detroit, Dallas, Tampa.

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Speaker 3: I guess domes are warm weather. The only good outdoor

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Speaker 3: teams are Philly in Green Bay and they didn't have

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Speaker 3: home field this year. In the AFC, the only good

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Speaker 3: dome team is Houston and Miami. Miami's warm weather, but

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Speaker 3: then it's Cincinnati, Buffalo, Cleveland, Kansas City, Baltimore. So if

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Speaker 3: you're gonna try to win in the playoffs, and you're

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Speaker 3: in the AFC, you sure shit better be able to

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Speaker 3: go out in the cold outdoors in January. And in

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Speaker 3: the NFC you can build a track team be like

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Speaker 3: we're probably gonna be indoors the whole way anyway.

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Speaker 1: The volume