1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: and everybody. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: You don't know if you don't lie about that. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Right, All right, y'all, we're gonna get back into part two. 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 3: I'm Laura the Rosa. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: This is the Latest with Laura Rosa, which is your 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, and 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: all of the conversations that shake the room. We've been 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: having a conversation with creator, storyteller, actor, director and writer 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: Marcus Callender. He played Oliver Power Grant or you may 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: remember him if you've watched Ghost Power Book two. He 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: played real Ray. Y'all, remember we lost Raina, Baby Raina 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: because of ray Y. Now tap in as we get 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: into the final part of our conversation about how he. 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: Stuck it out good, bad, ugly. 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: They say the power actors don't get more jobs, but 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: he stuck it out and now he is bringing Spades 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: to play to life on stage here in New York, 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: and you guys get an exclusive listen of what the 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: inspiration was. So talk to us about why Spades, Like, 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: I know you said you walked into a place one 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: time in LA and people were playing space check. I 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: gotta get back to it, but originally like why write 24 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: a play about space? Like why is that? This is 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: like your passion project? And also tell us about us, 26 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, briefly, what what is the story? What is 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: the log line of the play? 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 4: Okay, before I tell you that, here's another thing too 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 4: for people to know. When I was putting that reading 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 4: together last year, my agent drop. 31 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: That, also, how does it? So? 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: What happened when you say they robbed you? 33 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: Like? How? 34 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: Because I'll be watching my money like I mean, but 35 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm also I mean, I'm not a regular series on 36 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: a network show or a streaming platform show, so my 37 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: checks maybe not like yours, but I be no, I'm 38 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: in all of it, Like, yo, what's up? 39 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 4: So while I'm while I was getting ready to put 40 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 4: this reading together, I woke up from a nap and 41 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 4: my agent calls me. I'm thinking I booked something, because 42 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 4: that's the only time they call you. She's like, yeah, 43 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 4: you know, Unfortunately, we're gonna have to let you go 44 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 4: because due to the writers strike, a lot of things 45 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 4: were cut Agired. 46 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: Agents are being fired there. 47 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 4: You know, the rosters are getting smaller, and I was 48 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: with a big agency, so I knew it was going 49 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: to happen. 50 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: I was like, if I don't book something. 51 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 4: They probably gonna drop me, which is really fucked up 52 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 4: because I just did three seasons of a show where. 53 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: Y'all getting that money. 54 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all so quick to drive me, you know, because 55 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 4: I'm not working off of a writer strike. 56 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 57 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 4: But at the same time, I didn't even I didn't 58 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 4: even react crazy. I didn't ask questions. I just said, okay, cool, 59 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 4: because I knew it was all a part of the plan, 60 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 4: all a part of Guy's plan. Because I knew that 61 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 4: that had to be cleared away in order for me 62 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: to really dive in because now I don't have an agent. 63 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 4: Now I don't have any reps, so I'm not auditioning 64 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: for anything. So I have no choice but to focus. 65 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 3: On this, right. 66 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 4: So it was it was a blessing in disguise, you 67 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: know what I mean. But it was also my first 68 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 4: time not having reps. 69 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: Well, you said they robbed you? 70 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: What, like what the no? 71 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: No? 72 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: No? No? 73 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: The drop? 74 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: Oh dropped You said they rob no no? What did 75 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: they take? Like, we're with them? Okay, they dropped you? 76 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean yes, but I also feel like too, 77 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: and this is just like twenty twenty five, Lauren speaking, 78 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: I feel like unless your agent is like moving mountains 79 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: for you, you can kind of low key figured the 80 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: shit out with a good manager, G lawyer honestly just 81 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: good lawyer, a manager if they really whit you with you. 82 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: But I don't think you need like that's where I'm 83 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: at right now too, us like talent that is. 84 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: Learning to build a team. 85 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't need all these people, all these 86 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: noises and all these decisions and blah blah blahlah like splits. No, 87 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Like I just need one to two good people. That's like, yo, 88 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: we out where we gotta be, what we gotta do. 89 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: Like so it was a blessing in disguise, and I 90 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: think the world and the industry changed. Where agent, you know, 91 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: for you as a playwriter and creator and also talent 92 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: would be amazing. We want to speak that into existence, 93 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: but you could do. 94 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: It without exactly but because I think what it not, 95 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 4: I think I know what it allowed me to do 96 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: was like really tap into all of these talents that 97 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 4: I have because I don't consider myself just an actor. 98 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: When people ask me what I do, I tell I'm 99 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: a storyteller. Whether that's acting, directing. 100 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: And writing, you know. So it allowed me to like 101 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: really dive into that and really own. 102 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: It, you know what I mean, Because for a long 103 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 4: time it was like yeah, right, but you know, but 104 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 4: now I'm owning it, you know what I'm saying. No, 105 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 4: I'm a playwright, I'm a writer, I'm a director, I'm 106 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 4: a producer, and I'm an actor. I do all of 107 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 4: these things and I think I do it pretty well. 108 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 4: So it's like a multi a multi hyphen it as 109 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 4: they call it. 110 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: So it gave me. 111 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 4: All this time to dive in, and I fucking I 112 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 4: committed to it, you know what I mean. I put 113 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 4: all my money into it because I know, you know, 114 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 4: for me, I'm like sitting on this story because it's 115 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 4: bigger than the play. So let's get into that. 116 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: Yes, So what inspired me to write this play. 117 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 4: I was learning how to play Space at the time 118 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 4: with some friends and what I thought was interesting was 119 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, I feel like watching the game 120 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 4: is more interesting than the game because. 121 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: It's just so much drama. It's all this other shit. 122 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 2: I said, Yo, this would be a dope. 123 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: Play in anybody house and anybody you know what's crazy? 124 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: I was before I left TMZ. We were piloting a 125 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: podcast for me, and now Nick Cannon has me playing spades. 126 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: But I said to them, I'm like, we should do it, 127 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: like let's just sit down and play space with people. Yeah, 128 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: I mean, of course they didn't really understand it. And 129 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: my co host shout out to Tawanna. She's still there 130 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: at TMZ. She don't know how to play spades. I 131 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: don't think she got to beat because she's never been 132 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: at the spades table. But so when I the name 133 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: of your play grabbed me. But also when I saw 134 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: Nick Cannon doing we playing spades to sit down in conversation, 135 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is like Genians for any black person 136 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: to live off of or thrive off off, because it 137 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: is entertaining just watching and hearing. 138 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 4: The game exactly. So I'm like, Yo, this will make 139 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 4: a dope play. And I knew that, you know, I 140 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: was at the time. I was starting to dab in 141 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 4: writing and stuff like that. So I was like, yo, 142 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: let me start writing this. And as I said, it 143 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 4: just kind of poured out of me. The characters, because 144 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: all of the characters in the player are based off 145 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 4: of people that I know. 146 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the story, So give us the 147 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: It's very simple. 148 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 4: Yes, it's about a group of friends that get together 149 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 4: on a Friday night in Harlem to play some spades. 150 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 4: But on this particular Friday, things go a little left, 151 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: as they typically go in a space game. You got 152 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 4: the liquor flowing, you got the we going, Things kind 153 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 4: of go a little left. The main character, we got 154 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 4: Gil Who's house. They're at Corey and Andre. These are 155 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 4: the core. This is the core friend group. But then 156 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 4: Gil invites a new friend to come play who can't play, 157 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 4: and she kind of stirs the pot a little bit. 158 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 3: The girl is the girl. 159 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So the first time I came to see the 160 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: play in Dumbo House, I thought that she was Gael 161 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: Bean it was Gil. 162 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: Oh, so it was Gail. Gil was okay, all right? 163 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: Because then when I came in Harlem, I'm like, wait, 164 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,119 Speaker 1: that wasn't Gail. 165 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: Am I tripping? But because they look they resemble each other. 166 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: Actually, okay, so thanks for answering that for me, because 167 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: I thought I was tripping. I'm like, yo, I had 168 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: just interviewed Gail for BT Talks, and I'm like, I 169 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: know Gail. 170 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: I've been watching her. And then I come and I'm like. 171 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: You tribab Me interviewed her while she was in rehearsal I. 172 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: Did, which was so crazy. Yeah, which was so crazy 173 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: because I didn't I didn't know. 174 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: I came to the. 175 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 1: Play because Taylor shout out to Taylor made it, who 176 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: is our one of the producers here on the podcast 177 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: for the latest with Long the Roads, which is how 178 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: we met. She just was like, Yo, my friend has 179 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: this play? Come with me? And then and I told 180 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 1: her yes because I love plays. And then I didn't 181 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: make it to that. She was like still just go, 182 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: like just pull up and I was like, okay, cool. 183 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: So I came and when I got there and I 184 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: saw Gail, I was like, oh shoot. But then when 185 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: I came to the second time, I'm like, did I 186 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: not seek. 187 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: No. Yeah, Gail is doing a play right now in LA. 188 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: But I had her for that reading, which was which 189 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: was great because she came in last minute. 190 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: She came in last minute out. 191 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: She was reading from the script. 192 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so that was another stage reading. And that's 193 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 4: another thing too. I'm realizing through this process, like there's 194 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 4: a lot of like theater things that some people don't 195 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 4: know about, especially in our communities particularly, And you know, 196 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 4: that's kind of a part of why I'm doing what 197 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 4: I'm doing, because I feel like theater is becoming a 198 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 4: lost art form in our community particularly. I feel like 199 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 4: everybody wants to be on TV, everybody wants you know, 200 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 4: the social media stuff. But it's like, yo, let's take 201 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: it back to the stage. Let's take it back to 202 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 4: the purest form, you know what I mean. Like, for me, 203 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 4: all my favorite actors coming up a theater act. 204 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: And I think people too don't understand that, like stage 205 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: live anything, theater plays, that's where you get instinct from. 206 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: That's where you get your instant That's where you learn 207 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 4: how to act on stage. But not only is it 208 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 4: getting lost in our community, but I think a part 209 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 4: of that has to do with the material that's being produced. 210 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 211 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 4: I feel like not enough of us are being inspired 212 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 4: to say, like, hey, I'm gonna write a play. 213 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: You know. 214 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 4: Everyone's like, yeah, you know, I wrote this movie, I 215 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 4: wrote the screenplay, but very rarely are you here, No, 216 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: I wrote this play, you know what I'm saying. 217 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: And to me, you know, I'm gonna be real. 218 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of plays right now I'm 219 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 4: going to the theater. Everything fucking sucks. I'm like falling asleep, you. 220 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: Know what i mean. 221 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 4: I'm sitting here for two hours and what you know 222 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: what I mean? I want to I want to have 223 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 4: an experience, you know what I mean. That's the whole 224 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: point of theater. That was what made it different going 225 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: to go see a play as supposed to going to 226 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: see a movie, because you knew you were gonna get. 227 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: An experience in experience, remember when people. 228 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 4: Were excited to see the actor spit on stage, like yo, 229 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 4: Like I could see the actors spit and like yo, 230 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 4: they they really in it, you know what I'm saying. 231 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 4: So for me, I was like, yo, I want to 232 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 4: I want to bring that essence back. So that's a 233 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 4: part of what I'm doing with the play. I mean, 234 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 4: you were there, like the audience is right there, you 235 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 4: know what I mean? 236 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: Because our actors played to the audience too, like when 237 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: they're toast when they chairs which, to be honest with you, 238 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: if you are at a family get together and space 239 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: is going down and they get a little crazy, everybody 240 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: joining in, everybody they talking about the renigga and they 241 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: talking about that. You know what I'm saying, so it 242 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: felt like that like family get together environment, which was. 243 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 3: Great question for you. 244 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: So you say every character in the play reminds you 245 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: of someone or based off of someone that you know. 246 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: Right. 247 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting because Spain is very synonymous almost. 248 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if white people the white 249 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 3: people play Spades. Sophie. 250 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: I've met one white person. 251 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: Okay, you know what space is, Okay, I've never I 252 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: just thought about this right now and forming this question. 253 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: I've never even heard the white person even talk about space. 254 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 3: Never heard of space in your life? Okay. 255 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: She just left at Landa Okay, Okay, yes, so it's 256 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: oh girl, dang, we gotta bring Sophie to the play. 257 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: It would freak her out. Okay. 258 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: So okay, So Spades is it's it's a black thing. 259 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: The lead character Guild that you talked about is a 260 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: gay man in the play. I thought that that was 261 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: as a creator and a person that writes. I was like, 262 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, because I didn't make it to the 263 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: end of the play. I was like, I don't know 264 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: if he did this on purpose, but that instantly drew 265 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: me in because I was wondering what role or what 266 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: conversations do you want people to leave the play having 267 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: becau because our community sometimes shies away from anybody in 268 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: any type of community that sexuality wise, they don't accept. 269 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: So a gay male as the lead of the play, 270 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: he's very openly gay the first not to get the 271 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: story away, but he's dibbling and dabbling into you know, 272 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: the DL conversation right off writ off the rint and 273 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm okay, I didn't get to that part. 274 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: Oh yea yea yea yeah, yeah, yeah, yah yaha. 275 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: Oh okay. So but see even with that, I did 276 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: see that part. 277 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: I didn't think that because so in the play basically, 278 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: for those who didn't hear the off came off camera 279 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: voice in the play, there's a point where he's talking 280 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: about his homegirl's mom. 281 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: But my gay guy friends will compliment you. 282 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: Up and down. 283 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: They don't want you though, but they the gay men 284 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: are you know they're not. There's so much personality and 285 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: characteristic there that those compliments. In the way he was 286 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: talking about her mother, I just thought it was her 287 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: homeboy just complimenting her mom because she's fine. 288 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 4: I mean, the nuance of that character is that like, 289 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: yes he is gay, but like he doesn't consider himself 290 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 4: that to him, he just likes what he likes, you 291 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 292 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: It just happens to be men all the time. 293 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he just likes what he likes. So for him, 294 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 4: it's like I could pull whoever the fuck I want 295 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 4: to pull, right, you know. 296 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. 297 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 4: So that's what also gives his character that that nuance 298 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: and you know, that kind of special energy, and it 299 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 4: makes his character more specific and not so general, you 300 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 301 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: Because Yeah, and he's a very strong likes person like you. 302 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: He resonates very well, like you feel like you know him, 303 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: you have a friend like him as a straight man. 304 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: Writing for his part though, because that was another thing too, 305 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I'm like, you know this, I'm like, 306 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: hold on, wait, I didn't know your sexual preference at 307 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: the time, and talking to you right now, I still 308 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: don't know fully all of your sexual per Okay. 309 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: Thanks for clearing that up. 310 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: But yeah, now I'm sitting here and I'm thinking, I'm like, 311 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: as a writer, nailing that character the way that you 312 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: did as far as like what you wrote for him 313 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: was so on point as well too, and that. 314 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 4: Character is based off of one of my best friends 315 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 4: to this day. So you know, this is somebody I 316 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 4: hung out with. So the characters in the player about 317 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 4: twenty three years old, rush out of college, you know, 318 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: trying to figure it out. So during that time in 319 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: my life, you know, him and I will hang out 320 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: pretty much every day Aaron Harlem. The play where the 321 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 4: play takes place is five blocks from the theater gotch, 322 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: so we would. 323 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: Hang out all the time and just you know, all 324 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: kinds of shit that went down. 325 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 4: And he's just an interesting person. He actually lives in 326 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 4: London now, so but yeah, he's just this interesting person 327 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: to me, like Gay or I. He was just interesting 328 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 4: and I just and his philosophies were interesting. So, you know, 329 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 4: to write, I was able to write that character because 330 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 4: I've just spent so much time with him, and I 331 00:14:59,000 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: was able to. 332 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: Find why was it important for you to make him 333 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: the main Like he is the glue to the whole spade. 334 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: I consider that like the ring master, like when you 335 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: got a circus. Yeah, I consider him the ring master. 336 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 4: Because I just think I think I think he's just 337 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 4: I think he's interesting, you know what I'm saying. I 338 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 4: think he and I feel like you know, he may 339 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 4: make some people uncomfortable, which I like, but that's what 340 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 4: we want when we go to the theater. 341 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: We want to feel something. 342 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: But that's why I thought it was genius. That's literally 343 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: why I'm like. 344 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: When people see the first the first thing that happens 345 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 4: in the play throws people. 346 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: Off, like, yes, he is very much okay, living his 347 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: best life. 348 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, He is and and but 349 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: and but That's what I'm saying by because the first 350 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: I swear, the first thing I thought of is like, ooh, 351 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: the auntie is gonna have a field day with this 352 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: one when they come, because they love to play spades. 353 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: But certain conversations you just not having with your aunties 354 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: and uncles if you are black male. Honestly, not even 355 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: just a male. I have female cousins who are also 356 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: gay that have had a hard time to explain any 357 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: things to our family exactly. 358 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 359 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: And I think the beautiful thing about his character is 360 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: that I honestly feel like it for people to come 361 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 4: see it who aren't used to like maybe hanging out 362 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 4: with people in that crowd or whatever, I think it 363 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 4: kind of gives them a different perspective that could be 364 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: or what that could look like. 365 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: Because his character's hilarious. He's fucking hilarious, you know. 366 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: What I mean. 367 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 4: So to have that and then to have the character Corey, 368 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 4: who you know, is a best friend of his. They 369 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: grew up in DC together, so they have that rapport, 370 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 4: and you got Andre, Andre is. 371 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: You know, is God blessing. Andre is one of the 372 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: characters in the play, y'all. 373 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: I was sitting there and I'm like, I'm so glad 374 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: that I met people like Andre when I was sixteen 375 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: and not at thirty three, because he is just out here, 376 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: just doing whatever comes his way. 377 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: So Andre is based off of me. 378 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: Oh god, lord, you got yourself together there. 379 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is my younger days. Okay, this is me 380 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 4: or my younger days. But yeah, the character is based 381 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 4: off of me, you know, yeah, the characters based off 382 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 4: of me. The character Corey is based off of an 383 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: X of mine, a couple of exes of mine, kind. 384 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: Of in one. 385 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: The character net for Titty, who's the friend that comes 386 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 4: in and stirs the possion, is based off of somebody who. 387 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: I used to date. 388 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 3: Is the situation. 389 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: I can't I don't even know how to ask this? 390 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: How are the situations based off of real situations too? 391 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: Yes? I really in the play? Yeah, virginity thing, we 392 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: can take that out. You take that out. I don't 393 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 2: want to give away. 394 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: To I can't get we can't. Y'all gotta go see 395 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 3: the play. 396 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: So, knowing that this is all based off of like 397 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: real life things, I mean, it felt real, but it 398 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: adds to it. Have any of these people seen the play, 399 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: like the people that you've based it off of. Have 400 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: they seen the play? And reactions? Especially the ex girlfriends? 401 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: My ex girlfriend has not seen the play? 402 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 3: Is this the ex girlfriend that's also on TV right now? 403 00:17:59,840 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: No? 404 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: Okay, no, but I'm sure she'd be triggered by it 405 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: if she saw it too. But no, they have not 406 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 4: seen the play. Nor do I think they want to 407 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 4: see the play. I mean the X that is based 408 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 4: off of She still still does not. 409 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 2: Fuck with me to this day. 410 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: Wow, So you know, I don't think she's gonna see 411 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: the player, at least not this production. 412 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: Maybe another production. 413 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: The show your exison isn't Belair because Belair is only 414 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: a season four. I've been trying to figure this out. 415 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep thinking, why you talking. I had to 416 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: look that up, like, how do I Seasons a bel Air? 417 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: Sure you probably watch it. 418 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 4: You seem like you might watch it, so yeah, yeah, 419 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 4: Andrews based off of myself. NEFFERTITTI is based off of 420 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 4: someone I met in La. That's another thing too, And 421 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 4: that's another that's a part of like the journey in 422 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 4: writing it. When I first wrote neffer Titty, I didn't 423 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 4: spend that much time in La, so I wasn't as 424 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 4: familiar with La culture and people like that. So when 425 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 4: I was living in La, I was able to develop 426 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 4: that character more, you know. 427 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: What I mean. I remember meeting somebody out in La 428 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: and I was like as soon as I saw her, 429 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: I was like, that's. 430 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 4: That's right there, so you know that kind of date 431 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: and her kind of added some details and stuff like that. 432 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: And why is the drink of choice? Do you can? I? Yeah, Hennessy, 433 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 3: it's too it's Hennessy and his tailor. 434 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 435 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: Because we didn't have a run with cosmigos in the community. 436 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: Patron had us in the cold sorak. But maybe you 437 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: can't do with boys you're not allowed to beat them 438 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: no more? Like is there a creative answer to that? Question, 439 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: or did you just pick those because that's what niggas 440 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: be doing. 441 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: I feel like Hennessy is such a staple in the 442 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: black community. 443 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you pull that handy out, you know what 444 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 4: time it is? Yeah, I'm saying, like, you know what 445 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 4: time it is? And then tailorport. I feel like there's 446 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: another staple in our community. 447 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: It's having a run right now with really yeah. Oh 448 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: all summer they've been doing teleports. 449 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 3: Yo. 450 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 4: But it's you know, it's known to be this cheap, 451 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 4: delicious wine. It tastes like juice, but that shit'll fuck 452 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 4: you up, you know what I'm saying. So, and I 453 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 4: think it also plays I use that because it plays 454 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 4: to like her age. She's young, you don't know any 455 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 4: refined wines or anything like that, but she's boozy enough 456 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 4: to be like, I don't drink any okay, you know 457 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, it's. 458 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: A certain type of girl. 459 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: So in the play, without giving it away, in the 460 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: Spades game, you know, you have your drinks going, your 461 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: food going, and those were the drinks of choice. 462 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: Which they leaned a lot on as tools in the play. 463 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: So I was wondering, like, is that a creative thing 464 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: or just because that's what we've been doing, so you know, 465 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: thinks for that. 466 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 4: In earlier versions it was Moscato because that's I feel 467 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 4: like Moscato's another. 468 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: Like the chink, Yeah yeah, you know wine. 469 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 4: But I was like, let me do the tailorport because 470 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 4: I've had tail report and I know that thing that 471 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: should fuck you up. 472 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: Well, people go ahead. No good when people come and 473 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: see the play. 474 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: When it's done and it's over, and they walk away 475 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: and in their cars and they lick because they didn't 476 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: had a good time there, right, y'all a good time? 477 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 3: What conversation do you want them to have? 478 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 4: I mean one, I want them, you know, I want 479 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 4: the experience of being there and seeing the show. I 480 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 4: want that to kind of resonate with them because to me, 481 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm bringing back what theater used to 482 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 4: feel like. 483 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: They used to feel like going to. 484 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 4: The theater, you know what I mean, you got an 485 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 4: experience and like I remember back in the day, like 486 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 4: going to like something underground or like off Broadway was 487 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 4: like that's where the real work and the magic was happening. 488 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 4: So for me, it's like I'm bringing people up to Hallow, 489 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Yo, We're not even on 490 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 4: Broadway with it. We up on one hundred and twenty 491 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 4: fifth right in the heart of it. 492 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 2: And it's not like a tradition. 493 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 4: It's not a theater technically, it's just this really dope space, 494 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 4: the spot that we use and create and created this 495 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 4: story out of, you know what I'm saying. So like 496 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 4: people come in and like the play's happening here. Yes 497 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 4: it is, you know what I'm saying. So to me, 498 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 4: it's like I want them to leave with that experience. 499 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 4: I hope that, you know, they could relate to somebody 500 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 4: in this play. I feel like there's at least one 501 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 4: character in this play you can relate. 502 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: To, you know what I'm saying. 503 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 4: And yeah, and I hope it inspires people to want 504 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: to write their own plays. I want people to be inspired, 505 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I want people to realize. 506 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 4: And I also want people black people specifically to understand, like, Yo, 507 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 4: we don't have to wait on them to make stuff. 508 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: We can make the shit ourselves. 509 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,239 Speaker 3: Based off of things we literally just do all day 510 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: long in real life anyway. 511 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 4: Exactly, you know what I mean, Like shout out to 512 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 4: my team and like everybody that's working with me on this, 513 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 4: Like these are all people I love, all people that 514 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 4: you know, Like I couldn't do this without. 515 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: Them, you know what I'm saying. And it takes a village. 516 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: As they say, teamwork makes the dream work. 517 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: And then talk about you know, just you're talking about 518 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: taking a village. 519 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: So we did all of the kind of like the 520 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: context of your backstory, how has everything that you've been through, 521 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: the people that you've met come into this moment of 522 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: spades right now, because like I said, I walked in 523 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: the first one and I'm like, that's gal Bean, Like 524 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And that's a big name 525 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: to have attached to a slag. You're a big name 526 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: as well, but you know it was I mean face 527 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: recognition you instantly, like you know, and that helps to 528 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: put your project in certain conversations because she has fans. 529 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 4: Exactly, I mean shout out to Gail, thank you. I 530 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 4: mean the story about how that she wasn't who I 531 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 4: had originally for that reading, the girl I had originally 532 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 4: had to pull out, and she kind of pulled. 533 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: Out last minute, So I was at it. I was 534 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: in a pit goal, but. 535 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 4: You know, I hit up a friend of mine in 536 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 4: the industry who has worked with Gail. I said, look, 537 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 4: I think Gail would be good for this role. I 538 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: think she lives in New York from what I see 539 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 4: on Instagram. You mind reaching out to her and you 540 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And she reached out. I mean 541 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 4: the person I called to reach out to her. She 542 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 4: makes things happens because people have a lot of respect 543 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 4: for her as to why. So I knew hitting her 544 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 4: up to hit up Gail was just gonna expedite Tasha Smith. 545 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 2: Tasha need to come see the play. I met Tasha 546 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: a few months ago. She needed to come see the play. 547 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: She would love it. 548 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: Tasha Smith was, which is so random because like we 549 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: didn't even really know each other like that. It was 550 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: just like, you know, you meet good people in passing. 551 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: When I was trying to figure out leaving LA, I 552 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: randomly called her. She couldn't She didn't answer, but she 553 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: texted me and was like, Hey, everything okay. And I 554 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: texted her and said, I'm about to quit my job 555 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: and move from LA. I just wanted to get some 556 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: advice from somebody that's actually working and doing all the 557 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: things I want to do. And she sent me a 558 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: voice no, and that voice note had me crying And 559 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: the next day I quit my job and moved her. 560 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: You see, but you took the leak. Yeah, but the league. 561 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: But I'm saying she's the person that, like I mentioned 562 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: that because I know that like Gail did Harlem, and 563 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: you know Tasha Smith is working on well was working 564 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: with Harlem and all the things. 565 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: But you talk about getting her. 566 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: To that play like, she's the type that will come 567 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: out to that play, talk about that play like, and 568 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that I love about what 569 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,479 Speaker 1: you're doing and the reason why I'm like, all right, 570 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: I might can only come for like thirty forty minutes, 571 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna come it. Text me an hour to 572 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: get there, but I'm gonna come because I want to 573 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: support it. Is because I understand that if what we're 574 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: doing right now, that's how people find out about it, 575 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: that's how your play gets to wherever theaters you want 576 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: it to go. Just the eyes gets the financial support 577 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: all it does take community and had your resources. But 578 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: we gotta be like the Tasha Smith's of the world, 579 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: who we will pick up the phone and call, will 580 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: come out. We'll talk about it like that's like so 581 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: big for me, and I think what you do, y'all 582 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: need it because theater is it's not the thing that 583 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: people like run and yell about exactly. 584 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 4: I mean because also too, it's like, as I said, 585 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 4: I think it's another example of like people are more 586 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 4: concerned with the glitz and the glam. You know, folks 587 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 4: want to be on Broadway and all this other shit. 588 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 4: That's cool, but what's the work that's being produced. I'm 589 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 4: sitting in these plays and I'm like, Yo, this is whack. 590 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 4: On top of that, I'm tired of seeing the same 591 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 4: actors all the time. 592 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: Why can't we get new faces? You know what I'm saying. 593 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: There's other people who are just as hungry, who are 594 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: just as talented, if not more. They just need the opportunity, 595 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. That was something I did. 596 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 4: That was something I was very conscious about in casting this. 597 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 4: I wanted brand new faces. I don't want to see 598 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 4: the same all the time. These are all people I 599 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: know because I'm in the industry with them. I'm tired 600 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 4: of seeing, y'all. I want new faces to help bring 601 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 4: this story to life, you know what I'm saying. 602 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: Because instead of people coming and be like, oh that's 603 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: so and so. I want people. Oh that's guilt. 604 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: Oh that's core, you know what I mean, Like I 605 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 4: want because to me, I feel like that helps the 606 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 4: character resonate even more, you know what I'm saying. 607 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 2: So you know, for me, it's just kind of like 608 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 2: we just need, like we need to shake things up 609 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: a bit right now because it's too stale. It's too stale. 610 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 4: Everybody just wants the accolade. But what's the product? What's 611 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 4: the story that you're telling? What's the experience that we're getting, 612 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Besides, hey, I was there, 613 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 4: and so and so from so and so was in it, 614 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 4: and I took a picture with them. 615 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: But what's the story. What was the play about? I 616 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 2: don't remember. I fell asleep, you know what. 617 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like I want to if I'm coming to 618 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 4: the theater, I will tell you a story like move me, 619 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Something So I'm I want 620 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 4: to bring that back. And I want to travel with this, 621 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 4: like New York is not the one and the only stop. 622 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 4: I want to take this all over the country. 623 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 3: I know, Atlanta, Sophie said, Atlanta. 624 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I know they're gonna eat it up Atlanta. 625 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: Look, Sophie told us, Oh, oh, they're gonna eat it up. 626 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 3: Oh no, Sophie, we know I had some. 627 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 2: People auditioned from Atlanta, send audition tapes from Atlanta. 628 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: I mean, but that's a black mecca. So that's like 629 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: a duve, you know what I'm saying. Atlanta, DC, Chocolate City, 630 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: Chicago would do well. 631 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: Icago eat it up to that. 632 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 3: I went to Chicago recently and I was like, this 633 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: is Atlanta, Like it's so black. 634 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: I was in the Soho House in Chicago and it 635 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: was black people, and like I was, I was because 636 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: you hear the complete like not that you don't hear 637 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: that black people are in Chicago, but you only hear 638 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: about the bad things happening with black people when it 639 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: comes to Chicago, at least on a media level for 640 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: me and what I do. So when I went there 641 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: and I'm seeing all these black people in the Soho 642 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 1: House and you know, it's just vibes and people are 643 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: happy and you know they're I was just like, yes, 644 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: like it felt like I was in Atlanta. It felt 645 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: like I was in Atlanta where you walk outside and 646 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: like black is royalty. 647 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what my dream city is Oh, yes, 648 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: New Orleans is my favorite city in the world. Yes, 649 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: I would love New Orleans. 650 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 4: I think it'll happen because you know, New Orleans doesn't 651 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 4: have a theater scene like that, which is which is. 652 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: Crazy to me. 653 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, all of their like the band like front line 654 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: stuff that they do is music and the costuming. 655 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: And you know what it is, It's because New Orleans 656 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 4: is a theatric is a theatrical experience in itself, just 657 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 4: being in the city, the food. So New Orleans is 658 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: my dream city because you know, as I said, like 659 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 4: they don't have a theater scene out there, and I 660 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 4: think this place specifically they would, oh they would eat 661 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 4: it up. On top of that, what you know, what 662 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 4: we want to do is like every city we go to, 663 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 4: we want to like cater to like that city, you 664 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 4: know what I mean. So like you know how we 665 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 4: have the Sunday brunches here, Yeah, you know, we'll do 666 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 4: that in New Orleans and say, like we'll have you know, 667 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 4: we'll bring in a band, you know, because they're big 668 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 4: on that second line and all that type of stuff. 669 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: And imagine the food in New Orleans. Imagine the food 670 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: in New Orleans. You know what I'm saying. 671 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 3: So what do you need to make that happen? Like money? 672 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 3: Exactly simple? 673 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: As well, how can the people, you know, our community 674 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: here at the Ladies with one of the rosa it 675 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: is called the Low Riders. On the audio side, we 676 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: have five million people. That was like a few months ago, 677 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: so we probably will well over that. The visual side, 678 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: we're here, this is new our home in our studio. 679 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: So to all the people listening, anyone watching, how what. 680 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: Do you mean? 681 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 4: For one, if you're in New York, if you if 682 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 4: you if you are in New York City, come see 683 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 4: the play. Just first and foremost, just come see the play, 684 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 4: come experience it, so that at least you know what 685 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 4: you're putting your dollars into and you know now and 686 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 4: then you can relate to what we're talking about. We have, 687 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: you know, we have a donation link if people want 688 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 4: to donate. But I think first and foremost, I just 689 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 4: want people to come see it. Come see it, come 690 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 4: experience it, you know what I mean, Because I think 691 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 4: that will help with moving people to want to do it. 692 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 4: Because then also to I get it, the economy is 693 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 4: real fed up, right, it's up, But we need joy too, 694 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 4: that we need the great do you need you? That's 695 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 4: why Sunday brunches are my favorite days because it's just pure. 696 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: Family, you know what I mean. You come in. 697 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 4: We have a different DJ every week. His on has 698 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 4: been our food. Ok to her, she's been killing it 699 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 4: with the food. 700 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: People do they eat? 701 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 3: They eat in the space that we were in. Yeah, 702 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: and what there's on tables. 703 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: On the second floor. We got table set up and 704 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: everything you eat. 705 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 4: It's a it's a four to twenty friendly space, so 706 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 4: you know, you get your smoke on too, you know 707 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. We have drinks, you know what I mean. 708 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 4: Everything is everything that you need to have a good time. 709 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 4: It's provided for you. Shout out to our whost Sarah. Sarah, 710 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 4: you know, kind of keeps the vibs going. She's really 711 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 4: dope and it's just a good time. And then you 712 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 4: get us to watch a play after, you know what 713 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 4: I mean. And then after the play, if you want 714 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 4: to chill and play space some more, you can do 715 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 4: that too, you know what I mean. 716 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: It's just a good time where you could just come 717 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: and commune and. 718 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 4: Just you know, it's it could be a nice little 719 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 4: date night, little situation or a nice little yo. 720 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: Come find you, you know, come find a little you know. 721 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: They need a website, they need a website, they need 722 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: an Instagram. So how can they come to Where do 723 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: they get the tickets to come see the play? 724 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: Go to our Instagram at space to play. 725 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: All common spelling, huh, all regular spellings. 726 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 4: It is. Our ticket link is in the bio and 727 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 4: they can find it there. And yeah, you know, we're 728 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 4: still building. We're still building. We we are in the 729 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 4: beginning stages. But this is gonna grow. You know what 730 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 4: I'm saying, I think because also to another beautiful thing 731 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 4: is that this is literally the only thing of its kind. 732 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 2: There's no other play that revolves around the game. 733 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 3: I love this for you. 734 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm trying to look up your ticket link so you 735 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: can share it because on the audio side, you got 736 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: people that might not be Instagram savvy, okay, so I 737 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: want to make sure that can get to you. 738 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 4: We're selling our tickets through posh. It's an app for 739 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 4: like events and stuff like that. So if you have 740 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 4: the app Posh, you can find us their space to play. 741 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 2: Same way. 742 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: Nothing else got you, got you, and we'll in the 743 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: so for everybody. Uh, you know, listening, watching whatever. We'll 744 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: have the link visually if you're watching, but if you're listening, 745 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: we'll make sure that we put the link. 746 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: I'll have it on my like Instagram, and then we'll 747 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 3: also try and make sure that we put it in 748 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: a description. 749 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's clickable there from that though, 750 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: but if it is, I don't mind doing that for 751 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: you either, so that people can be able to But 752 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: if you're listening, just I'm gonna do this just in 753 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: case we can't link it if you're listening, Spade to 754 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: play on Instagram all common spelling, but you guys follow 755 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: me on Instagram as well. I'm Laura le Rosa everywhere, 756 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: and y'all know I'll be posting this and tagging and 757 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: all the things so that you guys can find this play. 758 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: Definitely go out and see it. Definitely bring a friend. 759 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: Definitely tell a friend. I've enjoyed the conversation. 760 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 4: I know. 761 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: One of my favorite things to do, as you know, 762 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: a podcaster, because we're podcasters now, y'all, it's have conversations 763 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: that I enjoy, and like I've been able to do 764 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: that through this show. 765 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 3: I've been blessed to be able to do that. 766 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: And I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation and hearing your journey, 767 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: and I'm proud that you kept going. 768 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 769 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: Are you happy now? 770 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 771 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean it's look, but there's been 772 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 4: a lot of moments where it was like, Yo, what 773 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 4: am I doing? 774 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: What am I doing? You know? God? Like what you 775 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:00,719 Speaker 2: do to me right now? 776 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 4: But you know, it's just that it's that resilience to 777 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 4: like keep going no matter what, cause you know you're 778 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 4: gonna be faced with obstacles. 779 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: That's life. But that's the test. Yes, can you make it? 780 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, are you gonna let 781 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 2: so and so stop you from making it happen? You 782 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 2: know what I mean? 783 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 4: And every time I persevered, it's come through for me, 784 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I already know big 785 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 4: things are gonna happen from this. I don't know what, 786 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 4: but I just know this is this is something that 787 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 4: I was put here to do, you know what I mean. 788 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 4: And that's another thing too, that in that journey I 789 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 4: told you about, I find it. 790 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: Allowed me to discover my purpose. You know what I'm saying. 791 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not just Marcus the actor anymore. Telling people 792 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 4: I'm an actor is so boring to me because it's like, 793 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 4: I do way more than that. Yeah, acting is my 794 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 4: you know, my first love and all of that, and 795 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 4: I could do that, it ain't going nowhere. 796 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: But I also do these other things and I have 797 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 2: a lot to offer. But sometimes you have to. 798 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 4: Put yourself out on front street in order for people 799 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 4: to realize that, as opposed to waiting for someone to 800 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 4: tell you that, because these folks ain't gonna tell you that, 801 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 4: they're just worried about Hey, can you audition for this thing? 802 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 4: You know we want to ten percent? You know what 803 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 4: I mean exactly yourself. You gotta bet on yourself. If 804 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 4: you know that you have more to offer to the world, 805 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 4: you have to bet on yourself because no one's gonna 806 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 4: want it more than you. 807 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I agree. 808 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: Well, look, low riders, I tell you guys, every single episode, 809 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: y'all could be anywhere with anybody having these conversations and listen, 810 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: y'all choose to be here every single episode. So I 811 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: am extremely excited that you guys got to experience what 812 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: I've been able to experience in seeing space to play 813 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: and hearing from the creator Marcus calendar. 814 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: Oh so too. 815 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 4: I'm an ambassador of this company called you a full 816 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 4: rolls its rolling paper company. And what makes their product 817 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 4: unique as well is that the rolling paper kids. 818 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 2: Come with a builting grinder. Come on, now, I think 819 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: it's in here. 820 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 3: I don't know nothing about much, but he's very excited 821 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 3: about it. 822 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: So so this is so, this is the paper right here. 823 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 2: You know, you got your you got your papers, you 824 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 2: got your filters. But then on the inside, let me 825 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 2: see the ground. It's like there's a little mini grinder 826 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 2: right there. So on the go you can take your 827 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 2: we oh. 828 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 3: You still gotta do it, like yeah, okay, but like 829 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 3: let's get under your nails though. 830 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 2: But but look, it's better than nothing. 831 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 3: Oh it's a greater Okay, because I know grinders, you 832 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 3: normally like twist them. 833 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: Sometimes you'll be out You're like, damn my god. 834 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,959 Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying. What's your carry? 835 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 2: And it comes with that, and then we have a grinder. 836 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 2: We do have a ground one. Okay, that's pretty special too, 837 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: got you. It's shaped like a U of fo got you. Okay, 838 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 2: this is our grinder. 839 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 3: I love that. 840 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 4: Got it like a little U fold shaped to it 841 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 4: so for all my marijuana kind of seers out there 842 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 4: looking at the UFO role. 843 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: You can copy your product and then you can come 844 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: and watch your play because it's for twenty friendly and 845 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: you can use the product with it. 846 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 2: We got we got product goal lord at the show. 847 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: Yes, well, y'all, make sure y'all pull up check out 848 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: Space to play. Created directed by Marcus Calendar. Thank you 849 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. This has been an amazing conversation. 850 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: And congratulations and when you are winning all of the 851 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: awards and all the things. Okay, don't forget us over here. 852 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna forget. 853 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 3: They gonna call y'all back for another interview. Don't forget sure. 854 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: I know I'm a little all over the place, but 855 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: we knew, but we hear. It's the latest with Lorna 856 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: Rosa the Podcast. I'll see you guys in our next episode. 857 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 3: Thank y'all for joining me. 858 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: This has been a live conversation with act your storyteller 859 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: creative Marcus Calendar. 860 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 3: I'm Lorna Rosa. This is the latest with Laura Rosa. 861 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 3: Signing out