1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. George Norry with you. Doctor Christopher Davis is 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: an interventional cardiologist and founder and CEO of Reveal Vitality. 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: After medical school, doctor Davis trained at the very prestigious 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: John Hopkins Sinai Hospital for his internal medicine residency. During 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: his training, he was recognized and honored for his incredible 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: talent and commitment to patient care by being bestowed the 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: honor of Chief Medical Resident at John Hopkins Sinai University. 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: Doctor Davis continued his training in cardiology and interventional cardiology 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: with fellowships at the renowned University of Virginia, and he's 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: with us now on Coast to Coast. Doctor Christopher welcome, 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. It's a pleasure to be here. 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: This is a fascinating discussion. Tell us a little bit 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: about your company, Reveal Vitality. Absolutely. Reveal Vitality is a 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: lifestyle medicine practice about five years ago. I'm a traditionally 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: trained interventional cardiologists, meeting people who have heart attacks, putting 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: in stents and basically opening up those arteries. When someone 18 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: doesn't have a heart attack, but in my course of 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: the past, so I guess fifteen years of medicine, I 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: started to see there was a lot more to medicine 21 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: and a lot more than we could add for my patients. 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: I think that there's some innates inefficiencies for the chronic 23 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: medical part of what we do in medicine, and I 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: thought we did a poor job of it. You know, 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: when you think about heart disease and diabetes and autoimmune 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: diseases that we see, it was time for me to 27 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: make a change. I'm figuring out how we address these things, 28 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: and most of these things are addressed by lifestyle and 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: understanding what those lifestyle factors are that contribute to these 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: chronic diseases. And long story short, I decided to try 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: to educate my patients spending more time. I've kind of 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: backed out of the traditional medical system with insurance based 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: practice and started a practice where I spent more time 34 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: with my patients, connecting with them and educating them about 35 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: how to truly become healthy and lo and behold, it 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: was just amazing what I started to see and how 37 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: my patients were doing after about a year of doing this, 38 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: and it's initially it was just nutrition, but then as 39 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: I started to fold into all these other things with 40 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: you know the importance of sleep and the importance of 41 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: detoxification and now some of the things we'll even talk about, 42 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: you know later on the show. I expected some of 43 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: the more metaphysical and energy medicine and where does this see, 44 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: where does true healing begin? I really started to delve 45 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: more into bio energetics and the energy medicine world, and 46 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: that's where I really just found things that was just 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: totally I would never have thought in a million years 48 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: I would end up where we are. But I incorporate 49 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: a lot of that in my practice as well, So 50 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: really a lifestyle medicine practice to educate a people how 51 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: to truly beat these crimes illnesses and then really enlighten 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: people also about things that otherwise would have been thought 53 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: of as well. Doctor, your work fascinates me because I mean, 54 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: I think you're onto something here with the heart. You know, 55 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: so many people have talked about the heart amidst love 56 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: in all this. There's something about that organ. It's more 57 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: than just a blood pumping organ. Isn't absolutely absolutely so 58 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: much more. You know, I firmly believe that, you know, 59 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm always a seeker of the truth. And I firmly 60 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: believe that, you know, I didn't end up in cardiology 61 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: as a cardiologist by chance. I think that, you know, 62 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: the more I learned about the heart, I learned I mean, 63 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: all of these things that I learned in medical school 64 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: and residency and fellowship about how to mechallic heart pumps 65 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: and how to mechanically open the arteries and how blockages 66 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: are called. Those things obviously very true. But obviously what 67 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: we didn't learn was again some of them meta physical 68 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: or the energetics of the heart. And you know, why 69 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: is it that we there's a few things and when 70 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: you think about some of these statements that we have today, 71 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: when when people say things like, you know, a heart 72 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: of goal, or follow your heart, or from the bottom 73 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: of my heart, or you know, just to get to 74 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: the heart of the matter, why why do we always 75 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: Why is it always about the heart? Why is that? 76 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer that the seat of consciousness and 77 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: who we are, the soul lies in the heart, you know, 78 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: And even I'll even go as far as to say, 79 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: and we talked about the mind, and we often think 80 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: about the mind being in the brain, and you know, 81 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: these thoughts coming from the brain. I'll tell you I'm 82 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: a firm believer, and not just me, Hippocrates, Plato, they 83 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: all had these feelings that that heart was the seat 84 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: of the soul. Do you believe the heart has emotion? Absolutely? Absolutely, absolutely, 85 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: you know. One of the biggest, one of the biggest 86 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: people to write about this and to talk about it, 87 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: Doctor Paul Piersol has a book called The Heart's Code, 88 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: and that book is about heart transplant recipients and how 89 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: these heart transplant recipients start to take on the characteristics 90 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: and the personalities of the donor, the donor of that heart, 91 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: and so that in itself, and it doesn't happen one time, 92 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: two times, many many, many many times over this happens 93 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 1: and how did that happen? That that emotion and those 94 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: those inherent personality trades were are held in those That 95 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: energy is held within that heart and then transcribed over 96 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: to the patient paient that actually get ends up getting 97 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: the heart transplant. So absolutely it holds lost that energy. 98 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: That held energy is information and that information is then 99 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: taken on to the heart recipient. Which is interesting. In 100 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one seventy two, back in Detroit, Christopher was 101 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: a reporter at a radio station and I covered a 102 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: story where a fellow by the name of Haskell Shanks 103 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: received the world's first artificial heart pump was a device 104 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: that they implanted. Maybe it even replaced his heart. I 105 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: don't know, but you could tell on his face that 106 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: he didn't look human anymore. He lost something when they 107 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: did something to us hard And from that moment on, 108 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: I began to think, maybe there's more to this organ 109 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: than people think. Absolutely. You know, one of the things 110 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: that I do with a lot of my patients that 111 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: are have these chronic illnesses that we're talking about, you 112 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: know there there there is a teaching out there called 113 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: emotion code therapy, and emotion code therapy is us a 114 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: therapy that uses energetics to figure out where people may 115 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: have subconscious trapped emotions U and I think that one 116 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: of the things that I've learned is if we can 117 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 1: dive into some of these trapped emotions, particularly those trapped 118 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: emotions that are held in the heart, when we can 119 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: release those energetically and they're specific. I don't do this myself, 120 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: but there are practitioners that I use that can do 121 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: things like this. When you release those trapped emotions, whether 122 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: they're anger, fear, whatever, those trapped emotions are that when 123 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: the true healing begins, and it doesn't necessarily that doesn't 124 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: necessarily heal the problem, but it allows all of the 125 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: other modalities that we use to then be more functional. 126 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: And so absolutely I think their heart really truly holds 127 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: emotion and when you tap into those, then that's when 128 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: real change can occur. Another institute, the Heart Math Institute. 129 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you've ever heard of that, but 130 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: that we've had them, we've had them on the program before. Oh, wonderful, wonderful. 131 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: I am a firm believer, and most of what most 132 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,679 Speaker 1: of my education and the start of my trunk down 133 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: this road begin with just doing heart math and doing 134 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: some of this heart coherent stuff and seeing how we 135 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: could manipulate how the patient's improved by achieving heart coherence. 136 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: And then you start to read all of their work 137 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: and the science behind the intrinsic neural or cardio neurology 138 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: is what they call it, neuro cardiology, the science behind that, 139 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: and then when you start to read their work, you 140 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: really believe, you really start to see, okay, there is 141 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: some innate intelligence in their heart. There's no question about it. 142 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Then why is it that 143 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: stress has an effect on the heart. It's almost like 144 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: the heart knows what's going on here. Oh absolutely, So 145 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: that's again let's just roll back to the to the 146 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: Heart Mass, the work that they've done and with that stress. 147 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: When we think about stress, I mean typically those are 148 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: emotional things and lots of different type of stress. Obviously 149 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: there's you know, there's physical stress, there's emotional stress, and 150 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: most of us think about it from an emotional component. 151 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: But those things I mentioned, things like fear, anger, depression, 152 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: those things change our stress. The stress hormones are change, 153 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 1: but we also know that they create this incoherence. What 154 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: what the Heart Mass Institute really talks a lot about 155 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: is creating a coherence between the brain and the heart, 156 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: and meaning coherence meaning the energetics, the frequencies that the 157 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: heart and the brain are functioning on become coherent. And 158 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: when you have that coherence, then that's when you're able 159 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: to That's when your body is able to function better. 160 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: Your nerve autonomic nervous system is functioning better. When you're incoherent. Again, 161 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: that's when you're more app to become have more chronic diseases, 162 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: even things like cancer for example. So that stress that 163 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: influences the coherence between the brain and heart. There are 164 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: a lot of other physiologic things that stress does. A 165 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: nervous system is imbalance, meaning sympathetic tone, which is your 166 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: what we call fight or flight response, and the parasympathetic 167 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: nervous system where we're talking about what we call rest 168 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: and digest, and that fight or flight is most of 169 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: us in this day and time or working or living 170 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: in a fight or flight state, and it's very important 171 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: to balance that nervous system and have that sympathetic imparasympathetic 172 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: tone imbalance, and some of the heart and mass techniques 173 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: thinking having these thoughts of love and gratitude of appreciation 174 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: helped to bring us back into coherence. Doctor, Where does 175 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: that gut feeling come from? Does it come from the gut, 176 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: Does it come from the heart, Does it come from 177 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: the brain? Where does it originate? I would submit to 178 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: you absolutely come from the heart. Some of the heart 179 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: mass work shows that clearly we used to think about 180 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: and then we think about all the organs being controlled 181 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: by our brain. So signals that come from their brain 182 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: to whatever organ, brain to the heart, the brain to 183 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: the stomach, the brain to the liver. Well, we now 184 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: know that there are more circuits that go from the 185 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: heart to the brain. We call these efferent circuits or 186 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: eferent nerves. They go from I'm sorry, afarent nerves. They 187 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: go from the heart to the brain. More circuits that 188 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: go from the heart to the brain than there are 189 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: that come from the brain to the heart. And those 190 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: gut feelings, okay, typically will come from originate from the heart, 191 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: go up the vegas nerve and then land in our 192 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: brain and cause a lot of emotions that we feel. Now, 193 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: I will also say I think there is an inherent 194 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: gut brain aferent axis as well. And so when we 195 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: start to think about from a gut feeling as well, 196 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: we know that they are neurons that actually the same 197 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: thing from the gut to the brain as well. So 198 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: a very similar concept. That's where that particular sting comes 199 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: from a gut feeling. It is truly remarkable how when 200 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: people walk into a room, for example, and you've cited 201 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: this as an example, many times where you get a 202 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: feeling from something, there's somebody that they're positive, they're negative, 203 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: But we know we know this, don't we. Man, This 204 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: is a great man, this is really I mean we've 205 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: all walked into a room. We're not even into a 206 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: room when your spouse or your significant others in the 207 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: bad moods. I mean, you can walk in a room 208 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: and you can tell you know it, you know it 209 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: when you meet up or absolutely and that actually though, 210 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: that is that is that energetic feel. The heart has 211 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: the strongest electromagnetic field surrounding it of any organ in 212 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: our body. We can measure the heart's electromagnetic feel about 213 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: three four feet away from the body, and that's been shown. 214 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: Their device is called the Superconducting Quantum Interference Devices SQUIDS SQUIDS, 215 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: and we can measure, we can measure those electromagnetic circuits 216 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: that are surrounding all of us and so those those 217 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: fields that you those fields that are emanating from us. Again, 218 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: I said, energy is information. Listen to more Coast to 219 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: Coast AM every weeknight at one am Eastern and go 220 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: to Coast to Coast am dot com for more