1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, but it is Tuesday February 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: in Hong Kong, Monday February in New York and coming 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: up today, the world's biggest minor b HP has cut 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: its dividend after China's slowdown drove down b HPAs profit. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: Top Chinese scientists sketch out plans to circumvent US chip 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: sanctions for the first time, and Hong Kong outlines a 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: plan to allow retail investors to trade crypto coins. Biden 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 1: surprise visit to Ukraine. China publishes a report on what 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: it says is the US plan to dominate global public opinion. 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: Turkey hit by another large quake. I'm at Baxter with 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: Global News. That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: the business news you need to start your day, and 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: just one fifteen minute podcast available on Apple, Spotify, the 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business App, and everywhere you get your podcasts. Good morning, 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm Brian Curtis and I'm Dak Krisner. Here are the 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: stories were following today. Very interesting to take a look 17 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: at BHP group. Here the world's biggest minor. It is 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: slashing its dividend. Let's get the story from Bloomberg's Richard Salama, 19 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: BHP will pay out ninety cents per share. That's down 20 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: from last year's record of one dollar fifty. This comes 21 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: as BHP commodities like iron, ore and copper slumped during 22 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: the second half of the year. This drove a decline 23 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: in b HP's half year profit. Prices were impacted by 24 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: China's economic slowdown and hawk is policy from central banks. 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: The world's mining giants have also been hurt by cost 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: inflation on energy, labor, and other inputs. Even so, b 27 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: HbCO Mike Henry says he's positive about demand looking ahead, 28 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: Henry saying he's expecting strengthening activity in China to be 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: a major driver in Hong Kong. I'm Richard salamat the 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg day Break Asia. We go to China next, where 31 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: some of the country's top scientists have outlined a plan 32 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: to circumvent US sanctions on semiconductors. That's or from Bloomberg's 33 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: Anabel Drulers. Senior academics Lord Jun Way and Lee shun 34 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: Shin say Beijing should gather patents that govern the next 35 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: generation of chip making. The patents would run from Nobel 36 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: materials to new techniques. The scientists contributed their comments to 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: the Chinese Academy of Sciences. The article offers a rare 38 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: glimpse into how Beijing approaches hostilities from the U S 39 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: over semiconductors. It also hints at how Beijing might react 40 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: in the future. So far, Chinese officials have refrained from 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: discussing countermeasures to US actions, reportedly even in closed door 42 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: meetings in Hong Kong. I'm Annabel Rulers Bloomberg Daybreak Asia 43 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: Hong Kong is taking a major step toward its goal 44 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: of becoming a crypto hub. That story from Bloomberg's yvon Man. 45 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: Hong Kong has outlined a plan to let retail investors 46 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: trade larger digital tokens on exchanges licensed by the Securities 47 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: of Futures Commission. In a consultation paper, the regulators said 48 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: safeguards such as knowledge tests, risk profiles, and reasonable limits 49 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: on exposed will be put in place. A consultation period 50 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: on virtual asset trading regulation has begun and will end 51 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: on March thirty one. The objective is to allow retail 52 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: trading in the new licensing regime for crypto exchanges due 53 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: on June one. We hear Bitcoin and ether, the two 54 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: biggest digital assets by market value, are likely to be 55 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: listed by Hong Kong platforms. I mean on Man, Bloomberg, 56 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: Daybreak Asia. Well. In the U S. A federal regulator 57 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: has asked Tesla for more information about one of its 58 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: vehicles being involved in a fatal crash in the San 59 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: Francisco Bay area. We have more from Bloomberg Scott Car. 60 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: The U s National Highway Traffic Safety Administration reached out 61 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: to Tesla after the incident in Contra Costa County this weekend. 62 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: County fire officials say at Tesla hit one of its 63 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: trucks that was blocking lanes while responding to an earlier accident, 64 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: and it's not clear whether the driver, who was pronounced 65 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: dad of the scene was using the Tesla's autopilot feature. 66 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: The NHTSA or NITZA has spent the last eighteen months 67 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: in investigating how Tesla's autopilot system handles crash scenes. It 68 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: has two active investigations into possible autopilot defects. Last week, 69 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: Tesla recalled almost three hundred sixty three thousand cars that 70 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: have full self driving beta software installed. The company says 71 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: that its recall notice the feature could violate traffic laws 72 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: before drivers are able to intervene. I'm Scott Carr, Bloomberg 73 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: Daybreak Asia. From Home Depot to Walmart, The biggest US 74 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: retailers are about to grab the earning spotlight. The story 75 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg, Susanna Palmer. The results this week will provide 76 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: investors with crucial insight into consumer demand, the path of 77 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: economic growth, and Corporate America's profitability. The group doesn't have 78 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: nearly the influence of big tech in terms of sway 79 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: over the broader market, but the companies will be closely watched, 80 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: as consumer discretionary shares are the year's top performing cohort 81 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: in the SMP five hundred index, this after getting battered 82 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: in twenty two on rising inflation and smolen inventories. Susanna Palmer, 83 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Daybreak. Yeah, Bryan Curtis and Chrisoner Paul Allen coming 84 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: up shortly, and we'll get to our guest, Chuck Camello 85 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: in a few moments. From SX Financial Services, Doug, the 86 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: b HP story is kind of interesting and that it 87 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: might it might be a microcosm of what's happening with 88 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: the global economy. Dismal second half last year, profits down 89 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: thirty two. China was more or less closed, the central 90 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: banks were obviously quite aggressive, and commodity prices dropped. You know, 91 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: we still have a bear market in commodities down the 92 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: bloomberg of commodity index from last summer. But now China 93 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: has reopened and that changes everything. Uh, And it's just 94 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 1: it's just curious. We don't know how soon this will happen. 95 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: But does that restoke optimism and growth perhaps, But you 96 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: have to look at the inflation component of what BHP 97 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: is saying, they're dealing with rising cost and Brian I 98 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: was struck by what ed Yar Denny of yard Any 99 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: Research is saying he's got a fort chance of a 100 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: soft landing in the US. I was struck by that 101 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: are Denny saying that basically in this scenario, inflation moderates, 102 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: which at this point seems hard to believe. Treasury bond 103 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: yields remain below last year's peak. And get this, the 104 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: SNP five dred ends the year at a new high. Yeah, 105 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: and he's widely followed obviously, Doug Um. It's a real 106 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: conundrum here. Um. Even though growth looks a little better 107 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: based on the data we've seen of late, it looks 108 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: like it'll be interest rates higher for longer. There's no 109 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: denying that inflation is serving as very sticky, and as mentioned, 110 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: we'll put that to Chuck Camello. Coming up now, it's 111 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: time for Global News. US President Joe Biden's surprise visit 112 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: to Ukraine is in the hopes of rallying new pledges 113 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: of help from European allies for Ukraine. At Baxter has 114 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: Global News in the newsroom at San Francisco ed, Yeah, 115 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: that's a look forward, Brian. You're right, historic trip to 116 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: mark one year of Russian invasion and to meet with 117 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: President of Avlatimer's landscape. Keith stands and Ukraine stands, the 118 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 1: democracy stands, the Americans stands with you, and the world 119 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: stands with you, saying Ukraine has captured a part of 120 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: his heart, and he said Russia cannot be allowed to 121 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: even win try to win the war. Young town of 122 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: Russians are fleeing at tens of thousands, not wanting to 123 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: come back to Russia. Has Zelenski addressed the gathering, saying 124 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: that he extended words of gratitude personally to President Biden 125 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: and to his team to Congress and to all US people. 126 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: Biden promised an additional sixty million dollars in military aid, 127 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: and in Poland will meet with Eastern European leaders to 128 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: make sure they're all on the same page. Now, there 129 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: is a large list of comments and responses. Today. In 130 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: an interview with South China Morning Post, Lensky War in 131 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: China of becoming allies with Russia against Ukraine, saying it 132 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: would bring on a world war, and the e U 133 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: s Joseph Burrows says that China Counselor Wang Ye and 134 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: their meeting said Wang told him that China has no 135 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: lands to arm Russia and that it will convince the 136 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: world it is a neutral actor and wants to broker peace. Shinhwa, meanwhile, 137 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 1: is published a four thousand word piece criticizing the US 138 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: and everything from war policy to culture, and saying it 139 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 1: will write a plan for peace. The article called US 140 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: Hedgemony and its Perils. Wang's next stop is Russia. The 141 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: Kremlin says a meeting with President Vladim Raputin has not 142 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: been excluded. Now. This leads US Secretary of State Anthony 143 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: Blinkoln to repeat the warning about bringing lethal weapons in 144 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: to help Russia in the war. China understands what's uh, 145 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: what's at risk, where to proceed with providing material support 146 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: of that kind to to Russia and Blincoln says the 147 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: concerns are real and in responds China's Foreign Ministry spokesman 148 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: at Juan wam Band, saying that China won't accept any 149 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: finger pointing from the US over its relations with Russia. 150 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: Turkey has been hit by a new six point four 151 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: magnitude Earth Week today. It has killed three people injured 152 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: more than two hundred in the same area that was 153 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: devastated two weeks ago. USS Secretary of State Blanket in 154 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: Turkey surveying the damage there by helicopter. United States is 155 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: here to support you in your time of need, and 156 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: we will be by your side for as long as 157 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: it takes to recover and to rebuild, pledging another one 158 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: hundred million dollar aid package, and the Philippines and US 159 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: will discuss a joint coastguard patrols in the South China. 160 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: See writer's report says China's aggressive stance in the area 161 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: needs to be monitored. Global News powered by more than 162 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: journalists and analysts and over one hundred twenty countries in 163 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: San Francisco. I'm at Baxter and this is Bloomberg. This 164 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. I'm Brian Curtis along with Paul Allen, 165 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: and our guest is Chuck Cumello, President and CEO at 166 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: Essex Financial Services. Chuck, how do you see the balance 167 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: of risk shifting here? Where it looks like inflation will 168 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: stay stay sticky, rates will stay up for a while, 169 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: but then growth will will be stronger as well. Well, yeah, 170 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. Um. Yeah, listen, 171 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: it's we're We're at a really interesting time and just 172 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: when the market was almost trying to convince itself that 173 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: thought that the Fed made pause or even cut I 174 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: think this month, which February, which you know is the 175 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: shortest month of the year, but it's certainly punching above 176 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: its weight in terms of economic and financial data that 177 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: we're getting this month. The data this month certainly puts 178 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: a lot of cold water on that argument, and I 179 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: think it will. And we've already seen the market react 180 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: to the employment number, c p I, p p I, 181 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: retail sales, etcetera. I think we're in for a more 182 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: volatile ride, and I think the market is finally waking up. 183 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: The rates are going to stay long higher for longer. 184 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: Maybe we get a pause, but I don't think it 185 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: cut anytime soon. We had some commentary from Muhammad al Arian, 186 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: chief economic advisor at Alians, is also a Bloomberg opinion columnist, 187 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: but he was saying that this two percent inflation target 188 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: for the FID just isn't realistic, that it's going to 189 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: crush the economy. That does that need to be revisited 190 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: in your view? Yeah, So I was reading something today 191 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: and it said three percent might be the new two 192 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: percent um And you know, getting getting from peak inflation 193 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: from where we were um to this, you know six 194 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: point for um, you know number that we're at right now, 195 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: give or take. Getting from that, you know that that 196 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: might be the more easiest move if you if you will, 197 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: not certainly pain free by any stretch, but getting from 198 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: six and change down to two, that's that's painful. And 199 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: I think the FED at some point, especially if you 200 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: start to see the impact to the jobs in employment 201 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: situations in the United States, I think they may need 202 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: to sort of revisit that and potentially again three is 203 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: the new two. You call it a win and you 204 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: move on. Yeah, it's one of those things where you 205 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: don't actually change the target, but you just kind of 206 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: quietly adjust to it. I suppose one thing I'm curious about, 207 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: Chuck that doesn't seem to fit for me is that 208 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: I understand that retail sales look buoyant partially because inventories 209 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: are high and retailers cut their prices. But they cut 210 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: their prices, then why did inflation pop up? So is 211 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: inflation not seasonal and sales are or what? Yeah, well 212 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: soon the inflation number, Well, two things. One the January 213 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: retail sales number. There could be there's a lot of 214 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: noise in that number, and I don't think you're going 215 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: to see February be anywhere near what January was due 216 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: to timing factors and um, you know, especially money that 217 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: people have not spent in December but then push things 218 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: into January. But inflation, you know, listen, it's the Fed 219 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: raising rates has certainly impacted anything that needs to be financed, cars, houses, 220 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: You see that. You see that across the economy, but 221 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: it hasn't really hurt services and wage inflation even when 222 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: this last number came down a little bit but still 223 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: persistently high. So you know, inflation, it's going to be 224 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: very sticky, and that's why the Fed is going to 225 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: have such a hard job of trying to drive it 226 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: down from here, Which goes back to the last point 227 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: about is two even realistic with given what the market 228 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: is dealing with, what the economy is dealing with, and 229 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: there certainly are enough factors at play that you can 230 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: make the argument that again two is not realistic. Inflation 231 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: is going to be with us longer, and the FED 232 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: got us into this and they're going to have to 233 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: get us out. And that's why you're seeing hearing more 234 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: hawkish tones coming out, and that's why the market is 235 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: going to react and has already started to react to this. 236 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: This you know, I don't we even call it a 237 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: new reality, but just the reality that rates are going 238 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: to be higher and we're going to have to the 239 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: market's going to have to adjust. Yeah, has the market 240 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: reacted that we got the SMP up six and a 241 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: quarter percent so far this year despite all of that 242 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: hawkish rhetoric. Is this a bit of a game of 243 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: chicken being played here? I think I think a little 244 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: bit of one, right, I mean, I think you've already 245 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: you've certainly seen a nice bounce right in the SMP. 246 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: I think it's six off its lows close Friday at 247 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: six and a quarter. Let's call it. Um. And and 248 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: there is again that optimism UM that started the year 249 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: off with a maybe we're going to get that pause 250 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: or a cut later in the year. Again, I think 251 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna enter into a new volatile stretch here. And look, 252 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: we haven't even talked about the debt ceiling coming up 253 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: in June, which is you know, one of the biggest 254 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: things we're starting to hear from clients. So I think 255 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: again we're going to be in for a volatile stretch here. UM. 256 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: And I think coming off of Q four that was 257 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: so so ugly and it was a tremendous amount of 258 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: tax law selling, especially in Q four. You've seen this match, 259 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: You've seen this bounce, and I think there's always sort 260 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: of a natural optimism to a new year, and especially 261 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: after the midterm elections being over. Um. But you know, 262 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: we're running into the cold, hard phase of reality, which 263 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: is higher rates and an inflation air environment, and that 264 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: is a really hard wall for the market to climb. Yeah, 265 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: everything you outlined there is perhaps to wind down equities 266 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: a little I suppose or to rationalize a bit. You 267 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: like bonds here, So how how would you tinker with 268 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: your portfolio as you know, as it relates to this 269 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: latest news. You know, well, bonds of you have gotten 270 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: more into resting at these higher at these higher rates, 271 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean with equities again, you have seen a nice 272 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: run up on some of the growth areas, So starting 273 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: to take advantage of that little pop and trim a 274 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: little bit there, especially if you haven't already done so 275 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: adding more to the value side of someone's portfolio. And 276 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: with fixed income, you know, we're we're up one call 277 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: it one at a quarter on the egg so far 278 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: this year. And I was looking at my screen today 279 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: and pretty much fixed income anywhere in on mutual founder 280 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: et f land is up anywhere from call at one 281 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: to three um, not including high yield. But the biggest 282 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: change there, quite honestly, is you don't have to get 283 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: to get too fancy and fixed income when treasury bills 284 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: are paying you know, four and a half five percent 285 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: and money markets are paying four percent. 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