1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: My guest. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 2: So your fears, son your fears, let me a little 3 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 2: background on I say at the very top of the show. 4 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: Financial advisor and Global Sports and Entertainment Director with Morgan Stanley. 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: She began working in the financial services industry in two 6 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: thousand did She joined Bank of America Merrill Lynch in 7 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: two thousand and six. So if you're ha any phone 8 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: calls that you want to make, this is the time 9 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: to make those phone calls, she assists. Transitioned to Morgan Stanley. Well, 10 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: she is one of the one of the fewer than 11 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: two percent of Morgan Stanley's Financial Advisor to obtain their 12 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Global Sports and Entertainment Director of destination as of January 13 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: of this year. Please work with the Money Making Conversation masterclass. 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: Sonya fears, How are you doing to sign your good evening? 15 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 3: Good evening, Rashan, thank you for helping me? 16 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: Well, well, thank you. 17 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 4: Well. 18 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: You know I think that with gas prices, you know, 19 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: in some areas going over five dollars, a lot of 20 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: people want to know what's going on with their money. 21 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: I guess do you get Are you getting the phone 22 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: calls that you're getting now different from the phone calls 23 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: that you got during the pandemic. 24 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: They are and the reason being the reason why they're different. 25 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 3: Of course, you know we we had the. 26 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 5: Pandemic and and and then we had unrest and you 27 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 5: know with with police and and now we have a war, and. 28 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 3: The tensions in Russia and Ukraine for a lot of 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: us is different. And so people are nervous. There's a 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: lot of anxiety, and the calls, although similar, because there 31 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 3: were anxieties there, these anxieties are unknown for a lot 32 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: of people, so they are a little different. 33 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, because our reason. You canna say that, because did 34 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 2: you look at television? It's let me just answer myself 35 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: the question to myself. For instance, when when the Civil 36 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: Wars was here, when the George Floyd situation, the pandemic 37 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: was here, when I walked down my front door, I 38 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: had to deal with either wearing a mask or not 39 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: going out in the front door, I had to deal 40 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: with worrying about the police, the police where they when 41 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: they stopped me, because I will stop several times. One 42 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: was because my tag was expired. I was nervous. Whereas 43 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: the war, I can just turn the TV off. I 44 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: can ignore it in the sense even though it's going on. 45 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: But that ignoring still doesn't mean it's not impacted me. 46 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: Because my gas I went to fill up yesterday and 47 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: I looked down it was like five dollars and thirteen 48 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: cents because I used premium gas in my car, and 49 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: I was like stunned. 50 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this is ridiculous because. 51 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: On TV they only give you the lowest priced gas, 52 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: the regular premium. That the regular gas is so but 53 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: there's gas out there in some places five and six 54 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: dollars a gallon. 55 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: But in time, that also. 56 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: Tells people who because you deal with people on retirement accounts, 57 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: you deal with people who don't know if they should 58 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: take their money in or redirect their money. And were 59 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: always talking about closing the black wealth gap, So you 60 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: have a lot of questions that come in you. The 61 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: first question I'm gonna ask you, what is the wealth gap? 62 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: The black wealth gap? Is there any possibility that being 63 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: closed in my generation? And if so, how can that 64 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: be achieved? 65 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: That's an excellent question. It's something that you hear a 66 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: lot more younger people talk about, which which is very 67 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: very encouraging to me. And and really by having the 68 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: door open ones one often is the greatest component to 69 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: increase the black dollar in wealth in the black community. 70 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: Education is another way what we what we need is 71 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: more people who look like us to understand the different 72 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: components of building wealth. And and that's where we start 73 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: to really understand how you build wealth. Because when you understand, 74 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: we can work towards closing the gap, you know, having 75 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: the opportunities really to talk to youth in an engaging 76 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: way and to not only focus on finance, but promote 77 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: financial literacy so that we can shed light on the 78 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: mindset and the discipline needed to become wealthy, because it's 79 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: discipline just like the same kind of discipline that it takes. 80 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 3: And I know you're an early riser to wake up early, 81 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: to wake up early, and for those who can do 82 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: that and have the discipline to regardless of what's going on, 83 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: to get their rest so they can start early and 84 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: they can have a full day, the discipline to exercise 85 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: every day. It's the discipline to really understand and have 86 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 3: a mindset to be intentional about understanding what your money 87 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 3: can do for you and understanding what you need to 88 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: do to allow your money to work for you. 89 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: You know, when I thank you for that information, he 90 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: just told us. When you was talking your opening credits 91 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: talked about when you was at Merrill Lynch you created 92 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: the first African American mother daughter wealth management team with 93 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: your daughter. So I'm assuming that the conversations and the 94 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: approaches were different as the people you were dealing. I 95 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: want to say, in your age group or the group 96 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: that came to you for financial advice and the group 97 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: that came to her for financial advice, what was the 98 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: Was there any common denominators or they were just extreme 99 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: people looking for extreme different different approaches to their financial strategies. 100 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 3: So the common denominator and that's what you see now, 101 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: and that's why I'm encouraged about the wealth gap closing 102 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 3: is the fact that people that are my age, or 103 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: people that are looking towards retirement or putting together an 104 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: estate plan, or people that are my daughter's age, they 105 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: all want and need guidance. You know. That's that's the 106 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: common denominator. People that don't do this every day and 107 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: is not investing people's money and not putting together financial 108 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 3: plans for people so that they have that guide to 109 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: help them through life and not have to worry about it. 110 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: They really don't know, you know. So we we have physicians, 111 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: and we have athletes, and we have business owners, and 112 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: they they are very good at what they do, but 113 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: they don't do this every day. And if they don't 114 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: do this every day, they don't really have that roadmap 115 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: at their fingertips to help guide them through knowing what 116 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: their numbers are and knowing that based on the seven 117 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: life priorities, what the numbers look like, that will make 118 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: that retirement plan successful. And so that's a common denominator 119 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: that young or middle age or older need the knowledge 120 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: and need the guidance to be able to fulfill their 121 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: goals and have an effective plan towards building wealth. 122 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 6: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations master 123 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 6: Class with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making 124 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 6: Conversations master Class with Rashaan McDonald. 125 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: Sonya, where are more minorities involved in in stock activity? 126 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: And I thought about it, of course while you are 127 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: on the break and why are people sitting on the 128 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: sidelines as you ask, And I think it's important for 129 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: a lot of people to identify while they're nervous. So 130 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: we know there's a lot of anxiety now because of 131 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: the tension with Russia and Ukraine, but from there, you 132 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: know people identifying why they're nervous. They need to look 133 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: at the intended use of their assets and what they 134 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: plan to invest in. And if you're clear on your 135 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: goals and you're confident on your timeline, and you understand 136 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: that there are highs and lows in investing, you really 137 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: should be fine. A lot of people are nervous because 138 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: they don't know and they're not being prepared. And so 139 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: working with a financial professional, so you understand that the 140 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: market has hebs and blows and that over the past 141 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: one hundred years, and you can physically look at the 142 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: charts and look at all of the many crisises that's 143 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: occurred over the past eighty to one hundred years and 144 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 3: understand that even though those crisises occurred, the market still 145 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: went up. And so really understanding I think that will 146 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: take away some of the nervousness and really being prepared 147 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: I think will help people. 148 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 6: Now. 149 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: In terms of why minorities are not in the stock market, 150 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: I really don't think that's necessarily the case anymore. I 151 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: really see a lot more minorities getting into investing, but 152 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: working with the financial professional, not as many. You hear 153 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: about a lot of younger folks now they're getting involved 154 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: with cryptocurrency, or they want to start investing, or you know, 155 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 3: they have a Disney stock and things like that. So 156 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: I think it's changing. It's just that we need to 157 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: get more involved and get to our goal where we 158 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: have a predominant amount of us involved in investing. 159 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: I ask you this question, so as you say the 160 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 2: word cryptocurrency, I've had experts on my show talking about cryptocurrency, 161 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: talking about bitcoin, talking about stocks. Does cryptocurrency and bitcoin 162 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: that fall in your will house? 163 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: So many brokerage firms, including Mortgage Stanley, really shy away 164 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: from offering cryptocurrencies to our clients. Neil, We were actually 165 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: the first brokerage firm on Wall Street to offer bitcoin 166 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 3: on our platform. But you have to be an accredited 167 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 3: investor to be able to buy it. So for us, 168 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: you have to have a million dollars with us, and 169 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: the minimum you can put in it is fifty thousand. 170 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 3: And again we set the criteria very high because the 171 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: potential for loss is tremendous, so is the potential for gain. 172 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: But that volatility. A lot of people that have, you know, 173 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: their retirement funds, we discourage them from putting that into it. 174 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: You have to have significant disposable asset before we would 175 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: encourage that. 176 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: Well, okay, and so that means that that let me 177 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: just slow it down because you know, a million dollars 178 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: you probably got a lot of people hung up on 179 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: my shoulder right there. 180 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: I can't even listen to this guy. I don't have 181 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: a million dollars, you. 182 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: Know, because of the fact that you know, we're talking about, 183 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: you know, investing. And so they say, I got a 184 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: small amount of money, I want to invest a small 185 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: amount of money. 186 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: Is it worth it? 187 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: And let me ask that question because you know, as 188 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 2: a child, you know to just put twenty dollars in 189 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: a bank, put one hundred dollars in the bank. What 190 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: is a starting point for investing or savings and creating 191 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: a relationship with a person like you or should we 192 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: just go to an app like a robin Hood type 193 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: app type did you get started? Can they come to 194 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: you with a small amount of money to invest and 195 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: start their their their road, their journey to financial success? 196 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: And so I want to say that yes, you can 197 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 3: start with a small amount of money to invest. The 198 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: criteria and I give this to clients across the board 199 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: children of my clients. We have to start with savings, right, 200 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 3: and for a young adult that's starting out and they're 201 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: looking to buy their own, their first car and potentially 202 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: save to get their first home. Do you have an 203 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: emergency fund? You know? I always start there. And the 204 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: criteria to establish an emergency fund. If you're single, it's 205 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: six months times your monthly expenses, your electric, your rent, 206 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: your gas, your whatever. Your monthly expenses are six times 207 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: that amount, that should be your emergency fund. If you're 208 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: married or you're a couple, is three times your monthly 209 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: expensive So once you've establish is your emergency fund, then 210 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: the monies that you have left over, that's what you 211 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: use to invest. And you start where you are. And 212 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: if it's one hundred dollars a month, that's where you start. 213 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: And if it's a thousand or five thousand, that's where 214 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: you start. But I definitely encourage at any level you 215 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: should start. 216 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 2: Okay, cool, I think they back on, but I think 217 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: they've rejoined me. The one hundred dollars they rejoined me 218 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: so good. I can see that the phones are lighting 219 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: up now. But you know, you know, the fun the 220 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: fun part about I got all these you know, got 221 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: these people on TV screaming about stock. They got these 222 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: different shows talking about the stock market going. 223 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: Up, going down. 224 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: And you know what is what is a term hot stock? 225 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: What is what is is that a term that's being 226 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: used on television only or that term is used within 227 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: your in your framework of doing business, the word hot stock? 228 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: You know, I get that all the time. You know, 229 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: I go out and people here and understand what I do, 230 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 3: and they're asking, you know, for a trip or to 231 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: you know, what are the hot stocks that I should 232 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: invest in? And I mean it's not a bad question, right, 233 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: but you know, I have to tell them that our 234 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: team primarily focuses on longer term investing, right, so we 235 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: don't necessarily recommend a stock or two for short term purchase. 236 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: Nor will we recommend just one or two for a portfolio. 237 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: You know, it's all about asset allocation. And if you 238 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 3: are starting if you're starting out and you cannot diversify 239 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: across different sectors. You know, so there are eleven different sectors, 240 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: you may not benefit from one or two stocks because 241 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 3: if those one or two two stocks go down, then 242 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: you've lost all your money, right, you know, So we 243 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: recommend instead of picking that one or two that you 244 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: look at an SMP index and you put your money 245 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: in that index fund. And so an index fund like 246 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: that tracks the s and P five hundred, all of 247 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: the major companies in the US in the sm P 248 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: five hundred. So that would be the recommendation for someone 249 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: versus one or two individuals. 250 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: And that's somebody showed how you doing sell y'all? Hear 251 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: you work? What's the hot stock? Not even tied to 252 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: your account. 253 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: They just want to want some advice and run around 254 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: the corner and open up their little app and just 255 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: start buying based on what you might recommend. And that's 256 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: the that's the danger of being in a professional environment 257 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: in a non professional environment. 258 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: But I know that. 259 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: You know, I've been involved personally investing ever since my 260 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: early thirties and and as I've gotten older. You know, 261 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: different people I've talked to have advised me, Okay, do 262 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: you want to be aggressive? 263 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: Do you want to be a moderate? Or you want 264 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: to be conservative? 265 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: And that's those the sectors you're talking about, are those 266 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: the way how you want to spend your money based 267 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: on your age. 268 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: So that's risk tolerance, veerant, aggressive, and people have to 269 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: understand their risk tolerance. Okay, So if you're the kind 270 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: that you can go to Vegas and get on the 271 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: the what is that will call you're you're you're putting 272 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: all your chips on black all right, right right? 273 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: Right there you go? There you go. 274 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: Then then you're aggressive, You're willing to take chances, and 275 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 3: you know, you just want to go with it. And 276 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 3: so someone like that would invest in one hundred percent equities, 277 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 3: one hundred percent stocks. You are more conservative, right and 278 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: you're only on that penny slot machine or that slot machine. 279 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: You're really conservative slot machine, I'll tell you right, you know. 280 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: So then we want to put more fixed income in 281 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: your portfolio, right, and then we want to put less 282 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 3: stocks or equities in your portfolio. But the sectors that 283 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: we're talking about are the different sectors that covers the market, 284 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: you know. So we have construction and materials, we have industrials, 285 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 3: we have healthcare, we have reach is a sector now, 286 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: and so that's what I'm talking about technology. 287 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: Okay, cool, well, Sadia. We have a call there from 288 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: Dave and Buckhead. Hey, Dave, how are you doing? 289 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 7: Hey, I'm doing pretty good. I'm doing pretty good. Dave. 290 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 2: We have Sonia Fears on the call. She's from Morgan 291 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: stan Lea is one of the financial advisors on the show. 292 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: You have a question for her, Yeah, thanks for putting 293 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: me through. 294 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 7: You know, when I turned my radio down, I caught 295 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 7: the piece of information that Sonya was passing on about 296 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 7: Penny Investors, and I was like, yeah, you know, I 297 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 7: got all excited. But you know, my my question was 298 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 7: really really geared towards say, a person who's middle age 299 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 7: or uh, you know that has some investments in in 300 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 7: in the stock market, you know, with particular and particular stock. 301 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 4: But then more so. 302 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 7: I thought about, you know, the beginning of the conversation 303 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 7: where you both were talking about how that information is 304 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 7: funneled down and I hate to use that word loosely, 305 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 7: but it's true in my case, funneled down about financial knowledge, training, 306 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 7: understanding how money works. You know, those resources unfortunately weren't 307 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 7: really available to me, you know. And so so having 308 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 7: said all that, you know, in terms of why black people, 309 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 7: uh are are I guess low end users of these services, 310 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 7: I think are because in my case, like I would 311 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 7: probably want to see an investment come uh quicker than 312 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 7: what I'm I think what I'm hearing is more long term? 313 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 7: Would you say that that's true? Like stocks, there are 314 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 7: more long term investments when you're dealing with somebody like 315 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 7: your fears, right, what you're what you're teaching. 316 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: Out and it's not just and thank you for that, 317 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 3: and thank you, you know, for even pointing out that 318 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 3: you're you're in the market, and and and that the 319 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: the information gets funneled down, you know, so for and 320 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: I want to start there, you know. So for a 321 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 3: lot of us are a lot of people that say, 322 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: I don't know anything about investing, I don't know anything 323 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 3: about the stock market. And I have to use myself 324 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: for as an example. My husband gets on me all 325 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: the time. He said, well, if you don't understand, right, 326 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 3: don't to just google it up and look it up. 327 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: The information is out there now, right, and so all 328 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 3: of us we can google it, we can look it 329 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 3: up online, and so it's much more available. And so 330 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: that's the thing I want to encourage people. You start googling, 331 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 3: you start looking up information, you start searching for financial seminars, 332 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: because there's a lot of free education out there on 333 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: investing and on the market. And so that's what people 334 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 3: need to start looking for the information and trying to 335 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 3: get the knowledge. That's where it starts. 336 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 6: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 337 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 6: with Rashaan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations 338 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 6: Masterclass with Rashaan McDonald. 339 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: Dave said something that I wouldn't say struggle nerve with me, 340 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: but it did you know about giving somebody your money 341 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: and then trying to get it back with the showing 342 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: shawing wrap bit a rapid increase in their money. Because 343 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: that's always the sentiment that you feel when you watch 344 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: the stock market, that people just put in money and 345 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 2: they get money back and they are happy and they celebrate. 346 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: That's the false sense of how stock the stock market 347 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: actually works. 348 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: Correct. 349 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: It really is what And I'm so glad you brought 350 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: that back up because that's that's a very important point 351 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 3: that Dave brought up and question that he asked. So 352 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 3: in terms of returning on your investment. Again, once you're 353 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: educated and you're comfortable, and you have your savings and 354 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: you're willing to get into the market, you have to 355 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: understand that you can't time the market right. So if 356 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: you invested say October or even November of last year, 357 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 3: we all heard that the markets were at all time highs, right, 358 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 3: and people are thinking, oh, a lot of people are 359 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 3: making money in the market. This is the time to 360 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: get in, right, So you get in. Then the market 361 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 3: are at all time highs. And so when it's at 362 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: all time highs, there's only one place for it to go, 363 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: and it's going to go down, right, And so we 364 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 3: were saying at the end of last year, we are 365 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: overdue for a correction in the market. We're overdue for 366 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 3: ten at least ten to fifty percent correction in the market. 367 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 3: We knew that. And so when you try to time 368 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 3: the market, you put your money in and you think 369 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 3: that by yeah, by March or you know, February next year, 370 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 3: I'm going to be rich because the market is at 371 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 3: all time highs. And you look at the market now 372 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 3: that that was down eight hundred points yesterday, and if 373 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 3: people are looking at their four to one case or 374 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 3: their retirement it's down significant. So this is the time 375 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 3: and this is where you know it's so you always 376 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 3: and this is something that we learn. 377 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 6: You go. 378 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 3: It's a contrarian theory. They said, you always go against 379 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: public sentiments because when the market is like this and 380 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: it's down so significantly, and there's all this volatility. People 381 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: are scared and they don't want to get in because 382 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 3: they say, oh, I'm going to lose all my money. 383 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 3: This is the time to get in. It is not 384 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 3: the time to get in when it's at all time 385 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: has because it's already gone up. 386 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: Wow. 387 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 3: So that's the thing, and it can happen overnight. You 388 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 3: have to be willing to leave it in there and 389 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 3: wait till next year. 390 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: This time, I want to get a call in right quick. 391 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 2: I know, at the end of the show. But Cynthia, 392 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 2: as she called in, sent there from Atlanta, how are 393 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 2: you doing? 394 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: Saent there? You have a question for Sonya. 395 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 4: Fears, Yes, I do. I want to just find out. 396 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 4: So I'm a middle aged person heading close to sixty. 397 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 4: My children are grown and gone now, and I'm wondering 398 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 4: is it too late to start? If not, where do 399 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 4: I start? 400 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 3: It is definitely definitely not too late. And if you're 401 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: saying you're close to sixty one, do you have a 402 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 3: financial plan? And two, I mean you're close to sixty 403 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 3: and we anticipate that you're going to live till ninety 404 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 3: ninety five. 405 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 5: That's thirty years. 406 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 3: Of investing and being in the market. And if we 407 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: put monies in the market now, regardless of how much 408 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: it is, I can show you and model out for 409 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: you what that would do for you in thirty years. 410 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: It's never too late. And so where you start. 411 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: Cynthia, I don't think Cynthio was ready for that. 412 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: I think centens, like really, Cithy didn't know you're gonna 413 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: live in ninety five. 414 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: See see you shocked her right there, Cince ninety five. 415 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: She knows something I don't know. 416 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: And if I gotta start, I gotta start investing, I 417 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: gotta get with my fold one k these. 418 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: Kids, right you know, she rather. 419 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: Is rather, she's ready to retire, she's ready to go something. 420 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: But she wasn't ready to hear she gonna live in 421 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: ninety five. I'm just let you know right right now, 422 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: signing that shocked her. She got real quired. She said, 423 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: ninety five. 424 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: Man, I'm invested in the stock market at ninety five. 425 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: But that's what I try to tell on this show, 426 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 2: because people they set age limit and age restrictions on 427 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: what they can do and what they're supposed to do. 428 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: Because at sixty, you're not retiring. You just living. 429 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: You continue to keep dreaming, keep investing in vacations, keep 430 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: investing in yourself more importantly, because what happens is when 431 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: you stop dreaming, when you stop investing in yourself, then 432 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: guess what it affects you physically? Mentally, you have no motivation. 433 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: So when you get the ninety five, you look ninety five, 434 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 2: you walk ninety five, you have ninety five year old money, 435 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: which usually if you didn't invest, you have nothing. And 436 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: so that means she's telling anybody who's listening, do not 437 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 2: think there's an age limbit. If you seventy you can 438 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: still invest. If you're eighty, you can still invest. But 439 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: it's the different approach to the investment, the different approach 440 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: to what you're trying to get out of it. What 441 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: is your financial plan? What is your angle? So Cynthia, 442 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: she's telling you, yes, you can continue it. 443 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 3: So Cynthia, give me a call so we could talk 444 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 3: about what you can do. 445 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 4: Yes, sounds great, There. 446 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: You go sit see Citia. We revived Cynthia. 447 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: She probably gonna go shopping now, she said, ninety five, 448 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 2: I gotta buy some new clothes. I know we have 449 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: like a couple of minutes left. I want to squeeze 450 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: in one question. Dividends stocks that have dividends tied to 451 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: it is that advantageous. 452 00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you find these days that you get more income 453 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 3: from dividends than you do from bonds, from the yield 454 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: and bonds. So traditionally a lot of people invested in 455 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: bonds or fixed income because they would get income. That's 456 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: why it's called fixed income. They would get a set 457 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 3: amount of income from bonds. And the world's changed. Where 458 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: you get income these days is from stocks, dividend pain stocks, 459 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: and you can earn more income annually from dividend pain 460 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: stocks these days from them fixed income and bonds. 461 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to tell you, Sonya, and you are 462 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: are amazing. I hope you find time to come back 463 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: on money making conversations, masterclass. I know for a fact 464 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: you change Cynthia's life. Okay, she's gonna live eighty five. 465 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 2: And Dave, now he's going to get off the penny 466 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: slot machine and realize that the money's not going to 467 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 2: come back tomorrow. It's going to come back over May 468 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 2: well six month period. But more important, you told everybody 469 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: when the stock is on fire, eight wait because it's 470 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 2: gonna calm down. 471 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: And when it calms down, slide down. 472 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 2: Catch it on the slide down, don't catch it on 473 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: the go up, because the go up is when you 474 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 2: want your money to been been put in at the 475 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: slide down. And so again I want to thank you 476 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: for taking the time of coming on Money Making Conversations 477 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: master Class. And again you were fantastic. And next time, 478 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: bring your daughter, bring your daughter on, come in studio real. 479 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 3: Okay, absolutely, it was my absolute pleasure. Sean, thank you 480 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 3: so much for having me on. 481 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: I appreciate it.