1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Ron and Nannien. I had a phone call at the shop. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Young a youngster. Everybody's a youngster and me nowadays, well 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: it could have been more than eighteen or nineteen. And 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: he's calling me up because his cars in the driveway 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: and he's got a flat and he didn't have a 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: clue had a change of flat tires. Taking the car doctor, 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: we gotta get back to basics because cars are just 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: getting away. He too complicated, and we've got to be 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: able to do some of the basic things ourselves. I 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: think it would. I think it would help us and 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: educate us and help us feel better overall. Welcome to 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor. 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: Since nine this is where car owners the world overturned 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If you're 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: a mechanics, giving you a busy signal, pick up the 16 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: phone and call in the garage. Doors are open, but 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls at eight five, 18 00:00:53,680 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: five six, and now he running. You know, I was 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: thinking about a call from last hour. If you were 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: here for it, then you heard it um with regard 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: to start stop technology and and the implications of that. 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: And I went back again, and I just it's such 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: a fascinating website Auto batteries dot com, and I was 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: reading there again, uh, some of the reference information, and 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: they made a point that I hadn't picked up on 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: to elaborate to talk to you about, and that is that, 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the differences in batteries. How 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: about the differences in battery chargers and the fact that 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: certain batteries require certain types of chargers, and you've got 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: to make sure you're using the right charger for that battery, 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: whatever it is you're you're trying to charge. So don't 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: assume that you know, if you if you end up 33 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: with a dead battery. And it seems like, you know, 34 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: batteries have been a problem. We've seen battery sales at 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: the shop in the last eight nine months go through 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: the roof because so many cars have been sitting as 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: a result of the pandemic, and uh, you know, cars 38 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: aren't getting driven, and then it seems like we're not 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: having to travel as much. Everybody's working from home. Uh, 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: dead batteries, batteries that need to be charged, all sorts 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: of battery issues. Don't assume that the vehicle that you know, 42 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: as in your driveway has a standard wet flooded battery 43 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: that it may be something else, and um, you know 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: you've got to identify at Auto Batteries dot Com will 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: help you do that, um, and can also talk to 46 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: you or explain to you the differences in batteries and 47 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: a lot of good reference information there. So get out 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: the auto Batteries dot Com. That's my opening thought this 49 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: hour as we kick off this hour of the car Doctor. 50 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't help, but I just I you know, I 51 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about I'm going God, how did I miss 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: such a simple thing? Um? You know, not all battery 53 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: chargers are created equal and different batteries, different kinds of chargers, 54 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: different ways to test them. Um. Just some real good 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: solid information out there, So go enjoy, sit down with 56 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: a cup of coffee and spend an hour. Let's let's 57 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: wander over to Nate in Michigan. Let's get the garage 58 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: doors open right away. We've got a busy hour, and 59 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: let's see what's going on here Nate. Welcome aboard, sir. 60 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: How can I help ei there? I was wanting to 61 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: pick your brain a little bit. Everybody keeps talking about 62 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: going with electronic or electric vehicles, and I was wondering 63 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: what your thoughts are about why nobody's really pressed to 64 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: get better gas mileedge on vehicles lately within the last 65 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: few years. I mean, granted has been major improvements, but 66 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean you got cars from the seventies that you know, 67 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: with car buretors and big V eights that aren't getting 68 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: much better than you know, or seventeen traverse or you know, 69 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: for for example, you know, I had a Geo spectrum 70 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: and eighty nine spectrum the guy upper thirties, low forties, 71 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: and I've got a seventeen focus that it's it basically 72 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: gets thirty five and great nowadays. But and I've got 73 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: to tell you, Nate, and they're all good points. I've 74 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: got to tell you my wife's eighteen Explorer XL T. Yeah, 75 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: there's no other way to say it. It's a pig 76 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: on gas. God, I can't pass a gas station without 77 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: having to stop to put gas. And it's just but 78 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's a nice, big, comfortable vehicle. I bet 79 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: it's get and I've never really checked it, but I 80 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: bet it's getting fifteen sixteen to the gallon around town. 81 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: And you know, it's just it's it's not what you 82 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: would expect. Now that's a non turbocharged explorer, and I 83 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: think that has something to do with it. But I 84 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: didn't want the burden of maintaining a turbo for the 85 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: life of the vehicle. But you make some good points 86 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: now my understanding, And again we're talking a couple of 87 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: laymen here, right, we don't have any real facts in 88 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: front of us, because where do you get real facts 89 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: from these days? How do you know who to believe anymore? 90 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: But you know, my understanding is they want to go 91 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: to electric vehicles, not so much for gas mileage, not 92 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: for fuel economy because I think, you know, I look 93 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: at fuel economy on vehicles today and I think certain 94 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: vehicles can get such good fuel economy that we've we've actually, 95 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: you know, we we we we controlled the market in 96 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: a way, right, we dictated what the price of oil 97 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: should be because there the demand went down and I 98 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: realized there was a lot of factors. There's a lot 99 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: of factors that you know, predicate and dictate what makes 100 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: gasoline prices what they are. But I think our technology 101 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: has gotten to the point where we can sort of 102 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: control it by better fuel economy. I think the electric car, 103 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: the bocle is being revved up, so to speak, because 104 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: they you know, it's it's it's pollution, it's they can't 105 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: get the vehicle to run any cleaner. Um, My question is, 106 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: and this is where I sort of stumble on the 107 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: whole electric car thing, beyond the fact that I don't 108 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: think they've thought it through or maybe they don't care 109 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: about who's gonna fix it, repair it, maintain it. You know, 110 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: how is the average layman you know here we'll jump 111 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: to this. Do you know somebody like this, Nate? You know, 112 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: maybe they're they're struggling, you know, paycheck to paycheck, and 113 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: and they're always looking for a cheap car. You know, 114 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: everybody's always looking for a cheap five eight dollar used car. Right, 115 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: you must know somebody like that, Right, What are they 116 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: gonna do with electric vehicles? There is no such thing 117 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: or is there? Are we going to create that? Is 118 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 1: there gonna be a five thousand dollar used electric vehicle 119 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: that's gonna be cheap and reliable for that single mom 120 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: with three kids and a moron for a husband, that 121 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: she can run them back and forth to the supermarket 122 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: as a cashier and maintain her job. You know, is 123 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: that not going to be because because he's stupid expensive 124 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: and had electronic forklist for years and to replace those 125 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: I've been in that market. There's thousands of dollars. They're 126 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: gonna be costing more than this this vehicle's worth, right, 127 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: And what's gonna happen? Why don't we try to make 128 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: this technology that we got better these you know? Why 129 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: don't we try to make these vehicles more feel efficient 130 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: rather than trying to recreate the wheel per se? Well, 131 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: I think because it comes back to somebody's somewhere, there's 132 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: an engineer that's got proof, because I've got a hope 133 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: that we're doing this scientifically, that will say, well, we've 134 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: got proof that the electric vehicle, you know, zero emissions 135 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: vehicle is easier on the environment. I think that is 136 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: the argument. But yet, and boy, I'm going to generate 137 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: some phone calls and emails from this comment. You can't 138 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: get me to believe that the electricity we need to 139 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: power the electric vehicle doesn't come from a fossil fuel generator. Uh, 140 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: you know where are we going to generate the electricity from? Solar, wind, turbine, nuclear? 141 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's you know, and I can't get 142 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: a clear cut answer on that. So if if they're 143 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: gonna tell me that we're gonna do this from a 144 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: non fossil fuel way of generating electricity, then yeah, electric 145 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 1: vehicles are great and hopefully the price does come down. 146 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: But I I think, and I shouldn't say this because 147 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: that isn't what this show is about, but boys, sometimes 148 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: cars get political, and sometimes it is just such a 149 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: large part of society. I think they're gonna really try 150 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: and divide the classes. I think, you know, the lower 151 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: income class is going to disappear, the middle class is 152 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: gonna struggle, and the those that can afford an electric 153 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: vehicle and don't care what it costs, they're gonna thrive 154 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: because it's gonna be their market. Somebody's got to show 155 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: me an electric vehicle that's gonna meet the masses and 156 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: have the peel. You know what car company makes sense. 157 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: I'll jump ahead a little bit, Nate Toyota makes sense sometimes, 158 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: and yeah, I can I bash and I beat up 159 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: Toyota like I trobably bash and beat up all of 160 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: them because they all have their moments of stupidity. But 161 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: you know what, Toyota has something for everybody. They have 162 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: something for the kid just out of college. They have 163 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: something for the person just trying to find, you know, 164 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: a set of wheels to go back and forth to work. 165 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: That's just you know, struggling paycheck to paycheck. They have 166 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: that person that's doing well. You know, GM does too, Ford, 167 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: And I think this is a stupid move on Ford's 168 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: part is getting away from cars, right. They don't make 169 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: cars anywhere. The only vehicle they're gonna make only car 170 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna make a Mustang. Everything else is gonna be trucks. 171 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: I was at the local Ford dealer and I saw 172 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: that new Ford Escape, the one that's below the escape. 173 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: I forget what it's called. I mean, that thing is 174 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: so small you have to step outside to change your mind. 175 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't see how that thing will survive on on 176 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: a road next to an eighteen wheeler. If anteen wheeler 177 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: lets out, it's breaks, that car is gonna you know, 178 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: shift lanes. Um, it might run and hide under the overpass. Uh. 179 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: You know, show me how electric vehicles are gonna be 180 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: equal to the masses like that? And I you know, 181 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: it's all conjecture at this point, because hey, GM by 182 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: five four by Jaguar by We're all gonna have all 183 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: electric vehicles. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be beautiful. 184 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: It's like that line. And the god not the Godfather. 185 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: Remember Good Fellas, Remember when Henry left his wife and 186 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: Paulie and uh and um. I can't think of Robert 187 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: de Niro's character's name when he showed up at at 188 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: Henry's house and he said, hey, you go to Florida 189 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: and I'll go talk to Karen and she'll come back 190 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: to you. And everything's gonna be beautiful, all right. I 191 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: I think that's the way it's gonna work. Hey, everybody's 192 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: gonna have an electric vehicle and everything's gonna be beautiful. 193 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: They're not gonna tell you how they're doing it yet, though, 194 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: are they? And and and that's beautiful. It's not gonna 195 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: be beautiful. It's it's not beautiful. Now, all right, I'll 196 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: tell you a quick story and then I'm gonna go. 197 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: I got it. I got shops around me, and you know, 198 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: I work with them and do different things for them 199 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: and with them. And one fellow has got an alignment rack. 200 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: And I called him the other day and I said, hey, 201 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: does your alignment rack compensate for you know, AIDS, the 202 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: Advanced Driver Assist System. He didn't know. Now he's had 203 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: the it's a state of the art alignment rack. He's 204 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: had the RACK for four years, three years. He didn't know. 205 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: He's not embracing the technology. He's just hoping the machine is. 206 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: He didn't know what I was talking about. I could tell. 207 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: And you know the difference between an alignment with AIDS 208 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: Advanced Driver Assist and an electric vehicle is you know, 209 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: my god, we're going from the biplane to the space shuttle. 210 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: And I used that term so much, I've overused it, 211 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: but I don't know any other way to explain it. 212 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: And now we're about to take a leap. We're gonna 213 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: go from the Apollo eleven spacecraft to Star Trek literally 214 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: all right. You know that's the only analogy I can 215 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: come up with. And we're not prepared. We don't have 216 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: the technology, we don't have the skill set in the industry, 217 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: you know. And you explain to me it don't get 218 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: me going. You explain to me how the young kids 219 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: at Lincoln Tech and U t I and Dover Diesel 220 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: and all the other trade schools that are going to school, Right, 221 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, the average trade school is twenty five thousand dollars. 222 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: And you explain to me how you're gonna take a 223 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: kid eighteen years old twenty five thousand dollars to go 224 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: to trade school. And then he's got to come out 225 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: and he's got to go work for somebody, and usually 226 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: they land in a dealership, but maybe they'll go to 227 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: an independent shop. And he goes into that repair shop 228 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: and he's got to put thirty to forty dollars out 229 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: for a toolbox and tools, all right, that he is 230 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: likely going to have to reinvest and duplicate in four 231 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: to five years time. You tell me how you're gonna 232 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: get innvince a kid for the next fifteen years. Hey, 233 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: come work on internal combustion engines. And then when electric 234 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: cars at here, Hey, you know, you're either out of 235 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: a job, you're out of a career, or we'll retrain you. 236 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: And what will that cost and who is going to 237 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: pay for it? And how is it going to be 238 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: paid for? But we're gonna have electric vehicles because as 239 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: they said in Good Fellas, everything is going to be beautiful. 240 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, and Nate, I gotta go calm down, 241 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: let me pull over and take a pause. I'll be 242 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: back right after this. Whether it's a little red Corvette 243 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: or you go, you've come to the right place to 244 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: get that car fixed. Ron Andy in the Car Doctor 245 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: five zero zero zero. Now back to Ron. You know 246 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: what I love most about this radio show is I'm 247 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: looking at the Facebook feed. You've got the run nating 248 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor on Facebook, and we've got the 249 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: live video streaming through Facebook during the show's live hours. 250 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: And Helen only God bless her. She's up there expressing 251 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: her soul about what she does and doesn't understand about cars, 252 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: and I love that. I love that she just puts 253 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: it right on the line, and the listeners respond to 254 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: her and they're explaining things to her. The rest of 255 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor Nation is I like to think of you, guys, 256 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: and you know what I give you, guys, Hats off 257 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: to you. I give you, guys, applause because you're taking 258 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: care of each other and you see, that's what we 259 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: need in order for electric cars to succeed, and the 260 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: way it's being presented, that's not happening. So all your 261 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: comments on Facebook, I agree with guys. Yes, sir, did 262 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: you go sit out in the snow bank during the 263 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: commercial breaks so you don't set the studio on fire, 264 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: because having the smoke alarm go off during the show 265 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: would not be good. I'm telling you, Tom, it's you 266 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna stop being a nice guy and 267 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: calling it like it is because it's just it's just ludicrous. 268 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: All of this stuff is insane, you know. And I've 269 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: got to say in a way, you know, I'm trying 270 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: not to get political. I'm trying not to, you know, 271 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: because God, first of all, you know, if we want 272 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: to talk about what's in the news just from you know, 273 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: electricity and cars, first we've got to fund a non biased, 274 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: truthful reporting news outlet because I think they're all manipulating us. 275 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: And that's just me and I probably I'll get scolded 276 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: for saying that, but you know what, I'm just, Tom, 277 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm just the nuts and bolts, down and dirty dirt 278 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: under my fingernails. Mechanics been doing at forty something years. 279 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: And you know what, I'll give you the speech I 280 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: give the Mechanics when I would hire them back in 281 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: the day. You're gonna come work for me, You're gonna 282 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: shut up, You're gonna do what I tell you to do. 283 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: When you walk out the door, you're gonna know things 284 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: that three of the population has experienced with because we're 285 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: gonna get to the root cause of why things do 286 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: what they do. But you'll understand that at the level 287 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: that a lot of guys don't. And what we do 288 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: here every day is just common sense and make sense. 289 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: And that's right, and that's what's missing in order to 290 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: repair and the way we're approaching transportation. Um, you know, 291 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: just here, Tom, you're there. I was talking to I 292 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: was talking to my friend Chris, who's a trainer for 293 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: a t G about a DOS Advanced Driver Assist systems 294 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: this morning and we were talking about it, and you know, 295 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: he brought up an interesting point. We were talking about. 296 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: You get a piece of glass replaced, you have the 297 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: windshield replaced, okay, and you use a non factory piece 298 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: of glass whatever it is for GM Chrysler, use somebody 299 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: other than the manufacturer, and you do the calibration and 300 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: the calibration is good but not but you don't know that. 301 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: And now when you take that self driving car and 302 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: steer down the road, now the car veers to the 303 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: right when it's not supposed to when you don't catch 304 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: it in time because it doesn't set a trouble code 305 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: and you don't realize that that AIDS system, that self 306 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: driving system is off calibration. Now the vehicle gets into 307 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: an accident, okay, and there's a fatality. Who's it fault? Exactly? 308 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: That is the problem right there. Who's it fault? Was 309 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: it the installer? The installer put the part in the 310 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: car that he was told to put in the car. 311 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: The insurance company approved the sale or approve the procedure. 312 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: The calibration followed the calibration that the manufacturers set out. Okay, 313 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: the vehicle passed, there was no trouble. And that's real 314 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: world scenario of what can go wrong because everything on 315 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: a car, not everything on an older car, but the 316 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: newer cars, everything is becoming cutting edge, and a lot 317 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: of the things there's there's no simple answers, there's no 318 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: simple solutions. And you had that person on last week, 319 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: or you told the story last week about the person 320 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: that had a should have been a three D and 321 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: fifty dollar windshield that became nine because of all the 322 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: calibrations required, but the insurance company only approved the three 323 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: fifty for the windshield. It's like, come on, and and 324 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen. Listen? Do you know why? 325 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: And and and this is gonna really be interesting? And 326 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: we don't really talk about this. Do you know why? 327 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: We we've kind of we'll we'll we'll get to Mark 328 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: in Tennessee. Mark, I promise we're not gonna forget about you. 329 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate your patients. You know, do you know why 330 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: they want self driving cars? What one of the other 331 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: reasons is besides zero emissions vehicles and all the other 332 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: nonsense that they feed us. Do you know what I 333 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't say nonsense? It isn't nonsense. You know what you 334 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: know why they want it? When we have If the 335 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: entire country was on self driving vehicles, guess what goes away? 336 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: M HM accidents? Uh, well in theory, in theory, but 337 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, you won't need body shops, you won't need 338 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: pain suppliers, you won't need body shops at the level 339 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: that you currently have, right because there won't be accidents 340 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: like there are now. Everything will be a self driving 341 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: car tom that will probably be more spectacular accidents Well 342 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: when they when they happen. In theory, you won't need 343 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: traffic lights. They talked out how cars are gonna be 344 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: able to go through intersections without traffic lights, just automatically 345 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: miss each other self calibrated in a perfect world. Do 346 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: I see that happening? You give me a couple of 347 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: mechanics that can spell O B D two and tell 348 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: me what AIDS means. Hey, listen, then I'll start to 349 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: believe it. But before that happens, uh, not in this lifetime. 350 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: Brother A five five zero zero zero. Ronald coming back 351 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: and we'll take phone calls. I promise right after this 352 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: Welcome back ronalding the car to docurate your service at 353 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: zero zero mark in Tennessee. The most patient in in 354 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: the world. How can I help you today, sir? That's 355 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: the thing in my car, ron I've got a two 356 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve Family. It's got the sixth zwer. That's 357 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: the sixth zwer in it, and I'm wondering about change 358 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: in the transmission fluid. We we're you know, about ninety 359 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: five thousand miles and it's an excellent car that I 360 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: haven't had any problem with it. I'd like to keep 361 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: it for a few more years, and I want to 362 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: get your input on change in the training or because 363 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: they're sticks, you know, right, So you've never done the 364 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: fluid yet at this point. Okay, um every car company's 365 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: got an achilles heel brother and trans fluid is one 366 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: of the ones that Toyota has, and they're not they're 367 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: not life threatening so to speak. It's not um uh, 368 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's not a life and death scenario, if 369 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: that makes sense. But um, let's just suffice it to 370 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: say that, uh, you know you um uh, you can 371 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: change the trans fluid, but you want to be careful 372 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: and cautious how you go about it. All right, So 373 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: understand this that the fluid trans fluid by nature is 374 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: a high detergent fluid. It's got good scrubbing action to it. Okay, 375 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: And now you've got something in here that's you know, Miles, 376 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, eight nine years old. So you're gonna take 377 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: out the old, worn out fluid and I guarantee it's 378 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: black and beat up, it's it's lost its pink, and 379 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna put fresh stuff in. So there is a danger. 380 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: There is a chance that now you're gonna put a 381 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: high scrubbing fluid in there, and it's gonna wash out 382 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: and and cause issues with the trans It's not likely 383 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: if you wanted, if you wanted our percentage, and don't 384 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 1: hold me to it, I tell you it's less than 385 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: a five chance of failure. It really depends on you, know, 386 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: is the fluid is the fluid low at this point? 387 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: Has it ever been checked? As the fluid ever been checked? 388 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: As the fluid level ever been checked? Mark? Okay, so 389 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: you know all good questions. What I would do is 390 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: I would I would change the fluid. I'm up, I'm 391 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: a gambler, all right, But I would also measure what 392 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: comes out if that fluid is at correct height, and 393 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: you could check fluid level before you drain it. But 394 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 1: I can tell you from experience, you're gonna pull about 395 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: three and a half quarts of fluid out of that, 396 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: all right, maybe three on the low side. If you 397 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: get two quarts of fluid out of that, you know 398 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: that thing has been running low for a long time, 399 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: and now you've just got to watch and be more mindful. 400 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: But I would, I would change the fluid, drain it out. 401 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: You're gonna get about three and a half courts somewhere there, 402 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: give or take minus a half a quart and fill 403 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: it back up follow the procedure. It's not hard to do. 404 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: You're gonna take out the top plug of the case 405 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: on the left side and get the vehicle warmed up, 406 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: fill it in, and it's gonna dribble out over the top, 407 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: and then you know, drive it, put five or eight 408 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it. And then when you see that 409 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: the trans reacts to that. Okay, then I'm gonna tell 410 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: you find the trans cooler lines. Disconnect them, all right, 411 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: get access to them, disconnect them, and and the one 412 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: that pushes fluid to the cooler, use that as the 413 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: dump all right, and dump that fluid into a pan 414 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: while the vehicles running, and fill the vehicle's trans through 415 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: the fill port. And what you'll end up doing is 416 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: you'll end up using the trans as your as your 417 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: cycling machine and get all the fluid out of it. 418 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: It takes a It takes somewhere between seven and eight quarts, 419 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: and it's worth the effort, it really is. It's a 420 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: little bit of a pain in the neck, but it's 421 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: worth the effort because you'll have all fresh fluid in there, 422 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: and you know the trans will react better. Do you 423 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: have any kind of shutter or any sort of you know, 424 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: when you're in, when you're doing and you step on 425 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: the trans do you ever get an indication like you're 426 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: driving over a rumble strip on the side of the road, 427 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: it looks okay, um, then it hasn't happened yet. One 428 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: of the problems with Toyota, you know, a t F 429 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: with your trans fluid, their w S their World Standard fluid, 430 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: is it starts to break down at different mileage intervals 431 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: and you'll get trans chatter, you'll get you know, trans 432 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: performance issues. So if you haven't gotten to that point, 433 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: if there are no fault codes in the trans, if 434 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: the fluid has any you know, rub it between your 435 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: thumb and four finger, if it has any what I 436 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: call lubricity or body to it, then changing it is 437 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: gonna be less likely to cause a problem then it 438 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: would be if it were not so. But you know, 439 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: I would do it in stages, is my point. I 440 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: would do just the first you know, pan drop and 441 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: then second time around. You know, if you want to 442 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: drop the pan, you know, change the screen, the filter. 443 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: It's probably a screen in twelve it's not going to 444 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: be a filter, But if you want to change that 445 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: so you get everything out of the pan, refill it, 446 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: and then do what I said with regard to you know, 447 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: the trans cooler lines and dumping it into a pan. 448 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: Um you know, you'll you'll, you'll get it all out 449 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: that way you said, put in the in the pan 450 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: and then it No, no, no, no no. What I'm 451 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about is you're gonna You're gonna find 452 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: that there should be two trans cooler lines of going 453 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: up to the bottom of the radiator. One of them 454 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: is going to be the feed from the trans. The 455 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: other one is gonna be the return, all right. You 456 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: want to find which one is the feed. The feed 457 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: will when you start the car, the fleet will the 458 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: feed will expel fluid out of it, all right. So 459 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: you want to expel fluid out, catch it in a 460 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: drain pan. While that's expelling fluid out, you want to 461 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: fill the trans through the filled port, all right. And 462 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: then that way, you know, you're basically using the trans 463 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: to cycle the fluid. And this way you're getting the 464 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: fluid out of the converter. You're getting the fluid out 465 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: of all the internal passageways. Do it do it all 466 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: at once, right, First I would first I would change 467 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: the fluid in the pan. Drive it five or eight 468 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: thousand miles, ten thousand miles, get a little mileage, let 469 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: it mix itself up, let it go through a minor cleanse, 470 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: and then I would do the cooler exchange and then 471 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: do it and then do it all, do it all drop. 472 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: What about you go to Toyota get the fluid and 473 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: the screen or do you beat this aftermarket? Um, anything 474 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: that meets WS standard, I would probably use it. I 475 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: would probably go to Toyota for the for the gasket 476 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: I like the Toyota pan gaskets better. I think they've 477 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: got a better material, um, you know. And while you're there, 478 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: you get you can get the you can get the filter. 479 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: But as far as the fluid accompanied by the name 480 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: of Idu Metsu, I believe makes the fluid for Toyota 481 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: and then rebrands it Toyota. But we use it the 482 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: Mitsu fluid in the shop all all the time, all 483 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: day long, half for years and years. Never a problem. 484 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: There's there. Stuff is right on the mark. All right. 485 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: Do you have a do you have a local Rileyota 486 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: parts by you in Tennessee somewhere? Once once you stop 487 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: down there and talk to them, tell them what you're 488 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: trying to do. You're looking for a quality trans fluid. 489 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: You're looking for a quality filter. And look at the pan, 490 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: ask it that they give you. If the pan gas, 491 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: it isn't rubber, if it's a cork like material, depending 492 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: upon what manufacturer they give you, I'd be okay with that, 493 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: all right, but um, you know I would do that. 494 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: You can also find more information obviously online at O'Reilly 495 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: otto dot com. Alright, kiddo, you're very welcome. Mark, you 496 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: take good Careen. Thanks for calling in eight five zero 497 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. The car doctor is coming back right 498 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: after this dot can welcome back while naming the car 499 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: Doctor eight five five zero zero the phone number. Let's 500 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: get over and talk to Joe in Pennsylvania. Joe Chevy van. 501 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: What's going on? Joe? How can I help? Ah? Yes, 502 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: I always suspect this van has a security problem. It's 503 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: been sitting for a couple of years of lady hadn't 504 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: and it only runs for two seconds. Yeah, I mean 505 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: it could be other things, but it's likely. Is there 506 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: a security light flashing on the dash? No, it doesn't flash, 507 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: but it's it's on. Um, have you scanned you know 508 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: you would find typically six piece six series fault codes 509 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: in it if it does have a security system fault, 510 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: because if it doesn't see proper response out of the 511 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: security passlock sensor in the steering column, it'll disable the 512 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: fuel pump and shut the vehicle down. So seconds. Yeah, 513 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: so it sounds like you're you know, you're on the track. 514 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: The vehicle have tilt column. Joe, Oh, that's a glad. Yeah, 515 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: that's why I'm that isn't that isn't why I'm asking. 516 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: Does it have a tilt steering wheel? Absolutely everything? Okay, 517 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: you may try. If you untilted, you know, tilted into 518 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: a different position, you may find that the vehicle starts 519 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: and runs because the wiring leading up to the pastlock 520 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: sensor if the person constantly used it as you know, 521 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: tilt mode, and this person put it up and this 522 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: person put it down. Think about it. You're flexing the 523 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: wire this way, you're flexing the wire that way, You're 524 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: flexing the wire this way, and eventually you cause the 525 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: wire to become frayed and loose and sometimes break. So, 526 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, it may be that untilting changing changing position 527 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: causes the vehicle to start. You may find by disconnecting, 528 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: you know, taking the column apart, you will find broken 529 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: frayed wires at the pastlock sensor as a means of 530 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, as a point of failure. And you can 531 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: do it that way, now, can't you pass it? I said, yeah, 532 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: this is a little more complicated now, and I was 533 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: just gonna say this that you can. There are more 534 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: than a few companies out there and look at you know, 535 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna go back to my electric car 536 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: rant that I was talking about earlier part of this 537 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: hour in the previous show. Um, you know, imagine that 538 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: electric vehicle in in five or ten years or who 539 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: knows when that electric vehicle will have its electrical problems? Right, Um, 540 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: you know all the little nuances security, light issues and 541 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: and and whatever. Who knows what electric vehicles are going 542 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: to develop into. Do you really worry about somebody stealing 543 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: a ninety nine Chevy conversion van at this point in 544 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: its life. No, we just wanted to use it for 545 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: a delivery van, right simple, And there's there's them bingo 546 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: and there there it is. Right. We're just looking to 547 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, make something work and utilize it and use 548 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: it up and get as much value out of it 549 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: for what it costs to build as we possibly can. 550 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: There's more than a few companies out there, Joe, that 551 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: are building bypass kits for the dreaded GM security issue. 552 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 1: And I would tell you to do your research and 553 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, go with the ones that sound like they're 554 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: the best, that they're gonna work. I believe the kids 555 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: range in price anywhere from a hundred two hundred bucks. 556 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: I've seen, so it's still it's under two hundred bucks, 557 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: and you could you could bypass the system. Now keep 558 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: in mind, we still haven't established for sure you have 559 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: a pastlock issue. A good scan tool will tell you 560 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: a by means of it's set a code. It's set 561 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: a fault code showing you that the past lack sensors 562 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: has a problem or the vehicle theft to turn VDD 563 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: PIT will show yes or no, depending upon if it's 564 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: in theft mode and disabling the vehicle from running. So 565 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, a scan tool might help here in terms 566 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: of diagnosing it. I just I would never want to 567 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: assume that it's a past luck fault unless I did 568 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of diagnosis. I know that, Yeah, I 569 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: know that, I know that sounds painful, but um, either 570 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: that you're just taking a gamble for under two hundred 571 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: bucks and installing a kitten. You know, hopefully it works, 572 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: but it may behoove you to uh you know, maybe 573 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: enscons or coax a mechanic to come out and make 574 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: a mobile visit and just do a you know, simplimentary 575 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: half hour forty minute for forty five minutes worth of 576 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: ignosis before you invest any money. And you know, and 577 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: then you got to buy the vehicle fromhere. Two right, okay, okay, 578 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: it'll run if you keep putting starting fluid and seconds right, 579 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: we're just fuel filters. Been I'm afraid it's right well 580 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: and and and you know, and again what is it? 581 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: Is it? You know it's not a fuel filter at 582 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: this point you just said that, But you know, is 583 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: it losing spark? Is it losing fuel? Do we know 584 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: what it's losing? So, Joe, it sounds like a security issue. 585 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: But if I had a bet on it, if I 586 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: had to start to invest money in this vehicle and 587 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: more time and bet on it to be certain, I 588 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: want to invest some positive money and at least, you know, 589 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: get somebody's somebody to come out that's qualified to look 590 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: at it. And uh, you know, yes, it's the security system. Now, 591 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 1: at least you know what you're working with, because, as 592 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: I understand it from your comments, you don't even own 593 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: this vehicle yet this belongs to somebody. Does she want 594 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: to sell it? And you know that's another story. So 595 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: you've got some homework to do. But it sounds like 596 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: you're on the right track. I hope I helped zero 597 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: run nading the car doctor coming back right after this 598 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,239 Speaker 1: resisting come back run nading the car doctor. Let's get 599 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: over to Scott and Vermont. Who wants to finish up 600 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 1: today with some comments on electric vehicles? Yes, go I uh, 601 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: just just a comment that nobody ever talks about with 602 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: these electric vehicles is to have the charger at your home. 603 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: It requires at least a fifty at breaker and uh, 604 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: if say you live on a street with houses and 605 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: five or ten of them have got to have, uh, 606 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, an EV charger. Uh. Electric grid boy is 607 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: gonna have trouble keeping up if they put these things 608 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: out in the numbers that they want to put them 609 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: out in. So it's just another point that they never 610 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: talked about. And many of the homes today that are 611 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: built do not have they only they're only using a 612 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: service entrance and to find you know, you've got to 613 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: go to the added expense to upgrade your electrical entrance 614 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: to handle the you know, one breaker to charge your 615 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: EVA electric vehicle. And thank you very much for your show. 616 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, Scott. I appreciate the thoughts. You know, 617 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: it's it's how about this? How about New York City? 618 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: How about California public parking garages? How are you going 619 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: to charge electric vehicles inside garages? Are you gonna rewire garages? 620 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: What's sort of a financial undertaking is that? And who's 621 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: gonna bear the brunt cost of that? Okay, uh, you 622 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: know it's it's the expense to do all of this. 623 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: It's great, you know what. We we have all these 624 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: great ideas and I'm not saying it can't be done. Listen, 625 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: Kennedy wanted to go to the moon by the end 626 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: of the decade, and we did. You know, the question 627 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: is it might have been easier to go to the 628 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: moon because at least to go to the moon, NASA 629 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: was a self contained entity that you know, came down 630 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: from the top that this is the way we're gonna 631 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: do it. Now you're gonna tell how many hundred millions 632 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: of Americans. Hey, this is the way we're gonna do it. 633 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: Everybody's got seven different opinions, and I don't think it's 634 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: gonna go smoothly. I think we're back to that old 635 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 1: comment that I made before at the beginning of the show. 636 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: You know, tell your kids to go clean their room 637 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: and see what kind of an answer you get. Because 638 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: you don't explain the ramifications of how or wire. They 639 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: don't see the value in it until we see the 640 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: value in it. I don't know that we're gonna want 641 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: to really do it. I don't know the point The 642 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: stove in your kitchen takes a fifty breaker. Okay, so 643 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: that's how much energy you're talking about, right right? Um? Yeah, 644 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: where are we going with this? Tom? Listen? Tom? You 645 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: work out in the field right telecommunications? You know, are 646 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: or do you do you see the electrical grid being 647 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: able to support all of this? There's a lot of 648 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: places where it can't support a lot of what I service, right, 649 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: So you know it's it's gonna it remains to be seen. 650 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 1: You will it happen? Hey? You know what, we walked 651 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: on the moon in sixty nine. Um, you know, I 652 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: think about this too real quick? Is that you know 653 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: O B D two has been around since ninety re 654 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: flashing computers that changes, and how many shops around me 655 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: still don't do it, still don't embrace it. And that's 656 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: why I say, as I always say to you at 657 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: this point in the show, good mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. 658 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: See you, Yeah,