1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Rick Clolepside has the first Animore up the side by 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: forty thirty twenty ten five touchdown. Jostin, there is no 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: off season for your Houston Texans. Game day is every day. No, 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: it's Texans, all Exans. Oh yes, it is good evening, 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: Hello Texans. Mark Vanderberin, John Harris with you and we're back. 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: That's right, Johnny. I've been on vacation for about five 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: and a half weeks. Anything happened I need to know about? 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Like nothing like, Oh, Senior bowls great? Oh Senior bowls good? 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: And bowls very good. Feel like Thomas Jefferson in Hamilton, 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: like what did I miss? So? What did I'm like 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: in the last five weeks or so? Did I miss anything? Anyway, 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: We're here in the Sports Radio six ten studios tonight 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: live because it is season ten of Texans Radio as 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: we know it with these during the week programs which 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: we started in twenty well twenty twelve, So this is 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: the tenth season of this stuff. And for those of 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: you remember, we started it with Tuesday shows noon to two. 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: Then we added Thursdays in a year or two later 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: six to seven, and then at some point Greg Grissom 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: decided that I wasn't working hard enough and needed to 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: work five nights. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding, five nights 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: a week, sixty seven PM. And Johnny joined the Texans 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: radio brigade in twenty fourteen. So this is our eighth 24 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: season together. Yeah, being selfish eight years all that matters 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: this eighth year. Yeah, that's right. But it's the twentieth 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: season of the Houston Texans about to begin here. You 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: know when the league year starts? What March eighteenth, right, 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: But the Super Bowl was played yesterday, so the super 29 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: bowls in the books. The offseason really kind of I 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: know it began weeks ago. Everybody making coaching changes, who 31 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: had to do that, whatever else? But yeah, this is it. Okay, 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: everybody's done. Everybody's O and O. Let's go. It's twenty 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: twenty one and the Houston Texans included seven coaching openings 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: and they were all filled. Texans last to fill it. 35 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk a bunch about the staff. Again. 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: They haven't released the rest of the staff, Johnny, and 37 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: they're not even done yet, but we can talk about 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: who's been reported to be taking over some of these positions, 39 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: like very badly kept secrets like Lovey and people like that. 40 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna be working in the building anyway. It's good 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: to see you because I know so much has happened. 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: And look, you and I talk all the time, but 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: here we are talking on the air, and it's great 44 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: to have the listeners back. And as you know, we 45 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: talk a lot about our experiences in the building, what 46 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: we do working around the with and around the team. 47 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: Just got through the COVID season, which was totally bizarre. 48 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: I just wrote a story about broadcasting a game with coronavirus, 49 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: which I hadn't gotten public with, but I just did. 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 1: It's on the website and the Texans app as well. 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: I outed you probably a few times in doing interviews 52 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: you did I don't think here I did. I did 53 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: one with my buddy Sala Capaccio in Buffalo. Actually I 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: was out of market. You were out of Yeah, I 55 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: was on a market I don't think. I don't know 56 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: if I ever did it here though, not that I 57 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: can remember. But the thing about that game was we 58 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: were all in different locations, yeah, like all of us. 59 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: You for one place, Dre was at one place. I 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: was down in my moat. Uh, huh. Robert was up 61 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: in the booth with yeah, with Um, with David. They 62 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: were up there. So when they're seated too, they're a 63 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: good twenty five feet or something. Hard. Yeah, it was. 64 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: It was nuts. I remember, and I think it was 65 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: the Packers game Packers game, because we went into to 66 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: buy the next week and I was like, thank god, 67 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: we have a buy. I was God. It was like 68 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: that in that broadcast. I mean, we got done with 69 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: it and it was like, hey, would You wouldn't really 70 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: have known, but I just remember I was immense pain 71 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: because I was dealing with my back issue and so 72 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: I'll have everything else and so all that's going on, 73 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm in the moat, I mean, the First War problems, 74 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: of course, the whole Mote situation this year. Oh, I 75 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: could read it this, which is the first row of 76 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: seats in the stadiums. That's the front row. Basically instead 77 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: of being on the sideline, you had to be up 78 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: there right because of coronavirus. It's great because you could 79 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: see pretty well. Yeah, it was great. But then when um, yeah, 80 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to get really into but when you 81 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: have like the national broadcast to take over the fifth 82 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: yard line and you can't pass on the moat. There's 83 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: a fight that almost started in Chicago because of this, 84 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: because of the CBS. That was the CBS that day 85 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: or Fox, I can't remember which one. They didn't have 86 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: a sideline reporter. They just had somebody there kind of 87 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: manning things, and they had and they had a screen 88 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: of monitor right so they could look at it, and 89 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: the monitor was kind of blocking in. One of the 90 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: cameramen came over and it was in a strong Chicago accident, 91 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: was like, you gotta move that, you gotta move. We 92 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: can't get by, and so this whole thing starts about 93 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: getting by. Well, I just decided that day I was 94 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: gonna stand above the tarp because there's no fans. So 95 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: I just stood above the tarp at the fifty yard line. 96 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: I was fine. I was great. I just to watch 97 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: the whole thing. It was craziness all year long. But 98 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Mark two hundred and fifty six games 99 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: where regular season games were played, right, playoff games and 100 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl all played on time, which is a minor miracle. 101 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: Well not time, not time, but they were. The super 102 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: Bowl was played some Tuesday night action. Yeah, a Wednesday. 103 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: Did we have a Wednesday night. We had a Wednesday night. 104 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: We had a Wednesday night. Wait, what was the afternoon? 105 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: Was that a Thursday or a Wednesday afternoon with a 106 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: Ravens Ravens and Steelers? How about that? We had some weirdness, 107 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: but not as much as you might think. You're right, 108 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: with all those games, we got them all played in 109 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: February seventh was yesterday. That's when the Super Bowl scheduled 110 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: and it was played, which and they did a hell 111 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: of a job in the stands with a Super Bowl, 112 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: all the cardboard cutouts. There were times when I can tell, yeah, 113 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm I've gotten high definition television Nextfinity, and I'm thinking, 114 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: you know, I'm squinting my eyes a little bit. I'm thinking, 115 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: this looks like a super Bowl. Yeah it was. It was. 116 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: There's no there's no doubt. It was bizarre to be 117 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: on road games and you guys were back here and 118 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: I was there. It was odd and strange on so 119 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: many different levels. But I remember thinking when obviously COVID 120 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: hit in, you know, we were all aware of it 121 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: at the beginning of March, and then we really want 122 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: to shut down. It was like March thirteenth, fourteen somewhere 123 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: in that range. I remember thinking, okay, well, what do 124 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: you do with pro days? What do you do with 125 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: with the draft? What do you do with the off season? Like, 126 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with all these things? And 127 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: then the NFL said, all right, well we're gonna go 128 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: virtue off season. Everybody go home. Yeah, you're gonna learn 129 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: at home. Draft, You're gonna do interviews through zoom. You're 130 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: all out of the building. You get out right, And 131 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 1: now you can't do that. Pulled off the draft, virtue 132 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: off season. Now you can't do that. They did it. 133 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: How are you gonna do this season? Well, we're gonna 134 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: cut preseason games and then we're gonna put in these requirements. 135 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna test them every day. We're gonna do it. 136 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: You can't do all that, And they did it. Yeah, 137 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: they pull it off. And now you see other sports 138 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: leagues that are following basketball is playing I think in 139 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: their arenas now because they looked at what the NFL did, 140 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: say hey we can do that. Yeah, we got our 141 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: own planes. We can do it. You know, it's tasked, 142 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: and you know basketball as a whole other thing. What 143 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: are the seventy five games or something like that it's 144 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: a shortened season and playing games in their own arena. 145 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: I was at Toyota Center the other night. I watched 146 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: the Rockets and the Spurs, and for Vander Kidd's birthday, 147 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: it's an annual tradition we have to go, and you know, 148 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: it's a game close to his birthday, and it was 149 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: a lot of fun to be there, and you know 150 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: they're pulling it off. So good for them. I mean, 151 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: you'd rather see the joint filled up. Although for me, 152 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, you know, as I get a little more seasoned, 153 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, this is nice. I can really spread out. 154 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: This is great. I got this whole section. But that's 155 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: that's probably not the most economically sound way of doing 156 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: it for these sports leagues. Anyway, super Bowl played yesterday, 157 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: of course, Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers beating 158 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. We'll get to that in a few moments. 159 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Texans here, Johnny Is. Obviously, the 160 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: year did not go according to plan, and you mentioned 161 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: it last offseason. Not having the OTAs and the training 162 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: camp situation was totally different, and the joint practices in 163 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: preseason games. I think this effect then maybe more than 164 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: a lot of teams, because hey, Bill O'Brien was saying 165 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: at the time, we're getting some veteran guys in here. 166 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: You know, you should be able to pick up the 167 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: offense pretty quickly, and Brandon Cooks knows it and everything 168 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: like that. I just think that the timing. Look, I'm 169 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: not a coach, but I can see with my own 170 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: eyes that they were better as the year went on. 171 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: I know they made the coaching change after week four, 172 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: but they were better as the year went on than 173 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: they were earlier. And look, they were still slinging it 174 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: and putting up big numbers with Chad Hanson and Kiki 175 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: qt catching the ball and Fuller out for the year, 176 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: and then obviously Randall Cobb getting hurt and Kenny still 177 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: Is getting released, and they were still able to put 178 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: up big numbers, big yards. Watson was terrific led the 179 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: league in passing coaching change. Of course, it really happened 180 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: a week four with Romeo taking over in an interim basis, 181 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: but David Culley comes in Casserio before that as the 182 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: GM and the staff starting to round out a little 183 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: bit here. So look, Pep Hamilton as the quarterback coach 184 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: with Tim Kelly staying as the offensive coordinator. Coordinator. I 185 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: think that's an interesting dynamic right there, because look, Kelly's 186 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: got less experience as a coordinator than Hamilton does himself. Right, 187 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: But Hamilton obviously as coach some pretty good quarterbacks and 188 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: knows a thing or two coming off the Herbert situation. 189 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: That's nice, And he had Andrew luck as a young 190 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: guy in this league. I mean, I think that there's 191 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: a lot he brings to the table as a QB coach, 192 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, I would hope that Kelly 193 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: only gets better as you go along. I think he 194 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: got better as a coordinator along with the rest of 195 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: the offense. As I point that out, I think Kelly 196 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: got better as the year went on. In fact, you 197 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: can hear that in our visits with him. When we 198 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: caught up with him on Mondays every other Monday, he 199 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: would talk about how he wouldn't say directly I feel 200 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: like I'm improving, but you could hear it in his 201 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: voice how he felt like he was on a better track. Well, 202 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: we talk about it all the time. As a pertain's 203 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: from rookie's going to second year players, Guy's gonna make 204 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: the leap. Well, that's what Tim was. Tim was a 205 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: rookie coordinator. So now you're going in through second year. 206 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: I remember a long long time ago, my very first 207 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: year as a head coach. I remember going back in 208 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: watching after my first year, watching us play and I'm like, 209 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: why am I doing that? What am I doing? Made 210 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: some subtle changes? Should just scheme things that you saw 211 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: after one year? And I'm sure that Tim would probably 212 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: do that. My philosophy on it, Mark has always been 213 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: just it's kind of the Julian Edelman philosophy when when 214 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Belichick drafted him back in OH nine, You drafted him 215 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: six seventh round, and he called him and he just said, 216 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't know where I'm gonna play. You're not a quarterback. 217 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna do with you. Well, 218 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna figure it out, right. It's essentially, you find 219 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: enough good people and find enough good coaches, you figure 220 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: it out. And so that to me is kind of 221 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: the way you look at it and say, hey, look, 222 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: Pep Hamilton, Tim Kelly, you know thoughts about Josh McCown 223 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: staying on the staff, all that kind of stuff, Well, 224 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: they seemingly all would revolve around a quarterback. You figure 225 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: it out out, you figure it out. You just bring 226 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: in as many good coaches as you can to put 227 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: together as good a staff as you possibly can. And yeah, 228 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: you may not have the right fit at all times, 229 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: but you keep working at it, and you keep finding 230 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: good guys to bring in and good coaches to bring in, 231 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: and you'll figure it out. So to me, I don't 232 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: look at that and go, well, it's tim it's pet 233 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: like are they gonna be? And I don't think about 234 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: that way. I just think about it as there's a 235 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: couple of really smart guys that have let NFL offenses. 236 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: They can figure it out. They can figure it out, 237 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: So let's figure it out together and see what they 238 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: can do together. Correct me if I'm wrong. Some QB 239 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: coaches are more like mini offensive coordinators, where let's just 240 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: hone in on these elements of the offense and everything, 241 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: and they're less able to be your swing coach if 242 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: you will. Maybe they can see some things and certainly 243 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: help you out, whereas some other quarterback coaches might be 244 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: more I don't know, technical in terms of the way 245 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: you play, the way you throw things like that, more 246 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: like a quincy avery or what's the guy's name who 247 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: coach Manziel and all those who we used to interview 248 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: with the combine all George Whitfield. Yes, so you know, 249 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: some might be more like that, some might be more 250 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: like mini offensive coordinators. Yeah. I think it varies depending 251 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: on how the staff is put together. In some sense, 252 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: if the head coach is a is the play caller, 253 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: like you know, take for instance, you know Kansas City 254 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: we saw last night, or take the Bucks. You've got 255 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: Byron Leftwich who's the offensive coordinator and basically he the 256 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: whole play calling is all him. That's what Bruce said. Bruce. 257 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians said, it's all on Byron. Well, because Byron's 258 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: focused on the offense, then they maybe have a quarterback 259 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: coach that is with Tom, that they go through things 260 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: and they share things together, and maybe there's a filter 261 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: between them. That quarterback coach ends up being a filter 262 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: between them and between those two and Byron. Maybe they 263 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: come together with Byron the coach can then you know, 264 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback coach can then go to Byron himself and say, hey, 265 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: these are some of the things that Tom's talking about. 266 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: Tom could talk to Byron about some of the things 267 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: he likes. It's just varied on how I think the 268 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: staff is put together and what the head coach is 269 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: comfortable with with, what the coordinators are comfortable with. Last year, 270 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: Tim was offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach, so maybe that's 271 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: a lot to put on somebody to be both. Now, 272 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: you've got to have the input of the quarterback obviously 273 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: to your offense, but to not have that role specifically 274 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: so you can have more of a thirty thousand foot 275 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: view of the entire operation may help, it may not. 276 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: Some coordinators might want to have that quarterback coach title 277 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: so they can just be, you know, hip to hip 278 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: with the quarterback, whereas some coordinators are like, no, I 279 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: want to have a quarterback coach that kind of helps me, 280 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: kind of becomes the filter between the quarterback and me 281 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: and kind of put it all together that way. I 282 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: think it just varies by staff, So I'm curious how 283 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: this will go together. But again go back to my point. 284 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: You just get good coaches and you put them together 285 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: and you figure out and you have an operation for 286 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: how you're gonna do it might be different than how 287 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: you did it. I've always said this a million times. 288 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: Different doesn't mean better. It's just different. And so we'll 289 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: see if it ends up being how different it is 290 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: from what they did last year. Obviously a new head coach, 291 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: and so we'll see how David Culley wants to do 292 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: it and how he wants to put it together. All right, 293 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: tell me about Lovey now, Lovey Smith, because it got 294 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: it got Report of the Week, Holly was hired. In fact, 295 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: it was in the wind that he was going to 296 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: be the defensive coordinator. And Lovey is somebody brings a 297 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: great deal of experience to the table. He you know, 298 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: you look at his record in Chicago. You know, he 299 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: took the Bears to a Super Bowl, another NFC championship game. 300 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: I think he was ten and six the year that 301 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: he was let go. I believe that's the case. And 302 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, look at the Illinois experience as okay, that 303 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: that didn't go very well to me, though, if you 304 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: have a bad experience like that doesn't necessarily mean you 305 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: forgot everything you did well in the past, all right, 306 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: especially when you were a coordinator, when you were an 307 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: assistant coach, which is what he's going to be here. 308 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: So tell me about him and what he might bring 309 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: to the table. Well, I'm curious to see what are 310 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: some of the things that he may have learned in college. 311 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that seeing the offenses. Yeah, see, 312 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: you see some different offenses. Now the Big Ten is 313 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: not as varied, I guess maybe. I mean you do 314 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: see Ohio State and I'm trying to remember who all 315 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: Illinois played because it was only six games this year. 316 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: But well back in the day you had I mean 317 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: when Purdue, you know, yeah, I meant some of that 318 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: with Northwestern brom there, Northwestern doing it a little bit 319 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: differently than what they did back in the in the 320 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: Randy Walker days. But point being, you see some things 321 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: in college that are now filtering up. And we said 322 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: that a million times high school things filter up to college. 323 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: College things are filtering up to the NFL. We're seeing 324 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: more of that. So Love he's had an opportunity to 325 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: see some of those things that are coming from college 326 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: to the NFL and have that kind of added to 327 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: his added to his toolbox, if you will. I've said 328 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: that's hugely important because when you start looking around, like 329 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: take for instance, Brandon's Daley, Brandon Daley with the Rams 330 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: had been at I'm trying to remember where he was 331 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: he was at a D three school like sevent eight 332 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, not even that long ag Yeah, not 333 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: even maybe like five years ago, what it was something 334 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: like that. Anyways, he was coaching at D three level, 335 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: and you've got to get pretty creative about some of 336 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: the things you're doing. So from that perspective, you bring 337 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: that with you to the Rams as a defensive coordinator, 338 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: and some of the things that he was doing with 339 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: the La Rams. You're going, wait a second, I kind 340 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: of only see this on Saturdays when I'm watching college football, 341 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: some of the things that they're doing. So maybe love 342 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: he's learned from that particular aspect. But the one thing 343 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: that we've known for a long time with Lovey kind 344 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: of coming out of the Tony Dungee School of Tampa two, 345 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: if you will, if that's a sort of scheme that 346 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: allowed players to play fast. They wanted to create chaos upfront, 347 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: penetrate up front, create chaos up front. But you're gonna 348 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: play fast because we don't try and complicate things and 349 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: make things. It doesn't mean you make it simple on 350 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: the offense, but it just makes it easier for you 351 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: to play fast because you know this thing backwards and forwards. 352 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: Now you throw in some of the wrinkles and things 353 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: that maybe you learned Illinois in the three or four 354 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: years he was there as a head coach. When you 355 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: see what you have as a defense, now, the onus 356 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: is on Nick Cassario to figure out what that personnel 357 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: is going to be because I think, well we found 358 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: out mark over the last five six weeks in particular, 359 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: was the personnel wasn't where it needed to be because 360 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: you had some key guys go down. Obviously, it's start 361 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: way back in training camp when Garyon Conley went down. 362 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: We knew watching a training camp that we were thin 363 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: at corner right, and then it had a domino effect 364 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 1: when Garyon's out, Now Vernon has to go outside. Well, 365 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: Vernon should have played all year inside, but you don't 366 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: have Connley, so Vernon's gotta go outside. It's now you 367 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: just got this trickle down effect. Now because Vernon has 368 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: to go outside, you bring Eric Murray down from safety. 369 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: Now he's got to play the nickel. He's not back 370 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: there at safe where he was signed to be, and 371 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: you've got everything kind of out of joint at that point. 372 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: And then guys get banged up and you look out 373 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: there and go, that's not an NFL defense. So that's 374 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: that's got a change. So I think we're all pretty 375 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: much in the same page. The personnel and defense has 376 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: got it's got to get better. And here's the here's 377 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: the tough thing. As I saw it at the Senior 378 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: Bowl this year, to me, strikes me as strength on 379 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball Bowl in particular, just 380 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: in general. But it feels like it's a really good 381 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: quarterback class. I think I love the running backs in 382 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: this class. Wide receivers are going to be on par 383 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: with what they were last year and last year's class. 384 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: There's a tremendous receiver class. The tight ends I think 385 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: are Okay, they're not great, but the line in the 386 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: interior linement, I love them them. The tackles deep. Oh 387 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: there's not a Laramie, but it's but it's a pretty 388 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: deep class. Defensively, I think at the top of each 389 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: position group you could say, Okay, that's those Mika Parsons 390 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: at bed State, UM certain and Farley at corner some 391 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: of those things. But I think beyond that, the depth 392 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: is a little I think it's a little bit stretched. 393 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to really search to find some nuggets. 394 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: We'll see what they do from a from a roster standpoint, 395 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: what the salary cap is gonna be, how much money 396 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna have. From from a free agent standpoint. But 397 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: we're a point where the draft has really got to 398 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: be how this team gets fed. And we've got to 399 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: see those year one to year two jumps made Blacklock, 400 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: Reid Grenard. They've got to take that year one to 401 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: year two jump half too. It's a must for those 402 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: three guys to take that year one of year two 403 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: jump on defense. By the way, Brandon Staley, we forgot 404 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: the football powerhouse that he was at in twenty sixteen. 405 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: That would be John Carroll Carroll. Okay, Nicko's alma mater. 406 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys Alma Daniel's alma mater. A 407 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: lot of guys want to John Carroll. It's a cradle 408 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: of coaches D three style. The younger brother of josh 409 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: Ben McDaniels reportedly hired by the Texans to be in 410 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: an offensive assistant, but he didn't go to John Carroll. 411 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: He went to Kent State as a quarterback, and so 412 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: did Julian Edelman, who you already mentioned in this stegment. 413 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's all come around full circle. It's amazing, amazing, 414 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: it's coming together. But yeah, look, they're not done with 415 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: the staff yet and they're not close to announcing. Well 416 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: maybe they are closed. Maybe like tomorrow, we got it 417 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: all wrapped up and here it is at four o'clock. 418 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I hope it's soon because that's 419 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: when Houston Texans dot Com we can come out with 420 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: all the profiles on them and interview them and just 421 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: get all that information out there. I mean, we've gotten 422 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: to know Nick a little bit in the last few weeks, 423 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: and obviously they've been really busy trying to put this 424 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: thing together. And coach Cully, who look, I understand, you 425 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: know people, boy that was that came out of nowhere 426 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: in a lot of people's eyes. I think his name 427 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: surfaced in a report maybe a week out, a week 428 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: and a half out, and I thought, all right, that's 429 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: a guy to keep an eye on, and eventually he 430 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: becomes the coach. There were seven openings, Johnny, and four 431 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: of the seven or what I would call out of 432 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: the box kind of hires, you know what I mean, 433 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: sort of up these people weren't talking about yeah names 434 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: that yeah, because and that's that's a good point. That's 435 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: a good way you put it right there, because who 436 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: knows what the internal lists are of all these organizations 437 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: who are either definitely looking or possibly looking for a 438 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: head coach, Like back in November December, right when you know, 439 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: like Jacksonville, you know that Doug Marone's not going to 440 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: be back all right, but he's still coaching the team 441 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: for a few more weeks here, and we've got a list. 442 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: We're working on urban Meyer right right. I mean, who 443 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: knows how long they had their eye on him, and 444 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: if the Texas thing fell through because Urban thought, I 445 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: think I can go to Jacksonville. I'd rather go to 446 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: the NFL and all of that. Who knows how that 447 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: all plays out and some of those untold stories we'd 448 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: all love to know. But when you look at Dan Campbell, 449 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: when you I think urban Meyer is not out of 450 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: the box, but it is to a degree because he's 451 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: a college coach, but he's a really good one. You've 452 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: been out of the game, well, he had not been coaching, 453 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: he'd been on TV for while, but did he ever coach? 454 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: I think he coached in the pros for I can't remember, actually, 455 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: I just remember him being a college guy bowling Green, Utah. Yeah, 456 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: so you gotta I want to say he's snuck in 457 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: an NFL year in there, which we've seen Matt Matt 458 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: Rule did that before he ended up going back to 459 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. I think he had a year or two 460 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: when he was with the Packers. I think you know 461 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 1: who else has I think a little bit of NFL 462 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: is James Franklin of Penn State. Yes, yes, he was 463 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: with the Packers, all right. So yeah, so there's that 464 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: that's got to keep your eye on in the future. 465 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: But you're right, you know names that we're because when 466 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: so when when Bill Brown was fired in week four, 467 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: and immediately people are like, Okay, well who's next? Who's next? 468 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: He made a list, right, everybody made a list, Eric By, 469 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: Robert Sala, Brian Dable, right, Joe Brady, Matt Eberflus, all 470 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: those five guys, those are the five names hottest as 471 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: I do getting everything anybody, I think those are the 472 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: ones right off the top. Fit one, Arthur Smith. Okay, 473 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: that's six. Two of the six those got head coaching jobs. 474 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: So those and that happens every but it's weird because 475 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: the Colts offensive coordinator Nick Cerrianti rams defensive coordinator. What 476 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: he becomes the Chargers head coach. All right, we've got 477 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: to take a break. But when we come back, more 478 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: on the Texans offseason to do list, which is gonna 479 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: be a little bit different with no combine. Normally we'd 480 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: be gearing up of the combine right now in a 481 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Not gonna happen. It's gonna be very 482 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: different this offseason. Plus thoughts on the super Bowl? Who 483 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: are you rooting for? Last night? That's what I wanted, 484 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: a true confessions about the Super Bowl because that was 485 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: bizarre watching what went down last night. It's Texans Radio. 486 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: Can't get enough Texans Radio. We've got shows, We've got podcasts, 487 00:23:52,640 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: we've got interviews. It's all on Houston Texans dot Com. 488 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: Back to the show that keeps you up to date 489 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: on the Houston Ticks. Tickson's all excess, all right, Johnny's 490 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: talking to me into watching Raiders thirty for thirty. It's awesome. 491 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: Out David's history. It's awesome. It is. It is a 492 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: great history lesson because you go back and go wow, 493 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: How did we get here with the Raiders? But not 494 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: only that, how did we get here with the NFL? 495 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: Why did team why were teams moving? Why did Baltimore 496 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: move to Indianapolis? Why did Cleveland move to Baltimore? And 497 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: it's all sort of kind of summed up. Yeah, it's 498 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: kind of all summed up in this documentary. It's fantastic 499 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: freaking out with everybody saw Vince Lombardi last night, right, 500 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: which was wild? Well that was why I hang on 501 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: a second though. They nailed the visual, but the voice. Yeah, 502 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: I mean what you're right there? How how hard is 503 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: it to get a guy what the hell going out 504 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: around here? Like I can't do that. You can get 505 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: people to do a good Vince Lombardi New York accent, 506 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: and instead you had bin Sean Couttery. Hello, Hello, NFL. 507 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean, what is that voice? That's not Vince Lombardi's voice, 508 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: not even I mean, everyone's gonna understand it's not gonna 509 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: be close. But anyway, this Al Davis versus the NFL 510 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: thirty for thirty, they have a Pete Roselle al Davis 511 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: all right, this because I I don't like it, although 512 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: the winter second thing, wait, hold on what you could 513 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: call Texans games forever. I could I could be immortalized. Yes, 514 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: you could do them. You could do them forever. This 515 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: is gonna be so good. Maybe that technology want to 516 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: speak into a computer. I'm talking about what I'm saying. 517 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Al Davis. They're showing it studio and 518 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: there's just technologyology. They use some different technology where you 519 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: map their faces and then you overlay it and it's 520 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: it's out. You know, think about all the fake videos 521 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: and fake news and everything. Oh terrible. But anyway, the 522 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: Lombardi thing last night, Look, I thought, like I said, 523 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: I thought they did a hell of a job putting 524 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: on the Super Bowl. They really did in the pandemic 525 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: and everything. I mean, come on, they did a nice 526 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: job yesterday. I might as well go here since we're 527 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: here right now. So now that Brady's not a Patriot 528 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: and he's the old guy forty three years old, you 529 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: know how I feel about the Patriots, Johnny, Yes, I 530 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: don't like them. I hate them like poison. But you 531 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: have sports hate for the Patriots. I have sports at 532 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: these sports hate for the Patriots. But I do like 533 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people who work there. You know, we 534 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: have some factot there and everything, but some of them 535 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: are here right now, like Nick, you know whatever. So 536 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking though, Tom Brady at forty three with 537 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: another team, an NFC team, I got on board, I 538 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, especially since the Chiefs are in danger 539 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: of becoming the new Patriots, the new nemesis in the 540 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: conference that you got to deal with. And you know, 541 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: I like again, Mahomes is very likable. You know, Andy 542 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: Reid is likable. But I hate the Chiefs. I hate 543 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, so I wanted them to go down. And 544 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: at the same time I got to see old guy 545 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: Tom do it outperform young guy Mahomes. Now, I know 546 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: it's not apples to apples and the offensive line issues 547 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs and everything like that, but Tom Brady 548 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: walks into the room and the culture changes. It's that simple, really, 549 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: and all the work he puts in, every nobody wants 550 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 1: to disappoint him. The defense plays better when Patriot when 551 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: the Brady's on the team. So let me ask you this, 552 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: did you find yourself last night? Let's let's go. It's 553 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: it's seven to three and Brady goes back to pass 554 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: and he's looking looking, looking yeah, and all of a sudden, 555 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: Grount breaks free. Did you cheer? No, I don't see 556 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: that's the one anything. No, No, I was happy the 557 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: Bucks scored, but I was like Gronk because Brady to Gronk, 558 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: I don't like, because that's two patriot ish Brady on 559 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: another team with all different guys. Okay, but with Gronk there, 560 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 1: it's a little too. It would be like Edelman being 561 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: on the box too. No, no, no, no, I can't 562 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: have that. But look I accepted it because I had 563 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: to have the Chiefs lose last night. You know, everybody 564 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: has has such bravado involved with the Kansas City Chiefs 565 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: organization right now, and look, believe me, I would too. 566 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: So I admit I'm glad you said that. I'm glad 567 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: you won't. You won't out anybody. I know you won't. 568 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: But oh but I was. I was very I was 569 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: driving up to get tested this morning and Sean and 570 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: Seth had a segment in which Kevin Harley, well, there's 571 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: was a streaker, Um, some idiot went on the field 572 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, and Kevin Harden's like he's got a 573 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: bra on bra It was like it was like a 574 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: boar at Onesie and his shorts fell down. Harland did 575 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: it perfectly. He did it. Yeah. See Chiefs broadcast was 576 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: not quite in the it's such a funny mood at 577 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: that point. They were not down with it. Oh yeah, 578 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: it was Harlan's doing an objective broadcast where he's just 579 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: having a good walk out of there are feeling. Harlan 580 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: is the former voice of the Chiefs. By the way, 581 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: Harlan used to do Chiefs games before Mitch holtis the 582 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: current guy. Right. Anyways, the Chiefs. Look, I love Andy Reid. 583 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: I've known people that worked for Andy. They adore him, 584 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: they love him, and I mean, I think fantastic. There 585 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: are plenty of Chiefs players and the Chiefs. The Chiefs 586 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: fans got just oh there's something about them last couple years. 587 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: I remember when we went up there Week six last year, 588 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: they had they had gotten the Cults beat them the 589 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: Sunday night before, right right, they beat him up physically, 590 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: and I just remember reading comments from the Chiefs fans 591 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: like I thought they were gonna just team. It was 592 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: just loaded with everything, loaded with it. And then we 593 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: went in and just kicked them up and down the field. 594 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it was physically beaten up. And it was 595 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: like one excuse after the other. Yeah, it was like 596 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: and then when they won it, it became And then 597 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: of course they followed it up this year with being 598 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: as good as the Chiefs were. They were incorrigible. It 599 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: was like, like, you guys are not the greatest team 600 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: since sliced bread, and somebody at some point he's gonna 601 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: pop you. The Browns had an opportunity and couldn't finish. 602 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: The Browns had an opportunity but couldn't finish you. I 603 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: have a point to make about that. But I also 604 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: have a theory. I feel like I haven't been on 605 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: the air like six weeks. We have true I have 606 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: a theory about the fan base thing that you just 607 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: pointed out. Any team's fan base, any team that has 608 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: that kind of success, their fan base is going to 609 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: be intolerable. All right. It doesn't matter who it is. 610 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: Longhorn fan base. When the Longhorns are good, intolerable, aggies intolerable. Okay, 611 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: you wag intoller mora Bowl? All right, Texans, give me 612 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. I'll be intolerable too, all right, I 613 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: promise you. We're every fan base out there that has 614 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: Patriots fans, are you get into Cowboys? Don't even get me. 615 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: They're intolerable and they don't even have success for twenty 616 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: five years. Look, the Chiefs fan base is great. They 617 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: are rabid. They are there early. There is a button 618 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: a seat when twelve noon hits and let's kickoff. We 619 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: saw that in week six. My favorite fans story ever 620 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: actually didn't even happen at the actual stadium. This is 621 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: the last year playoff game. So we go over on 622 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: the bus and that day it was kind of gray 623 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: and cloudy and it was chilly, and so we're driving 624 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: over and you go on. I don't know what the 625 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: highway is, Highways seventy, higher, thirty. I don't know what 626 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: it is. But we're on the highway. We're all on 627 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: the bus. I think the first buses go. It's like 628 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: two buses go. And so I'm in a second bus 629 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: and I'm just looking out and there's some snow on 630 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: the ground and we could kind of drive on the 631 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: highway past kind of a neighborhood. And so we see 632 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: this guy this nice house. This guy comes running out 633 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: and he's got pajama pants on. He's got a Mahomes jersey, 634 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: on and he literally the sidewalk brings him all the 635 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: way to like this fence that separates the highway from 636 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,719 Speaker 1: the housing. And I'm telling you, you see the door 637 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: fly open. You see this guy just run out, literally 638 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: just run to the end of the sidewalk and then 639 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden just throws double birds at both 640 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: buses going by. It was we were playing like two 641 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: So this is probably nine thirty ten o'clock in the morning. 642 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: It is Pj's just running out, just like just giving 643 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: it to every He knows the route, he knows the 644 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: bus route. Does I know? He knows it exactly. It's 645 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: exactly right. He knew the bus route, he knew were coming. 646 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 1: That's a good point. I was a little surprised when 647 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: I thought about what he was doing. The bus arrival 648 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: was one of my favorite things because you never know 649 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Hey, you have no idea. Philly, Oh, 650 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: Philly was awesome. You never played phil every eight years. 651 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: You haven't lived till you've taken the bus into Morgantown, 652 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: West Virginia with the Miami Hurricanes and little old ladies 653 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: literally little old ladies flipping you the bird. I'm thinking 654 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: God bless West Virginia. Now I love West Virginia, you 655 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: know that because I love the Greenbrier. In fact, we 656 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: start that rumor we're going back deep. I saw Nick 657 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: Assari on the hallway last weekend, like it took everything 658 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: I had not to say, please send us back to 659 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: the yes like before welcome and hello and and you 660 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: know I met him on zoom and we've talked a 661 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: little bit on but greener. But I never got away 662 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: in March. Yeah, Mark, Mark, whatever, Greenbriar, I'm nobody just 663 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: Greenbrier anyway. Uh, the divisional game with the Browns and Chiefs. 664 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: Mahomes had the concussion in that game, right or evaluated 665 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: for a concussion, and he played the rest of the game. Look, 666 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm not conspiracy guy, and I'm sure he passed all 667 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: the protocols, baseline, whatever the tests are they give him. 668 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: He didn't look right to me last night. And it's 669 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: not just a toe. You and I can debate all day. 670 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: I thought, Look, he ran around, he threw a ball 671 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: in mid air on a rope that hit a receiver 672 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: in the face, a thirty yard rope while he was 673 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: falling down and got nothing. Got it. He had the 674 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: physical goods. I feel like I can do that with 675 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: his arm though, Yeah, but I feel like, yeah, but 676 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: he got outside the pocket a few times he did 677 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: as he was limping. And part of the time he 678 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: got outside the pocket is because the Bucks, which I 679 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: thought was a great wrinkle, Well the Bucks put a 680 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: couple of the big guys outside. Yeah, so that at 681 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: one point they had Vita Vaya outside, who's like five 682 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: hundred pounds, and then they had Jason Pierre Paul on 683 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: the inside. And you know that. I mean, we don't 684 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: have a Vita Va. But in nineteen when Charles a 685 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: man who has the big sack, where did he get it? 686 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: He got it when he went inside. Well, Ja Pierre 687 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: Paul's kind of a I mean, Charles manner was kind 688 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: of all right, who was outside? When I meant who 689 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: was outside the movement for us? For us, I don't remember. 690 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: I think it may have been why I think I 691 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: JJ so, could they have had reader outside? Could have 692 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: been we didn't do that exact thing. But the thought 693 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: was they wanted to get Pierre Paul and guards, and 694 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 1: by putting Veya outside, they knew Veya would just crush 695 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: the tackle. You I mean Mahomes would have to rush 696 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: the bubble. Yeah, and then they just sat in a 697 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: two shell night and we're like, we're gonna take this away. 698 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: I thought one of the great things they did was 699 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: if Kelsey and if Kelsey and Tyrek were on the 700 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 1: same side, they would make sure that four guys playing 701 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: in a zone were over that that two players side, 702 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: because by the time that Mahomes looked over there and 703 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: was like, I can't get this to anybody to pass 704 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: rushes on him, he couldn't get to the other side, right. 705 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: And that was brilliant. And that's what I've said it 706 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: a million times. Agot these guys, you got it. I 707 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: don't care how you do it any Kelsey and Hill. 708 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: You got to slow them down in some ways they perform. 709 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: So they learned from the first one. You can't leave 710 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: you guys out on islands against Tyreek, but if you 711 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: play four over two, which is what they did. It 712 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: was brilliant and they learned from that first one, which 713 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: I thought was great. Here's the other one. We said 714 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: this a million times. If you're gonna beat the Chief, 715 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: you better slowed on Kelsey. You better slow him down. 716 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: Tyreek can do I mean Tyre Kid two touchdowns against 717 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: us in that game we won. We slowed down Kelsey. 718 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: Now we did it with a bunch of safe, bunch 719 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: of catches, but but slowed him down, right, How did 720 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: how did the Bucks do it? For the most part 721 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: last night, he was just getting short stuff. Vante David 722 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: linebacker that Devin White, the rut the tackle he makes 723 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: on Clyde Edwards Hilaire where he actually false steps and 724 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: still gets to the outside tackles Clydewards Hilaire. For It's 725 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: like I knew we could run are you? Are you 726 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: with me? Though? The chief should have run the ball 727 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: a little bit more, but should have hindsight, should have. 728 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: But then you're running against Vaya and Pure Paul. They 729 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: couldn't get to those two linebackers. Those guys are going 730 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: to run everything down. It was a tough defense when 731 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,919 Speaker 1: we played Tampa last year. When we went to Tampa 732 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: last year, you and I were on a plane like 733 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: a defensive no joke. Now, now we knew that defense 734 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: was good. They got some players. They were very good. 735 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: Devin White was he was He's a rookie, so you 736 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: could tell there wasn't much there. But we knew Sue 737 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: in thea pure Paul Shack Barrett. Remember, even with Winston, 738 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: the offense was high flying for a while. They had 739 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: won what four in a row, and we played them. 740 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: Zack Winston throw all those picks. But they add four 741 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 1: nette and good for him, right, I mean they added 742 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback too, just at pretty good? All right? Next up, 743 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: next steps for the Houston Texans. Coming up this soft 744 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 1: season Texans Radio. Texans All Access continues in a moment. 745 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: Don't miss an episode of our Texans podcast. Subscribe on I, 746 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: tune in, and Stitcher to get the latest tend right here. Ful. 747 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Mark Vanderbaren, John Harris with you. Season ten 748 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 1: of Texans Radio shows beginning tonight, day after the Super Bowl. 749 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: Johnny and I are working together in our eighth season 750 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: doing these programs, and tomorrow and I will have Drew 751 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: and d Beyond with us, and we'll do a lot 752 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: of fun stuff. We're gonna have fun. We're gonna have fun. Okay, 753 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: We're gonna do our best. We're gonna have fun with 754 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: you like it or not. All right, So next stuff 755 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans, Johnny, as they gotta figure out 756 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: the rest of the staff. Yeah stuff, if I missed it, 757 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: I haven't seen any old line coach report. That's the 758 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: one I haven't. I haven't seen that I can remember, 759 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: but I will. I will admit. They were all just 760 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: being fired from all different locations. And I was in 761 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,479 Speaker 1: Mobile and I was trying to focus on Senior Bowl. 762 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: And then David was hired, and I want to say, 763 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: I was watching his press conference and I was still 764 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: in Mobile, so all that was going on there, it was, 765 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: it was it's nit. The thing is is when a 766 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: coach gets hired and the staff comes along. I mean 767 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: it is like bing bang. I mean it is happening 768 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: all over the place. Wait, this guy's saying this, this 769 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 1: guy's saying this. Just kind of have to wait until 770 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: everything shakes out. But that's the one I have not 771 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: heard his offensive line. Here's how I look at any 772 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: offseason moves by any team. Really, Okay, there's what you 773 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: do with the off season and how people react to it, 774 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: right which, obviously, judging from you know, the general reaction, 775 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: it's not exactly like setting the marquis of flame right here. 776 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 1: I understand that, and I'll admit that. And look, I've 777 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: admitted that before about things this organization is done, but 778 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: very often, not very often, but sometimes they've done the 779 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: unpopular thing and it works out really well, like two 780 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: thousand and six, you know, And I was asking people like, 781 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: how does this compare to two thousand and six in 782 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: your mind? Because I just want to get some different perspectives, 783 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: because look, I was on these air waves in the 784 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: afternoon with Rich Lord during two thousand and six offseason, 785 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,280 Speaker 1: and even though Gary ubi Gary Kubiak was just high tired, 786 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: We're all very happy about that, but we immediately jumped 787 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 1: into this whole Vy Reggie Bush, not Mario Williams, wasn't 788 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 1: even an equation. It was Vy Reggie oh Rich was yeah, 789 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: I mean, and McClain too, all right, And it was 790 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: like Invasion of the body Snatchers. And I love Vince, 791 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: I really do. I think Vince that Rose Bowl where 792 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: he won the national championship. The one over Michigan was 793 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: pretty good too, but the National Championship was maybe the 794 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: greatest college game I've ever seen. And I'm you know, 795 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: I used to be a college annunsler for a pretty 796 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: good team, so all that great. But I was like, look, 797 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, I I really believed honestly that you know, 798 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: David needed a shot with Gary Kubiak, and they did too, 799 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 1: and obviously that didn't work out. So you know, maybe 800 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: Vy would have been different with Gary. But the whole 801 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: point is this that offseason wasn't really popular, uh to 802 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: lean toward Reggie Bush and then really not popular gonna 803 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: take Mario Williams the night Yeah, well, well and then 804 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: on in the season, so that the whole thing stretched out, 805 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: and you know, it didn't resolve great for anybody. Look, Mari, 806 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: Mario turned out to be the right pick. You know, now, 807 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 1: if you had three four years of success with Vince, 808 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 1: I could still argue today that that would have been nice, 809 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,919 Speaker 1: you know, to do some of those things with Vince. 810 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: But look as overall, you pick the guy who, out 811 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: of those three has had the best career, right, I mean, 812 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm not. I mean, it hasn't been a tremendous career. 813 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: I feel like Mario was on track to do some 814 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: really great things had he not gotten hurt in week 815 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: five and twenty eleven years that it hurt him so 816 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,959 Speaker 1: bad because he was on nearly a Hall of Fame track. 817 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: When you look at the numbers, just the raw numbers 818 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: of it, and then you know he gets the huge 819 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: deal with Buffalo. It's never quite the same. We don't 820 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: have to recite all that, but sometimes Gary Kubiak in 821 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,760 Speaker 1: twenty ten, let's go to that they don't fire Gary Kubiak. 822 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: Fans are just furious about that. People don't remember. They're 823 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: furious about that. Wade gets hired out, and you know, 824 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: it's not exactly quiet during the offseason, but there's no 825 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: football news other than the draft itself, and then things 826 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: really work out well the next year. Look, I don't 827 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: know how the guy they drafted in twenty eleven was 828 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: not welcome with open arms. Yeah, he was kind of 829 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: not booed by everybody that saw him on draft night, 830 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: and that you know worked out pretty well. Yeah. The 831 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 1: point is this, I don't know how this is gonna 832 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: play out. You know, it no matter who you hire, 833 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: whether it's b Enemy or Sala or David Culley, whoever 834 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: you hire, it almost doesn't matter. And I mean it 835 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 1: does matter in terms of the way it plays publicly, 836 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: I guess, but you know that is kind of irrelevant 837 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: until you kick the ball and then you see what 838 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: the actual results are of what you've done. Look, it 839 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: could be maybe it doesn't work at all. You know, 840 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: maybe it works great. The point is we all have 841 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: a reaction to it right now, good or bad. You know, 842 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: you might hire the next Vince Lombardi, you might not. 843 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: But the point is when you kick the balls when 844 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: it really matters. But we got six months to talk 845 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 1: about it, so I know we're gonna have left to say, yeah, 846 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: there's there. You're right. I think I don't think I 847 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: made that point really well. But I'll be getting it 848 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: every every night, six to seven pm. Right here, I'll 849 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: be making that same interest. How many times have we 850 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: heard teams winning the off season have done jack squat 851 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: and during the season. Yeah, I mean that's essentially it. Now. 852 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: It may be that the it may be that you 853 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: quote unquote lost the off season, he loses during the season. 854 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: It happens. But we've seen a lot of teams. Remember 855 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,720 Speaker 1: the Browns two years ago, O. B. J. John Dorsey, 856 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. There was all this love and the Browns 857 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: are gonna be the next thing since greatest thinks it 858 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: sliced bread and then turn into a six and ten 859 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: team or whatever. But a year later they get it 860 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: going and who knows, and look, we haven't. We haven't 861 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: talked about this, Sean. Look, I want them to kisshim. Makeup. 862 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: This is me Texans guy right here. I want this. 863 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: You know. It's like my parents are fighting. Okay. I 864 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: want this thing to resolve itself, and I want Watson 865 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 1: to play and everybody to be happy about it, and 866 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: let's just hope for the very best. I mean, they've 867 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: been very clear to us, you know, to everybody publicly 868 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,280 Speaker 1: and to us privately. They're not trading to Sean. Okay, 869 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean Watson's here, so all right, great, Watson's here now, 870 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: I know that he has you know, I guess you 871 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: could call it options. But again, I feel like I'm 872 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: in the household and mom and dad stop arguing. Welcome together. Well, 873 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: my mom and dad used to fight. I wanted to 874 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 1: make waffles for them. I couldn't do it, but I 875 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,439 Speaker 1: wanted to. I felt like that would solve I felt 876 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: like that would solve the deal. If we could get 877 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: everybody together over Johnny's waffles. Everything's fine, Yeah, it just sounded. 878 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 1: Oh man, I made some really good chicken sandwiches yesterday 879 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl. By the way, I really sure 880 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: that you did I made Vander Ribbs okay, Joanna, our producer, 881 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: thank you very much for helping us out tonight and 882 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: we'll be back tomorrow. Thanks for listening everybody. We love 883 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: being on and have a great night. Go Texans. This 884 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: is Texans Radio on Sports Radio six ten O six 885 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: ten