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Speaker 1: This is the twenty twenty two NFL Draft with Sean Shariffe,

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Speaker 1: Brian Bronnus, Bobby Belt, Dave Helmut, and Kyle Yeoman's night

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Speaker 1: where I talked to my final guy last night and

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Speaker 1: I said, enough, I'm done. I can't do this anymore.

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Speaker 1: I mean what happens is, though you're trying to, you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody's got and that's the beauty of what's we're about

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Speaker 1: to see these next three days and especially today in

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Speaker 1: the first night. Yeah, with really and we use the

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Speaker 1: word chaos, but that's that's kind of where we're living

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Speaker 1: right now. We're living in that where with these teams

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Speaker 1: with multiple picks and there should we back up? Should

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Speaker 1: we make the picks? You know? And I think that's where,

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Speaker 1: like I said, last night, very very late, I said,

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Speaker 1: I gotta hang up. I'm hey, good luck tomorrow. Hope

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Speaker 1: all the tags glow for you, Hope you find your

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guys. But that's kind of where we are

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Speaker 1: right now. Being a radio guy, always root for chaos,

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Speaker 1: you know, storylines a mess, and it feels like this

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Speaker 1: draft has like lack like your big sexy names in

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Speaker 1: terms of the studs, but that's created a lot more uncertainty.

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Speaker 1: Uh and and I feel like, if you're a team,

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Speaker 1: where's the s we eat spot in this thing? A

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Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about mid rounds. This morning,

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Speaker 1: I said, are you a little disappointed if you're Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: sit in relation to the sweet spot in this draft?

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Speaker 1: Bobby with supposedly fourteen or fifteen guys as first round grades. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they're in a bit of a tough spot

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Speaker 1: values necessarily going to be there. I think that's why

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Speaker 1: you've started to hear chatter about do they want to

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Speaker 1: look to go up? Do they want to try and

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Speaker 1: trade up. That's why Jerry is very publicly talked about like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: i'd be interesting going up because we're so far back.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Steven said it the other day, third

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Speaker 1: through fifth round that's gonna be, you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: of value there, and so they're fortunate to have what

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Speaker 1: four fifth round picks, and so they've got all those

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Speaker 1: fifth round picks, they're in a good spot in the

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Speaker 1: third and fourth round. I just I'll be interested to see.

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Speaker 1: The thing I keep wondering about about trading up is

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Speaker 1: do they look at this as it's so deep in

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Speaker 1: the middle, and like Stephen had talked about thin at

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Speaker 1: the top and the first thin in the second, do

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Speaker 1: they view that second round pick as just we can

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Speaker 1: stand to sacrifice that to get the value right in

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Speaker 1: the first and then we'll coast and third, fourth, fifth, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that's why you've heard the

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Speaker 1: rumors about a Tyler Smith from Tulsa as being a

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Speaker 1: possibility at twenty four, because all of a sudden, it's

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Speaker 1: like you're thinking, when you're picking at the bottom of

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Speaker 1: guy when we come back to fifty six. So sometimes

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Speaker 1: you have to think of a little bit more of

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Speaker 1: a way of like, maybe we've got to grab this

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Speaker 1: to get him. And I get having that mindset in

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Speaker 1: the later days of a draft, but is it too

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Speaker 1: early to do that at twenty four, because I feel

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Speaker 1: like that's where a lot of the nervous energy around

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Speaker 1: the Star lies right now, is with the prospect that

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Speaker 1: you feel like you're reaching on but it's still a

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Speaker 1: first round pick. Yeah, that's the thing where you you worry.

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Speaker 1: But we call it reaching to those guys and gals

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Speaker 1: in those rooms, that's their guy, you know, that's where

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Speaker 1: and then and then you know. But I think that

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Speaker 1: our listening audience too, when we started talking about the

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Speaker 1: where everybody was like, no, no, we're not you know,

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Speaker 1: let's do something else. But to them, they see a big,

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Speaker 1: Zach Rivy too. But Brian, it's it's a great example.

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Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm not mistaken, you have a second

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Speaker 1: round grade on Zion Johnson, don't you. Yeah, I do,

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Speaker 1: actually him and Green both, and I've got a Green

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Speaker 1: above Johnson. So it's funny to me, and we led

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Speaker 1: And so that could be Tyler Smith, that could be

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Speaker 1: Zion Johnson, that could be you know, I think most

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Speaker 1: like Trail and Burke's who's widely seen as like that

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Speaker 1: like there's like fifty names that sort of makes sense

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Speaker 1: narrowed it down really effectively. Layton vander Ess was going

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Speaker 1: because I think the cowboys are looking at this is

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Speaker 1: Like we don't totally know what's gonna happen here. Guy.

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Speaker 1: That goes back to what Sean was talking about earlier.

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Speaker 1: There's not those big names in this draft, and the

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Speaker 1: the tape, trust your board. Right now, we're hearing those names,

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Speaker 1: the Zion Johnson's, the Kenyon Greens, the Tyler Smiths as

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Speaker 1: the names they like on that board. But whether or

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Speaker 1: And if you're rooting for chaos, Sean, which you said

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Speaker 1: you were, Yes, I think you're in for a lot

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Speaker 1: of at night tonight, Kyle Yeoman's David Helman, Brian brought us,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Thought. I'm Sean Shreef here opening up our twenty

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Speaker 1: the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Let's go around

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Speaker 1: the room with your own personal wish list. Well, you

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Speaker 1: want to do wish list or position and need which

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Speaker 1: I'll go with the player you know, and I have

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Speaker 1: Green above Johnson. But you know, we'll see I believe

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Speaker 1: saying I think the guy that will most likely be

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Speaker 1: It's nothing like you know that's going to should keep

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Speaker 1: to monitor. So but to me, I'd like to see

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Speaker 1: them fix this offensive line, and I think adding either

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Speaker 1: draft Tyler Lindebom, the center from Iowa. But the fact

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Speaker 1: that Zion Johnson's going to be the center or could

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Speaker 1: be a projected center. Yeah, So then to me, taking

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Speaker 1: there's reckless me and then there's pragmatically, like if both

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Speaker 1: your reckless wide receiver, if you're asking for my wish list,

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Speaker 1: I just think the positions that I've other than like

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Speaker 1: the really beastly guys that the Cowboys have no shot

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Speaker 1: this team, it would be Jamison Williams. Now if I

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Speaker 1: not being able to run the ball or block effectively

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Speaker 1: as you needed to? And that's where the press. The

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Speaker 1: and maybe you just fix that and doesn't matter how

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Speaker 1: fast Jamison Williams is that if Dak Prescott's getting sacked

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Speaker 1: five times. So I'm totally on board with that line

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Speaker 1: of thinking. And I'm going to go all the way

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Speaker 1: back to one of the first draft shows that we

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Speaker 1: had throughout this offseason, and Brian brought up the point

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Speaker 1: that if you're not doing something to help your quarterback

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Speaker 1: be successful, then I don't want to even talk about it.

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Speaker 1: And sure, having Jamison Wilson or Williams, excuse me, we'll

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Speaker 1: have a certain impact on Dak Prescott. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you're fixing the offensive line could necessarily say

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Speaker 1: that that that's lesser than Jamison Williams are hating having

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Speaker 1: another wide receiver. You've got a block, you've got to

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Speaker 1: establish a run game, because if you don't, I think

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's in the same boat that he was in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. I totally get it. It's just not fun.

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Speaker 1: That's not fun. It'll be fun. It'll be fun. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say it'll be fun when they're rushing for

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty yards. Again, the depth is a

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Speaker 1: it Penning Cross whoever. I don't care whichever one slides

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Speaker 1: Do it. Then use the third and fourth on the

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Speaker 1: this stupid whispering about this dude's personality or whatever his

427
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: issue is. I have not heard anything convincing as to

428
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: why he should fall further than certainly the top three.

429
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: What are the knocks that literally, like basically people are

430
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: just vaguely like, oh, he's sort of a jerk, like

431
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: he's kind of a diva. I'm like, so what, he's

432
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: a pro football player when we see as an ego.

433
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: When we were at the combine, Dane put it beautifully.

434
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 1: He said, whenever you get Dave interviews, Dane, it was

435
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: this time. Dane put it as when you have these

436
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,719
Speaker 1: interviews with with Cabon Thibodeau, you have to pull up

437
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 1: one seat for Tibadeau, then you got to pull up

438
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: another one for his ego. That That was the way

439
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: he put it blatantly. Isn't that what you want from

440
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: a franchise changing grade? See, that's the thing you people.

441
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of people feel like

442
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: Sauce is the same energy. So you see what he

443
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: rolled up to the draft. It's not just it's not no,

444
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: I didn't he called himself to chosen one today. It's

445
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: it's it's not just the ego. I don't think I

446
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: think that will of view him as he's a little

447
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 1: bit emotionally explosive, then that he's a culture question there

448
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,959
Speaker 1: on that front, and then I don't want to get

449
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: too deep into what it. But I mean there's always

450
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: there's been chattered about some of his circle, which and

451
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: some of the people he keeps around. And I'm not

452
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: taking a shot at you, but that's my point is

453
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: like all all you can really get with this guy's

454
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: like vague platitudes of why oh well, there are some

455
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: kind of like tell me something, I'll text you it.

456
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: I don't say it to no microphone, but I'll text you.

457
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: I'll say this though, there might be if you can

458
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: give me something that's legitimately concerning, I'm listening. But otherwise

459
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: he's a stud. I agree on the Thibodeau part of it, though,

460
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: but I will say three of you have Tibodeau, yes,

461
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: but I have Gardeners my number two. If you just

462
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: if you wanted my top five, I said, Thibadeau, Gardner, Cross, Hutchinson,

463
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: those are my top five. I will say this if

464
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 1: I if I was in Jacksonville right now, if I

465
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: if I was making the call for them, I would

466
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: draft whichever tackle you like that. I don't care, but

467
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: euan Neil, I would draft them because they just signed

468
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson. I don't care if they got Brandon Sure

469
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: if too. Give Trevor Lawrence the best offensive line in

470
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: football and see what he can do. That's what I

471
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: would do. John Ogden played guard before he played tackle.

472
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: And you know that, John, because you lived in that

473
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: part of the world. Yeah, you know. So don't tell

474
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: me these guys can't. You can't go get the best

475
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: guy and play him somewhere else and then move him

476
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: to where you have to move him. But I think

477
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: the thing with Thibodeau, and this is what's going to happen,

478
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: because next year, when we're doing this all together, it's

479
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: going to be like we're gonna be talking about a

480
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: bunch of Thibodeaus. They care about their ego and they

481
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: care about their These players are going to start getting

482
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: paid or to play football in college. Yeah, it's going

483
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: to be about brands. It's going to be about flash,

484
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: it's going to be about product placement and all that stuff.

485
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: Are we going to say, oh, well this guy next year,

486
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: Oh he really doesn't like football. No, we're saying that

487
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: because maybe this guy might be a little bit of

488
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: a jerk. And yeah, you're right, Bobby. Maybe there's people

489
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 1: that you know at Oregon will tell you though, well,

490
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: hey man, this guy is kind of like he doesn't

491
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: want to play all the time. He doesn't want to

492
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: He's a little bit like, hey, i'd shut it down

493
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: or something like that. I guarantee you're about to say

494
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, I mean that was one of

495
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: the things you're about. Two three times this year had

496
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: told people at Oregon, I'm opting out after something had

497
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: gone wrong. Yeah, he got hurt. He told them he

498
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: was opting out. They lost to Stanford. He told him

499
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: he was opting out. Like there's a little bit of

500
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: a emotional volatiler stations about our guy Derek Stingley, just

501
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: for whatever that's worth. Yeah, there were some of that

502
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: with Mica too, not to that severity, but that when

503
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: we see guys go up and mosey up to the

504
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: podium in mink coats or cut off shirts or they're

505
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: bedazzled or whatever. The kids are saying. Yeah, I could

506
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: say that that's ego. I could say that that's why

507
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: it's got to run deeper. Yeah, it's got to run.

508
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: Do you think do you think it's legit concerns on Tipodeaux.

509
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: I think there's some things around him. Like I said,

510
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't know so much that there are things about him,

511
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: his ego, everything else like that. Again, the emotional volatility,

512
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: wondering how does that fit into a locker room? How

513
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: coachable is he? That's another thing about the ego there

514
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: is that it's not just an ego like outside, but

515
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: it's also an go in terms of are you gonna

516
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: be able to be coached? Are we gonna be able

517
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: to like work on some of these things with you?

518
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: Because I know that the general consensus from people I

519
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: talked around the NFL is that Thibodeau is not a

520
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: finished product, that there's still a lot raw about him

521
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: that they that will need to be coached out of him.

522
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: And so if that's difficult, it's gonna be tough. All right,

523
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: Let's move off of him and go to some of

524
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: the other guys that you absolutely love. Kyle, who are

525
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: you in love with? At the top of this board,

526
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: I mean Ikey Aquanu, NC State offensive tackle. He's my

527
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 1: top offensive tackle. I mean, he's just a mean streak.

528
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: He was the biggest bully in college football. Is one

529
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: of the things that I put on my notes about him.

530
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: I think he's a plugin play instant decade of success

531
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: at the tackle spot. Other guys. We mentioned Sauce Garden

532
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: around at Cincinnati cornerback. I know for a fact that

533
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: he is the cowboys top corner now, not very much

534
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 1: so in their realm, and nor will he fall, at

535
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: least not anticipated to fall past that five six seven

536
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: spot to where they would even have a chance to

537
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: go up and get him. Other names up there, Kyle

538
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: Hamilton's safety out of Notre Dame flies around the field

539
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: sideline to sideline sort of guy. And then Derek Stingley

540
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: Junior from LSU, along with the edge rushers that I

541
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier. That's almost my entire top five or top ten.

542
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: Who do you love, Dave? I think, well, I think

543
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: that's going back to what we were talking about the beginning.

544
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: It feels like there's like eight to ten names that

545
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: everybody agrees are kind of a cut above the rest, right,

546
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: and then like once you get past, I'll just throw

547
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: Drake London out there as like the tenth or eleventh guy.

548
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: That's when all hell breaks loose. So like I think

549
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 1: Kyle set it up perfectly. I already said it, so

550
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: I'll be brief, but like I freaking love Jamison Williams.

551
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: I love the guy. I mean, and he's not just fast,

552
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: Like we're not talking about who was the kid that

553
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: Oakland drafted Darius Heyward Bay, We're ain't talking about that.

554
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: Like he can run routes, he can go inside outside,

555
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: like he can be physical. He's not like the biggest

556
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: receiver in the world, but he can do whatever you

557
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: need him to on top of being fast as hell.

558
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: Does the injury worre you know, an Acs' twenty two

559
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: to throw it out there as the same thing. We're

560
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: living in a world where Cam Akers can tear his

561
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: achilles at minicamp and be ready for the playoffs, Like,

562
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: absolutely not. I'm not worried about it brought us. Who

563
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: else is on the top of your board Devin Lloyd,

564
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: linebacker from Utah. And I'm thinking about this as a

565
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: sixty three, two hundred and thirty seven pounds And you

566
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: talk to scouts, Skis and Gallis around the league, They'll

567
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: tell you this might be the closest thing to Michael

568
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: Parsons in this draft because you talk about a guy

569
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: that can finish, you talk about a guy and he

570
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: might play past defense better than Michael Parsons did. So

571
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like, though that whoever drafts Devin

572
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: Lloyd keep an eye on New England at twenty one.

573
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: That would be one of those ones where I would go,

574
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: they understand the player, so I and I mean Kyle's

575
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: reference from there. But I think there's just been a

576
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: stunning lack of discussion in the last couple of months

577
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: about Kyle Hamilton. Yep, Kyle Hamilton to be it. And

578
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: I know people didn't like, Oh, he ran a four

579
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: seven at Pro Day, and well, I think that's your

580
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: aunts and there were some bad hap Well he ran

581
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 1: a four or five nine, and the reason he ran

582
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: a four seven was bad habits. He went home, apparently

583
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: and just diddled too much fun in Atlanta. I don't

584
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: even know this funny just didn't work. He didn't he

585
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 1: didn't go to work. And so that's that's a concerning thing.

586
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: You don't love hear him. But to me, I think

587
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: just when I watched his tape, you watch him against

588
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: Florida State, you watch some of the stuff he does,

589
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: it's he's so instinctual. I think against the run, I

590
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: think that even though there are questions about the way

591
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: he can cover, I think that he's he's really good

592
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: at seeing things a step ahead of everybody else, even

593
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: in coverage at times. And so I love Kyle Hamilton.

594
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: That's a guy that I would absolutely feel fine if

595
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: I was the Cowboys, if they were up there picking

596
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: him the top five, That's who I'd want would be

597
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton. How much has positional value impacted y'all's view

598
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: and scouting on all of this? We just talked about

599
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: a linebacker, which there was a lot of angry people

600
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: last year over Michael Parsons the Cowboys. I don't even

601
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: think knew he could rush the pastor like that dan Quinn.

602
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn got that out of him, for sure. Yeah,

603
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: but the people there's people in the organization and a

604
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: George Edwards, the linebackers coach, I asked him that question.

605
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: He's like, he goes, no, we knew this guy had

606
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: that ability. Yeah, And I'm like, man, he didn't even

607
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: play last year, right, how did you know that? But

608
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: you're talking about linebacker? Bobby said, he's stunned at the

609
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: you know, the lack of talk about Hamilton. He's a safety,

610
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: right see all the and I think Hamilton's a great

611
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: example though, And you're you're absolutely right, and that was

612
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: not to like, like, my first immediate question is can

613
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: Hamiltons cover? Yeah, I think he can. I think you

614
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: can't see I think I think because if there's a question,

615
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: then you know, I think Dax's Hill, the Michigan safety,

616
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: can cover better. How about that? Because then if he can't,

617
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: if that, if he's not a plus there, then you know,

618
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: I think Jamal Adams and let's let's move along. See.

619
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: I think j Hamilton is a great example. I think

620
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: Hamilton is like where football is going because, like I

621
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: just I kind of feel like that Hamilton was when

622
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: I was starting to draft in the early nineties, that

623
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: big bang yeah, like the side look at all the

624
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: stuf Taylor maze usc way back in the day. I mean,

625
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: we're not We're not talking about a guy and I

626
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 1: think he can do some of this, But we're not

627
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: talking about Ed Reid, who's gonna be like off the

628
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: screen on tape. You remember playing listen to me, you

629
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: repeat your stories a lot. We're not talking about while

630
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: we're talking. We're talking and this is gonna sound silly

631
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: because he was a seventh round pick, but we're talking

632
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: about jay Ron Curse. Like we're talking about a guy

633
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: who can do some cover. He can play in the slot.

634
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: These tight ends are getting bigger and more athletic and

635
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: getting more of a part of the passing game. You

636
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: can go down in the box and take that guy away,

637
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Speaker 1: like that's what you use a Kyle ham Don't you

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Speaker 1: look at don't you look like? We will told the

639
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Speaker 1: story with you guys after they picked Tony Pollard that

640
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Speaker 1: there was a specific run in the Senior Bowl where

641
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: they saw it, and they go like there is, yeah,

642
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: and like they can see some of those things and

643
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: there are moments where you see it. To me, it's

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Speaker 1: like when you talk about Hamilton's like, yeah, is it

645
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: always consistent coverage? No? You know, can he play center

646
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Speaker 1: field like Ed Reid? No? But the play I go

647
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Speaker 1: back to is he's on the opposite hash against Florida State.

648
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: They're rolling out and he just comes out of nowhere

649
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Speaker 1: to the opposite sideline and just jumps in front of

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Speaker 1: the receiver. That was. That's as good as any free safety.

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Speaker 1: You see him play a lot of slot. You do

652
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Speaker 1: see him play a lot of the spot, But I

653
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Speaker 1: don't know if you want to put him in the

654
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Speaker 1: slot against NFL guys, put him in the slot against

655
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Speaker 1: who though, like put him in the slot against the

656
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: tiny little slot. That's what I'm saying again, Okay, Kelsey,

657
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Speaker 1: but we say what we've seen with these slot players

658
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Speaker 1: over the you know, over the years now here, I mean,

659
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Speaker 1: how effective the slot players. I'm not trying to kill

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Speaker 1: the kid. I'm just saying, though, there's things you see

661
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Speaker 1: him do at Notre Dame when he's playing Virginia in

662
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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech and people like that. You're like, oh, that's

663
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Speaker 1: pretty damn impressive. You know, he moves well for a

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Speaker 1: six four guy. He really really, really really does. He's

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Speaker 1: a physical player. He's a great tackler, I think. But

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Speaker 1: you know, it's funny you say that about Curse. We

667
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: were all like, oh, here's another one of those cowboys signings.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a safety Clinton Dicks, Oh you know,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff like that. You know, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we were we weren't given curse. Dan Quinn.

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Speaker 1: If you tell me you're gonna take if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: take this Notre Dame safety and you're gonna and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna play them, I'm saying, yaya. Because of dan Quinn,

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Speaker 1: anybody else might Nolan, I might be going, WHOA would

675
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Speaker 1: you just do? But there are Covin after Kelvin, Joseph

676
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Speaker 1: and Nasham, right, I think you know what? I think

677
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Speaker 1: they knew about the plan. No, no, no, I no, no,

678
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Speaker 1: I'm joking half what I'm saying though, as far as

679
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: how about this they were thinking about at this time

680
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Speaker 1: last year, drafted a cornerback? I mentioned sir Tann and

681
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: Horn even though they had all three of these starters.

682
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: And now we're not really talking about drafting a corner here,

683
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: are we, because everybody's like, whoa. Dan Quinn made these

684
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Speaker 1: guys play a lot better than they are. Tray Bon

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Speaker 1: Digg's taking a step and having eleven interception certainly helped

686
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Speaker 1: that conversation. Yeah, dan Quinn and those guys putting them

687
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Speaker 1: in position to make plays. I just think to go

688
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Speaker 1: back to the original question, what scares me about Burks?

689
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Speaker 1: They are like the money. I love Burks more than

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Speaker 1: anybody else does, too, Yeah, because I got to make

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Speaker 1: him do what you need to do. They are like

692
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: these positions where you only need to be good at

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Speaker 1: one thing to be good like edge rusher, quarterback obviously cornerback.

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Speaker 1: You're like go out to the boundary and just take

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Speaker 1: care of that guy. If you're not one of those

696
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Speaker 1: safety linebacker, you got to be able to do a

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Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. And that's what scared us about Mica

698
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Speaker 1: is like, is he just gonna tackle people that's not valuable?

699
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Speaker 1: But that's not all he does, and I feel the

700
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Speaker 1: same way about him. I'm not sure if everyone's aware,

701
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: but a lot of Cowboy fans are a little bit

702
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: irritated over this offseason and people think Stephen Jones has

703
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: turned into the number one sports villain in town. And

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00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: the question has become have they put too much pressure

705
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Speaker 1: on the guy running this show that starts tonight? We'll

706
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Speaker 1: answer that question next. Is there too much pressure on

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Speaker 1: Will McClay. This is the twenty twenty two NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: on one O five Through the Fan and Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com. What up, Dallas Cowboys dot Com crew, we

710
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Speaker 1: are still here. Sean Shariffe, Kyle Yeoman's, Dave helm and

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00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: Brian brought us some Bobby Belt. I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you guys about opinions changing. Yeah, should they change? When

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Speaker 1: do they change? Because we're talking about Thibadeau. He was

714
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: the number one pick and now he's twelve. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about Walker. He was in the second round and now

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Speaker 1: he's the number one pick. So, Brian, you've lived this, Yeah,

717
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Speaker 1: when does it change? What changes and influences you in

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Speaker 1: terms of and then you say I should have just

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Speaker 1: stuck with that original fie. No, No, this is where

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Speaker 1: And I appreciate Kyle bringing this up though, because I

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Speaker 1: think that if you you know, tonight, people were asking

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Speaker 1: me because I had I post my board and I

723
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Speaker 1: don't know how to do the Google thing all that

724
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Speaker 1: you can go on my Twitter and you know, I

725
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: don't know how to do all that crap you can

726
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: ask us. But but well I'll help, You'll just sound

727
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: to do it. But but but see he's pitching baseball

728
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: right now in Houston talking. But see that That's where

729
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm at right now, because people are like, well, you

730
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: didn't have didn't have Johnson here, you didn't have this guy.

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Speaker 1: You didn't have this guy. And I said, that's my board.

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00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm proud of my work, you know. I mean, I

733
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: think that's where you have to be right now. Now.

734
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: See we're doing it as individuals them. There's a lot

735
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: of things, you know, there's a lot of that what

736
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: we think that group group think, and that's what you

737
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: get a team like the Rams. The Rams aren't interested

738
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Speaker 1: in group think anymore. When I was a scout back

739
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: in the day, we were interested in group think. Oh,

740
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: let's all get together and put our name on this

741
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: and put them up on the board. You know. That's

742
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: that's what we're That's what we did in the nineties,

743
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, And I think today we're kind of been

744
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: a little bit more. But there's teams like say, Will McClay.

745
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: He's got a tough job where he's got to manage

746
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: the coaches, the scouts, and the Joneses. There's nobody else

747
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: in the league that has to do what he does.

748
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Speaker 1: And I know we're going to talk about that in

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Speaker 1: the next segment, but I think that I think if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do this, you know, and you don't have

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00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: to like just follow along the group. Yeah, if you've

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00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: got four or five, six, eight nine guys, people will

753
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: remind you if you suck at this, you do it

754
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: long enough, they'll remind you of all your busts a lot.

755
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: Your owner will say it in a press conference prior

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00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: to the draft. Sure, Dave, what changes for you having

757
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: done this for a number of years now, and at

758
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: what time when you're like, this should be the cutoff point.

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00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with. I'm sticking with what I what I saw,

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Speaker 1: Oh I heard, well, so see that this is the

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Speaker 1: this is they're tweeting about this, that the late influence

762
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Speaker 1: is getting in your head. This is the debate that

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Speaker 1: I have all the time with guys like Brian and

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Speaker 1: and other people that do this. Is like, I try

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Speaker 1: to remove my own opinion from it because, like you know,

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Speaker 1: Brian's Brian stakes his reputation on this, where he's like,

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Speaker 1: this is what I think, whereas I'm more along, I'm

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Speaker 1: more of the opinion of like what I think does

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Speaker 1: not matter. It doesn't. I don't care it does matter.

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Speaker 1: It does. It doesn't though, because they're gonna sit up

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00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: there and make their pick, and they've never once in

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00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: a decade asked me what I thought. I'm waiting. I'm

773
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: waiting for that day. But it allows us to judge

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Speaker 1: you not fine. I know they may have been twenty twenty.

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00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: You wanted Ceedee Lamb as much as anybody I think

776
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: everyone in the world wanted. They may have asked you

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00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: that yet, but she didn't get a chance to you

778
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Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about it a story here or

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00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: a leaked rumor there. What's so, it's funny the way

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00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: the ebbs and flows of this thing work, man, Because

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00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: I did say that, like late influence can can be

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00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: a bummer sometimes. But also these last three days before

783
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Speaker 1: the draft, that's when people start saying the juicy stuff too.

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Speaker 1: Like again, I mean, yeah, Tyler Smith is not um

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00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: that ain't bs like that is something that's a name too,

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Speaker 1: at least no, a possible cowboy, yes, And nobody was

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00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: on that until earlier this week, or at least not

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Speaker 1: I've seen his name actually on Twitter. People were asking

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Speaker 1: me because people were mocking that, you know, and like

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Speaker 1: mel Kiper and those guys mocking that the mel Kipers

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Speaker 1: of the world don't do stuff on a whim. Not

792
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Speaker 1: a week before in the draft, no, not in a word,

793
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Speaker 1: Who was it? Josh Norris shout out he got seventeen

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Speaker 1: picks right last year. You think that's blind luck or

795
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: do you think it's having a good network of contact.

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Speaker 1: I will say I brought up Tyler Smith based off

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Speaker 1: of stuff that I was hearing in Indie because I

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Speaker 1: did hear something in Indie and you can go back

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Speaker 1: and listen to it on the on the Draft show.

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Speaker 1: We're sitting there in the radio row and there was

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Speaker 1: a moment when I brought up Tyler Smith the Dane,

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Speaker 1: and that's when Dane initially was like, man, I just

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Speaker 1: don't I don't know, like and that's where we kind

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Speaker 1: round prospect, but at twenty four, at that point we

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Speaker 1: felt like it was too rich. I still feel that

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Speaker 1: way to a certain extent for me, But it goes

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Speaker 1: back to what Brian was saying in our opening segment.

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Speaker 1: Just because you have him as a second round grade

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Speaker 1: at thirty thirty five, whatever, doesn't mean you can't take

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Speaker 1: him at twenty four. Because if you can't, if you

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Speaker 1: don't take him at twenty four, you're not gonna see

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Speaker 1: him last until fifty six. And also, to the point

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Speaker 1: we made earlier, Brian's forty five could be there twenty two,

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Speaker 1: irate the fan base has been in the off season.

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Speaker 1: We're used to them not spending. I know that's a

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Speaker 1: but compensation from Maury Cooper, Leo Collins rolling out the door,

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Speaker 1: bringing in some no names, the Randy Gregory debacle, the

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Speaker 1: According to Jerry the other day, Bobby Belt, where are we?

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Speaker 1: Where are we, mister Cowboys insider with this Cowboys offseason?

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Speaker 1: And is the question fair that this team is putting

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Speaker 1: way too much pressure on Will McClay to continue to

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Speaker 1: hit home run draft picks I mean, does will feel

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Speaker 1: that way. I don't know. Do they feel that way?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, But just from my perspective when I

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Speaker 1: look at it's like, that's a lot you're putting on

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Speaker 1: them consistently every year of like we'll go bargain bin

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Speaker 1: shop and maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't, but

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Speaker 1: you know that we can trust that our scout and

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Speaker 1: stuff do that. It's a it's a great compliment to them,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a vote of confidence in them. And

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00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's great, but it is a lot of

847
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: pressure to go, man, especially in a draft like this

848
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: where you don't feel like there's going to be a

849
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: first round necessarily right where you're picking, and then you

850
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: have to weigh like, well, how much do you want

851
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: to sacrifice? Some want to give up? When I when

852
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: I've been talking about some of these calls about do

853
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: they give up a second? Do they give up a third?

854
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: You know, I've heard chatter about that that they could

855
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: go up. Somebody around the league who's very connected had

856
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: reached out to me today it was like, I don't

857
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: see really anybody giving up a second or a third

858
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: unless they are going up for elite because in this

859
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: draft like, that's where everybody wants their picks right now, second, third, fourth, fifth.

860
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: They don't want to they don't want to move around

861
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: the first. That's why nobody's trying to go up right now.

862
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: And so I think it's gonna be really tough for

863
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: the fan base to, you know, feel great about where

864
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: things are after this weekend, just because there's no studs

865
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: at the top. No matter what they do, there's going

866
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: to be a section of the fan base that's going

867
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: to be upset with it, and it's gonna complain about

868
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: it because well, you didn't get a lineman or oh

869
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: you you trade it up to get this, and you

870
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: sacrifice this and we have too many holes. People are

871
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: going to be upset regardless. But yeah, there they're in

872
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: a very frustrated state, the most fresh night I can

873
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: recall them being in several years. The fan base, you

874
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: guys live in this building. Do you think that Will

875
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: McClay can keep going in for raises every off season

876
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: based upon this formula? I mean, since twenty ten, no

877
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: team in the NFL has had more all Pro draft

878
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: picks in the entire league than the Dallas Cowboys. The

879
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: scary part about that is that since twenty ten, no

880
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: team in the NFL has had more all pro draft picks,

881
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: because at some point your luck runs out, right. I

882
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: mean a lot of this is, yes, it's preparation, it's homework,

883
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: it's being in the right spot at the right time

884
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: in terms of a draft pick, but a lot of

885
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: it is the players working out to your favor as well.

886
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: And last year you felt like Micah Parsons fell in

887
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: your lap. That wasn't necessarily Hey, we're going into this

888
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: drafting Micah Parsons. They made the adjustment, they made the pick,

889
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: and ultimately he ends up being the defensive rookie of

890
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: the year. That's not always going to happen. So, going

891
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: back to what Bobby was saying a moment ago, if

892
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: you're not adding that talent, you're not adding that supplemental

893
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: free agency help. At some point along the way, that

894
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: pressure ultimately is going to force a crack. I don't

895
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: want it to happen, of course, being in this building

896
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: and working with the fantastic crew across the way, and

897
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: they do a great job of drafting, don't get me wrong,

898
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: But it's just the law of averages. At some point

899
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: it will even out. You just don't want it to

900
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: be sooner rather than later. That's that last part. Just

901
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: cut that out and play it again, because that's Will.

902
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: I think the world of Will's I say it every

903
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: every year. I beat it into the ground. He's one

904
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 1: of my favorite people in this organization. As a guy,

905
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: I think he's awesome at his job. The track record

906
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 1: speaks for itself. He's been running the draft since fourteen.

907
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean put it up against anybody in the league.

908
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: Firmly believe that he's had some stinkers too. He's got

909
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 1: to wear taco He does he? Stephen did? He? Depends

910
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: on who you asked earlier in the week. Hey, they

911
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: all have a hand in it. And so if even

912
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: somebody with Will mcclay's track record can have that on

913
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: his resume. Twenty nineteen class, I know they didn't have

914
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: a first round pick, but other than Tony Pollard doesn't

915
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: look wonderful. So it is possible for even somebody as

916
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: great as they are at this to screw this up.

917
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: And when you're not bringing talent into your roster any

918
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: other way, short answer, Sean, Yes, they are putting way

919
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: too much pressure on their scouting. Most Pro Bowl players

920
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: who said, since two thy since twenty ten coaching coaching.

921
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: Think about that, Yeah, bringing in guys, bringing in talent.

922
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: Ten years of Jason Garrett, ten years of trying to

923
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: figure out Scott Lenahan and whoever else. You know, Give

924
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: me ten years of Dan Quinn using these players, you know, gimme,

925
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: gimme guys that, like I say, we learned a lot

926
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: about this. We were begging for this defense to be

927
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: middle of the road. Yeah, top five scoring defense and

928
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: all that stuff. They didn't. I mean, they added guys,

929
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: they added they but they added you know, they added

930
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: the defensive but basically the defensive player of the year.

931
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: But think about that, Think about all those picks and

932
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: how frustrated you might be if you're if you're a

933
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: player personnel guy, and you're like, damn, I'm giving them players.

934
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: Why are we not having success? Yeah? You know, and

935
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: it's you know, and I'm and will and him not

936
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: going to point the finger at the coaches, but I will,

937
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: I'll point the finger at those guys and say, listen,

938
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: you wasted a lot of guys here. Garrett's on Twitter,

939
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: and I'll be careful, I don't care, you know, but

940
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: you know he has to look at that he got

941
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 1: let go. You know, they gave him ten years here

942
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: with a damn good roster, you know, and that you

943
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: got to look at that, and we loved dan Quinn.

944
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: Now right, he loved dan Quinn because he's taken players

945
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: and putting them in positions to make plays. I'll tell

946
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: you another thing about this, Oh boy, I love it

947
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: when he get nervous. No, what are you nervous about

948
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: when you have job security? Yeah, we've talked about this

949
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: on the Draft show. You're not going inhere. None of

950
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: these guys are going anywhere. Will McClay is very happy

951
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: about being here. They're comfortable with Will McClay. Will mcclay's

952
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: figured out how to marry the coaches with the Joneses

953
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: with the scouts. Hard thing to do. They're he's not

954
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: Will's not going. He's had opportunities, but you know, he's

955
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: got family. But really, if you know, Jason Light at

956
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: Tampa several years ago, but three years ago, two years ago,

957
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: his butt was on the line. He gets Tom Brady

958
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: in his lap, he's gonna get fired. My man, let's

959
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: snead out there f them picks. He's talking to me

960
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: like Cruden's gonna come here and blow me out. Bro.

961
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: You got you know, you got the wonder boy coach

962
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: you know who doesn't really care about the draft. That's

963
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Sometimes it's about those coaches. Sometimes it's

964
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: about the people you bring in. You know, when you

965
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: don't have security, you will do whatever you have to

966
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: do to build your roster. That's somebody else's problem, Bro,

967
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: I traded away all the first round picks for the

968
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: next two years. Yeah, that's somebody else's deal. It doesn't

969
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: happen here. A lot of security here. I've said that

970
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: a few times this year is and like that. They

971
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: will never they would never admit this publicly. But I

972
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: just wonder, are we allowed to talk like this in

973
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: this building. I haven't done this before. Oh no, they're

974
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: not afraid. We're not. They're not afraid. They'll let you

975
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: go as you're fair. We might be, we might be

976
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: team employees, but hey, they let us say it and be.

977
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: Maybe we're not everybody's favorite employee because of it, but

978
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: that's okay. I got rid of me. Um No, I

979
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: just behind closed doors. Like you hear it from the

980
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: fan base all the time. They're not better on paper

981
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: than they were last year, they are not. Dalton Schultz

982
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: said that, yeah, there we go exactly, and one of

983
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: the guys they brought back. I just wonder if behind

984
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: closed doors they're like, that's okay. This like like we're

985
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: good enough to win the East. We might not be

986
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: a contender, but that's okay. We'll be in better cap

987
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: shape next year. We'll have more money. And again this

988
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: is in their meetings, they're saying, we're gonna kill this draft.

989
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: We're just we're gonna add three badasses. We'll win the East.

990
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: Maybe we you know, we we we're not gonna take

991
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: another step this year, but we can take steps in

992
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: twenty three and twenty four. And they can't say that

993
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: out loud because it would piss off their fans. But

994
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: it's a very plausible idea to me that they feel

995
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: that way well. And McCarthy even said it to lead

996
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: off the press conference the other day where he said,

997
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: I think what you guys perceive our needs are and

998
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: what we think our needs are is going to be different.

999
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: And I think that when you look at I think

1000
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: they think they're I think no, I think they have

1001
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: I think they believe they've got a lot of the

1002
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: talent in place that they need. Yes, they need a

1003
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: starting an offensive linemen right now. They've talked very openly

1004
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: about that. They probably need another receiver, they need some

1005
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: of these things. I think what they feel like, and

1006
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: part of this process has been about I think I

1007
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: think what they feel like they're missing in a lot

1008
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: of ways isn't always the talent. I think they're worried

1009
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: about the intangibles and the toughness and the leadership trade

1010
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 1: and I think they that's been part of this process.

1011
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: I think for them. I think that's why you've heard

1012
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: some of the ties that they love how tough Trerever

1013
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: Penning is. They love the chip on his shoulder. I

1014
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: think I think that's part of this evaluation more so

1015
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: than maybe in years past. They're looking for toughness, they're

1016
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: looking for guys who have the intangibles, and they're also

1017
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: looking down the road as well, because you and Pinning

1018
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: being an example, Tyler Smith offensive tackle from Tulsa being

1019
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: an example. Right now this day and age, at this

1020
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: point in the time, offensive tackle isn't the number one

1021
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: need for the Cowboys, But in two years it might be.

1022
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: Because in three years it might be, they might be

1023
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: in eight games, and you're exactly right. The tyrant Smith

1024
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: thing continues to hover over every season, and I think

1025
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: they're tired of that to a certain extent. So if

1026
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: even if they do take a tackle this year, which

1027
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: I think Bobby's spot on with Pinning, and then of

1028
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: course you've heard the rumors with Smith, if they take

1029
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: a tackle, that's looking at maybe an interior fixed short term,

1030
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: and then you look long term into it being a

1031
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: potential tackle replacement moving into the future. They're trying to

1032
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: think about it that way. I'm not saying it's the

1033
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 1: right pick, or at least I'm not saying I would

1034
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: make that pick, but they've got different thought processes going

1035
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: on across the building than we even do in this room.

1036
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: We're just not used to as a fan base a

1037
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: step backwards off season. It's always it's always usually treading water.

1038
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: If we're being on Yeah, well maybe Jerry sells it

1039
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: a little bit more than that, but this feels like

1040
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: a legitimate step back off season. And I think, you know,

1041
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: people are angry that we're in the NFC East, whereas

1042
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: usually it's celebrated because it's like, oh, that allows them

1043
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: to get away with eleven and six, even though it

1044
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: could be a first round exit. That's what I'm saying is,

1045
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: you know, just looking at it, it's like, we can

1046
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: win the East with this roster. Yeah, absolutely they can

1047
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 1: because these sucks. They felt like they were close last

1048
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: year too, which is adding to the frustration of the

1049
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: step back this year too, because you felt like you

1050
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: were there, you were on the doorstep. Now, of course

1051
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: the way that it ended doesn't necessarily look like that

1052
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: you had a long way to go, but from a

1053
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: roster on paper standpoint, you felt like you had what

1054
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: it took to take a sea I can out run.

1055
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: I think they felt like that way for a lot

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Speaker 1: of the season. I think by the end of the season,

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00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: I think they felt like they had kind of gotten

1058
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: slapped in the face a little bit and like, oh,

1059
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: we're not quite where we thought we were. And I

1060
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: think that's why they weren't wanted to do a full rebuild.

1061
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: But I think they wanted to renovate. It's like fix

1062
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: up right parts of this That's a wonderful analogy. They're like,

1063
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: they're trying to renovate it on the fly. They're like,

1064
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: let's shed some of these bad contracts, I mean, if

1065
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: you take it back to Jalen that they got rid of,

1066
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: like what three hefty contracts that they didn't want to

1067
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: have to deal with. Now, I don't think all of

1068
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: those decisions were I don't get why Lyle Collins doesn't

1069
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: need to be on this team right now, Like that's

1070
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: weird to me. And I go back to what Bobby was.

1071
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't get Amari Cooper either, but

1072
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: that's beside the point they shed the salary. Maybe those

1073
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: two things you're talking about though, when you're saying the

1074
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: front office just not happy with either guy, Yeah, we're

1075
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: a little bit hypocritical. Yeah, you know, we forget so

1076
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: when the playoffs start, well, not when the playoffs start.

1077
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: When the playoffs continue, we're all tweeting the same thing.

1078
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't belong on the field with these guys. Cowboys

1079
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: will get smoked by Buffalo, Cowboys will get destroyed by

1080
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 1: this team or that team. And then when they show

1081
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: us maybe in the off season, hey we aren't what

1082
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: we thought we were. Let's get rid of these guys.

1083
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: These aren't twenty million dollar players. Then we get mad

1084
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: about it. So I'm a hypocrite with it. But we

1085
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: didn't think that we were on that championship level in

1086
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs. We're going on and maybe Jerry and Stephen

1087
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: were like, let's be really, maybe mid season you were.

1088
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: That's oh, I was mid season. The team we watched

1089
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: in December and January just wasn't the one that I

1090
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: thought it was. And that's that's Zeke getting injured. That's

1091
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 1: the offensive line falling apart. That's Dak refuses to blame

1092
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: the calf injury, but something happened to him. He was

1093
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: not the same. Yeah, people look at me sideways when

1094
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: I say this, Like he was in the thick of

1095
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: the MVP race. Was he was in October Kyler Murray

1096
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: and him. He was in the thick of There was

1097
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: an entire podcast on the Athletic after the Falcons game

1098
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: where it's like Dak Prescott is the MVP of the NFL.

1099
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: Robert May's and Nate Tice were like, are we crazy

1100
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: if we think Dak's the MVP? And that was a

1101
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: national conversation, and he wasn't that guy the second half

1102
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: of the season. Like I said, for whatever reason, I

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00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: love the toughness point though from from Bobby because when

1104
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: San Francisco walked down. Kyle Shannon was like talking smack

1105
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: before the playoff game, saying, we know that they don't

1106
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: want to handle our run game. And I was like, WHOA,

1107
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to be saying that, like making headlines.

1108
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 1: And when Deebo Samuel and Trent Williams were walking down

1109
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: that tunnel groundling Kodak black just blaring on it, I

1110
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: was like, ohh And then on that first drive we

1111
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: all said oh oh, and they got smacked in the

1112
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: mouth in their own stadium. Yeah to I mean, to

1113
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: a certain extent, that's what happened, and it happened. It

1114
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: wasn't just San Francisco that was the culmination. But you

1115
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: looked at throughout the year, Denver did it to him,

1116
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: Kansas City did it to him. They consistently we're getting

1117
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: out physical, and I think that's part of what they're

1118
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: trying to change. I do, I just I can't. I

1119
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: can't let go of the notion like on paper, No,

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Speaker 1: like I do, I think they are as good as

1121
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo or Kansas City, of course not, but like Cincinnati,

1122
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: that Tampa team that ranged up by the end of

1123
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: the year, the ram the one had us even with

1124
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: the Rams throughout the year. It's like a fifty fifty

1125
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: coin flip. They had an all star roster too, though

1126
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: they were I mean, they were exceptionally good and they

1127
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 1: played the best. I think the Cowboys roster was good enough.

1128
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: They just didn't play well enough for a variety of reason.

1129
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's get this thing going. That was a

1130
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: good first hour. Yeah, can can we maintain? Can we increase?

1131
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. There we go one two,

1132
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: three team. Uh, let's get this thing going. With Roger

1133
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: Goodell getting booed at the podium, it's the twenty twenty

1134
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: two NFL Draft getting ready to get officially started on

1135
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: one oh five through the fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

1136
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: I gotta take this call real quick. Boys. All right, guys,

1137
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: we continue on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Probably the longest

1138
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: that I've ever gone in a one hour draft built

1139
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: up without bringing up the most important position in all

1140
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: of sports. That would be the quarterbacks. Oh, you're not

1141
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: talking running back. I'm not talking running back. Kyle Kyle

1142
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: Gellman's Bobby Belt and Dave Hellman. How bad is this

1143
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: quarterback class? That's hard. We just laid out on that

1144
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: right there. I have a personal interest in this. For

1145
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: those that don't know, I host a morning show on

1146
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: the Cowboys flagship, and my co host and my producer, Troy,

1147
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: who's is running our broadcast tie on the radio side. Uh,

1148
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: they have a humongous bet involving a shock caller that

1149
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 1: if no, if no quarterback goes in the top ten,

1150
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: one will get shocked. If one does go in the

1151
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: top ten, the other will get lit up. On our

1152
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: morning shows. Who's who's on side? R J says, Shoppy's

1153
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 1: getting shock. A quarterback has to and will go top ten.

1154
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: I think Choppy's getting you do so Caroline at six?

1155
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: Will that determine it? We got a lot of we

1156
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: got a lot of teams in the top ten with

1157
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: quarterback needs. I think the Seattle technically could go there,

1158
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: but I don't think they will. They could, but yeah,

1159
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: I think the Panthers at six is probably the number

1160
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: one there. Giants just declined an option, but I don't

1161
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: know if they'll necessarily pull that trigger. You hearing anything

1162
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: Bobby from around now? And I'm these quarterbacks when we

1163
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: talk about the quarterback class, I'm gonna be so I'm

1164
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: so different than everybody else just after watching him, like

1165
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: everybody loves Willis, and like I think everybody feels like

1166
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: best about Willis's upside, sure, and I think everybody else

1167
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: feels like, oh, you know, Kenny Pickett's about the safest

1168
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: of them all, like like you can get him in

1169
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: and he'll plug in and he'll be a decent starter

1170
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: right away. To me, the two quarterbacks I like the

1171
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: most are Matt Carral from Old Miss, and I like

1172
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: way more than anybody else does. Apparently. I like Carson

1173
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: Strong at Nevada. I would I would like, I mean,

1174
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: if I was a team that needed a quarterback, I'd

1175
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: feel okay taking Strong in the top fifty. I think

1176
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: if Strong didn't have basically a reconstructed knee, he would

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00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: be in this first round conversation. I'm right there with you.

1178
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: I think he is a great quarterback in black form,

1179
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: gig and stand. Yeah, just get him a good offensive line.

1180
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: I think I might take Howell if I like had

1181
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: to bet on one of these guys beings like him.

1182
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: I think I like his athleticism, I like his toughness,

1183
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: and I just can't help but think about the fact

1184
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: that all of the talent on his team left a

1185
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: year before he did. Like, he had two running backs

1186
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: get drafted. He had some good receivers on that twenty

1187
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: twenty Carolina team. I just wonder if he just didn't

1188
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: have any help last year. I'm gonna chug my energy

1189
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: drink now, I'm gonna do it. Yeah, we're on. We're

1190
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: on dot com. Nobody cares. Are we talking about quarterboard back?

1191
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: We are your specialty. Yeah, I'm so good at this.

1192
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: I actually have gotten better. I have gotten better. Loved

1193
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: Mames and Alan. I didn't, and I took a lot

1194
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: of grief. I got Picket and then I got Willis

1195
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: Corral and how But I got Willis Corral and how

1196
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: All in the second round. So you flipped on Corral.

1197
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: I thought he was your top. Yeah, I started to

1198
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: kind of. I went back and I got some more tape. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I really do love his toughness. I think there's

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00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: there's something about his leadership is really really good. And

1201
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: I think guys gravitate towards him. I'll tell you what,

1202
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm gutless because I should have put Willis ahead of

1203
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: Picket is what I should haven't either, though. Yeah, I

1204
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: think that I think that Willis is really, really, really good.

1205
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. The guy that everybody's liking is

1206
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: our guy at Cincinna, Addie Ritter. I think everybody is

1207
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: starting to like, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if

1208
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: he went in the bottom of the first round. I

1209
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: could see Ritter in like the twenty five to thirty six.

1210
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: Let's make it happen. Willis is easily easily the most

1211
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: intriguing from a talent. He is electric. But the thing is,

1212
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: and I've like, I've heard this from people. I'm not

1213
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm not guessing, like I just how quickly can he

1214
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: be ready to play NFL football? Do we not care?

1215
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: Do we not care as much about who you face

1216
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: in college anymore? I mean, you know what, but heat

1217
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: his game against Old Miss if you want to watch

1218
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: Old Miss? And how because Liberty took some people to

1219
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: the matt did they? Virginia Tech was another one. I

1220
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: think that they were in a game like it was

1221
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: in Blacksburg that where they were just tote toe. This

1222
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: kid was a transfer from Auburn, so you knew that

1223
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: he had that that kind of that pedigree, you know,

1224
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: but they ran him off. But man, this guy was

1225
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: one of the most exciting players I scouted a year.

1226
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: When you're talking about all the things that he could do,

1227
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: and he took a beating in that Old Miss game.

1228
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: What do you think gave him a chance to win?

1229
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: What do you think about what they ask him to do? Though?

1230
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: Like is he ready to like drop? Can he like

1231
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: turn his back to the defense. He never got to

1232
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: do that though I was. I called the Liberty North

1233
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: Texas game, and I talked to Hugh frees going into that.

1234
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: The guy just raved about him. And Hugh Freeze has

1235
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: seen quarterbacks along the way that have been fantastic. He says,

1236
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 1: this guy's up there with any of the other ones

1237
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: that I've faced that I've coached in terms of off

1238
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: the field on the field. And he had zero offensive line.

1239
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: Let me let me reiterate that he had no offensive

1240
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: line to work with. All Right, we're getting ready to

1241
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: get this thing going from Vegas. Oh, they got the

1242
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: fountain going out there. Let's see what else they do

1243
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: as we get ready to rejoin the fan. Good evening, y'all.

1244
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: Ford Center at the Star is the site of our

1245
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Speaker 1: inside our Bobby Belt. Our lead Scalt Brian brought us

1247
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Speaker 1: in from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, David Hellman and Kyle

1248
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeoman's the scene is set. They are packed deep in

1249
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. A lot of people I would say the

1250
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: pandemic is over. I would say that that it is over,

1251
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: so a lot of intrigue. We still don't know what's

1252
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: happening at number one. With Jacksonville on the clock, then

1253
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: it will be the Detroit Lions, the Houston Texans, the

1254
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: New York Jets, and then the New York Giants will

1255
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: start to get things going. With the NFC East selections.

1256
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna pick at five and seven, with Carolina sandwiched

1257
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Speaker 1: in between. Give our listening audience a little little preview

1258
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Speaker 1: of what you guys are getting from this draft class.

1259
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Speaker 1: How how is this draft class defined in terms of

1260
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: the talent Bobby Belt. It's very very deep and at

1261
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: the top. You it's not your you necessarily want to

1262
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: be picking at the top. I don't think in terms

1263
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: of there's not the stud that you'd expect to get

1264
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: if you're picking on the top ten. I don't want

1265
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: to be picking one, but I would feel fine picking

1266
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: ten in the top ten. Like, if you told me

1267
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: I had a shot at SaaS Gardner, I'd be very happy. Well,

1268
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: it just just depends on what you need then. But

1269
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: but in terms of like I mean, you just hear

1270
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: some of these people they talk about consistently, like some

1271
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: of these teams, you hear them in the interviews talking

1272
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: about fourteen first round grades, fifteen first round grades and

1273
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that's going around they I mean,

1274
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: I think I think they're just preparing you to say, like,

1275
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take somebody that you know, probably

1276
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: in the twenties that you're gonna be like, who did

1277
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: you just take? And so that's I think there's a

1278
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: lot of uncertainty here. This is This is a a

1279
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: very fluid I think draft for everybody. It's not one

1280
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: of these things where well, the NFL has got to

1281
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: beat on all this, they know where this is going.

1282
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: I think they're just as confused as we are heading

1283
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: into this thing. I love that. I hope you're right.

1284
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,479
Speaker 1: I love that so much. That could happen. Yeah, Sean

1285
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: said it at the top of the show. Chaos. I

1286
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: want chaos. Absolutely, You're an agent of chaos. Yeah, man,

1287
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: I tell you what, all the years of doing this though,

1288
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: I don't have a great handle on this one. I

1289
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: really don't. Because again last night, the more I talk

1290
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: to people, and these are guys and gals in the league,

1291
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, and they're and they're talking about things, I'm going, okay, stop,

1292
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and they're trying to create you know,

1293
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: what if this happens, Well what if you know? And

1294
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, why don't you just how do you

1295
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: have your board? You know, how do you have your guys?

1296
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: And like, well, we have it, you know, And but

1297
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: it just seems like that they maybe Dave was talking

1298
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: about it, you're thinking about it too much, you know,

1299
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: you're thinking about it just you know, the teams, I

1300
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: think the teams that have the continuity to their drafting department,

1301
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: maybe this is an opportunity for a team like the

1302
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys that does have consistency the way they draft that

1303
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: maybe they won't be all over the place, maybe their

1304
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: board won't be like just totally out of whack like

1305
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: everybody else's. Keep hearing this story about how Shad Con,

1306
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: the owner of the Jags, is like having all these

1307
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: meetings with Doug Peterson and Trent Bulk and uh, just

1308
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: trying to get on the same page. I'm like that

1309
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: sounds exhausting. They all don't agree on Tuesday of draft week, Like, well, see,

1310
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: that's the problem. You gotta get to a like I

1311
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: used to get to a point when I would study

1312
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: for tests, where like it didn't matter if I'm just

1313
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: like I know it as well as I'm gonna know it,

1314
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: I'm shutting the damn book. Well, that's the problem. And

1315
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: again you talk about urban Meyer being the coach. There

1316
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: he leaves. You know, week thirteen, No, trimp, Balky was

1317
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 1: really not a general manager. Urban Meyer was the guy

1318
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: that was kind of running the personnel department and stuff

1319
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: like that. All of a sudden, Trent Balky comes back in.

1320
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: Everybody's going, well, Trent got you know, he was not

1321
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: really part of it. Now he's running it again. The

1322
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: jagstand base had like an active campaign to keep it

1323
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: from happening. Yeah, Kyle set us up position wise for

1324
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: strengths and weaknesses of this class. Yeah, I think edge

1325
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: rushers where it gets deep. You could say the same

1326
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: thing about wide receiver. Both of those positions. Edge is

1327
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: probably the most complete position group in the entire class,

1328
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: because you do have those top names. You have the

1329
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson's, you have the Cabon Thibodeaus, the Treyvon Walkers

1330
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: up at the top of the list. Then you've got

1331
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: those middle guys that you really feel comfortable about, what

1332
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: the George karlop this, the David Ojabos even with his

1333
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: achilles injury that he suffered on prote Then you've got

1334
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: the back end guys like a Sam Williams and Cameron

1335
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: Thomas and Arnold Avicatie that will go in day late,

1336
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: day two into day three that you feel like him

1337
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: be either developmental guys or impact guys early on. So

1338
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: I would say most complete class edge rusher, wide, receivers, deep.

1339
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: I would say offensive line not necessarily very deep, and

1340
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: then quarterback is not very top tight end. So tight

1341
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: end in there for me. Man, Oh yeah, no, I agree,

1342
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: because I'm sitting there. You know, there might not be

1343
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: a first round tight end. But we've talked about McBride

1344
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: from Colorado State, and then you know with Otton Woods,

1345
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: Rucker Cole, I mean, they've got some guys that can

1346
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: play once McBride goes. Yeah, they're all gonna go. I

1347
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a run and it's not. Again,

1348
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: it might not be in the second round, but there's

1349
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: going to be a run on these tight ends. Say

1350
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: we're talking, we're talking day two stuff here at the

1351
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: top of the first But but but what I'm fine, okay,

1352
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: but but okay, you mentioned the defensive ends, the wide receivers,

1353
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: the corners. I'll tell you this is a good safety

1354
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: group too. It is if you need to say, it's

1355
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: used only if you like, oh, we can't find a safety.

1356
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: And if you can't find a safety out of this

1357
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: draft at free or strong, then you don't need to

1358
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: be drafted. You'd be doing radio with me, you know

1359
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff because I feel like though that

1360
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: to me that that group's pretty deep. The corner is group.

1361
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, these linebackers, it's not a

1362
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: bad group. When you start to talk about the walkers

1363
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: to Christian Harris's Tyndale from Georgia, those types of guys.

1364
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: It's a very versatile linebacker class. That's very interesting. You

1365
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: have the guys that you look at as a potential

1366
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, where they can rush the past or they

1367
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: can come off the edge. They're almost a glorified stand

1368
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: up edge stuff like that. But then you've also got

1369
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: these small compact linebackers that are going to fly sideline

1370
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: the sideline. There's kind of a there's something for everybody

1371
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: from a linebacker standpoint, which bodes well for the Cowboys.

1372
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: How about these defensive tackles, how about at the one

1373
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: technique the big daddies with like Davis and Jones from

1374
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: a Yukon, matth Is from Alabama, Ridgeway Arc and so,

1375
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean those are big bodied one technique guys that

1376
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: I kind of have. All those three guys, Davis, Jones,

1377
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: math is around. Let me just get my satisfaction of

1378
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: hearing Roger Bood at the podium to open up this thing. Yes,

1379
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: here we go, let's go. Let's right, I guess, come on,

1380
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: ns Vegas, let's go. He's like, bring it harder. I'm

1381
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: used to worse. Okay, all right, that's enough. I just

1382
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: wanted to do it I was hoping for. Wasn't that

1383
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: weaker than years past? Guys. I'll tell you what I'm

1384
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: really he's with. I'm trying to figure out who the

1385
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: guys on the podium Waller and Um the other one

1386
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: was definitely Waller. I think future Green Bay Packer. Who

1387
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: is that On the end, Bobby Marcus Allen. Marcus Allen

1388
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: set us up for the Cowboys and some of the

1389
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: names they be they may be looking at tonight at

1390
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: twenty four. I think, if you're well, we'll have to

1391
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: see how the board plays out before we even start

1392
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: talking about trading up. I think we start talking about

1393
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: trading uplins we see we get towards like picks ten

1394
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: to eleven. Then we start seeing where the board is

1395
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 1: and we can figure out if we think it's something reasonable.

1396
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: I think if we're just talking about them, staying back

1397
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: at twenty four names, we need to know. You got

1398
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: Kenyan Green, the guard from Texas A and m Zion Johnson,

1399
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: the do it all lineman from Boston College. I think

1400
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: they think of his spot best might be at center.

1401
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he wouldn't necessarily play guard right out of

1402
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 1: the jump here, But um, I think you've got Treylan Burkes,

1403
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: they're super from Arkansas. He would be in contention there.

1404
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 1: And then when we've talked about some of these wipeout snares,

1405
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: we've heard the chatter about Tyler Smith at Tulsa the tackle.

1406
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: How about maybe as a trade back. I don't know

1407
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 1: about wipe out at twenty four potentially um or you know,

1408
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: we we've heard a little bit of chatter in recent

1409
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: days that you know, maybe Nakobe Dean would be a

1410
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: whiteout guy for them. Yea, which would blow my mind.

1411
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 1: Which would I think we encounter to a lot of

1412
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: their stuff. You gotta add Devin Lloyd to just again.

1413
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't expect Lloyd to be there

1414
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: is why fair, totally fair. But if if he's around

1415
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: in that range, sure he'd be in the conversation trying

1416
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: to read t leaves, knowing that he was a thirty visitor.

1417
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: I think it's worth mentioning more likely if there's one

1418
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: to move back or move up. Bobby, what you say

1419
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were likely to do up or down? I

1420
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: think they're more likely to go up. Why because that's

1421
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: where we've talked about it. That's where the value is

1422
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: going to be if you want to match the value

1423
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: in the first round. Stephen talks about third, fourth, fifth round.

1424
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: That's where it's deep. So I think they feel like

1425
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: we can get a third round graded player in the third.

1426
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: We can get a fourth round in the fourth I

1427
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: don't think they feel like they can get a first

1428
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: in a second round graded player in those rounds if

1429
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 1: they just stay put. So if you want to go

1430
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 1: up and sure you get a first round graded player,

1431
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: go make the deal, get rid of your second and

1432
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: then start picking actual value starting in the third round.

1433
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: Can you think to trade up for teams in the

1434
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: back of the the draft of the wide receivers that

1435
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: if one of those wide receivers are on the board,

1436
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: because yeah, because I'm kind of feeling like though that

1437
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna lose a lot of these wide receivers. Yes,

1438
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: but if one of them comes sliding down and maybe

1439
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: you're not going to pick them, maybe the Cowboys are

1440
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: not going to take uh you know, I don't think

1441
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: a lobby gets to you or anything like that. But

1442
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: maybe there's somebody that that pickings or somebody like that,

1443
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: or did they just sit and and I'm not again

1444
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 1: the Cowboys I'm talking about for trade backs, it's more

1445
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: likely for somebody to come up. Right. Abel draft is

1446
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: now officially open. The Jacksonville Jaguars are now on the clock.

1447
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: All right, all right, here we go. I've never noticed

1448
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: that Goodell says jaguires. Yeah, Jack, I am a I

1449
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: am nothing if not a snotty, pretentious writer. I hate

1450
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: when people say jaguiar. You know, you know, you know

1451
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: who hates that the most is our old buddy from England,

1452
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: Dan Turner, because he worked for the company Jaguar, so

1453
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: he hates hearing us say the word jag You are

1454
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: is wrong too, yes, but yes, yeah, yeah, of course no.

1455
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: I think that when you to me, if they're gonna

1456
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: go up, that's the where you get the value. You

1457
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: gotta go up. You're gonna have to go up to

1458
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: probably twelve to fourteen to actually get the correct value. Now,

1459
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: if you want to go up a little bit to

1460
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty to ensure you get your guy, you

1461
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: may be trading up. Honestly, if you go up to

1462
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty, if you make a little jump like that,

1463
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: you may be trading up to get a second round

1464
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: graded player. Yeah, that's just the way the board may

1465
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: shake out. I agree with that. Again, the teams that

1466
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: might come from the back, keep an eye on Kansas City.

1467
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: They're really aggressive. You know, maybe that Tennessee might come.

1468
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: Tennessee is another team that Bobby was talking about it,

1469
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: you know earlier today that was looking to make a jump.

1470
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 1: If in fact that that say Burke's from Arkansas? Is there?

1471
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: Tell us who you guys know the Cowboys love. I

1472
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: don't care whether it's a twenty four, who's top on

1473
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: their board. Whatever, you can tell us and reveal about

1474
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: who they love in this draft, Dave, when we have

1475
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: the conversation about them trading up, like, oh, a guy

1476
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: slides into a realistic range and maybe you consider it.

1477
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: The name that is in my brain is Drake London. Yeah,

1478
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: every single time they adore him. If you're not, if

1479
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: you're not a draft nick, it's the tall usc wide receiver, big, big,

1480
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: contested catch guy, big go up and get it guy.

1481
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 1: I think the type of receiver that gets fans excited.

1482
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: He just you know, I hate compared plays where here

1483
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: on the outside outside and Michael Gallup and Ceedee Lamb

1484
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 1: can both go inside and out. So he's he becomes

1485
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 1: your X in my opinion. Um yeah, he's a prototype.

1486
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 1: Um no, I was gonna. I was laughing because I

1487
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: hate comparing draft prospects to all pros and on he's

1488
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: not as good as Mike Evans. But he's that type

1489
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: of receiver, that that type. I'm not saying he's Mike Evans.

1490
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be asking you ask for a lot of

1491
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: comps to Yeah, that's fine. Um, I will say that's

1492
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: that is the number one name that like, let's you know,

1493
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be gone by pick twelve or so

1494
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: if he's hanging around it like fifteen sixteen for some reason,

1495
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: that's what I got my you know what you talk

1496
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: about comps and my guys here in the Draft show

1497
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: probably heard me say this. When I was watching Drake

1498
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 1: London in those games at USC, I thought I was

1499
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: watching a bigger version of Adam Feeland and Adam Fealand

1500
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,839
Speaker 1: six two two one Drake Lynd six four two nineteen.

1501
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: But when you start to talk about catch radius over

1502
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 1: the middle, doesn't matter where you are on the field,

1503
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna catch the ball, break a tack will get

1504
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: up the field that you know, Adam Feeland to meet

1505
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: catches every single ball they throw in his directions. And

1506
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: Drake London, to me, was that kind of guy. It

1507
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 1: doesn't matter where it's thrown, he's gonna come down with

1508
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: And I kind of think the same thing with Adam

1509
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 1: Feeland when I watched him play for the Vikings. You know,

1510
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: go ahead. I was just gonna say, you're saying Adam Feeland,

1511
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 1: You're saying Mike Evans, how don't you love how that happens?

1512
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: Him across the hall are saying Jordy Nelson. They think

1513
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 1: he's Jordy Nelson two point zero, and I mean the

1514
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: coach across the hall now coach Jordy Nelson to what

1515
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: he ended up becoming. They think Drake London's that guy.

1516
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: I think Burkes is more of Mike Evans to me.

1517
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 1: When you watch the vertical player, when you have enough separation,

1518
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: like it's it's not one of those things, you're like,

1519
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: the guy's running away, but then when you watch the tape,

1520
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: he never gets he never gets tackled. You know, he's

1521
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: he runs four or five, five or whatever, but then

1522
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: he's running into the end zone not getting tackled. I

1523
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: kind of see the same thing with Mike Evans. Vertical player,

1524
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: down the field, catch the football and then finish. Let's

1525
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: talk about what's happening right now. There's six minutes left

1526
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: on the clock as Jackson mill is gonna get all

1527
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: their shine. Of course, the Jaguars, they're still figuring out

1528
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: who they're gonna pick. Okay, I hope to hell not

1529
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 1: for their sake. So who will it be? Who should

1530
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 1: it be? Bobby? It'll be Trayvon Walker, I think, and

1531
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean I at this stage, it's kind of you know,

1532
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: just with this draft class being what it is, I

1533
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: feel like, just roll the dice and if you want

1534
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: somebod who's solid, it should be Aiden Hutchinson. I think

1535
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: that's the safest guy to me. But are you guys

1536
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 1: willing to take seventy cents sixty cents on the dollar

1537
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: to move out of this I don't think that. I

1538
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: don't think that that that that general man, I don't

1539
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: think that that team wants they're bad. You're picking one

1540
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: back back. You need to get better. There's there's too

1541
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: many guys in that room that like Walker. You know,

1542
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 1: Brinson Buckner's the defensive line coach. I'm hearing he really

1543
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: loves Walker and all that. Me personally, I think Doug

1544
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 1: Peterson's right. If you take a Quan move the tackle

1545
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: at a North Carolina State, you're helping your quarterback. That's

1546
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: that's your future. That you do not want your quarterback

1547
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: to struggle like he did last year. If everybody there's

1548
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: going to keep their job, they want want to figure

1549
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: out ways to help him along. I would do that.

1550
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: Sean asked the question, who should it be? It should

1551
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 1: be Ikey Aquanu out of NCY State. That's who I

1552
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 1: would do it. That's protect Trevor Lawrence. Find a way

1553
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: to move him into his next step, because that's how

1554
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: you get better as a franchise, is him taking the

1555
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:52,759
Speaker 1: step to be an NFL caliber or an exponential caliber quarterback. However,

1556
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: who it will be, It's gonna be one of these addreshers.

1557
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Aidan Hutchetson, Cabin Thibodeau, Trayvon Walker, Bob

1558
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: sat Walker makes sense. Let me ask you this scout, guys,

1559
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 1: pick is in not announced yet, Pick is in. I'm

1560
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 1: so The debate for months now is like Hutchinson is solid,

1561
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: high floor, low ceiling. Walker has this crazy high upside,

1562
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: but maybe he'll never meet it. But everything I know

1563
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 1: about Walkers that he's also this tenacious run defender. Doesn't

1564
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: that give him a high floor as well? Like not

1565
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: saying that this is what you want, but if if

1566
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: Walker is a four to six sacks, but does all

1567
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: the dirty work really well? Like? Is that? I mean

1568
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: it would be disappointing, but also not the end of

1569
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: the war world? Right, No? That is that sexy enough

1570
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: for number one? But that's this isn't where picking number

1571
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: one is sexy. Yeah, it just isn't. And so I

1572
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: I think if I was picking between those two edges,

1573
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm gambling on the upside of Walker knowing that he

1574
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: can do other stuff for me. All right, So you

1575
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: guys think it's gonna be Walker? Yeah, Yeah, that's who

1576
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: I think. Or are you gonna say Bobby No, I

1577
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 1: was just gonna call Dave, Dave Balky stop all right,

1578
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 1: let's see what happens. So, just so you know, the

1579
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: draft order is going to go with Jacksonville number one,

1580
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 1: then the Lions at two, the Texans at three, the

1581
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 1: Jets at four, and the New York Football Giants will

1582
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: pick at five and seven, with Carolina Sandwich right in

1583
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: between at number six. Are we expecting a ton of trades?

1584
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 1: On average? It's about six trades per year in the

1585
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 1: first round. That's the average. I thought that was high.

1586
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: I thought it was high. The really high. The overunder

1587
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: was set in Vegas at three and a half tonight

1588
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: for Round one. Everybody wants out. Nobody wants to go

1589
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: up as the problem or not enough guys want to

1590
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: go up. There's there's a whole lot worth going up for.

1591
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 1: And if it is it's taken in the top ten,

1592
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 1: you don't really know how it's going to shape out.

1593
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: There's so much uncertainty. If you're gonna go up. It

1594
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: goes back to what we were talking about earlier. You

1595
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: have a player in mind. This is a buyer's market. Yeah,

1596
01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: the draft normally you can you know, average deals elsewhere

1597
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: to get out and like, well they're giving us this,

1598
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: They're going us this. Here we go. Let's go to

1599
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: the podium with Roger Goodell and the number one pick

1600
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: with the draft going down. With the first pick in

1601
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select

1602
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker, Georgia. What a rise linebacker? Huh Yeah, that's interesting.

1603
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: What a rise when you look at the different mock drafts.

1604
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: We'll come back and analyze it. We'll put the Lions

1605
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 1: on the clock. We are just getting started. Thrilled that

1606
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: you're joining us. We're here all night long on one

1607
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: oh five three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys Radio Network.

1608
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: All right, we are here on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Brian,

1609
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: was this a was this a surprising late rise for

1610
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: this guy based upon Hutchinson and Hutchinson was the locked

1611
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: in favor for the last three months funny years almost. Yeah.

1612
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 1: When we started this process in January, Thibodeau was like

1613
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 1: the first overall player. Hutchinson was getting some love. I

1614
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,719
Speaker 1: think if you watch some of the late tape, especially

1615
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 1: the playoff game, you know against Georgia and stuff, there

1616
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 1: was you know, it was kind of evident that maybe

1617
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 1: this guy is kind of who he is ability wise.

1618
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: I think with Walker it was a you know, everybody

1619
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: will say, oh well, the scouts were the scouts were

1620
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: are on him the whole time. The media scouts were late,

1621
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: but yeah, there was I mean, there is a he

1622
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 1: is a very good football player at six five at

1623
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy two pounds. I think you know,

1624
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: we had with talking with Dane Burglar a lot. Dane

1625
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: was on him very very early, and I bet you

1626
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: Dane had talked to some of those scouts about him.

1627
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: But you can gonna watch him play edge and you

1628
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: can watch him play some defensive tackle and I think

1629
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 1: there's some you know, I think there's something about him though,

1630
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 1: the bend and things like that that he's probably gonna

1631
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: have to work on a little bit. But this is

1632
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 1: a guy that kind of Dave was talking about, play

1633
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: the run, play the past per Well, yeah, he can

1634
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: do a lot of stuff for you besides get after

1635
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback. But that's that's the thing is you take

1636
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: him number one because so he can do that. So

1637
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna have to watch just to see

1638
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: how well he develops that for my month, Like, with

1639
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: all due respect to him, this makes me super interested

1640
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,799
Speaker 1: in what's about to happen in Detroit because just listening

1641
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: to just trying to pay attention to the entire league,

1642
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 1: you know, you keep an eye on all these teams,

1643
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 1: and the word coming out of Detroit is that their

1644
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: GM loves cave On Thibadeau. But Aidan Hutchinson is a

1645
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,839
Speaker 1: Michigan guy. From Campbell guy. He's from Detroit. He eats glass.

1646
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 1: He's very Dan Campbell type of player. Like I wonder

1647
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: they might just be having a wrestling match in their

1648
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 1: war room right now to see who he's got, and

1649
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: you've got a couple of those old school type of

1650
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: guys Dan Campbell, then you know Spielman there as well.

1651
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 1: I mean, kind of a couple beat a couple of

1652
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: meat heads if you really want to be honest about it,

1653
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: you know, and they're and they're gonna want a guy

1654
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: that is you know, when you talk about Timbo and

1655
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: Bobby brought up some points. You know, if all of

1656
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 1: this so, if Tibodeau was one of these guys that

1657
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 1: you find out he was trying to beg out of

1658
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 1: some stuff, didn't want to be a part. How much

1659
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: this guy really loved football, you think Dan Campbell and

1660
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: Spielman are going to be on board with that guy

1661
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: that this this Dave's right, this is a very very

1662
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: interesting pick for the Lions going forward. Well, when you

1663
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: have Treyvon Walker, he now joins Trevor Lawrence. These have

1664
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: been the last number one picks. Just think of like

1665
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 1: the hype factor and again hype a lot of times

1666
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: it's overrated. But Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Kyler, Murray Baker,

1667
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, Jared Goff, Jamis Clowney, Eric Fisher, and uh

1668
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: did I say Clowney, Hu Miles, Garrett, Jamis Clowney, Andrew Luck,

1669
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. He now joins those names which you go

1670
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: read that list, Eric Fisher, the tackle that wound up

1671
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,759
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, Like this is the least sexy draft

1672
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 1: in terms of star power since twenty thirs absolutely. With

1673
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: the second pick in the twenty two NFL Draft, the

1674
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions select Aiden Hutchinson. Here we go Desvan Michigan.

1675
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: The Beadheads won, Dant meadeads on the mead Heads one.

1676
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 1: Who does this guy remind you of? The war is

1677
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: over Lebowski? Who is the comparisons? I mean, you could

1678
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: start to talk about the guys, I think the boss

1679
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: had better bend. I think the bosses were quicker. When

1680
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: you start to talk about the Watts, I think they're

1681
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: more explosive. So I cannot think that he's below that

1682
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 1: group of guys. All Right, we're getting ready to come

1683
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 1: back with one oh five three of the fan will

1684
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 1: reset the first two picks of the draft. The Detroit

1685
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 1: Lions just selected Aiden Hutchinson, who had been locked in

1686
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: as the number one pick for the past few months

1687
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: until Trayvon Walker took over that spot. He is selected

1688
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,879
Speaker 1: by Jacksonville at one, Aidan Hutchinson at two, Sean Shreife,

1689
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: Bobby Bell. Our Cowboys insider Brian brought us David Helmont

1690
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: and Kyle Yelman's from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Could the

1691
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 1: Lions be celebrating like they got gifted the best player

1692
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 1: in the draft. Could they be feeling that way, Dave Hellman?

1693
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: And who does this guy remind you of? I mean, yeah,

1694
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: they have to be celebrated, because again, were we talked

1695
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: about it, like this is a Dan Campbell guy, like

1696
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: this fits the ethos of what he's trying to build.

1697
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 1: And on top of that, and I mean it doesn't

1698
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: matter in terms of building a football team, but from

1699
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 1: a narrative perspective, you think a guy from Michigan's national

1700
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: title team that are national playoff team, you know what

1701
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 1: I mean, who grew up in Detroit, Like you think

1702
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna help him sell jerseys and tickets. I have

1703
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 1: a feeling at Will. So yeah, I'm sure they are pumped. Now.

1704
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: When we were on the internet side of things, Brian

1705
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: kind of outlined who he reminded or who he was

1706
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: reminded of when watching Aidan Hutchinson could you go through

1707
01:23:58,280 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 1: that because I had to follow up to what you

1708
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 1: said earlier. I want to well, I was trying to

1709
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: compare it. When you look at the brothers like the

1710
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 1: Bosa brothers, I thought there was more explosiveness, more quickness.

1711
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: You look at the Watt brothers, I thought there was

1712
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 1: that quick first step and all that. I think this

1713
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 1: guy is in that category. But below those guys, I

1714
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: don't know if this guy has that first step. But

1715
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: what he has is those guys, is how relentless that

1716
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: he's able to play. You know, those are the kind

1717
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 1: you know we always about guys like the and I

1718
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: hate when you say, oh, well it's Ryan Carrigan or

1719
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: someone try, how hard guys stuff like that. But this guy, though,

1720
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't stop. And they always say this guy the motor,

1721
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: the motor, the motor. This guy doesn't. But there's games

1722
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: so you can watch him play where guys blocked him.

1723
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean you you can watch Ohio State, you can

1724
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: watch Georgia where these guys kind of blocked this guy

1725
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: a little bit. I just want to I go out

1726
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: of Jobo might have been the better rusher at times

1727
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 1: a little bit at Michigan. If you be honest with him.

1728
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,879
Speaker 1: I go out of my way to defend Ryan Carrigan

1729
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: whenever I can, because, yeah, he's no, he's a hell

1730
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 1: of a plan. I think he gets credit for how

1731
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:03,759
Speaker 1: career he had hundred career sex. Yeah, and I compared

1732
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: him to Joey Bosa just because of the way that

1733
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: he plays. They have a very similar stylistic approach in

1734
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: terms of rushing the passer and getting off the edge,

1735
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: and they they have some of the same tools. But

1736
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: I agree with you, it's a poor man's Joey Bosa

1737
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 1: kind of a step down. Still going to be an

1738
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: impact guy, don't get me wrong, and he has a

1739
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: ceiling as high as anybody in the draft class. But

1740
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 1: I think Aidan Hutchinson and a microcosm is just as

1741
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: representative of this entire draft class as anybody else is

1742
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: going to be picked tonight because he's a good player.

1743
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: He has solid upside, but in terms of the players

1744
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: that have been taken in the last couple of drafts,

1745
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 1: he's just not to that point, not to that level.

1746
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: At the moment when he's picked into the NFL, what

1747
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 1: are we looking at with the Houston Texans on the clock.

1748
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 1: This could be a. This could be a corner, don't

1749
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: you think, Bombay. There's so much buzz around Stingley. Yeah,

1750
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 1: this is going to be yeah. Yeah. You go back

1751
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: to what we said at the top of the show

1752
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 1: about like diya overthink it. If they draft Derek Stingley,

1753
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: it would be such poetic justice because for the overthinkers

1754
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: we were, we were penciling this guy into the top

1755
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 1: five two years ago and then came up with two

1756
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: dozen reasons why that didn't make sense. And so if

1757
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: if injury history for Stingleys injuries like football, questions about buying,

1758
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: questions like is he like the dog Alpha that's going

1759
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 1: to lead your tape island? Is his film better than

1760
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner? I put his twenty nineteen film up against

1761
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,759
Speaker 1: anything you throw out there. Honestly, Um, not the last

1762
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: the last two seasons, no, no, but there's there is

1763
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: good tape even you got you y'all pointed that out

1764
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: to me, Like I was down on Stingley because I'm

1765
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 1: a jaded LSU fan who had to watch him struggle

1766
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 1: for two years. But he played well before he got hurt,

1767
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 1: and he did anyone he did, he absolutely did, And

1768
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: I think, to me, that the more you really dug

1769
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 1: in and and and Bobby, wasn't you that I was

1770
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: talking to about Houston about someone was telling me about

1771
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: their their pro their pro personnel director or their assistant

1772
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 1: pro personnel director lives in Louisiana. Was not me? Okay,

1773
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: I taught this is what this is what happens in

1774
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: my life. Start blending phone calls exactly. Okay, Houston, Houston

1775
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 1: has Houston has their pro their assistant pro personal director

1776
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: lives in Louisiana. So he knows really what's going on. Now.

1777
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 1: All you have to do is talk to the previous staff.

1778
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:18,759
Speaker 1: You talk to football operations. You talk to these people.

1779
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: They will tell you about this guy. They will tell

1780
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 1: you about what he needs. They will tell you he's

1781
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: not a bad kid. They will tell you that he

1782
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: loves football. He's had some he's had injuries. Here we

1783
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: go with Roger Goodell. We're kind of moving along nice

1784
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 1: and brisk here. Good for them, they're not overthinking in

1785
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 1: these conversation. Texans on the clock. With the third pick

1786
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Houston Texans

1787
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: like Derek Stingley, junior defensive back Lsu Okay, guys three

1788
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 1: for three. Wow, Yeah, I'm doing really good right now.

1789
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: Don't smirk at me, David. It's not like you have

1790
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 1: Twitter opener or anything. I didn't see it until I

1791
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 1: say I didn't see it. I had fail here has

1792
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: done a much better job, right. I can't remember who

1793
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 1: leaks the picks, but I blocked that person a long

1794
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 1: time ago. I hated that individual, but I hate when

1795
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 1: they ruined the drama. And I got a message here

1796
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 1: that they told Jacksonville be close to the vest and

1797
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: try to go ahead and take up your time. So

1798
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 1: we want the intrigue. That's what we like, all right, Bobby,

1799
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: who goes four or five? Six? Do I need to

1800
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 1: do this? Yeah? Yes, yes, Sauce Sauce. Sauce's next. I'll say,

1801
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner here four to the Jets, good pick, and

1802
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: then I'll say five is gonna be ikey okay, Wow,

1803
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 1: this would be really impressed, Sauce. Ikey okay, ikey to

1804
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 1: the giants of I don't think I disagree though, and

1805
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I'm not looking at anything. Six six.

1806
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: Everybody kept saying three is where it gets interesting. I

1807
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: think you were starting to hear enough buzz about Stingley

1808
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: to Houston that I started pinpointing. Six is where it

1809
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: gets interesting for me. I don't know what Caroline is

1810
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: gonna do. I don't know if they're gonna trade out.

1811
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna reach for a quarterback.

1812
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll say, well, we gotta go Bpa.

1813
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the interesting. Pick six is where confused.

1814
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's focus on four then with the

1815
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: Jets on the clock. Uh, Look, no team has been

1816
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 1: more desperate to get a receiver this offseason. We know

1817
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: that they made a humongous offered at Tyree Hill. There

1818
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: are Deebo Samuel rumors that are out there. They clearly

1819
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: feel a little bit burned and have some regret that

1820
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 1: they didn't give Sam Darnel guys to go to throw too,

1821
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: and they don't want to make the same mistake with Wilson.

1822
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: So we're still looking at defense versus offense. I still

1823
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: think they need offensive tackle help. There's not I don't

1824
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: think there's a receiver worth taking that. It's it's easier

1825
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 1: to do that when you have two top ten picks, though,

1826
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 1: when you're picking at ten and you can go all right,

1827
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,799
Speaker 1: maybe one receiver's off by the time we pick at ten. Yeah,

1828
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: but you still think Sauce over an offensive line in here?

1829
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 1: How much do they believe in Beckton? That's what it

1830
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 1: comes out. YEA. I might call the Jets immediately go, hey,

1831
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,680
Speaker 1: what do you want for Beckton? Yeah? Absolutely, that'd be fun.

1832
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: That's a real conversation. It's it's a very similar idea

1833
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville is like, well, you invested this huge pick

1834
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 1: and this kid didn't have a wonderful rookie season, Like,

1835
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 1: don't you want to help him as much as you can?

1836
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: But I mean, Robert Sale is a defensive guy, Like,

1837
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 1: I completely understand if if Gardner's the pick. I'll tell

1838
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 1: you what the thing is. Let's be you're you're talking

1839
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 1: about the Jets right now, there's panic going on in

1840
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 1: the in the Giants war room because they might be

1841
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: losing their Their plan was they were going to get

1842
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 1: one of these corners. So all of a sudden, you're

1843
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 1: taking you're talking about taking Sauce Gardner off the board

1844
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 1: for them. Now it turns into okay, does this where

1845
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 1: we see Tibodeau, This where we see one of those

1846
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: offensive tackles. Maybe Cowboys two point zero from last year. Yeah, one,

1847
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 1: and Sir Tam went off. I don't know what happens

1848
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 1: at six. When I was running through the mock earlier

1849
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 1: today before I drove over here, I was looking at

1850
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 1: it and with me assuming Stingley and Sauce went back

1851
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: to back, I had Ikey here and then I had

1852
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 1: Thibodeau at seven. But like I mean, I texted you guys.

1853
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 1: Right when I walked in here, I was getting buzz

1854
01:30:55,960 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 1: from people that they're going nine. Look more around nine. Tibodau,

1855
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 1: that's for that's a Seattle. So I wonder if Tibodau.

1856
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't know who the Giants will go get at

1857
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 1: that point, because I would think Brian'll have the corner.

1858
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 1: Brian always says this about Cincinnati, like, oh, they'll take

1859
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 1: it like Seattle's in that category. Seattle, they'll stop the

1860
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: slide on a guy like yeah, my guy, John Snyder's

1861
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 1: had some bad drafts, you know, Johnson. There's some pressure

1862
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 1: going on up there now. They're starting to question what

1863
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: John's players are. But if you know, you look at

1864
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 1: the metrics, they say they've had great drafts. But it

1865
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 1: was great drafts when they were when they picked Russell

1866
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 1: Wilson and that whole crew that they've all got rid of.

1867
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 1: Now get lucky on detail met cat Tyler Lockett pops

1868
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 1: up too. So that's why I you know, I kind

1869
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 1: of feel like though that the Jets here, like I

1870
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 1: said it should, the picks should be an offensive lineman here.

1871
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 1: I mean again, you're investing in your you know, the

1872
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,719
Speaker 1: general manager up there. I mean for going four years now.

1873
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a point in time whe they say enough,

1874
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, we've got to figure out what's

1875
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: going on here. Yeah, and we chiefs can't letting you

1876
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 1: keep picking players and none of this, no no success.

1877
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 1: So I think there's a little pressure up there to

1878
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,640
Speaker 1: you pick this quarterback last year, find a way to

1879
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 1: protect him, get him weapons, whatever you have to do,

1880
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 1: make that happen. He's Brian brought us. We've got David Hellman,

1881
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 1: Kyle Gellman's Bobby belt. I'm Sean treef here on one

1882
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: oh five three of the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot

1883
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 1: Com Trayvon Walker to Jacksonville at one we go with

1884
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: another defensive ent, Aiden Hutchinson to the Lions at two

1885
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 1: Stingley Junior to the Texans the LSU corner at three,

1886
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 1: Jets are on the clock, followed by two of the

1887
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,879
Speaker 1: next three picks coming from New York with the Giants

1888
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,440
Speaker 1: at five and seven, and will Carolina take a quarterback

1889
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 1: at number six? So here we go. This feels like

1890
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: it's moving moving kind of fast right now. Right now,

1891
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for brought Us has put it in my head.

1892
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Sauce Gardner to go to the Jets.

1893
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 1: I just want, Yeah, if you're a Cowboy fan and

1894
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 1: you want to see the division, they're still gonna get

1895
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 1: two really good players. In my books, see that's you.

1896
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: You can't you might get my number one one player.

1897
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: You can't completely screw the Giants because they'll either get

1898
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 1: a corner or a tackle and they'll be thrilled about that.

1899
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: I'd rather deal with having to go around Ikey Aquanu

1900
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 1: than having to throw against a man. Does everyone think

1901
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 1: that Ikey is the best offensive lineman? And I have

1902
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 1: cross I have crosses cross from Mississippi State. Okay, um,

1903
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have strong opinions about these things.

1904
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 1: I like, I like Aquan No, I just these guys

1905
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 1: make boards. I just learn about the players and let

1906
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 1: the teams decide. But I would take a Quantu over

1907
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 1: Neil Okay, Yeahquan is my number one two Bobby, I

1908
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 1: would take a QUANTU and crossover Neil Aquan and crossover Neil. See,

1909
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 1: there's things when you got to learn about these Alabama players.

1910
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 1: A lot of wear and tear on their bodies. They play.

1911
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 1: They play in a lot of these games, a lot

1912
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 1: of physical, tough games in the SEC. They're in playoff games.

1913
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 1: It's almost like Lebron James in a second career with

1914
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: playoff games that you put three or four years on

1915
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:01,639
Speaker 1: his career from playing extra games. And they could say

1916
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 1: a lot about these linebackers and stuff like that that

1917
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 1: you know with Alabama, these defensive lineman's a secondary and stuff,

1918
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 1: hard practices with Nick Sabe and a lot of wear

1919
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 1: and tear on those guys. And that's what they're talking

1920
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 1: about with Neil mammoth guy, maybe some wear and tear

1921
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 1: on that body. How did these two corners stack up

1922
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 1: against you know, last year was a disappointing season for

1923
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 1: the shirt thing with Akuda in Detroit. Yeah, how how

1924
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 1: do those guys all line up. That's I'm sorry, but no,

1925
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 1: that's a good question. I think I would have see

1926
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:35,720
Speaker 1: Stanley so much upside, whereas Sauce, I think is something

1927
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: you can feel really good about. Um, I'd have Sauce

1928
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 1: and Stanley maybe a little behind Horn for me. Here's

1929
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 1: the pick from the New York Jets. We're the worth

1930
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty twenty two NFL draft. The New

1931
01:34:52,320 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 1: York Jets select Sauce. Skirt down for you, it is open.

1932
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 1: It's back up now because I gave you the next

1933
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 1: like two or three picks that have thought. Bobby Swag

1934
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 1: coming up in. He's coming in hot his first draft.

1935
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 1: He's four four. I gotta say, I'm so glad we

1936
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 1: can Dame Burglar just showed up. I'm so glad we

1937
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 1: can talk about him right now, because don't say that

1938
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:23,759
Speaker 1: because we got two you're out of here. Sauce. Sauce

1939
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,760
Speaker 1: was training in Frisco, UH since January, and he is

1940
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 1: just that the nickname fits. They talked about over at

1941
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 1: Exos UH, Brent Callaway and some of the people that

1942
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 1: he just he upped the level of competition for everybody training.

1943
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: Is he is he running up here? Is he late Uh,

1944
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 1: there's a running up here, so there he is. Uh,

1945
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardener, I put the room was far away from room.

1946
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 1: They have been all the way back, and it's a

1947
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 1: long water. Was it Philadelphia when they used to make

1948
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: these guys they had to walk down a staircase to

1949
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 1: get to the state. I thought that was the stupidest thing.

1950
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: Let's get to the New York Giant ants on the clock.

1951
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 1: Let's get it rolling with the NFC east on one

1952
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,759
Speaker 1: oh five through the fan of Dallas Cowboys Radio Network,

1953
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,639
Speaker 1: all right, and our Dallas Cowboys dot Com crew sticking

1954
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: with us off the entire night, no commercial breaks. As

1955
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner goes to the New York Jets at number four.

1956
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 1: So we went back to back d ns, back to

1957
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: back corners. Hey, positional value. People absolutely loving that. Get

1958
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 1: to the pass rusher. When was the cornerback market going

1959
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 1: to catch up with the wide receiver market in this offseason?

1960
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 1: And now corners Dave Hellman are being targeted? Yeah, unintended point.

1961
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 1: You probably don't want to target these guys too much. Although,

1962
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 1: to go back to what we were saying, though, like

1963
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 1: I also think Gardner, I think he's in more of

1964
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,680
Speaker 1: a position of success, like the Jets have more to

1965
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 1: work with on their defense right now than the Texans right, Um? Probably, yeah,

1966
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 1: I mean they got um like, who's the Who's who's

1967
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 1: the guy that how fast? You can name them? No

1968
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 1: good point? Who's who's the guy that got hurt? Last year?

1969
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 1: They have a pass rusher that got hurt, like he

1970
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 1: didn't get to play. Gosh, what is his name? Wonderful radio?

1971
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 1: Just fine? Well, this is why it's on the dot

1972
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 1: com side, David that guy's name. Um, I'm blanking on

1973
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 1: it too. I just know how bad the Texans are.

1974
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 1: That's why the Jets are good. I'm saying the Texans

1975
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 1: are terrible. Every guy could name more than five members

1976
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 1: one of one of my one of my favorites, not

1977
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 1: maybe not even one of the day. One of my

1978
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 1: favorite interactions with Sauce, Carl Lawson. They got Carl Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1979
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 1: they have c J. Mosley h yes, so so teams.

1980
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 1: NFL teams send out to just about everybody in college.

1981
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 1: They'll send out these questionnaires like just like general like

1982
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 1: you know, almost like many wonder licks like teams send

1983
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:56,759
Speaker 1: him out to everybody. When when I first met Sauce,

1984
01:37:56,840 --> 01:38:00,040
Speaker 1: and he found out, like I cover around here, and

1985
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 1: he was like, can you do me a favor? I

1986
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 1: was like sure, and he's like, next time you're you're

1987
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 1: around the people, the cowboys, can you just let him

1988
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 1: know I didn't like the questions. He's like, he's like,

1989
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 1: I had to give one answer. He's like a lot

1990
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 1: of these, Like I'd get a question for the answers

1991
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 1: would fit me. He's like, just tell them that if

1992
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 1: they didn't like any of my answers, it's because I

1993
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 1: didn't know what to pick. That yowl that's in two

1994
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 1: seconds of meeting him. He's like, wait, so you're rather

1995
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 1: like him. That's his personality. But I mean he's great,

1996
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 1: he's he's that would drop Thibadeau down to fifteen though,

1997
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 1: that that type of swag, that type of yeah, and

1998
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 1: and and to be clear, it wasn't an issue with

1999
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 1: the question himselves. He didn't like the unlimited I can't

2000
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 1: it's I want to combine two answers. That's my answer.

2001
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 1: Look at that necklace. He's got a couple of them off. Yeah,

2002
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:44,599
Speaker 1: he's got a sauce bottle. I think, yeah, maybe he's

2003
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 1: got a little bit Tabasco sponsorship. Here. So there you

2004
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 1: go with the highest drafted corner list up there with

2005
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 1: Derek Stanley, Jeff Acuta, Sean Springs, Bruce Pickens nineteen ninety one,

2006
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:01,680
Speaker 1: and a mad Gardener. So there we go with all

2007
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 1: those guys going as the third overall pick, and then

2008
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 1: Sauce going with the fourth. So the New York Giants

2009
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 1: are now on the clock at five and seven, first

2010
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 1: of four hundred first round picks in the NFC. I

2011
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised. Again, and talking to their guys last night,

2012
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:22,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. I think they like Charles Cross

2013
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 1: Mississippi State a lot. I think they do wow, And

2014
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 1: I could be. I could be really just they were

2015
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 1: they were hunting these tackles. They were talking about these

2016
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 1: tackles a quantum. I've got Cross higher on my board.

2017
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 1: They might not, but I just because they were asking me,

2018
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 1: and I was doing stuff with their website before and

2019
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 1: they're asking me about Cross a lot of that stuff,

2020
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, it's my one of my favorite players,

2021
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, my favorite players in the in the draft

2022
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 1: and stuff, So this could be the tackle. And then

2023
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 1: they turn around and they and this is where you

2024
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 1: could you could very well get your thibadeau to go

2025
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 1: with that pick at seven. Guess is a court Johnson, Florida.

2026
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 1: And if they don't trade out of I think a

2027
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 1: quantu goes here. And if Carolina doesn't trade out, I

2028
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 1: think they go cross. I just what if what if

2029
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 1: they flip flopped it? Though? Because you're looking at five

2030
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 1: and seven here and all three tackles are on the board.

2031
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 1: What if they went with an edge rusher first and

2032
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 1: then you wait for one of those guys to fall.

2033
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 1: You could actually do that. Maybe you're only two picks away.

2034
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 1: But but this is this is the thing that I

2035
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 1: think people forget about a lot is like that makes

2036
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 1: perfect sense outside, don't worry about it. Well, inside those

2037
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 1: war rooms, people are like, no, cross as a beast

2038
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 1: and that guy sucks. We're not They're not the same,

2039
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 1: right yea, Like they might have vastly different opinions point

2040
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 1: or maybe they are clustered on the board. We just

2041
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 1: we don't know that. But a lot of times, like

2042
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 1: you'll have these conversations where it's like, well you had

2043
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 1: you had four guys and they're like, no, we had

2044
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 1: one guy, Like we don't think that highly of the

2045
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,799
Speaker 1: other three. All Right, Goodell's walking up to the podium

2046
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 1: with the New York Giants selection. For the New York

2047
01:40:55,520 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 1: Giants pick, I'm joined by Sam Prince along Giants fan

2048
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 1: and make a wish. Kid. All Right, we're back with

2049
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 1: the New York Giants selection. On the clock. Sam is

2050
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 1: postcard transplant and feeling stronger than ever. As you can

2051
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 1: see tonight, his wish to announce the Giants first pick

2052
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 1: comes true. We hope this wish will be a turning

2053
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:40,560
Speaker 1: point for Sam as he looks forward to being a

2054
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 1: sports broadcaster in the future. He brought us to take

2055
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 1: my spot. Okay, Sam's it's time to get your wish true. Baby,

2056
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 1: Thank you, mister Goodell. With a fifth pick in the

2057
01:41:56,800 --> 01:42:00,719
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the New York Ball Giants,

2058
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 1: Black Cavon Tibodeau. There I go in this room. Cavon

2059
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 1: Thibodeau was the top player on three boards. Brian brought us,

2060
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 1: Dave Hellman and Kyle Yellman had to play him twice

2061
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,600
Speaker 1: a year now, and you were saying, maybe they're not

2062
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 1: going to freak out with Sauce Gardner going to the

2063
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 1: New York Jets. Why do you love Thibodau so much. Yeah,

2064
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I just feel like though, when

2065
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 1: you watch this guy play, he puts so much pressure

2066
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:32,720
Speaker 1: on those blockers, those tackles and stuff. You know. I

2067
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 1: mean to me, when you know he gets that corner,

2068
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 1: he's going to find a way to dip it and

2069
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 1: he's going to finish at the quarterback. He's an explosive player.

2070
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 1: He I think when you watch him run, I mean,

2071
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 1: he could cover a lot of ground. He's not one

2072
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 1: of those guys you see him get like pushed past

2073
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback and all none. I mean, he's not going

2074
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 1: to be on the ground at all too. I mean,

2075
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 1: he is going to play on his feet. He's got

2076
01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 1: the redirection skills. There's some snap, there's some violence when

2077
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:03,720
Speaker 1: he hits his opponent. You see the heavy hands and

2078
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 1: you just see the blocker kind of stopping his tracks

2079
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,719
Speaker 1: right there. But and he gets a lot of double

2080
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 1: teams in the pack twelve, and he's able to handle

2081
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 1: that at six four two fifty four. I love the

2082
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 1: way this guy rushes the passer. He's got the pass

2083
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 1: rush ability, he's got the size, the explosiveness to get

2084
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 1: off at the line of scrimmage. And we mentioned earlier

2085
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 1: with number one overall pick Trayvon Walker. In the way

2086
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 1: that he run or he defends the run, he's able

2087
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 1: to go sideline the sideline with a latter rollability. Thibadeau

2088
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 1: is a hunter on the run. And yes he's got

2089
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,719
Speaker 1: the tackle for lost numbers, he's got the sack numbers.

2090
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 1: But he's not necessarily just a one trick pony. He's

2091
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 1: gonna do a lot of things for that Giant's defense

2092
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 1: to take them to another level to where they haven't

2093
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 1: been in a long time. And Kyle, your scenarios in

2094
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 1: play now too, like they I mean, they are gonna

2095
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 1: have pick again probably and one more pick and an

2096
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 1: offensive tackle will be there if they like a guy. Yep,

2097
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 1: all right, they're gonna have two offensive tackles there since

2098
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 1: they took the rush at the very at the very least. Yeah,

2099
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 1: this is probably the most or second most intriguing pick

2100
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 1: in the top ten because this is where people think

2101
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:13,479
Speaker 1: the quarterback could go. And if a quarterback doesn't go here,

2102
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 1: then we may fall all the way to twenty. The

2103
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:18,640
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers are on the clock. Are you sweating a

2104
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:20,800
Speaker 1: little bit right now? I'm not he's not the one

2105
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 1: that You're not the one that's got the shot color.

2106
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 1: Those are Those are my pinisters and my co host

2107
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 1: on one oh five, three of the fans, j RJ

2108
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 1: is going through it right now. RJ's like, I need this,

2109
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:34,760
Speaker 1: I need this is to take Kenny pick. This is

2110
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 1: make or break for him. RJ was being a little

2111
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:38,040
Speaker 1: weird though, when I was in Studio three. I'll remember

2112
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 1: because like I enjoy a little pain. It's like, okay,

2113
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 1: shot cut is a Wednesday night for him. But uh,

2114
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 1: could they take an offensive tackle here? I would think

2115
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 1: if they stand in man, if they stand in offensive tackle,

2116
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 1: I would think, if you want to go a quarterback,

2117
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 1: just trade back of these spots. Let don't want to

2118
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 1: come up to get the tackle. Pick up some extra

2119
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 1: capital you need. Pick the next pick after this is

2120
01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:59,679
Speaker 1: one thirty. I'm gonna say they don't pick again until

2121
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:02,680
Speaker 1: SA Day, and they need they need players. There's no

2122
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 1: way they should be making this pick with If Carolina

2123
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 1: would pick a quarterback at six, why aren't we talking

2124
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 1: more about the New York Giants taking a quarterback at five?

2125
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 1: They declined Daniel Jones fifth year option. Today, someone answered

2126
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 1: that because honestly, if you if you really want me

2127
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 1: to answer that, I think it's because Carolina is a

2128
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 1: freaking mess man. Yeah, Like there, Carolina's owner is like

2129
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 1: what people accuse Jerry Jones of being just in the

2130
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 1: sense of like being overly involved and not knowing what

2131
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 1: he wants. I mean, they traded for Darnold, they got

2132
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 1: sick of that real quick. They chased after Deshaun Watson

2133
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 1: for a year, didn't get him, Like they don't know

2134
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 1: what they're doing, or at least they sure as hell

2135
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 1: don't seem like that. I think there's a disconnect between

2136
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 1: the general manager and the head coach, and I think

2137
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:52,439
Speaker 1: the general manager he's like, I'm I'm ready to move

2138
01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 1: on from this guy, and he didn't hire the guy Nope,

2139
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:56,760
Speaker 1: but he's going to let him do what he wants

2140
01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 1: to do. So I'm seeing some of that Thibodeaus. Now

2141
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:02,680
Speaker 1: you guys are talking about if you don't when you're

2142
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 1: asking the question of like why aren't the Giants talking

2143
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 1: about it, I think the difference is the Giants have picks.

2144
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 1: Like the Giants can get somebody in the second round.

2145
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 1: They can get it like Panthers right now, It's like,

2146
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 1: we get a quarterback, now we wait till the fourth round.

2147
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:14,599
Speaker 1: I also think the Giants just put a new structure

2148
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 1: in place, right, Like they got a new GM and

2149
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 1: a new coach. Nobody is getting fired if they suck

2150
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 1: or if Daniel Jones is bad, they can worry about

2151
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:24,759
Speaker 1: quarterback next year. Everybody's out on there. But if Carolina

2152
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 1: doesn't do something which leads to stupid decision. Who thinks

2153
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 1: the Panthers are going to draft a quarterback here? I

2154
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 1: think they trade out. I think they either trade out

2155
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 1: or draft a tackle. Honestly, I think they're going to

2156
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 1: pick a tackle. What self? Now, if they pick a quarterback,

2157
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 1: who is it? Kenney Pickett's pick it? So he's the

2158
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 1: closest they made the pick. He's the closest thing to

2159
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 1: a Day one Wow. So they didn't trade out, they

2160
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,559
Speaker 1: did pick. Does Matt Rule? How much influence is Matt

2161
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 1: Rule have here? When everyone thinks he's got one foot

2162
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 1: out the door? Yee is he's saying, don't draft me?

2163
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want a rookie starter, kind of

2164
01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:01,759
Speaker 1: like Nage in Chicago, Like, hey, Dustin Fields, it's exciting,

2165
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:03,760
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna get run out of here when he

2166
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:06,639
Speaker 1: struggles his rookie year. Yeah, the whispers are that Scott Federer,

2167
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: the general manager there, is basically saying, hey, fine, take

2168
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:14,440
Speaker 1: who you want, and if it doesn't work, then ownership

2169
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:16,360
Speaker 1: is going to do. You know, they're gonna move on

2170
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:18,800
Speaker 1: and then Scott can go hire the guy that he

2171
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 1: wants to hire, you know, and then you know, because

2172
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 1: that that guy has a lot of power in Carolina.

2173
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:26,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about personnel power and all that,

2174
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:29,599
Speaker 1: So you know, maybe it's one of those things where

2175
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, fine, you want to get a quarterback and

2176
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't play in the first year and you don't develop,

2177
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna get fired. So I me, personally,

2178
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 1: I would find a way to take it. If you

2179
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: don't have a the surest thing on this board right

2180
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 1: now is an offensive tackle, whether it's and you don't

2181
01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 1: want if you're not picking for like one hundred more picks,

2182
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 1: you know, figure out who the safest player on this

2183
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 1: board is and work from there. Not only that, what's

2184
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: what's can he pick? It gonna even do without some help?

2185
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 1: I mean maybe you know, maybe Sam Arnold held there.

2186
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:03,639
Speaker 1: Why d J. Moore receivers I was thinking more along

2187
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 1: the offensive. Their offensive line's not very good. I think

2188
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 1: I'd rather try to get better results from Sam Darnold

2189
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,720
Speaker 1: with a better line than think Kenney Pickett's gonna be

2190
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 1: an improvement. Child Treeve, Kyle Yemen's Bobby, Bob Bryan brought

2191
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 1: us and Dave Hellman. The Carolina Panthers are on the clock.

2192
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:22,639
Speaker 1: Is there anyone that loves Picket enough that you heard

2193
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 1: about to move up and have Carolina moved back? Does

2194
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:28,880
Speaker 1: anyone think that Picket or Willis are worthy of the

2195
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 1: number six pick? I think I think it goes back

2196
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 1: to Bobby. I'm right there with you, is the fact

2197
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 1: that these teams don't know how things are going to

2198
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 1: pan out in front of them, and they would rather

2199
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 1: with these quarterbacks sitting there just stay put. I mean,

2200
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:43,200
Speaker 1: you look at the quarterbacks in the back half of

2201
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:45,200
Speaker 1: the first round, or the teams in the back half

2202
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 1: of the first round that neat quarterbacks. The Steelers are

2203
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 1: in that conversation, the Saints are in that conversation. They

2204
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 1: have the ability to go up if they really want to,

2205
01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 1: but they don't need to go get Malik Willis or

2206
01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 1: go get a Kinny Pickett. They can sit tight and

2207
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 1: let things all of them because outside of the Panthers,

2208
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 1: there's not going to be a quarterback selected in the

2209
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 1: top fifteen, or at least we don't anticipate it to be.

2210
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 1: I think I think the whole thing, and Bobby, you

2211
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 1: talk to more people around the league than I do,

2212
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 1: Like I'm way more Cowboys focused. But the whole trading

2213
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 1: up for a quarterback thing seems like manufactured to me.

2214
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 1: Like I don't think mac Jones twenty twenty one. I

2215
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 1: don't you kind of feel like teams you're feeling like

2216
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:26,640
Speaker 1: they're getting burned by doing that. Now, I hope not,

2217
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 1: because the two that come to mind for me or Mahomes,

2218
01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 1: And I mean Mahomes was a trade up which worked

2219
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 1: out sure amazing. I mean, if you're talking about going

2220
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 1: at the very top, yeah, no, he wasn't. The last

2221
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 1: coming way up would have been when Rams went up

2222
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 1: for golf and well the Packers, Packers went up for

2223
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 1: their guy. Well, I mean not the San Francisco went Yeah. No,

2224
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 1: I don't think teams think they're getting burned. I think

2225
01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 1: you just you just gotta have a grade that makes

2226
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 1: it worth it. And I don't think I don't think

2227
01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 1: a team in the league has a first round grade

2228
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:01,920
Speaker 1: on a single one of these quarterbacks. I would agree

2229
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 1: with that. So that's that's what it comes down to.

2230
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 1: That are just not they're not good enough to be

2231
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 1: worth that. So my co host on the fan has

2232
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:13,679
Speaker 1: he won't let this go. Brought us cover your ears

2233
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:18,519
Speaker 1: in terms of talking about evaluating right fifty fifty first round.

2234
01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:21,240
Speaker 1: So if it's fifty fifty, he says that quarterbacks are

2235
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 1: so important. I'll get back to it. Here here comes

2236
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:26,400
Speaker 1: the selection with Roger Goodell at the podium for Carolina.

2237
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 1: With the sixth pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft,

2238
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:40,040
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers select kim Ya North Carolina State. Job fellas,

2239
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 1: it's like good for them, Like you've kind of been

2240
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,799
Speaker 1: doing homework on this stuff born and Ray Charlotte, North Carolina.

2241
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 1: So I didn't even I mean, that makes sense. He's

2242
01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:49,720
Speaker 1: NC States. Stay see this to me, this is the

2243
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 1: sensible pick. You know, you're you're trying to stabilize your franchise.

2244
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:57,720
Speaker 1: You know, go out offensive linemen tend in the first

2245
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:00,120
Speaker 1: round tend to work out pretty well for you. You

2246
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of picks to deal with. You know,

2247
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 1: give yourself a little momentum. You know, if you have

2248
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:06,920
Speaker 1: to go back and rally, maybe you want to jump

2249
01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:08,559
Speaker 1: back in this draft. Maybe you want to give next

2250
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 1: year's picks or something like that to jump back in.

2251
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 1: But you have to you have to give this thing

2252
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 1: some stability. And you know, quarterback if he goes in

2253
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 1: there and flops around, everybody's gonna get fired. Yeah, you know,

2254
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 1: this guy is one of those things. I think you

2255
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 1: could agree on that he is one of the best.

2256
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 1: He's one of the best five players in this draft. Yep.

2257
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,679
Speaker 1: I think New York and Carolina got a phoebe feeling

2258
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:32,200
Speaker 1: like they made out like bandits right now. In my opinion,

2259
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 1: especially in New York, knowing that they're about they'll probably

2260
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:37,120
Speaker 1: take their offensive tackle here. If I had to get

2261
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 1: going back to what Brian said earlier, they felt good

2262
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 1: about Charles Cross right there. They didn't get him off

2263
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 1: the board, and even if they did, they would have

2264
01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 1: had it. He could want it right there as well.

2265
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 1: Now you got to worry about the Giants taking Cross here.

2266
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit more about a Quanu because

2267
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:54,000
Speaker 1: you loved him, Kyle, I do. I love Aquanu and

2268
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 1: you talk about the biggest bully. I said that early

2269
01:51:56,680 --> 01:52:00,080
Speaker 1: on biggest bully in college football this past year, and

2270
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 1: brought Us laid it out perfectly a minute ago. He

2271
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:05,840
Speaker 1: earned that spot on reputation as a pure finisher. He's

2272
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:08,040
Speaker 1: on the edge. He improved throughout his career and he's

2273
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 1: got such a powerful lower half. He's got those clamps

2274
01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 1: for hands, he's got long arms, he's almost impossible to

2275
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 1: get away from. And you also look at guys like

2276
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 1: brought Us was talking about with these tackles now falling

2277
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 1: to five and then forward, it is a safe pick

2278
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 1: in the top ten to go and get a guy

2279
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:29,439
Speaker 1: like Eca mcquanu, and man, he is built for the future.

2280
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:31,800
Speaker 1: He's going to be a guy I think that Carolina

2281
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 1: relies on for a long time. Let me finish up,

2282
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:37,679
Speaker 1: think about Christian McCaffrey too. They still have Christian McCaffrey

2283
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:40,800
Speaker 1: to be a guy that they can rely on as well.

2284
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 1: Equanu helps you in that regard. Let me finish up

2285
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 1: my co host radio point on the Cowboys flagship because

2286
01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting thought. By the way, RJ.

2287
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:52,800
Speaker 1: Choppy get ready to get the hell shocked at you

2288
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:55,680
Speaker 1: and we were all rooty for that next week, so

2289
01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:57,800
Speaker 1: right now, not looking good for RJ with the shot

2290
01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:01,080
Speaker 1: caller bet His point is, if we really, if it's

2291
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:04,879
Speaker 1: all fifty fifty, you're not going anywhere without the quarterback.

2292
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 1: So take the quarterback, right, Josh Allen. We thought Josh Hylan,

2293
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:13,760
Speaker 1: many people thought he was a reach. Trubisky Mahomes right,

2294
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 1: fifty fifty, so why not the value of the quarterback?

2295
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:21,600
Speaker 1: Dave makes more sense for Carolina to maybe hit on

2296
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 1: that because we really don't know. I totally see the logic,

2297
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 1: and you're I mean, you're right now he's not worried

2298
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 1: about job status because Brian's right, yeah, everyone gets fired.

2299
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 1: But if you're the owner, would you would you consider

2300
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 1: that if it's fifty fifty, let's keep taking them because

2301
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 1: we go nowhere with that one. I see the logic.

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01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Dane Brugler, it's one of my favorite lines.

2303
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 1: When you talk about draft prep is like draft quarterback,

2304
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 1: it's a lottery ticket, like and if you hit it yere,

2305
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:51,240
Speaker 1: then you're in the NFL's elite for like eight to

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01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 1: fifteen years. I get it. I just I don't think

2307
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 1: there's a prod like you still got to do the

2308
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 1: work and make the gray and trust it right, Like,

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01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 1: there isn't a guy in this class that even is

2310
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 1: on the level of I mean Mahomes and Alan, Like

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01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 1: the talent was evident, you know it. I mean it

2312
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 1: was there, they had the tools. Yeah, I mean with

2313
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 1: a like Kenny Pickett, We're sitting here saying like, oh,

2314
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 1: he probably needs to go to a warm weather city

2315
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,799
Speaker 1: so he can hold the ball, and like his decision

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01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 1: making isn't great. Malik Willis, like, does he understand pro

2317
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:27,639
Speaker 1: offense is well enough where he'll be able to play quickly? Ritter?

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01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:31,600
Speaker 1: I think, like, I think Ritter could probably start for

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01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 1: the right team, but is there enough around him in

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01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 1: Carolina to where he'd be good. I don't think RJ

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01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 1: is crazy for making that point. I just I think it.

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01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 1: I think it says a lot about this quarterback class

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01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 1: that I just don't think there's a grade high enough

2324
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 1: to be worth that type of risk. It's also that

2325
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 1: thought process that we had early on about overthinking things.

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01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 1: When we were first doing this homework, we were first

2327
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 1: getting to the point of looking at this quarterback class.

2328
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 1: We were looking at these guys and saying, Hey, where

2329
01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 1: we don't have any of these guys in the top round. Really,

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01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 1: they were not the same level of talent from a

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01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 1: quarterback standpoint as we've seen in the past. Yet they're

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01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 1: still being talked about his potential top ten picks at

2333
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 1: that position. I brought us set us up for what

2334
01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:13,640
Speaker 1: the Giants could be thinking here with their second pick

2335
01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:15,600
Speaker 1: in the first Yeah, this is to me, this is

2336
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 1: either going to be it's it's either gonna be one

2337
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 1: of these offensive tackles. They haven't been able to fix

2338
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 1: the offense and that's the that's been the problem. And

2339
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 1: they've thrown money. They've thrown money at their offense. Yeah,

2340
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, the flowers and all that.

2341
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 1: They've had some problems. Here we go, let's see if

2342
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 1: the Giants go up front again, this time on the

2343
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. In the twenty twenty two

2344
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the New York Giants selected Evan Neil Alabama.

2345
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:51,800
Speaker 1: Nice job, Ryan. They were looking, you know, like I said,

2346
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 1: they were looking offensive tackle, and I and I and

2347
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 1: I was visited with them about Neil. They're looking for

2348
01:55:57,400 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 1: a real right tackle. That that's that was something that

2349
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 1: was pretty you know, pretty clear to them that they

2350
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, they really really do like you know what

2351
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 1: they've been able to, you know, with with the other

2352
01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:11,920
Speaker 1: the tackle, the left tackle that they had their Andrew

2353
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 1: Thomas Thomas. Yeah, so they were looking more for a

2354
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 1: guy on the on the right side, and that's where

2355
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 1: Neil kind of fits in, I believe. So the New

2356
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 1: York Giants making some noise in the NFC East, how

2357
01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:25,600
Speaker 1: worried should we be about their two picks? And the

2358
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:28,840
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons are on the clock. This is the twenty

2359
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Draft on one oh five three the

2360
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:42,280
Speaker 1: Fan and the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. But we didn't

2361
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 1: actually go anywhere hitting on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. This

2362
01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 1: this here Atlanta coming up. This is going to be

2363
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 1: the first pressure point for the guy they like, Drake London.

2364
01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 1: This is gonna be the first spot where you could

2365
01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:55,440
Speaker 1: see n This is gonna be Lena. There's been a

2366
01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 1: lot of push for Jamison Williams here. Garrett Wilson maybe

2367
01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 1: two was another one that maybe could be. He's high

2368
01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 1: up a lot of people's draft boards. Yeah, we'll think

2369
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:06,000
Speaker 1: about the coach and where he came from. That's a

2370
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 1: Tennessee right there. Guy that the head coach there. Uh,

2371
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:12,240
Speaker 1: that is now what the Falcons was a Tennessee ran

2372
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 1: the ball, physical, big you know, they played with big receivers.

2373
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 1: You know, that's where I would kind of keep an

2374
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:20,880
Speaker 1: eye on whoever. You feel like the bigger receiver is,

2375
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 1: like they're the more physical guy. Let's let's get to

2376
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 1: that in a second. But my phone is these meatballs

2377
01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 1: do this every year. These giants fans that I went

2378
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:36,000
Speaker 1: to school with in DC. Uh, they're thrilled. Yeah, yeah,

2379
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 1: I mean, let's talk about Evan Neil ready made starter,

2380
01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 1: Bryan's I mean, right tackle Andrew Thomas hasn't lived up

2381
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 1: to the hype of being a top five pick, but

2382
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 1: he's playing a lot better in what was he a

2383
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:51,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty Yeah, he played a lot better in his

2384
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 1: second season than his first. Yes he did. Um So,

2385
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean, so you got a hell of a pair

2386
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 1: of tackles there. If you're trying to figure out how

2387
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 1: good Daniel Joe he played left tackle for Alabama. I mean, see,

2388
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:03,360
Speaker 1: he's six seventies, three hundred and thirty seven pounds and

2389
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,680
Speaker 1: he's massive, and he will surprise you how well he

2390
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:09,640
Speaker 1: moves for his size. I mean it is impressive and

2391
01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 1: the body control and balance us watching the A and

2392
01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:15,160
Speaker 1: M game. I watched A and M Old Miss, and

2393
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, he was off balance a little bit against

2394
01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:20,360
Speaker 1: the Old Miss. But I'll tell you what, I'd see

2395
01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:22,360
Speaker 1: a guy for that big being light on his feet.

2396
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 1: He's on the two point stance all the time. So

2397
01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 1: he's kind of an upright player in the way that

2398
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 1: he does. But man, he is a long armed guy

2399
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:33,040
Speaker 1: and you never see rushers get on him. He's able

2400
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 1: to extend and keep those guys and his mass is

2401
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:40,960
Speaker 1: what bullies the defenders like him. He leans on you

2402
01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 1: the whole game. He's going to be a problem for you.

2403
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:46,440
Speaker 1: He said in Indianapolis that he models his game after

2404
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith and Larry Allen. I mean that was that

2405
01:58:49,200 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 1: was the thing. He named two cowboys right off the

2406
01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:55,000
Speaker 1: bat about who he bottels his game after. And you

2407
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 1: can see that he's got some Eric Williams to him.

2408
01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:01,160
Speaker 1: His way he bullies people, Yeah, the old Cowboys. Dan

2409
01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:03,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy Jones is his uncle. Yeah, and so he's got

2410
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:07,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys connections there. I'm not I'm not loving this new

2411
01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 1: general manager so far. Yeah, I don't like it. He's

2412
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 1: made two good picks, bring my boy Dave, get him

2413
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:14,840
Speaker 1: and back. He would have extended, he would have picked

2414
01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 1: up the option on Daniel Jones today, say Quon would

2415
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:21,280
Speaker 1: have gotten extended Loftis or they're already trying to get

2416
01:59:21,320 --> 01:59:25,400
Speaker 1: Cadarius Tonus, Cadarius Tony's butt out of town. And now

2417
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 1: they're sitting here and you guys are loving what they

2418
01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 1: did at picks five and seven, not liking that. Do

2419
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:32,840
Speaker 1: you guys have any background on their new GM that

2420
01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:36,400
Speaker 1: came over from from Buffalo? Shush, how do you say?

2421
01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:40,880
Speaker 1: Shown Shane Shane Shane, Yeah, Shane Shane, I don't know

2422
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 1: the guy. I mean a lot of these guys I know,

2423
01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 1: but him I do not know. I know he's his

2424
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:48,800
Speaker 1: background though again Buffalo, you know he's he did a

2425
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:51,360
Speaker 1: really you know, Buffalo has done a nice job of

2426
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:54,160
Speaker 1: with their team. How they You know, that's a physical defense,

2427
01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:57,160
Speaker 1: it's a physical offense. It's built for the play and

2428
01:59:57,240 --> 01:59:58,880
Speaker 1: the bad weather and stuff like that. So if you

2429
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:03,080
Speaker 1: come from places like that, he's going into that environment

2430
02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:04,680
Speaker 1: where you're gonna have to play a lot of bad

2431
02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:06,800
Speaker 1: weather games and stuff like that. I'm not going to

2432
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:08,720
Speaker 1: pretend to know a ton about him. But if he's

2433
02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:12,560
Speaker 1: coming from Buffalo, Brandon Bean helped build a Super Bowl

2434
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:15,000
Speaker 1: team in Carolina and then went up the road to

2435
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo and turned them into one of the two or

2436
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:19,520
Speaker 1: three best rosters in the league. So he clearly learned

2437
02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:21,360
Speaker 1: some things from somebody who knew what he was doing.

2438
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:23,920
Speaker 1: All Right, the Atlanta Falcons are on the clock. Here

2439
02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:27,480
Speaker 1: are the next picks, Atlanta, and then you're gonna have Seattle.

2440
02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:30,120
Speaker 1: Then you're gonna have the Jets again, and then the

2441
02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:34,000
Speaker 1: Commanders picking again in the NFC East. Kyle, Yeah, And

2442
02:00:34,120 --> 02:00:36,120
Speaker 1: with these teams coming up here in the next couple

2443
02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:37,960
Speaker 1: of selections, I want to go back to what Bobby

2444
02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:40,880
Speaker 1: was saying, Drake London could go here in the next

2445
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:43,480
Speaker 1: four or five selections, because that's where the wide receiver

2446
02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:46,560
Speaker 1: run could begin. But we've talked about it through the

2447
02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:50,240
Speaker 1: entire lead up into this hour, or I guess the

2448
02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:53,360
Speaker 1: first hour. We talked about names that the Cowboys could

2449
02:00:53,360 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 1: trade up for. Charles Cross, Trevor Pinning, Drake London. All

2450
02:00:56,880 --> 02:00:58,520
Speaker 1: three of those were on the board at the moment.

2451
02:00:58,640 --> 02:01:01,240
Speaker 1: They're still there. So this is getting into that point

2452
02:01:01,280 --> 02:01:02,960
Speaker 1: where you can maybe have that conversation. Lets go to

2453
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:07,000
Speaker 1: the podium with eight bick. In the twenty twenty two

2454
02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:16,400
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Atlanta Balcon select Drake London wide receiver. Okay, guys,

2455
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:21,840
Speaker 1: throw that pen Brian, No, why the Cowboys are throwing

2456
02:01:21,920 --> 02:01:24,480
Speaker 1: that pa? Yeah, the Cowboys that this was a minefield

2457
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:27,080
Speaker 1: here because I had heard Atlanta, the Jets, and of

2458
02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:30,160
Speaker 1: the Commanders all had Drake London as their number one receiver. Wow. Wow,

2459
02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:34,840
Speaker 1: I'd rather have that dream dashed at eight than have twelve. Yeah,

2460
02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:37,440
Speaker 1: and you're like, You're like, could it be? Maybe? It's

2461
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:39,680
Speaker 1: kind of CD two point. So that's one of the

2462
02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:42,320
Speaker 1: I think the three higher trade up options that are

2463
02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:45,360
Speaker 1: now off the board. You got Cross and Penning potentially

2464
02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:48,040
Speaker 1: still there. I think Garrett Wilson's in that conversation too, though,

2465
02:01:48,080 --> 02:02:01,120
Speaker 1: So keep that in mind, all right, Bobby Bell, Cowboys insider.

2466
02:02:01,200 --> 02:02:04,400
Speaker 1: Brian brought us David Hellman and Kyle Yeomans from Cowboys

2467
02:02:04,600 --> 02:02:07,960
Speaker 1: dot Com. We are at Ford Center at the Star.

2468
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm Sean treef and Bobby. You said, the Atlanta Falcons

2469
02:02:11,280 --> 02:02:14,240
Speaker 1: with this picket number eight could be an important moment

2470
02:02:14,360 --> 02:02:17,760
Speaker 1: in this draft. They'd take Drake London from USC. Why

2471
02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:21,000
Speaker 1: were you thinking that? I had heard that the Falcons

2472
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:22,880
Speaker 1: had him as their top receiver, and I think, especially

2473
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:25,320
Speaker 1: once Thibodeau went off the board, I thought Tibodeau was

2474
02:02:25,320 --> 02:02:27,040
Speaker 1: somebody who could have been in play for them at eight.

2475
02:02:27,120 --> 02:02:28,720
Speaker 1: But with Tibodeau off the board, it felt like this

2476
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:31,600
Speaker 1: was a landmine for the Cowboys. And I think this

2477
02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:35,200
Speaker 1: is the first Cowboys. Yeah, they loved this guy. This

2478
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:37,080
Speaker 1: is the first, I think, real frustrating pick to go

2479
02:02:37,160 --> 02:02:39,520
Speaker 1: off the board for them. Was he Is he the

2480
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:43,200
Speaker 1: consensus number one receiver though in the draft class or

2481
02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys board draft class? No, I don't think

2482
02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:48,760
Speaker 1: there's a consensus, a whole lot of consensus about anything.

2483
02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:52,120
Speaker 1: A lot of teams had him number one, though, I

2484
02:02:52,200 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 1: think I think I had heard Atlanta, the Jets, and

2485
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:57,400
Speaker 1: the Commanders all had him as one little little Calvin

2486
02:02:57,520 --> 02:03:01,200
Speaker 1: Ridley replacement. Here, different type of it's a different type

2487
02:03:01,200 --> 02:03:03,080
Speaker 1: of player. But I mean, they need, they need somebody

2488
02:03:03,080 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 1: to throw. They need yeah, they need a weapon. They

2489
02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:07,160
Speaker 1: got Kyle Pitts and then a whole bunch of receivers

2490
02:03:07,240 --> 02:03:09,080
Speaker 1: you've never heard of. Oh, I just thought about that

2491
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:12,480
Speaker 1: pairing Pitts in London. That'll be fun. Was that quarterback

2492
02:03:12,920 --> 02:03:16,480
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota for the time. If Marcus, that just took

2493
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 1: the fun right out of it. For Hey, he's not awful,

2494
02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:21,400
Speaker 1: I know he's not. I mean, we'll see didn't haven't.

2495
02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:23,240
Speaker 1: Didn't live up to his draft stock for now. But

2496
02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:25,440
Speaker 1: see that's what I brought up about Arthur Smith the

2497
02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:28,600
Speaker 1: coach there. You know big. I mean he came from Tennessee,

2498
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:32,760
Speaker 1: big receivers over there. You know, physicality maybe not as

2499
02:03:32,840 --> 02:03:35,120
Speaker 1: important as how fast you're a matter of fact, nobody

2500
02:03:35,200 --> 02:03:38,800
Speaker 1: has a time on Drake London never ran a forty, No,

2501
02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:42,080
Speaker 1: never did. I mean, so you know nowadays people are

2502
02:03:42,160 --> 02:03:44,640
Speaker 1: like going, oh, well, back in the never ran line. No.

2503
02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:46,640
Speaker 1: Back in the day when I mean like you would

2504
02:03:46,760 --> 02:03:48,920
Speaker 1: you would have like my boss would have sent me

2505
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:52,160
Speaker 1: to wherever he is out in California, and they're like,

2506
02:03:52,240 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 1: you get a forty on that kid. Yeah, I mean

2507
02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:57,120
Speaker 1: there was a time where you would have not drafted.

2508
02:03:57,240 --> 02:03:59,840
Speaker 1: And but today we're in an age we take five

2509
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:02,680
Speaker 1: nine quarterbacks first overall and we don't have time on

2510
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:05,919
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I think there's a there's an interesting conversation

2511
02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:07,760
Speaker 1: to be had there. I think Drake Lendon's great. I

2512
02:04:07,800 --> 02:04:10,320
Speaker 1: would have been happy had the Cowboys found a way

2513
02:04:10,360 --> 02:04:13,000
Speaker 1: to draft him. But there was always part of me

2514
02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:17,000
Speaker 1: that wondered if he was the like it hate that phrase.

2515
02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:19,360
Speaker 1: Is he a Dak friendly receiver? I think he is,

2516
02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:20,880
Speaker 1: because it depends on how you define it. But I

2517
02:04:20,920 --> 02:04:22,720
Speaker 1: think that's a guy who, no matter whether he's got

2518
02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:24,440
Speaker 1: the separation or not, he's coming down. But what does

2519
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:27,560
Speaker 1: that mean? Okay? But the reason I say it is

2520
02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:32,320
Speaker 1: because Dak values separation. He doesn't he doesn't throw the

2521
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:34,600
Speaker 1: covered guy. He doesn't like to take risks, he doesn't

2522
02:04:34,600 --> 02:04:36,040
Speaker 1: want to put the ball in harm way, and he

2523
02:04:36,120 --> 02:04:38,520
Speaker 1: wants you to be open. AF twenty seventeen he was.

2524
02:04:38,680 --> 02:04:40,720
Speaker 1: He was the He had more of his completions and

2525
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:42,560
Speaker 1: tight window throws than anybody else in the NFL. So,

2526
02:04:42,600 --> 02:04:44,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's it's true, but I think

2527
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:46,000
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a myth just to how

2528
02:04:46,040 --> 02:04:48,760
Speaker 1: it's like, unless it's not wide open, not throwing, they

2529
02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:50,760
Speaker 1: don't think that way across the hall. He can make

2530
02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:53,440
Speaker 1: those throws. I don't want to like be taken out

2531
02:04:53,480 --> 02:04:55,920
Speaker 1: of context like I know he can. I just wonder

2532
02:04:56,600 --> 02:04:59,360
Speaker 1: if a guy that can create more separation would be better.

2533
02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:03,600
Speaker 1: That's That's why I said, Chris, Chris Ollavey. Those two

2534
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:06,800
Speaker 1: Ohio State receivers are both that way, they create separation.

2535
02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:11,000
Speaker 1: I think in this I would love that would be wonderful.

2536
02:05:11,000 --> 02:05:13,680
Speaker 1: I think they think Wilson's better. Let's reset the picks.

2537
02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:17,480
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker goes one to Jacksonville, Aiden Hutchison two to

2538
02:05:17,600 --> 02:05:21,880
Speaker 1: the Lions. Stingley, the corner from LSU, goes three to

2539
02:05:22,040 --> 02:05:24,720
Speaker 1: the Texans. Then Sauce Gardner to the New York Jets

2540
02:05:24,840 --> 02:05:28,560
Speaker 1: at four. Thibadeau, who our guys had as the best

2541
02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:31,200
Speaker 1: player in the draft, goes to the Giants at five.

2542
02:05:31,480 --> 02:05:34,680
Speaker 1: Hit Kwanyu, the tackle from NC State goes to Carolina

2543
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:39,520
Speaker 1: at six. No quarterback Evan Neil to the Giants at seven.

2544
02:05:39,800 --> 02:05:43,640
Speaker 1: The tackle from Alabama, Drake London just went off the

2545
02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:46,600
Speaker 1: board to the Atlanta Falcons at number eight. And now

2546
02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:50,280
Speaker 1: your boy brought us John Schneider, and now he's gonna

2547
02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:52,880
Speaker 1: mess this up. Who is Like, here's somebody in the

2548
02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:55,560
Speaker 1: third round we haven't even talked about. Here, I'll tell

2549
02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:57,800
Speaker 1: you what Seahawks are jealous of the Giants draft because

2550
02:05:57,800 --> 02:05:59,920
Speaker 1: those are the year they those are the two names

2551
02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:03,360
Speaker 1: most heard. They liked we're Neil and Thibadeau. I wonder

2552
02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:05,640
Speaker 1: if this is another landline for a potential trade up.

2553
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:08,800
Speaker 1: I think this is a potential for Cross. I wonder

2554
02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:11,919
Speaker 1: it need offensive. There's been some I need a quarterback,

2555
02:06:12,160 --> 02:06:14,120
Speaker 1: there's been I've not heard this, but there's a lot

2556
02:06:14,200 --> 02:06:17,800
Speaker 1: of choppy off the hook, like why we don't want

2557
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:20,240
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to go there? Don't want it. There's a lot

2558
02:06:20,360 --> 02:06:23,040
Speaker 1: of people mocking Jermaine Johnson here. I don't I haven't

2559
02:06:23,080 --> 02:06:25,360
Speaker 1: heard that specifically, but I've just seen enough people throw

2560
02:06:25,440 --> 02:06:28,200
Speaker 1: Jermain Johnson the addresser from the Snyder pick. That would

2561
02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:31,240
Speaker 1: be the John Snyder pick. Would john loves defensive ends?

2562
02:06:31,680 --> 02:06:35,080
Speaker 1: You know, he really does really really hard. If the

2563
02:06:35,200 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 1: Seahawks drafted a franchise tackle for Drew Locke after years

2564
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:41,680
Speaker 1: of not helping Russell Wilson, yeah, I gotta say. If

2565
02:06:41,720 --> 02:06:43,840
Speaker 1: you get through nine, though, and there's not a tackle

2566
02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:47,120
Speaker 1: here and the pick is in Jets and Commanders, they

2567
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:48,920
Speaker 1: might start a run on receivers. Here. You're starting to

2568
02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:51,480
Speaker 1: getting a tall range and you've got two. If Cross

2569
02:06:51,560 --> 02:06:54,560
Speaker 1: clears there, crossing Penny could start getting in trade up range.

2570
02:06:54,640 --> 02:06:57,839
Speaker 1: Charles Cross hanging around to like sixteen. The Seahawks question

2571
02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:02,240
Speaker 1: has been it's learning at me all offseason. No one's

2572
02:07:02,280 --> 02:07:05,200
Speaker 1: talking about it. What happened to Seattle last year? They

2573
02:07:05,320 --> 02:07:07,840
Speaker 1: have they have they have weapons, they have a Hall

2574
02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:11,760
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback, right, but like the offense disappeared at times.

2575
02:07:12,080 --> 02:07:15,360
Speaker 1: Are we all totally sold that Russell makes a humongous

2576
02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:19,520
Speaker 1: difference In Denver? You got Metcalfe, uh, you got Lockett,

2577
02:07:19,920 --> 02:07:23,880
Speaker 1: and Seattle finally had had a really bad year. What happened?

2578
02:07:24,280 --> 02:07:26,800
Speaker 1: I don't cover them, so I don't want to speak

2579
02:07:26,920 --> 02:07:30,680
Speaker 1: too boldly and too confidently, But I think Russell Wilson

2580
02:07:31,480 --> 02:07:33,960
Speaker 1: knew that he was playing in the best division in football,

2581
02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 1: tried to come back from a thumb injury too quickly,

2582
02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:40,120
Speaker 1: wasn't healthy, wasn't the same player, and didn't have an

2583
02:07:40,160 --> 02:07:43,000
Speaker 1: offensive line, didn't play and also all of that problems,

2584
02:07:43,480 --> 02:07:46,120
Speaker 1: all that problem was still there, and I think it

2585
02:07:46,240 --> 02:07:48,960
Speaker 1: just it hurt him. Um. I think Russell Wilson will

2586
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:50,760
Speaker 1: be just fine in Denver. You want to talk about

2587
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:54,160
Speaker 1: having everything that they all they needed was a quarterback

2588
02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:57,000
Speaker 1: brought us what is the what's the real power structure there?

2589
02:07:57,200 --> 02:07:59,680
Speaker 1: Because I know we talked about John Snyder He's had

2590
02:07:59,720 --> 02:08:01,840
Speaker 1: a heck of a reputation as a GM. But people

2591
02:08:01,920 --> 02:08:05,440
Speaker 1: say this is this is Pete Carroll's show. No, John

2592
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:07,560
Speaker 1: and Pete do work together. The one thing John was

2593
02:08:07,600 --> 02:08:10,040
Speaker 1: always would tell me was that he's like, listen, Pete

2594
02:08:10,120 --> 02:08:13,160
Speaker 1: convinced me that he can coach the player that might

2595
02:08:13,440 --> 02:08:16,640
Speaker 1: be off center. That maybe they had they had a

2596
02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:18,920
Speaker 1: run there where they were taking those defensive linemen. Then

2597
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:21,720
Speaker 1: they all were Frank Clark, Yeah, they were taking questionable

2598
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:23,880
Speaker 1: character guys and John's like, I don't want to take

2599
02:08:23,960 --> 02:08:26,600
Speaker 1: these guys, and Pete's like, no, no, no, we could

2600
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:28,680
Speaker 1: take and we could win with these guys, and they did.

2601
02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:31,560
Speaker 1: The problem is that when you look at the Seahawks,

2602
02:08:31,640 --> 02:08:34,720
Speaker 1: now you know, who the hell's Stone Forsyth, Who the

2603
02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:38,440
Speaker 1: hell's Damian Lewis, Who the hell's Austin blythe you know, Dan,

2604
02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:42,520
Speaker 1: Dave Jackson and Lewis. But you but know what I'm saying, Yes,

2605
02:08:42,600 --> 02:08:46,720
Speaker 1: I know those are the guys. I know. Yeah, that's

2606
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:49,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, That's what that would be. Jake current

2607
02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:52,360
Speaker 1: Tackle was the pick who Yeah, I mean, who who is?

2608
02:08:52,520 --> 02:08:55,520
Speaker 1: Who are these guys? John? John is always He's always

2609
02:08:55,600 --> 02:08:58,920
Speaker 1: taking guys he's like traded back and taking uh if

2610
02:08:58,960 --> 02:09:01,720
Speaker 1: fetty and people like that that You're like why, But

2611
02:09:01,840 --> 02:09:04,480
Speaker 1: it's so weird because people just you know, still do

2612
02:09:04,640 --> 02:09:06,240
Speaker 1: make fun of the Cowboys for being a little bit

2613
02:09:06,280 --> 02:09:09,640
Speaker 1: old school. Pete Carroll is like looked upon as the analyst.

2614
02:09:09,680 --> 02:09:12,120
Speaker 1: I hope I look when I'm seventy, Well he looks good,

2615
02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:14,880
Speaker 1: h and he chooses gum fast. But he's like, run

2616
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:18,440
Speaker 1: the football and defense and special teams and you think

2617
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:20,280
Speaker 1: they have an offensive line to run it. Here's Seattle

2618
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:25,520
Speaker 1: selection at nine nine pick and the twenty twenty NFL Draft,

2619
02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:34,680
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawk selection Charles Cross tackle Mississippi State. Throw it?

2620
02:09:35,600 --> 02:09:38,040
Speaker 1: Why are we throwing the pick again? First pen? That's

2621
02:09:38,120 --> 02:09:40,240
Speaker 1: that's that's like a guy you wanted that. That was

2622
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:44,520
Speaker 1: my best tackle? You all? I all I want to

2623
02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:47,280
Speaker 1: say now is for John. He must have stepped out

2624
02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:50,400
Speaker 1: of the room. You know. No, you need to text

2625
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:51,840
Speaker 1: him right now, and so I apologize for what I

2626
02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:53,440
Speaker 1: just said over the last time. Now he will talk

2627
02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:55,840
Speaker 1: to me anymore because he knows I get on him

2628
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:57,760
Speaker 1: all the time. You guys called this though, Yeah, but

2629
02:09:58,120 --> 02:10:01,000
Speaker 1: but see that's I just named I just named all

2630
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:04,680
Speaker 1: those who's who? Yeah, you know, and and there somewhere

2631
02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:07,240
Speaker 1: I get Russell Wilson sitting in his twenty five million

2632
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:09,840
Speaker 1: dollar home there in Colorado and throwing too. He's going,

2633
02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:12,840
Speaker 1: what would who they take? You know that kind of thing.

2634
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:15,640
Speaker 1: So like Kevin Hart like help me, why why wouldn't

2635
02:10:15,680 --> 02:10:17,800
Speaker 1: you do that for me? Right? And they used the

2636
02:10:17,840 --> 02:10:20,720
Speaker 1: pick that they traded for him for Yeah, boy, this

2637
02:10:20,800 --> 02:10:23,560
Speaker 1: is this is poetic. This is picks eight and nine

2638
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:26,000
Speaker 1: back to back years, just stabbing the cowboys in the heart.

2639
02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:31,320
Speaker 1: They lost horn that was yet get closer to get

2640
02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 1: stabbed because it's because I think we didn't think they

2641
02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:36,360
Speaker 1: were gonna slide down to twenty four obviously, but had

2642
02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:38,160
Speaker 1: they gotten to twelve, they I think they were picking

2643
02:10:38,240 --> 02:10:39,960
Speaker 1: up I'm with Bobby on this one. You were looking

2644
02:10:40,000 --> 02:10:43,040
Speaker 1: at twelve as a potential trade up target that vikings

2645
02:10:43,080 --> 02:10:46,560
Speaker 1: for sure sitting there. If they if these two guys

2646
02:10:46,640 --> 02:10:49,040
Speaker 1: would have been there at twelve a conversation as being

2647
02:10:49,080 --> 02:10:51,080
Speaker 1: had I still don't. It's still not the same as

2648
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:53,640
Speaker 1: the two picks before. You already two guys that you're

2649
02:10:53,640 --> 02:10:57,160
Speaker 1: already there. Now Here's here's the interesting thing we talked

2650
02:10:57,160 --> 02:10:59,080
Speaker 1: all about, like how unpredictable this is and how wild

2651
02:10:59,120 --> 02:11:00,800
Speaker 1: this is going to be. I think we felt pretty

2652
02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:02,680
Speaker 1: on with like all, Like if you would have told

2653
02:11:02,680 --> 02:11:04,840
Speaker 1: me these were the top nine players, I think we

2654
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:07,160
Speaker 1: would have kind of guessed pretty close to this. Nothing

2655
02:11:07,280 --> 02:11:10,440
Speaker 1: truly surprising has happened yet another. I mean, there was

2656
02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:13,040
Speaker 1: way too much smoke about Stingley all this week for

2657
02:11:13,240 --> 02:11:15,760
Speaker 1: me to be surprised to hear his name. Carolina Picking

2658
02:11:15,880 --> 02:11:19,160
Speaker 1: surprised me. The Jets are on the clock at ten,

2659
02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:25,080
Speaker 1: then the commanders at eleven. Michael Irvin just texted me saying, wow,

2660
02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:28,840
Speaker 1: humble brag Mutch no QB taken in the top ten,

2661
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:31,200
Speaker 1: I said, Mike, though, we're not out of the top

2662
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:33,880
Speaker 1: ten yet, but maybe he's got the NFL network board

2663
02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:37,280
Speaker 1: like running early right where those picks go playmakers. I'm

2664
02:11:37,320 --> 02:11:39,760
Speaker 1: hoping that. I'm hoping for that selfishly for my morning

2665
02:11:39,800 --> 02:11:43,760
Speaker 1: show that I think we're safe here at ten with

2666
02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:46,280
Speaker 1: the Jets. What are they looking at here? After they

2667
02:11:46,920 --> 02:11:50,480
Speaker 1: went with Corner with the first selection? Um, this this

2668
02:11:50,760 --> 02:11:56,560
Speaker 1: was the Drake London they wanted. They wanted London Wilson.

2669
02:11:56,680 --> 02:11:58,440
Speaker 1: Is this Garrett Wilson. I mean, I don't know what

2670
02:11:58,520 --> 02:12:01,320
Speaker 1: they think of Olave or something. The first wide receivers

2671
02:12:01,480 --> 02:12:03,560
Speaker 1: were supposed to come off the board at ten. That

2672
02:12:03,720 --> 02:12:06,520
Speaker 1: I mean, every every draft, everybody had talked about when's

2673
02:12:06,520 --> 02:12:09,080
Speaker 1: the first wide receiver gonna come. It was gonna be ten,

2674
02:12:09,200 --> 02:12:11,160
Speaker 1: but it just happened to go to Atlanta. You know,

2675
02:12:11,360 --> 02:12:13,880
Speaker 1: a couple picks earlier there. But are you guys talking

2676
02:12:13,880 --> 02:12:17,360
Speaker 1: a little lineman for the Jets as well? I don't

2677
02:12:17,400 --> 02:12:19,920
Speaker 1: know that. I mean, if they like Penning enough, sure, yeah.

2678
02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:21,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that they like Penning like that. You

2679
02:12:22,040 --> 02:12:24,320
Speaker 1: also look at Kyle Hamilton being on the board here.

2680
02:12:24,400 --> 02:12:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't think they would do that, but at least

2681
02:12:26,280 --> 02:12:28,560
Speaker 1: in terms of top players available, he's up there at

2682
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:30,400
Speaker 1: the top of the list. I don't know if they

2683
02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:32,000
Speaker 1: would go to Penning either. I'm right there with I

2684
02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:35,840
Speaker 1: think I think Jets go Garrett Wilson here. If I think,

2685
02:12:36,720 --> 02:12:39,160
Speaker 1: I think the Commanders then go either top receiver. They're

2686
02:12:39,200 --> 02:12:41,600
Speaker 1: taking Kyle. They love Kyle Hamilton and Washing, yeah they do.

2687
02:12:41,680 --> 02:12:43,680
Speaker 1: Who are the best linemen on the board, because as

2688
02:12:43,720 --> 02:12:50,560
Speaker 1: you mentioned Helman earlier, that's what the top edge not

2689
02:12:50,800 --> 02:12:53,280
Speaker 1: not not for Brian. Brian's got Karloft is here. I

2690
02:12:53,400 --> 02:12:56,720
Speaker 1: was reading branching into Jordan Davis territory as well. Yeah,

2691
02:12:56,800 --> 02:13:00,920
Speaker 1: that seems high. But everybody like Jeremiah from for Michael

2692
02:13:00,960 --> 02:13:04,320
Speaker 1: lombartin Michael Lombardi said that Jordan Davis should have been

2693
02:13:04,560 --> 02:13:07,320
Speaker 1: the number one pick your boy brought us former NFL

2694
02:13:07,720 --> 02:13:10,800
Speaker 1: Mike loves those defensive linemen like that though, he really does.

2695
02:13:10,840 --> 02:13:13,000
Speaker 1: But that's a highweight speed thing. That's that. That's that

2696
02:13:13,480 --> 02:13:16,360
Speaker 1: Al Davis training that you get where oh my gosh,

2697
02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:18,680
Speaker 1: the guys three hundred and forty pounds and he ran

2698
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:20,760
Speaker 1: four seven eight. You know, one of those things if

2699
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:24,440
Speaker 1: it was going to be a defensive lineman. Um, Jordan

2700
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:27,200
Speaker 1: Davis and Jermaine Johnson make the most sense at this point.

2701
02:13:27,800 --> 02:13:31,040
Speaker 1: All right, so the commanders will be after this out eleven.

2702
02:13:31,160 --> 02:13:33,560
Speaker 1: What did you say you were feeling for Loston Wilson

2703
02:13:33,680 --> 02:13:38,080
Speaker 1: here and then Kyle Hamilton. Kyle Hamilton is a commander's

2704
02:13:38,480 --> 02:13:41,000
Speaker 1: guy I had I had heard Washington was really in

2705
02:13:41,160 --> 02:13:44,680
Speaker 1: on Kyle Hamilton and Drake London. Yeah. I also Ron

2706
02:13:44,840 --> 02:13:47,680
Speaker 1: Rivera loves the Ohio State kids too, That's what I

2707
02:13:47,800 --> 02:13:50,440
Speaker 1: was saying. Olaby was a guy that people were talking

2708
02:13:50,480 --> 02:13:53,240
Speaker 1: about potentially there as well, and I'm talking receiver a

2709
02:13:53,320 --> 02:13:57,280
Speaker 1: lot they have. I know Rivera likes the Ohio State kids,

2710
02:13:57,360 --> 02:14:00,280
Speaker 1: but I've heard Kyle Hamilton a lot Le Hamilton. Yeah, everybody,

2711
02:14:00,360 --> 02:14:02,400
Speaker 1: that's that's absolutely right. Well they just moved on from

2712
02:14:02,480 --> 02:14:05,480
Speaker 1: landon Collins too, they did, ye all right. So we

2713
02:14:05,800 --> 02:14:08,920
Speaker 1: have the newer Jets on the clock than the Commanders,

2714
02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:13,120
Speaker 1: than the Minnesota Vikings, the Texans back there at number thirteen,

2715
02:14:13,440 --> 02:14:17,000
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens at fourteen, and then the Philadelphia Eagles

2716
02:14:17,200 --> 02:14:21,840
Speaker 1: at fifteen. Sean Sharif, Kyle Yeoman's, David Hellman, Brian brought

2717
02:14:21,920 --> 02:14:24,880
Speaker 1: us and Bobby belt with not a ton of surprises.

2718
02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:27,240
Speaker 1: So far, the guys have been crushing the picks in

2719
02:14:27,360 --> 02:14:31,040
Speaker 1: terms of the predictions. So let's see what happens here, Bobby,

2720
02:14:31,040 --> 02:14:33,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna go on the record with this. Garrett Wilson,

2721
02:14:33,320 --> 02:14:39,960
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, Roger Goodell prove Bobby right est pick in

2722
02:14:40,080 --> 02:14:43,760
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Drags. The New York Jets

2723
02:14:43,800 --> 02:14:50,600
Speaker 1: select Garrett Wilson wide receiver, Ohio saying, look at that suit.

2724
02:14:50,760 --> 02:14:53,720
Speaker 1: There we go, little little gray, little white, little split

2725
02:14:53,840 --> 02:14:56,560
Speaker 1: suit there. So Garrett Wilson the receiver goes to the

2726
02:14:56,640 --> 02:14:58,640
Speaker 1: New York Jets and try to get their young quarterbacks

2727
02:14:58,720 --> 02:15:01,240
Speaker 1: some help. Are they gonna try to get Carson once?

2728
02:15:01,360 --> 02:15:04,560
Speaker 1: Some help? The commanders are on the clock. Next this

2729
02:15:04,720 --> 02:15:07,000
Speaker 1: is the twenty twenty two NFL Draft on one oh

2730
02:15:07,080 --> 02:15:10,640
Speaker 1: five three the Fan and the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network.

2731
02:15:16,640 --> 02:15:19,040
Speaker 1: I'll go on the record right now and say it'll

2732
02:15:19,080 --> 02:15:23,080
Speaker 1: be Hamilton or Hamilton or at Hamilton, or whoever they

2733
02:15:23,120 --> 02:15:25,680
Speaker 1: think is the top rest for Jamison Arl I'm Hamilton.

2734
02:15:25,760 --> 02:15:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm going Hamilton, and I gotta tell y'all now. Tomorrow

2735
02:15:29,840 --> 02:15:31,920
Speaker 1: we're changing up the Seaton arrangement. I went Dave to

2736
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:34,000
Speaker 1: sit over here so that he can see I'm calling

2737
02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:36,480
Speaker 1: picks out and not looking at Twitter because he does

2738
02:15:36,560 --> 02:15:38,600
Speaker 1: not believe me. I don't believe you at all, because

2739
02:15:38,640 --> 02:15:40,600
Speaker 1: I have Twitter. You've been look. Sean's been sitting here

2740
02:15:40,680 --> 02:15:42,160
Speaker 1: right next to me. I have the NFL. Look, man,

2741
02:15:42,200 --> 02:15:45,240
Speaker 1: I've been staring at soda for a caffeine face. I'm

2742
02:15:45,560 --> 02:15:48,000
Speaker 1: looking at you. Sorry, And I used to be accused

2743
02:15:48,040 --> 02:15:50,320
Speaker 1: of all this. We can't like Dave. You can get

2744
02:15:50,360 --> 02:15:53,920
Speaker 1: service if you want something, let me know. Bobby. I

2745
02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:56,160
Speaker 1: will say it's a normal thing, because even if you

2746
02:15:56,240 --> 02:15:58,480
Speaker 1: get to get anything right, fans will be like, oh,

2747
02:15:58,520 --> 02:16:00,760
Speaker 1: you're just cheating your your telegraph. After the picks, it's

2748
02:16:00,800 --> 02:16:02,880
Speaker 1: like the fans. This dude knows I talk to people.

2749
02:16:02,880 --> 02:16:09,200
Speaker 1: He should know better. I haven't done enough trolling of helmet.

2750
02:16:09,240 --> 02:16:10,880
Speaker 1: We're ten picks in and I've made like one helmet

2751
02:16:10,920 --> 02:16:13,520
Speaker 1: who leaks? Who has been the inside that leaks it?

2752
02:16:13,760 --> 02:16:17,000
Speaker 1: Nowadays the schefter leak it? Who leaks? Oh, I don't

2753
02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:18,560
Speaker 1: see I don't think. I think they've cracked down on

2754
02:16:18,640 --> 02:16:22,280
Speaker 1: that pretty good. Yeah, I mean that is it? Is

2755
02:16:22,280 --> 02:16:24,360
Speaker 1: it an open secret? Like do people know? I mean

2756
02:16:24,440 --> 02:16:27,120
Speaker 1: the actual league is like eight minutes ahead of TV.

2757
02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:30,040
Speaker 1: People know that. That was awesome one year I saw that.

2758
02:16:30,080 --> 02:16:32,320
Speaker 1: And so there's enough people who talk and like who

2759
02:16:32,400 --> 02:16:35,080
Speaker 1: tweet stuff out and like, I mean there's people in

2760
02:16:35,160 --> 02:16:37,600
Speaker 1: every building that have access to it. They've done they've

2761
02:16:37,640 --> 02:16:39,520
Speaker 1: cracked down on it a lot harder than they used to.

2762
02:16:40,000 --> 02:16:42,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, I got out of control for a little bit.

2763
02:16:42,480 --> 02:16:46,840
Speaker 1: What's actually happening is it gets it gets crazier on

2764
02:16:46,959 --> 02:16:50,040
Speaker 1: like day three, like that they're on day three. The

2765
02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:53,080
Speaker 1: actual picks are half wild West, fifteen minutes before the

2766
02:16:53,160 --> 02:16:56,000
Speaker 1: TV catches up like it's insane. The only pick I've

2767
02:16:56,040 --> 02:16:59,360
Speaker 1: seen Schefter or Ian today get out in front of

2768
02:16:59,520 --> 02:17:01,240
Speaker 1: where they were calling it before it was announced, was

2769
02:17:01,480 --> 02:17:03,600
Speaker 1: a minute before they said it was Trayvon Walker. That's

2770
02:17:03,600 --> 02:17:06,920
Speaker 1: the one I've seen today. Who's the NBA guy Shams? Yeah, yeah,

2771
02:17:07,040 --> 02:17:09,640
Speaker 1: he he had it too, which I always love when

2772
02:17:09,680 --> 02:17:12,600
Speaker 1: there's crossover, like the NBA guys are tipping NFL picks,

2773
02:17:13,240 --> 02:17:15,640
Speaker 1: but they can't get in trouble. Was he was doing?

2774
02:17:15,800 --> 02:17:19,800
Speaker 1: We got our first trade? I don't know, Brian, you

2775
02:17:19,920 --> 02:17:22,680
Speaker 1: call it? Y'all have been talking Ryan, the Saints are

2776
02:17:22,720 --> 02:17:26,320
Speaker 1: so and so? Who wait? Who do they like? Tell us, Brian,

2777
02:17:26,440 --> 02:17:27,960
Speaker 1: I think it's a quarterback. I think it's for the

2778
02:17:28,000 --> 02:17:29,640
Speaker 1: quarter I think it is I think it's Malik Willis.

2779
02:17:29,680 --> 02:17:31,600
Speaker 1: I think it's Willis. Yeah, yeah, I think they're I

2780
02:17:31,640 --> 02:17:33,400
Speaker 1: think they're going for Willis. How funny would it be?

2781
02:17:34,680 --> 02:17:37,160
Speaker 1: QB one pick outside the top ten? They didn't like

2782
02:17:37,280 --> 02:17:40,360
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton enough? So happy? I'm so? Or do they

2783
02:17:40,400 --> 02:17:43,240
Speaker 1: think he'll fall to fifteen or excuse me, sixteen? If

2784
02:17:43,280 --> 02:17:45,960
Speaker 1: they got sixteen, we don't know what the competence. Okay,

2785
02:17:46,320 --> 02:17:47,880
Speaker 1: maybe this is maybe it's not Hamiling could they go

2786
02:17:47,920 --> 02:17:50,520
Speaker 1: for the wide receiver here to go with the wide

2787
02:17:50,560 --> 02:17:54,320
Speaker 1: receiver and then wait for and then wait for h

2788
02:17:54,800 --> 02:17:58,879
Speaker 1: at sixteen, wait for Willis were in weren't they also

2789
02:17:58,959 --> 02:18:02,320
Speaker 1: in tackle talk though? Is this Penning? Yeah, the tackles

2790
02:18:02,320 --> 02:18:04,720
Speaker 1: are all the tackles were all off the Pennings. They

2791
02:18:04,800 --> 02:18:06,600
Speaker 1: thought that, Yeah, if I had to, if I had

2792
02:18:06,600 --> 02:18:10,480
Speaker 1: to bet, if I had to bet the three positions, quarterback, tackle,

2793
02:18:11,080 --> 02:18:14,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver. But I didn't feel like the Saints were

2794
02:18:14,360 --> 02:18:16,960
Speaker 1: done man, because we were talking about that. You just

2795
02:18:17,120 --> 02:18:20,280
Speaker 1: don't do that. You don't. You just don't like, oh,

2796
02:18:20,480 --> 02:18:22,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna trade up till sixteen just because we like

2797
02:18:23,000 --> 02:18:25,880
Speaker 1: that spot, Like nobody does that. Now that we're looking

2798
02:18:25,920 --> 02:18:27,320
Speaker 1: through it, though, I'm gonna go back to what brought

2799
02:18:27,400 --> 02:18:30,120
Speaker 1: us was saying a second Jamison, it's pick sixteen, a

2800
02:18:30,280 --> 02:18:32,760
Speaker 1: third and a fourth for eleven, so they still have

2801
02:18:33,400 --> 02:18:36,400
Speaker 1: nineteen if I mean, look at the teams in between them,

2802
02:18:36,400 --> 02:18:39,040
Speaker 1: the Vikings, the Texans, Ravens, Eagles. None of those teams

2803
02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:42,360
Speaker 1: were going to take a quarterback regardless however, somebody could

2804
02:18:42,440 --> 02:18:46,520
Speaker 1: trade it up. So there's I mean, there's president that

2805
02:18:46,600 --> 02:18:48,720
Speaker 1: a quarterback could be the selection here. But it's not

2806
02:18:48,920 --> 02:18:53,760
Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion. Yeah, I mean I would do that trade. Wait,

2807
02:18:53,959 --> 02:18:55,880
Speaker 1: what was the compensation again? A third, a fourth and

2808
02:18:55,920 --> 02:18:59,480
Speaker 1: pick sixteen? Bro, I would do that for Jamison Williams

2809
02:18:59,520 --> 02:19:02,080
Speaker 1: in a beat. That's what I like. I'm saying going

2810
02:19:02,200 --> 02:19:04,160
Speaker 1: up was not gonna cost the same. I would do

2811
02:19:04,320 --> 02:19:22,640
Speaker 1: that in a hard beat. Sean Sharife, Bobby Belt, Brian

2812
02:19:22,680 --> 02:19:27,120
Speaker 1: brought us David Helmet and Kyle Yeoman's here with round

2813
02:19:27,240 --> 02:19:29,920
Speaker 1: number one and we have a trade. Boys, we have

2814
02:19:30,080 --> 02:19:33,400
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints on the clock. They have moved

2815
02:19:33,480 --> 02:19:37,760
Speaker 1: up to number eleven. What is this for? What are

2816
02:19:37,800 --> 02:19:41,480
Speaker 1: we thinking here? I mean anytime, the natural inclination when

2817
02:19:41,720 --> 02:19:45,320
Speaker 1: something like this happens is quarterback. But we all agree

2818
02:19:45,400 --> 02:19:48,119
Speaker 1: that maybe these quarterbacks aren't worth it. They to Ron

2819
02:19:48,240 --> 02:19:51,119
Speaker 1: Armstead's in Miami. Now they need to tackle. Maybe they're

2820
02:19:51,720 --> 02:19:55,680
Speaker 1: convinced maybe Penning is their last shot at getting a

2821
02:19:56,000 --> 02:19:59,440
Speaker 1: tall to can't afford the weight, and they've they keep

2822
02:19:59,520 --> 02:20:01,880
Speaker 1: their other first round pick, right, so like, yeah, it

2823
02:20:01,959 --> 02:20:03,640
Speaker 1: was a third and a fourth, they're not moving out

2824
02:20:03,680 --> 02:20:05,600
Speaker 1: of the round entirely. So you can get your tackle

2825
02:20:05,720 --> 02:20:08,840
Speaker 1: here and get a receiver. Like it's sixteen ninety eight

2826
02:20:08,920 --> 02:20:11,959
Speaker 1: and one twenty. Do we know who they like between

2827
02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:15,720
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks? They like willis More? Yeah, they will. Man,

2828
02:20:15,800 --> 02:20:19,240
Speaker 1: the Saints are so aggressive, Yeah, down the Chiefs. That

2829
02:20:19,440 --> 02:20:22,160
Speaker 1: was in the cards they were playing in this. I mean,

2830
02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm convincing, but it's still an aggressive thing to do

2831
02:20:24,560 --> 02:20:26,720
Speaker 1: it right away a future one. That's that's the thing

2832
02:20:26,840 --> 02:20:29,240
Speaker 1: they call again nineteen or excuse me, ninety eight? What

2833
02:20:29,320 --> 02:20:32,480
Speaker 1: else was the last one before? I think jumping for

2834
02:20:32,640 --> 02:20:37,640
Speaker 1: quarterback though, maybe they're jumping a potential trade. Yeah, that's yeah,

2835
02:20:37,680 --> 02:20:39,879
Speaker 1: if the price is that low, maybe they know other

2836
02:20:39,959 --> 02:20:42,120
Speaker 1: people could becoming see and that is the thing. So

2837
02:20:42,400 --> 02:20:44,840
Speaker 1: I've heard Titans could go up over Packers to try

2838
02:20:44,879 --> 02:20:47,640
Speaker 1: and get Burkes, and so there's chatter that the Packers

2839
02:20:47,680 --> 02:20:50,560
Speaker 1: could try to just jump up further than that before

2840
02:20:50,680 --> 02:20:54,240
Speaker 1: Titans can even execute a trade. All right, So New

2841
02:20:54,360 --> 02:20:56,160
Speaker 1: Orleans is on the clock. Yeah, they get a loaded

2842
02:20:56,320 --> 02:20:59,840
Speaker 1: quarterback room just with bodies, depending on what you think

2843
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:03,720
Speaker 1: about Jamis. They brought in Andy Dalton as well. They

2844
02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:07,400
Speaker 1: finally gave up on the pocket knife project with Taysom Hill,

2845
02:21:07,480 --> 02:21:11,080
Speaker 1: thank god, and now they can start over with Dennis

2846
02:21:11,120 --> 02:21:14,880
Speaker 1: Allen as a head coach. For Sean Payton. I was

2847
02:21:14,920 --> 02:21:17,200
Speaker 1: always thinking Sean Payton was like also in there, really

2848
02:21:17,240 --> 02:21:20,680
Speaker 1: really aggressive. But is it still Mickey Loomis there? Lois

2849
02:21:20,720 --> 02:21:24,880
Speaker 1: still but Jeff Ireland also too, helping out things. You know,

2850
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:28,240
Speaker 1: they played really the whole season without Michael Thomas last year.

2851
02:21:28,360 --> 02:21:30,720
Speaker 1: That's they need a receiver too. But yeah, so if

2852
02:21:30,760 --> 02:21:32,560
Speaker 1: they love a receiver enough to make it, I mean

2853
02:21:32,800 --> 02:21:36,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned about Jamison Williams. I mean you mentioned that,

2854
02:21:37,080 --> 02:21:39,600
Speaker 1: you know, and to Chrystal Waby. I mean there's there's

2855
02:21:39,600 --> 02:21:41,680
Speaker 1: a couple of little options there. I think that you

2856
02:21:41,800 --> 02:21:46,160
Speaker 1: can you know, maybe the receiver. The tackle is another

2857
02:21:46,240 --> 02:21:49,240
Speaker 1: one too. They've got If you look at this, ram

2858
02:21:49,400 --> 02:21:53,720
Speaker 1: Check is the right tackle James Hurst playing left tackle

2859
02:21:53,800 --> 02:21:56,000
Speaker 1: for him right now. If it's not a quarterback, I

2860
02:21:56,120 --> 02:22:00,600
Speaker 1: would get my educated guests would be Trevor Penning. Who's

2861
02:22:00,600 --> 02:22:05,440
Speaker 1: the better prospect between Penning and your number one receiver left? Well,

2862
02:22:05,480 --> 02:22:07,800
Speaker 1: I've got two of them. I mean I've got I've

2863
02:22:07,800 --> 02:22:10,120
Speaker 1: got a Lobby and Williams, both in the first round

2864
02:22:10,200 --> 02:22:12,800
Speaker 1: that are still left on my board. So to me,

2865
02:22:13,120 --> 02:22:15,840
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be harder for them to find

2866
02:22:15,959 --> 02:22:18,600
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. That's why I think this. I think

2867
02:22:18,680 --> 02:22:22,880
Speaker 1: that's why they're making this move. That's that's a scarcity

2868
02:22:22,920 --> 02:22:26,160
Speaker 1: of position like every I mean again, I think about

2869
02:22:26,200 --> 02:22:28,200
Speaker 1: what Will said to us at the combine Will McClay

2870
02:22:28,360 --> 02:22:30,400
Speaker 1: every day, where he's just like you can kind of

2871
02:22:30,440 --> 02:22:33,320
Speaker 1: count on five or six freaky receivers being in every draft.

2872
02:22:33,400 --> 02:22:36,760
Speaker 1: It's like, of course the ones at the top are better,

2873
02:22:36,879 --> 02:22:38,880
Speaker 1: but you can find those guys. How far down is

2874
02:22:38,920 --> 02:22:41,360
Speaker 1: the next tackle you have after penning? It's where the

2875
02:22:41,800 --> 02:22:50,400
Speaker 1: Bernard Ryman's Central Michigan talking, Yeah, it's okay. So if

2876
02:22:50,480 --> 02:22:52,640
Speaker 1: we clear penning here, I think this is where you

2877
02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:56,119
Speaker 1: might start seeing them work the phones. M I think

2878
02:22:56,120 --> 02:22:58,119
Speaker 1: you're going to get a receiver here. I think you're

2879
02:22:58,240 --> 02:23:00,920
Speaker 1: I think Brian spot On you mentioned I mentioned three.

2880
02:23:02,000 --> 02:23:04,120
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell has the announcement for the Saints, who have

2881
02:23:04,280 --> 02:23:07,879
Speaker 1: moved up with the Commanders. For all thirty two teams

2882
02:23:07,920 --> 02:23:11,880
Speaker 1: and their fans, We've got a similar time two weeks

2883
02:23:11,920 --> 02:23:16,760
Speaker 1: from tonight when we announced the twenty twenty two schedule

2884
02:23:16,920 --> 02:23:21,720
Speaker 1: on May twelfth. This year's schedule will have a new twist,

2885
02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:24,880
Speaker 1: as our Thursday night games will be carried by a

2886
02:23:24,959 --> 02:23:31,120
Speaker 1: new partner, Amazon Prime Video. Ching joining me our Chargers

2887
02:23:31,160 --> 02:23:37,360
Speaker 1: in chief season ticket members James Debo and Moosevelt. Can

2888
02:23:37,440 --> 02:23:41,680
Speaker 1: I get my first make the pickups? Also here is

2889
02:23:41,720 --> 02:23:45,160
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Famer Tony Gonzalez, who will be

2890
02:23:45,320 --> 02:23:51,720
Speaker 1: part of the Prime Video broadcast teaming the regulation. Tony say, thanks, Rogers.

2891
02:23:52,360 --> 02:23:57,640
Speaker 1: How's everybody doing great? I'm excited. Did you play for

2892
02:23:57,720 --> 02:24:01,040
Speaker 1: the same broadcast recruits for Amazon? You're gonna recognize this

2893
02:24:01,200 --> 02:24:03,000
Speaker 1: guy right here next to me. He's gonna be helping

2894
02:24:03,040 --> 02:24:06,320
Speaker 1: me make this announcement for the Prime Video which will

2895
02:24:06,360 --> 02:24:10,720
Speaker 1: be airing on Week two of the NFL season September fifteenth.

2896
02:24:11,400 --> 02:24:17,480
Speaker 1: Los Angeles running back Austin Ekeler and I guess you

2897
02:24:17,520 --> 02:24:20,360
Speaker 1: can tell probably it's no surprise the first game that

2898
02:24:20,400 --> 02:24:22,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna kick it off is gonna be on the

2899
02:24:22,360 --> 02:24:26,720
Speaker 1: Arrowhead well Thursday nights. But it says at the Chargers

2900
02:24:28,760 --> 02:24:31,600
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, Austin, If you you want

2901
02:24:31,640 --> 02:24:36,440
Speaker 1: my opinion about this game, they just announced a game. Yeah,

2902
02:24:36,800 --> 02:24:39,920
Speaker 1: it's the first Thursday night football game. Look, it doesn't

2903
02:24:39,920 --> 02:24:42,000
Speaker 1: get much better than this. It doesn't get much better

2904
02:24:42,080 --> 02:24:45,520
Speaker 1: than this Thursday football. You got two high power teams

2905
02:24:45,640 --> 02:24:48,120
Speaker 1: battling it out. It's gonna be halfba It's gonna be

2906
02:24:48,160 --> 02:24:50,640
Speaker 1: an amazing thing. Even if you don't rob with the

2907
02:24:50,840 --> 02:24:52,560
Speaker 1: with the Chargers achieved. I know you got me on

2908
02:24:52,640 --> 02:24:54,840
Speaker 1: your fantasy team, so there's no point. I'll watch it.

2909
02:24:54,959 --> 02:24:58,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be awesome. Awareness I'll tell you what we're

2910
02:24:58,400 --> 02:25:00,480
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. This broad Week goes back to

2911
02:25:01,280 --> 02:25:03,880
Speaker 1: two years. You're not going to see every time these

2912
02:25:03,920 --> 02:25:07,400
Speaker 1: two teams get together. It's it's closing, it's fireworks, it's touchdowns,

2913
02:25:07,440 --> 02:25:10,520
Speaker 1: great deepens. So we will see you there September fifteenth,

2914
02:25:12,840 --> 02:25:15,400
Speaker 1: all right, So well, those guys announced something for a while.

2915
02:25:16,000 --> 02:25:17,720
Speaker 1: They let them go up there and do that whole

2916
02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:21,000
Speaker 1: promo without the selection. September fifteenth, when we're gonna get

2917
02:25:21,000 --> 02:25:23,600
Speaker 1: our next pick in Bobby, what's going down right now?

2918
02:25:23,760 --> 02:25:26,800
Speaker 1: It hasn't been announced yet. Rappaport has it. It's not

2919
02:25:27,040 --> 02:25:29,120
Speaker 1: up there yet though you I'm gonna say the trade,

2920
02:25:29,120 --> 02:25:31,360
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, the trade. The Lions are moving up

2921
02:25:31,400 --> 02:25:34,920
Speaker 1: to twelve. They've traded thirty two, thirty four and sixty

2922
02:25:34,959 --> 02:25:37,039
Speaker 1: six to the Vikings for twelve and forty six. All right,

2923
02:25:37,120 --> 02:25:38,920
Speaker 1: now we have to take for the Saints twenty two

2924
02:25:39,080 --> 02:25:46,240
Speaker 1: NFL drafting, the New Orleans Saints select Chris Olave, ride

2925
02:25:46,280 --> 02:25:51,360
Speaker 1: receiver Ohio State. Well, I did look at Twitter for

2926
02:25:51,440 --> 02:25:54,800
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, that's fine. I'll be honest with you, man,

2927
02:25:55,080 --> 02:25:57,879
Speaker 1: that's fine. Ohio State receivers going back to back there.

2928
02:25:57,920 --> 02:26:00,160
Speaker 1: How about how I'll steal this line out of Ryan

2929
02:26:00,200 --> 02:26:03,840
Speaker 1: brought us his playbook. The Saints don't care. The Saints

2930
02:26:03,840 --> 02:26:05,840
Speaker 1: don't care. They're gonna go get their players. Yeah, trade

2931
02:26:05,879 --> 02:26:09,039
Speaker 1: away a future one for a defensive end. Sure, move

2932
02:26:09,160 --> 02:26:11,120
Speaker 1: up twice to get a wide receiver. Why not? They

2933
02:26:11,240 --> 02:26:12,800
Speaker 1: like to take a whole draft to go all the

2934
02:26:12,840 --> 02:26:14,840
Speaker 1: way up to get a running back like the Rams.

2935
02:26:14,920 --> 02:26:18,000
Speaker 1: But they're just like, I mean, screw the future. They

2936
02:26:18,080 --> 02:26:20,520
Speaker 1: still pick. The Rams don't pick. Yeah, the Rams don't pick.

2937
02:26:20,600 --> 02:26:22,840
Speaker 1: The Saints are like, why have three picks when we

2938
02:26:22,879 --> 02:26:26,280
Speaker 1: can make one? Are you surprised that they gave all

2939
02:26:26,360 --> 02:26:29,160
Speaker 1: that up for a Lave? I don't know that that's

2940
02:26:29,240 --> 02:26:32,040
Speaker 1: all that much. I agree. Well, there's maneuvering, right, Like

2941
02:26:32,160 --> 02:26:34,640
Speaker 1: the Eagles sent them some stuff back. Like, it's not

2942
02:26:34,760 --> 02:26:38,400
Speaker 1: like they get Comanders. I'm talking about the first first trade.

2943
02:26:41,000 --> 02:26:42,560
Speaker 1: They got stuff back. It's not it's not like a

2944
02:26:42,680 --> 02:26:45,160
Speaker 1: Ricky Williams situation where they were like take all our picks.

2945
02:26:45,360 --> 02:26:49,000
Speaker 1: So look, Michael Thomas, Olave Alvin Kamara. I like, I

2946
02:26:49,120 --> 02:26:51,720
Speaker 1: like the pairing. I just that's that's a lot to

2947
02:26:51,760 --> 02:26:54,160
Speaker 1: do for a wide receiver in my opinion, especially, I mean,

2948
02:26:54,480 --> 02:26:56,560
Speaker 1: I like Chris Lave a lot. I think he would

2949
02:26:56,600 --> 02:26:59,840
Speaker 1: have what type of player is fit. He's a technic.

2950
02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:02,960
Speaker 1: He's Terry Glenn with better hands. Wow, that's who he

2951
02:27:03,120 --> 02:27:07,080
Speaker 1: is and an Ohio State comp day. Yeah, well, when

2952
02:27:07,120 --> 02:27:09,199
Speaker 1: you look at the body type. To me, and I've

2953
02:27:09,240 --> 02:27:11,280
Speaker 1: seen Terry Glenn, We've all kind of seen Terry Glenn.

2954
02:27:11,680 --> 02:27:14,240
Speaker 1: Rookie year at New England, he had ninety receptions. I

2955
02:27:14,320 --> 02:27:18,240
Speaker 1: watched his kid play. He's slippery, he plays in tight

2956
02:27:18,360 --> 02:27:21,560
Speaker 1: spaces really well. He can catch the ball. He's really

2957
02:27:21,640 --> 02:27:24,640
Speaker 1: smart about not taking big hits too. But you watch

2958
02:27:24,760 --> 02:27:27,400
Speaker 1: him play attention to detail with him, ball goes to

2959
02:27:27,440 --> 02:27:30,080
Speaker 1: the sidelines, he catches it both feet down. He's not

2960
02:27:30,200 --> 02:27:32,800
Speaker 1: like a one foot down drag guy. He's a bring

2961
02:27:33,400 --> 02:27:36,440
Speaker 1: both feet He's a very conscious guy about the way

2962
02:27:36,560 --> 02:27:39,360
Speaker 1: he plays. I think, like I said, when I was

2963
02:27:39,400 --> 02:27:41,800
Speaker 1: watching him play that old school comp, I was kind

2964
02:27:41,800 --> 02:27:44,480
Speaker 1: of thinking Terry Glen with better hands, deep threat ability,

2965
02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:48,240
Speaker 1: one of the more electrocifying receivers in all of college football.

2966
02:27:48,320 --> 02:27:51,520
Speaker 1: He's so crisps, he's so smooth, clean route runner, and

2967
02:27:51,640 --> 02:27:54,400
Speaker 1: he's masterful in This is why I think the Cowboys

2968
02:27:54,440 --> 02:27:57,119
Speaker 1: had him as one of those top receivers on their board.

2969
02:27:57,200 --> 02:28:00,680
Speaker 1: He creates all sorts of separation and he does it

2970
02:28:00,680 --> 02:28:03,360
Speaker 1: at the lion of scrimmage, doesn't waste any time building

2971
02:28:03,400 --> 02:28:05,600
Speaker 1: some room between him and defender. And I'm happy for

2972
02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:08,039
Speaker 1: him that he went so highly because, like I think

2973
02:28:08,120 --> 02:28:11,400
Speaker 1: people just overlook him because like he's he's a slight guy,

2974
02:28:11,640 --> 02:28:14,840
Speaker 1: Like he's not trailing Burke's with this huge build or

2975
02:28:14,959 --> 02:28:19,440
Speaker 1: Drake London. Uh, he just he's kind of forgettable physically,

2976
02:28:19,520 --> 02:28:21,600
Speaker 1: so people kind of gloss over him in my opinion.

2977
02:28:21,680 --> 02:28:23,480
Speaker 1: But he's a hell of a football player. I feel

2978
02:28:23,480 --> 02:28:26,800
Speaker 1: like we've talked about poetic justice too throughout this show

2979
02:28:26,920 --> 02:28:29,240
Speaker 1: so far, and the fact that both yeah it is

2980
02:28:29,640 --> 02:28:32,840
Speaker 1: both of the Ohio State receivers going back to back,

2981
02:28:32,879 --> 02:28:34,640
Speaker 1: it just seems to fit a little bit. Yeah, no

2982
02:28:34,760 --> 02:28:42,920
Speaker 1: teammates going together. What special delivery, But John's live delivery

2983
02:28:43,720 --> 02:28:45,560
Speaker 1: put it right there on the table. My good man

2984
02:28:45,760 --> 02:28:47,480
Speaker 1: We'll put it right here this yeah, actually put it

2985
02:28:47,680 --> 02:28:49,800
Speaker 1: right over here by me, please, it's about to say

2986
02:28:49,840 --> 02:28:51,760
Speaker 1: put it in between me. Hey, look you got some

2987
02:28:51,879 --> 02:28:56,440
Speaker 1: caffeine too. I forgot. We are still live in the radio.

2988
02:28:56,480 --> 02:28:58,600
Speaker 1: Papa John's coming like you never know what's going to

2989
02:28:58,640 --> 02:29:01,360
Speaker 1: happen at the Star man Bobs, never know. Why are

2990
02:29:01,440 --> 02:29:04,320
Speaker 1: the Lions moving up? So a lot of people have

2991
02:29:04,400 --> 02:29:06,200
Speaker 1: them picking a quarterback at the back of the first

2992
02:29:06,760 --> 02:29:10,280
Speaker 1: quarterback eat everything. That's but here's here's here's what's interesting

2993
02:29:10,320 --> 02:29:14,600
Speaker 1: to me. Thank you, Papa John shouts out to Papa

2994
02:29:14,680 --> 02:29:17,880
Speaker 1: John's appreciate it. Oh yeah, that's wonderful, Thank you. I

2995
02:29:17,959 --> 02:29:21,680
Speaker 1: was so hungry. Um, we're on we're on radio right

2996
02:29:21,760 --> 02:29:26,800
Speaker 1: were what is interesting to me? Here about the trade up? Though,

2997
02:29:27,400 --> 02:29:30,560
Speaker 1: uh New Orleans. When they the way they moved up,

2998
02:29:31,720 --> 02:29:34,280
Speaker 1: Washington got shortered about one hundred points on the trade

2999
02:29:34,360 --> 02:29:38,560
Speaker 1: value chart. The combination of the picks Minnesota got totaled

3000
02:29:38,640 --> 02:29:41,000
Speaker 1: up to fourteen ten and they gave away sixteen forty.

3001
02:29:42,160 --> 02:29:45,080
Speaker 1: And so there's the trade up. It's a buyer's market.

3002
02:29:45,120 --> 02:29:47,520
Speaker 1: If Dallas wants to go up here, if Dallas wants

3003
02:29:47,560 --> 02:29:48,760
Speaker 1: to get up in the mid teens, I don't think

3004
02:29:49,240 --> 02:29:51,200
Speaker 1: wook us through that again what you just said. Yeah,

3005
02:29:51,240 --> 02:29:54,160
Speaker 1: so according to the trade value charts, yes, New Orleans

3006
02:29:54,720 --> 02:29:57,280
Speaker 1: got like got a value there. Washington got shortered about

3007
02:29:57,280 --> 02:30:01,240
Speaker 1: one hundred points for the value of pickle up. But

3008
02:30:01,360 --> 02:30:04,119
Speaker 1: then when you look at what Minnesota just traded away,

3009
02:30:04,120 --> 02:30:06,360
Speaker 1: which was twelve and forty six, the points there is

3010
02:30:06,400 --> 02:30:10,280
Speaker 1: sixteen forty and what Detroit gave up was thirty two

3011
02:30:11,040 --> 02:30:13,840
Speaker 1: thirty four, and then they also gave up sixty six

3012
02:30:13,879 --> 02:30:16,080
Speaker 1: and that told it up to fourteen ten. And so

3013
02:30:16,200 --> 02:30:18,640
Speaker 1: they they won that trade by two hundred and thirty points.

3014
02:30:19,160 --> 02:30:21,400
Speaker 1: Two hundred thirty points is the seventy second pick in

3015
02:30:21,480 --> 02:30:24,920
Speaker 1: the draft. Wow, So what's that? That's fast? That's a gap.

3016
02:30:25,240 --> 02:30:29,480
Speaker 1: Break it down for dummies like me. Basically, the nobody

3017
02:30:29,600 --> 02:30:31,600
Speaker 1: thinks the players at the top of this draft are

3018
02:30:31,680 --> 02:30:34,320
Speaker 1: valuable enough to like get a king's ranch. People want depth,

3019
02:30:34,440 --> 02:30:36,680
Speaker 1: They want to get more picks and take less to

3020
02:30:36,720 --> 02:30:38,920
Speaker 1: move back. Yep, yep. And so I mean if if

3021
02:30:39,080 --> 02:30:41,560
Speaker 1: and more confident that good players will be around, then

3022
02:30:41,640 --> 02:30:44,360
Speaker 1: taking a risk on these this range of picks right here.

3023
02:30:44,480 --> 02:30:47,520
Speaker 1: So if Dallas wants to go up for somebody, whether

3024
02:30:47,560 --> 02:30:49,960
Speaker 1: it be go up for Penning or go up for

3025
02:30:50,480 --> 02:30:52,720
Speaker 1: one of these other guys that they might like. It

3026
02:30:52,920 --> 02:30:54,960
Speaker 1: shouldn't cost him a ton. Who will we pick them

3027
02:30:54,959 --> 02:30:57,480
Speaker 1: for the Lions? Goodell is at the podium, Pallas, it's

3028
02:30:57,520 --> 02:30:59,800
Speaker 1: gotta be Willis. Yeah, quarterback, you wouldn't go for this.

3029
02:31:00,240 --> 02:31:03,600
Speaker 1: Let use a quarterback. With the twelve pick in the

3030
02:31:03,720 --> 02:31:08,720
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions select Jamison

3031
02:31:08,800 --> 02:31:16,440
Speaker 1: Willman Williams, Oh wow, do you wow? Two moves up

3032
02:31:16,560 --> 02:31:18,920
Speaker 1: for two receivers. Do you want to throw your pin? Dave?

3033
02:31:20,680 --> 02:31:24,360
Speaker 1: I mean I never I never really believed he was

3034
02:31:24,440 --> 02:31:26,920
Speaker 1: never going to be a cowboy. But I love him.

3035
02:31:27,040 --> 02:31:29,560
Speaker 1: I can't. I hope it's okay, dream Jamison. I wish

3036
02:31:29,600 --> 02:31:31,520
Speaker 1: you all the success. Why do you love him? He's

3037
02:31:31,680 --> 02:31:35,120
Speaker 1: he's free, He's Tyreek hill Man. He's fast as all hell.

3038
02:31:35,440 --> 02:31:38,080
Speaker 1: He catches the football. But like that's it's not he's

3039
02:31:38,120 --> 02:31:40,120
Speaker 1: not just the speed guy. Like he's not just like

3040
02:31:40,360 --> 02:31:42,880
Speaker 1: run a go route guy, Like he is a polished

3041
02:31:42,959 --> 02:31:46,600
Speaker 1: receiver who happens to be fast as all hell. Am

3042
02:31:46,680 --> 02:31:48,120
Speaker 1: I am I off base with any of what I

3043
02:31:48,200 --> 02:31:50,600
Speaker 1: just said. No, no, Now he got hurt in the

3044
02:31:50,640 --> 02:31:54,039
Speaker 1: National championship, right and Bama wins that game if he doesn't. Yeah,

3045
02:31:54,080 --> 02:31:56,640
Speaker 1: that felt like I remember, that felt like their chances

3046
02:31:57,440 --> 02:32:00,600
Speaker 1: got dramatically lowered when Jameson Williams got hurt in that game.

3047
02:32:00,680 --> 02:32:02,760
Speaker 1: It's been a minute, and I was definitely I was

3048
02:32:02,840 --> 02:32:05,200
Speaker 1: having a few adult beverages while I watched it. But

3049
02:32:05,360 --> 02:32:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean he he terrorized George's defense in the SEC

3050
02:32:10,760 --> 02:32:13,440
Speaker 1: title game, which Bama one going away for Honest, do

3051
02:32:13,480 --> 02:32:16,000
Speaker 1: you have a problem with this from a team building standpoint? Well,

3052
02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:18,360
Speaker 1: you know what I really mean, giving away picks for

3053
02:32:18,400 --> 02:32:20,560
Speaker 1: a bad team. We just got another trade, by the way,

3054
02:32:20,680 --> 02:32:26,120
Speaker 1: big one too, while Philadelphia traded up the thirteen. Okay, now, okay,

3055
02:32:26,200 --> 02:32:27,879
Speaker 1: so that I was kind because I was looking at

3056
02:32:27,920 --> 02:32:30,640
Speaker 1: Houston was talking about wide receiver. You know, are we

3057
02:32:30,720 --> 02:32:32,960
Speaker 1: starting to see the runs on the wide receivers now

3058
02:32:33,080 --> 02:32:35,560
Speaker 1: here free? Yeah? I don't know, Like who do they like? Here?

3059
02:32:36,240 --> 02:32:38,960
Speaker 1: Is there any who? Is there any receiver left that

3060
02:32:39,000 --> 02:32:41,720
Speaker 1: would go in this range? People? There are a lot

3061
02:32:41,760 --> 02:32:45,520
Speaker 1: of people from verse first. Yeah, I just to me

3062
02:32:45,600 --> 02:32:47,800
Speaker 1: because like I saying, I was, I was. I didn't

3063
02:32:47,840 --> 02:32:50,879
Speaker 1: think like with Troit giving up all that to go up,

3064
02:32:51,360 --> 02:32:53,320
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like it was for that quarterback.

3065
02:32:53,720 --> 02:32:55,160
Speaker 1: You know, I kind of felt like that that they

3066
02:32:55,200 --> 02:32:57,360
Speaker 1: were not willing to wait till thirty two to get

3067
02:32:57,400 --> 02:32:59,680
Speaker 1: to try and get that guy. So that's why. But

3068
02:33:00,240 --> 02:33:02,440
Speaker 1: Jamison William's going up and getting that pick. I mean,

3069
02:33:02,480 --> 02:33:04,480
Speaker 1: he's my number one wide receiver on the board. There.

3070
02:33:04,600 --> 02:33:07,760
Speaker 1: Their their top trade is ludicrous speed. I don't think

3071
02:33:07,800 --> 02:33:11,320
Speaker 1: I've seen that before. Ludicrous. I mean, it's next level,

3072
02:33:11,840 --> 02:33:14,040
Speaker 1: it really is. He does so many things well on

3073
02:33:14,120 --> 02:33:17,160
Speaker 1: a football field, it's gonna be tough to to see him.

3074
02:33:17,920 --> 02:33:21,480
Speaker 1: It was tough to see a non quarterback go here, Brian.

3075
02:33:21,520 --> 02:33:24,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he was as confident as anybody was right

3076
02:33:24,280 --> 02:33:25,800
Speaker 1: there with you. I thought this was going to be

3077
02:33:25,840 --> 02:33:28,000
Speaker 1: either pick it or Willis because of the way they

3078
02:33:28,040 --> 02:33:30,920
Speaker 1: went up and jumped up to make the selection at twelve.

3079
02:33:31,280 --> 02:33:33,480
Speaker 1: But the fact that it's it is Williams shows just

3080
02:33:33,680 --> 02:33:36,480
Speaker 1: how highly they regarded Let's focus on the enemy. Now,

3081
02:33:36,800 --> 02:33:39,520
Speaker 1: Why is Philadelphia on the clock? Why did they move

3082
02:33:39,600 --> 02:33:42,119
Speaker 1: to get here? How he loves himself a deal, That's why.

3083
02:33:42,680 --> 02:33:45,480
Speaker 1: That's you knew, like from the very jump, when when

3084
02:33:45,520 --> 02:33:49,039
Speaker 1: the Eagles had three first round picks, you knew they

3085
02:33:49,080 --> 02:33:51,040
Speaker 1: weren't making them all that's never gonna have. This is

3086
02:33:51,080 --> 02:33:53,160
Speaker 1: an even trade. By the way, this one comes out

3087
02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:58,280
Speaker 1: pretty even because Philadelphia has given up fifteen UM one

3088
02:33:58,560 --> 02:34:01,760
Speaker 1: twenty four, one sixty two, one sixty six just to

3089
02:34:01,840 --> 02:34:04,560
Speaker 1: go up two spots. But those picks, the difference totals

3090
02:34:04,640 --> 02:34:06,280
Speaker 1: up to ninety six, and there was one hundred point

3091
02:34:06,280 --> 02:34:08,880
Speaker 1: gap there between fifteen and thirteen. Let's get some names

3092
02:34:08,920 --> 02:34:11,520
Speaker 1: out there, fellas. What are we looking at? Bobby Man

3093
02:34:11,600 --> 02:34:14,240
Speaker 1: I burks, I guess I don't. I don't know what

3094
02:34:14,360 --> 02:34:18,080
Speaker 1: they're going up for. Kyle Hamilton, maybe Hamilton. Maybe they

3095
02:34:18,160 --> 02:34:20,480
Speaker 1: like Kyle Hamilton. Are they trying to jump Baltimore? Do

3096
02:34:20,560 --> 02:34:22,480
Speaker 1: they like Jordan Davis? About to say this might be

3097
02:34:22,600 --> 02:34:24,720
Speaker 1: for Jordan Davis. You're right about that. I was about

3098
02:34:24,760 --> 02:34:27,280
Speaker 1: to say that. And if they lose Jordan Davis, does

3099
02:34:27,320 --> 02:34:30,080
Speaker 1: Baltimore want to bail out? Does Dallas call m it'd

3100
02:34:30,120 --> 02:34:33,720
Speaker 1: be funny. This was to replace Jalen Hurts. So the

3101
02:34:34,280 --> 02:34:38,039
Speaker 1: fifteenth pick now belongs to the Houston Texans. Yeas we're

3102
02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:41,920
Speaker 1: talking about all right, So the Eagles are on the clock. Uh,

3103
02:34:42,000 --> 02:34:44,520
Speaker 1: they look like they won the Carson Wentz deal. They're

3104
02:34:44,560 --> 02:34:46,959
Speaker 1: they're they're they're got to be going for Jordan Davis here.

3105
02:34:47,240 --> 02:34:49,760
Speaker 1: They're they're get ready for that. I think this is

3106
02:34:49,800 --> 02:34:55,720
Speaker 1: where everybody's been talking about Baltimore taking this mammoth defensive tackle. Yeah.

3107
02:34:55,959 --> 02:34:59,360
Speaker 1: And and and if you follow guys on our sister

3108
02:34:59,480 --> 02:35:02,480
Speaker 1: station b P there in Philadelphia, they were they were

3109
02:35:02,560 --> 02:35:05,640
Speaker 1: talking about the perfect pick, the perfect pick, you know,

3110
02:35:05,680 --> 02:35:07,640
Speaker 1: when they were starting to talk about their guys, Jordan

3111
02:35:07,720 --> 02:35:09,480
Speaker 1: Davis was a guy that they were trying to talk

3112
02:35:09,520 --> 02:35:12,920
Speaker 1: about there, So tell us about him. What's not to

3113
02:35:12,959 --> 02:35:15,480
Speaker 1: say about this guy? I mean, he is mammoth, you know,

3114
02:35:15,600 --> 02:35:17,760
Speaker 1: and and he's a monster. Yeah. And it's just the

3115
02:35:17,920 --> 02:35:20,480
Speaker 1: rare ability, you know, it's that it's just that, you know,

3116
02:35:20,520 --> 02:35:22,280
Speaker 1: we talk about these guys that are so big and

3117
02:35:22,360 --> 02:35:25,240
Speaker 1: how will they move? And he's active and he's I mean,

3118
02:35:25,360 --> 02:35:27,360
Speaker 1: and I was talking to scouts about him the other day.

3119
02:35:27,760 --> 02:35:29,720
Speaker 1: It's not that he takes up two blockers, he takes

3120
02:35:29,800 --> 02:35:31,920
Speaker 1: up three. You know. That's the kind of thing that

3121
02:35:32,000 --> 02:35:34,320
Speaker 1: you have to do with. I mean, it's hard to

3122
02:35:34,520 --> 02:35:38,600
Speaker 1: get him off his spot because he's that big. What

3123
02:35:38,720 --> 02:35:41,720
Speaker 1: are the Knox against him to cause him to come

3124
02:35:41,800 --> 02:35:43,760
Speaker 1: here at thirteen when some people just think he's a

3125
02:35:43,959 --> 02:35:47,000
Speaker 1: top five talent. He very well could be a top

3126
02:35:47,080 --> 02:35:50,000
Speaker 1: five player in the draft. It's the factor of at Georgia,

3127
02:35:50,280 --> 02:35:53,040
Speaker 1: he was only utilized in two down situations. He did

3128
02:35:53,120 --> 02:35:57,840
Speaker 1: not play as at times he Yeah, DeVante Wyatt was

3129
02:35:57,959 --> 02:36:00,440
Speaker 1: just as successful from a defensive tackles and point at

3130
02:36:00,480 --> 02:36:04,040
Speaker 1: times on that defense. It was basically the communication or

3131
02:36:04,120 --> 02:36:08,080
Speaker 1: excuse me, the conflict of whether or not it was

3132
02:36:08,160 --> 02:36:10,520
Speaker 1: because the guys around him were so good or because

3133
02:36:10,560 --> 02:36:13,280
Speaker 1: he was so good. I certainly think Jordan Davis is

3134
02:36:13,320 --> 02:36:15,680
Speaker 1: a phenomenal player, and I think he should be a

3135
02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:17,960
Speaker 1: top ten pick, or at least has top ten talent

3136
02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:21,480
Speaker 1: in this draft. He's gonna go exceptionally high because of

3137
02:36:21,520 --> 02:36:23,680
Speaker 1: his traits. I don't think teams really care about the

3138
02:36:23,760 --> 02:36:25,600
Speaker 1: fact that he was only used in two downs. Okay,

3139
02:36:26,080 --> 02:36:28,800
Speaker 1: let's be honest too about football. We see this stage

3140
02:36:28,800 --> 02:36:30,840
Speaker 1: and I got in a discussion with people about this,

3141
02:36:30,920 --> 02:36:33,360
Speaker 1: about oh, only we're gonna play thirty five the snaps

3142
02:36:33,560 --> 02:36:36,280
Speaker 1: the nickel, and someone goes, well, well, how about how

3143
02:36:36,280 --> 02:36:39,720
Speaker 1: many snaps his tank playing a game forty forty five fifty,

3144
02:36:39,800 --> 02:36:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean, how many snaps all these defensive linemen. But

3145
02:36:42,800 --> 02:36:45,240
Speaker 1: you talk about if you're playing nickel, maybe this guy's

3146
02:36:45,280 --> 02:36:48,720
Speaker 1: coming off the field, but the other times that he plays,

3147
02:36:48,879 --> 02:36:50,720
Speaker 1: you're not going to run the ball on these guys.

3148
02:36:51,240 --> 02:36:53,200
Speaker 1: You know. That's the thing about it is and there's

3149
02:36:53,480 --> 02:36:56,320
Speaker 1: everybody plays in a rotating system. Now, yeah, you know,

3150
02:36:56,480 --> 02:36:59,000
Speaker 1: so drafted a guy like this, the one technique makes

3151
02:36:59,000 --> 02:37:02,000
Speaker 1: a lot of sense if they if they pick him.

3152
02:37:02,200 --> 02:37:04,480
Speaker 1: Been a lot to talk about Fletcher Cox leaving there,

3153
02:37:05,040 --> 02:37:08,560
Speaker 1: multiple rumors, so and and Howie Roseman is obsessed with

3154
02:37:08,760 --> 02:37:12,400
Speaker 1: addressing the defensive line. I mean Fletcher Cox, Derek Barnett,

3155
02:37:12,640 --> 02:37:16,640
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis, if he's the pick um Graham going way back,

3156
02:37:17,120 --> 02:37:20,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Graham. I mean, they they throw resources at their

3157
02:37:20,200 --> 02:37:22,120
Speaker 1: defensive line all the time. I was hoping they go

3158
02:37:22,240 --> 02:37:27,879
Speaker 1: receiver again again because they keep missing there. But maybe Howie,

3159
02:37:28,280 --> 02:37:31,439
Speaker 1: uh the Belichick of the NFC in terms of evaluating

3160
02:37:31,480 --> 02:37:33,640
Speaker 1: wideouts is like, no, let's go with the big fellow

3161
02:37:33,879 --> 02:37:36,520
Speaker 1: and brought us is right about all these rumors that right,

3162
02:37:36,640 --> 02:37:40,480
Speaker 1: the pick that you always want always seems to fall

3163
02:37:40,600 --> 02:37:43,280
Speaker 1: like to the Ravens, it's like, oh are you serious,

3164
02:37:43,400 --> 02:37:46,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Every year. Actually that's a wonderful point. Sean,

3165
02:37:46,560 --> 02:37:48,960
Speaker 1: Like if Jordan Davis is the play is the pick.

3166
02:37:49,480 --> 02:37:53,600
Speaker 1: Thank god, somebody finally got in front of the bald range.

3167
02:37:54,120 --> 02:37:56,960
Speaker 1: It's like, it's like, I remember, remember I Todd he

3168
02:37:57,600 --> 02:38:01,600
Speaker 1: Todd heat the Ravens win the Super Bowl and they're like,

3169
02:38:01,600 --> 02:38:03,240
Speaker 1: what do they need? They need a tight end? The

3170
02:38:03,400 --> 02:38:05,400
Speaker 1: best damn tight end goes all the way down to

3171
02:38:05,480 --> 02:38:08,879
Speaker 1: thirty two. Yeah, and they dropped him every freaking year,

3172
02:38:09,040 --> 02:38:12,480
Speaker 1: every year. And how he's like enough enough of this.

3173
02:38:12,680 --> 02:38:14,680
Speaker 1: You know, I'm interested though with with you know, they

3174
02:38:14,760 --> 02:38:18,080
Speaker 1: got Hardgrave there too. I mean, does does Hardgrave? Is

3175
02:38:18,120 --> 02:38:20,800
Speaker 1: that like a you know, with Javin Hargrave? Does that A?

3176
02:38:21,200 --> 02:38:23,120
Speaker 1: Is that? Do you move him to three? Is that a?

3177
02:38:23,920 --> 02:38:25,720
Speaker 1: Is he a one? What is I mean? If you

3178
02:38:25,840 --> 02:38:28,800
Speaker 1: draft this guy? We're three now? They also really like

3179
02:38:29,240 --> 02:38:31,720
Speaker 1: as a future at three technique, they really like Milton Williams.

3180
02:38:31,800 --> 02:38:35,720
Speaker 1: Milton Williams Yeah, and a third round pick for those guys. Yeah.

3181
02:38:35,840 --> 02:38:38,080
Speaker 1: So the Eagles, I mean, I think we can all agree,

3182
02:38:38,440 --> 02:38:41,680
Speaker 1: but grudgingly, they had a very nice season, was supposed

3183
02:38:41,680 --> 02:38:43,960
Speaker 1: to be, you know, a year in which many people

3184
02:38:44,000 --> 02:38:45,880
Speaker 1: had them fourth place in the NFC East. This is

3185
02:38:45,920 --> 02:38:51,080
Speaker 1: a judgment year for Jalen Hurts. Uh, and they're always aggressive,

3186
02:38:51,080 --> 02:38:53,120
Speaker 1: and they're being aggressive. They got their one for next

3187
02:38:53,200 --> 02:38:55,560
Speaker 1: year when these quarterbacks, so they got multiple picks, and

3188
02:38:55,879 --> 02:38:57,760
Speaker 1: so if they don't like what Hurts is doing, then

3189
02:38:58,080 --> 02:39:00,560
Speaker 1: they could draft a quarterback. It's funny. And look, I

3190
02:39:00,680 --> 02:39:02,959
Speaker 1: know I know where we are, I know who We're

3191
02:39:03,160 --> 02:39:06,360
Speaker 1: a Cowboys station. But like I've always I admire the

3192
02:39:06,400 --> 02:39:08,320
Speaker 1: way the Eagles run their front office, and I think

3193
02:39:08,360 --> 02:39:11,800
Speaker 1: it's interesting. Like it seems like Eagles fans have been

3194
02:39:11,879 --> 02:39:14,840
Speaker 1: mad at Howie in recent years because that twenty seventeen

3195
02:39:14,879 --> 02:39:18,600
Speaker 1: team has fallen apart. But hatible name. I mean, sure,

3196
02:39:18,680 --> 02:39:21,080
Speaker 1: how Yeah, you know you can pick at that a lot.

3197
02:39:21,240 --> 02:39:24,640
Speaker 1: I just I'll take his track record throw in a

3198
02:39:24,680 --> 02:39:26,360
Speaker 1: super Bowl on top of it. I think they do

3199
02:39:26,440 --> 02:39:29,440
Speaker 1: a damn good job of keeping their roster maintained. All right,

3200
02:39:29,560 --> 02:39:32,480
Speaker 1: So the Eagles are on the clock, they pick is in.

3201
02:39:33,400 --> 02:39:35,400
Speaker 1: We got the Eagles and the Ravens picks are and

3202
02:39:35,440 --> 02:39:37,520
Speaker 1: apparently we're just waiting for TV to catch up. Of

3203
02:39:37,600 --> 02:39:40,440
Speaker 1: course we're just sitting around now there. Texans are on

3204
02:39:40,480 --> 02:39:42,160
Speaker 1: the clock at fifteen. We've got two picks in that

3205
02:39:42,240 --> 02:39:44,560
Speaker 1: are just outstanding that we're waiting for. All Right, let's

3206
02:39:44,600 --> 02:39:48,920
Speaker 1: go to the commissioner as he has some company on stage,

3207
02:39:49,400 --> 02:39:52,240
Speaker 1: and Roger Goodell is going to make the selection. Brian

3208
02:39:52,320 --> 02:39:56,360
Speaker 1: brought us be quiet, i'p here at the podium on

3209
02:39:56,440 --> 02:40:00,600
Speaker 1: one O five three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

3210
02:40:00,840 --> 02:40:03,360
Speaker 1: This is a radio technique of dragging it out to

3211
02:40:03,600 --> 02:40:09,360
Speaker 1: Roger talks hit it. Joining me for the Eagles pick

3212
02:40:09,440 --> 02:40:13,680
Speaker 1: are six high school tackle and flag football captains from

3213
02:40:13,720 --> 02:40:26,119
Speaker 1: teams across Clark County in Las Vegas. They truly exemplified

3214
02:40:26,240 --> 02:40:32,000
Speaker 1: the NFL's values of respect, integrity, resiliency, and responsibility to

3215
02:40:32,080 --> 02:40:35,679
Speaker 1: their teams. Congratulations to all of you on your accomplishments

3216
02:40:35,720 --> 02:40:41,040
Speaker 1: of good luck on the upcoming season. Welcome. The Houston

3217
02:40:41,160 --> 02:40:45,600
Speaker 1: Texas have traded the thirteenth pick to the Philadelphia Eagles.

3218
02:40:47,680 --> 02:40:51,840
Speaker 1: We're the thirteenth pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft.

3219
02:40:52,800 --> 02:40:57,240
Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles select Jordan Davis. There we go, defensive

3220
02:40:57,320 --> 02:41:02,760
Speaker 1: tackle Georgia. Good guys, well done. Let's come back to

3221
02:41:02,840 --> 02:41:05,360
Speaker 1: talk about that and we'll set you up for the

3222
02:41:05,560 --> 02:41:07,480
Speaker 1: rest of the board. Is We've had a lot of

3223
02:41:07,560 --> 02:41:11,160
Speaker 1: movement here in the last few selections, so it's gonna

3224
02:41:11,200 --> 02:41:14,200
Speaker 1: be Baltimore on the clock, followed by the Texans and

3225
02:41:14,320 --> 02:41:17,080
Speaker 1: then the Commanders who moved down. This is the twenty

3226
02:41:17,200 --> 02:41:21,120
Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Draft. It just started getting fun. I'm

3227
02:41:21,120 --> 02:41:22,840
Speaker 1: one O five through the fan and the Dallas Cowboys

3228
02:41:22,879 --> 02:41:29,840
Speaker 1: Readio network. So now that Jordan Davis is off the board,

3229
02:41:29,879 --> 02:41:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm gonna circle right back to Baltimore.

3230
02:41:32,600 --> 02:41:34,880
Speaker 1: And we were just talking about how, oh, finally somebody

3231
02:41:35,200 --> 02:41:38,240
Speaker 1: ends the reign of terror, Baltimore making great picks, and

3232
02:41:38,280 --> 02:41:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my board and there's one red, blinking,

3233
02:41:41,640 --> 02:41:44,480
Speaker 1: glaring light in Kyle Hamilton's sitting on the board here

3234
02:41:44,840 --> 02:41:48,800
Speaker 1: for Baltimore at fourteen. If they pick Kyle Hamilton's, I

3235
02:41:48,840 --> 02:41:51,160
Speaker 1: feel like that ragin of terror just continues. That's a

3236
02:41:51,240 --> 02:41:55,000
Speaker 1: top five player in this draft point and he is

3237
02:41:55,320 --> 02:41:58,120
Speaker 1: still sitting here at fourteen. Maybe it may not be

3238
02:41:58,160 --> 02:41:59,960
Speaker 1: the reign of terror of Jordan Davis, which, by the way,

3239
02:42:00,560 --> 02:42:02,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are not gonna have to see not only

3240
02:42:02,800 --> 02:42:05,040
Speaker 1: Cabon Thibodeau twice a year, but now they're gonna have

3241
02:42:05,080 --> 02:42:07,600
Speaker 1: to see Jordan Davis twice a year on the opposite side.

3242
02:42:08,120 --> 02:42:09,720
Speaker 1: Do you agree with that, Brian? This would be a

3243
02:42:09,800 --> 02:42:12,880
Speaker 1: heck of a fortune of fall. Yeah, I really. You know,

3244
02:42:13,000 --> 02:42:16,440
Speaker 1: when you when you start to talk about, uh, you know,

3245
02:42:17,160 --> 02:42:19,440
Speaker 1: what is this guy wearing? Is he wearing the red

3246
02:42:19,560 --> 02:42:22,960
Speaker 1: tape around the jersey's got a little sash. It's like

3247
02:42:23,280 --> 02:42:25,920
Speaker 1: he's just sash colors. Yeah, he's he's got it. It's

3248
02:42:25,959 --> 02:42:29,840
Speaker 1: like a it looks like a soccer jersey. It's kind

3249
02:42:29,840 --> 02:42:32,200
Speaker 1: of an interesting look. But yeah, I'll say this though,

3250
02:42:32,480 --> 02:42:37,960
Speaker 1: the Ravens, they usually don't get blindsided by stuff. And

3251
02:42:38,400 --> 02:42:40,800
Speaker 1: you know, and I think this is what happens when

3252
02:42:41,400 --> 02:42:45,800
Speaker 1: there's such coverage of the NFL draft and there's so

3253
02:42:45,959 --> 02:42:49,680
Speaker 1: many mock drafts now, and there's so many people talking,

3254
02:42:49,760 --> 02:42:52,360
Speaker 1: and there's so much pressure, like, hey, so and so

3255
02:42:52,560 --> 02:42:54,320
Speaker 1: told me this, so and so. I mean, look what

3256
02:42:54,400 --> 02:42:56,920
Speaker 1: we've done here the last month or so. I mean,

3257
02:42:56,959 --> 02:42:58,720
Speaker 1: look what we've done with the draft show and things

3258
02:42:58,800 --> 02:43:01,560
Speaker 1: like that. I kind of feel like though that there

3259
02:43:01,760 --> 02:43:03,320
Speaker 1: used to be a time where teams were kind of

3260
02:43:03,440 --> 02:43:06,120
Speaker 1: be able to not telegraph stuff enough, you know, they

3261
02:43:06,240 --> 02:43:09,360
Speaker 1: like they could keep things under wrap. Think at you guys,

3262
02:43:09,520 --> 02:43:11,840
Speaker 1: basically I'm not kissing girls for your end, but you're

3263
02:43:11,879 --> 02:43:15,000
Speaker 1: basically calling the picks and predicting it. Imagine working for

3264
02:43:15,080 --> 02:43:17,200
Speaker 1: a team. Well, that's the thing about it is that

3265
02:43:17,360 --> 02:43:19,080
Speaker 1: you go in when you're doing these mock drafts to

3266
02:43:19,200 --> 02:43:22,400
Speaker 1: the team the benefits. You know, back in the day,

3267
02:43:22,640 --> 02:43:25,160
Speaker 1: we didn't have the benefit of like, oh, well, Daniel

3268
02:43:25,240 --> 02:43:27,640
Speaker 1: Jeremiah is doing a mock draft, Bobby Belt's doing a

3269
02:43:27,720 --> 02:43:30,600
Speaker 1: mock draft. Oh Bucky Brooks is doing a So you

3270
02:43:30,959 --> 02:43:33,440
Speaker 1: you almost had to do it yourself. And now and

3271
02:43:33,520 --> 02:43:35,320
Speaker 1: when you go in and you're starting to study about

3272
02:43:35,360 --> 02:43:38,800
Speaker 1: these teams, you're kind of like going, oh, well, what

3273
02:43:39,040 --> 02:43:41,080
Speaker 1: is there? What is their beat? Writers are saying? What

3274
02:43:41,200 --> 02:43:44,160
Speaker 1: are fans saying about? And you could start projecting if

3275
02:43:44,200 --> 02:43:47,760
Speaker 1: the names keep showing up enough, then, like, I think

3276
02:43:47,840 --> 02:43:50,280
Speaker 1: how in them had an idea that Baltimore was a

3277
02:43:50,360 --> 02:43:54,200
Speaker 1: team that was really looked at. George Baltimore doesn't say

3278
02:43:54,360 --> 02:43:58,440
Speaker 1: anything right, Baltimore is not a leaking team. But all

3279
02:43:58,440 --> 02:44:00,320
Speaker 1: of a sudden, there just was enough up of a

3280
02:44:00,440 --> 02:44:04,760
Speaker 1: ground swell that people thought perfect fit, perfect fit in

3281
02:44:04,879 --> 02:44:08,040
Speaker 1: Philadelphia's like, hell with that, let's go ahead of them. Yeah,

3282
02:44:08,240 --> 02:44:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, And so I kind of feel like though

3283
02:44:11,080 --> 02:44:15,560
Speaker 1: that the Ravens, I don't know if they got blindsided,

3284
02:44:15,600 --> 02:44:18,120
Speaker 1: but they kind of had an idea that potentially something

3285
02:44:18,240 --> 02:44:19,920
Speaker 1: like this was gonna happen. And the Ravens are one

3286
02:44:19,959 --> 02:44:22,400
Speaker 1: of these teams. I mean you covered him for a while.

3287
02:44:22,400 --> 02:44:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean you're from there. They just sitting there and

3288
02:44:25,200 --> 02:44:27,360
Speaker 1: make the pick. Yeah, they're not gonna they're not gonna

3289
02:44:27,400 --> 02:44:30,039
Speaker 1: freak out, They're not gonna panic. I know Eric da

3290
02:44:30,120 --> 02:44:32,520
Speaker 1: Costa who took over for Ozzie and he was a

3291
02:44:32,840 --> 02:44:35,760
Speaker 1: Ozzie's protege, and they'll just say, all right, we'll just

3292
02:44:35,879 --> 02:44:37,600
Speaker 1: pick the next player. We get the homework, we'll take

3293
02:44:37,600 --> 02:44:39,480
Speaker 1: the next one. Well. And also going on the back

3294
02:44:39,600 --> 02:44:43,960
Speaker 1: end of what Brian saying here, seeing these scenarios working

3295
02:44:44,000 --> 02:44:45,520
Speaker 1: out in the way that it's worked out right now,

3296
02:44:46,160 --> 02:44:49,360
Speaker 1: Bobby came into today and credit to Bobby saying that

3297
02:44:49,520 --> 02:44:51,680
Speaker 1: his gut feeling was that the Cowboys would trade up

3298
02:44:51,720 --> 02:44:54,720
Speaker 1: and go get Trevor Penning. If right now at fourteen,

3299
02:44:55,120 --> 02:44:57,640
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton indeed is the pick, and I'm once again

3300
02:44:57,640 --> 02:44:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at anything. I've got my own board

3301
02:44:59,640 --> 02:45:01,959
Speaker 1: in front of I mean, if Kyle Hamilton's the pig,

3302
02:45:02,400 --> 02:45:05,400
Speaker 1: then we go to fifteen, the Houston Texans are sitting there,

3303
02:45:05,480 --> 02:45:08,280
Speaker 1: then it's the Commanders, then it's the Chargers in fifteen,

3304
02:45:08,320 --> 02:45:11,160
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen. Yeah, that could be a target area where

3305
02:45:11,200 --> 02:45:12,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys don't have to give up a ton. They

3306
02:45:13,000 --> 02:45:15,440
Speaker 1: could still keep their second round pick and still go

3307
02:45:15,600 --> 02:45:17,520
Speaker 1: up and get a guy like Trevor Penning who's staying

3308
02:45:17,560 --> 02:45:19,920
Speaker 1: on the board through the mid teens. Here. Yeah, I

3309
02:45:20,040 --> 02:45:22,280
Speaker 1: think that the mind field again you're gonna have to

3310
02:45:22,400 --> 02:45:26,080
Speaker 1: walk is that Chargers at seventeen. You know, I mean

3311
02:45:26,200 --> 02:45:28,120
Speaker 1: we we were talking about who are the players that

3312
02:45:28,800 --> 02:45:30,920
Speaker 1: like with Zion Johnson, what are the what are the

3313
02:45:31,000 --> 02:45:33,920
Speaker 1: teams if you're interested in Zion Johnson, I'm here in

3314
02:45:34,000 --> 02:45:37,480
Speaker 1: offensive lineman at the Chargers. You know very well what

3315
02:45:37,680 --> 02:45:40,960
Speaker 1: New Orleans right there, right at at nineteen is that

3316
02:45:41,160 --> 02:45:43,520
Speaker 1: is that it's still got is that still their picks?

3317
02:45:44,080 --> 02:45:46,600
Speaker 1: You know? New Orleans could use an offensive tackle right there.

3318
02:45:46,840 --> 02:45:49,160
Speaker 1: You know we were mentioned in that, you know, so

3319
02:45:49,440 --> 02:45:52,240
Speaker 1: to me, I kind of feel like though that you

3320
02:45:52,320 --> 02:45:54,800
Speaker 1: know that you're gonna have to deal with New England

3321
02:45:54,959 --> 02:45:56,840
Speaker 1: is another one that you're gonna have to do it. See.

3322
02:45:56,879 --> 02:46:00,200
Speaker 1: See there's there's these tackles, these offensive technically if you're

3323
02:46:00,200 --> 02:46:01,800
Speaker 1: thinking about trying to get for Penny you might have

3324
02:46:01,920 --> 02:46:04,320
Speaker 1: to go up, like you know, you're gonna have to

3325
02:46:04,440 --> 02:46:08,040
Speaker 1: maybe find a way to get up to head of

3326
02:46:08,080 --> 02:46:11,680
Speaker 1: the Chargers if you can there with Washington on the

3327
02:46:11,720 --> 02:46:14,960
Speaker 1: clock there, all right, let's get ready with the Ravens

3328
02:46:15,360 --> 02:46:21,119
Speaker 1: on the clock, followed by the Texans and Washington. Nobody

3329
02:46:21,360 --> 02:46:24,280
Speaker 1: paid me or asked me to say this, but pretty good.

3330
02:46:25,959 --> 02:46:29,000
Speaker 1: Do we need to take some in there? Yeah? Probably

3331
02:46:31,040 --> 02:46:33,840
Speaker 1: Sean Tree. Brian brought us David Helm and Kyle Yeomans

3332
02:46:33,879 --> 02:46:38,440
Speaker 1: and our Cowboys insider Bobby Belt. Things getting very interesting

3333
02:46:38,560 --> 02:46:41,760
Speaker 1: with New Orleans moving. The Philadelphia Eagles just jumped to

3334
02:46:41,840 --> 02:46:45,920
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. We think to select the monster Jordan Davis,

3335
02:46:45,959 --> 02:46:48,920
Speaker 1: and now Baltimore's pick his in. Here's Roger Goodell at

3336
02:46:48,959 --> 02:46:52,960
Speaker 1: the podium and number fourteen. In the twenty twenty two

3337
02:46:53,320 --> 02:47:01,360
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select Kyle Hamilton, defensive Notre Dame.

3338
02:47:01,840 --> 02:47:05,119
Speaker 1: All right, good call Kyle Yeoman's. Just when we're laughing

3339
02:47:05,160 --> 02:47:08,240
Speaker 1: at Baltimore, they're like, okay, we'll take a player that

3340
02:47:08,400 --> 02:47:11,000
Speaker 1: some had in the top six or seven. Gosh, that's

3341
02:47:11,000 --> 02:47:14,039
Speaker 1: such a Baltimore pig. Yeah, they do. They do things

3342
02:47:14,080 --> 02:47:16,240
Speaker 1: too well. Up there to be thrown off too hard

3343
02:47:16,280 --> 02:47:19,320
Speaker 1: by Jordan Davis. Oh Man, Jordan Davis is off the board.

3344
02:47:19,400 --> 02:47:21,480
Speaker 1: Let's go get the long range. He defensive back that

3345
02:47:21,600 --> 02:47:24,200
Speaker 1: takes snaps all over the field. He has that high motor.

3346
02:47:24,280 --> 02:47:28,080
Speaker 1: He has the ability to play all around the entire defense.

3347
02:47:28,160 --> 02:47:29,520
Speaker 1: He can play in the box, he can play in

3348
02:47:29,560 --> 02:47:32,039
Speaker 1: the deep third, plays in the slot. He's a coverage

3349
02:47:32,080 --> 02:47:35,320
Speaker 1: guy at times, Brian, and you mentioned earlier there's some

3350
02:47:35,920 --> 02:47:39,160
Speaker 1: con in terms of his change of direction, maybe a

3351
02:47:39,240 --> 02:47:41,440
Speaker 1: step in the bucket from time to time, but ultimately

3352
02:47:41,920 --> 02:47:45,720
Speaker 1: this is the most rangey and athletically talented corner or

3353
02:47:45,760 --> 02:47:48,200
Speaker 1: excuse me, safety that we've seen him a couple of years. Yeah,

3354
02:47:48,280 --> 02:47:51,160
Speaker 1: and you know, it's funny because some of these you

3355
02:47:51,200 --> 02:47:53,600
Speaker 1: can literally watch him play in the slot. And I

3356
02:47:53,640 --> 02:47:55,880
Speaker 1: don't know if I really want him to cover in

3357
02:47:55,959 --> 02:47:59,240
Speaker 1: the slot all the time, but as a changeup. But

3358
02:47:59,360 --> 02:48:02,080
Speaker 1: what's interesting also two is the Baltimore Ravens with a

3359
02:48:02,120 --> 02:48:05,240
Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator there, Wink Martindale no longer. Now Wink

3360
02:48:05,400 --> 02:48:08,560
Speaker 1: is at the Giants, You're gonna have to worry about him. So, yeah,

3361
02:48:08,640 --> 02:48:11,160
Speaker 1: this is a team that always we talk about it

3362
02:48:11,200 --> 02:48:13,600
Speaker 1: at the drafts the way they're able to. They don't

3363
02:48:13,640 --> 02:48:16,240
Speaker 1: get faced by that who's the next best defensive player

3364
02:48:16,320 --> 02:48:19,000
Speaker 1: on their board? That's when the tags and stuff are,

3365
02:48:19,160 --> 02:48:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, taken down. And Kyle Hamilton clearly is on

3366
02:48:22,520 --> 02:48:24,800
Speaker 1: my board. He was the eleventh best player, so kind

3367
02:48:24,840 --> 02:48:26,880
Speaker 1: of right where he I think he was going to

3368
02:48:26,920 --> 02:48:31,000
Speaker 1: be taken. Twenty three no longer belongs to the Arizona Cardinals.

3369
02:48:31,879 --> 02:48:34,960
Speaker 1: Okay they have. The Ravens have traded Hollywood brown and

3370
02:48:35,120 --> 02:48:38,520
Speaker 1: pick number one hundred twenty three. Okay, so we're getting wild,

3371
02:48:39,000 --> 02:48:41,560
Speaker 1: now we are. We're getting wild here. Hollywood just went

3372
02:48:41,680 --> 02:48:45,400
Speaker 1: where to the Cardinals? Of the Cardinals? Whoa? So the

3373
02:48:45,520 --> 02:48:47,240
Speaker 1: Ravens need a receiver? And are they gonn Let's get

3374
02:48:47,240 --> 02:48:49,200
Speaker 1: ahead of Dallas for Burks. I don't know, but the

3375
02:48:49,280 --> 02:48:52,199
Speaker 1: Cardinals just solved. If they were going to get ahead

3376
02:48:52,200 --> 02:48:53,840
Speaker 1: of somebody, you would think it would be the Packers

3377
02:48:53,879 --> 02:48:57,120
Speaker 1: because there's been smoke there about Burks as well. Wow,

3378
02:48:57,640 --> 02:49:00,760
Speaker 1: so the Texans are on the clock. Washington is then

3379
02:49:00,840 --> 02:49:04,800
Speaker 1: picking next at number sixteen. That it's already in for Houston.

3380
02:49:05,280 --> 02:49:09,640
Speaker 1: Arizona has gone from the first round. Now yep, so

3381
02:49:09,879 --> 02:49:14,200
Speaker 1: that take that Seger So that is why do you

3382
02:49:14,280 --> 02:49:16,200
Speaker 1: say that, because Peter Scheger's got in the pick right

3383
02:49:16,240 --> 02:49:18,040
Speaker 1: four years in a row he was, he was, that's

3384
02:49:18,240 --> 02:49:19,840
Speaker 1: called the trade up. Yeah he didn't, but that's what

3385
02:49:19,920 --> 02:49:22,360
Speaker 1: you're worried about because he two years. I mean, the

3386
02:49:22,480 --> 02:49:25,800
Speaker 1: last two last mock drafts were Zion Johnson. You know,

3387
02:49:26,120 --> 02:49:28,360
Speaker 1: this thing is kind of I think is actually, you know,

3388
02:49:28,440 --> 02:49:30,760
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, I know there's some teams that

3389
02:49:30,920 --> 02:49:33,040
Speaker 1: need some of these offensive linemen and stuff like that,

3390
02:49:33,280 --> 02:49:35,879
Speaker 1: but you like the way it's kind of lining up

3391
02:49:35,920 --> 02:49:38,000
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys right now. I think I'm okay with

3392
02:49:38,080 --> 02:49:40,160
Speaker 1: what's what's what's going on right now. I'm glad to

3393
02:49:40,240 --> 02:49:43,160
Speaker 1: get Arizona out of the way, you know, I really am.

3394
02:49:43,520 --> 02:49:45,320
Speaker 1: I think that was a team if you're interested in

3395
02:49:45,480 --> 02:49:48,080
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson, that was a team I kind of because

3396
02:49:48,120 --> 02:49:51,280
Speaker 1: again Peter Schreeger, Bobby just mentioned the last four years

3397
02:49:51,400 --> 02:49:54,440
Speaker 1: he's nailed Arizona's mock and what do you do this

3398
02:49:54,600 --> 02:49:57,480
Speaker 1: first mock he picked Zion Johnson. Second mock, he picked

3399
02:49:57,560 --> 02:50:01,560
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson. So that was something plugged in. I mean absolutely.

3400
02:50:01,720 --> 02:50:04,119
Speaker 1: He was kind of the first nationally to talk about

3401
02:50:04,200 --> 02:50:07,959
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker going one. Yeah, and he is tight with McVeigh,

3402
02:50:08,040 --> 02:50:09,760
Speaker 1: so he's going to get the Rams pick as well

3403
02:50:10,760 --> 02:50:15,400
Speaker 1: well on Saturday at like five o'clock the fourth. I mean,

3404
02:50:15,440 --> 02:50:17,800
Speaker 1: you're not wrong. He will get it right. I'm just

3405
02:50:17,920 --> 02:50:21,480
Speaker 1: trying to think. I'm doing math here thinking. Okay, guys,

3406
02:50:21,600 --> 02:50:25,039
Speaker 1: we think the Cowboys, like Burke's is still there, Zion's

3407
02:50:25,080 --> 02:50:28,440
Speaker 1: still there, Green is still there, Penning is still there.

3408
02:50:29,640 --> 02:50:33,160
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Lloyd is still there. I'm at

3409
02:50:33,200 --> 02:50:35,600
Speaker 1: this point do they sit and they just go? Somebody

3410
02:50:35,640 --> 02:50:38,320
Speaker 1: will be there. I think they're going to. I really do.

3411
02:50:39,120 --> 02:50:41,240
Speaker 1: Depends on how hell ben't they are on getting an

3412
02:50:41,280 --> 02:50:43,720
Speaker 1: offensive line. Bobby first round. You've been really good about

3413
02:50:43,760 --> 02:50:47,560
Speaker 1: analyzing the ups and downs with the with the price

3414
02:50:47,720 --> 02:50:51,279
Speaker 1: to go up, Are we still in a good buyers market?

3415
02:50:51,320 --> 02:50:53,560
Speaker 1: Are we? Are we starting to flip this thing around?

3416
02:50:53,600 --> 02:50:55,039
Speaker 1: I mean it changes it a little bit just because

3417
02:50:55,080 --> 02:50:56,680
Speaker 1: you don't know, Like, Okay, what does Hollywood Brown w

3418
02:50:56,840 --> 02:50:59,080
Speaker 1: here we go with the Texans selection of fifteen? Okay,

3419
02:51:00,240 --> 02:51:06,920
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans select Kenyan Green. I'll tell you what.

3420
02:51:07,959 --> 02:51:11,440
Speaker 1: When we talked about we talked about this pre show,

3421
02:51:11,600 --> 02:51:15,400
Speaker 1: Lantzer line nailed this pick. Lanzer line if we were

3422
02:51:15,440 --> 02:51:19,520
Speaker 1: Texans connections. Yeah, the Texas connections up there. He nailed them. Houston,

3423
02:51:20,160 --> 02:51:23,280
Speaker 1: he nailed this pick. He and his mock draft, he

3424
02:51:23,400 --> 02:51:26,960
Speaker 1: had Kenyon Green going to the Houston to the Hut.

3425
02:51:27,080 --> 02:51:30,840
Speaker 1: Producer Troy Hughes, our producer tonight is heartbroken because this

3426
02:51:31,000 --> 02:51:33,760
Speaker 1: is the Texas a and m Aggie tell us about him.

3427
02:51:34,520 --> 02:51:37,440
Speaker 1: I think this is one of those picks that kind

3428
02:51:37,480 --> 02:51:39,920
Speaker 1: of puts your war room in gear if you're the Cowboys,

3429
02:51:39,959 --> 02:51:41,879
Speaker 1: because you didn't expect this to happen. There's no way

3430
02:51:42,040 --> 02:51:45,080
Speaker 1: outside of zerline, there's no way Kenyan Green was in

3431
02:51:45,120 --> 02:51:47,840
Speaker 1: the top fifteen from January on. He was going to

3432
02:51:47,920 --> 02:51:51,680
Speaker 1: fall to the to the twenty fours. The questions about

3433
02:51:51,720 --> 02:51:54,440
Speaker 1: the knee because of the injury, Yeah, I mean he's

3434
02:51:54,560 --> 02:51:57,680
Speaker 1: He's a fantastic football player. You talk about exceptional lower

3435
02:51:57,760 --> 02:52:01,120
Speaker 1: body strength. He plays with strong hands, doesn't let go,

3436
02:52:01,400 --> 02:52:03,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't necessarily let go of his blocks at all,

3437
02:52:03,640 --> 02:52:06,119
Speaker 1: and he did so against the best competition and all

3438
02:52:06,160 --> 02:52:07,880
Speaker 1: over the line of scrimmage for the Agge's in the

3439
02:52:08,040 --> 02:52:11,960
Speaker 1: SEC throughout his career. He does have the occasional misstep

3440
02:52:12,040 --> 02:52:14,879
Speaker 1: from time to time, as does any lineman that plays

3441
02:52:14,879 --> 02:52:18,000
Speaker 1: against that sort of competition, but he's usually able to recover,

3442
02:52:18,400 --> 02:52:20,400
Speaker 1: and he's able to move on the run as well.

3443
02:52:20,800 --> 02:52:22,560
Speaker 1: The knee is a question mark, and I know the

3444
02:52:22,600 --> 02:52:26,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys certainly we're questioning his health moving forward enough to

3445
02:52:26,360 --> 02:52:29,400
Speaker 1: take him at twenty four, but at fifteen, that's pretty

3446
02:52:29,440 --> 02:52:31,480
Speaker 1: a high price to pay for a guy. They must

3447
02:52:31,520 --> 02:52:33,640
Speaker 1: have really liked something they saw in him. If you want,

3448
02:52:33,680 --> 02:52:35,440
Speaker 1: if you want me to be honest, and you always

3449
02:52:35,480 --> 02:52:37,400
Speaker 1: have to be delicate about this type of stuff, and we,

3450
02:52:37,600 --> 02:52:39,440
Speaker 1: I mean, we lay it out there about the concerns.

3451
02:52:39,560 --> 02:52:41,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if Dallas would have drafted him at

3452
02:52:41,240 --> 02:52:43,119
Speaker 1: twenty four. I don't think they because they were worried

3453
02:52:43,240 --> 02:52:46,480
Speaker 1: that worried about the knee. Maybe depending on what was

3454
02:52:46,520 --> 02:52:49,240
Speaker 1: available to them, maybe they do it. But I think,

3455
02:52:49,560 --> 02:52:51,800
Speaker 1: to use your terminology, Brian, I think this is a

3456
02:52:51,920 --> 02:52:54,680
Speaker 1: fake pen throw for the Cowboys where they're like, ah damn,

3457
02:52:54,800 --> 02:52:56,920
Speaker 1: somebody else took a chance on the guy with the knee,

3458
02:52:57,680 --> 02:52:59,320
Speaker 1: go for it. Yeah, No, just as a player. I

3459
02:52:59,400 --> 02:53:01,440
Speaker 1: think they like they love him as a well, but

3460
02:53:01,560 --> 02:53:03,560
Speaker 1: I think they're worried enough about his health that they

3461
02:53:03,560 --> 02:53:05,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done it. Yeah, And I think That's the thing.

3462
02:53:06,280 --> 02:53:09,240
Speaker 1: My assumption is that Green would be ranked higher for

3463
02:53:09,360 --> 02:53:12,200
Speaker 1: them than Johnson was. But I think they would have

3464
02:53:12,280 --> 02:53:14,640
Speaker 1: taken Johnson if it came down to those two. I

3465
02:53:14,680 --> 02:53:16,400
Speaker 1: think they would have taken Johnson at that point. And

3466
02:53:16,680 --> 02:53:19,400
Speaker 1: me saying that this gets you into gear from a

3467
02:53:19,440 --> 02:53:21,640
Speaker 1: war room standpoint, is as high as he was taken

3468
02:53:21,920 --> 02:53:25,400
Speaker 1: because even with the concern around his health and around

3469
02:53:25,440 --> 02:53:27,640
Speaker 1: the knee, they still expected him to go in the

3470
02:53:27,720 --> 02:53:29,920
Speaker 1: twenties or at least that's what the thought process is.

3471
02:53:29,959 --> 02:53:33,160
Speaker 1: That he was going to wait until the latter half

3472
02:53:33,200 --> 02:53:35,040
Speaker 1: of the first round. He wasn't supposed to go in

3473
02:53:35,120 --> 02:53:38,359
Speaker 1: the teams. Now does the price go up on Zion Johnson?

3474
02:53:38,560 --> 02:53:42,120
Speaker 1: That's my thing is is Trevor Penning Zion Johnson? Is

3475
02:53:42,160 --> 02:53:44,520
Speaker 1: are these the last chance efforts to go up and

3476
02:53:44,600 --> 02:53:47,640
Speaker 1: get an offensive tackle or an offensive guard if they

3477
02:53:47,720 --> 02:53:50,760
Speaker 1: wanted to really upgrade the offensive line spot. So now

3478
02:53:50,840 --> 02:53:53,760
Speaker 1: we need to do some math, not just trade math

3479
02:53:54,000 --> 02:53:57,480
Speaker 1: Washington on the clock, by the way, but count the

3480
02:53:57,720 --> 02:54:01,360
Speaker 1: players that you'd be happy with on your board falling

3481
02:54:01,720 --> 02:54:04,640
Speaker 1: to twenty four. How much we think are the Cowboys

3482
02:54:05,160 --> 02:54:09,440
Speaker 1: both I think right now you're looking at primarily in

3483
02:54:09,520 --> 02:54:12,080
Speaker 1: my opinion, I think you'd be looking at Penning, Zion Johnson,

3484
02:54:12,160 --> 02:54:14,800
Speaker 1: and Trailing Burks. Yeah, those are the three names I had. Yep,

3485
02:54:15,720 --> 02:54:19,680
Speaker 1: maybe a Devin Lloyd in there a few more. That's

3486
02:54:19,720 --> 02:54:23,520
Speaker 1: only three. That gets me to eighteen. It's well, I mean, yeah,

3487
02:54:23,680 --> 02:54:27,320
Speaker 1: so pick sixteen is in for Washington. Chargers are on

3488
02:54:27,360 --> 02:54:30,280
Speaker 1: the clock. The thing is that where your offensive line

3489
02:54:30,360 --> 02:54:33,400
Speaker 1: threats here between you and between now and your pick?

3490
02:54:33,600 --> 02:54:38,240
Speaker 1: Chargers are they are? The Saints? Are the Patriots are? Yeah?

3491
02:54:38,600 --> 02:54:41,199
Speaker 1: The Patriots I was hearing. I was hearing possibly Zion

3492
02:54:41,320 --> 02:54:46,000
Speaker 1: Johnson or Lloyd linebacker. Yeah. Yeah, It's funny. All the

3493
02:54:46,080 --> 02:54:49,480
Speaker 1: guys we said Washington loved are gone, Like I don't

3494
02:54:49,520 --> 02:54:52,760
Speaker 1: know what I don't know what they do here? Receiver

3495
02:54:53,120 --> 02:54:57,400
Speaker 1: take a tackle? Is there? Receiver? Who are the receivers left? Burst? Um,

3496
02:54:58,440 --> 02:55:04,320
Speaker 1: there's Burks, there's Pickings, there's Hants, and that would be

3497
02:55:04,680 --> 02:55:08,680
Speaker 1: that would be shocked. They just are we going to

3498
02:55:08,800 --> 02:55:11,880
Speaker 1: get the Cowboys war room camera this year? I think

3499
02:55:12,000 --> 02:55:13,720
Speaker 1: it's been up a couple it's been up a couple

3500
02:55:13,720 --> 02:55:15,840
Speaker 1: of times. It's been a little it's been a little chilling.

3501
02:55:15,920 --> 02:55:17,680
Speaker 1: There is right there, Oh there, it is right there.

3502
02:55:17,840 --> 02:55:20,880
Speaker 1: Thank you Dallas Cowboys dot com. Uh, and then I

3503
02:55:21,240 --> 02:55:23,959
Speaker 1: always like to stalk out that activity to see if

3504
02:55:23,959 --> 02:55:26,560
Speaker 1: they're on the phone for any potential trade or move

3505
02:55:26,640 --> 02:55:29,560
Speaker 1: up or right now they are sitting and they are chilling.

3506
02:55:30,080 --> 02:55:33,440
Speaker 1: JJ's not even in there, not a whole lot of activity. Huh. Yeah,

3507
02:55:33,760 --> 02:55:36,080
Speaker 1: they're they're they're sitting back. I think you're sitting there

3508
02:55:36,200 --> 02:55:41,320
Speaker 1: just wondering where old mister Zions going or if he will.

3509
02:55:41,440 --> 02:55:43,760
Speaker 1: I think they're sweating that one right now. But you know,

3510
02:55:44,000 --> 02:55:46,520
Speaker 1: if if you see them start working the phones, you know,

3511
02:55:46,600 --> 02:55:48,880
Speaker 1: maybe they feel like that they've got to go and

3512
02:55:49,360 --> 02:55:51,400
Speaker 1: you know they can't wait for that. Now. When you

3513
02:55:51,480 --> 02:55:54,440
Speaker 1: gave those three names, where those your names or you

3514
02:55:54,480 --> 02:55:56,360
Speaker 1: think their names? I think those are their names. Okay,

3515
02:55:56,720 --> 02:55:59,280
Speaker 1: I would out of those names, I'm alone. Nobody wants

3516
02:55:59,320 --> 02:56:01,440
Speaker 1: fix the offensive line, I would. I love Burks. I

3517
02:56:01,520 --> 02:56:04,760
Speaker 1: love trailing Burks at Arkansas. Yeah. I think Stephen Jones

3518
02:56:04,840 --> 02:56:08,320
Speaker 1: loves Trail because he went to Arkansas because his son,

3519
02:56:08,520 --> 02:56:11,360
Speaker 1: his son was a quarterback. That they know about this player, yeah,

3520
02:56:11,400 --> 02:56:14,600
Speaker 1: they absolutely know about this player. And that's the thing

3521
02:56:14,640 --> 02:56:17,080
Speaker 1: about it is that I feel like though that maybe

3522
02:56:17,120 --> 02:56:19,920
Speaker 1: the coaching staff Bobby correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe

3523
02:56:19,959 --> 02:56:22,440
Speaker 1: the coaching staff not as high on this guy. I mean,

3524
02:56:22,480 --> 02:56:24,240
Speaker 1: I just think there's probably like a lot of debate

3525
02:56:24,320 --> 02:56:25,640
Speaker 1: and a lot of split. I mean, that's what we've

3526
02:56:25,680 --> 02:56:27,640
Speaker 1: heard like leaking out recently, right, Like there's a split

3527
02:56:27,720 --> 02:56:29,600
Speaker 1: in there, and there's and one of the things that

3528
02:56:29,640 --> 02:56:31,440
Speaker 1: I think is important is Robert Prince, I know the

3529
02:56:31,520 --> 02:56:34,879
Speaker 1: receiver's coach. He wants polished route runners. That's who who

3530
02:56:34,959 --> 02:56:38,440
Speaker 1: he's very high on. And I don't know that that's

3531
02:56:38,520 --> 02:56:41,920
Speaker 1: not Burks. Burks is all traits and upside. And it

3532
02:56:42,120 --> 02:56:47,720
Speaker 1: was a Maria polished Yeah, Samaria the polished Yes. Sorry,

3533
02:56:47,959 --> 02:56:49,480
Speaker 1: oh oh, I get it now. I thought you meant

3534
02:56:49,480 --> 02:56:52,880
Speaker 1: as a prospect. I was like, yes, no, yes, yes,

3535
02:56:52,959 --> 02:56:55,320
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper is better than whatever they're going to come

3536
02:56:55,320 --> 02:56:57,440
Speaker 1: out of this draft with. Probably, you know, I didn't know.

3537
02:56:57,440 --> 02:56:59,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to be that negative date. I was

3538
02:56:59,320 --> 02:57:01,800
Speaker 1: just trying to do it drive by sarcastic shot. But

3539
02:57:01,879 --> 02:57:04,199
Speaker 1: I'd like you like to explain the negativity a little

3540
02:57:04,240 --> 02:57:06,760
Speaker 1: bit more. There we go. So here we go. The

3541
02:57:06,959 --> 02:57:10,240
Speaker 1: Commander's pick is in with Roger Goodell at the podium,

3542
02:57:10,480 --> 02:57:16,040
Speaker 1: number sixteen. Thanks pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft,

3543
02:57:16,959 --> 02:57:23,600
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders select John Dudson, whoa wide receivers rich.

3544
02:57:24,440 --> 02:57:26,720
Speaker 1: That's really rich. That that would be shocking, And that's

3545
02:57:26,760 --> 02:57:29,600
Speaker 1: what happened. All right, We're we're living up to the

3546
02:57:29,680 --> 02:57:34,560
Speaker 1: hypeer fellas, there's something well, I mean, we've already seen

3547
02:57:34,600 --> 02:57:38,440
Speaker 1: a million trades. We've yes there and there's one coming

3548
02:57:38,520 --> 02:57:40,640
Speaker 1: down the line as well. And that's a perfect tease

3549
02:57:40,720 --> 02:57:42,520
Speaker 1: on one oh five through the fan and the Dallas

3550
02:57:42,600 --> 02:57:51,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys radio network. Y'all. A J. Brown's getting traded to Philadelphia. Yeah,

3551
02:57:51,760 --> 02:57:58,920
Speaker 1: that's why the Titans. That makes sense. Wow, Kyle, I

3552
02:57:58,959 --> 02:58:00,920
Speaker 1: should have said it when we were back up on

3553
02:58:01,000 --> 02:58:03,400
Speaker 1: the stream. A J. Brown's going to Philly, guys for

3554
02:58:04,040 --> 02:58:06,879
Speaker 1: that pick. I didn't see the terms because if that's

3555
02:58:06,920 --> 02:58:09,119
Speaker 1: the pick, I think this is Burks. All right, reset

3556
02:58:09,160 --> 02:58:11,200
Speaker 1: all this. So where are we at here? Let's see

3557
02:58:11,200 --> 02:58:14,959
Speaker 1: what pick? Are we at seventeen officially on the television

3558
02:58:15,040 --> 02:58:18,000
Speaker 1: side of things, and so Philly's on the clock at eighteen.

3559
02:58:18,160 --> 02:58:21,280
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of chatter about Burt Traylan Burks

3560
02:58:21,280 --> 02:58:23,240
Speaker 1: to the Packers. Traylan Burks to the Packers, that's who

3561
02:58:23,720 --> 02:58:26,840
Speaker 1: who everybody's been connecting them with. With Philly sitting there

3562
02:58:26,840 --> 02:58:28,840
Speaker 1: at eighteen, you knew A J. Brown was unhappy. The

3563
02:58:29,200 --> 02:58:32,840
Speaker 1: very first comparison I heard for Traylan Burks from an

3564
02:58:32,920 --> 02:58:36,400
Speaker 1: NFL scout was AJ Brown eighteenth overall pick and a

3565
02:58:36,760 --> 02:58:39,840
Speaker 1: third to be determined. This is Burks. I think this

3566
02:58:40,000 --> 02:58:42,920
Speaker 1: is Tennessee going up to get Burks wild because I had,

3567
02:58:43,000 --> 02:58:45,240
Speaker 1: I had, and I think I talked about that on

3568
02:58:45,520 --> 02:58:47,880
Speaker 1: on G Bag today that that was that I was

3569
02:58:47,959 --> 02:58:50,200
Speaker 1: here in Tennessee just trying to jump up ahead of

3570
02:58:50,240 --> 02:58:52,760
Speaker 1: Green Bay to get Burks. Um. What do we think

3571
02:58:52,920 --> 02:58:57,039
Speaker 1: about Howie Roseman getting a J. Brown to go along

3572
02:58:57,160 --> 02:59:02,320
Speaker 1: with Davante? I think that this Eagles team is going

3573
02:59:02,400 --> 02:59:04,840
Speaker 1: to be very well positioned for the quarterback that they

3574
02:59:04,959 --> 02:59:08,160
Speaker 1: draft to run it next year. That's what I think.

3575
02:59:09,000 --> 02:59:11,200
Speaker 1: What did they give up for a J this pick

3576
02:59:11,440 --> 02:59:14,040
Speaker 1: and a third round? A third rounder? Here, we have

3577
02:59:14,160 --> 02:59:17,120
Speaker 1: a pick is already in for the Chargers. Let's go.

3578
02:59:18,040 --> 02:59:20,880
Speaker 1: We might lose our guy here, guys. Twenty two NFL Draft,

3579
02:59:21,760 --> 02:59:29,320
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers select Zion oh Goshen College left

3580
02:59:29,480 --> 02:59:33,199
Speaker 1: and then the upper cut. Yeah, in back to back selections.

3581
02:59:33,920 --> 02:59:36,200
Speaker 1: Now you are and now you're gonna lose Burks. I think,

3582
02:59:37,280 --> 02:59:40,920
Speaker 1: welcome to wipe out scenario. Everybody, Wow, Penning is there

3583
02:59:41,959 --> 02:59:44,480
Speaker 1: outside Finning. You're just penning your hopes on that or

3584
02:59:44,600 --> 02:59:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm just now that the fact that, the fact that

3585
02:59:47,959 --> 02:59:50,480
Speaker 1: the fact that Penning is starting to slip down a

3586
02:59:50,480 --> 02:59:52,080
Speaker 1: little bit and stuff just makes me go, Okay, well,

3587
02:59:52,120 --> 02:59:54,800
Speaker 1: maybe maybe that was wrong. Maybe I was wrong about

3588
02:59:55,000 --> 02:59:57,440
Speaker 1: hearing how much they liked him, because I'm surprised they

3589
02:59:57,440 --> 03:00:00,480
Speaker 1: haven't gone up. Man. See that's the thing we were

3590
03:00:00,520 --> 03:00:02,640
Speaker 1: talking about it, Bobby. I mean, you had some really

3591
03:00:02,680 --> 03:00:04,280
Speaker 1: good intelligence. I know, I was talking to some other

3592
03:00:04,320 --> 03:00:08,440
Speaker 1: people around the league seventeen, twenty one, twenty three. Those

3593
03:00:08,480 --> 03:00:12,400
Speaker 1: were all Zion Johnson potential landing spots. And now you're

3594
03:00:12,400 --> 03:00:15,560
Speaker 1: gonna get Titans take Titans will take Burks. I think.

3595
03:00:15,600 --> 03:00:17,160
Speaker 1: I think that's where we're heading here. And then Saints

3596
03:00:17,200 --> 03:00:20,440
Speaker 1: at nineteen could that be Penning? There you go? There

3597
03:00:20,520 --> 03:00:22,360
Speaker 1: you go. I think now you're now you're looking at

3598
03:00:22,400 --> 03:00:26,040
Speaker 1: your wipeout. Yeah, there you are. Hey, Tyler Linderbaum's still there. Everybody,

3599
03:00:26,120 --> 03:00:28,320
Speaker 1: let's just keep that in mind. I know they probably

3600
03:00:28,360 --> 03:00:32,000
Speaker 1: won't do it, but I would love that so let's

3601
03:00:32,000 --> 03:00:34,760
Speaker 1: get used to disappointment in this industry. Let's say okay,

3602
03:00:34,840 --> 03:00:37,920
Speaker 1: let's says, let's operate under this this thought. Would it

3603
03:00:38,000 --> 03:00:42,000
Speaker 1: goes Burkes and then Penning? Who are we talking about? Tyler?

3604
03:00:42,160 --> 03:00:44,440
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith? I think we're talking about Tyler Smith. Wow.

3605
03:00:44,560 --> 03:00:47,800
Speaker 1: I would take Lloyd or somebody like that, or bomb

3606
03:00:47,879 --> 03:00:49,360
Speaker 1: or I mean, I know they won't do I think

3607
03:00:49,440 --> 03:00:51,280
Speaker 1: Lloyd goes to the Patriots or they if they bail

3608
03:00:51,320 --> 03:00:52,920
Speaker 1: out me. Yeah, but there's no I don't think there's

3609
03:00:52,920 --> 03:00:54,800
Speaker 1: anybody to come up. Well they got Lloyd is a

3610
03:00:54,920 --> 03:00:57,320
Speaker 1: name to consider it until he's gone. At least, let's

3611
03:00:57,320 --> 03:01:00,760
Speaker 1: put it that should be yeah, Because I think I'm

3612
03:01:00,840 --> 03:01:02,959
Speaker 1: again we all we all know this. I don't even

3613
03:01:02,959 --> 03:01:07,280
Speaker 1: want to look at Twitter right now. I don't um.

3614
03:01:08,800 --> 03:01:10,680
Speaker 1: We know that most of these guys are going to

3615
03:01:10,720 --> 03:01:12,720
Speaker 1: be second round grades. Like I think Tyler Smith is

3616
03:01:12,760 --> 03:01:15,039
Speaker 1: a second round grade, but I don't know Lloyd's grade.

3617
03:01:15,120 --> 03:01:18,840
Speaker 1: Maybe Lloyd is a first round grade and hopefully well

3618
03:01:19,680 --> 03:01:22,480
Speaker 1: we know they they play it fast and loose with

3619
03:01:22,560 --> 03:01:24,640
Speaker 1: their grades when they need to, though they're not afraid to.

3620
03:01:26,879 --> 03:01:31,000
Speaker 1: M man. A lot of the phone's getting worse. I mean,

3621
03:01:32,280 --> 03:01:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my phone and I just well, and Bobby,

3622
03:01:35,720 --> 03:01:37,480
Speaker 1: you brought it up a minute ago. You're surprised that

3623
03:01:37,600 --> 03:01:39,800
Speaker 1: they haven't gone up yet. They I mean, we've been

3624
03:01:39,840 --> 03:01:41,680
Speaker 1: taking peaks in at the war room. They haven't even

3625
03:01:41,720 --> 03:01:44,240
Speaker 1: picked up the phone yet. I mean even from a call,

3626
03:01:44,440 --> 03:01:46,080
Speaker 1: they haven't picked it up to done. Can we go

3627
03:01:46,120 --> 03:01:47,680
Speaker 1: to war room camera now? Can we see if they're

3628
03:01:47,680 --> 03:01:49,880
Speaker 1: to call them anybody yet? Well, somebody on a good

3629
03:01:49,920 --> 03:01:52,240
Speaker 1: point from somebody on Twitter, it's fair to call this

3630
03:01:52,520 --> 03:01:57,200
Speaker 1: this is a Jermaine Johnson free fall at this point. Boy, hey, Brian,

3631
03:01:57,360 --> 03:02:01,120
Speaker 1: not for me, Brian, not just for you. Trust your you.

3632
03:02:01,320 --> 03:02:03,480
Speaker 1: You can trust your guys because because your people told

3633
03:02:03,480 --> 03:02:05,440
Speaker 1: you a long time ago. Media is wrong on Johnson.

3634
03:02:05,480 --> 03:02:07,520
Speaker 1: They have Johnson way higher Scoop point. He has brought

3635
03:02:07,560 --> 03:02:10,240
Speaker 1: that up on multiple occasions. So they were right, because

3636
03:02:10,280 --> 03:02:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean, this is already way higher than people thought

3637
03:02:11,840 --> 03:02:13,600
Speaker 1: Johnson was gonna go. It was pick one on one,

3638
03:02:13,680 --> 03:02:18,200
Speaker 1: by the way, to add to the pick or the

3639
03:02:18,280 --> 03:02:21,119
Speaker 1: trade for a J Brown rather so the Titans get

3640
03:02:21,240 --> 03:02:24,760
Speaker 1: pick one on one. This pizza is really good, is it?

3641
03:02:26,600 --> 03:02:29,320
Speaker 1: Nobody's paying me or asking me to say it. It's good.

3642
03:02:29,440 --> 03:02:32,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, Papa John's very well, that's clutch. I got

3643
03:02:32,160 --> 03:02:35,360
Speaker 1: my caffeine fix. Not just ready to go, ready to go?

3644
03:02:35,440 --> 03:02:43,960
Speaker 1: We could do it. Yeah, thanks a h. So we

3645
03:02:44,040 --> 03:02:45,760
Speaker 1: got two TVs up here. If I get if I

3646
03:02:45,840 --> 03:02:50,200
Speaker 1: get my other TV option, I'll be in heaven, be

3647
03:02:50,280 --> 03:03:10,000
Speaker 1: ready to go for four am. Here we go. All right, guys,

3648
03:03:10,520 --> 03:03:14,880
Speaker 1: it feels like we just took a nasty combination in

3649
03:03:14,959 --> 03:03:17,280
Speaker 1: the ring. Maybe I thought it was two shots. It

3650
03:03:17,400 --> 03:03:20,480
Speaker 1: may have been three shots right then? With what just

3651
03:03:20,640 --> 03:03:24,199
Speaker 1: happened Sean Sharif, Kyle Yeoman's David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys

3652
03:03:24,240 --> 03:03:27,880
Speaker 1: dot Com our head scout, Brian brought us and Bobby Belt,

3653
03:03:28,120 --> 03:03:33,480
Speaker 1: our Cowboys insider. The Philadelphia Eagles have traded for a J.

3654
03:03:33,760 --> 03:03:37,200
Speaker 1: Brown AJ, one of these receivers not happy with his

3655
03:03:37,320 --> 03:03:41,200
Speaker 1: current contract situation. He doesn't have to worry about it

3656
03:03:41,400 --> 03:03:45,080
Speaker 1: in Tennessee any longer. He's going to the Eagles. And

3657
03:03:45,760 --> 03:03:49,280
Speaker 1: what else happened on the board before the Cowboys pick

3658
03:03:49,400 --> 03:03:51,440
Speaker 1: at twenty four? As you guys were talking about this

3659
03:03:51,560 --> 03:03:55,400
Speaker 1: wipeout scenario. Now, so you get Zion Johnson going seventeen

3660
03:03:55,600 --> 03:03:58,480
Speaker 1: to the Chargers. That's somebody they wanted. This is eighteen

3661
03:03:58,520 --> 03:03:59,680
Speaker 1: to pick us in. We don't know what it is

3662
03:03:59,760 --> 03:04:03,240
Speaker 1: yet to this Tennessee going up. This has gotta be Burkes, Bobby,

3663
03:04:03,320 --> 03:04:05,080
Speaker 1: who I kept doing all day. They wanted to go

3664
03:04:05,160 --> 03:04:09,040
Speaker 1: up and gets because trailing Burk's receiver in Arkansas. And

3665
03:04:09,160 --> 03:04:12,200
Speaker 1: like I said, the very first comp I got from

3666
03:04:12,440 --> 03:04:15,720
Speaker 1: somebody in the NFL about Burks was they said, A J. Brown, So, okay,

3667
03:04:15,800 --> 03:04:18,800
Speaker 1: let's go get a J. Brown again, jackal and on

3668
03:04:18,879 --> 03:04:20,920
Speaker 1: a rookie deal and not upset with things. Well, we'll

3669
03:04:21,000 --> 03:04:22,879
Speaker 1: just go get the younger version of them. Now did

3670
03:04:22,920 --> 03:04:26,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Brian, how much do they love Johnson Zion Johnson?

3671
03:04:26,879 --> 03:04:29,280
Speaker 1: And how much did they like Burks? Yeah? I think

3672
03:04:29,360 --> 03:04:31,320
Speaker 1: that to me. When you started that, the hope was

3673
03:04:31,480 --> 03:04:33,400
Speaker 1: that maybe you were going to maybe have a chance

3674
03:04:33,480 --> 03:04:36,280
Speaker 1: today when the day started, you were going to get Burks,

3675
03:04:36,760 --> 03:04:40,119
Speaker 1: Johnson and then also Green. Those were the day, all

3676
03:04:40,160 --> 03:04:42,920
Speaker 1: those names, and now they're all likely going to be gone.

3677
03:04:43,040 --> 03:04:45,680
Speaker 1: Here A J. Brown just got an extension to what

3678
03:04:45,879 --> 03:04:47,960
Speaker 1: is it for four years, one hundred million, fifty seven

3679
03:04:48,000 --> 03:04:53,520
Speaker 1: guaranteed a year. It was a mari making. Has a J.

3680
03:04:53,600 --> 03:04:56,800
Speaker 1: Brown had a thousand yards season? It's almost as if

3681
03:04:56,840 --> 03:04:59,800
Speaker 1: that was a reasonable salary to pay a probram You guys,

3682
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:03,320
Speaker 1: do you guys think that they really misjudged had a

3683
03:05:03,320 --> 03:05:05,560
Speaker 1: thousand yards and twenty where the wide receiver market was

3684
03:05:05,640 --> 03:05:11,160
Speaker 1: going sidebar because it was hard to see that Tyreek

3685
03:05:11,280 --> 03:05:15,000
Speaker 1: was gonna get thirty right, we were at twenty twenty

3686
03:05:15,080 --> 03:05:17,720
Speaker 1: one and then took it to twenty five. This might

3687
03:05:17,800 --> 03:05:20,560
Speaker 1: have been personal moving on at this point, moving on

3688
03:05:20,680 --> 03:05:23,200
Speaker 1: from Amari, like saving money was part of it, But

3689
03:05:23,400 --> 03:05:27,200
Speaker 1: there's more to it than that. There's that contract was

3690
03:05:27,320 --> 03:05:29,440
Speaker 1: one of the better ones they've done in recent memory

3691
03:05:29,480 --> 03:05:32,040
Speaker 1: in terms of like it was. It was an affordable

3692
03:05:32,080 --> 03:05:34,520
Speaker 1: price for a guy of his caliber, and they structured

3693
03:05:34,560 --> 03:05:36,200
Speaker 1: it so that they could get out of it like

3694
03:05:36,320 --> 03:05:38,240
Speaker 1: they It didn't hurt them to trade him. It wouldn't

3695
03:05:38,240 --> 03:05:40,160
Speaker 1: have hurt them to cut him. It was a very

3696
03:05:40,240 --> 03:05:42,960
Speaker 1: favorable contract and they didn't want it anyway, which leads

3697
03:05:43,000 --> 03:05:45,320
Speaker 1: me to believe to Brian's point, it was about more

3698
03:05:45,400 --> 03:05:47,720
Speaker 1: than just money. All right, Sorry, bitter side note is

3699
03:05:47,800 --> 03:05:52,200
Speaker 1: the biggest gut punch of ball Zion Johnson gone. I

3700
03:05:52,320 --> 03:05:55,000
Speaker 1: think the chargers. The fact that both of the guards

3701
03:05:55,040 --> 03:05:57,200
Speaker 1: are already gone and we haven't even hit picked twenty.

3702
03:05:57,360 --> 03:05:59,840
Speaker 1: That sucks. I think. Yeah, that was the fact that

3703
03:06:00,000 --> 03:06:03,120
Speaker 1: they probably had him penciled into maybe play center. You know,

3704
03:06:03,240 --> 03:06:05,240
Speaker 1: they were trying to fix some things that way too.

3705
03:06:05,400 --> 03:06:09,200
Speaker 1: So we'll see. I'm over. I'm over hearing about this

3706
03:06:09,680 --> 03:06:13,480
Speaker 1: positional value stuff like obviously quarterbacks and edge rushers and

3707
03:06:13,560 --> 03:06:16,880
Speaker 1: cornerbacks are gonna end tackles like that holds true, but

3708
03:06:17,040 --> 03:06:20,440
Speaker 1: people are like cowboys can't take a guard at twenty four.

3709
03:06:20,600 --> 03:06:22,640
Speaker 1: That's not good positional value. Okay, Well, the two that

3710
03:06:22,720 --> 03:06:26,240
Speaker 1: they were targeting went fifteenth and seventeen. They're gone. Stop.

3711
03:06:26,600 --> 03:06:30,320
Speaker 1: So you're looking at a short list of names of Tyler, Linderbaum,

3712
03:06:30,480 --> 03:06:33,520
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith. Here we go quick with the Titans selection

3713
03:06:33,640 --> 03:06:39,199
Speaker 1: at eighteen. Have traded the eighteenth pick to the Tennessee Titans.

3714
03:06:40,760 --> 03:06:44,240
Speaker 1: With the eighteenth pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft,

3715
03:06:45,040 --> 03:06:50,000
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans select Trailing Burkes. We'll call Bobby. You

3716
03:06:50,040 --> 03:06:53,119
Speaker 1: were on that all day, puzzle pieces, Bobby Bell, well

3717
03:06:53,160 --> 03:06:56,680
Speaker 1: done putting them together, putting them together. So now trying

3718
03:06:56,680 --> 03:07:00,600
Speaker 1: to put together that list Linderbaum, Tyler Smith, Rever Penning,

3719
03:07:00,800 --> 03:07:04,440
Speaker 1: debn Lloyd, Nakobe Dean. That's five names with six picks

3720
03:07:04,480 --> 03:07:08,560
Speaker 1: remaining until the Cowboys selected twenty four. You feel pretty

3721
03:07:08,560 --> 03:07:10,119
Speaker 1: good that it's going to be one of those guys.

3722
03:07:11,080 --> 03:07:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like right now, I feel like Pennings.

3723
03:07:14,040 --> 03:07:15,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I feel like Penning could be

3724
03:07:15,600 --> 03:07:18,800
Speaker 1: coming here with the Saints at nineteen. Yeah, could be. Um,

3725
03:07:19,480 --> 03:07:21,680
Speaker 1: they got to replace Armstead, So I mean he's a

3726
03:07:21,800 --> 03:07:25,080
Speaker 1: he's a good athlete like Armstead. Yeah, Um, are we

3727
03:07:25,240 --> 03:07:29,080
Speaker 1: fine with a linebackers? On? Who else is there? I

3728
03:07:29,200 --> 03:07:31,160
Speaker 1: think I think if they lose Penning in the next

3729
03:07:31,200 --> 03:07:34,400
Speaker 1: few picks, I think we're looking at Tyler Smith. Please

3730
03:07:34,440 --> 03:07:37,840
Speaker 1: give me. How can I run across the way? You

3731
03:07:38,440 --> 03:07:40,840
Speaker 1: can I run? That's how this works. I thought Linder

3732
03:07:40,879 --> 03:07:43,640
Speaker 1: Bam was you know a fan favorite? Are you not

3733
03:07:43,760 --> 03:07:47,280
Speaker 1: feeling it? Fan favorite? Yeah? And that again that's I mean,

3734
03:07:47,480 --> 03:07:49,120
Speaker 1: we joke, but like that's what I always trying to

3735
03:07:49,120 --> 03:07:52,360
Speaker 1: tell people. Like, let's talk about him. He Brimington Award

3736
03:07:52,440 --> 03:07:55,760
Speaker 1: winner best center in college football, dominated the Big Ten,

3737
03:07:57,200 --> 03:07:59,160
Speaker 1: his tape as clean as hell. Man, Like, I mean,

3738
03:07:59,240 --> 03:08:01,280
Speaker 1: he gets to the second level, he does all the

3739
03:08:01,320 --> 03:08:03,480
Speaker 1: stuff you want your center to do. I've never seen

3740
03:08:03,760 --> 03:08:07,640
Speaker 1: I've never seen a player that's traits deficient play as

3741
03:08:07,680 --> 03:08:10,240
Speaker 1: great as he does. And I mean trade because I

3742
03:08:10,280 --> 03:08:14,240
Speaker 1: thought you guys were gonna have a problem with it. Now. See,

3743
03:08:14,320 --> 03:08:17,120
Speaker 1: the league doesn't like him because he's lighting the butt. Yeah,

3744
03:08:17,400 --> 03:08:20,320
Speaker 1: and he doesn't have like the ideal like size and

3745
03:08:20,440 --> 03:08:22,360
Speaker 1: length that you would ask. This team has a history

3746
03:08:22,400 --> 03:08:24,680
Speaker 1: of playing with a small center, Mark Stepnoski. They went

3747
03:08:24,760 --> 03:08:26,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowls with a light center. Okay, I get it,

3748
03:08:26,800 --> 03:08:29,520
Speaker 1: it's twenty something years ago. But this kid, you watch

3749
03:08:29,640 --> 03:08:32,120
Speaker 1: him play, we talk about it. He's smart, he's tough,

3750
03:08:32,760 --> 03:08:35,320
Speaker 1: he could cut a defense in half. I mentioned that

3751
03:08:35,440 --> 03:08:38,080
Speaker 1: that's the one thing when you watch, when you watch Travis,

3752
03:08:38,240 --> 03:08:45,000
Speaker 1: Travis's Travis Frederick is not a difficult name. No I was, no, No,

3753
03:08:45,120 --> 03:08:47,680
Speaker 1: I know, but but my thoughts were going to my head.

3754
03:08:47,959 --> 03:08:49,920
Speaker 1: But see, that's that's the thing about it is you

3755
03:08:50,000 --> 03:08:52,720
Speaker 1: watch him play second level, You watch him reach wide,

3756
03:08:52,800 --> 03:08:55,640
Speaker 1: you watch him get out on sweeps and screens and

3757
03:08:55,720 --> 03:08:58,200
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and this is what this guy does.

3758
03:08:58,320 --> 03:09:01,200
Speaker 1: But they don't want a six two two ninety six

3759
03:09:01,200 --> 03:09:04,400
Speaker 1: pounds center. They just don't. I mean, he that's all

3760
03:09:04,480 --> 03:09:06,800
Speaker 1: he could play as center. Yeah, you know, so that's

3761
03:09:06,920 --> 03:09:09,160
Speaker 1: that's why they probably are against it. That goes back

3762
03:09:09,200 --> 03:09:11,560
Speaker 1: to I always frame it this way, but he might

3763
03:09:11,600 --> 03:09:13,560
Speaker 1: be the out of the box pick though that Jerry

3764
03:09:13,640 --> 03:09:15,360
Speaker 1: Jones was talking. I mean, if they get cleaned out,

3765
03:09:15,360 --> 03:09:16,720
Speaker 1: I don't think you can rule it out. But that's

3766
03:09:16,760 --> 03:09:19,040
Speaker 1: why I always tell people. I'm like, yeah, I'll give

3767
03:09:19,080 --> 03:09:21,000
Speaker 1: you my opinion, but it doesn't matter at the end

3768
03:09:21,040 --> 03:09:22,840
Speaker 1: of the day because they're the ones that are over

3769
03:09:22,920 --> 03:09:26,760
Speaker 1: there with the telephone. All right, uh so let me

3770
03:09:26,800 --> 03:09:30,039
Speaker 1: ask a This might be a dumb question, but Kurloft

3771
03:09:30,160 --> 03:09:33,280
Speaker 1: just do anything for anybody. Yeah, I like him. I

3772
03:09:33,320 --> 03:09:35,360
Speaker 1: don't know that they I don't think they Yeah, I

3773
03:09:35,400 --> 03:09:37,640
Speaker 1: don't know what was your question, Sean, Sorry, my question

3774
03:09:37,760 --> 03:09:41,600
Speaker 1: was going to be about their evaluation of offensive Lineman

3775
03:09:41,680 --> 03:09:47,000
Speaker 1: as of late, like Tyrnn, Zach Fine, Travis Good, Connor

3776
03:09:47,040 --> 03:09:51,320
Speaker 1: Williams just left here. Um Leo Collins. I don't know

3777
03:09:51,520 --> 03:09:53,920
Speaker 1: how you grate that the person I think the way

3778
03:09:53,920 --> 03:09:56,520
Speaker 1: it worked out, I mean, yeah, be honest, was a

3779
03:09:56,600 --> 03:09:59,840
Speaker 1: fourth rounder, but everyone's looking to replace him. How do

3780
03:10:00,040 --> 03:10:02,920
Speaker 1: you feel about there? Don't forget about McGovern either, McGovern

3781
03:10:03,560 --> 03:10:06,360
Speaker 1: that's probably the biggest one. They were head over second

3782
03:10:06,400 --> 03:10:08,640
Speaker 1: round grade on that. So my question is, like you know,

3783
03:10:08,760 --> 03:10:10,960
Speaker 1: every team usually like nails a position and we're like,

3784
03:10:11,080 --> 03:10:12,960
Speaker 1: all right, there you go, Cowboys offensive lineman. How do

3785
03:10:13,000 --> 03:10:15,520
Speaker 1: we feel about that? Now, that's a really good question.

3786
03:10:15,680 --> 03:10:19,600
Speaker 1: They haven't necessarily invested a ton though up front firm

3787
03:10:19,959 --> 03:10:23,400
Speaker 1: firm disagree, I mean Smith, okay, Connor Williams was a

3788
03:10:23,400 --> 03:10:26,080
Speaker 1: second round pick. Connor was picked fifty. McGovern was pick

3789
03:10:26,120 --> 03:10:30,120
Speaker 1: with it. They had him graded at the top and

3790
03:10:30,160 --> 03:10:31,800
Speaker 1: I already said that I agree with you in that

3791
03:10:31,920 --> 03:10:34,760
Speaker 1: regard because that's the biggest glaring miss right now. But

3792
03:10:34,840 --> 03:10:37,720
Speaker 1: outside of that, what have they done? Io Collins was

3793
03:10:37,760 --> 03:10:40,080
Speaker 1: a low risk, high reward sort of pick. They've invested

3794
03:10:40,120 --> 03:10:42,720
Speaker 1: two top one hundred picks an interior lineman that didn't

3795
03:10:42,800 --> 03:10:45,039
Speaker 1: give them back what they were Probably they didn't they

3796
03:10:45,080 --> 03:10:47,480
Speaker 1: trade up for be honest, they did. They went up

3797
03:10:47,520 --> 03:10:49,920
Speaker 1: for I know, the fourth round, but it doesn't matter.

3798
03:10:49,959 --> 03:10:52,160
Speaker 1: They still invested capital to go up. And now they're going, well,

3799
03:10:52,240 --> 03:10:54,120
Speaker 1: is he's smart enough? Yeah? Or does he have the

3800
03:10:54,160 --> 03:10:55,960
Speaker 1: IQ to do this? Like, I mean, you're so. I

3801
03:10:56,080 --> 03:10:57,600
Speaker 1: was just wondering when we were all when everyone was

3802
03:10:57,600 --> 03:11:00,200
Speaker 1: talking about Cowboys offensive line, I was like, is is

3803
03:11:00,240 --> 03:11:02,720
Speaker 1: it as a big a lock? As I used to

3804
03:11:02,840 --> 03:11:06,280
Speaker 1: just think the funny the funny argument. Uh, people say

3805
03:11:06,320 --> 03:11:07,760
Speaker 1: it all the time. They're like, well, you shouldn't need

3806
03:11:07,840 --> 03:11:09,720
Speaker 1: five first round picks to have a great line, right,

3807
03:11:10,160 --> 03:11:13,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have not found a ton of great lineman

3808
03:11:13,240 --> 03:11:15,680
Speaker 1: that world first round picks. Yeah, that's a it's a

3809
03:11:15,920 --> 03:11:19,120
Speaker 1: very valid critique. You kind of need the Saints right

3810
03:11:19,160 --> 03:11:21,880
Speaker 1: here to take this quarterback, right, yes, yeah, I don't

3811
03:11:21,879 --> 03:11:24,880
Speaker 1: think they're going to though. I think this is our tackle. Okay,

3812
03:11:24,920 --> 03:11:27,200
Speaker 1: I think this is Penning. He's looking at Twitter. I

3813
03:11:27,280 --> 03:11:29,440
Speaker 1: did not no, no, no, no, no, no, did no.

3814
03:11:29,480 --> 03:11:31,840
Speaker 1: Actually I haven't seen anything about on Twitter. I'm saying

3815
03:11:31,959 --> 03:11:34,640
Speaker 1: it's like it fits like Armstead, he's athletic, Like they

3816
03:11:34,720 --> 03:11:36,880
Speaker 1: need a left they didn't need a tackle. I mentioned that.

3817
03:11:37,360 --> 03:11:39,040
Speaker 1: But if if, if you're in a if you're the

3818
03:11:39,120 --> 03:11:42,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys draft room and you're thinking about taking Penning, you're

3819
03:11:42,440 --> 03:11:44,880
Speaker 1: you're like praying right now that the Saints just go

3820
03:11:44,920 --> 03:11:47,640
Speaker 1: ahead and take this quarterback. So let's just it's probably

3821
03:11:47,680 --> 03:11:49,520
Speaker 1: your right, it's probably not gonna happen. Let's reset what

3822
03:11:49,640 --> 03:11:53,560
Speaker 1: has happened. Jordan Davis at thirteen goes to the Eagles

3823
03:11:53,640 --> 03:11:55,680
Speaker 1: and a trade up Hamilton, the safety goes to the

3824
03:11:55,760 --> 03:11:59,640
Speaker 1: Ravens at fourteen. Green the aggie from A and m

3825
03:11:59,760 --> 03:12:04,920
Speaker 1: up phrasing number fifteen. Yeah, I mean props to landcer Line.

3826
03:12:04,959 --> 03:12:07,520
Speaker 1: And we talked about this day before on the g

3827
03:12:07,640 --> 03:12:10,280
Speaker 1: Back Nation Bobby all Us, we all talked about that

3828
03:12:10,480 --> 03:12:14,040
Speaker 1: that landzer Line mocked him, and everybody's I must think, Hey,

3829
03:12:14,160 --> 03:12:16,520
Speaker 1: keep us something in mind here if you like Green,

3830
03:12:16,800 --> 03:12:19,199
Speaker 1: he got just mocked by And we were talking about

3831
03:12:19,240 --> 03:12:22,080
Speaker 1: scouts and these guys that have connections in the league. Man,

3832
03:12:22,160 --> 03:12:25,480
Speaker 1: he nailed that one. Good for him. So then at sixteen,

3833
03:12:25,560 --> 03:12:30,120
Speaker 1: Washington made a pick that you guys seemed to say, huh, yeah, Johnson,

3834
03:12:30,680 --> 03:12:33,080
Speaker 1: he's a good player. He's a good player, and it

3835
03:12:33,160 --> 03:12:34,640
Speaker 1: shouldn't be a surprise to see him go in the

3836
03:12:34,680 --> 03:12:37,040
Speaker 1: first round. But most people thought maybe more toward the

3837
03:12:37,120 --> 03:12:40,080
Speaker 1: back half. He's he's a very slight guy. Uh, he's

3838
03:12:41,360 --> 03:12:43,920
Speaker 1: he's a slot receiver, like can I think he is? Yes?

3839
03:12:44,280 --> 03:12:46,040
Speaker 1: Here we go with Goodell. Let's see if this is

3840
03:12:46,080 --> 03:12:49,959
Speaker 1: a quarterback or the tackle or service members. And although

3841
03:12:50,080 --> 03:12:55,360
Speaker 1: serving our great nation domestically and around the world with

3842
03:12:55,520 --> 03:12:58,800
Speaker 1: the nineteenth pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft,

3843
03:12:59,640 --> 03:13:07,320
Speaker 1: didn't Orland sakes like Trevor Penning tackle quo, good job, Bobo.

3844
03:13:08,360 --> 03:13:11,720
Speaker 1: Now I don't feel good about any of this, Okay,

3845
03:13:11,920 --> 03:13:17,240
Speaker 1: So compare this feeling to last year there was panic also, yeah,

3846
03:13:17,280 --> 03:13:20,160
Speaker 1: and that the corners went you had to settle from

3847
03:13:20,200 --> 03:13:22,440
Speaker 1: Michael Parson. Yeah. No. Look, look, I mean like, this

3848
03:13:22,640 --> 03:13:25,440
Speaker 1: isn't that my ideal situation. I have come to the

3849
03:13:25,480 --> 03:13:27,000
Speaker 1: point and this is the line I've been preaching on

3850
03:13:27,040 --> 03:13:28,760
Speaker 1: one O five through the fan for a while. Now.

3851
03:13:29,120 --> 03:13:31,520
Speaker 1: I've gotten a point where I just like blindly trust

3852
03:13:31,760 --> 03:13:33,720
Speaker 1: what the scouting staff is going to do, the work

3853
03:13:33,760 --> 03:13:36,040
Speaker 1: that they're gonna do. I'm gonna trust that they're gonna

3854
03:13:36,040 --> 03:13:38,040
Speaker 1: find me a good player, no matter what I may

3855
03:13:38,160 --> 03:13:40,240
Speaker 1: or may not like think of the player. The track

3856
03:13:40,280 --> 03:13:42,360
Speaker 1: record speaks for itself, and so to me, it's like

3857
03:13:42,560 --> 03:13:44,879
Speaker 1: I'm trusting the scouting staff. So look, if this pick

3858
03:13:45,040 --> 03:13:48,440
Speaker 1: is Nakobe Deane, if it's George Carloftus, if it's you know,

3859
03:13:49,000 --> 03:13:51,080
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith, if it's any name we haven't even talked

3860
03:13:51,080 --> 03:13:53,760
Speaker 1: about yet, then I'm gonna trust that they're gonna get

3861
03:13:53,800 --> 03:13:56,920
Speaker 1: it right. But this is this is but that's a

3862
03:13:57,000 --> 03:14:00,880
Speaker 1: little bit different from running out of options. You know

3863
03:14:00,879 --> 03:14:03,360
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, it's it's easier for me to

3864
03:14:03,400 --> 03:14:06,240
Speaker 1: trust you're going to get it right at ten than

3865
03:14:06,400 --> 03:14:09,440
Speaker 1: twenty four when they had fifteen first grade. We haven't

3866
03:14:09,440 --> 03:14:11,400
Speaker 1: seen them work the phones. We haven't seen them on

3867
03:14:11,440 --> 03:14:13,040
Speaker 1: the phone trying to go up, So they must feel

3868
03:14:13,160 --> 03:14:15,520
Speaker 1: comfortable enough if they lose those guys. Did you guys

3869
03:14:15,560 --> 03:14:18,520
Speaker 1: in any of your scenarios, have all these guys gone? No,

3870
03:14:19,000 --> 03:14:21,480
Speaker 1: not really. I tried running it through. I tried to

3871
03:14:21,520 --> 03:14:23,840
Speaker 1: create scenarios where they'd all be gone. Well, these are

3872
03:14:23,879 --> 03:14:27,240
Speaker 1: guys that I thought would be not on the board

3873
03:14:27,280 --> 03:14:28,880
Speaker 1: at all, to add to kind of the list of

3874
03:14:28,959 --> 03:14:31,000
Speaker 1: names that we thought would be there. George Karloftus I

3875
03:14:31,040 --> 03:14:33,480
Speaker 1: thought would be gone. I thought Nakobe Dean and Devin

3876
03:14:33,600 --> 03:14:35,800
Speaker 1: Lloyd had a good shot one of those two would

3877
03:14:35,800 --> 03:14:40,080
Speaker 1: be gone. They're both still sitting there. Davante Wyatt maybe

3878
03:14:40,240 --> 03:14:43,080
Speaker 1: in that conversation, but outside of that, No, I feel

3879
03:14:43,120 --> 03:14:45,480
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys were wiped out of their targets. But

3880
03:14:45,879 --> 03:14:47,800
Speaker 1: then they have these other guys that are sitting there

3881
03:14:47,840 --> 03:14:50,480
Speaker 1: too that could potentially I'm looking to play a fact.

3882
03:14:50,840 --> 03:14:54,440
Speaker 1: I wonder, like how many of the guys that we

3883
03:14:54,640 --> 03:14:58,400
Speaker 1: really penciled in as like guarantees to go or left,

3884
03:14:58,520 --> 03:15:01,000
Speaker 1: Like I would say Jermaine jo in his one yep.

3885
03:15:01,320 --> 03:15:06,080
Speaker 1: I would say, um, Devin Lloyd is one yep to

3886
03:15:06,240 --> 03:15:10,640
Speaker 1: Vante Wyatt, and then everything else is kind of a crapshoot.

3887
03:15:10,640 --> 03:15:12,720
Speaker 1: I just I wonder how much these last twelve or

3888
03:15:12,800 --> 03:15:14,880
Speaker 1: thirteen picks, Like how crazy is it gonna get? I

3889
03:15:14,959 --> 03:15:17,360
Speaker 1: just I didn't see. I didn't see it. Like when

3890
03:15:17,360 --> 03:15:19,200
Speaker 1: we talked about could you get a scenario where they

3891
03:15:19,240 --> 03:15:22,600
Speaker 1: were all gone? I always had like generally the worst

3892
03:15:22,720 --> 03:15:24,600
Speaker 1: case scenario I got to was the only one left

3893
03:15:24,680 --> 03:15:26,880
Speaker 1: was Green. Yeah, And that made me a little and

3894
03:15:26,920 --> 03:15:28,280
Speaker 1: that made me a little like ah, because I don't

3895
03:15:28,280 --> 03:15:29,840
Speaker 1: know how well they feel about his knee, So that

3896
03:15:29,959 --> 03:15:32,080
Speaker 1: was the one that I could. But I mean, with

3897
03:15:32,200 --> 03:15:33,640
Speaker 1: Green gone, it's like, wow, you don't even have that

3898
03:15:33,640 --> 03:15:35,280
Speaker 1: as an option. Now. Did they know this was going

3899
03:15:35,360 --> 03:15:38,000
Speaker 1: to happen? Though? That's my thing because the Tyler Smith

3900
03:15:38,040 --> 03:15:40,640
Speaker 1: has been telegraphed for a long time, So did they

3901
03:15:40,760 --> 03:15:42,920
Speaker 1: have an idea that they could be wiped out of

3902
03:15:42,920 --> 03:15:44,760
Speaker 1: the names that we've been talking about for so long?

3903
03:15:45,040 --> 03:15:47,560
Speaker 1: I mean, shout out to melt Keiper who had that

3904
03:15:47,640 --> 03:15:50,240
Speaker 1: as his pick. In like January. I think, I mean

3905
03:15:50,800 --> 03:15:53,680
Speaker 1: we did it. We did. Like we touched on him

3906
03:15:53,840 --> 03:15:56,840
Speaker 1: on the Draft show early on. Who is he? He

3907
03:15:57,800 --> 03:16:00,760
Speaker 1: guard tackle out of Tulsa, played played tackle at Tulsa

3908
03:16:01,240 --> 03:16:05,880
Speaker 1: translates to guard in the prosum And what the reason

3909
03:16:05,920 --> 03:16:07,280
Speaker 1: I bring it up? He's like, it must have been

3910
03:16:07,360 --> 03:16:11,119
Speaker 1: January or February. Kiper mocked him and we got inundated

3911
03:16:11,160 --> 03:16:12,880
Speaker 1: with questions about him because they were like, who is

3912
03:16:12,920 --> 03:16:15,600
Speaker 1: this dude that mel Kiper thinks we're gonna take um?

3913
03:16:15,959 --> 03:16:17,800
Speaker 1: I brought us. You have a second round grade on him?

3914
03:16:18,240 --> 03:16:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Brian, you read your scouting report because you

3915
03:16:20,480 --> 03:16:23,320
Speaker 1: take notes on all these guys. Yeah. I was trying

3916
03:16:23,360 --> 03:16:25,680
Speaker 1: to get there right. He's a local kid. Time a

3917
03:16:25,720 --> 03:16:28,720
Speaker 1: little more time for fort Worth. Uh? He born and

3918
03:16:28,840 --> 03:16:31,400
Speaker 1: raised in Fort Worth. He was North Crowley High alum. Yeah,

3919
03:16:31,440 --> 03:16:32,760
Speaker 1: I mean he's from around here. He was a Dallas

3920
03:16:32,800 --> 03:16:34,200
Speaker 1: Day participant. They had him in here when they did

3921
03:16:34,200 --> 03:16:36,720
Speaker 1: their Dallas Day. Ye, so maybe we would have been

3922
03:16:36,760 --> 03:16:38,320
Speaker 1: tipped off if he was not a Dallasday guy. Maybe

3923
03:16:38,320 --> 03:16:39,560
Speaker 1: would have been tipped off if they would have had

3924
03:16:39,640 --> 03:16:41,960
Speaker 1: him in for thirty does it? Yeah, he's he's Scotsman

3925
03:16:42,000 --> 03:16:45,720
Speaker 1: Press that way, he's six five, he's three twenty four.

3926
03:16:46,720 --> 03:16:49,720
Speaker 1: I think, to me, it's more he tries to bully

3927
03:16:49,840 --> 03:16:52,760
Speaker 1: the defender instead of working his feet in his hands together,

3928
03:16:52,760 --> 03:16:55,000
Speaker 1: because you tend to see him get called for holding

3929
03:16:55,080 --> 03:16:57,920
Speaker 1: penalis and stuff like that. He's more of a catcher

3930
03:16:58,040 --> 03:17:00,480
Speaker 1: than a strike or a punch. He kind of lets

3931
03:17:00,480 --> 03:17:02,520
Speaker 1: the defender get close and then he grabs and throws

3932
03:17:02,600 --> 03:17:04,600
Speaker 1: him to the ground. And the two games I studied

3933
03:17:05,560 --> 03:17:08,640
Speaker 1: was Ohio State. Okay, he had three holding calls against him,

3934
03:17:08,680 --> 03:17:10,959
Speaker 1: and you just got rid of a guard that has

3935
03:17:11,040 --> 03:17:14,360
Speaker 1: holding calls against him. But this guy is much much bigger.

3936
03:17:14,760 --> 03:17:17,279
Speaker 1: He's gonna come off the ball with good initial quickness.

3937
03:17:17,360 --> 03:17:19,360
Speaker 1: He tends to wait for the defender to kind of

3938
03:17:19,360 --> 03:17:20,760
Speaker 1: get to him, and then he'll, like could say, he'll

3939
03:17:20,800 --> 03:17:23,560
Speaker 1: try and he'll work that guy wide and push him

3940
03:17:23,560 --> 03:17:26,440
Speaker 1: past the quarterback. But I mean, this is a This

3941
03:17:26,560 --> 03:17:28,160
Speaker 1: is guys could get some move in the running game

3942
03:17:28,160 --> 03:17:30,000
Speaker 1: because he's a big man and he's got some power

3943
03:17:30,080 --> 03:17:33,600
Speaker 1: to him. So play off of your penalties. Sixteen combined

3944
03:17:33,680 --> 03:17:36,680
Speaker 1: penalties in twenty twenty one, twelve of those were holding calls.

3945
03:17:37,680 --> 03:17:39,320
Speaker 1: Good thing the Cowboys didn't have a problem with that

3946
03:17:39,400 --> 03:17:42,160
Speaker 1: last year. By the way, this has to be quarterback here, right,

3947
03:17:42,400 --> 03:17:45,440
Speaker 1: This is will the first quarterback. There's another team that

3948
03:17:45,560 --> 03:17:47,320
Speaker 1: sits there and just lets the board come to them

3949
03:17:47,360 --> 03:17:49,800
Speaker 1: and they just get players Willis. Willis was the guy

3950
03:17:49,840 --> 03:17:53,160
Speaker 1: who was most strongly linked to them during this process.

3951
03:17:54,080 --> 03:17:56,760
Speaker 1: Port Kenny Pickett, who didn't I wouldn't wouldn't have to move.

3952
03:17:56,840 --> 03:17:59,600
Speaker 1: He's got a walker already. Harris, who let's see who

3953
03:17:59,720 --> 03:18:02,200
Speaker 1: JAREMYA had them taking. How did you guys have as

3954
03:18:02,240 --> 03:18:05,360
Speaker 1: your top quarterback? Pick it for me? Pick it Corral.

3955
03:18:07,320 --> 03:18:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean it's funny because, like I don't think in

3956
03:18:09,760 --> 03:18:12,640
Speaker 1: terms of being able to play right now, I would

3957
03:18:12,680 --> 03:18:15,200
Speaker 1: not pick Willis, But in terms of upside, I absolutely

3958
03:18:15,240 --> 03:18:17,040
Speaker 1: would like He's probably the one I would be most

3959
03:18:17,080 --> 03:18:20,879
Speaker 1: intrigued to draft but not play. In twenty twenty two,

3960
03:18:21,800 --> 03:18:25,039
Speaker 1: Rager mocked Willis, Danberg learned Daniels Jeremiah mocked to pick

3961
03:18:25,080 --> 03:18:28,720
Speaker 1: it here. This has to be quarterback with the Pittsburgh

3962
03:18:28,720 --> 03:18:31,760
Speaker 1: Steelers in the clock at twenty then New England at

3963
03:18:31,840 --> 03:18:34,080
Speaker 1: twenty one. I could be the linebacker right there. I

3964
03:18:34,200 --> 03:18:37,000
Speaker 1: want Tomlin. I want Tomlin to do like real Pittsburgh

3965
03:18:37,040 --> 03:18:39,520
Speaker 1: stuff and just take Lloyd or Dean like, screw you, guys,

3966
03:18:39,560 --> 03:18:41,640
Speaker 1: We'll make it work. We're gonna win every game thirteen

3967
03:18:41,680 --> 03:18:44,400
Speaker 1: to ten. Got Miles Jack here, got T J. Watt,

3968
03:18:44,720 --> 03:18:48,000
Speaker 1: got Cameron Hayward, Packers and the make of Fitzpatrick. Yeah,

3969
03:18:48,000 --> 03:18:49,920
Speaker 1: we're just gonna win every game seventeen thirteen. Then the

3970
03:18:49,959 --> 03:18:55,520
Speaker 1: Packers at twenty two, Baltimore at twenty three, Cowboys at

3971
03:18:55,560 --> 03:18:58,120
Speaker 1: twenty four. As the pick is getting ready to come

3972
03:18:58,200 --> 03:18:59,840
Speaker 1: up here to the podium, let's see if this is

3973
03:18:59,879 --> 03:19:03,320
Speaker 1: the first quarterback taken of the twenty twenty two draft

3974
03:19:03,680 --> 03:19:06,800
Speaker 1: with Roger Goodell? Is that is that Franco joined by

3975
03:19:06,879 --> 03:19:09,040
Speaker 1: Lowell Frank, I think he does it. I think he

3976
03:19:09,120 --> 03:19:11,280
Speaker 1: does it every year for these guys. Okay, here we go.

3977
03:19:14,720 --> 03:19:19,800
Speaker 1: Franco season marks of one of the most memorable moments

3978
03:19:20,000 --> 03:19:24,440
Speaker 1: in NFL history incomplete. During the final seconds of the

3979
03:19:24,600 --> 03:19:30,039
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two AFC Divisional Game, Franco Harris made an

3980
03:19:30,120 --> 03:19:36,920
Speaker 1: improbable catch known as the Immaculate Reception. He here with

3981
03:19:37,080 --> 03:19:41,560
Speaker 1: us tonight to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of that moment

3982
03:19:42,160 --> 03:19:46,600
Speaker 1: and to announce the pick for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Please

3983
03:19:46,680 --> 03:19:50,640
Speaker 1: welcome Pro Football Hall of Famer Franko. Hairs. I can't

3984
03:19:50,680 --> 03:19:56,720
Speaker 1: wait to hear what this reaction wasn't seeing the name here? Okay,

3985
03:19:56,920 --> 03:20:02,360
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, hello, it's big it this is graz

3986
03:20:03,959 --> 03:20:07,400
Speaker 1: I love this. I love home. Okay, with the twentieth

3987
03:20:07,560 --> 03:20:14,519
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Chillers.

3988
03:20:16,080 --> 03:20:24,560
Speaker 1: So look, Kenny pick willis no pressure, kid, It's just

3989
03:20:24,800 --> 03:20:27,840
Speaker 1: your hometown expecting you to be the quarterback of the future.

3990
03:20:28,000 --> 03:20:31,000
Speaker 1: Kenny pick It, the first quarterback at number twenty to

3991
03:20:31,120 --> 03:20:34,600
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. We are getting closer. The Patriots are

3992
03:20:34,640 --> 03:20:36,920
Speaker 1: on the clock and the Cowboys are coming up at

3993
03:20:36,959 --> 03:20:39,560
Speaker 1: twenty four. This is the twenty twenty two NFL Draft.

3994
03:20:39,640 --> 03:20:40,920
Speaker 1: On one oh five to be the fan in the

3995
03:20:41,040 --> 03:20:53,560
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. Kenny pick It, Yes, he can

3996
03:20:54,879 --> 03:20:59,000
Speaker 1: boy those hands cold Weather City. Oh good point. That's

3997
03:20:59,040 --> 03:21:02,760
Speaker 1: ballas the class. But they figured out, they figured out

3998
03:21:02,840 --> 03:21:05,000
Speaker 1: he could play. But like you said, this guy is

3999
03:21:05,600 --> 03:21:07,360
Speaker 1: like I say when you watch him play, He's got

4000
03:21:07,440 --> 03:21:09,960
Speaker 1: the two gloves like Teddy Bridgewater plays with, you know,

4001
03:21:10,120 --> 03:21:13,320
Speaker 1: and the mobility and the awareness in the pocket, the

4002
03:21:13,480 --> 03:21:16,600
Speaker 1: athletic ability he's got. Feel he could see the rush.

4003
03:21:17,320 --> 03:21:19,640
Speaker 1: He can move where he gives himself the best chance

4004
03:21:19,720 --> 03:21:22,520
Speaker 1: to deliver the ball. He never appears to be throwing

4005
03:21:22,560 --> 03:21:25,120
Speaker 1: the ball with his feet set, which is kind of funny.

4006
03:21:25,160 --> 03:21:27,879
Speaker 1: He kind of dances around a little bit in the pocket,

4007
03:21:28,000 --> 03:21:30,760
Speaker 1: but his arm strength allows him to get away with it.

4008
03:21:30,800 --> 03:21:32,880
Speaker 1: I think this guy can make all the throws easily,

4009
03:21:32,959 --> 03:21:35,320
Speaker 1: and I also see a guy that shows no fear

4010
03:21:35,400 --> 03:21:37,240
Speaker 1: when it comes to delivering the ball. He's my only

4011
03:21:37,280 --> 03:21:40,560
Speaker 1: first round quarterback that I had, so I like him

4012
03:21:40,560 --> 03:21:42,760
Speaker 1: a lot more than I guess others in this room.

4013
03:21:42,800 --> 03:21:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean, but there's times when you see him throw

4014
03:21:44,840 --> 03:21:46,880
Speaker 1: across his body or throwing the middle of the field,

4015
03:21:46,920 --> 03:21:49,600
Speaker 1: but the vision and he sees how the defense is

4016
03:21:49,600 --> 03:21:51,960
Speaker 1: playing him to find the open man. His eyes always

4017
03:21:52,000 --> 03:21:55,080
Speaker 1: appear up and down the field. So I really like

4018
03:21:55,240 --> 03:21:56,880
Speaker 1: this guy how he can avoid and spin out of

4019
03:21:56,920 --> 03:21:59,000
Speaker 1: trouble when he needs to do that. This is a

4020
03:21:59,040 --> 03:22:02,480
Speaker 1: guy who really Lee rose, not during the draft process,

4021
03:22:02,520 --> 03:22:05,480
Speaker 1: but really rose from twenty twenty to twenty twenty one.

4022
03:22:05,520 --> 03:22:07,240
Speaker 1: This is a guy that like talking to people around

4023
03:22:07,240 --> 03:22:09,040
Speaker 1: the NFL like he was not on the radar as

4024
03:22:09,040 --> 03:22:11,800
Speaker 1: a first round pick. Not quite the same degree as Burrow,

4025
03:22:11,879 --> 03:22:13,960
Speaker 1: but like a similar situation. Yeah, Like you talk to

4026
03:22:14,000 --> 03:22:16,880
Speaker 1: anybody before this past season, they were like different guy

4027
03:22:17,560 --> 03:22:19,360
Speaker 1: came in played this season, was a different guy than

4028
03:22:19,400 --> 03:22:21,840
Speaker 1: people had seen on tape. And so I mean this

4029
03:22:21,920 --> 03:22:25,000
Speaker 1: is somebody who really genuinely like made the most of

4030
03:22:25,400 --> 03:22:28,240
Speaker 1: his senior season here and really rose up. Now. I

4031
03:22:28,320 --> 03:22:30,160
Speaker 1: want to put it on the record as well, along

4032
03:22:30,240 --> 03:22:32,880
Speaker 1: with broad Us in talking about if there was a

4033
03:22:32,959 --> 03:22:35,680
Speaker 1: first round quarterback, this would have been the guy for me.

4034
03:22:36,080 --> 03:22:39,920
Speaker 1: And you look at the situation that he's going into there,

4035
03:22:40,000 --> 03:22:43,360
Speaker 1: it's a completely new wide receiver room that he's gonna

4036
03:22:43,360 --> 03:22:46,119
Speaker 1: have to deal with. Of course, no Juju Smith Schuster anymore.

4037
03:22:46,240 --> 03:22:49,120
Speaker 1: They do have Chase Claypool. He has some targets to

4038
03:22:49,200 --> 03:22:52,119
Speaker 1: throw the football too. But I still think this system

4039
03:22:52,640 --> 03:22:54,480
Speaker 1: in that town, of course, that he's very much so

4040
03:22:54,600 --> 03:22:57,720
Speaker 1: accustomed to, I think he's gonna have some success even

4041
03:22:57,760 --> 03:22:59,600
Speaker 1: in the early parts of his career. Yeah, there's gonna

4042
03:22:59,600 --> 03:23:02,240
Speaker 1: be at a learning curve. But it's a different type

4043
03:23:02,280 --> 03:23:04,920
Speaker 1: of learning curve because he's going to see playing time

4044
03:23:04,920 --> 03:23:07,600
Speaker 1: pretty much immediately. He won't have to sit behind well

4045
03:23:07,640 --> 03:23:09,920
Speaker 1: he was starter and move forward. They got the bridge

4046
03:23:09,959 --> 03:23:13,360
Speaker 1: in Trubisky. We don't forget about Trusty. So Trubisky will

4047
03:23:13,360 --> 03:23:16,280
Speaker 1: play there first and then pick Itt can sit there.

4048
03:23:16,520 --> 03:23:18,600
Speaker 1: And Chill brought us who did your name? Is? The

4049
03:23:18,640 --> 03:23:21,400
Speaker 1: aggressive teams? I said, the Saints? Who else did you name?

4050
03:23:22,720 --> 03:23:24,440
Speaker 1: I think Kansas City coming from the bottom of the

4051
03:23:24,480 --> 03:23:27,840
Speaker 1: board too, and the Kansas City Chiefs all right, yeah,

4052
03:23:28,000 --> 03:23:30,040
Speaker 1: New England has traded back, So who are they coming

4053
03:23:30,120 --> 03:23:32,640
Speaker 1: up for? Because I mean they needed a receiver, but

4054
03:23:32,720 --> 03:23:36,520
Speaker 1: what receivers are left? They could be getting George Karloft

4055
03:23:36,560 --> 03:23:39,360
Speaker 1: this year too. So Albert Brier had a note in

4056
03:23:39,440 --> 03:23:41,640
Speaker 1: his thing today that He's and Arizona traded out of

4057
03:23:41,640 --> 03:23:43,400
Speaker 1: the first round. He said Arizona was trying to trade back,

4058
03:23:43,400 --> 03:23:45,320
Speaker 1: and if they traded back, he said he thought there

4059
03:23:45,360 --> 03:23:47,720
Speaker 1: was a chance that karloftas fell completely out of the

4060
03:23:47,760 --> 03:23:50,120
Speaker 1: first round because Arizona was the only place that he

4061
03:23:50,200 --> 03:23:52,040
Speaker 1: might go. I saw that too, and said he's heard

4062
03:23:52,080 --> 03:23:54,039
Speaker 1: that like some teams around the league have karloftis as

4063
03:23:54,080 --> 03:23:57,440
Speaker 1: a fourth rounder, Oh wow, which I think is nuts

4064
03:23:57,520 --> 03:24:00,440
Speaker 1: to me. There's people, there's people that will argue that

4065
03:24:00,640 --> 03:24:03,840
Speaker 1: he is maybe he is what he is, which is well,

4066
03:24:04,000 --> 03:24:06,440
Speaker 1: just like you know, like it was like a good

4067
03:24:06,520 --> 03:24:09,640
Speaker 1: steady player that can't there's no what is it, Dave.

4068
03:24:11,680 --> 03:24:13,600
Speaker 1: He ain't twitchy, he doesn't have a high ceiling like,

4069
03:24:13,879 --> 03:24:18,480
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna blossom into a double digit solid Yeah, yeah, solid,

4070
03:24:18,600 --> 03:24:21,560
Speaker 1: the very dependable player. He's been playing football since he

4071
03:24:21,680 --> 03:24:23,880
Speaker 1: was like fifteen, that's when he started playing football. I

4072
03:24:23,879 --> 03:24:25,360
Speaker 1: just think it's od that people go always hit the ceiling.

4073
03:24:25,400 --> 03:24:27,080
Speaker 1: You don't want to started playing football five years ago.

4074
03:24:27,320 --> 03:24:31,720
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the athletic traits. Could be right? Could

4075
03:24:31,720 --> 03:24:33,880
Speaker 1: this be for George Pickens. They always kind of like

4076
03:24:34,040 --> 03:24:38,120
Speaker 1: they liked those those Georgia players from receiver. Right here

4077
03:24:38,160 --> 03:24:40,920
Speaker 1: we go, Kansas City on the clock, coming back to

4078
03:24:41,000 --> 03:24:54,880
Speaker 1: the radio side. We got more movement. Vegas set the

4079
03:24:55,000 --> 03:24:57,640
Speaker 1: over under drafts in the first round at three and

4080
03:24:57,720 --> 03:25:01,680
Speaker 1: a half. The Kansas City Chiefs have Jess moved up. Now.

4081
03:25:01,720 --> 03:25:05,440
Speaker 1: A lot of the talk was gonna be replacing Tyree Hill. Yeah,

4082
03:25:05,480 --> 03:25:09,200
Speaker 1: making sure Pat Mahomes has weapons. Cowboys are at twenty four.

4083
03:25:09,640 --> 03:25:11,879
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Brian brought us on the clock right now

4084
03:25:11,920 --> 03:25:14,200
Speaker 1: at twenty one. Yeah, this New England moves back. Yeah,

4085
03:25:14,280 --> 03:25:16,800
Speaker 1: and again this is everybody was kind of talking about

4086
03:25:16,879 --> 03:25:20,480
Speaker 1: Green Bay needing receivers. There's another team. Everybody's talking green Bay,

4087
03:25:20,560 --> 03:25:23,039
Speaker 1: Green Bay. You know, if you look at and again

4088
03:25:23,160 --> 03:25:25,760
Speaker 1: landon Zerline, I'm talking to him again or about him.

4089
03:25:26,200 --> 03:25:29,760
Speaker 1: He had Kansas City trading ahead of Dallas for Chris

4090
03:25:29,840 --> 03:25:31,680
Speaker 1: a Lobby coming down the board. This was a couple

4091
03:25:31,720 --> 03:25:34,600
Speaker 1: of weeks ago on his mock draft. So now everybody,

4092
03:25:34,800 --> 03:25:37,959
Speaker 1: it looks like the next receiver could be at Green

4093
03:25:38,040 --> 03:25:40,160
Speaker 1: Bay if in fact, you know, because they were talking

4094
03:25:40,160 --> 03:25:42,160
Speaker 1: about a guy. They were talking about Pickens with me

4095
03:25:42,640 --> 03:25:46,400
Speaker 1: at twenty eight. Pickens is who. Yeah, he's from from Georgia,

4096
03:25:46,480 --> 03:25:49,800
Speaker 1: from Georgia. Receiver from Georgia. So we will see, I mean,

4097
03:25:49,920 --> 03:25:53,240
Speaker 1: and now maybe Green Bay's focusing now on Jermaine Johnson,

4098
03:25:53,400 --> 03:25:56,600
Speaker 1: the edge rusher from Florida State was another guy that

4099
03:25:56,680 --> 03:25:58,360
Speaker 1: I'd kind of heard about. Here we go, let's see

4100
03:25:58,360 --> 03:26:02,400
Speaker 1: who Casey moved up for. Patriots have traded the twenty

4101
03:26:02,440 --> 03:26:08,720
Speaker 1: first pick took the Candy City Chief Red. The twenty

4102
03:26:08,800 --> 03:26:13,200
Speaker 1: first pick is a twenty twenty two NFL drag. The

4103
03:26:13,360 --> 03:26:18,640
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs like Trent McDuffie, a cornerback, good player,

4104
03:26:20,040 --> 03:26:24,080
Speaker 1: good pick. Dave Hellman, I love the pick and I'm

4105
03:26:24,200 --> 03:26:27,120
Speaker 1: as a as a fellow short king I have. I

4106
03:26:27,400 --> 03:26:29,600
Speaker 1: have a lot of sympathy for guys that get overlooked.

4107
03:26:29,800 --> 03:26:32,960
Speaker 1: Only he's a damn good player and he happens to

4108
03:26:33,040 --> 03:26:36,000
Speaker 1: be five ten with shorter arms. That's that's really all

4109
03:26:36,000 --> 03:26:38,560
Speaker 1: there is to it, in my opinion. NFL teams uh

4110
03:26:38,840 --> 03:26:40,680
Speaker 1: that I talked to said like, if you need a

4111
03:26:40,760 --> 03:26:45,040
Speaker 1: plug and play like cornerback starter, get McDuffie. Like McDuffie

4112
03:26:45,120 --> 03:26:47,080
Speaker 1: is the the guy that will come in and immediately

4113
03:26:47,640 --> 03:26:50,280
Speaker 1: be a difference maker for you. Everything I've heard about him,

4114
03:26:50,320 --> 03:26:53,400
Speaker 1: he is a football fiend, like like he's grown up

4115
03:26:53,400 --> 03:26:55,959
Speaker 1: in a football family and just that's what he eats,

4116
03:26:55,959 --> 03:26:59,480
Speaker 1: sleeps and breeds and so he's Uh, the biggest thing

4117
03:26:59,560 --> 03:27:01,440
Speaker 1: is just his arms are like twenty eight inches. Let's

4118
03:27:01,680 --> 03:27:03,720
Speaker 1: let's set this up. You've got something real quick though.

4119
03:27:03,760 --> 03:27:05,879
Speaker 1: I Mean, there's people that think that maybe Kyler Gordon,

4120
03:27:06,120 --> 03:27:08,560
Speaker 1: the other corner at Washington, was a better player. There

4121
03:27:08,600 --> 03:27:10,920
Speaker 1: are teams that have Gordon above McGuffey. Yeah, all right,

4122
03:27:10,959 --> 03:27:12,840
Speaker 1: let's set this up. Now, we're a few picks away.

4123
03:27:13,240 --> 03:27:15,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys are at twenty four. Green Bays on the clock

4124
03:27:15,920 --> 03:27:18,880
Speaker 1: right now at twenty two than the Baltimore Ravens at

4125
03:27:19,000 --> 03:27:22,360
Speaker 1: twenty three, who was jumping out on y'all's board. Now

4126
03:27:22,800 --> 03:27:26,440
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, I wish that I'd spent more time

4127
03:27:26,600 --> 03:27:29,360
Speaker 1: thinking about Jermaine Johnson, because I just wrote that off

4128
03:27:29,400 --> 03:27:31,960
Speaker 1: as a possibility a long time ago. And I don't

4129
03:27:32,240 --> 03:27:36,199
Speaker 1: like the defensive end out of Florida State transferred from Georgia,

4130
03:27:36,480 --> 03:27:40,640
Speaker 1: so again another piece of that disgusting Georgia defense had

4131
03:27:40,680 --> 03:27:43,280
Speaker 1: a really at a solid season for a bad FSU team,

4132
03:27:43,560 --> 03:27:46,280
Speaker 1: kicked everybody's but at the Senior Bowl. He literally he

4133
03:27:46,600 --> 03:27:49,439
Speaker 1: So there's three practices at the Senior Bowl, he dominated

4134
03:27:49,480 --> 03:27:51,080
Speaker 1: for two days and was like, peace, I'm out. I

4135
03:27:51,080 --> 03:27:53,520
Speaker 1: don't need to do this anymore. He's like I put

4136
03:27:53,600 --> 03:27:55,760
Speaker 1: in my tape, I'm not staying for a third days.

4137
03:27:56,160 --> 03:28:01,040
Speaker 1: He also he banged up, isn't either, No, no, But

4138
03:28:01,240 --> 03:28:04,280
Speaker 1: like I know specifically, the Cowboys really impressed with him

4139
03:28:04,320 --> 03:28:06,960
Speaker 1: in Mobile. Yeah, I have no idea if they like

4140
03:28:07,120 --> 03:28:08,840
Speaker 1: him enough to take him over some of the names.

4141
03:28:09,040 --> 03:28:10,520
Speaker 1: I don't either. Clearly the rest of the league doesn't

4142
03:28:10,520 --> 03:28:12,840
Speaker 1: like him as much as we thought. Yeah, who else, Bobby?

4143
03:28:13,440 --> 03:28:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're looking I think this is

4144
03:28:15,240 --> 03:28:18,240
Speaker 1: setting up for potentially Tyler Smith, the tackle from also that.

4145
03:28:18,480 --> 03:28:20,720
Speaker 1: But I mean, if you're looking at other names, Nakobe Dean,

4146
03:28:21,160 --> 03:28:22,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how much do they like, Dax Hill,

4147
03:28:22,760 --> 03:28:26,039
Speaker 1: the safety from Michigan. I still talk about Devin Lloyd

4148
03:28:26,120 --> 03:28:28,200
Speaker 1: though from Utah myself. If you tell me I can

4149
03:28:28,280 --> 03:28:30,879
Speaker 1: maybe get the next Michael Parsons at linebacker to pair

4150
03:28:30,959 --> 03:28:34,080
Speaker 1: with Michael Parsons. Who about that? So tell me a

4151
03:28:34,120 --> 03:28:36,520
Speaker 1: little bit more about that and his game? Yeah? No,

4152
03:28:36,640 --> 03:28:38,800
Speaker 1: I mean this guy's six threes, two hundred and thirty,

4153
03:28:38,959 --> 03:28:41,080
Speaker 1: like seven pounds and stuff like that. I mean he's

4154
03:28:41,120 --> 03:28:44,360
Speaker 1: a great finisher, he gets, he's an outstanding tackler. He

4155
03:28:44,480 --> 03:28:46,960
Speaker 1: could blitz. He tackles well in the open space. He

4156
03:28:47,080 --> 03:28:50,320
Speaker 1: probably covers better than Michael Parsons. You could watch him play.

4157
03:28:50,360 --> 03:28:52,959
Speaker 1: He gets in throwing lanes, he gets interceptions, he knocks

4158
03:28:53,000 --> 03:28:57,560
Speaker 1: balls down pass rush. Yeah yeah, it's seven sacks. So yeah.

4159
03:28:57,640 --> 03:28:59,720
Speaker 1: I mean the people talking about this, I don't know

4160
03:28:59,760 --> 03:29:02,240
Speaker 1: if I also do it, but me personally, if you're

4161
03:29:02,280 --> 03:29:05,279
Speaker 1: starting to talk about some of these other guys, Tyler Lindenbaum,

4162
03:29:05,320 --> 03:29:07,000
Speaker 1: I know I'm not gonna get now. I put him

4163
03:29:07,040 --> 03:29:09,359
Speaker 1: on the board where I would take him Dallas Cowboys

4164
03:29:09,400 --> 03:29:11,160
Speaker 1: probably don't agree with me on that at all. I

4165
03:29:11,240 --> 03:29:12,920
Speaker 1: don't think it's out of the question because you look

4166
03:29:12,959 --> 03:29:15,320
Speaker 1: at some of the guys they've had conversations with. They

4167
03:29:15,400 --> 03:29:18,080
Speaker 1: had Devin Lloyd in as a thirty visit. It's known

4168
03:29:18,120 --> 03:29:20,240
Speaker 1: that Kay Walker was here on a thirty visit. They

4169
03:29:20,320 --> 03:29:23,800
Speaker 1: met with Christian Harris at the combine. They've had opportunities

4170
03:29:23,879 --> 03:29:27,960
Speaker 1: with these top four, top five linebackers to have these conversations.

4171
03:29:28,240 --> 03:29:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. I think Devin Lloyd is

4172
03:29:30,240 --> 03:29:33,400
Speaker 1: certainly a potential here. You've got Dean and Lloyd as

4173
03:29:33,440 --> 03:29:36,920
Speaker 1: the two linebackers that are possibilities, Linderbaum and Smith as

4174
03:29:37,000 --> 03:29:39,640
Speaker 1: offensive line, and then you've got Karloftis and Johnson. As

4175
03:29:39,680 --> 03:29:41,320
Speaker 1: we enter this twenty second time, I don't know what

4176
03:29:41,480 --> 03:29:44,000
Speaker 1: just happened, but there they cut to war room cam

4177
03:29:44,080 --> 03:29:46,879
Speaker 1: and somebody said something and Steven went big fist pump.

4178
03:29:47,240 --> 03:29:50,360
Speaker 1: So Stephen was happy about something. Well, keeping every team

4179
03:29:50,400 --> 03:29:53,520
Speaker 1: in the league is happy about every decision they make. Well,

4180
03:29:53,600 --> 03:29:56,360
Speaker 1: but I don't, But I mean I think they must.

4181
03:29:56,520 --> 03:29:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if they know green base pick here

4182
03:29:58,080 --> 03:30:00,040
Speaker 1: or Baltimore's, but I think they're happy about who of

4183
03:30:00,080 --> 03:30:04,320
Speaker 1: her because the picks in the NFL world are in

4184
03:30:04,600 --> 03:30:07,920
Speaker 1: they like it hasn't been announced. I'm not Dallas's pick,

4185
03:30:08,040 --> 03:30:10,200
Speaker 1: but like that, I mean they could be. We could

4186
03:30:10,240 --> 03:30:12,000
Speaker 1: be as many as like a pick. Here's a war

4187
03:30:12,080 --> 03:30:14,560
Speaker 1: room camera behind. I want to see. I want to

4188
03:30:14,600 --> 03:30:16,400
Speaker 1: see who Green Bay picks here and if we can

4189
03:30:17,280 --> 03:30:20,120
Speaker 1: figure anything from that. With the fist pump, were you

4190
03:30:20,200 --> 03:30:23,360
Speaker 1: guys thinking about, well, here comes Roger Goodell at the

4191
03:30:23,480 --> 03:30:26,440
Speaker 1: podium with the Packers selection. As we get closer with

4192
03:30:26,480 --> 03:30:31,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys at twenty four In the twenty two NFL Draft,

4193
03:30:32,760 --> 03:30:41,600
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers great Walker Georgia. So no offensive

4194
03:30:41,640 --> 03:30:45,400
Speaker 1: player again for mister Rogers, first linebacker off the board.

4195
03:30:45,480 --> 03:30:48,040
Speaker 1: That's it's funny, you we We've talked about that with

4196
03:30:48,080 --> 03:30:52,080
Speaker 1: a few guys, but quay Walker was like a fringe

4197
03:30:52,200 --> 03:30:54,360
Speaker 1: name for most of this cycle, and within the last

4198
03:30:54,400 --> 03:30:57,160
Speaker 1: two weeks exploded. He just had this surge where everybody

4199
03:30:57,280 --> 03:30:59,560
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, he'll probably be the first linebacker taken.

4200
03:31:00,600 --> 03:31:02,800
Speaker 1: So him a lot across the way too. So but

4201
03:31:02,879 --> 03:31:05,160
Speaker 1: if we see a fist pump, there's that any indication

4202
03:31:05,240 --> 03:31:07,560
Speaker 1: of oh, they took a linebacker, but it wasn't ours

4203
03:31:09,200 --> 03:31:11,000
Speaker 1: or I think it could be just took a player

4204
03:31:11,840 --> 03:31:15,960
Speaker 1: that you know, they weren't looking at linebacker. Uh, go ahead, Dave,

4205
03:31:16,640 --> 03:31:18,880
Speaker 1: I just what's up. We just had a trade. Baltimore

4206
03:31:19,080 --> 03:31:22,840
Speaker 1: went back, Buffalo leap frog Dallas. What does Buffalo think

4207
03:31:22,920 --> 03:31:26,440
Speaker 1: Dallas needs? So it's a good question. So Buffalo is

4208
03:31:26,480 --> 03:31:29,080
Speaker 1: on the clock at twenty three. Yeah, yeah, they just

4209
03:31:29,160 --> 03:31:32,960
Speaker 1: flipped Baltimore went back. That's that's the pick. That's the

4210
03:31:33,000 --> 03:31:36,360
Speaker 1: pick they took from Arizona. I love Hollywood Brown. Can

4211
03:31:36,440 --> 03:31:39,000
Speaker 1: I just gush about the Ravens for one more time,

4212
03:31:39,400 --> 03:31:41,880
Speaker 1: Like we gave them crap because they missed Jordan Davis.

4213
03:31:42,240 --> 03:31:45,000
Speaker 1: And what do they wind up doing? Drafting Kyle Hamilton

4214
03:31:45,080 --> 03:31:48,920
Speaker 1: at fourteen? They traded Hollywood for a first? Did they

4215
03:31:49,160 --> 03:31:50,520
Speaker 1: Did they get a first? No, they got like pick

4216
03:31:50,600 --> 03:31:52,760
Speaker 1: one hundred for him. I thought it was pick one

4217
03:31:52,840 --> 03:31:56,160
Speaker 1: hundred in Hollywood for twenty three. Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

4218
03:31:56,160 --> 03:31:57,960
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm you're right. I'm sorry. Yeah, they got

4219
03:31:58,000 --> 03:32:01,119
Speaker 1: a first for Hollywood and then turned this into whatever it's.

4220
03:32:01,160 --> 03:32:03,160
Speaker 1: It's so they've probably added a ton of capital on

4221
03:32:03,240 --> 03:32:06,440
Speaker 1: top of already having Kyle Hamilton. Bills go twenty five

4222
03:32:06,520 --> 03:32:09,160
Speaker 1: and one thirty for twenty three. But I'm gonna use

4223
03:32:09,240 --> 03:32:11,240
Speaker 1: the war room cam to cheat here a little bit.

4224
03:32:11,280 --> 03:32:13,720
Speaker 1: I didn't see the fist pumping question from Bobby Belt,

4225
03:32:14,080 --> 03:32:16,680
Speaker 1: but that that tells me I don't have to hold

4226
03:32:16,720 --> 03:32:19,840
Speaker 1: my breath here that they that they think Buffalo is

4227
03:32:19,879 --> 03:32:22,320
Speaker 1: going to steal someone from them, because yeah, because that

4228
03:32:22,600 --> 03:32:24,320
Speaker 1: could have been news that they got. The Buffalo went

4229
03:32:24,400 --> 03:32:25,680
Speaker 1: up and they were like, oh, we feel better knowing

4230
03:32:25,720 --> 03:32:28,120
Speaker 1: Baltimore's not picking in front of us. So what are

4231
03:32:28,160 --> 03:32:30,360
Speaker 1: we thinking now? Brian brought us. We got Steven on

4232
03:32:30,400 --> 03:32:33,879
Speaker 1: the phone. Maybe he's talking. Maybe, I don't know. That's

4233
03:32:33,920 --> 03:32:36,720
Speaker 1: the thing I'm kind of was anyone thinking about trading

4234
03:32:36,800 --> 03:32:41,640
Speaker 1: back in the last five minutes, I would think about it, Yeah,

4235
03:32:42,000 --> 03:32:44,080
Speaker 1: I mean I would if somebody wanted to, if somebody

4236
03:32:44,120 --> 03:32:46,640
Speaker 1: called me, I would that there teams are moving, so

4237
03:32:46,840 --> 03:32:49,080
Speaker 1: he's are dealing. This is they're talking to a team

4238
03:32:49,080 --> 03:32:51,080
Speaker 1: because Steven's got his little pen out and it looks

4239
03:32:51,080 --> 03:32:53,560
Speaker 1: like he's telling Jerry would probably be on the phone

4240
03:32:53,560 --> 03:32:56,400
Speaker 1: with the player. I mean, you're sitting here right Jerry's

4241
03:32:56,640 --> 03:32:59,359
Speaker 1: nobody's celebrating. So this isn't a pick. This is definitely

4242
03:32:59,440 --> 03:33:02,080
Speaker 1: a conversation. We think they like Tyler Smith, but we

4243
03:33:02,120 --> 03:33:04,840
Speaker 1: don't think that he's just like our guy. He's not.

4244
03:33:05,640 --> 03:33:07,800
Speaker 1: They think about him in the second round. I mean,

4245
03:33:07,879 --> 03:33:10,320
Speaker 1: that's the thing that we keep talking about. I think

4246
03:33:10,320 --> 03:33:11,440
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys that went ahead of them

4247
03:33:11,480 --> 03:33:12,960
Speaker 1: they thought, well, no, that that's what we're talking I mean,

4248
03:33:13,120 --> 03:33:14,920
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're talking about right now, is

4249
03:33:15,000 --> 03:33:17,120
Speaker 1: maybe that they feel like that, you know, hey, if

4250
03:33:17,160 --> 03:33:18,480
Speaker 1: we grabbed this guy, I mean, if we can move

4251
03:33:18,520 --> 03:33:20,760
Speaker 1: down a little bit further and pick something else up,

4252
03:33:21,080 --> 03:33:23,200
Speaker 1: it might soften the blow a little bit. All right,

4253
03:33:23,240 --> 03:33:26,360
Speaker 1: Let's let's think about some scenarios and let's get out

4254
03:33:26,400 --> 03:33:27,880
Speaker 1: of here real quick to come back and make sure

4255
03:33:27,920 --> 03:33:29,600
Speaker 1: we don't miss anything. The Bills are on the clock.

4256
03:33:29,800 --> 03:33:33,200
Speaker 1: Then the Cowboys are up next. Don't go anywhere. It's

4257
03:33:33,240 --> 03:33:35,600
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft on one oh five

4258
03:33:35,640 --> 03:33:43,000
Speaker 1: to the fan and the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. All right, y'all,

4259
03:33:43,320 --> 03:33:45,640
Speaker 1: let's brainstorm. What are you looking at, Dave? What are

4260
03:33:45,640 --> 03:33:47,360
Speaker 1: you thinking? I mean, if I don't think they like

4261
03:33:47,480 --> 03:33:48,960
Speaker 1: any of the guys that I've gone on my board,

4262
03:33:49,000 --> 03:33:51,520
Speaker 1: who's trying to come up? If they were, well, somebody

4263
03:33:51,560 --> 03:33:54,360
Speaker 1: that wants a linebacker. That's what I'm thinking. Maybe, like

4264
03:33:54,440 --> 03:33:58,400
Speaker 1: if maybe, if somebody loves Devin Lloyd or Rush, there's

4265
03:33:58,440 --> 03:34:02,160
Speaker 1: two of them right there. Okay, so right now Buffalo

4266
03:34:02,760 --> 03:34:05,520
Speaker 1: is on the clock to answer your question, Sean, Like,

4267
03:34:05,800 --> 03:34:07,440
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what I asked. Well, I mean,

4268
03:34:07,600 --> 03:34:10,240
Speaker 1: if they could jump back somewhere between like two and

4269
03:34:10,959 --> 03:34:13,960
Speaker 1: six spots. It doesn't even we did this in our

4270
03:34:14,040 --> 03:34:16,880
Speaker 1: mock on Tuesday, Like, you're not gonna get crazy good compensation.

4271
03:34:17,000 --> 03:34:22,040
Speaker 1: What did we add in that trade? We added We

4272
03:34:22,040 --> 03:34:25,080
Speaker 1: added a fourth and a sixth. But I think, like

4273
03:34:25,200 --> 03:34:27,240
Speaker 1: this is just to take your pick among guys that

4274
03:34:27,320 --> 03:34:29,640
Speaker 1: you probably don't love. At least that's how I feel

4275
03:34:29,640 --> 03:34:32,959
Speaker 1: about it. I think they if they took Tyler Smith,

4276
03:34:33,000 --> 03:34:34,880
Speaker 1: if they took to Kobe Dean, I think they like

4277
03:34:35,120 --> 03:34:37,880
Speaker 1: those players. Is that their dream scenario when they head

4278
03:34:37,920 --> 03:34:39,840
Speaker 1: into the state. No, it wasn't. But I mean, I

4279
03:34:40,080 --> 03:34:42,440
Speaker 1: think they'd be happy with coming out of here with

4280
03:34:42,520 --> 03:34:45,520
Speaker 1: those players and not having to give up capital. No,

4281
03:34:46,080 --> 03:34:49,200
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, but you can gain capital and chios. Lay,

4282
03:34:49,320 --> 03:34:51,280
Speaker 1: Can I ask a question, then, do you feel like

4283
03:34:51,320 --> 03:34:55,279
Speaker 1: they're wiped out? Yeah? From the guys, they really coveted.

4284
03:34:55,400 --> 03:34:58,640
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, this is why you would take it

4285
03:34:58,760 --> 03:35:00,840
Speaker 1: to them, they would take I mean yeah, I mean

4286
03:35:00,920 --> 03:35:03,640
Speaker 1: they know they visited Lloyd. Yeah that's what I'm seeing.

4287
03:35:03,680 --> 03:35:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I love the player myself, and I love

4288
03:35:06,640 --> 03:35:09,560
Speaker 1: Linderbomba guys like that. But they don't. They don't. They're

4289
03:35:09,600 --> 03:35:11,520
Speaker 1: not seeing this like I am. I wonder, well, I

4290
03:35:11,600 --> 03:35:13,360
Speaker 1: wonder if this is and I don't. I don't know

4291
03:35:13,400 --> 03:35:15,440
Speaker 1: how they feel about Lloyd one hundred percent, but I

4292
03:35:15,520 --> 03:35:19,200
Speaker 1: wonder if this is a situation where they like Lloyd.

4293
03:35:20,080 --> 03:35:22,120
Speaker 1: Maybe Lloyd's even the best grade on their board. But

4294
03:35:22,400 --> 03:35:25,280
Speaker 1: it's the classic like need verse best player, Like do

4295
03:35:25,440 --> 03:35:28,240
Speaker 1: you need to draft another linebacker after you just got

4296
03:35:28,360 --> 03:35:31,480
Speaker 1: Micah or tend to something that needs it a little

4297
03:35:31,480 --> 03:35:36,480
Speaker 1: bit more Based upon y'all's boards and excitement level, I'm

4298
03:35:36,760 --> 03:35:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for a move back. I'm rooting would I

4299
03:35:40,160 --> 03:35:42,880
Speaker 1: would get a lot more excited about the pick if

4300
03:35:43,120 --> 03:35:45,520
Speaker 1: if they jumped back, If they move back to thirty

4301
03:35:45,560 --> 03:35:47,360
Speaker 1: and then they picked Tyler Smith, I feel much better.

4302
03:35:47,400 --> 03:35:49,760
Speaker 1: There's nobody there's nobody on the YO. There's nobody on

4303
03:35:49,760 --> 03:35:51,680
Speaker 1: the board right now where I'm just like, he's got

4304
03:35:51,800 --> 03:35:53,680
Speaker 1: to get there. He's got to get there. Cowboys are

4305
03:35:53,720 --> 03:35:57,120
Speaker 1: on the clock because the pick is in for Buffalo, okay.

4306
03:35:57,920 --> 03:36:01,440
Speaker 1: And we were judging by Stephen on the phone that

4307
03:36:01,520 --> 03:36:03,760
Speaker 1: he was probably talking to a team and it was

4308
03:36:03,879 --> 03:36:05,360
Speaker 1: Jerry on the phone. If we go to the war

4309
03:36:05,440 --> 03:36:08,080
Speaker 1: room cam and Jerry's on there along with McCarthy, we

4310
03:36:08,240 --> 03:36:11,560
Speaker 1: usually try to find a position coach that leads us

4311
03:36:11,920 --> 03:36:14,800
Speaker 1: there we go, Stephen's still on the phone. They're talking

4312
03:36:14,840 --> 03:36:17,240
Speaker 1: to a team. It is it's trade offers coming in.

4313
03:36:17,400 --> 03:36:19,240
Speaker 1: We don't know who the teams are right now, but

4314
03:36:19,320 --> 03:36:22,520
Speaker 1: they are definitely talking to somebody. I mean, I wish

4315
03:36:22,560 --> 03:36:25,880
Speaker 1: I had more information. No position coach in the room.

4316
03:36:26,160 --> 03:36:28,959
Speaker 1: Jerry's listening, so this is this has to be Stephen

4317
03:36:29,440 --> 03:36:33,800
Speaker 1: laughing at something. They're they're talking about a team. So

4318
03:36:34,080 --> 03:36:36,400
Speaker 1: that's what we're standing right now. Any idea who does

4319
03:36:36,480 --> 03:36:38,920
Speaker 1: will have that dialing hand ready though if they can't move,

4320
03:36:38,959 --> 03:36:41,280
Speaker 1: because usually Chris Hall at the bottom right of the

4321
03:36:41,480 --> 03:36:43,440
Speaker 1: of the thing, Chris Hall will get the player on

4322
03:36:43,560 --> 03:36:46,320
Speaker 1: the phone and he hasn't moved. You see. If there's

4323
03:36:46,320 --> 03:36:48,440
Speaker 1: a gentleman with the glong hair in the glasses beard

4324
03:36:49,000 --> 03:36:52,720
Speaker 1: and so yeah, they're joking a little bit there joking

4325
03:36:52,840 --> 03:36:57,440
Speaker 1: with someone, So that doesn't seem like a serious trade negotiation. Well,

4326
03:36:57,840 --> 03:37:00,960
Speaker 1: all these guys, especially in the boys case, where your

4327
03:37:01,000 --> 03:37:03,040
Speaker 1: GM stays the same, like they've been dealing with these

4328
03:37:03,120 --> 03:37:05,720
Speaker 1: people for years. I mean they're buddies by now. Any idea.

4329
03:37:05,879 --> 03:37:09,439
Speaker 1: McCarthy doesn't look really comfortable right now though to me languages,

4330
03:37:09,480 --> 03:37:12,080
Speaker 1: Well he's pointing. It's point at will. Hey, any idea

4331
03:37:12,080 --> 03:37:14,800
Speaker 1: who Buffalo is gonna take? I don't know who they

4332
03:37:14,920 --> 03:37:16,440
Speaker 1: thought they needed to come up ahead of down It

4333
03:37:16,560 --> 03:37:18,280
Speaker 1: is right here. I guess would be a linebacker. Let's

4334
03:37:18,280 --> 03:37:22,440
Speaker 1: go to the podium. Ravens have traded the twenty third

4335
03:37:22,520 --> 03:37:27,720
Speaker 1: pick to the Buffalo Bill. With the twenty third pick

4336
03:37:27,840 --> 03:37:32,119
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty two NFL Drags, the Buffalo Bill

4337
03:37:32,240 --> 03:37:39,040
Speaker 1: select h quarter from Florida. That's a Florida good player.

4338
03:37:39,240 --> 03:37:42,039
Speaker 1: He really good player. I loved Kayer Elam tell us

4339
03:37:42,040 --> 03:37:44,119
Speaker 1: about him, kay me. I mean, like, that's a dude

4340
03:37:44,160 --> 03:37:46,400
Speaker 1: who like he gets to the ball. He will always

4341
03:37:46,400 --> 03:37:48,440
Speaker 1: get his hand on the ball. He is a really

4342
03:37:48,520 --> 03:37:50,600
Speaker 1: really good athlete. I mean he's somebody that like, I

4343
03:37:50,840 --> 03:37:53,280
Speaker 1: love him, I think, And he's a I think broadest.

4344
03:37:53,320 --> 03:37:56,000
Speaker 1: Didn't you sign his dad. Yeah, I was here with

4345
03:37:56,080 --> 03:38:01,640
Speaker 1: his dad. Yeah. Yeah, because his dad's Abram Elam. Yeah,

4346
03:38:01,720 --> 03:38:03,960
Speaker 1: the old Cowboys safety Yeah he. I'll tell you what

4347
03:38:04,120 --> 03:38:06,560
Speaker 1: this kid's he is a He is a press corner

4348
03:38:06,640 --> 03:38:08,800
Speaker 1: with every senate sense of the word. He'll get up

4349
03:38:08,800 --> 03:38:10,280
Speaker 1: on you. He's not going to give you much space.

4350
03:38:10,640 --> 03:38:13,520
Speaker 1: He could run with you. He's physical, really nice tackler

4351
03:38:13,600 --> 03:38:16,680
Speaker 1: as well. All right, So kier Elam goes to the

4352
03:38:16,760 --> 03:38:20,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, and for the time being, the Dallas Cowboys

4353
03:38:20,760 --> 03:38:24,160
Speaker 1: are on the clock, followed by the Baltimore Ravens, who

4354
03:38:24,240 --> 03:38:27,480
Speaker 1: have been very active this round. The Tennessee Titans pulling

4355
03:38:27,480 --> 03:38:29,520
Speaker 1: off a huge deal as well. Let's get ready to

4356
03:38:29,560 --> 03:38:47,439
Speaker 1: rejoin the radio side. All right, guys, your Dallas Cowboys

4357
03:38:47,520 --> 03:38:51,240
Speaker 1: are officially on the clock right now. Sean treef joined

4358
03:38:51,280 --> 03:38:55,000
Speaker 1: by Cowboys insider Bobby belt Our, lead scout Brian Brouns.

4359
03:38:55,040 --> 03:38:58,920
Speaker 1: We've got Kyle Yeoman's and David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys

4360
03:38:59,160 --> 03:39:02,280
Speaker 1: dot Com. We are a ford center at the Star.

4361
03:39:02,800 --> 03:39:05,920
Speaker 1: A cornerback just went off the board, Cayer Elam to

4362
03:39:06,080 --> 03:39:09,160
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and now we have the Cowboys sitting here.

4363
03:39:09,280 --> 03:39:12,120
Speaker 1: We've been monitoring their war room camera. It looked like

4364
03:39:12,240 --> 03:39:15,200
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones was on the phone. We were guessing it

4365
03:39:15,320 --> 03:39:17,840
Speaker 1: wasn't with a player. You would have Jerry on with

4366
03:39:17,920 --> 03:39:20,240
Speaker 1: the player, then Mike McCarthy, then a position coach in

4367
03:39:20,320 --> 03:39:23,320
Speaker 1: the room. So my guess is they're trying to work

4368
03:39:23,400 --> 03:39:26,640
Speaker 1: out a deal and no one's on the phone right now, guys,

4369
03:39:26,959 --> 03:39:29,520
Speaker 1: is a deal done? That makes me think they made

4370
03:39:29,560 --> 03:39:31,320
Speaker 1: a trade. I think they trade it back with like

4371
03:39:31,400 --> 03:39:33,800
Speaker 1: again Chris Hall in the bottom right of the phone

4372
03:39:34,080 --> 03:39:37,560
Speaker 1: when they pick up picking up the phone again. So

4373
03:39:37,800 --> 03:39:41,360
Speaker 1: they're trying to take this five minutes to execute. Okay, well,

4374
03:39:41,400 --> 03:39:43,520
Speaker 1: Will's about Okay, Will and Chris with the two you

4375
03:39:43,680 --> 03:39:46,160
Speaker 1: need to watch and yeah, what Will's the phone calling.

4376
03:39:46,200 --> 03:39:48,360
Speaker 1: Will's the guy that talks to the player first, so

4377
03:39:48,480 --> 03:39:50,680
Speaker 1: he's the guy to watch. I'm hearing Tennessee is a

4378
03:39:50,760 --> 03:39:53,040
Speaker 1: potential trade back target. I don't know if that's who

4379
03:39:53,080 --> 03:39:54,959
Speaker 1: they're on the phone with now. And there's probably multiple

4380
03:39:55,000 --> 03:39:56,600
Speaker 1: teams in there, but I know the Titans that pick

4381
03:39:56,720 --> 03:39:59,840
Speaker 1: number twenty six could be one where they might be

4382
03:40:00,200 --> 03:40:03,840
Speaker 1: having some conversations. However, like I said, that's not that's

4383
03:40:03,879 --> 03:40:06,400
Speaker 1: probably one of multiple teams. Because we've seen Steven picked

4384
03:40:06,440 --> 03:40:08,480
Speaker 1: up the phone on multiple occasions. We'll put his hand

4385
03:40:08,480 --> 03:40:11,080
Speaker 1: on phone then took it off. Who's left on the

4386
03:40:11,160 --> 03:40:14,080
Speaker 1: board if they make the pick, I'll bet you five

4387
03:40:14,160 --> 03:40:16,160
Speaker 1: dollars it's Tyler. I think Tyler Smith would be the

4388
03:40:16,200 --> 03:40:19,800
Speaker 1: guy if they picked here, offensive lineman Tulsa and his

4389
03:40:20,360 --> 03:40:24,000
Speaker 1: position and potential a tackle that they would probably play

4390
03:40:24,000 --> 03:40:26,680
Speaker 1: at the at the left guard spot. He's with an

4391
03:40:26,760 --> 03:40:29,040
Speaker 1: eye on maybe moving him to tackle at some point

4392
03:40:29,080 --> 03:40:31,039
Speaker 1: in his career. Yeah, depending on how he's a Really

4393
03:40:31,120 --> 03:40:33,360
Speaker 1: he's a raw player, but he's big, he's powerful, He's

4394
03:40:33,360 --> 03:40:38,080
Speaker 1: a really good athlete. Anyone else not if they pick here.

4395
03:40:38,120 --> 03:40:40,960
Speaker 1: I mean to Kobe Dean, is there Devin Lloyd that

4396
03:40:41,080 --> 03:40:44,560
Speaker 1: he was a thirty visit? So, like I said, I

4397
03:40:44,640 --> 03:40:47,640
Speaker 1: wonder if this is I would love to see those grades,

4398
03:40:47,720 --> 03:40:49,960
Speaker 1: Like is Devin Lloyd a better player on their board?

4399
03:40:50,000 --> 03:40:53,080
Speaker 1: But they need an offensive lineman more. I mean, like

4400
03:40:53,080 --> 03:40:55,760
Speaker 1: I say, linder bamb Lloyd, Dean. I mean, those are

4401
03:40:55,760 --> 03:40:58,360
Speaker 1: the guys I had, but we always sort of figured

4402
03:40:58,480 --> 03:41:00,720
Speaker 1: that Linderbaum wasn't going to have Oh no. But I'm

4403
03:41:00,720 --> 03:41:03,279
Speaker 1: just saying I just wanted to go on record because

4404
03:41:03,320 --> 03:41:05,560
Speaker 1: I think there's some teams behind Dallas. I think Tampa

4405
03:41:05,640 --> 03:41:08,840
Speaker 1: Bay possibility, you know when you look at that as well.

4406
03:41:08,920 --> 03:41:11,600
Speaker 1: But I think that you know that he's a really

4407
03:41:11,640 --> 03:41:13,480
Speaker 1: he's a good player. I mean, he really, really is

4408
03:41:13,480 --> 03:41:15,320
Speaker 1: a good player. It's a shame that, you know, they

4409
03:41:15,400 --> 03:41:17,200
Speaker 1: look at the traits and stuff like that, but that's

4410
03:41:17,200 --> 03:41:19,600
Speaker 1: what they have their their measurables for and stuff like that.

4411
03:41:19,720 --> 03:41:23,160
Speaker 1: So good for them for that. It looks like Will's

4412
03:41:23,800 --> 03:41:25,720
Speaker 1: does he dland or is it just tapping his fingers?

4413
03:41:26,040 --> 03:41:28,280
Speaker 1: Is there a chance? I mean, would they stay in

4414
03:41:28,360 --> 03:41:31,400
Speaker 1: the first round for sure? Or is everyone gonna get

4415
03:41:31,440 --> 03:41:35,880
Speaker 1: up on the phone. Wow this I would guess this

4416
03:41:36,040 --> 03:41:39,840
Speaker 1: is Tyler Smith. Okay, so let's get ready for that man.

4417
03:41:39,920 --> 03:41:42,840
Speaker 1: Not a lot of Tyler Smith and the months and

4418
03:41:43,040 --> 03:41:45,160
Speaker 1: all the build up leading up to this, at least

4419
03:41:45,520 --> 03:41:47,560
Speaker 1: at one oh five three the fan, How about you guys,

4420
03:41:47,640 --> 03:41:49,480
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys? That com Jerry's on the phone. So this

4421
03:41:49,600 --> 03:41:51,880
Speaker 1: is a player? Yeah. We we mentioned this back in

4422
03:41:52,280 --> 03:41:55,199
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. That was really where we first started hearing

4423
03:41:55,320 --> 03:41:57,920
Speaker 1: that they were or that he was on the Cowboys radar.

4424
03:41:58,080 --> 03:42:01,800
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith offensive tackle slash offensive guard at Tulsa, not

4425
03:42:02,080 --> 03:42:05,119
Speaker 1: the most ready made player in terms of tackle. However,

4426
03:42:05,680 --> 03:42:07,240
Speaker 1: you look at a guy that's a short term and

4427
03:42:07,360 --> 03:42:10,000
Speaker 1: Dave said it a minute ago, short term solid guard,

4428
03:42:10,040 --> 03:42:11,720
Speaker 1: and then you bump him out to tackle in a

4429
03:42:11,760 --> 03:42:14,040
Speaker 1: couple of years. I will say, like what, I talk

4430
03:42:14,080 --> 03:42:16,000
Speaker 1: about this all the time, like there are years where

4431
03:42:16,040 --> 03:42:18,720
Speaker 1: we know immediately Yeah, I mean we've we knew for

4432
03:42:18,760 --> 03:42:20,840
Speaker 1: a long time that Layton vander Esch was gonna wind

4433
03:42:20,920 --> 03:42:25,040
Speaker 1: up here. I do think we're later coming around on

4434
03:42:25,160 --> 03:42:28,120
Speaker 1: this one, like, yeah, we are, we are, shout out

4435
03:42:28,160 --> 03:42:31,960
Speaker 1: mel Kiper. Yeah, the draft godfather, he was. He had

4436
03:42:32,000 --> 03:42:34,800
Speaker 1: been on this one very very early. But I mean again,

4437
03:42:35,080 --> 03:42:37,520
Speaker 1: this one we kind of got a little They were

4438
03:42:37,560 --> 03:42:39,320
Speaker 1: a little sneaky with it too, because they could do

4439
03:42:39,400 --> 03:42:41,760
Speaker 1: the Dallas stay. We didn't have to hear about a

4440
03:42:41,800 --> 03:42:43,800
Speaker 1: thirty visit with Tyler Smith because he's from around here.

4441
03:42:43,840 --> 03:42:45,879
Speaker 1: They can you know, we didn't have to know about

4442
03:42:45,879 --> 03:42:49,000
Speaker 1: that interest. It's it's wild. I mean, look, it benefits

4443
03:42:49,000 --> 03:42:50,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's

4444
03:42:50,640 --> 03:42:52,600
Speaker 1: a bad thing, but that is just a wild advantage.

4445
03:42:52,840 --> 03:42:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if you grew up or went to school

4446
03:42:55,200 --> 03:42:59,280
Speaker 1: within what like thirty sixty miles of DFW. It's a yeah,

4447
03:42:59,280 --> 03:43:02,119
Speaker 1: it's a weird like based on the they like literally

4448
03:43:02,240 --> 03:43:04,080
Speaker 1: used like an Atlas map. I think too, if you're

4449
03:43:04,160 --> 03:43:06,040
Speaker 1: from around here, you can come to the facility and

4450
03:43:06,120 --> 03:43:07,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't count toward the visit limit. How do you

4451
03:43:08,040 --> 03:43:10,560
Speaker 1: think the Green Bays of the world feel about Dallas

4452
03:43:10,640 --> 03:43:12,760
Speaker 1: being able to do that? So if this is the

4453
03:43:12,920 --> 03:43:18,480
Speaker 1: pick and looking at what teams moved up with, is

4454
03:43:18,520 --> 03:43:21,240
Speaker 1: there a big regret standing out for you guys with

4455
03:43:21,400 --> 03:43:23,840
Speaker 1: where someone went and what it would have cost or

4456
03:43:23,920 --> 03:43:25,440
Speaker 1: you found with them to stick it in here and

4457
03:43:25,560 --> 03:43:29,039
Speaker 1: addressing a need that everyone probably listed is the number

4458
03:43:29,080 --> 03:43:31,360
Speaker 1: one thing for this football team. I mean, I think

4459
03:43:31,400 --> 03:43:33,560
Speaker 1: you'd want to pick up some extra capital, but I

4460
03:43:33,600 --> 03:43:35,960
Speaker 1: mean as long as as if they believe in the player.

4461
03:43:36,120 --> 03:43:39,640
Speaker 1: But do you have a move up regret where someone

4462
03:43:39,720 --> 03:43:41,480
Speaker 1: went and what was given up for the price? I would,

4463
03:43:41,520 --> 03:43:43,199
Speaker 1: but if they fit and it's Kellen Moore on the phone,

4464
03:43:43,240 --> 03:43:47,800
Speaker 1: this is definitely offense. So I would feel I would

4465
03:43:47,840 --> 03:43:51,279
Speaker 1: have gone up for Penning. I would have gotten up nineteen.

4466
03:43:51,680 --> 03:43:53,760
Speaker 1: But I mean that that's me if they didn't think

4467
03:43:54,080 --> 03:43:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm just asking you, Yeah, no, if that's what I

4468
03:43:55,920 --> 03:43:57,560
Speaker 1: would have done, I would have gone up and gotten Penning.

4469
03:43:57,560 --> 03:43:59,640
Speaker 1: All right, here we go with the selection from Roger Goodell.

4470
03:44:04,320 --> 03:44:08,720
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys select

4471
03:44:09,480 --> 03:44:15,879
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith tackle. All Right, I love you guys piecing

4472
03:44:15,959 --> 03:44:18,360
Speaker 1: together and I was listening to this on the drive

4473
03:44:18,440 --> 03:44:20,920
Speaker 1: over here brought us. You were talking about it. Yeah,

4474
03:44:20,959 --> 03:44:23,600
Speaker 1: you were talking about a rumor that was gaining steam

4475
03:44:23,800 --> 03:44:25,840
Speaker 1: with all the homework that you did, and then you

4476
03:44:25,920 --> 03:44:28,040
Speaker 1: guys pieced it together, which is why I love the

4477
03:44:28,240 --> 03:44:31,000
Speaker 1: love the show. To your point, Sean, like you were,

4478
03:44:31,120 --> 03:44:33,360
Speaker 1: you were talking about this, like maybe you listen too

4479
03:44:33,440 --> 03:44:36,440
Speaker 1: much to the stuff right before the draft. Sometimes it's right.

4480
03:44:36,920 --> 03:44:39,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes something kind of parachutes in on you and you're like, oh,

4481
03:44:39,760 --> 03:44:43,040
Speaker 1: this has legs. This is not this is not a smokescreen.

4482
03:44:43,120 --> 03:44:44,800
Speaker 1: And that's what happened here. So let me let me

4483
03:44:44,879 --> 03:44:48,320
Speaker 1: be the Cowboy fan reactor in here. All right. I'm

4484
03:44:48,360 --> 03:44:50,600
Speaker 1: guessing what Twitter is about to be, and you guys

4485
03:44:50,680 --> 03:44:53,120
Speaker 1: are the ones with the connections and you did the homework.

4486
03:44:53,840 --> 03:44:57,520
Speaker 1: There's gonna I think there's gonna be disappointment just because

4487
03:44:57,800 --> 03:45:00,400
Speaker 1: we're more comfortable here in names and ones that you

4488
03:45:00,440 --> 03:45:02,480
Speaker 1: guys have been projecting and ones that you guys have

4489
03:45:02,680 --> 03:45:04,560
Speaker 1: been excited about. So all of a sudden you get

4490
03:45:04,600 --> 03:45:07,760
Speaker 1: one out of the blue and you're like, huh when

4491
03:45:07,800 --> 03:45:10,560
Speaker 1: you've heard all the hype about Linderbaum and Penning in

4492
03:45:10,640 --> 03:45:13,280
Speaker 1: these guys. So I feel like, I feel like you

4493
03:45:13,360 --> 03:45:15,600
Speaker 1: guys are gonna have to if you feel good about it,

4494
03:45:15,920 --> 03:45:18,280
Speaker 1: make the Cowboy fans feel pretty good. This is where

4495
03:45:18,360 --> 03:45:21,400
Speaker 1: also too, I remember a draft where Travis Frederick I'll

4496
03:45:21,400 --> 03:45:24,800
Speaker 1: say the name right that time. Absolutely this was a

4497
03:45:24,920 --> 03:45:27,200
Speaker 1: dret where we thought Travis Frederick, we all have third

4498
03:45:27,280 --> 03:45:30,280
Speaker 1: round grades, laughed at it. Everybody's like, why why would

4499
03:45:30,280 --> 03:45:34,240
Speaker 1: you do this? This unathletic center from Wisconsin. He doesn't

4500
03:45:34,400 --> 03:45:36,920
Speaker 1: pick up his feet, he shuffles, he does all these things.

4501
03:45:37,520 --> 03:45:39,240
Speaker 1: There are people that will tell you in this building

4502
03:45:39,280 --> 03:45:41,600
Speaker 1: about Tyler Smith when you mentioned him, it's like, man,

4503
03:45:41,760 --> 03:45:44,640
Speaker 1: really good athlete. But this guy we've mentioned it. The

4504
03:45:44,760 --> 03:45:47,000
Speaker 1: holding penalies and stuff like that is there's going to

4505
03:45:47,080 --> 03:45:49,800
Speaker 1: be need to be some technique work here. There's going

4506
03:45:49,920 --> 03:45:51,760
Speaker 1: That's the first thing that people are going to do

4507
03:45:52,240 --> 03:45:55,360
Speaker 1: when they go back and the media ask questions, well,

4508
03:45:55,440 --> 03:45:57,680
Speaker 1: what about him and what about him? Know? What about

4509
03:45:57,680 --> 03:46:00,160
Speaker 1: these holding penalies. Didn't you just have a left are

4510
03:46:00,280 --> 03:46:02,680
Speaker 1: that had all these holding penalties. But this is a

4511
03:46:02,760 --> 03:46:05,280
Speaker 1: big man. He's six five, he's three hundred and twenty

4512
03:46:05,280 --> 03:46:08,480
Speaker 1: four pounds. He's extremely raw in the way that he

4513
03:46:08,640 --> 03:46:10,800
Speaker 1: plays right now, but he's a powerful guy in the

4514
03:46:10,879 --> 03:46:14,120
Speaker 1: running game. And so now I'm sere thinking, what's the

4515
03:46:14,200 --> 03:46:17,000
Speaker 1: problem the Cowboys have had. They've had issues trying to

4516
03:46:17,080 --> 03:46:19,520
Speaker 1: run the football, especially the second half of the season.

4517
03:46:19,920 --> 03:46:22,200
Speaker 1: This guy comes off the ball, he gets to his man,

4518
03:46:22,280 --> 03:46:24,440
Speaker 1: he gets some movement. You're going to have to work

4519
03:46:24,520 --> 03:46:26,720
Speaker 1: with him on some of the technique stuff that that

4520
03:46:27,160 --> 03:46:29,640
Speaker 1: is something that's going to have to happen. But you

4521
03:46:29,720 --> 03:46:32,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean to me, I had other guys

4522
03:46:32,560 --> 03:46:35,320
Speaker 1: on the board. But that's why I'm here and there there.

4523
03:46:35,400 --> 03:46:37,840
Speaker 1: We're all here and they're there. And I just harkened

4524
03:46:37,879 --> 03:46:41,120
Speaker 1: back to I wasn't a huge fan of Travis Frederick. Yeah,

4525
03:46:41,240 --> 03:46:43,080
Speaker 1: that's my hope right now for the Dallas Cowboys. I'm

4526
03:46:43,160 --> 03:46:45,840
Speaker 1: right there with you. And even going back to comparing

4527
03:46:45,959 --> 03:46:48,840
Speaker 1: the two, I don't think any of us had a

4528
03:46:48,879 --> 03:46:51,480
Speaker 1: third round grade on Tyler Smith. We had him pretty

4529
03:46:51,520 --> 03:46:53,800
Speaker 1: much pegged in the second round most likely, like we

4530
03:46:53,920 --> 03:46:55,920
Speaker 1: talked about they had a second round grade on him

4531
03:46:55,920 --> 03:46:58,080
Speaker 1: as well, because they were wiped out of the fourteen

4532
03:46:58,680 --> 03:47:01,400
Speaker 1: to sixteen names they had in the first round. Sure,

4533
03:47:01,640 --> 03:47:03,520
Speaker 1: I would have liked to see a Tyler Linderbaum. I

4534
03:47:03,560 --> 03:47:05,400
Speaker 1: had him much higher on my board. Sure, I would

4535
03:47:05,400 --> 03:47:06,720
Speaker 1: have loved to see a trade up and maybe go

4536
03:47:06,800 --> 03:47:10,119
Speaker 1: get a Trevor Penning. However, you upgraded your offensive line here,

4537
03:47:10,520 --> 03:47:12,480
Speaker 1: whether it's at the guard spot, and you have a

4538
03:47:12,560 --> 03:47:15,360
Speaker 1: secondary option at tackle as well. If you needed him

4539
03:47:15,400 --> 03:47:17,959
Speaker 1: to kick out, Tyrann Smith hasn't played an entire season

4540
03:47:18,080 --> 03:47:20,720
Speaker 1: in god knows how long a half decade now, you

4541
03:47:20,840 --> 03:47:24,000
Speaker 1: may need him to bump out and show that flexibility

4542
03:47:24,080 --> 03:47:26,880
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. He can do that. My biggest

4543
03:47:26,959 --> 03:47:29,800
Speaker 1: knock against Tyler Smith is the penalties, and that's something

4544
03:47:29,879 --> 03:47:32,920
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys certainly struggled with in twenty twenty and

4545
03:47:33,000 --> 03:47:36,480
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. They commit He committed sixteen penalties this

4546
03:47:36,560 --> 03:47:39,280
Speaker 1: past season, twelve of which we're holding calls. That has

4547
03:47:39,360 --> 03:47:41,200
Speaker 1: to clean up, and I think the foundation of it

4548
03:47:41,400 --> 03:47:43,040
Speaker 1: and the fundamental side of it is going to be

4549
03:47:43,120 --> 03:47:44,800
Speaker 1: one of the ways that he cleans that up. Early

4550
03:47:44,840 --> 03:47:47,240
Speaker 1: in his career, what did we say last year and

4551
03:47:47,360 --> 03:47:49,080
Speaker 1: it's a different player in a different part of the draft.

4552
03:47:49,120 --> 03:47:52,039
Speaker 1: What do we say last year about Michael Parsons, Well,

4553
03:47:52,080 --> 03:47:53,800
Speaker 1: it's trades, there's a lot of trades, but like what

4554
03:47:53,920 --> 03:47:56,680
Speaker 1: kind of a football players, there's a lot of elite

4555
03:47:56,720 --> 03:47:59,640
Speaker 1: traits here with Tyler Smith, and you know, there's gonna

4556
03:47:59,640 --> 03:48:00,920
Speaker 1: be a lot that you're gonna need to lean on

4557
03:48:01,160 --> 03:48:03,480
Speaker 1: Joe Philbin go out there develop this guy and to

4558
03:48:03,520 --> 03:48:05,360
Speaker 1: help him. And so, I mean, I think that that's

4559
03:48:05,400 --> 03:48:07,040
Speaker 1: going to be a big part of this is that

4560
03:48:07,600 --> 03:48:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, trusting your offensive line coach, that your coaches

4561
03:48:10,240 --> 03:48:11,960
Speaker 1: to help develop him. But the traits are there, and

4562
03:48:12,080 --> 03:48:14,000
Speaker 1: he's a very young player. He just turned twenty one

4563
03:48:14,200 --> 03:48:17,240
Speaker 1: three weeks ago, so he's young. What's your degree of

4564
03:48:17,320 --> 03:48:19,640
Speaker 1: confidence that he can win the left guard job as

4565
03:48:19,680 --> 03:48:25,040
Speaker 1: a rookie? I think it's pretty high at left guard specifically. Yes, yeah,

4566
03:48:25,200 --> 03:48:27,680
Speaker 1: it's the only available job right now. I know, I

4567
03:48:28,080 --> 03:48:31,680
Speaker 1: to be honest, backups, I think the situation is they

4568
03:48:31,760 --> 03:48:34,840
Speaker 1: probably don't think anything much of the guys that are

4569
03:48:34,879 --> 03:48:37,400
Speaker 1: competing with him, you know, yeah, or they wouldn't have

4570
03:48:37,480 --> 03:48:39,760
Speaker 1: made this pick. I mean, I honestly feel like that

4571
03:48:39,879 --> 03:48:42,840
Speaker 1: they got they lost Green. That was one that they

4572
03:48:42,879 --> 03:48:44,560
Speaker 1: were kind of thinking. They probably didn't think they were

4573
03:48:44,560 --> 03:48:47,440
Speaker 1: going to get Zion Johnson, but they lost Kenyon Green

4574
03:48:47,800 --> 03:48:49,640
Speaker 1: and so now sudden we talked about it and I

4575
03:48:49,680 --> 03:48:53,600
Speaker 1: ask you, guys, you know, what's what's the situation all along? Bobby,

4576
03:48:53,840 --> 03:48:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean all week we've taught about not all week,

4577
03:48:56,280 --> 03:48:58,200
Speaker 1: but the last three days. When you start to talk

4578
03:48:58,240 --> 03:49:00,760
Speaker 1: about Tyler Smith, it was what's going to happen to

4579
03:49:00,840 --> 03:49:03,320
Speaker 1: the board? What gets you to where you draft? And

4580
03:49:03,400 --> 03:49:05,080
Speaker 1: they liked him a heck of a lot better than

4581
03:49:05,280 --> 03:49:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, than me, I know, but like I said,

4582
03:49:08,560 --> 03:49:11,000
Speaker 1: that's a that's a big man. You know, he's a

4583
03:49:11,040 --> 03:49:14,520
Speaker 1: powerful run blocker. Kyle mentions the holding calls and stuff

4584
03:49:14,560 --> 03:49:16,960
Speaker 1: like that. You know, how much do they like, you know,

4585
03:49:17,120 --> 03:49:20,120
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern do. They don't like him enough to make

4586
03:49:20,200 --> 03:49:22,200
Speaker 1: him to put him back in there at guard and

4587
03:49:22,280 --> 03:49:24,960
Speaker 1: they let and they let Connor Williams walk, So they

4588
03:49:25,080 --> 03:49:27,440
Speaker 1: felt like they had to do something here. So they're

4589
03:49:27,440 --> 03:49:30,560
Speaker 1: going to give this guy every chance to be plug

4590
03:49:30,640 --> 03:49:33,800
Speaker 1: and play. I don't know if technique wise and he's

4591
03:49:33,800 --> 03:49:36,960
Speaker 1: ready for plug and play. That's just my questions right now.

4592
03:49:37,280 --> 03:49:39,560
Speaker 1: So do we think that if left guard is the

4593
03:49:39,640 --> 03:49:41,880
Speaker 1: spot for now? Do we think though that this is

4594
03:49:41,920 --> 03:49:44,400
Speaker 1: still just similar plan to like we talked about with

4595
03:49:44,440 --> 03:49:46,960
Speaker 1: Penning across some of these other guys. You're left guard

4596
03:49:47,040 --> 03:49:50,080
Speaker 1: now you're left tackle of the future. I don't know.

4597
03:49:50,320 --> 03:49:52,120
Speaker 1: Can you say that on draft night? I mean, that's

4598
03:49:52,120 --> 03:49:53,520
Speaker 1: the whole I mean, you would have said that about

4599
03:49:53,520 --> 03:49:55,080
Speaker 1: Trevor Penning. You would have said that about Try, that

4600
03:49:55,080 --> 03:49:56,240
Speaker 1: you were going to plug him in at guard and

4601
03:49:56,280 --> 03:49:58,440
Speaker 1: eventually groom him for tackle. Is that their plan here?

4602
03:49:58,560 --> 03:50:00,200
Speaker 1: I think they can be their hope. I think the

4603
03:50:00,280 --> 03:50:03,480
Speaker 1: fact that they saw him as a guard first tells

4604
03:50:03,520 --> 03:50:05,280
Speaker 1: you that might you know, we we you know, we've

4605
03:50:05,400 --> 03:50:07,040
Speaker 1: kind of kind of feel like that they're going to

4606
03:50:07,080 --> 03:50:09,000
Speaker 1: try if he works out a guard, I don't see

4607
03:50:09,040 --> 03:50:11,080
Speaker 1: him moving the same thing they did was Zach and Martin.

4608
03:50:11,200 --> 03:50:12,760
Speaker 1: That's the other thing too, is Zach Martin was a

4609
03:50:12,840 --> 03:50:16,760
Speaker 1: tackle at Notre Dame. In a world with best case scenarios,

4610
03:50:17,320 --> 03:50:19,480
Speaker 1: Let's just pretend for a sect that he becomes a

4611
03:50:19,600 --> 03:50:23,600
Speaker 1: total road grader. Do you move him? I don't know.

4612
03:50:23,800 --> 03:50:26,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good run blocker, but again that's

4613
03:50:26,360 --> 03:50:30,480
Speaker 1: that hands inside, big body, mass power, push, you know,

4614
03:50:30,560 --> 03:50:33,000
Speaker 1: and that's fine. They don't. They need some They need

4615
03:50:33,120 --> 03:50:35,200
Speaker 1: some big bodies up front as far as getting some

4616
03:50:35,280 --> 03:50:37,400
Speaker 1: push in that running game. And Bobby mentioned this in

4617
03:50:37,480 --> 03:50:39,840
Speaker 1: the lead up into the night as well. But it

4618
03:50:39,960 --> 03:50:42,040
Speaker 1: also adds to your locker room. This is a mean,

4619
03:50:42,160 --> 03:50:44,440
Speaker 1: streak sort of player that plays with an edge. He

4620
03:50:44,560 --> 03:50:48,080
Speaker 1: plays with that that hefty side. That Hey, it could

4621
03:50:48,160 --> 03:50:50,760
Speaker 1: be something that the Cowboys were looking to improve from

4622
03:50:50,800 --> 03:50:53,480
Speaker 1: a generality standpoint. They did it last year with Michael Parsons.

4623
03:50:53,520 --> 03:50:55,440
Speaker 1: They went out and got a player that plays mean.

4624
03:50:55,960 --> 03:50:57,680
Speaker 1: They could have done it with Trevor Penning, but here

4625
03:50:57,680 --> 03:51:00,560
Speaker 1: they do it with Tyler Smith. The right up from

4626
03:51:01,640 --> 03:51:06,120
Speaker 1: McShay was he plays with a real edge, and uh,

4627
03:51:06,760 --> 03:51:10,520
Speaker 1: that's it, that's all I he was mocking into the Texas.

4628
03:51:10,560 --> 03:51:12,440
Speaker 1: So I don't want to read the Houston steps. You know,

4629
03:51:12,800 --> 03:51:15,720
Speaker 1: you want the Dane Brugler summary. Yeah, a three year starter.

4630
03:51:15,760 --> 03:51:17,280
Speaker 1: It tells that this is the summer, not the whole

4631
03:51:17,400 --> 03:51:19,800
Speaker 1: report of Smith lined up at left tackle. Uh. In

4632
03:51:19,880 --> 03:51:22,760
Speaker 1: Philip Montgomery's up temple smash my spread, he closed off.

4633
03:51:22,800 --> 03:51:24,600
Speaker 1: He says. Overall, Smith is incredibly rob but he has

4634
03:51:24,640 --> 03:51:26,800
Speaker 1: the play strength and physical strains to get significantly better

4635
03:51:26,840 --> 03:51:30,040
Speaker 1: with technical and mental development. All right, the Baltimore Ravens

4636
03:51:30,080 --> 03:51:32,360
Speaker 1: are on the clock. We're gonna get your newest cowboy,

4637
03:51:32,680 --> 03:51:35,920
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith. On first, we'll have the press conference with

4638
03:51:36,240 --> 03:51:39,280
Speaker 1: Jerry and the crew explaining the thought process. We continue

4639
03:51:39,280 --> 03:51:41,840
Speaker 1: to close out the first round. It's the twenty twenty

4640
03:51:41,840 --> 03:51:43,960
Speaker 1: two NFL Draft on one oh five through the fan

4641
03:51:44,000 --> 03:51:53,600
Speaker 1: in the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. What type of social

4642
03:51:53,680 --> 03:51:58,040
Speaker 1: media reaction so far? David Helmet, Oh, negative, it's probably

4643
03:51:58,120 --> 03:52:01,160
Speaker 1: right up where you are anticipating. Yeah, well, I think

4644
03:52:01,200 --> 03:52:03,680
Speaker 1: it's an you know, unfamiliarity. Let's go to the Ravens

4645
03:52:03,720 --> 03:52:09,040
Speaker 1: with their pick real quick. This is karma for us

4646
03:52:09,120 --> 03:52:13,760
Speaker 1: making fun of the Ravens. My lord, is it really Lenderbaum?

4647
03:52:15,800 --> 03:52:18,680
Speaker 1: What do the Ravens do, Sean Kyle, They hang out,

4648
03:52:19,240 --> 03:52:21,720
Speaker 1: They let really good players fall to them. Shoot, they

4649
03:52:22,080 --> 03:52:24,440
Speaker 1: traded twice. They tried to get away from this guy,

4650
03:52:24,680 --> 03:52:26,600
Speaker 1: they still wound up with him. And who did they

4651
03:52:26,680 --> 03:52:31,560
Speaker 1: get earlier? Kyle Hamilton? Hamilton Hamilton. They traded Hollywood for

4652
03:52:31,960 --> 03:52:35,440
Speaker 1: first and they still have receivers um. And then they

4653
03:52:35,520 --> 03:52:38,760
Speaker 1: go and get their center to fall to them at

4654
03:52:39,000 --> 03:52:42,520
Speaker 1: number twenty five. They didn't have a quarterback either. Oh ooh,

4655
03:52:42,720 --> 03:52:45,840
Speaker 1: I like that hot take. I like the hot take

4656
03:52:46,000 --> 03:52:47,800
Speaker 1: I did. I did radio with Bobby a couple of

4657
03:52:47,800 --> 03:52:49,440
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and you dropped that on me. Oh I

4658
03:52:49,560 --> 03:52:52,000
Speaker 1: like that, Bobby. Uh So, the Titans are on the

4659
03:52:52,080 --> 03:52:56,720
Speaker 1: clock at twenties. The Ravens picked for the first time

4660
03:52:56,800 --> 03:52:59,880
Speaker 1: at pick number fourteen, and they took players number four

4661
03:53:00,200 --> 03:53:03,040
Speaker 1: and eleven on my board. Now, I'm I'm very much

4662
03:53:03,080 --> 03:53:06,240
Speaker 1: so higher on Linderbaum and Hamilton than most, but they

4663
03:53:06,840 --> 03:53:10,640
Speaker 1: at fourteen and twenty five took four and eleven off

4664
03:53:10,680 --> 03:53:12,520
Speaker 1: of the board. I'm gonna be honest with you, guys.

4665
03:53:12,600 --> 03:53:15,880
Speaker 1: I feel vindicated I had I had Tyler lindabamb is

4666
03:53:15,920 --> 03:53:18,880
Speaker 1: my tenth best player. Wow. And the fact that the

4667
03:53:19,040 --> 03:53:23,120
Speaker 1: Ravens took him. I'm exstatic, yes, because that is one

4668
03:53:23,120 --> 03:53:26,400
Speaker 1: of the better drafting teams in NFL right there. So

4669
03:53:26,720 --> 03:53:30,160
Speaker 1: lender Bomb goes and now Tennessee will be followed by

4670
03:53:30,400 --> 03:53:34,440
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Green Bay Packers. Are

4671
03:53:34,480 --> 03:53:37,040
Speaker 1: you guys? Are you guys like a little deflated right now?

4672
03:53:37,560 --> 03:53:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm not okay, no, no, no, no. I think we

4673
03:53:39,760 --> 03:53:42,400
Speaker 1: had kind of come to the realization this is where

4674
03:53:42,400 --> 03:53:44,440
Speaker 1: it was heading when Penning went off the board, I

4675
03:53:44,480 --> 03:53:45,960
Speaker 1: think you had a good understanding of Okay, this is

4676
03:53:46,000 --> 03:53:48,320
Speaker 1: where things more just came down to can they get

4677
03:53:48,360 --> 03:53:50,480
Speaker 1: an extra draft capital? Can they move back? I think

4678
03:53:50,520 --> 03:53:52,800
Speaker 1: they were maybe I don't know, if they just couldn't

4679
03:53:52,800 --> 03:53:54,440
Speaker 1: find a trade or they were more trying to check

4680
03:53:54,520 --> 03:53:56,000
Speaker 1: in and make sure you're not kind of like we're

4681
03:53:56,000 --> 03:53:58,320
Speaker 1: not gonna lose Tyler Smith if we go back. Yeah,

4682
03:53:58,440 --> 03:54:01,960
Speaker 1: which again, this is something I always talk about and

4683
03:54:02,040 --> 03:54:05,800
Speaker 1: I try to explain to people, is like people are understandable,

4684
03:54:05,840 --> 03:54:07,360
Speaker 1: like a lot of people like Tyler Linderbaum and I

4685
03:54:07,400 --> 03:54:09,240
Speaker 1: get it, he's a really good player, and they're like

4686
03:54:09,320 --> 03:54:11,800
Speaker 1: he was sitting right there. They never were going to

4687
03:54:11,840 --> 03:54:13,960
Speaker 1: do that. Hope they never were. No, No, we we

4688
03:54:14,520 --> 03:54:16,480
Speaker 1: some of that. Some of this stuff becomes easier to

4689
03:54:16,600 --> 03:54:18,560
Speaker 1: digest when you think of it that way, where you're like,

4690
03:54:18,880 --> 03:54:21,600
Speaker 1: I get it, you disagree, you came to terms with it,

4691
03:54:21,720 --> 03:54:23,760
Speaker 1: but you're they're just not going to do it again.

4692
03:54:23,760 --> 03:54:27,000
Speaker 1: And again that's my point is like how worked up

4693
03:54:27,000 --> 03:54:29,440
Speaker 1: am I supposed to get about something that is completely

4694
03:54:29,480 --> 03:54:33,560
Speaker 1: beyond my control just because of the measurables? Yeah, or

4695
03:54:33,760 --> 03:54:35,760
Speaker 1: or or they don't they don't think he fits what

4696
03:54:35,840 --> 03:54:37,440
Speaker 1: they like to do. But that's probably a little bit

4697
03:54:37,440 --> 03:54:39,000
Speaker 1: of both. I think, you know, when they can't tell

4698
03:54:39,000 --> 03:54:41,200
Speaker 1: about position flights, he said he's a center that Yeah, Kurt,

4699
03:54:41,280 --> 03:54:44,520
Speaker 1: Kurt ferrets is the is the head coach at Iowa.

4700
03:54:44,920 --> 03:54:47,720
Speaker 1: He used to be with the Ravens and stuff like

4701
03:54:47,840 --> 03:54:50,360
Speaker 1: that in Baltimore and stept before he was a head coach. Trade,

4702
03:54:50,760 --> 03:54:54,000
Speaker 1: so he's he knew he gave him the idea on this.

4703
03:54:54,200 --> 03:54:56,240
Speaker 1: The Jets traded into the first round. Yeah, just just

4704
03:54:56,360 --> 03:54:59,360
Speaker 1: came up. Titans gave that pick up. Tennessee doesn't want

4705
03:54:59,360 --> 03:55:01,240
Speaker 1: to sit still to night either. It feels like they're

4706
03:55:01,280 --> 03:55:04,040
Speaker 1: doing a ton of stuff. They trade a j Brown

4707
03:55:04,240 --> 03:55:06,480
Speaker 1: to the Eagles in case you're just joining us on

4708
03:55:06,600 --> 03:55:08,760
Speaker 1: the Cowboys dot com side, and then they go and

4709
03:55:08,880 --> 03:55:12,760
Speaker 1: draft his replacement in Trail and Burke's and now they

4710
03:55:12,800 --> 03:55:16,440
Speaker 1: are moving back with the New York Jets. So here

4711
03:55:16,480 --> 03:55:19,200
Speaker 1: we go with the with the Titans. What are you thinking?

4712
03:55:19,240 --> 03:55:21,640
Speaker 1: I just I gotta tweet from somebody here, and like,

4713
03:55:21,760 --> 03:55:25,000
Speaker 1: I just want to make this clear. Somebody had said, uh, oh,

4714
03:55:25,080 --> 03:55:27,840
Speaker 1: this is this is the offense talking about the pick here. Yeah,

4715
03:55:28,080 --> 03:55:30,280
Speaker 1: And so I mean I don't know. Well, we'll dive

4716
03:55:30,320 --> 03:55:32,480
Speaker 1: into that later. I guess, get your get your Tyler

4717
03:55:32,520 --> 03:55:34,880
Speaker 1: Smith questions ready, he's on hold. So when we come

4718
03:55:34,920 --> 03:55:37,600
Speaker 1: back on the radio side, wonderful, get ready to fire

4719
03:55:37,640 --> 03:55:42,440
Speaker 1: off some questions. What are we gonna ask? Interest level?

4720
03:55:42,520 --> 03:55:45,760
Speaker 1: When did you know that's a good one? Yeah? When?

4721
03:55:45,960 --> 03:55:49,760
Speaker 1: What point in the process was the first communication? Hometown team? Yeah?

4722
03:55:49,920 --> 03:55:52,440
Speaker 1: How does it feel good? That's with the hometown team. Okay,

4723
03:55:53,360 --> 03:55:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm just having you guys, get ready for your questions,

4724
03:55:56,640 --> 03:55:59,520
Speaker 1: pizza and get ready, get and get ready to get

4725
03:55:59,560 --> 03:56:02,200
Speaker 1: my caffee kick in. So the newest cowboy is gonna

4726
03:56:02,200 --> 03:56:06,160
Speaker 1: be joining us here momentarily. How do you summarize the

4727
03:56:06,200 --> 03:56:10,480
Speaker 1: first round so far? Guys? Predictable that's I mean, not

4728
03:56:10,640 --> 03:56:13,840
Speaker 1: not predictable, but more predictable than I anticipated. Maybe for

4729
03:56:14,000 --> 03:56:17,320
Speaker 1: you the names that have the names that have gone

4730
03:56:17,360 --> 03:56:20,440
Speaker 1: have been predictable. But everything that's happened has been wild, sure,

4731
03:56:20,440 --> 03:56:22,640
Speaker 1: because you weren't surprised in the in the first ten

4732
03:56:22,760 --> 03:56:26,160
Speaker 1: really at all. No. Some of these like trading receivers

4733
03:56:26,240 --> 03:56:28,000
Speaker 1: way A. J. Brown and Hollywood Brown like that, That's

4734
03:56:28,000 --> 03:56:31,320
Speaker 1: what I'm talking and the Saints trading up for a receiver, etc.

4735
03:56:32,040 --> 03:56:34,360
Speaker 1: And you can still have names out there like Deebo

4736
03:56:34,560 --> 03:56:39,120
Speaker 1: and Garoppolo and Baker Mayfield and some of these different guys.

4737
03:56:39,200 --> 03:56:42,600
Speaker 1: Did Jermaine Johnson's light is surprising? Yes? I agree? Yeah,

4738
03:56:42,640 --> 03:56:45,680
Speaker 1: I agreed. Okay, let's get ready to rejoin the radio,

4739
03:56:45,680 --> 03:56:48,560
Speaker 1: and then we'll have the newest Dallas Cowboy, Tyler Smith,

4740
03:56:48,680 --> 03:57:12,880
Speaker 1: on with us. All right, And part of being your

4741
03:57:13,000 --> 03:57:17,320
Speaker 1: Home of America's team is the access the Dallas Cowboys

4742
03:57:17,360 --> 03:57:22,080
Speaker 1: at number twenty four draft Tulsa offensive tackle Tyler Smith,

4743
03:57:22,520 --> 03:57:25,520
Speaker 1: and he's joining us right now. UM one oh five

4744
03:57:25,680 --> 03:57:31,160
Speaker 1: three the Fan and the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. Hello, Tyler, Congratulations.

4745
03:57:31,200 --> 03:57:35,520
Speaker 1: How's it feel, man? It's a it's it's indescribable. Man.

4746
03:57:35,600 --> 03:57:37,800
Speaker 1: I can't even I can't even put it into words.

4747
03:57:37,880 --> 03:57:40,480
Speaker 1: Really paint the picture at your house. It sounds like

4748
03:57:40,600 --> 03:57:43,480
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of fun wherever you are, man.

4749
03:57:43,960 --> 03:57:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean, as soon as it happen, you know, everybody yelling,

4750
03:57:46,160 --> 03:57:49,200
Speaker 1: everybody screaming. You know, I'm in Pierce shock. I'm talking

4751
03:57:49,240 --> 03:57:52,240
Speaker 1: to mister Jones. I'm like, man, like you know you

4752
03:57:52,320 --> 03:57:54,400
Speaker 1: always got you almost gotta pinch yourself. It's like a

4753
03:57:54,520 --> 03:57:58,520
Speaker 1: dream like you're waking up into When did you start

4754
03:57:58,760 --> 03:58:00,880
Speaker 1: first getting the feeling that this could happen and the

4755
03:58:00,920 --> 03:58:05,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys were interested in you? Man, I'm to be honest,

4756
03:58:05,880 --> 03:58:07,880
Speaker 1: the only time I knew is I had a probably

4757
03:58:07,960 --> 03:58:10,880
Speaker 1: work out with them and like I heard good things,

4758
03:58:10,960 --> 03:58:13,080
Speaker 1: but like throughout the process, I just I really didn't

4759
03:58:13,120 --> 03:58:14,960
Speaker 1: know till the day. But you know, it's a blessing

4760
03:58:16,240 --> 03:58:18,320
Speaker 1: now playing for the hometown team. I mean, you grew

4761
03:58:18,400 --> 03:58:20,800
Speaker 1: up in Fort Worths, you played at North Crowley High School.

4762
03:58:20,960 --> 03:58:22,880
Speaker 1: What does it mean to you and your family to

4763
03:58:23,200 --> 03:58:25,520
Speaker 1: be able to play close to home and play for

4764
03:58:25,560 --> 03:58:29,760
Speaker 1: the franchise? Length to Cowboys? Man, I mean, it's indescribable. Man.

4765
03:58:29,800 --> 03:58:33,440
Speaker 1: You know I played college football Tussa, Oklahoma, and you know,

4766
03:58:33,520 --> 03:58:35,760
Speaker 1: the quire to be called home man, to play play

4767
03:58:35,840 --> 03:58:37,640
Speaker 1: for the great statement. There's the other thing I like

4768
03:58:37,720 --> 03:58:40,440
Speaker 1: you now you are a Cowboy fan. Though, let's clarify

4769
03:58:40,560 --> 03:58:44,520
Speaker 1: that right, you are a Cowboy fan? Yes, sir, all right,

4770
03:58:44,600 --> 03:58:49,240
Speaker 1: it's the right answer. Hey, Tyler, congratulations, man, I'm just curious,

4771
03:58:49,280 --> 03:58:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean from from the outsider's perspective, and we talk

4772
03:58:52,200 --> 03:58:55,560
Speaker 1: about your fit and and how you how you look

4773
03:58:55,560 --> 03:58:58,240
Speaker 1: at the NFL level, We assume that you would start

4774
03:58:58,280 --> 03:58:59,880
Speaker 1: out at guard if they talked to you about that,

4775
03:59:00,280 --> 03:59:03,240
Speaker 1: What's what's your kind of idea for what your role

4776
03:59:03,320 --> 03:59:06,600
Speaker 1: looks like at this level of football. Man, they haven't

4777
03:59:06,640 --> 03:59:08,400
Speaker 1: talked to me about it, but you know, all ready

4778
03:59:08,440 --> 03:59:10,880
Speaker 1: to play off opposition, do whatever I can help the

4779
03:59:10,960 --> 03:59:13,440
Speaker 1: team win. Man, that's my That's my only goal is

4780
03:59:13,480 --> 03:59:15,800
Speaker 1: contributing and making sure we get to that Super Bowl.

4781
03:59:16,080 --> 03:59:20,920
Speaker 1: It's like your home now, Tyler. Again, congratulations on getting

4782
03:59:20,960 --> 03:59:23,520
Speaker 1: picked by the hometown team. We talk about that there about. Like,

4783
03:59:23,560 --> 03:59:25,120
Speaker 1: have they talked to you about playing garter tackle? I

4784
03:59:25,200 --> 03:59:27,440
Speaker 1: know you played tackle pretty much exclusively at Tulsa, but

4785
03:59:27,440 --> 03:59:29,960
Speaker 1: you're actually a guard recruit coming out of high school.

4786
03:59:30,000 --> 03:59:33,440
Speaker 1: Where do you feel most comfortable playing? I mean, you know,

4787
03:59:34,040 --> 03:59:36,760
Speaker 1: almost comfortable playing wherever. Man, you know, I trained for

4788
03:59:36,880 --> 03:59:38,480
Speaker 1: it all. You know, I'm willing to put the work

4789
03:59:38,560 --> 03:59:40,600
Speaker 1: in and take the coach and to do whatever I

4790
03:59:40,680 --> 03:59:43,480
Speaker 1: gotta do. Like so that's kind of you know, that's

4791
03:59:43,560 --> 03:59:46,760
Speaker 1: my outlook. Or I could play anywhere they put me, Tyler.

4792
03:59:46,960 --> 03:59:49,480
Speaker 1: You know, as a Cowboy fan though, you're you gotta

4793
03:59:49,480 --> 03:59:52,080
Speaker 1: be familiar though with this offensive line right what you're

4794
03:59:52,120 --> 03:59:54,400
Speaker 1: about to be part of you understand, you're kind of

4795
03:59:54,400 --> 03:59:56,760
Speaker 1: getting the feeling like, hey, wait a minute, Tyren Smith

4796
03:59:56,840 --> 03:59:58,760
Speaker 1: and Zach Martin and those guys, you gotta be excited

4797
03:59:58,760 --> 04:00:02,240
Speaker 1: about being teammates with those guys. Now, I'm too excited.

4798
04:00:02,280 --> 04:00:04,840
Speaker 1: You know, I grew up watching those guys like, you know,

4799
04:00:05,000 --> 04:00:08,200
Speaker 1: from the NFL. Taught one hundred to just like break

4800
04:00:08,280 --> 04:00:11,280
Speaker 1: down videos of Tyren Smith and Zach Martin and all

4801
04:00:11,320 --> 04:00:14,320
Speaker 1: those guys. Like it's it's just crazy to me to

4802
04:00:14,400 --> 04:00:16,040
Speaker 1: be able to call my teammates, But they're gonna be

4803
04:00:16,080 --> 04:00:18,440
Speaker 1: a great source, you know, to learn from to you know,

4804
04:00:18,560 --> 04:00:20,680
Speaker 1: perfect my craft, and it's just it's a blessing of beer.

4805
04:00:21,320 --> 04:00:23,680
Speaker 1: Now for most Cowboys fans out there, this is the

4806
04:00:23,760 --> 04:00:26,680
Speaker 1: first time they're hearing you, and you're hearing your story.

4807
04:00:27,160 --> 04:00:29,280
Speaker 1: What do you feel like is your biggest strength as

4808
04:00:29,360 --> 04:00:31,480
Speaker 1: a player as you enter the NFL And what are

4809
04:00:31,520 --> 04:00:33,280
Speaker 1: some things that you feel like need to take the

4810
04:00:33,400 --> 04:00:36,240
Speaker 1: next step now that you're at the pro level. Man,

4811
04:00:36,320 --> 04:00:37,960
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, one of my biggest trains,

4812
04:00:37,960 --> 04:00:39,760
Speaker 1: you know, I care a great chip on my shoulders.

4813
04:00:40,160 --> 04:00:43,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm athletically gifted, I'm physical. The effort

4814
04:00:43,720 --> 04:00:45,480
Speaker 1: is always gonna be out one hundred and twenty percent

4815
04:00:45,520 --> 04:00:49,120
Speaker 1: to affinity. But you know, I'm gonna go wherever and

4816
04:00:49,240 --> 04:00:51,240
Speaker 1: do whatever to win. And that's you know, that's my

4817
04:00:51,320 --> 04:00:53,840
Speaker 1: greatest strength. Obviously. You know I gotta get then, I

4818
04:00:53,880 --> 04:00:55,480
Speaker 1: gotta get the coaching, like you know, I'm gonna get

4819
04:00:55,520 --> 04:00:57,720
Speaker 1: coached up and continue to prove and every stats of

4820
04:00:57,800 --> 04:01:00,320
Speaker 1: my game. Like you know, I'm never satisfied, you know,

4821
04:01:00,360 --> 04:01:01,840
Speaker 1: all ready to do whatever it takes to get to

4822
04:01:01,880 --> 04:01:05,280
Speaker 1: the next level every day. Newest Cowboys offensive lineman Tyler

4823
04:01:05,320 --> 04:01:07,720
Speaker 1: Smith joining us. We heard that they were looking for

4824
04:01:07,800 --> 04:01:10,440
Speaker 1: a little more nastiness in the offseason, a little bit

4825
04:01:10,760 --> 04:01:14,840
Speaker 1: more edge. Can you provide that? Man? That's my motto,

4826
04:01:15,000 --> 04:01:17,840
Speaker 1: that's my m os so. I definitely got him on that.

4827
04:01:18,200 --> 04:01:21,160
Speaker 1: What's your nickname? What do they call you? What should

4828
04:01:21,200 --> 04:01:24,160
Speaker 1: we get used to man? Pete? I mean Pete. Most

4829
04:01:24,160 --> 04:01:27,200
Speaker 1: people call me t says like my social media handles

4830
04:01:27,240 --> 04:01:31,200
Speaker 1: and stuff, but they called me anything. I'm a man

4831
04:01:31,240 --> 04:01:35,320
Speaker 1: of the people. Guys, are you good to go? Ready

4832
04:01:35,360 --> 04:01:38,000
Speaker 1: to go? Congratulations Tyler? Happy to have you on board, man.

4833
04:01:38,960 --> 04:01:41,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate him now. I'm truly blessed to be here. Man,

4834
04:01:41,800 --> 04:01:43,800
Speaker 1: it's an honor. What you can't say that out enough?

4835
04:01:43,880 --> 04:01:47,040
Speaker 1: What's your cell phone looking like right now? Man? It's

4836
04:01:47,040 --> 04:01:49,360
Speaker 1: still it's deep and now as we talk, man, you know,

4837
04:01:49,440 --> 04:01:52,280
Speaker 1: I got y'all at one here notifications of the other man,

4838
04:01:52,320 --> 04:01:55,240
Speaker 1: but it's still blessing it. Hey man, congratulations, we're really

4839
04:01:55,320 --> 04:01:57,560
Speaker 1: really happy for you. Good to see the hometown kid

4840
04:01:57,920 --> 04:02:01,800
Speaker 1: join America's team and we'll see in person soon. Absolutely,

4841
04:02:01,920 --> 04:02:05,520
Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. Thank you. He's excited, Wow,

4842
04:02:05,680 --> 04:02:10,160
Speaker 1: as he should be. Awesome. Congratulations to him. If that

4843
04:02:10,600 --> 04:02:14,760
Speaker 1: was excitement, I wonder what the secret audio sounds like here.

4844
04:02:14,800 --> 04:02:18,880
Speaker 1: It is, Yes, sir, you get to Dallas from Tulsa.

4845
04:02:19,240 --> 04:02:22,280
Speaker 1: I absolutely again, I'm already hearing for words. Sir, you're

4846
04:02:22,320 --> 04:02:25,280
Speaker 1: in fault Worth. Well, this is Jerry Jones and we're

4847
04:02:25,360 --> 04:02:29,320
Speaker 1: fixing to turn your card in and as of this moment,

4848
04:02:29,360 --> 04:02:32,560
Speaker 1: you're a Dallas cowboy. Thank you, sir. It's honor. Well,

4849
04:02:33,200 --> 04:02:35,880
Speaker 1: you've sure impressed a lot of guys in this room,

4850
04:02:36,000 --> 04:02:39,680
Speaker 1: your coaches to be and uh, I want you to

4851
04:02:39,760 --> 04:02:42,200
Speaker 1: know something. You beat out two or three really good

4852
04:02:42,280 --> 04:02:45,080
Speaker 1: players here that we had an opportunity to take over you.

4853
04:02:45,200 --> 04:02:49,320
Speaker 1: So you give yourself some victory. For the day. You've

4854
04:02:49,360 --> 04:02:52,400
Speaker 1: brought me some pretty good guys out for get picked here.

4855
04:02:52,480 --> 04:02:55,160
Speaker 1: So seriously, we're proud to have you and proud to

4856
04:02:55,240 --> 04:02:58,080
Speaker 1: be picking him. I appreciate it, coase, you're gonna get everything.

4857
04:02:58,600 --> 04:03:00,920
Speaker 1: I promise you that. Now, then I want you to

4858
04:03:01,200 --> 04:03:05,759
Speaker 1: say hello to our coach, Mike McCarthy. Hey, Tyler, congratulations,

4859
04:03:07,040 --> 04:03:09,920
Speaker 1: Hey are you? Are you with your family right now? Yes? Sir?

4860
04:03:10,600 --> 04:03:12,400
Speaker 1: All right? Well, hey, enjoyed this moment. This is special

4861
04:03:12,480 --> 04:03:14,320
Speaker 1: moment in your life. And I can't tell you how

4862
04:03:14,400 --> 04:03:17,720
Speaker 1: thrilled we are as an organization and as a coaching staff,

4863
04:03:17,720 --> 04:03:20,320
Speaker 1: and I know our team has so fired up to

4864
04:03:20,440 --> 04:03:23,440
Speaker 1: add you to our lock room. So congratulations, enjoy the moment.

4865
04:03:24,320 --> 04:03:27,680
Speaker 1: Thank you, coach, Thank you. All right. There's Kellen Moore,

4866
04:03:27,680 --> 04:03:30,800
Speaker 1: our offensive corder. How are you doing, coach more? Tyler?

4867
04:03:30,880 --> 04:03:33,000
Speaker 1: What's up? Man? This is Kellen. We are fired up

4868
04:03:33,000 --> 04:03:35,560
Speaker 1: to have you, man, this is gonna be awesome. How

4869
04:03:35,640 --> 04:03:37,800
Speaker 1: fired up to beer? Because I promise you're gonna get

4870
04:03:37,800 --> 04:03:39,840
Speaker 1: everything I got to do. You're gonna so much fun here.

4871
04:03:39,840 --> 04:03:41,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna be a perfect, great group. I'm gonna do

4872
04:03:41,360 --> 04:03:45,640
Speaker 1: something special. Yes, enjoy it. Half fun man, Absolutely, Thank

4873
04:03:45,640 --> 04:03:47,800
Speaker 1: you for bringing me home. Alrightey, I love it. See

4874
04:03:47,840 --> 04:03:54,680
Speaker 1: a man. That's awesome. So there's the secret audio draft

4875
04:03:54,720 --> 04:03:57,160
Speaker 1: call with Newis Cowboy Tyler Smith. Yeah. I love the

4876
04:03:57,200 --> 04:03:59,200
Speaker 1: way that you know, the passion and the fire and

4877
04:03:59,320 --> 04:04:01,000
Speaker 1: wanting to get the job done and stuff, and the

4878
04:04:01,080 --> 04:04:03,000
Speaker 1: fact he's a Cowboy fan. I think that's great. I

4879
04:04:03,040 --> 04:04:05,320
Speaker 1: think it's interesting that Jerry Jones just told you that

4880
04:04:05,400 --> 04:04:08,240
Speaker 1: there were some guys that they had above him or

4881
04:04:08,400 --> 04:04:10,960
Speaker 1: near him that And I'm interested, And I know David

4882
04:04:11,040 --> 04:04:14,120
Speaker 1: Hellman tonight he is going to ask Jerry Jones that question.

4883
04:04:14,200 --> 04:04:17,440
Speaker 1: When you were on the phone with Tyler, you said

4884
04:04:17,520 --> 04:04:19,720
Speaker 1: some players you know you talk about and these players

4885
04:04:20,160 --> 04:04:22,520
Speaker 1: he probably won't tell you. But that's why I think

4886
04:04:22,600 --> 04:04:24,520
Speaker 1: why things got held up a little bit. You know,

4887
04:04:24,680 --> 04:04:27,640
Speaker 1: Stephen and those guys. Maybe they were trying to move

4888
04:04:27,720 --> 04:04:29,560
Speaker 1: the pick. You know, maybe they had a pocket of

4889
04:04:29,640 --> 04:04:31,200
Speaker 1: guys that they were kind of kind of and they

4890
04:04:31,280 --> 04:04:33,800
Speaker 1: maybe they didn't get the pick they wanted out of that.

4891
04:04:33,920 --> 04:04:35,880
Speaker 1: I think they were worried if they traded back that

4892
04:04:36,040 --> 04:04:37,920
Speaker 1: he would go he would get like that's who somebody

4893
04:04:38,040 --> 04:04:41,280
Speaker 1: was trying to come get. Yeah, So Tennessee bailed out

4894
04:04:41,320 --> 04:04:44,440
Speaker 1: of their pick to the Jets, and there was another

4895
04:04:44,560 --> 04:04:49,400
Speaker 1: Jermade Johnson. So Jackson goes on the clock. There was

4896
04:04:49,920 --> 04:04:53,240
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith had been connected to Tennessee, and so I

4897
04:04:53,320 --> 04:04:55,520
Speaker 1: wonder if that was their concern about going back and

4898
04:04:55,680 --> 04:04:58,000
Speaker 1: and when Tyler Smith went, maybe that's why Tennessee went back.

4899
04:04:58,160 --> 04:05:01,280
Speaker 1: I think that is very likely what happened. Yea. And

4900
04:05:01,760 --> 04:05:06,920
Speaker 1: it reminds me was it last year? Uh oh my gosh,

4901
04:05:06,960 --> 04:05:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm drawn a blank. Like remember in the third round,

4902
04:05:09,160 --> 04:05:10,880
Speaker 1: like they made a pick and then like your three

4903
04:05:11,000 --> 04:05:13,560
Speaker 1: favorite players went off the board right after the thing. Yep.

4904
04:05:13,800 --> 04:05:15,720
Speaker 1: And that's I mean, you look at Tyler Linderbaum and

4905
04:05:15,800 --> 04:05:17,600
Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson. I mean, that's what fans are going to

4906
04:05:17,680 --> 04:05:19,200
Speaker 1: have their eye on when they look at this pick

4907
04:05:19,320 --> 04:05:22,360
Speaker 1: from years from now. But to your point, Brough, I

4908
04:05:22,400 --> 04:05:25,520
Speaker 1: mean grades are a lie. Like they're not a lie

4909
04:05:25,560 --> 04:05:27,720
Speaker 1: in the sense that they exist, but this team will

4910
04:05:27,840 --> 04:05:30,560
Speaker 1: manipulate them to get what they want. I think it right,

4911
04:05:30,840 --> 04:05:33,600
Speaker 1: they do, Yeah, regularly. I think the pick that you're

4912
04:05:33,680 --> 04:05:36,360
Speaker 1: you're referencing was was nashun right at ninety nine and

4913
04:05:36,440 --> 04:05:40,480
Speaker 1: then it went Elijah Molden. I couldn't remember Thomas like

4914
04:05:41,280 --> 04:05:44,600
Speaker 1: like literally Brian's best of board went from three to none,

4915
04:05:44,800 --> 04:05:47,280
Speaker 1: like right after that pick was made. Yeah, look, let's

4916
04:05:47,400 --> 04:05:49,600
Speaker 1: let's just be honest about it. In terms of the

4917
04:05:49,680 --> 04:05:52,960
Speaker 1: analysis and the projections and the reaction, they knew the

4918
04:05:53,000 --> 04:05:54,960
Speaker 1: player a lot better than we do. Of course, people

4919
04:05:55,160 --> 04:05:57,880
Speaker 1: people that's and again we get it. We can influence

4920
04:05:58,000 --> 04:06:00,720
Speaker 1: and I think this sometimes we have the draft shows

4921
04:06:00,760 --> 04:06:03,960
Speaker 1: we do. Let's get real quick, then we'll go get

4922
04:06:03,960 --> 04:06:07,520
Speaker 1: back to you and Walker. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have

4923
04:06:07,680 --> 04:06:12,440
Speaker 1: traded the twenty six, twenty seventh pick to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

4924
04:06:13,760 --> 04:06:16,920
Speaker 1: We're the twenty seventh pick in the twenty twenty two

4925
04:06:17,040 --> 04:06:23,920
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. The Jacksonville Jaguars select Devin Lloyd, linebacker Utah.

4926
04:06:25,840 --> 04:06:28,120
Speaker 1: So there you go with Devin Lloyd, who some people

4927
04:06:28,120 --> 04:06:30,280
Speaker 1: were thinking New England was gonna select. What were you

4928
04:06:30,320 --> 04:06:32,320
Speaker 1: about to say, brought us? Well, I was. He was

4929
04:06:32,400 --> 04:06:35,240
Speaker 1: my seventh best player on my board. So congratulations my

4930
04:06:35,280 --> 04:06:38,480
Speaker 1: guy down there, Doug Peterson and twenty seven. Yeah, what

4931
04:06:38,600 --> 04:06:40,000
Speaker 1: he was able to do. This guy's gonna be a

4932
04:06:40,040 --> 04:06:42,440
Speaker 1: hell of a football player. I really do believe that. Um,

4933
04:06:42,600 --> 04:06:45,920
Speaker 1: But I will say this though, you know, with this

4934
04:06:46,160 --> 04:06:47,880
Speaker 1: is the thing about it is when you know, we

4935
04:06:48,200 --> 04:06:51,000
Speaker 1: we influence people with like our talk, you know, and

4936
04:06:51,080 --> 04:06:53,040
Speaker 1: we and Dave and we all caught we all do

4937
04:06:53,120 --> 04:06:55,600
Speaker 1: these shows and you start to talk and we kind

4938
04:06:55,640 --> 04:06:57,800
Speaker 1: of talk about the same guys over and over and

4939
04:06:57,880 --> 04:07:00,240
Speaker 1: over again, and then we don't talk about out of

4940
04:07:00,280 --> 04:07:03,600
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith. But but people in the NFL circles, in

4941
04:07:03,760 --> 04:07:06,200
Speaker 1: Scouts and stuff are like men. Because I did have

4942
04:07:06,320 --> 04:07:08,480
Speaker 1: a guy a couple of weeks ago in the organization.

4943
04:07:08,920 --> 04:07:11,400
Speaker 1: I asked about the whole thing with Tyler Smith. I say,

4944
04:07:11,600 --> 04:07:13,800
Speaker 1: is that because it was the Kuiper question that I had?

4945
04:07:14,240 --> 04:07:17,240
Speaker 1: How did Kiper what? And he goes, hey, man, is

4946
04:07:17,280 --> 04:07:20,720
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith's a really good athlete and he didn't really

4947
04:07:20,760 --> 04:07:23,160
Speaker 1: want to go into it much more than that. So

4948
04:07:23,320 --> 04:07:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, follow it away. And then today

4949
04:07:26,480 --> 04:07:30,040
Speaker 1: Bobby always were running down the Tyler Smith stuff and

4950
04:07:30,160 --> 04:07:34,560
Speaker 1: as the board fell, that's the scenario in their mind,

4951
04:07:34,680 --> 04:07:37,520
Speaker 1: that's the way it came down. They needed a guard,

4952
04:07:37,600 --> 04:07:40,560
Speaker 1: They need a big, powerful guy, and hopefully this guy

4953
04:07:40,560 --> 04:07:42,320
Speaker 1: will work out for him. Though, I mean, I feel

4954
04:07:42,400 --> 04:07:45,160
Speaker 1: like in a way, because we don't talk about somebody

4955
04:07:45,240 --> 04:07:47,760
Speaker 1: that maybe the fans are like, oh, damn who they

4956
04:07:47,840 --> 04:07:51,480
Speaker 1: just take? Yeah, you know, whereas whereas we should be like, hey,

4957
04:07:51,720 --> 04:07:54,760
Speaker 1: they're the ones in the room. First round offensive linemen

4958
04:07:54,840 --> 04:07:58,080
Speaker 1: have been there forte you know, yep, And so that's

4959
04:07:58,160 --> 04:07:59,840
Speaker 1: that's the credit you got to give them, right or

4960
04:08:00,000 --> 04:08:02,800
Speaker 1: at least that's the leeway that you have to give

4961
04:08:02,840 --> 04:08:05,440
Speaker 1: them right now. Look, if you're sitting there and go

4962
04:08:05,560 --> 04:08:07,960
Speaker 1: in like, oh, you didn't talk about it enough, like

4963
04:08:08,040 --> 04:08:09,880
Speaker 1: we just said a few minutes ago, had the Cowboys

4964
04:08:09,960 --> 04:08:12,440
Speaker 1: not picked him here, there was enough chatter. I think

4965
04:08:12,640 --> 04:08:14,480
Speaker 1: he was going in the first round regardless the NFL

4966
04:08:14,600 --> 04:08:17,440
Speaker 1: viewed him as a first round player. Yes, yeah, And

4967
04:08:17,560 --> 04:08:19,760
Speaker 1: I also mean not just Keiper and mocking him here

4968
04:08:19,800 --> 04:08:22,240
Speaker 1: like Daniel Jeremiah's had him in the back half of

4969
04:08:22,320 --> 04:08:24,880
Speaker 1: his mocks for for a while or months. So in

4970
04:08:25,000 --> 04:08:28,520
Speaker 1: fact that DJ talks to everybody in personnel offices across

4971
04:08:28,520 --> 04:08:30,200
Speaker 1: the league, DJ will know what I think the moral

4972
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Speaker 1: of the story is, we need we need new draft analysts. Wow,

4973
04:08:36,640 --> 04:08:38,480
Speaker 1: that's how you light it up. You guys just totally

4974
04:08:38,600 --> 04:08:43,400
Speaker 1: miss joke the side note real quick, uh, Tyler Smith,

4975
04:08:44,640 --> 04:08:47,240
Speaker 1: I was having some of the listeners say ask him

4976
04:08:47,240 --> 04:08:49,000
Speaker 1: about I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing this tribe of

4977
04:08:49,520 --> 04:08:52,840
Speaker 1: blounce disease. He had this as a child, a condition

4978
04:08:52,960 --> 04:08:56,400
Speaker 1: found in kids that affects the growth plates around the knee.

4979
04:08:56,760 --> 04:08:58,920
Speaker 1: Causes the growth plate near the inside of the knee

4980
04:08:58,960 --> 04:09:02,400
Speaker 1: to either slow down or stop making new bone. Meanwhile,

4981
04:09:02,440 --> 04:09:04,760
Speaker 1: the growth plate near the outside of the knee continues

4982
04:09:04,800 --> 04:09:08,520
Speaker 1: to grow normally. So he overcame that I'm not saying

4983
04:09:08,560 --> 04:09:11,600
Speaker 1: that that's a current metal condition or worry, but people

4984
04:09:11,640 --> 04:09:14,680
Speaker 1: were telling us to ask about that, but we had

4985
04:09:14,680 --> 04:09:17,000
Speaker 1: to let Tyler get back to the celebration. This will

4986
04:09:17,040 --> 04:09:19,440
Speaker 1: be the this will be the first of like a

4987
04:09:19,560 --> 04:09:22,640
Speaker 1: million interviews that. He was like, we'll have another opportunity.

4988
04:09:22,680 --> 04:09:25,400
Speaker 1: That's call me a voice if you want to. Like

4989
04:09:25,560 --> 04:09:27,240
Speaker 1: people are like, I ask them about the holding calls.

4990
04:09:27,280 --> 04:09:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, why we can get to that. I'm not

4991
04:09:29,120 --> 04:09:35,680
Speaker 1: gonna rain on his parade. Sixteen interviewed Jerry Congratulations, you suck.

4992
04:09:35,920 --> 04:09:38,600
Speaker 1: I've interviewed Jerry Jones once a week for eleven years.

4993
04:09:38,760 --> 04:09:44,160
Speaker 1: I've been told ask better questions. Yeah, ask the ask

4994
04:09:44,240 --> 04:09:46,080
Speaker 1: the right thing all the time. Look, this is part

4995
04:09:46,120 --> 04:09:48,320
Speaker 1: of the fun of it, right, And we've we've we've

4996
04:09:48,400 --> 04:09:53,080
Speaker 1: had missus and you have hits with fan reaction. Taco Charlton,

4997
04:09:53,440 --> 04:09:55,880
Speaker 1: you got it right. As Jerry joked about the other day,

4998
04:09:56,120 --> 04:09:59,160
Speaker 1: we all missed on Travis Frederick and and and let's

4999
04:09:59,200 --> 04:10:03,360
Speaker 1: be real, many of us missed on Michael Parsons. Many

5000
04:10:03,400 --> 04:10:06,000
Speaker 1: of us missed on Michael Parsons. So we'll see what happens.

5001
04:10:06,000 --> 04:10:09,000
Speaker 1: But this is the fun of it getting interested, invested

5002
04:10:09,320 --> 04:10:13,480
Speaker 1: and thrilled or disappointed. I mean, I think he's just

5003
04:10:13,840 --> 04:10:15,200
Speaker 1: from what we have here, this is going to be

5004
04:10:15,240 --> 04:10:17,520
Speaker 1: an easy person for people to root for. Anybody down.

5005
04:10:17,600 --> 04:10:19,720
Speaker 1: This is a local kid kid. This is a gritty

5006
04:10:19,800 --> 04:10:22,920
Speaker 1: kid who went way under recruited coming out of high school.

5007
04:10:22,960 --> 04:10:25,560
Speaker 1: Didn't even get an offer from TCU. His local school,

5008
04:10:26,240 --> 04:10:28,600
Speaker 1: uh you know, goes to Tulsa, has the career, he does,

5009
04:10:29,240 --> 04:10:31,640
Speaker 1: rises up draft boards, you hear him. He's a fun

5010
04:10:31,720 --> 04:10:34,080
Speaker 1: loving guy. He's a very positive, upbeat guy, and he

5011
04:10:34,120 --> 04:10:35,600
Speaker 1: plays with a chip on his shoulder. I think all

5012
04:10:35,600 --> 04:10:37,120
Speaker 1: these things are going to be very easy to root.

5013
04:10:37,200 --> 04:10:39,920
Speaker 1: The easy joke right now to make is obviously you

5014
04:10:40,040 --> 04:10:42,240
Speaker 1: got rid of Connor and then draft to Connor, So

5015
04:10:42,400 --> 04:10:45,560
Speaker 1: get ready for that tomorrow with your shows and all

5016
04:10:45,600 --> 04:10:48,440
Speaker 1: the other coverage. Yeah, I just got somebody that texted

5017
04:10:48,480 --> 04:10:51,360
Speaker 1: me in the organization was telling me that that the Titans.

5018
04:10:51,480 --> 04:10:54,680
Speaker 1: To Bobby's point, Bobby once again with the stuff. Titans

5019
04:10:54,800 --> 04:10:57,200
Speaker 1: kept calling and trying to get the deal Sweden deal,

5020
04:10:57,240 --> 04:11:00,360
Speaker 1: and finally they got Jerry to admit that they's who

5021
04:11:00,360 --> 04:11:02,960
Speaker 1: they were going to take. Jerry Jones. He's told so

5022
04:11:03,040 --> 04:11:05,280
Speaker 1: many stories about that over the years. Jerry Jersey get

5023
04:11:05,320 --> 04:11:07,520
Speaker 1: people to do that. It's amazing. He did it in

5024
04:11:07,600 --> 04:11:09,560
Speaker 1: a draft. He did it in the Roy Williams draft.

5025
04:11:09,600 --> 04:11:13,640
Speaker 1: He got is this in regards Tyler laughing Bobby, Bobby,

5026
04:11:14,840 --> 04:11:16,920
Speaker 1: let's tease it. Tell us. I think this is gonna

5027
04:11:16,960 --> 04:11:18,920
Speaker 1: make you feel a little bit better about another team

5028
04:11:19,160 --> 04:11:22,400
Speaker 1: wanting Tyler Smith brought us, just got some inside info,

5029
04:11:22,520 --> 04:11:24,680
Speaker 1: will bring you the intels. We finished up the first

5030
04:11:24,760 --> 04:11:26,640
Speaker 1: round on one oh five three the Fan and the

5031
04:11:26,720 --> 04:11:36,720
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. All right, could you imagine if

5032
04:11:36,760 --> 04:11:39,080
Speaker 1: the Titans would have jumped up in front of Dallas

5033
04:11:39,160 --> 04:11:41,720
Speaker 1: and took Burkes and this guy from they would have

5034
04:11:41,760 --> 04:11:44,840
Speaker 1: been so furious. That had to be where they were

5035
04:11:44,880 --> 04:11:46,840
Speaker 1: cracking up in the war room. Magic. That's gotta be

5036
04:11:46,960 --> 04:11:48,840
Speaker 1: why Well, I think I think that's what they're probably

5037
04:11:48,880 --> 04:11:52,160
Speaker 1: laughing because Bobby's intel is absolutely right that the Titans

5038
04:11:52,200 --> 04:11:54,120
Speaker 1: were a team that we're trying. And then you know

5039
04:11:54,240 --> 04:11:56,320
Speaker 1: this has happened before and again I'll tell the story

5040
04:11:56,360 --> 04:11:57,960
Speaker 1: about when I was in the war room with Jerry

5041
04:11:58,040 --> 04:12:01,280
Speaker 1: with the Roy Williams thing and he Frank Gilliaman Minnesota

5042
04:12:01,320 --> 04:12:04,080
Speaker 1: on one line and Carl Peterson on the other, and

5043
04:12:04,240 --> 04:12:07,240
Speaker 1: it was it's it's crazy how this guy gets people

5044
04:12:07,280 --> 04:12:12,280
Speaker 1: to do this green day on the clock tonight. We'll

5045
04:12:12,360 --> 04:12:15,760
Speaker 1: go on to do great things on the field, but

5046
04:12:15,920 --> 04:12:21,440
Speaker 1: they'll also make tremendous impacts in their communities. Nobody exemplified

5047
04:12:21,560 --> 04:12:26,120
Speaker 1: that more than Walter Payton. Named in his honor, the

5048
04:12:26,240 --> 04:12:30,640
Speaker 1: Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year Award, presented by Nationwide,

5049
04:12:30,760 --> 04:12:35,440
Speaker 1: is the most prestigious award a player can receive. Tonight,

5050
04:12:36,240 --> 04:12:39,600
Speaker 1: we are proud to have Andrew Whitworth the twenty twenty

5051
04:12:39,680 --> 04:12:43,200
Speaker 1: one Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year here with us.

5052
04:12:47,920 --> 04:12:58,400
Speaker 1: LS you. Thank you, Commissioner, Thank y'all whose house That's

5053
04:12:58,400 --> 04:13:02,000
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about too. I am very humbled and

5054
04:13:02,120 --> 04:13:04,560
Speaker 1: grateful to stand before he was the two thousand and

5055
04:13:04,680 --> 04:13:08,040
Speaker 1: twenty one Walter Payton, the NFL Man of the Year.

5056
04:13:09,480 --> 04:13:15,080
Speaker 1: I would love to think the NFL, the Peyton family

5057
04:13:16,040 --> 04:13:21,080
Speaker 1: and nationwide for everything they do to support players as

5058
04:13:21,120 --> 04:13:25,480
Speaker 1: we try to make positive impacts in our communities. When

5059
04:13:25,520 --> 04:13:27,640
Speaker 1: I look back over my time in the NFL, is

5060
04:13:27,760 --> 04:13:31,200
Speaker 1: going to make the peer over sixteen years. Okay, that's sup.

5061
04:13:31,280 --> 04:13:33,480
Speaker 1: Let's go back to us so quick. I'm sorry about that. Guys.

5062
04:13:33,520 --> 04:13:35,520
Speaker 1: I thought he's gonna make this selection brought us. Go ahead,

5063
04:13:35,520 --> 04:13:38,280
Speaker 1: continue with your Jerry story please, yeah. I mean it's

5064
04:13:38,360 --> 04:13:41,800
Speaker 1: it's funny because when in the draft, Jerry got Frank

5065
04:13:41,880 --> 04:13:45,000
Speaker 1: Gilliam and Carl Peterson to admit we were trying to

5066
04:13:45,080 --> 04:13:48,360
Speaker 1: trade back. And I've never seen a general manager do this,

5067
04:13:48,520 --> 04:13:50,560
Speaker 1: but this is the influence of Jerry Jones in a

5068
04:13:50,600 --> 04:13:53,280
Speaker 1: war room. He got Carl Peterson to admit who he

5069
04:13:53,360 --> 04:13:55,560
Speaker 1: was going to take, and he got Frank Gilly numid

5070
04:13:55,600 --> 04:13:58,000
Speaker 1: who he was going to take, and and Jerry had

5071
04:13:58,040 --> 04:14:00,320
Speaker 1: both phones. He put him down. He said, let's take

5072
04:14:00,400 --> 04:14:02,640
Speaker 1: Kansas Cy's deal. It's better. He's told me, Hey, Frank,

5073
04:14:02,720 --> 04:14:05,280
Speaker 1: I gotta deal with somebody. Bible hung up on him

5074
04:14:05,720 --> 04:14:08,720
Speaker 1: and like yeah, and so we traded back. But that

5075
04:14:08,840 --> 04:14:10,840
Speaker 1: was a crazy draft. You remember we almost went off

5076
04:14:10,840 --> 04:14:13,840
Speaker 1: the clock that it went down to like the last Yeah,

5077
04:14:13,880 --> 04:14:16,080
Speaker 1: and they yelled it, Stephen, they yield its tags all

5078
04:14:16,400 --> 04:14:19,120
Speaker 1: all that. But yeah, that Jerry has that ability when

5079
04:14:19,120 --> 04:14:21,120
Speaker 1: you get sometimes you get guys in the phone that

5080
04:14:21,360 --> 04:14:22,760
Speaker 1: it works out here. It looks like we got the

5081
04:14:22,800 --> 04:14:29,240
Speaker 1: pick for Green Babe. I think we go. In the

5082
04:14:29,360 --> 04:14:33,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select

5083
04:14:34,880 --> 04:14:42,800
Speaker 1: DeVante Wyatt defensive tackle Georgia so Ross Tucker, former NFL player,

5084
04:14:43,040 --> 04:14:46,720
Speaker 1: now does some analysts work. This was his player for

5085
04:14:46,800 --> 04:14:49,760
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. He said, he shocked all of us this morning.

5086
04:14:50,000 --> 04:14:52,200
Speaker 1: He came on. He said they should not take an

5087
04:14:52,320 --> 04:14:55,680
Speaker 1: offensive lineman because you're not going to get anyone, uh

5088
04:14:55,960 --> 04:14:58,200
Speaker 1: in a in a win now year. If you look

5089
04:14:58,240 --> 04:14:59,640
Speaker 1: at it as a win now year, and we're like,

5090
04:14:59,640 --> 04:15:03,000
Speaker 1: all right, smart guy, who would you take? He said?

5091
04:15:03,080 --> 04:15:05,520
Speaker 1: DeVante Wyatt would have been his his player. There's some

5092
04:15:05,640 --> 04:15:08,560
Speaker 1: questions about him. He's got some baggage. He's got some baggage,

5093
04:15:08,560 --> 04:15:10,520
Speaker 1: but he's a hell of a freaking player. Yeah, he's

5094
04:15:10,560 --> 04:15:14,040
Speaker 1: absolutely domestic violence, He's got a couple of things going

5095
04:15:14,080 --> 04:15:17,000
Speaker 1: on there. But you know what's funny. The Packers usually

5096
04:15:17,080 --> 04:15:19,280
Speaker 1: that's not their emo to do something like this, but

5097
04:15:19,680 --> 04:15:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, the value for the players is just too

5098
04:15:22,280 --> 04:15:24,560
Speaker 1: good right there. All right, we'll rejoin the radio side

5099
04:15:24,640 --> 04:15:40,840
Speaker 1: here in a second. I'm Seantreef alongside David Helm and

5100
04:15:40,920 --> 04:15:44,680
Speaker 1: Brian brought us Kyle Yeoman's and our Cowboys insider Bobby Bell.

5101
04:15:44,800 --> 04:15:49,040
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith is your newest offensive lineman, the local kid

5102
04:15:49,160 --> 04:15:52,640
Speaker 1: that went and played at Tulsa as a tackle already

5103
04:15:52,720 --> 04:15:54,920
Speaker 1: joined us here on the fan and the Dallas Cowboys

5104
04:15:55,240 --> 04:15:57,400
Speaker 1: Radio network, and let's give a little reset of what

5105
04:15:57,480 --> 04:16:00,560
Speaker 1: happened afterwards. A lot of Cowboy fans who were disappointed

5106
04:16:00,680 --> 04:16:05,320
Speaker 1: got even more furious when Linderbaum, the center from Iowa

5107
04:16:05,360 --> 04:16:10,200
Speaker 1: went to the Ravens at twenty five. Johnson, the d

5108
04:16:10,440 --> 04:16:12,440
Speaker 1: n from Florida State, who you guys were talking about,

5109
04:16:12,440 --> 04:16:14,360
Speaker 1: maybe we should have done a little more homework, but

5110
04:16:14,440 --> 04:16:17,280
Speaker 1: the Cowboys didn't take him to the Jets at twenty six.

5111
04:16:17,640 --> 04:16:22,400
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd, the Utah inside linebacker goes to Jacksonville at

5112
04:16:22,560 --> 04:16:26,760
Speaker 1: number twenty seven. And then we just had the defensive

5113
04:16:26,800 --> 04:16:30,360
Speaker 1: tackle at a Georgia Wyatt to Green Bay at number

5114
04:16:30,440 --> 04:16:32,520
Speaker 1: twenty eight. If you were listening to the fan, this morning,

5115
04:16:32,600 --> 04:16:36,080
Speaker 1: this was Ross Tucker selection for the Cowboys. Instead he

5116
04:16:36,120 --> 04:16:39,440
Speaker 1: goes to the Packers with some character issues off the field,

5117
04:16:39,760 --> 04:16:42,080
Speaker 1: and now the New England Patriots are on the clock

5118
04:16:42,360 --> 04:16:46,480
Speaker 1: at number twenty nine. Thoughts on the final of the

5119
04:16:46,560 --> 04:16:49,400
Speaker 1: recent selections here, I just we joked about it. I

5120
04:16:49,520 --> 04:16:52,280
Speaker 1: think that's you know, there's always a snapshot of like

5121
04:16:52,440 --> 04:16:54,600
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna remember. This is the Taco

5122
04:16:54,680 --> 04:16:56,320
Speaker 1: t J. Watt thing, Like this is what we're gonna

5123
04:16:56,360 --> 04:16:58,400
Speaker 1: talk about five years from now. We're gonna look at

5124
04:16:58,480 --> 04:17:03,200
Speaker 1: this and see Tyler's Smith followed by Linderbaum, Jermaine Johnson,

5125
04:17:03,240 --> 04:17:06,120
Speaker 1: and Devin Lloyd, three guys that have widely been considered

5126
04:17:06,600 --> 04:17:09,240
Speaker 1: top twenty type of talents all went in a row

5127
04:17:09,840 --> 04:17:14,320
Speaker 1: after Tyler Smith and whoever, yeah, whoever, Whoever's right about that?

5128
04:17:14,800 --> 04:17:16,680
Speaker 1: That'll be the talking point when we look back, Where

5129
04:17:16,720 --> 04:17:19,200
Speaker 1: did you guys have Johnson? Because defensive end was a

5130
04:17:19,320 --> 04:17:21,080
Speaker 1: need for this team is a need for this team.

5131
04:17:21,120 --> 04:17:23,280
Speaker 1: We think I thought he would be a top twenty pick.

5132
04:17:23,440 --> 04:17:25,760
Speaker 1: I didn't buy the hype that he was top Like,

5133
04:17:26,040 --> 04:17:29,480
Speaker 1: IM twenty five on my board, twenty nine on mine. Yeah, okay,

5134
04:17:29,960 --> 04:17:32,080
Speaker 1: so I mean it wasn't like it was a blinking

5135
04:17:32,160 --> 04:17:34,280
Speaker 1: red light at any point along the way. But I

5136
04:17:34,360 --> 04:17:37,480
Speaker 1: mean we had even heard whispers through Brian's circle that

5137
04:17:37,640 --> 04:17:40,280
Speaker 1: he was going to slip a little bit. He slipped

5138
04:17:40,320 --> 04:17:42,760
Speaker 1: to what was it twenty five or twenty six. Now

5139
04:17:43,800 --> 04:17:46,600
Speaker 1: that's not necessarily surprising. That's about where we thought he

5140
04:17:46,640 --> 04:17:48,920
Speaker 1: would go, maybe a little bit earlier, but not like

5141
04:17:49,320 --> 04:17:52,000
Speaker 1: a lock. Like I didn't buy the hype that he

5142
04:17:52,120 --> 04:17:55,680
Speaker 1: was a top ten guy so much, but because of

5143
04:17:55,720 --> 04:17:57,800
Speaker 1: the position that he plays, I would have thought, like

5144
04:17:58,320 --> 04:18:01,960
Speaker 1: between twelve and eighteen, my biggest surprise is George Carlofts

5145
04:18:02,040 --> 04:18:05,000
Speaker 1: right now still being on the board. I'm not if

5146
04:18:06,680 --> 04:18:08,440
Speaker 1: what Brier had to say. I mean, I go back

5147
04:18:08,440 --> 04:18:10,080
Speaker 1: to that, and I mean, like Brian, you've heard some

5148
04:18:10,120 --> 04:18:11,600
Speaker 1: of that that there's some people who just think like

5149
04:18:11,840 --> 04:18:13,880
Speaker 1: this is who he is, who he is. I mean,

5150
04:18:13,960 --> 04:18:16,160
Speaker 1: you can watch this this guy you talk about somebody

5151
04:18:16,160 --> 04:18:18,160
Speaker 1: will have a chip on his shoulder as a player,

5152
04:18:18,640 --> 04:18:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, and there's a lot of folks that clean myself,

5153
04:18:20,840 --> 04:18:22,960
Speaker 1: I had him as my seventeenth best player on my

5154
04:18:23,080 --> 04:18:27,040
Speaker 1: board and we're talking about George from Yeah, and you know,

5155
04:18:27,240 --> 04:18:30,160
Speaker 1: he mean he is a he is a he's a

5156
04:18:30,240 --> 04:18:32,840
Speaker 1: going Jesse when it comes to getting around the corner

5157
04:18:32,920 --> 04:18:35,560
Speaker 1: and making things happen. And I've never heard that it's

5158
04:18:35,560 --> 04:18:39,240
Speaker 1: an old old but I mean, like I say, the

5159
04:18:39,320 --> 04:18:42,600
Speaker 1: guy plays hard. I mean he plays really really hard,

5160
04:18:42,720 --> 04:18:46,680
Speaker 1: and you know he's he's a really good technician. There

5161
04:18:46,720 --> 04:18:49,360
Speaker 1: are guys, there are guys in this league that don't

5162
04:18:49,400 --> 04:18:52,400
Speaker 1: play with as good as technique as George Carloftens. That's

5163
04:18:52,440 --> 04:18:55,880
Speaker 1: the one thing that allows him to make sack and

5164
04:18:56,000 --> 04:18:59,160
Speaker 1: he gets in position and you know, he's a I

5165
04:18:59,320 --> 04:19:01,200
Speaker 1: like him as a finisher. I think the tape on

5166
04:19:01,320 --> 04:19:03,040
Speaker 1: him is really really good. But there's people that are

5167
04:19:03,120 --> 04:19:05,680
Speaker 1: kind of saying he is what he is, you know,

5168
04:19:06,000 --> 04:19:09,200
Speaker 1: and that you know, we'll see. I wouldn't bet against

5169
04:19:09,240 --> 04:19:11,720
Speaker 1: a guy like him. I really wouldn't. You talk about like,

5170
04:19:12,280 --> 04:19:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of guys don't have his technique

5171
04:19:14,800 --> 04:19:17,720
Speaker 1: and the ability that he's able to, you know, the

5172
04:19:17,800 --> 04:19:20,880
Speaker 1: way he's able to win as a technician, it's so rare,

5173
04:19:21,000 --> 04:19:23,400
Speaker 1: especially when you talk about like defensive ends coming out

5174
04:19:23,440 --> 04:19:25,160
Speaker 1: of college. A lot of these edge rushes when they

5175
04:19:25,200 --> 04:19:26,400
Speaker 1: come out of college. That's one of the most common

5176
04:19:26,440 --> 04:19:28,600
Speaker 1: things they hear from people around the NFL about rookie

5177
04:19:28,640 --> 04:19:30,080
Speaker 1: defensive ends. Is like they don't know how to use

5178
04:19:30,120 --> 04:19:32,000
Speaker 1: their hands. Yeah, they don't have any clue how to

5179
04:19:32,040 --> 04:19:34,040
Speaker 1: use them when they get here, and you gotta, you know,

5180
04:19:34,160 --> 04:19:36,480
Speaker 1: train that a little bit. That's not the case with Karloft,

5181
04:19:36,520 --> 04:19:37,760
Speaker 1: as he knows how to use his hands, he knows

5182
04:19:37,800 --> 04:19:39,800
Speaker 1: how to use his link. He's I mean, I really

5183
04:19:39,840 --> 04:19:41,640
Speaker 1: really like him. I just I kind of got the

5184
04:19:41,720 --> 04:19:43,560
Speaker 1: vibe that the Cowboys weren't nearly as high on him

5185
04:19:43,600 --> 04:19:46,160
Speaker 1: as we all thought he was. Yeah, are there any

5186
04:19:46,240 --> 04:19:49,600
Speaker 1: more glaring names left on y'all's board that you thought

5187
04:19:49,600 --> 04:19:51,200
Speaker 1: we're going to go in the first round? Besides him?

5188
04:19:52,400 --> 04:19:57,600
Speaker 1: Kobe Dean is one. There's no like Georgia now that,

5189
04:19:58,040 --> 04:20:00,560
Speaker 1: now that Jermaine Johnson's gone, I'm not looking at my

5190
04:20:00,640 --> 04:20:03,840
Speaker 1: list and thinking like there's no free fall. I thought

5191
04:20:03,960 --> 04:20:05,960
Speaker 1: Kyler Gordon would go in the first and we're getting

5192
04:20:05,960 --> 04:20:07,680
Speaker 1: close to the we're getting close to the end. So

5193
04:20:07,760 --> 04:20:10,600
Speaker 1: I played the game that everybody plays, where you write

5194
04:20:10,640 --> 04:20:13,360
Speaker 1: down the thirty two names you feel good about the

5195
04:20:13,520 --> 04:20:17,480
Speaker 1: names I've got left that I thought would go. Lewis,

5196
04:20:17,600 --> 04:20:23,680
Speaker 1: Seene Arnold, Dave, Dkatie, Logan Hall, Malik Willis, Desmond, Ritter, Kyler, Gordon,

5197
04:20:24,560 --> 04:20:27,800
Speaker 1: Malik willis still there here. The highest graded player that

5198
04:20:28,000 --> 04:20:32,600
Speaker 1: Dane has left that's not gone yet is Carloftis. And

5199
04:20:32,720 --> 04:20:37,240
Speaker 1: then it's Dax Hill, which we talked about that earlier today,

5200
04:20:37,560 --> 04:20:40,040
Speaker 1: how it sounded like Dax Hill might fall out of

5201
04:20:40,080 --> 04:20:41,800
Speaker 1: the first round. That's who the Patriots are gonna do

5202
04:20:41,880 --> 04:20:45,000
Speaker 1: here at twenty nine just might be the safety in

5203
04:20:45,120 --> 04:20:49,560
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft. The New England Patriots

5204
04:20:49,760 --> 04:20:56,560
Speaker 1: like cool strange bro, Sorry bro, really I should not

5205
04:20:56,640 --> 04:20:58,600
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have laughed. Why they were? Well, will you

5206
04:20:58,640 --> 04:21:01,760
Speaker 1: explain the reactions? That's pretty far down the board for

5207
04:21:01,800 --> 04:21:04,120
Speaker 1: a first round player. John Schneider in the draft room,

5208
04:21:04,200 --> 04:21:10,720
Speaker 1: he he is, uh, offensive lineman, interior offensive lineman, so

5209
04:21:10,800 --> 04:21:13,360
Speaker 1: not even just offensive lineman, number seventeen on my board,

5210
04:21:13,520 --> 04:21:17,880
Speaker 1: seventeen what one interior offensive line? He's one sixty seven overall,

5211
04:21:18,280 --> 04:21:20,720
Speaker 1: Dane has him seventy three. So we're all in the

5212
04:21:20,880 --> 04:21:24,120
Speaker 1: entire draft. Wow, Belichick is an idiot. But you know

5213
04:21:24,160 --> 04:21:26,680
Speaker 1: what we all again, we all said Frederick third round player.

5214
04:21:26,720 --> 04:21:28,880
Speaker 1: So here we all upset over Tyler Smith. And look

5215
04:21:28,960 --> 04:21:31,080
Speaker 1: what Belichick just did. That should make you feel better

5216
04:21:31,080 --> 04:21:32,840
Speaker 1: about the drill. Look, there was a clear market in

5217
04:21:32,880 --> 04:21:34,520
Speaker 1: the first round for Tyler Smith. I don't know if

5218
04:21:34,560 --> 04:21:37,320
Speaker 1: there was a clear market Cole Strange. Yeah, oh, Brian,

5219
04:21:37,640 --> 04:21:40,640
Speaker 1: we're supposed to get back to your story with Tyler

5220
04:21:40,760 --> 04:21:43,480
Speaker 1: Smith in terms of Jerry maybe taking Wait did we

5221
04:21:43,520 --> 04:21:46,880
Speaker 1: already do that? Yeah? Oh you're fading. Drink some more

5222
04:21:46,880 --> 04:21:51,920
Speaker 1: oft an early morning. We started it on the radio

5223
04:21:52,080 --> 04:21:53,840
Speaker 1: and we finished it on the dot com. That's true,

5224
04:21:54,040 --> 04:21:56,000
Speaker 1: not that on that, um no, But I mean like

5225
04:21:57,200 --> 04:21:59,840
Speaker 1: he Jerry's got an amazing way with words. So like

5226
04:22:00,040 --> 04:22:03,520
Speaker 1: basically we think he bullied the Titans into admitting that

5227
04:22:03,600 --> 04:22:06,400
Speaker 1: they won in Tyler Smith. Yeah, or maybe not bullied.

5228
04:22:06,480 --> 04:22:09,120
Speaker 1: He he coerced them into admitting it, admitting and then

5229
04:22:09,440 --> 04:22:11,520
Speaker 1: I think and then High I think you made the point.

5230
04:22:11,600 --> 04:22:14,160
Speaker 1: That's why there there was laughter in the war room

5231
04:22:14,160 --> 04:22:16,000
Speaker 1: because they were like, a nice try. You were coming

5232
04:22:16,080 --> 04:22:19,120
Speaker 1: up for our guy. It ain't happening. So Kansas City's

5233
04:22:19,160 --> 04:22:22,760
Speaker 1: not wasting any time. Good let's get this thing over with.

5234
04:22:22,880 --> 04:22:24,480
Speaker 1: Let's get to the press conference. We can get out

5235
04:22:24,520 --> 04:22:26,640
Speaker 1: of here before eleven o'clock. Here is Roger Goodell with

5236
04:22:26,680 --> 04:22:32,280
Speaker 1: the Chiefs pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft

5237
04:22:33,440 --> 04:22:41,440
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs like George Carloftso you should have

5238
04:22:41,520 --> 04:22:44,240
Speaker 1: seen brought us his face just then the rich get richer.

5239
04:22:44,400 --> 04:22:47,600
Speaker 1: What do you think, Brian, Oh No, I mean, that's

5240
04:22:47,640 --> 04:22:51,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think there's some I'm disappointed. I'm

5241
04:22:51,880 --> 04:22:54,360
Speaker 1: not disappointed that I had him where he where he is.

5242
04:22:54,760 --> 04:22:58,880
Speaker 1: I just I'm disappointed that that maybe some other teams

5243
04:22:58,960 --> 04:23:01,240
Speaker 1: didn't see it the way I did. And I mean

5244
04:23:01,360 --> 04:23:04,120
Speaker 1: that sounds weird to say that way, but I kind

5245
04:23:04,160 --> 04:23:06,920
Speaker 1: of felt like this guy was like the sixteenth best

5246
04:23:06,960 --> 04:23:09,600
Speaker 1: player on the board. I really did. I believe that.

5247
04:23:10,080 --> 04:23:12,760
Speaker 1: I'm really there's another team that I think drafts pretty

5248
04:23:12,800 --> 04:23:15,840
Speaker 1: well that sees value in players. So when you make

5249
04:23:15,880 --> 04:23:18,240
Speaker 1: a miss like that, you know, when you feel like

5250
04:23:18,280 --> 04:23:19,840
Speaker 1: you should have had a guy higher, or you had

5251
04:23:19,840 --> 04:23:21,680
Speaker 1: a guy high, and then somebody picks him, you're kind

5252
04:23:21,680 --> 04:23:24,640
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, maybe I'm not totally off base with

5253
04:23:24,720 --> 04:23:28,200
Speaker 1: some of these cats. All right, So Cincinnati, the defending

5254
04:23:28,240 --> 04:23:31,800
Speaker 1: AFC champs, are on the clock, and then it's gonna

5255
04:23:31,800 --> 04:23:34,280
Speaker 1: be the Minnesota Vikings. I'm also gonna have to get

5256
04:23:34,320 --> 04:23:37,040
Speaker 1: you guys to prepare us for Day two in terms

5257
04:23:37,200 --> 04:23:42,640
Speaker 1: of positions that are left over. Cowboy targets best players

5258
04:23:43,080 --> 04:23:46,360
Speaker 1: on the board. So we'll set all that up and

5259
04:23:46,520 --> 04:23:48,320
Speaker 1: we'll keep it here. Or what do you want to do, Timmy,

5260
04:23:48,720 --> 04:23:51,160
Speaker 1: So we'll go ahead and keep it here with Cincinnati

5261
04:23:51,240 --> 04:23:55,640
Speaker 1: after the Kansas City Chiefs, go with George Carr Laftis

5262
04:23:56,600 --> 04:23:59,920
Speaker 1: and Tyler Smith as your newest Dallas Cowboy. You talk

5263
04:24:00,000 --> 04:24:01,960
Speaker 1: to the people over at Exos where he trained, who's

5264
04:24:01,960 --> 04:24:03,720
Speaker 1: over here in Fresco, and you just ask them, Like

5265
04:24:04,040 --> 04:24:06,480
Speaker 1: I pulled a few people over there earlier today and

5266
04:24:06,560 --> 04:24:08,760
Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, give me the standout guys, like

5267
04:24:08,880 --> 04:24:11,800
Speaker 1: the standout character and like hard work guys. And I

5268
04:24:11,880 --> 04:24:14,920
Speaker 1: had three different people over there telling me like karloftas Karloftascar,

5269
04:24:15,040 --> 04:24:17,200
Speaker 1: like that dude's a worker. It's like he's being punished

5270
04:24:17,240 --> 04:24:20,840
Speaker 1: for being too boring, right, he's too solid. He's just well,

5271
04:24:21,080 --> 04:24:23,640
Speaker 1: I just mind my notes. I mean, I will say this,

5272
04:24:24,120 --> 04:24:25,920
Speaker 1: I am impressed with the way this guy rushed as

5273
04:24:25,920 --> 04:24:28,200
Speaker 1: a passer due to his technique, with the way he plays.

5274
04:24:28,680 --> 04:24:31,040
Speaker 1: This guy understands how to use his pass rush moves

5275
04:24:31,080 --> 04:24:33,120
Speaker 1: along the way. It's just not rush up the field

5276
04:24:33,160 --> 04:24:36,400
Speaker 1: and hope for the best it's a swat, swim, rip pull.

5277
04:24:36,800 --> 04:24:38,920
Speaker 1: He's going to do something in order to free himself

5278
04:24:38,960 --> 04:24:41,040
Speaker 1: in the blocker. He's got quickness, he's got a burst.

5279
04:24:41,480 --> 04:24:43,480
Speaker 1: He could get the corner. He knows where to rush.

5280
04:24:43,520 --> 04:24:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't see him running past the quarterback and trying

5281
04:24:46,040 --> 04:24:48,600
Speaker 1: to reach back. But this guy is man. He could

5282
04:24:48,600 --> 04:24:50,640
Speaker 1: get pressure. And there's plays with a little bit of

5283
04:24:50,680 --> 04:24:53,240
Speaker 1: a burst. But there's people that kind of feel like, well,

5284
04:24:53,280 --> 04:24:55,640
Speaker 1: that's just who he is. But I mean, there's a

5285
04:24:55,720 --> 04:24:58,400
Speaker 1: lot of really, really good traits about this guy. I

5286
04:24:58,480 --> 04:25:00,400
Speaker 1: think the learning curve for him is going to be

5287
04:25:00,560 --> 04:25:04,440
Speaker 1: really really small because of how well he plays with technique.

5288
04:25:04,720 --> 04:25:07,960
Speaker 1: I adore it when Brian reads his report verbatim, like

5289
04:25:08,080 --> 04:25:10,520
Speaker 1: that's how you know that he's invested in this. Yeah,

5290
04:25:10,560 --> 04:25:13,240
Speaker 1: it's fantastic. When he's a power rusher too, Like he's

5291
04:25:13,280 --> 04:25:16,560
Speaker 1: got extra strength up on the top half that allows

5292
04:25:16,680 --> 04:25:18,720
Speaker 1: him to or allowed him in the big ten to

5293
04:25:18,840 --> 04:25:21,480
Speaker 1: make an impact. I think he's as ready of an

5294
04:25:21,600 --> 04:25:23,920
Speaker 1: NFL pass rusher as even some of the top guys

5295
04:25:23,960 --> 04:25:27,000
Speaker 1: that were taking tonight. Does it mean anything at all

5296
04:25:27,120 --> 04:25:29,160
Speaker 1: that when do they usually roll out of the war room.

5297
04:25:29,200 --> 04:25:32,040
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean anything that they're still in there. A lot

5298
04:25:32,080 --> 04:25:34,680
Speaker 1: of times you'll hang out and make sure nobody's calling, okay,

5299
04:25:35,160 --> 04:25:36,480
Speaker 1: just because a lot of times I've seen them make

5300
04:25:36,520 --> 04:25:39,640
Speaker 1: the pick in his roll and it's like, uh, any

5301
04:25:39,800 --> 04:25:42,080
Speaker 1: is anyone calling the room? Sometimes they just you know,

5302
04:25:42,560 --> 04:25:44,680
Speaker 1: it's like it's bail three more picks and they're like

5303
04:25:45,240 --> 04:25:48,240
Speaker 1: some catfish. Oh is that the post draft meal? I

5304
04:25:48,280 --> 04:25:53,280
Speaker 1: don't think it was. It was it was, Yeah, they

5305
04:25:53,320 --> 04:25:56,240
Speaker 1: serve catfish before catfish for the pre draft dinner. Yeah,

5306
04:25:56,360 --> 04:25:58,640
Speaker 1: oh nice. We started too soon for me to get

5307
04:25:58,680 --> 04:26:01,840
Speaker 1: in the unfortunate. Well, we got Papa Johnson. We did.

5308
04:26:02,720 --> 04:26:05,880
Speaker 1: We wanted very good stuff crusted as well. Who were

5309
04:26:05,920 --> 04:26:08,800
Speaker 1: my who were my Cincinnati Benghi's gonna draft here? Yeah,

5310
04:26:08,840 --> 04:26:11,680
Speaker 1: you're a big time fan my fighting Joe Burrows. Well

5311
04:26:11,840 --> 04:26:15,040
Speaker 1: they don't need a right tackle. Who's the red flat guy? Pickins?

5312
04:26:15,480 --> 04:26:18,960
Speaker 1: H Yeah? Pickins go get go get a corner. Kyler

5313
04:26:19,040 --> 04:26:21,520
Speaker 1: Gordon and Andrew Booth are both sitting there. Did they

5314
04:26:21,640 --> 04:26:24,120
Speaker 1: fix all of their offensive line? Even though they took

5315
04:26:24,440 --> 04:26:27,560
Speaker 1: Leo Collins? They got Lyle Collins and they signed they

5316
04:26:27,600 --> 04:26:30,000
Speaker 1: signed the guard out of Tampa and free agency. I

5317
04:26:30,120 --> 04:26:33,160
Speaker 1: think they could use another offensive Lineman, but I think

5318
04:26:33,200 --> 04:26:35,680
Speaker 1: all of the plausible ones are gone. Of course, that

5319
04:26:35,760 --> 04:26:39,840
Speaker 1: didn't stop Bill Belichick's I saw a corner mocked there. Yeah,

5320
04:26:39,880 --> 04:26:42,400
Speaker 1: the Hitler Gordon would be one. They have Cheetoh obviously,

5321
04:26:42,600 --> 04:26:45,520
Speaker 1: but they have a need on across the field for

5322
04:26:45,720 --> 04:26:48,360
Speaker 1: another cornerback, maybe like an Andrew Booth or a Roger

5323
04:26:48,520 --> 04:26:50,960
Speaker 1: McCreary would be interesting. This is a team that doesn't

5324
04:26:51,000 --> 04:26:54,120
Speaker 1: care about character, by the way, so if you if

5325
04:26:54,160 --> 04:26:58,000
Speaker 1: you have somebody on that board that they might uh,

5326
04:26:58,640 --> 04:27:00,920
Speaker 1: they always like big school guy two. I'm trying of

5327
04:27:00,920 --> 04:27:03,520
Speaker 1: the kind of things. Yeah, Georgia, they liked it. They

5328
04:27:03,600 --> 04:27:06,200
Speaker 1: liked they like we like big ten guys too. You're

5329
04:27:06,240 --> 04:27:08,600
Speaker 1: trying to manifest this and I don't appreciate it. Maybe

5330
04:27:08,600 --> 04:27:10,760
Speaker 1: I want them to fall. Maybe they draft ckx Hill

5331
04:27:10,800 --> 04:27:12,640
Speaker 1: so they don't have to pay Jesse Bates. Well that's

5332
04:27:12,760 --> 04:27:15,680
Speaker 1: that that could be. I mean traditionally the Brown family

5333
04:27:15,760 --> 04:27:18,080
Speaker 1: their Ohio state family. But I don't know if they

5334
04:27:18,120 --> 04:27:21,000
Speaker 1: would take a Michigan kid like that. But you know,

5335
04:27:21,200 --> 04:27:24,160
Speaker 1: they really don't care. It's a small, small scann those

5336
04:27:24,200 --> 04:27:27,440
Speaker 1: coaches are gonna make this pick. So I wouldn't be

5337
04:27:27,560 --> 04:27:31,080
Speaker 1: surprised if you know, like we'll see who are just

5338
04:27:31,280 --> 04:27:34,920
Speaker 1: from from maybe would they take they take a tackle again?

5339
04:27:35,000 --> 04:27:37,520
Speaker 1: I know they've added some guys and stuff like that, Raymond.

5340
04:27:37,720 --> 04:27:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying I think they have Cannard

5341
04:27:40,760 --> 04:27:43,360
Speaker 1: is Kentucky, which is right across the way from them.

5342
04:27:43,440 --> 04:27:46,400
Speaker 1: They have they have Jonah Williams. Yeah, they and they

5343
04:27:46,480 --> 04:27:48,320
Speaker 1: have Lyle. I don't feel like they don't really need

5344
04:27:48,360 --> 04:27:50,880
Speaker 1: a tackle and guard inside help maybe the center or

5345
04:27:50,960 --> 04:27:52,440
Speaker 1: something like that. I think they would. I think they

5346
04:27:52,480 --> 04:27:54,360
Speaker 1: would have loved to have linder bomb fall there, but

5347
04:27:54,480 --> 04:27:57,360
Speaker 1: you didn't, obviously from my own entertainment. Who are the

5348
04:27:57,440 --> 04:28:00,960
Speaker 1: biggest red flag guys in this whole draft, Bobby, I

5349
04:28:01,040 --> 04:28:03,400
Speaker 1: mean the ones that were talked about and we're for

5350
04:28:03,720 --> 04:28:07,280
Speaker 1: wildly different reasons where Packers just took We're two Georgia kids.

5351
04:28:07,320 --> 04:28:10,840
Speaker 1: It was George Pickens and DeVante Wyatt. Yeah yeah. Pickens

5352
04:28:10,920 --> 04:28:14,760
Speaker 1: was about maturity. It sounded like and you know, needs

5353
04:28:14,760 --> 04:28:16,920
Speaker 1: to kind of grow up, the opposite of Whyatt was

5354
04:28:17,480 --> 04:28:22,120
Speaker 1: had you know, legal issues and speaking of that, Uh,

5355
04:28:23,240 --> 04:28:28,480
Speaker 1: we're done worrying about Kelvin Joseph's availability. I didn't say that, Yeah,

5356
04:28:29,160 --> 04:28:31,720
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what to make of that.

5357
04:28:31,920 --> 04:28:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it sounds like it's it's been

5358
04:28:34,200 --> 04:28:36,800
Speaker 1: put to bed. I was told not to just to

5359
04:28:36,960 --> 04:28:39,280
Speaker 1: kind of let it go and then we'll see what happens.

5360
04:28:39,400 --> 04:28:41,520
Speaker 1: Kind of a thing. Okay, I'm just gonna keep my

5361
04:28:41,680 --> 04:28:44,200
Speaker 1: radar up for the league because that's what I mean. Yeah,

5362
04:28:44,480 --> 04:28:46,440
Speaker 1: but how about but how about how do we feel

5363
04:28:46,440 --> 04:28:49,960
Speaker 1: a corner? Well, they tried to add one last year

5364
04:28:50,560 --> 04:28:52,800
Speaker 1: with the starters they had. They mean, they were they

5365
04:28:52,840 --> 04:28:55,400
Speaker 1: were like they were looking for one't the if the situation,

5366
04:28:55,800 --> 04:28:58,360
Speaker 1: if the situation presents itself, go for it. But like

5367
04:28:58,520 --> 04:29:01,480
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't need that that desperately that they

5368
04:29:01,560 --> 04:29:04,320
Speaker 1: need to make something happen. I mean, if somehow Kyler

5369
04:29:04,400 --> 04:29:07,040
Speaker 1: Gordon keeps falling, if Kyler Gordon was around them, they would,

5370
04:29:07,080 --> 04:29:09,840
Speaker 1: I think, because if a guy that's not supposed to

5371
04:29:09,920 --> 04:29:11,840
Speaker 1: be there wind's up there, go for it. Yeah. But

5372
04:29:11,920 --> 04:29:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm only asking that because I've seen the corners mocked

5373
04:29:14,160 --> 04:29:17,800
Speaker 1: to Since and corners mocked to Minnesota. Who's gonna have

5374
04:29:17,880 --> 04:29:20,040
Speaker 1: the final pick of the first round right after this,

5375
04:29:21,000 --> 04:29:23,760
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. I mean, just Logan Hall

5376
04:29:23,800 --> 04:29:27,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't go here right Defensive tackle he could Houston. I

5377
04:29:27,080 --> 04:29:28,800
Speaker 1: mean this, I don't know, he's been mocked in the

5378
04:29:28,840 --> 04:29:31,240
Speaker 1: back end of the FIRS. What I'm saying, I mean,

5379
04:29:31,800 --> 04:29:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, kind of thinking that would be particularly the

5380
04:29:34,960 --> 04:29:37,800
Speaker 1: right around. Like before we really zeroed in on Tyler Smith,

5381
04:29:37,840 --> 04:29:39,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring him up and be like, could

5382
04:29:39,680 --> 04:29:42,920
Speaker 1: they like Logan Hall? But they drafted Tyler instead. They

5383
04:29:42,960 --> 04:29:44,920
Speaker 1: do like him. They like him as a three technique,

5384
04:29:45,000 --> 04:29:47,440
Speaker 1: which he's kind of one of those tweeterers that you

5385
04:29:47,520 --> 04:29:49,840
Speaker 1: don't really know exactly what you know. The Cowboys were

5386
04:29:49,880 --> 04:29:52,080
Speaker 1: looking at Logan Hall as a three tech. That's myself

5387
04:29:52,280 --> 04:29:54,840
Speaker 1: where they like him and where they've had him slotted

5388
04:29:54,880 --> 04:29:58,120
Speaker 1: in through the draft process. So Cowboys tamar gonna pick

5389
04:29:58,280 --> 04:30:02,200
Speaker 1: at fifty six eighty eight. They're gonna have one pick

5390
04:30:02,240 --> 04:30:07,440
Speaker 1: in the fourth, four picks in the fifth, and a six. Yeah,

5391
04:30:07,520 --> 04:30:09,720
Speaker 1: that's the rest of the draft. Come back on Saturday, Sean,

5392
04:30:09,880 --> 04:30:13,720
Speaker 1: I don't think so the whole time. Roger Goodell with

5393
04:30:13,920 --> 04:30:18,760
Speaker 1: the Bengals selection, no more bow ties for me. Appreciate you.

5394
04:30:18,840 --> 04:30:24,040
Speaker 1: Where in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the AFC

5395
04:30:24,320 --> 04:30:31,160
Speaker 1: champion Cincinnati Bengal I Bengals Deckson Hill. Here we go look,

5396
04:30:31,280 --> 04:30:34,160
Speaker 1: see the Bengals had to pick somebody Brian loved. You

5397
04:30:34,240 --> 04:30:36,120
Speaker 1: know what, that's my favorite team in the league. Right,

5398
04:30:37,280 --> 04:30:39,840
Speaker 1: that's a byou Bengal. You know, I mentioned that it's

5399
04:30:39,880 --> 04:30:43,280
Speaker 1: funny because the Brown family really their father, the founder

5400
04:30:43,360 --> 04:30:46,440
Speaker 1: of the Bengals, coached at Ohio State, and I just

5401
04:30:46,640 --> 04:30:49,040
Speaker 1: wondered if they were ever gonna take a Michigan man

5402
04:30:49,240 --> 04:30:51,640
Speaker 1: like that. But they did. Man, that's a great that's

5403
04:30:51,680 --> 04:30:53,640
Speaker 1: a great, you know, great value for a player. Right.

5404
04:30:53,680 --> 04:30:56,440
Speaker 1: That was my sixteenth best player on the board for sure.

5405
04:30:56,640 --> 04:31:00,320
Speaker 1: Really appreciate that top twenty pick at thirty one. Yeah, good,

5406
04:31:00,480 --> 04:31:03,760
Speaker 1: good pick. Immediately going to come in and play. I'll

5407
04:31:03,800 --> 04:31:05,960
Speaker 1: give my scouting report as I'm pulling it. Yeah, go ahead.

5408
04:31:06,240 --> 04:31:09,360
Speaker 1: Extreme athleticism, flexibility to play over the top end in

5409
04:31:09,480 --> 04:31:12,400
Speaker 1: the box. He has instincts in quick trigger where he

5410
04:31:12,520 --> 04:31:14,920
Speaker 1: doesn't waste a whole lot of steps getting to the ball.

5411
04:31:15,000 --> 04:31:17,240
Speaker 1: He sees a little, sees a lot as one of

5412
04:31:17,280 --> 04:31:20,440
Speaker 1: those terms you hear from safeties. Doesn't look like he's

5413
04:31:20,920 --> 04:31:24,640
Speaker 1: he's not changed by the not phased by change of direction.

5414
04:31:24,880 --> 04:31:27,160
Speaker 1: And modern NFL has found a nice role for guys

5415
04:31:27,240 --> 04:31:29,000
Speaker 1: like him, and I think He's going to do a

5416
04:31:29,280 --> 04:31:31,800
Speaker 1: very a good thing on the back end of that

5417
04:31:31,920 --> 04:31:35,400
Speaker 1: Cincinnati defense. Like Dave just said, to kind of help

5418
04:31:35,440 --> 04:31:37,960
Speaker 1: out with some contracts. This guy plays with the toughness

5419
04:31:38,040 --> 04:31:40,240
Speaker 1: and edge to him. He's quick to read the route,

5420
04:31:40,240 --> 04:31:43,560
Speaker 1: so fight to get in position. He tackles really well.

5421
04:31:43,720 --> 04:31:46,760
Speaker 1: Ball skills are there. Kyle's got him right there. I

5422
04:31:47,040 --> 04:31:48,760
Speaker 1: think that when you watch him play, this guy does

5423
04:31:48,800 --> 04:31:51,480
Speaker 1: a really nice job of driving on the play and

5424
04:31:51,680 --> 04:31:54,560
Speaker 1: getting you know, getting himself in position to make that play.

5425
04:31:54,760 --> 04:31:58,040
Speaker 1: He will knock balls down and play offhand and not

5426
04:31:58,320 --> 04:32:01,000
Speaker 1: like wrap his arm around the back of the receiver

5427
04:32:01,560 --> 04:32:04,400
Speaker 1: to get penalties and things like that. I mean, I

5428
04:32:04,480 --> 04:32:06,560
Speaker 1: said in my final line, I like his ability. He

5429
04:32:06,720 --> 04:32:09,480
Speaker 1: plays smart and he finished his plays big, big time

5430
04:32:09,520 --> 04:32:11,840
Speaker 1: player in my book, Minnesota Vikings, they're not going to

5431
04:32:11,920 --> 04:32:14,440
Speaker 1: waste much time to pick is already in for them.

5432
04:32:15,160 --> 04:32:18,080
Speaker 1: And then after that we will give you a look

5433
04:32:18,560 --> 04:32:21,480
Speaker 1: for tomorrow and the preview with Cowboys on the clock,

5434
04:32:21,600 --> 04:32:24,160
Speaker 1: best players left on the board. And this is what

5435
04:32:24,240 --> 04:32:27,600
Speaker 1: everyone is talking about with this draft is tomorrow really

5436
04:32:27,800 --> 04:32:31,640
Speaker 1: and rounds you know, three through five, which of course

5437
04:32:31,760 --> 04:32:34,680
Speaker 1: is going to take place on Sunday. Excuse me Saturday

5438
04:32:34,840 --> 04:32:38,160
Speaker 1: as well, Sean Trefkyle Yoman's, David Hellman, Brian brought us

5439
04:32:38,320 --> 04:32:41,800
Speaker 1: and Bobby Belt here on Dallas Cowboys do they're doing

5440
04:32:41,880 --> 04:32:45,120
Speaker 1: this skull chant or whatever it is in Minnesota for

5441
04:32:45,200 --> 04:32:48,720
Speaker 1: pick thirty two. They're all standing up doing this chant

5442
04:32:48,880 --> 04:32:52,800
Speaker 1: here getting ready to close out the draft. So there

5443
04:32:52,840 --> 04:32:55,560
Speaker 1: you go. They have a new leadership there. Mike Zimmer

5444
04:32:56,040 --> 04:32:58,920
Speaker 1: who was a Cowboy defensive coordinator candidate that was brought up.

5445
04:32:59,440 --> 04:33:01,480
Speaker 1: He's being play So you had a new head coach

5446
04:33:01,880 --> 04:33:04,680
Speaker 1: in there. Um and there was some Kellen Moore rumors

5447
04:33:04,840 --> 04:33:08,480
Speaker 1: connected to Minnesota. So another year for Kirk Cousins to

5448
04:33:08,600 --> 04:33:11,600
Speaker 1: get made fun of with the with the Vikings to

5449
04:33:11,680 --> 04:33:13,880
Speaker 1: see what they can do. Unless this is Malik Willis

5450
04:33:15,000 --> 04:33:17,160
Speaker 1: on the back end, get that fifth year option and

5451
04:33:17,280 --> 04:33:20,840
Speaker 1: make something interesting. I know that's they They need somebody

5452
04:33:20,880 --> 04:33:24,480
Speaker 1: in the secondary. I don't know. Maybe this will be Gordon,

5453
04:33:24,600 --> 04:33:27,239
Speaker 1: maybe it'll be Booth. It feels like about three lifetimes

5454
04:33:27,280 --> 04:33:29,800
Speaker 1: ago that Kellen Moore was tied to the Vikings job,

5455
04:33:29,880 --> 04:33:33,200
Speaker 1: Like I completely forgot that happen. I'm trying and I'm

5456
04:33:33,240 --> 04:33:36,000
Speaker 1: looking for Malik Willis teams now that Kyle said that

5457
04:33:36,200 --> 04:33:38,960
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is going to start tomorrow, by the way,

5458
04:33:39,280 --> 04:33:43,000
Speaker 1: so the Bucks will start then Minnesota, so they have

5459
04:33:43,240 --> 04:33:45,560
Speaker 1: two of the next three picks here, they're gonna pick here,

5460
04:33:45,680 --> 04:33:50,040
Speaker 1: then Tampa, then the Vikings pick second tomorrow, then Tennessee,

5461
04:33:50,720 --> 04:33:54,840
Speaker 1: the New York Giants, the Houston Texans sitting there with others.

5462
04:33:55,320 --> 04:33:57,960
Speaker 1: If I hear any more, Davis Mills love that they're

5463
04:33:58,000 --> 04:33:59,600
Speaker 1: trying to sell this. I was a big fan of

5464
04:33:59,680 --> 04:34:03,160
Speaker 1: his year. You were, I was like, well, well, like, well, no,

5465
04:34:03,360 --> 04:34:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm coming out of coming out of school. Okay, I'll

5466
04:34:05,520 --> 04:34:08,120
Speaker 1: put it. I'm not trying to convince you that he's good.

5467
04:34:08,320 --> 04:34:11,440
Speaker 1: But if I were the Texans, I would rather stink

5468
04:34:11,560 --> 04:34:13,239
Speaker 1: this year and have a better shot at a better

5469
04:34:13,360 --> 04:34:16,160
Speaker 1: quarterback and next year's draft than draft a guy. Now, okay,

5470
04:34:17,280 --> 04:34:19,720
Speaker 1: well there goes my insult towards the Texans. You guys

5471
04:34:19,759 --> 04:34:22,120
Speaker 1: just killed it. Me and Brian were higher on him,

5472
04:34:22,160 --> 04:34:27,320
Speaker 1: I think than most people. Is terrible problem, the terrible

5473
04:34:27,360 --> 04:34:30,239
Speaker 1: thank you, you're welcome. We're all way too level headed.

5474
04:34:31,320 --> 04:34:33,280
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Outside of like the top

5475
04:34:33,360 --> 04:34:36,559
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks like Lawrence and Fields and Wilson and Lance

5476
04:34:36,640 --> 04:34:38,760
Speaker 1: and Jones. Last year, the guys that win the top fifteen.

5477
04:34:38,880 --> 04:34:42,120
Speaker 1: Mills was my next guy up Tennessee. Tennessee could want

5478
04:34:42,120 --> 04:34:45,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback tomorrow. The Giants, maybe the Seahawks picked twice

5479
04:34:46,080 --> 04:34:51,960
Speaker 1: in the forties m back to back, and then Detroit's

5480
04:34:52,000 --> 04:34:55,280
Speaker 1: still hanging there at forty six. If Detroit could make

5481
04:34:55,360 --> 04:34:58,240
Speaker 1: two picks in the first round and still get a

5482
04:34:58,320 --> 04:35:00,600
Speaker 1: quarterback in the second round, that they'd be pretty happy.

5483
04:35:00,680 --> 04:35:05,400
Speaker 1: And just to summarize NFC eastwise, uh, we're not feeling

5484
04:35:05,640 --> 04:35:08,280
Speaker 1: very good about what the Giants and the Eagles did

5485
04:35:08,520 --> 04:35:11,440
Speaker 1: and fine with the commanders, correct, is that the consensus

5486
04:35:11,520 --> 04:35:14,160
Speaker 1: in the room. I think Johan Dotson's a good player. Yeah,

5487
04:35:14,400 --> 04:35:16,640
Speaker 1: to the commanders, I don't think we should necessarily write

5488
04:35:16,720 --> 04:35:19,759
Speaker 1: him off immediately, But in comparison, I'm not writing I'm

5489
04:35:19,800 --> 04:35:22,240
Speaker 1: not writing him off. I don't think the Commanders are

5490
04:35:22,280 --> 04:35:25,760
Speaker 1: significantly better after that pick, whereas after what Philly and

5491
04:35:25,800 --> 04:35:28,080
Speaker 1: New York have done tonight, I think and the Giants

5492
04:35:28,160 --> 04:35:32,800
Speaker 1: just to reset, got Thibadeau, got Evan Neil, and then

5493
04:35:32,919 --> 04:35:37,560
Speaker 1: the Eagles got Jordan Davis and a J. Brown. Yeah, man,

5494
04:35:37,919 --> 04:35:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean when you talk about Washington, I

5495
04:35:40,320 --> 04:35:42,280
Speaker 1: was going back to that well, we got Roger Goodell

5496
04:35:42,320 --> 04:35:44,000
Speaker 1: coming to the podiums. All right, let's go ahead and

5497
04:35:44,440 --> 04:35:48,040
Speaker 1: complete this first round with the Viking selection at thirty two.

5498
04:35:48,200 --> 04:35:54,120
Speaker 1: What's Roger wearing around his neck? That's a tie. Oh No,

5499
04:36:00,000 --> 04:36:06,560
Speaker 1: Minnesota Viking select Lewis Scene, safety defensive back Georgia. So

5500
04:36:06,640 --> 04:36:09,200
Speaker 1: we had one last picture they run on safeties at

5501
04:36:09,240 --> 04:36:11,360
Speaker 1: the end of the first round. That all right, let's

5502
04:36:11,400 --> 04:36:15,360
Speaker 1: come back and reset. We'll get these guys winners losers.

5503
04:36:15,600 --> 04:36:17,560
Speaker 1: Day two preview had us a set up for the

5504
04:36:17,600 --> 04:36:22,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys tomorrow and then of course the press conference upstairs

5505
04:36:22,840 --> 04:36:25,800
Speaker 1: with Jerry, Stephen and McCarthy explaining why they went with

5506
04:36:26,120 --> 04:36:30,000
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith, the newest Dallas Cowboys offensive lineman. This is

5507
04:36:30,040 --> 04:36:32,560
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft on one oh five

5508
04:36:32,640 --> 04:36:41,640
Speaker 1: through the fan and the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. Lewis

5509
04:36:41,759 --> 04:36:46,000
Speaker 1: Scene is the fifth member of that Georgia defense, taken

5510
04:36:46,040 --> 04:36:48,520
Speaker 1: in the first round thirty first best player. How about that,

5511
04:36:51,120 --> 04:36:53,440
Speaker 1: like a captain of that defense is still sitting there

5512
04:36:53,480 --> 04:36:57,320
Speaker 1: for tomorrow. Yes, it is, wow, because he's five eleven four. Yeah,

5513
04:36:57,440 --> 04:36:59,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna make somebody look smart as hell. Shout out

5514
04:36:59,840 --> 04:37:03,640
Speaker 1: to uh our buddy Dane Brugler twenty eight of his

5515
04:37:03,759 --> 04:37:07,240
Speaker 1: top thirty two went tonight. It's pretty good at his job,

5516
04:37:07,280 --> 04:37:11,320
Speaker 1: fellas he is. Nobody can predict Cole Strange and Lewis

5517
04:37:11,680 --> 04:37:15,520
Speaker 1: was thirty three for him. Yeah, what was the random

5518
04:37:15,759 --> 04:37:19,280
Speaker 1: side note question the size difference, because I'm gonna have

5519
04:37:19,320 --> 04:37:21,160
Speaker 1: to answer this to a lot of listeners tomorrow with

5520
04:37:21,360 --> 04:37:27,920
Speaker 1: Frederick and Linderbaum. Oh it wasn't was three twelve. I

5521
04:37:28,000 --> 04:37:31,200
Speaker 1: think three twelve and he was he was what an

5522
04:37:31,240 --> 04:37:34,879
Speaker 1: inch and a half? I think he was six zero

5523
04:37:35,000 --> 04:37:37,160
Speaker 1: three three if I remember that would be sixty three.

5524
04:37:37,400 --> 04:37:40,640
Speaker 1: Pro Football Reference puts him at six four three twenty.

5525
04:37:40,720 --> 04:37:47,480
Speaker 1: Obviously that's not ninety six. Okay, yeah, six two two

5526
04:37:47,560 --> 04:37:50,440
Speaker 1: ninety six. I mean it's a significant size difference, but

5527
04:37:50,560 --> 04:37:53,320
Speaker 1: not as much as you would necessarily thin. Arms were

5528
04:37:53,360 --> 04:37:55,800
Speaker 1: two inches longer, his height was two inches more, he

5529
04:37:55,960 --> 04:38:00,040
Speaker 1: was fifteen pounds heavier. I'm just googling Tyler Smith with

5530
04:38:00,120 --> 04:38:02,720
Speaker 1: a lot of this and the headlines. I mean, it

5531
04:38:03,840 --> 04:38:06,560
Speaker 1: may not be funny to you listening, but mel Kiper's

5532
04:38:06,600 --> 04:38:11,280
Speaker 1: final mock causes fan freak out some different analysts on Twitter.

5533
04:38:11,600 --> 04:38:15,360
Speaker 1: If they ever did this, I'm done. Uh if they

5534
04:38:15,480 --> 04:38:18,400
Speaker 1: draft him I'm not gonna put lipstick on this pig.

5535
04:38:19,400 --> 04:38:22,600
Speaker 1: I'll submit my retirement papers if they do this. The

5536
04:38:22,720 --> 04:38:25,960
Speaker 1: Cowboy mascot rowdy with his head down. So it's just

5537
04:38:26,040 --> 04:38:29,840
Speaker 1: funny seeing some of this reaction to Kuiper's more. We're

5538
04:38:29,880 --> 04:38:32,920
Speaker 1: all colleagues. We share information between each other, like we

5539
04:38:33,120 --> 04:38:36,120
Speaker 1: had we heard his name. Yep, sure they don't. We

5540
04:38:36,200 --> 04:38:38,360
Speaker 1: don't know for sure what that means. And I remember

5541
04:38:38,440 --> 04:38:41,440
Speaker 1: talking to Bobby. I was like, I'm not I'm not

5542
04:38:41,520 --> 04:38:43,760
Speaker 1: saying he's a good or bad player. I am saying

5543
04:38:43,960 --> 04:38:47,000
Speaker 1: if he's the pick, that will be the rest. That'll

5544
04:38:47,000 --> 04:38:49,720
Speaker 1: be what happens. How hard is it brought us? Obviously,

5545
04:38:49,800 --> 04:38:54,880
Speaker 1: has these really detailed reports judging offensive lineman like they've

5546
04:38:54,919 --> 04:38:56,560
Speaker 1: been pretty good. They've been pretty good at in the

5547
04:38:56,600 --> 04:38:59,040
Speaker 1: first round. I know people are people are getting on

5548
04:38:59,160 --> 04:39:02,920
Speaker 1: my ass about it right now. Pressure go for the

5549
04:39:02,960 --> 04:39:06,680
Speaker 1: pressure that the press conference is on. Here are the

5550
04:39:06,759 --> 04:39:09,240
Speaker 1: Cowboys explaining the pick. We called it a good night.

5551
04:39:10,520 --> 04:39:14,360
Speaker 1: We got a player that we thought had as much

5552
04:39:14,480 --> 04:39:19,520
Speaker 1: upside as anybody that was on the board, and we

5553
04:39:19,720 --> 04:39:27,079
Speaker 1: were very very sensitive about the fact that we were

5554
04:39:27,080 --> 04:39:36,800
Speaker 1: adding depth and adding real we think insurance due to

5555
04:39:37,000 --> 04:39:41,040
Speaker 1: the fact that our makeup of our offensive line and

5556
04:39:41,120 --> 04:39:45,120
Speaker 1: our starters, we have to take into consideration availability of

5557
04:39:45,200 --> 04:39:48,280
Speaker 1: our starters. We think we got a player here that

5558
04:39:48,440 --> 04:39:51,040
Speaker 1: not only has the ability to be a starter, but

5559
04:39:51,200 --> 04:39:56,200
Speaker 1: has position flex and so we were very fortunate with

5560
04:39:56,360 --> 04:39:58,600
Speaker 1: the twenty fourth pick to get the sixteenth player in

5561
04:39:58,640 --> 04:40:02,240
Speaker 1: the drag. So I'll start that off with that and

5562
04:40:02,320 --> 04:40:06,440
Speaker 1: then question Stephen. You've got one statement before they ask questions.

5563
04:40:06,640 --> 04:40:09,280
Speaker 1: I'll take questions. Okay, good, and coach you'll talk to

5564
04:40:09,360 --> 04:40:11,680
Speaker 1: you about the if it it's in with the team.

5565
04:40:11,880 --> 04:40:14,960
Speaker 1: You guys got sixteen places, so you do not consider

5566
04:40:15,000 --> 04:40:16,879
Speaker 1: moving up at all because a lot of activity earlier.

5567
04:40:16,880 --> 04:40:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys got to end see

5568
04:40:18,160 --> 04:40:20,840
Speaker 1: at all with so much so many trades today and

5569
04:40:20,960 --> 04:40:24,880
Speaker 1: you shall even consider moving up. We didn't have a

5570
04:40:25,080 --> 04:40:31,480
Speaker 1: player that we thought would at as it turns out

5571
04:40:31,560 --> 04:40:35,680
Speaker 1: where they were taken that was worth what we estimated

5572
04:40:36,280 --> 04:40:38,400
Speaker 1: would be what we'd have to pay to get up

5573
04:40:38,560 --> 04:40:41,640
Speaker 1: if if you had to pay, so we didn't spend

5574
04:40:41,800 --> 04:40:46,840
Speaker 1: a lot of time. If somebody got closer to us

5575
04:40:47,200 --> 04:40:52,760
Speaker 1: and we're dropping, then we certainly might consider that maneuvering

5576
04:40:52,880 --> 04:40:54,800
Speaker 1: up and down, And that's the way the board fell

5577
04:40:54,840 --> 04:40:57,600
Speaker 1: in there to day, we had three trades right at

5578
04:40:57,640 --> 04:41:01,640
Speaker 1: the buzzer on the last three picks. We had three calls.

5579
04:41:01,680 --> 04:41:04,560
Speaker 1: Stephen have had exactly, but we had three calls and

5580
04:41:04,840 --> 04:41:08,120
Speaker 1: entertained trading on at least two or maybe three of

5581
04:41:08,200 --> 04:41:13,480
Speaker 1: the last three picks. Trade back trade, Yeah, Ken Smith

5582
04:41:13,520 --> 04:41:15,920
Speaker 1: play guard. Is that we talked about position facts. We

5583
04:41:16,000 --> 04:41:18,919
Speaker 1: got to come in and completed guard. Yeah, Tyler will

5584
04:41:18,960 --> 04:41:21,760
Speaker 1: come in and he will have position flex and really

5585
04:41:21,800 --> 04:41:23,560
Speaker 1: be a left side player. So I'm an opportunity to

5586
04:41:24,040 --> 04:41:26,960
Speaker 1: rep both at the left guard in the left tackle position.

5587
04:41:27,000 --> 04:41:29,759
Speaker 1: That's where we will start them. Um. Real excited about

5588
04:41:29,800 --> 04:41:32,120
Speaker 1: what he he brings, you know, as far as his

5589
04:41:32,200 --> 04:41:34,280
Speaker 1: play style, and I think he's a really good fit

5590
04:41:34,360 --> 04:41:37,160
Speaker 1: fit for our offensive line room. Excited about what's in

5591
04:41:37,240 --> 04:41:41,360
Speaker 1: front of him. But yes, he'll have opportunity for both

5592
04:41:41,440 --> 04:41:43,520
Speaker 1: left guard left All right, let's take you to the

5593
04:41:43,600 --> 04:41:46,879
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys press conference talking about Tyler Smith as their

5594
04:41:46,960 --> 04:41:50,280
Speaker 1: draft pick at number twenty four. The trades you look forward,

5595
04:41:50,720 --> 04:41:53,320
Speaker 1: what does Tyler have that man? That definitely I mean

5596
04:41:53,360 --> 04:41:55,079
Speaker 1: you look at the measurables, so you know, he definitely

5597
04:41:55,120 --> 04:41:58,080
Speaker 1: has the trades of play left tackle. But um, you

5598
04:41:58,160 --> 04:42:01,640
Speaker 1: know those are conversations. You have all these these prospects,

5599
04:42:01,720 --> 04:42:04,840
Speaker 1: and you know, particularly, I mean personally, have been around

5600
04:42:05,200 --> 04:42:07,160
Speaker 1: a number of those guys that have gone from tackle

5601
04:42:07,280 --> 04:42:10,160
Speaker 1: and have played inside it. So but um, I think

5602
04:42:10,240 --> 04:42:13,440
Speaker 1: Tyler clearly has the ability to play tackle, and you

5603
04:42:13,520 --> 04:42:15,560
Speaker 1: know that's we're going to start him more as a

5604
04:42:15,640 --> 04:42:20,200
Speaker 1: left side player. As far as is Repson and how

5605
04:42:20,240 --> 04:42:23,440
Speaker 1: we view him starting out this week that you expected

5606
04:42:23,480 --> 04:42:25,960
Speaker 1: to give fourteen to sixteen players first round grades. When

5607
04:42:25,960 --> 04:42:28,079
Speaker 1: you see who as your sixteen player? Did you get

5608
04:42:28,160 --> 04:42:32,759
Speaker 1: him a first round grade we knew we were going

5609
04:42:32,840 --> 04:42:35,480
Speaker 1: to have to take if we were going to take

5610
04:42:35,600 --> 04:42:40,280
Speaker 1: Did we give him a first round grade? We gave

5611
04:42:40,400 --> 04:42:44,080
Speaker 1: him a grade that we knew more than likely we

5612
04:42:44,120 --> 04:42:48,280
Speaker 1: would take in the first round. Now that's that's that's

5613
04:42:48,320 --> 04:42:54,200
Speaker 1: meetly Mouth. That's meetly Mouth. It is a misrepresentation to

5614
04:42:54,360 --> 04:42:58,400
Speaker 1: not call him a first round player. And we knew

5615
04:42:58,560 --> 04:43:01,160
Speaker 1: that we were going to have to take him in

5616
04:43:01,360 --> 04:43:06,000
Speaker 1: the first round if we got him, and so I

5617
04:43:06,120 --> 04:43:08,719
Speaker 1: think that's the really I do think that's the correct

5618
04:43:09,000 --> 04:43:12,440
Speaker 1: way to do it. We had obviously, we have several

5619
04:43:12,520 --> 04:43:16,560
Speaker 1: players here that don't have first round grades. That were

5620
04:43:16,720 --> 04:43:20,400
Speaker 1: taken ahead of our picks that we didn't have first

5621
04:43:20,480 --> 04:43:23,560
Speaker 1: round grade. SOO, so I think it's really fair and

5622
04:43:23,680 --> 04:43:27,280
Speaker 1: my anticipated and we anticipated this question. But I think

5623
04:43:27,320 --> 04:43:29,480
Speaker 1: it's fair for us to say that we graded him

5624
04:43:29,520 --> 04:43:32,600
Speaker 1: as a first round player concerned with some of the

5625
04:43:32,720 --> 04:43:35,720
Speaker 1: penalty problems that he had in college, getting some of

5626
04:43:35,759 --> 04:43:38,120
Speaker 1: the palty issues that is offensive playing the last year.

5627
04:43:39,080 --> 04:43:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm definitely aware, you know, of his performance last year,

5628
04:43:41,840 --> 04:43:45,600
Speaker 1: but I definitely are two separate topics of my view,

5629
04:43:46,759 --> 04:43:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, obviously playing at Tulsa and obviously our team

5630
04:43:51,480 --> 04:43:55,200
Speaker 1: last year. I really don't see any correlation to it. Um.

5631
04:43:55,600 --> 04:43:57,760
Speaker 1: You know, we need to focus on on penalties and

5632
04:43:58,320 --> 04:44:01,840
Speaker 1: we've taken those steps already in offseason program, you know,

5633
04:44:01,919 --> 04:44:03,559
Speaker 1: as far as an emphasis on the things we need

5634
04:44:03,600 --> 04:44:05,480
Speaker 1: to do better, I mean, particularly in the year. He's

5635
04:44:05,480 --> 04:44:08,440
Speaker 1: the fundamentals. Um. So you know Tyler will be part

5636
04:44:08,440 --> 04:44:11,160
Speaker 1: of that, you know, part of the program when he

5637
04:44:11,240 --> 04:44:14,560
Speaker 1: gets here, and UM, I don't have any concerns. Well

5638
04:44:14,840 --> 04:44:17,440
Speaker 1: we're studdy Tyler Smith. First, get on your radar, Like,

5639
04:44:17,520 --> 04:44:20,200
Speaker 1: can you remember the first time you saw him or

5640
04:44:20,240 --> 04:44:21,840
Speaker 1: when he caught your eye or just when that was

5641
04:44:22,120 --> 04:44:24,280
Speaker 1: it was during the season going through the process looking

5642
04:44:24,280 --> 04:44:26,440
Speaker 1: at you know, when you start talking about the things

5643
04:44:26,520 --> 04:44:29,280
Speaker 1: that are that that you're looking for in the draft, Um,

5644
04:44:29,720 --> 04:44:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, we're looking for good players. But when it

5645
04:44:31,440 --> 04:44:33,080
Speaker 1: came up when we were looking at offensive line, we

5646
04:44:33,240 --> 04:44:35,720
Speaker 1: talked about him in December, um, you know, and you

5647
04:44:35,800 --> 04:44:38,560
Speaker 1: got to notice him a little bit more. And you know,

5648
04:44:38,720 --> 04:44:41,759
Speaker 1: number one thing is there's a big athletic, physical man

5649
04:44:41,880 --> 04:44:43,960
Speaker 1: and that that's going to play in a big athletic

5650
04:44:44,000 --> 04:44:46,400
Speaker 1: physical league. And that's what we liked about him. Was

5651
04:44:46,440 --> 04:44:49,640
Speaker 1: it a Dallas take out? No? No, what did you

5652
04:44:49,680 --> 04:44:52,760
Speaker 1: guys see getting that private work out for you to say, okay,

5653
04:44:52,919 --> 04:44:57,120
Speaker 1: this is the first round great on in the sense, well,

5654
04:44:57,200 --> 04:44:58,760
Speaker 1: you look for the traits and then you look for

5655
04:44:58,840 --> 04:45:02,000
Speaker 1: the ability on tape and he showed those. You know,

5656
04:45:02,360 --> 04:45:05,280
Speaker 1: he was a first round type player and you know,

5657
04:45:05,520 --> 04:45:08,440
Speaker 1: capable of competing in his league and you know, we

5658
04:45:08,520 --> 04:45:11,480
Speaker 1: were excited about that and him being local and you know,

5659
04:45:11,560 --> 04:45:14,920
Speaker 1: the temperament that he plays with and being young in

5660
04:45:15,040 --> 04:45:17,120
Speaker 1: the growth and the upside and the potential that's also

5661
04:45:17,200 --> 04:45:21,280
Speaker 1: important too, So did John Brady Manley. It just not

5662
04:45:21,400 --> 04:45:23,240
Speaker 1: equal to the scoptar that work for you to bring

5663
04:45:23,280 --> 04:45:25,079
Speaker 1: remember downut there for one of the thirty visits through.

5664
04:45:26,000 --> 04:45:28,760
Speaker 1: We all didn't need to do that. We didn't need

5665
04:45:28,800 --> 04:45:30,640
Speaker 1: to do that. We did the homework. We have enough

5666
04:45:30,680 --> 04:45:34,240
Speaker 1: sources and we had spent enough time with him to

5667
04:45:34,320 --> 04:45:37,720
Speaker 1: be comfortable with who the kid was. Excuse me there,

5668
04:45:37,919 --> 04:45:39,759
Speaker 1: I just want to add that, Uh, you know, Joe

5669
04:45:39,840 --> 04:45:41,919
Speaker 1: Filman had a chance to spend the time with them,

5670
04:45:41,960 --> 04:45:45,360
Speaker 1: and you know, the classroom work is obviously important. You know,

5671
04:45:45,440 --> 04:45:48,280
Speaker 1: we felt great about what he put on video, but

5672
04:45:48,360 --> 04:45:50,320
Speaker 1: you know, the personal workout does give you a chance

5673
04:45:50,360 --> 04:45:53,720
Speaker 1: to get a closer look and particularly spend the time

5674
04:45:53,759 --> 04:45:56,079
Speaker 1: and the one on one time. So obviously he had

5675
04:45:56,160 --> 04:45:58,840
Speaker 1: high marks and all that building film work with them

5676
04:45:58,880 --> 04:46:04,600
Speaker 1: to Outpulso correct. There are a couple of defensive players

5677
04:46:04,640 --> 04:46:08,280
Speaker 1: on the board there, Johnson and Lloyd Or was there

5678
04:46:08,320 --> 04:46:12,680
Speaker 1: consider strong consideration given taking defense? There was the rage

5679
04:46:13,640 --> 04:46:15,360
Speaker 1: to the point where you knew you were going to

5680
04:46:15,400 --> 04:46:22,360
Speaker 1: go Smith, But I will say, yes, yes, that there

5681
04:46:22,400 --> 04:46:29,240
Speaker 1: were strong consideration to defense there. We had though predetermined

5682
04:46:30,919 --> 04:46:35,680
Speaker 1: that he was even against defense, and I'm not going

5683
04:46:35,720 --> 04:46:40,200
Speaker 1: to give the specific players, but even against defense, we

5684
04:46:40,440 --> 04:46:43,960
Speaker 1: had determined that he was the leader in the clubhouse

5685
04:46:45,560 --> 04:46:49,320
Speaker 1: if we had a choice, and so we didn't have

5686
04:46:49,480 --> 04:46:52,720
Speaker 1: to have when he dropped, when he was available, we

5687
04:46:52,800 --> 04:46:56,160
Speaker 1: didn't have to have a big discussion and debate and

5688
04:46:56,280 --> 04:47:00,320
Speaker 1: all that kind of thing we looked over. As a

5689
04:47:00,360 --> 04:47:02,280
Speaker 1: matter of fact, Steven was on the phone with a

5690
04:47:02,400 --> 04:47:05,600
Speaker 1: trade and it turns out that they wanted to trade

5691
04:47:05,720 --> 04:47:09,360
Speaker 1: right ahead of us, and turns out that the trade

5692
04:47:09,480 --> 04:47:13,680
Speaker 1: that was attempted was to get him. We later found

5693
04:47:13,720 --> 04:47:17,480
Speaker 1: that out, So we knew we were in the wheelhouse there,

5694
04:47:17,640 --> 04:47:20,600
Speaker 1: and so we had a very clear despite as clear

5695
04:47:20,919 --> 04:47:27,560
Speaker 1: of on the board decision that I've seen unanimous decision

5696
04:47:27,640 --> 04:47:29,560
Speaker 1: in the room that when he came to us and

5697
04:47:29,640 --> 04:47:31,840
Speaker 1: we had to pick to take him. That I've been

5698
04:47:31,919 --> 04:47:37,040
Speaker 1: involved in green Zion Johnson, And again we don't have that,

5699
04:47:37,200 --> 04:47:40,440
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get into that, but let

5700
04:47:40,520 --> 04:47:42,680
Speaker 1: me put it like this. We have both of them.

5701
04:47:44,560 --> 04:47:48,520
Speaker 1: Was printed three days ago below him, both of those

5702
04:47:48,600 --> 04:48:01,640
Speaker 1: players and below him. Can you see that serious? Because

5703
04:48:01,680 --> 04:48:05,200
Speaker 1: there's I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious. No, we really

5704
04:48:05,280 --> 04:48:07,200
Speaker 1: did have him ready to blow it. No, we really

5705
04:48:07,240 --> 04:48:15,480
Speaker 1: did both of them. Your question, Well, hey man, let

5706
04:48:15,560 --> 04:48:20,720
Speaker 1: me just say this. The other part. The other part

5707
04:48:20,919 --> 04:48:24,120
Speaker 1: is I'm looking to I don't see. I'm trying to

5708
04:48:24,200 --> 04:48:26,840
Speaker 1: see who's on here. I'm trying to see who's on here.

5709
04:48:26,880 --> 04:48:30,040
Speaker 1: There wouldn't be but if they're, if you take out

5710
04:48:30,120 --> 04:48:37,160
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, it won't be anybody on heres. The key

5711
04:48:37,280 --> 04:48:39,080
Speaker 1: thing for you know, the only thing I would add

5712
04:48:39,080 --> 04:48:42,759
Speaker 1: to this, the key thing Smith is just his ability

5713
04:48:42,960 --> 04:48:44,800
Speaker 1: were taking can be our left tackle for a long

5714
04:48:44,919 --> 04:48:47,240
Speaker 1: time at some point in time. Obviously we got the

5715
04:48:47,320 --> 04:48:51,200
Speaker 1: best in the business now and Tyron Smith, but uh,

5716
04:48:51,400 --> 04:48:55,440
Speaker 1: at some point his ability. We really believe he can

5717
04:48:55,480 --> 04:49:01,040
Speaker 1: be a really top top left tackle. It. I guess

5718
04:49:01,720 --> 04:49:04,080
Speaker 1: that's holds debate right about the trades and production of

5719
04:49:04,160 --> 04:49:07,360
Speaker 1: this process. You you value the phrase you more because

5720
04:49:07,400 --> 04:49:10,760
Speaker 1: you build like the perfect off. It's long with the penalties.

5721
04:49:11,200 --> 04:49:12,879
Speaker 1: How do you valance stay well? I think the one

5722
04:49:12,880 --> 04:49:14,719
Speaker 1: thing you got to remember about him is he played

5723
04:49:14,759 --> 04:49:17,320
Speaker 1: sixteen games. He had half a COVID year, and then

5724
04:49:17,360 --> 04:49:19,600
Speaker 1: he played last year. And he did play against some

5725
04:49:19,680 --> 04:49:23,559
Speaker 1: good competition. I'm playing against Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Cincinnati.

5726
04:49:24,560 --> 04:49:26,640
Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about Tulsa, you think, well,

5727
04:49:26,880 --> 04:49:30,000
Speaker 1: competition level of Colm. But I think there's a lot

5728
04:49:30,040 --> 04:49:32,560
Speaker 1: of things that you know, our coaching staff Mike and

5729
04:49:33,160 --> 04:49:37,079
Speaker 1: coach Philman and Blastgow will do to help him quickly.

5730
04:49:37,120 --> 04:49:40,560
Speaker 1: He's very intelligent young man. I think he'll pick it

5731
04:49:40,680 --> 04:49:44,360
Speaker 1: right up and he's gonna have top nights coaching, and

5732
04:49:44,759 --> 04:49:47,560
Speaker 1: h just feel very comfortable with that. In terms of

5733
04:49:47,640 --> 04:49:49,840
Speaker 1: the trade, I think, you know, when you're talking about

5734
04:49:49,840 --> 04:49:51,840
Speaker 1: a first round pick and what we could have gotten

5735
04:49:51,880 --> 04:49:54,560
Speaker 1: to move down, and Jerry is right, I happen to

5736
04:49:54,600 --> 04:49:58,240
Speaker 1: be good friends with the team that was calling. He

5737
04:49:58,360 --> 04:50:00,720
Speaker 1: sent me a tax right after we pay and said

5738
04:50:01,000 --> 04:50:03,160
Speaker 1: he glad you didn't trade with us. That was our guy.

5739
04:50:04,160 --> 04:50:08,280
Speaker 1: So um anyway, it's uh, you know, I think when

5740
04:50:08,280 --> 04:50:10,680
Speaker 1: you're talking about your first round pick, which you pick up,

5741
04:50:11,240 --> 04:50:14,560
Speaker 1: it's a good you know, resonates that you want to

5742
04:50:14,560 --> 04:50:17,080
Speaker 1: be careful. They're getting too cute in terms of moving down,

5743
04:50:17,840 --> 04:50:20,480
Speaker 1: you know, two, three, four or five picks. You gotta

5744
04:50:20,480 --> 04:50:22,640
Speaker 1: be careful with that. You know. He talked about the

5745
04:50:22,960 --> 04:50:24,960
Speaker 1: nasty or that y'all talk with the nast and set

5746
04:50:25,080 --> 04:50:27,400
Speaker 1: him as a player in talkas is that avocating memories

5747
04:50:27,400 --> 04:50:29,760
Speaker 1: of Eric Leavings for you. Oh well, he's one of

5748
04:50:29,800 --> 04:50:31,960
Speaker 1: the nastiest I've ever played through here. I mean lyle

5749
04:50:32,080 --> 04:50:36,320
Speaker 1: Collins had that to him and certainly, you know, we

5750
04:50:36,440 --> 04:50:38,480
Speaker 1: miss that, you know, we're gonna miss that with Lyle.

5751
04:50:38,600 --> 04:50:41,480
Speaker 1: But I think certainly he brings this to the table

5752
04:50:41,680 --> 04:50:45,360
Speaker 1: Smith does and uh, you know that was you know,

5753
04:50:45,400 --> 04:50:48,440
Speaker 1: at the top of the redeeming qualities and one of many.

5754
04:50:48,640 --> 04:50:51,280
Speaker 1: But certainly that's a big, big part of why we

5755
04:50:51,400 --> 04:50:54,240
Speaker 1: liked him. What did you learn about this mentally in

5756
04:50:54,360 --> 04:50:57,239
Speaker 1: terms of visibility to take the chine and go from

5757
04:50:57,320 --> 04:50:59,040
Speaker 1: the player that he's today is the player that you

5758
04:50:59,080 --> 04:51:02,160
Speaker 1: guys believe you one day. I think the biggest thing,

5759
04:51:02,480 --> 04:51:04,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're all saying it is he

5760
04:51:05,000 --> 04:51:07,360
Speaker 1: has a tremendous ceiling. You know, he's a young man

5761
04:51:07,440 --> 04:51:10,880
Speaker 1: to what twenty years old, twenty one, you know, only

5762
04:51:10,880 --> 04:51:14,879
Speaker 1: played sixteen games. You know, some of his mistakes penalties

5763
04:51:14,880 --> 04:51:17,200
Speaker 1: and were of aggressive nature, so that those are the

5764
04:51:17,280 --> 04:51:20,879
Speaker 1: ones you're definitely you'd rather be done with combative, combative

5765
04:51:21,240 --> 04:51:24,239
Speaker 1: things that you can learn from. So but yeah, definitely, everything,

5766
04:51:24,480 --> 04:51:26,280
Speaker 1: like I said, everything checked out. I know Joe, Joe

5767
04:51:26,400 --> 04:51:28,600
Speaker 1: was very comfortable with him. I know the answer to

5768
04:51:28,680 --> 04:51:31,160
Speaker 1: this question, coach, because I talked to you about it.

5769
04:51:32,120 --> 04:51:35,760
Speaker 1: Is there a position on the entire football team that

5770
04:51:35,919 --> 04:51:38,360
Speaker 1: you have to project anymore, or that you have to

5771
04:51:38,440 --> 04:51:42,080
Speaker 1: develop anymore from college to prose than the offensive way.

5772
04:51:42,759 --> 04:51:46,720
Speaker 1: It's it's definitely that I'd say no that that demo quarterback,

5773
04:51:46,800 --> 04:51:49,520
Speaker 1: and especially I think the thing get recognize in this

5774
04:51:49,720 --> 04:51:52,640
Speaker 1: conversation Jerry and I had is in today's you know,

5775
04:51:54,000 --> 04:51:57,320
Speaker 1: offseason program, everything set up, the offensive lineman really are

5776
04:51:57,440 --> 04:52:00,239
Speaker 1: at a disadvantage because you know, they really don't get

5777
04:52:00,320 --> 04:52:02,640
Speaker 1: to really get the hand to hand combat until we

5778
04:52:02,640 --> 04:52:04,360
Speaker 1: get the training camp. So you know, you know, we

5779
04:52:04,480 --> 04:52:07,200
Speaker 1: talk about all those things. But he has a tremendous sailing.

5780
04:52:07,240 --> 04:52:10,320
Speaker 1: We're excited about that. But the minute you go offensive line,

5781
04:52:10,400 --> 04:52:14,080
Speaker 1: you've got to plan on. But I don't care what

5782
04:52:14,360 --> 04:52:17,719
Speaker 1: level he is. He's got some projection in him from

5783
04:52:17,759 --> 04:52:19,960
Speaker 1: the way he played in college. It's just a real

5784
04:52:20,080 --> 04:52:26,200
Speaker 1: different game in the offensive line to really effectively eliminate

5785
04:52:26,280 --> 04:52:28,600
Speaker 1: the kind of things that were great an offensive line

5786
04:52:28,600 --> 04:52:31,000
Speaker 1: about it one of them being mistakes and one of

5787
04:52:31,040 --> 04:52:33,320
Speaker 1: them being taken egg. So I don't care who you

5788
04:52:33,520 --> 04:52:37,200
Speaker 1: drafted offensive line, you've got some work to do. The

5789
04:52:37,320 --> 04:52:39,280
Speaker 1: last time you all dropped to the line in the

5790
04:52:39,680 --> 04:52:42,280
Speaker 1: first round, it was I heard one in four years

5791
04:52:42,720 --> 04:52:44,680
Speaker 1: the line was maybe even a little bit of a

5792
04:52:44,720 --> 04:52:47,040
Speaker 1: transition your building to what you ended up with. I

5793
04:52:47,200 --> 04:52:49,640
Speaker 1: forgot it if you like. The line is kind of

5794
04:52:49,680 --> 04:52:51,280
Speaker 1: at that point again where it's a little bit of

5795
04:52:51,520 --> 04:52:54,480
Speaker 1: a transition phase and you're sifting from what he had

5796
04:52:55,160 --> 04:52:57,919
Speaker 1: back then to what you're looking at Cornball. I think

5797
04:52:57,919 --> 04:52:59,560
Speaker 1: we're doing a nice job with it. I mean, one

5798
04:52:59,600 --> 04:53:01,440
Speaker 1: of the things we talked about after we made the

5799
04:53:01,520 --> 04:53:03,680
Speaker 1: pick is, you know, I think Mike was you know,

5800
04:53:03,800 --> 04:53:06,759
Speaker 1: verbalized it perfect. I mean, we look at Smith as

5801
04:53:06,759 --> 04:53:10,600
Speaker 1: being a left side position player, Ball as the right

5802
04:53:10,680 --> 04:53:13,680
Speaker 1: side position player who obviously we have a you know,

5803
04:53:14,000 --> 04:53:16,240
Speaker 1: a big resource in and we think a lot of him,

5804
04:53:16,240 --> 04:53:18,360
Speaker 1: and then we got Farniac in the middle. So it's

5805
04:53:18,800 --> 04:53:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, three young guys there that we really, uh

5806
04:53:22,120 --> 04:53:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, think a lot of and think are ready

5807
04:53:25,400 --> 04:53:27,520
Speaker 1: to you know, when their time comes to make that

5808
04:53:27,680 --> 04:53:30,719
Speaker 1: jump and you throw still in that mix and uh

5809
04:53:31,280 --> 04:53:33,560
Speaker 1: be Auditch and that mix. You know, it's a good

5810
04:53:33,600 --> 04:53:36,720
Speaker 1: group of young players. Now obviously you know zach and

5811
04:53:37,160 --> 04:53:40,120
Speaker 1: and Tyrn you know, you know, been in the league

5812
04:53:40,200 --> 04:53:42,720
Speaker 1: while and certainly the best in the business. But I

5813
04:53:42,919 --> 04:53:45,760
Speaker 1: do think you know, we've done We're doing a good

5814
04:53:45,840 --> 04:53:48,040
Speaker 1: job of getting the right pieces in place to be

5815
04:53:48,120 --> 04:53:51,880
Speaker 1: able to push those guys in as we move forward. Certainly,

5816
04:53:52,080 --> 04:53:54,800
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern's a young player as well, and you know

5817
04:53:54,880 --> 04:53:57,039
Speaker 1: he's going to get an opportunity to compete this year

5818
04:53:57,120 --> 04:53:59,480
Speaker 1: as well. But uh, you know, I really like how

5819
04:53:59,520 --> 04:54:02,759
Speaker 1: we're trainingsitioning, and but at the same time, I think

5820
04:54:02,840 --> 04:54:05,320
Speaker 1: we still have a chance to have, you know, a

5821
04:54:05,400 --> 04:54:09,160
Speaker 1: top top offensive line in this league. Important to that point,

5822
04:54:09,200 --> 04:54:11,680
Speaker 1: you just having the room in place we bring you

5823
04:54:11,720 --> 04:54:14,280
Speaker 1: guy like Tyler in terms of evans that just the

5824
04:54:14,360 --> 04:54:17,480
Speaker 1: coaches which the veterans forgo you can learn guys like

5825
04:54:17,640 --> 04:54:21,200
Speaker 1: hiring guys like that. How critical is that forty version development.

5826
04:54:22,160 --> 04:54:24,480
Speaker 1: It's awesome. I mean, that's that's what you want as

5827
04:54:24,480 --> 04:54:27,240
Speaker 1: a coach. And uh, we're very fortunate to have those

5828
04:54:27,360 --> 04:54:29,840
Speaker 1: those veteran players. And I think just as a whole

5829
04:54:29,880 --> 04:54:32,640
Speaker 1: our locker room, just spending some time with the leadership

5830
04:54:32,680 --> 04:54:34,840
Speaker 1: council this week on on a you know, on a

5831
04:54:35,040 --> 04:54:36,520
Speaker 1: couple of things that you know, to deal with the

5832
04:54:36,600 --> 04:54:39,680
Speaker 1: offseason program. This is a very very strong locker room,

5833
04:54:40,160 --> 04:54:43,000
Speaker 1: especially the offensive line room. Even you were saying the

5834
04:54:43,080 --> 04:54:46,120
Speaker 1: other day that you thought you had as many top

5835
04:54:46,200 --> 04:54:48,320
Speaker 1: of the second round grades on players. It was as

5836
04:54:48,400 --> 04:54:50,840
Speaker 1: deep as it's been in a while. As you win

5837
04:54:50,960 --> 04:54:54,440
Speaker 1: this first night, is that still a pretty good cluster

5838
04:54:54,600 --> 04:54:57,280
Speaker 1: there for you going into tomorrow? It's tempted out pretty good.

5839
04:54:57,400 --> 04:54:59,759
Speaker 1: I mean, when you only have fourteen first round picks

5840
04:54:59,800 --> 04:55:02,800
Speaker 1: and you know there's communication around the league. I don't

5841
04:55:02,840 --> 04:55:05,320
Speaker 1: think we were I think that was pretty much down

5842
04:55:05,360 --> 04:55:08,360
Speaker 1: the middle in terms of what other teams felt like

5843
04:55:08,480 --> 04:55:10,840
Speaker 1: they had in the first round. And so when that's

5844
04:55:10,880 --> 04:55:13,440
Speaker 1: what you have, what's coming next or those type of

5845
04:55:13,520 --> 04:55:16,320
Speaker 1: the second rounders, and you know they picked through us

5846
04:55:16,360 --> 04:55:18,640
Speaker 1: pretty good there. I mean, it was getting tight there

5847
04:55:18,680 --> 04:55:20,880
Speaker 1: at the end in terms of, you know, who was

5848
04:55:20,919 --> 04:55:23,440
Speaker 1: going to be available to us, in terms of when

5849
04:55:23,480 --> 04:55:26,600
Speaker 1: we picked at twenty four. Think of some of our

5850
04:55:26,640 --> 04:55:29,960
Speaker 1: competitors in their division what they did deceive me, because yeah,

5851
04:55:29,960 --> 04:55:33,680
Speaker 1: at least two picks before you guys, and they picked

5852
04:55:33,720 --> 04:55:36,920
Speaker 1: some great football players and then they got better. You know,

5853
04:55:37,000 --> 04:55:40,760
Speaker 1: I think all three teams in our division all got better.

5854
04:55:41,120 --> 04:55:43,640
Speaker 1: So you know, certainly the bars said high and we

5855
04:55:43,680 --> 04:55:47,040
Speaker 1: got to go to work. You see, defensive landing, go

5856
04:55:47,520 --> 04:55:51,400
Speaker 1: to your community. Me how much that even within this night,

5857
04:55:51,880 --> 04:55:54,600
Speaker 1: the possibility of going to the offensive play and I

5858
04:55:54,680 --> 04:55:57,160
Speaker 1: think it's critical. I think we've got to match that.

5859
04:55:57,280 --> 04:55:59,520
Speaker 1: I mean, look at what Philly did with the big

5860
04:55:59,600 --> 04:56:03,760
Speaker 1: tackle and Giants and you know with the pass rusher.

5861
04:56:03,840 --> 04:56:06,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's we've got you know, we've got to

5862
04:56:06,400 --> 04:56:08,800
Speaker 1: go to work there. And obviously that fronts always going

5863
04:56:08,840 --> 04:56:12,039
Speaker 1: to be a priority force both sides of the line. Uh,

5864
04:56:12,160 --> 04:56:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's critical. That's where the football game. Coach

5865
04:56:14,960 --> 04:56:18,160
Speaker 1: McCarthy always says it. Uh, you know, that's when you

5866
04:56:18,240 --> 04:56:20,000
Speaker 1: get to play off football. That's where you got to

5867
04:56:20,040 --> 04:56:22,680
Speaker 1: be strong. Even when you say that your team got

5868
04:56:22,759 --> 04:56:25,360
Speaker 1: better as well, though, I mean, was this ane position

5869
04:56:25,440 --> 04:56:27,000
Speaker 1: and a guy that you said to come right in

5870
04:56:27,040 --> 04:56:30,120
Speaker 1: and start? You know, I don't want to put them

5871
04:56:30,240 --> 04:56:31,960
Speaker 1: come right in and start. I mean we've got a

5872
04:56:32,040 --> 04:56:34,759
Speaker 1: good competitive situation there, but I do think we got

5873
04:56:34,960 --> 04:56:37,559
Speaker 1: much better. Uh you know with this pick. I mean

5874
04:56:37,600 --> 04:56:39,840
Speaker 1: we've got still a lot of work to do. Eight

5875
04:56:39,919 --> 04:56:44,240
Speaker 1: draft picks left, but it's one player. But certainly we're

5876
04:56:44,360 --> 04:56:47,640
Speaker 1: very pleased with what we ended up with. Tyrants missed

5877
04:56:48,000 --> 04:56:50,240
Speaker 1: games and I think he's paid a full season since

5878
04:56:50,280 --> 04:56:54,040
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. Did you have to start thinking about was

5879
04:56:54,120 --> 04:56:56,880
Speaker 1: now the right time to start thinking about his future

5880
04:56:56,960 --> 04:57:00,400
Speaker 1: and how you eventually have to replace him. Well, as

5881
04:57:00,840 --> 04:57:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, he's phenomenal, He's had had a great career,

5882
04:57:05,200 --> 04:57:08,719
Speaker 1: and we believe he's got a lot of tread left

5883
04:57:09,200 --> 04:57:13,960
Speaker 1: left Tyrant does. But to the end that we were

5884
04:57:13,960 --> 04:57:16,840
Speaker 1: able to come in here with this kind of potential

5885
04:57:17,080 --> 04:57:20,120
Speaker 1: talent and have somebody that we think can help us

5886
04:57:20,200 --> 04:57:24,759
Speaker 1: this year with this pick and basically mail in if

5887
04:57:24,800 --> 04:57:28,800
Speaker 1: you will, what Tyran is about, what Martin, what all

5888
04:57:28,840 --> 04:57:33,840
Speaker 1: of that particular statue is in the offensive line, it's

5889
04:57:33,880 --> 04:57:36,840
Speaker 1: a great place to be putting some talent in the

5890
04:57:36,919 --> 04:57:39,960
Speaker 1: middle of it, and it's a great talent to work with.

5891
04:57:40,800 --> 04:57:44,200
Speaker 1: And it would be a misnomer to think that if

5892
04:57:44,280 --> 04:57:47,800
Speaker 1: you had offensive line beside your name tonight for the

5893
04:57:47,919 --> 04:57:52,840
Speaker 1: Cowboys that you didn't have a little extra attention because

5894
04:57:53,080 --> 04:57:56,840
Speaker 1: it was. It feels good to have gotten a player

5895
04:57:56,880 --> 04:57:59,760
Speaker 1: of this caliber in with that team within a team

5896
04:58:00,240 --> 04:58:03,680
Speaker 1: offensive what it's good, this good move and we're proud

5897
04:58:03,720 --> 04:58:18,600
Speaker 1: of jaredy Hall stop. Stop, thanks guys, All right, wrapping up,

5898
04:58:18,680 --> 04:58:29,640
Speaker 1: let's go yes sir, yes, So we are back on

5899
04:58:30,000 --> 04:58:35,160
Speaker 1: the internet side of things. That was the post draft

5900
04:58:35,320 --> 04:58:39,039
Speaker 1: post first round press conference, with Will McClay, Jerry Jones,

5901
04:58:39,280 --> 04:58:42,360
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones, and Mike McCarthy back here on the Draft Show.

5902
04:58:42,960 --> 04:58:45,480
Speaker 1: He's David Hellman, He's Brian brought us Bobby Belt and

5903
04:58:45,720 --> 04:58:48,840
Speaker 1: Sean Shariffe have vacated their area. They've got one oh

5904
04:58:48,919 --> 04:58:51,440
Speaker 1: five three the fan duties, Sean in the morning and

5905
04:58:51,560 --> 04:58:55,520
Speaker 1: then Bobby on the fan for the rest of the night. Yeah,

5906
04:58:55,600 --> 04:58:57,920
Speaker 1: you're exactly right. Sean's a trooper man. He's like to

5907
04:58:58,040 --> 04:59:00,680
Speaker 1: go from this and he's probably he's he's finished watching

5908
04:59:00,720 --> 04:59:03,600
Speaker 1: the MAVs game, and then he'll be up at like

5909
04:59:03,720 --> 04:59:06,040
Speaker 1: four AM to get that show ready. Good for you, Sean,

5910
04:59:06,080 --> 04:59:07,640
Speaker 1: You're a beast, and he's gonna be right back up

5911
04:59:07,720 --> 04:59:09,880
Speaker 1: here or did Sean won't be, but Bobby Belt will

5912
04:59:09,880 --> 04:59:13,399
Speaker 1: go until one and at one o'clock am, and then

5913
04:59:13,440 --> 04:59:15,000
Speaker 1: he'll turn around and be right back up here for

5914
04:59:15,080 --> 04:59:19,360
Speaker 1: our coverage starting at six o'clock Central time tomorrow. We

5915
04:59:19,480 --> 04:59:21,600
Speaker 1: will be on one oh five three to fan and

5916
04:59:22,000 --> 04:59:25,879
Speaker 1: on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com side of things as well. Brian,

5917
04:59:26,040 --> 04:59:29,320
Speaker 1: let's wrap up Night one. It was unexpected, to say

5918
04:59:29,400 --> 04:59:32,000
Speaker 1: the least, from picks one through twenty three, and it

5919
04:59:32,320 --> 04:59:35,280
Speaker 1: really provided a tough situation for the Cowboys. At pick

5920
04:59:35,360 --> 04:59:39,320
Speaker 1: twenty four, they select Tyler Smith, offensive tackle slash offensive

5921
04:59:39,360 --> 04:59:42,759
Speaker 1: lineman overall from Tulsa. What are your thoughts on the night?

5922
04:59:43,240 --> 04:59:44,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? When I look at my

5923
04:59:45,800 --> 04:59:49,360
Speaker 1: excuse me, when I look at my board and how

5924
04:59:49,440 --> 04:59:52,040
Speaker 1: I have it ranked, that's this is me. And again

5925
04:59:52,080 --> 04:59:54,480
Speaker 1: I put my board out there for everybody to see.

5926
04:59:54,960 --> 04:59:56,480
Speaker 1: You can go on my Twitter, Dave. I need to

5927
04:59:56,560 --> 04:59:58,200
Speaker 1: send it to you so you can maybe. Yeah, I'll

5928
04:59:58,240 --> 04:59:59,760
Speaker 1: get it printed out for you to print out right

5929
05:00:00,160 --> 05:00:02,800
Speaker 1: so everybody can see it the right way. But you know, yeah,

5930
05:00:02,880 --> 05:00:05,320
Speaker 1: I didn't have this guy as high as everybody else,

5931
05:00:05,520 --> 05:00:07,000
Speaker 1: you know. And and we and we and this was

5932
05:00:07,040 --> 05:00:09,520
Speaker 1: one of those things where I'm watching him play and

5933
05:00:09,640 --> 05:00:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about technique. We talk about the holdings and

5934
05:00:12,240 --> 05:00:16,200
Speaker 1: stuff like that, you know. But I that's my evaluation

5935
05:00:16,280 --> 05:00:19,120
Speaker 1: of him, you know. And I'm admitted I was wrong

5936
05:00:19,200 --> 05:00:23,640
Speaker 1: about Travis Frederick. You know, the same exact things that

5937
05:00:23,800 --> 05:00:26,560
Speaker 1: I think about, Oh, third round, Travis Frederick always not this,

5938
05:00:26,800 --> 05:00:29,680
Speaker 1: not that whatever, you know. And then Travis Frederick is

5939
05:00:29,680 --> 05:00:32,320
Speaker 1: an all pro player, you know, And I am I

5940
05:00:32,400 --> 05:00:35,360
Speaker 1: concerned about the some of the lack of the technique. Yes,

5941
05:00:35,600 --> 05:00:38,000
Speaker 1: am I concerned about some of the holding calls, Yes

5942
05:00:38,280 --> 05:00:41,800
Speaker 1: I am, you know, but we'll see, We'll see. He

5943
05:00:42,000 --> 05:00:45,240
Speaker 1: is a big, powerful man that's got is a very

5944
05:00:45,280 --> 05:00:47,960
Speaker 1: good athlete, you know, and if they can, if they

5945
05:00:48,040 --> 05:00:51,160
Speaker 1: can work with that. I wouldn't say that immediately he's

5946
05:00:51,200 --> 05:00:53,720
Speaker 1: going to be plug and play. I think there's going

5947
05:00:53,800 --> 05:00:56,520
Speaker 1: to be some some things along the way that he's

5948
05:00:56,560 --> 05:00:58,480
Speaker 1: going to have to learn and get better at it.

5949
05:00:59,200 --> 05:01:01,240
Speaker 1: But you know that that's what they needed. They're they're

5950
05:01:01,280 --> 05:01:03,919
Speaker 1: looking at offensive lineman, they're looking at guards. They had

5951
05:01:04,040 --> 05:01:06,879
Speaker 1: him a lot higher than I had him on my board.

5952
05:01:07,440 --> 05:01:10,840
Speaker 1: So am I happy about them? They got who they wanted. Yeah,

5953
05:01:11,200 --> 05:01:13,560
Speaker 1: I was me like I say, I'm kind of looking

5954
05:01:13,600 --> 05:01:16,640
Speaker 1: at the board like Tyler Lindenbaum, you know, some others.

5955
05:01:16,840 --> 05:01:19,400
Speaker 1: But they weren't going to take those guys. See that's

5956
05:01:19,400 --> 05:01:21,840
Speaker 1: again my board. Am I happy about it? From what

5957
05:01:21,960 --> 05:01:24,200
Speaker 1: I saw? No, I felt like they took a third

5958
05:01:24,280 --> 05:01:27,120
Speaker 1: round player. That's you know, That's how I see. But

5959
05:01:27,400 --> 05:01:30,560
Speaker 1: to them, that know, and they don't give a rats

5960
05:01:30,640 --> 05:01:33,240
Speaker 1: you know what about what I think? Either, they really don't.

5961
05:01:34,240 --> 05:01:35,920
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't care about it, you know, And

5962
05:01:36,080 --> 05:01:39,759
Speaker 1: and you know what, I'm I'm interested to see how

5963
05:01:39,840 --> 05:01:41,720
Speaker 1: he comes in and plugs and play. And my hope

5964
05:01:41,759 --> 05:01:44,920
Speaker 1: for Cowboy fans is that he is a guy that

5965
05:01:45,400 --> 05:01:50,440
Speaker 1: is is this is this drafts uh, Travis Frederick where

5966
05:01:50,560 --> 05:01:53,759
Speaker 1: I'm really really wrong about the player. Hometown kid, Fort

5967
05:01:53,840 --> 05:01:56,360
Speaker 1: Worth native, went to North Crowley High School, and now

5968
05:01:56,880 --> 05:02:00,480
Speaker 1: he is a part of the Dallas Cowboys. And it

5969
05:02:00,640 --> 05:02:03,360
Speaker 1: makes things interesting on the offensive line moving into the

5970
05:02:04,280 --> 05:02:07,400
Speaker 1: training camp in the latter parts of this offseason, moving

5971
05:02:07,440 --> 05:02:10,440
Speaker 1: into the preseason, because there's competition there. Now, Yeah, well

5972
05:02:10,480 --> 05:02:13,759
Speaker 1: that would smiss a part of it. It's irrelevant how

5973
05:02:13,840 --> 05:02:16,559
Speaker 1: good he is right now because we have no way

5974
05:02:16,600 --> 05:02:19,000
Speaker 1: of knowing. Like, we'll argue about this all summer, we'll

5975
05:02:19,000 --> 05:02:20,840
Speaker 1: go to training camp, we'll see how he does. So

5976
05:02:21,040 --> 05:02:23,879
Speaker 1: like and this is just the way I view things, Brian,

5977
05:02:23,960 --> 05:02:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, like all these years, I always I'm just like,

5978
05:02:26,200 --> 05:02:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm really more focused on the strategy than like the grade,

5979
05:02:29,720 --> 05:02:32,120
Speaker 1: and so I just look, I'm like, Okay, they said

5980
05:02:32,160 --> 05:02:34,920
Speaker 1: they had no musts. I tend to not believe it

5981
05:02:34,960 --> 05:02:36,440
Speaker 1: because this is what they did in the for a month.

5982
05:02:36,520 --> 05:02:40,480
Speaker 1: I think that's what their goal was all the way around. Now,

5983
05:02:40,520 --> 05:02:42,360
Speaker 1: they've got a guy that they think can push for

5984
05:02:42,480 --> 05:02:45,640
Speaker 1: the starting guard job and be an insurance policy at tackle.

5985
05:02:46,080 --> 05:02:48,560
Speaker 1: And so now we check that. I don't think I'm

5986
05:02:48,560 --> 05:02:50,360
Speaker 1: not gonna say you don't need to worry about O line,

5987
05:02:50,400 --> 05:02:51,960
Speaker 1: but I don't think we need to be hunting O

5988
05:02:52,160 --> 05:02:55,400
Speaker 1: linemen tomorrow. And now you can talk about receivers, you

5989
05:02:55,440 --> 05:02:57,800
Speaker 1: can talk about tight ends, you can talk about edge rushers.

5990
05:02:58,120 --> 05:03:01,680
Speaker 1: That's where mind mind goes because I've gotten in way

5991
05:03:01,680 --> 05:03:04,600
Speaker 1: too many arguments on Thursday night after the first round

5992
05:03:05,480 --> 05:03:08,320
Speaker 1: about guys that we were wildly right on and wildly

5993
05:03:08,360 --> 05:03:11,240
Speaker 1: wrong on. Like it almost feels like a waste of breath.

5994
05:03:11,280 --> 05:03:13,360
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, this was the pick. It's not what

5995
05:03:13,400 --> 05:03:14,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people would have done. We'll see how

5996
05:03:14,919 --> 05:03:19,240
Speaker 1: it pans out. Yeah, I again, that's that these this

5997
05:03:19,440 --> 05:03:21,960
Speaker 1: is what was crazy about their draft, or not the

5998
05:03:22,040 --> 05:03:25,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys draft, but just the draft overall. You know, you know,

5999
05:03:25,400 --> 05:03:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my board. I had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.

6000
05:03:32,080 --> 05:03:34,720
Speaker 1: I had eleven players taken out of the second round,

6001
05:03:35,280 --> 05:03:36,919
Speaker 1: and then I had a player taken out of the third,

6002
05:03:36,960 --> 05:03:39,400
Speaker 1: which was Smith. And then you look at what the

6003
05:03:39,520 --> 05:03:42,440
Speaker 1: Patriots did you know was strange I had in the

6004
05:03:42,520 --> 05:03:45,760
Speaker 1: fourth you know, so this was one of those drafts

6005
05:03:45,800 --> 05:03:48,280
Speaker 1: that was kind of crazy in that way that maybe

6006
05:03:48,759 --> 05:03:51,280
Speaker 1: you know that that you know, and I don't know.

6007
05:03:51,680 --> 05:03:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if they the fact that they I

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05:03:54,640 --> 05:03:57,520
Speaker 1: don't know if if it's true or not about that

6009
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Speaker 1: they had Smith over Johnson and Green. You know, I

6010
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Speaker 1: kind of find that a little bit hard to believe.

6011
05:04:05,840 --> 05:04:09,000
Speaker 1: Hard to believe, but again, that's their board. Yeah, I

6012
05:04:09,120 --> 05:04:11,680
Speaker 1: have my board. They have their board. You know, their

6013
05:04:11,759 --> 05:04:13,960
Speaker 1: board matters more than my board. And I'm glad you

6014
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Speaker 1: brought that up because a lot of people on Twitter,

6015
05:04:16,160 --> 05:04:19,920
Speaker 1: and deservedly so, are saying the word reach. They felt

6016
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Speaker 1: like he reached on Tyler Smith. And in your opinion, yes,

6017
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Speaker 1: and in our opinion to a certain extent, yes, Brian

6018
05:04:27,120 --> 05:04:29,320
Speaker 1: said it already. It's a third round player on his board.

6019
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Speaker 1: He was a second round player on my board. They

6020
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Speaker 1: thought that we think that's a reach to them, that

6021
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Speaker 1: might not be a reach. They may have gotten their guy.

6022
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Speaker 1: It's it's in beauties in the guye of the beholder.

6023
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Speaker 1: They know the player more than we do to a

6024
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Speaker 1: certain except they worked him out at Tulsa. They were

6025
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Speaker 1: at his pro day. He's a hometown product. They had

6026
05:04:46,160 --> 05:04:50,640
Speaker 1: plenty private So the next time an NFL team doesn't

6027
05:04:50,640 --> 05:04:52,880
Speaker 1: get their guy, I'll be the first time. Though. I agree,

6028
05:04:52,919 --> 05:04:54,840
Speaker 1: by the way, that's the second and second part about it,

6029
05:04:54,919 --> 05:04:57,000
Speaker 1: that that makes sense. And they'll get two more of

6030
05:04:57,080 --> 05:05:00,840
Speaker 1: their guys tomorrow. Yeah, they'll get up to and they'll say,

6031
05:05:00,919 --> 05:05:03,640
Speaker 1: we could not believe that so and so and so

6032
05:05:03,800 --> 05:05:06,240
Speaker 1: and so were there, but here we are just having

6033
05:05:06,280 --> 05:05:07,879
Speaker 1: the best luck of all time. I mean, that's kind

6034
05:05:07,919 --> 05:05:10,880
Speaker 1: of how this thing works. But no, I, like I said,

6035
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, I've done this too many times

6036
05:05:14,160 --> 05:05:16,680
Speaker 1: to just emphatically think it was a good or bad decision.

6037
05:05:16,800 --> 05:05:20,960
Speaker 1: But when you snapshot this thing, when we're here years

6038
05:05:21,080 --> 05:05:23,880
Speaker 1: from now talking about this, it'll be this three pick

6039
05:05:24,040 --> 05:05:27,680
Speaker 1: stretch right here, number twenty four to number twenty six,

6040
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Speaker 1: Tyler Smith, actually no, to twenty seventh. There, Tyler Smith,

6041
05:05:32,880 --> 05:05:38,000
Speaker 1: Tyler Linderbaum, Jermaine Johnson, Devin Lloyd. That's how this draft.

6042
05:05:38,080 --> 05:05:40,759
Speaker 1: Those were all three players that I had. I had

6043
05:05:40,800 --> 05:05:43,360
Speaker 1: two of the three in the first round. Lloyd was

6044
05:05:43,440 --> 05:05:47,960
Speaker 1: my seventh best overall player, Linderbaum was at ten, you know,

6045
05:05:48,200 --> 05:05:51,040
Speaker 1: and then with Johnson. I had he was the He

6046
05:05:51,240 --> 05:05:54,280
Speaker 1: was my top rated player in the second in the

6047
05:05:54,400 --> 05:05:58,360
Speaker 1: second round. So yeah, And you know that's the great

6048
05:05:58,400 --> 05:06:00,480
Speaker 1: thing about this is we come on, we talk about it,

6049
05:06:00,520 --> 05:06:03,200
Speaker 1: we analyze this, and I hadn't been in a war

6050
05:06:03,280 --> 05:06:05,440
Speaker 1: room in a long time. I'm just looking at the players.

6051
05:06:05,560 --> 05:06:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm just taking the best, the best tape I can

6052
05:06:07,919 --> 05:06:10,000
Speaker 1: get and watching this guy. They have a hell of

6053
05:06:10,040 --> 05:06:12,880
Speaker 1: a lot more about this guy. And the one thing

6054
05:06:12,960 --> 05:06:15,160
Speaker 1: they've proven to me is they could take first round

6055
05:06:15,240 --> 05:06:19,040
Speaker 1: lineman and make it work. So that's my hope. That's

6056
05:06:19,080 --> 05:06:22,040
Speaker 1: my hope. I'd be more than happy to admit some

6057
05:06:22,280 --> 05:06:24,280
Speaker 1: day at the Lake that I was dead ass wrong

6058
05:06:24,360 --> 05:06:26,360
Speaker 1: about this guy. You know that I had a third

6059
05:06:26,440 --> 05:06:28,520
Speaker 1: round grade. But I do see a big man. I

6060
05:06:28,680 --> 05:06:31,520
Speaker 1: do see a guy that plays that does a great

6061
05:06:31,560 --> 05:06:33,560
Speaker 1: job in the run game as far as getting pushed.

6062
05:06:34,000 --> 05:06:36,200
Speaker 1: But I think there's some things technically that he's going

6063
05:06:36,240 --> 05:06:38,320
Speaker 1: to have to clean up in this league. I just

6064
05:06:38,480 --> 05:06:41,720
Speaker 1: think we spend so much time hyping this up and

6065
05:06:42,040 --> 05:06:43,800
Speaker 1: it takes a whole year to come back around. We

6066
05:06:43,880 --> 05:06:46,079
Speaker 1: always forget, we get lost in the hype of the draft.

6067
05:06:46,800 --> 05:06:50,240
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys draft grades are guidelines. You know,

6068
05:06:50,440 --> 05:06:53,519
Speaker 1: they had a higher grade on Micah than the cornerbacks

6069
05:06:53,600 --> 05:06:55,680
Speaker 1: last year, but they were going to take a cornerback

6070
05:06:55,759 --> 05:06:59,840
Speaker 1: above him jumping tags, I guess. And I don't know

6071
05:07:00,000 --> 05:07:01,560
Speaker 1: what their board looks like right now. They say that,

6072
05:07:01,800 --> 05:07:03,680
Speaker 1: they say that he had a first round grade. I

6073
05:07:03,720 --> 05:07:05,840
Speaker 1: don't know if I buy that. Maybe he really was

6074
05:07:05,919 --> 05:07:09,120
Speaker 1: the highest grade left or maybe he filled the role

6075
05:07:09,200 --> 05:07:11,440
Speaker 1: that they circled before the draft is what they needed

6076
05:07:11,480 --> 05:07:13,360
Speaker 1: to do. They did a really good job of keeping

6077
05:07:13,400 --> 05:07:15,920
Speaker 1: that a secret from people. Unless kept it closes. This

6078
05:07:16,160 --> 05:07:18,239
Speaker 1: is as good as a job as they've done. Unless

6079
05:07:18,360 --> 05:07:20,840
Speaker 1: on top of it, you know, and maybe maybe somebody

6080
05:07:20,880 --> 05:07:23,120
Speaker 1: like and I'm not gonna say mil kiper got lucky,

6081
05:07:23,680 --> 05:07:25,800
Speaker 1: you know, got lucky here, because there's some people that

6082
05:07:25,960 --> 05:07:29,400
Speaker 1: picked They picked Tyler Smith, you know, in this in

6083
05:07:29,560 --> 05:07:32,520
Speaker 1: this draft, and you know, I'm impressed if you you know,

6084
05:07:32,600 --> 05:07:35,640
Speaker 1: I mentioned lanz Zerline picking you know, Kenyan Green at

6085
05:07:35,680 --> 05:07:38,200
Speaker 1: Texas A and m at you know, thirteen fourteen, whatever

6086
05:07:38,280 --> 05:07:40,919
Speaker 1: that pick was. So I mean, some of these guys,

6087
05:07:41,160 --> 05:07:42,840
Speaker 1: you know, they knew what was going on. And I'm

6088
05:07:42,880 --> 05:07:44,680
Speaker 1: not saying that mil kiper knew what was going on,

6089
05:07:45,080 --> 05:07:47,280
Speaker 1: but maybe that was a player. He thought, well, heck,

6090
05:07:47,320 --> 05:07:49,840
Speaker 1: I gotta put an offensive lineman too, Dallas, and I

6091
05:07:49,919 --> 05:07:52,520
Speaker 1: got all these other guys gone. You know, that might

6092
05:07:52,600 --> 05:07:55,000
Speaker 1: be just filling in the spots right there. But hey,

6093
05:07:55,280 --> 05:07:57,840
Speaker 1: I hope I do. I hope he works out very,

6094
05:07:57,960 --> 05:08:01,239
Speaker 1: very well for the Cowboys. I have my doubts, but again,

6095
05:08:01,400 --> 05:08:03,879
Speaker 1: that is a big, big, big man. That's an athlete.

6096
05:08:04,080 --> 05:08:07,759
Speaker 1: Congratulations to Tyler Smith. He was the twenty fourth overall selection,

6097
05:08:07,840 --> 05:08:10,120
Speaker 1: the newest Dallas Cowboy. We got to talk to him

6098
05:08:10,120 --> 05:08:12,280
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier on one oh five three the Fan.

6099
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Speaker 1: We'll also have two more draft picks at the moment tomorrow.

6100
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Speaker 1: There could be some chance for more draft picks along

6101
05:08:18,759 --> 05:08:20,920
Speaker 1: the way. They've got four fifth round picks they could

6102
05:08:20,919 --> 05:08:23,200
Speaker 1: play around with. Maybe they jump back in to the

6103
05:08:23,280 --> 05:08:25,400
Speaker 1: third round and make something happen. But that's gonna do

6104
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Speaker 1: it for us here on Night one of the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Draft Special Thanks to everybody who's helped

6106
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Speaker 1: pull this off, not only tonight but throughout the entire

6107
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Speaker 1: draft process. Chris Beam, Matt Kent, Tim Collins, All, Ted Nichols,

6108
05:08:38,440 --> 05:08:40,600
Speaker 1: Pain all a big, huge part of this in the

6109
05:08:40,640 --> 05:08:43,919
Speaker 1: back making things happen. Jasmine Marshall back there as well.

6110
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Speaker 1: William hanging out too, Man, William boykins On takes a

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Speaker 1: village to put us on man. Apparently we're getting some

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Speaker 1: intel that Williams here for the free food, but thanks

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Speaker 1: to Papa John's two for the free Papa Johns are

6114
05:08:56,200 --> 05:08:59,800
Speaker 1: great friends over at Miller Lite toasting the twenty fourth over.

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Speaker 1: I'll pick we love our friends at Miller Lte but

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Speaker 1: for Bobby Belt, for Sean Serreef, for Brian broad Us,

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Speaker 1: David Helmet, I'm Kyle Lmans. We'll see you tomorrow. We

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Speaker 1: get start at six pm Central Time on one oh

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Speaker 1: five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. So long, everybody.

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