1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Ron and an Ian, I will tell you this, and 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: this is right out of the shop. Every week we're 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: seeing the problem get worse every week. There is a 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: definite shortage of certain parts. May started. He's the car doctor. 5 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: We got Chevy Traverse that we've already put seventy miles from. Wow, 6 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: like put the miles on the older. Yeah, but where's 7 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 1: your farm Alaska? And you drive home to Missouri every night. 8 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian, the 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the world 10 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 12 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls at eight five 14 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: five and running. Hey, how do you do? And here 15 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: I am all ready to go and talk to you 16 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: about your car and it's problem and anything else you 17 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: want to talk about. That's what this radio show is for, 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: for you to sort of vent your ideas, ask your questions, 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: and have your concerns qualmed. I think that's a word. 20 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: Is that a word? Tom q U a l any day? Qualmed? 21 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I want to ask how the 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: turkey is doing. The turkey is um for those of 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: you that are just turning in, we're cooking a turkey 24 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: here at the studio on the egg. We have all 25 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: the latest features here at the at the studio for 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: the car doctor. And you know, I found a technological 27 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: glitch tom the temperature probe of the turkey. Well, the turkey. 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: There's a probe in the turkey, the poor thing. And 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: there's a probe on top of the grill. The probe 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: on top of the grill says it's four and ten degrees, 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: which is too hot. But the thermometer that's in the 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: egg says it's three and fifties. So I'm gonna trust 33 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: that one as being accurate and think the probe is 34 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: maybe uh reading reading differently, so um uh, you know 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: we've got to subtract about seventy degrees off the reading. 36 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: But keep an eye on it. It's almost done. What 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: time are you coming the uh? I don't know what 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: time were we off the air? Well, we're off the 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: air in an hour and then uh dinners about five thirty, 40 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: So you know it's it's you know, we're gonna do 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna do gravy. We're gonna do a real Thanksgiving cranberries. 42 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean the halt word. This is a this is 43 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: a complete test run. What else would you expect from 44 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: a mechanic. We have a complete road test of everything 45 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: that we're gonna do to make sure that Thursday goes 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: without a hitch. It's listen. I still remember last Thanksgiving, 47 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: and it's funny. I see our first question this hour, 48 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna talk to Tom about Let's go 49 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: talk to Tom first, and I'll tell you I remember 50 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: our the call last Thanksgiving, Tom with his twenty two 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: super U. I President Tom, Welcome to the car doctor, 52 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: Sir hi Ron, congratulations to DAUGHTA thank you, sir um. 53 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: You know, last Thanksgiving we had a last Thanksgiving, we 54 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: had a super U with a crash avoidance question, and uh, 55 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 1: it was because my wife made the test turkey and 56 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: well she made the test turkey and the gray me 57 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: and it fogged my glasses and I realized what the 58 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: problem was with the that super roof of the lady 59 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: in Florida. What's going on with yours? Well, actually it's 60 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: my daughter's cald We literally just picked it up a 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. Um she claims the accident avoidance 62 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: thing was on, but a deer ran in front of 63 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: her and at a number on the old front of 64 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: the car. I'm wondering if uh forentics can see if 65 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: that was actually on when the impact happened. I don't 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: know for certain time, but I've got to believe they 67 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: can because the black boxes on these cars, especially in 68 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: the last five years, this current generation, they can look 69 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: at everything and reconstruct the accident down to a very 70 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: fine degree. I would tell you that Subaru has come 71 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: out with a bulletin bulletin number fifteen dish to sixty 72 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: seven dish twenty yards. It's dated within the last year. 73 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: It was just updated as a matter of fact, this November, 74 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: and it talks about how they're self driving or I'm sorry, 75 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: they're they're they're telematic is what they call it. They're 76 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: telematics system, automatic collision notification and advanced collision notification systems work. 77 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: In other words, here's some of the things it can do, 78 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: here's some of the things it can't do. And I 79 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: think it's a must read. They don't show you this 80 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: before you buy the car. They just tell you that 81 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: the car is you know how safe it is, which 82 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: is it's not a bad car, but you know it's 83 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: it's not it's not it can't do everything. There are 84 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: some limitations, and you know, I think this bulletin is 85 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: a must read for every super runer, anything purchased within 86 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: the last five years that are operating one of these systems. 87 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: You know. Part of my concern with self driving and 88 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: automatic collision and all these and they are great safety features, 89 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: is we as humans are gonna make the mistake of 90 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: trusting the vehicle a percent and I don't know that 91 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: you can um, you know, Uncle Steve, I'm quoting Uncle 92 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: Steve for the second time in this week's show. Uncle 93 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: Steve always said the most important heart of an airplane 94 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: and a fighter pilot was his neck. I'll never forget that. 95 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: I said, why was anical, Steve? He says, because you're 96 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: always doing this, And he would pivot his head around 97 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: the room and look behind them and look to the side, 98 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: look down, look up. He said, You're always looking. He said. 99 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: In the day you're not looking is the day you 100 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: got shot down. And you know what, the day we 101 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: accept the car is being perfect, that it can do everything. 102 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that it can. I don't. I don't 103 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: know that we should. I you know not. I was. 104 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: I was kind of shocked. You can actually shut it off. 105 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: But I made a good point though. If you're in 106 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: a cow wash or going up the ramp truck, you 107 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: have to have it off. Sure, and then you say 108 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: to yourself, but what happens if you get the turn 109 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: it back on? Yeah, you would think it would be 110 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: a bigger notice, you know, right across the dash. You know, 111 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, I don't remember this kid though. You know, 112 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: these are all great ideas, self driving cars, uh, anti 113 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, collision avoidance, anti crash, all these ideas that 114 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: were coming up with their great there's still an element 115 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 1: of human in them and in a lot of these things, 116 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: and it still requires driving. You have to be alert, 117 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: you have to be involved, and you have to be 118 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: paying attention. And it's I don't think that's changing text 119 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: with you know right, it's it's you know what did 120 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: I read? Um? Somebody was suing a car company two 121 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: years ago because their cruise control they put the car 122 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: on cruise in the car got in an accident and 123 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: they didn't understand that the cruise control wasn't self driving. 124 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: It just meant that the car would maintain that speed. 125 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: You still had to steer and stop the car. And yeah, 126 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's just not hard to comprehend. I think, uh, 127 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: I think the road ahead is gonna be bumpy for 128 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: some people, if I can say it like that. But 129 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: get your hands Yeah, we got what we do. Have 130 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: a long way to go, and that's why I don't think. 131 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna change, but it's gonna be a 132 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: slow evolution. Get your hands on bullets in fifteen to 133 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: sixty and it talks about vehicles equipped with generation one 134 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: or two telematics. Go talk to your super rude dealer, 135 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry your daughter had the accident. I hope 136 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: she's okay. Make sure obviously when they put it together, 137 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to do an a DOS calibration, uh 138 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: that that vehicle is gonna have to go through some 139 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: serious calibration effort to get it back on the road. 140 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: But you know, you know, we wish you the best. 141 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: All right, sir, you're very welcome. Good turkey to you. Yes, sir, 142 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: let's go over to Mary Joe in Minnesota, ten Caddy, 143 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: and let's see what's going on here? Mary Joe. Welcome 144 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: to the car doctor. How can I help? Hi? Thanks 145 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: for thinking I've got I am in northern Minnesota. Winter 146 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: has arrived, okay, how much? Um? Well, we've had melted 147 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. We've got about six inches okay, but 148 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: we also have ice on the road. I have a 149 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten Cadillac sr X point eight Leader. 150 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: She just slipped over, Yes, she slipped over to a 151 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: hundred miles. Gotcha? Um. I had engine light come on 152 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: about two weeks ago as I was backing out of 153 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: my garage and I drove it right to the dealership, 154 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: which is about a mile away from my home. They 155 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: read the quote for me, told me that it was 156 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: probably the timing chain. I thank them, talked to them 157 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: about that. My husband has a couple of different mechanics 158 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: that he uses in Talnge for our vehicles. And they said, well, 159 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: we ran your van and we see that you have 160 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: a recall, and I said, yes, a matter of factory 161 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: called getting that recall, hung it on the fridge thunder 162 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: a magnet, and I had gotten it in August and 163 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: it was a recall, a safety recall. What the safety 164 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: recall told me that the parts were not available yet, 165 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: that they would be notifying me when the parts were available. 166 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: So the mechanic told that. Actually, the trouvist manager told me, 167 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: we have the parts available, so if you want to 168 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: make an appointment to have this done, we'll do this 169 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: for you. I said sure, and talked to my husband 170 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: about it, and he said, go ahead and let them 171 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: do that. And it was for a swaar um. We 172 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: had a snow storm that day. I dropped the car 173 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: off early in the morning. Didn't have any problems driving 174 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: there a very good tires, cars, very locaking care of 175 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: They called me that the job was done. I went 176 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: to pick it up. I was slipping and slide now 177 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: all over the place while we've been we were having this, 178 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, early fall storm. It's kind of wet snow. 179 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: I drove her home, pulled her in into the garage 180 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: on a Friday afternoon. Chet the garage store didn't look 181 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: at it again until Sunday afternoon and we went to 182 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: go do some shopping and we pulled out onto the 183 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: road which is now ice. Because there's a lot of 184 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: water in this we couldn't drive the car. It wouldn't 185 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: stay in a straight line. It felt like my husband said, 186 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: it feels like we're driving on ball bearing on the road. 187 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: Pulled it back into the garage again. He brought it 188 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: down to the dealership on Monday morning and they took 189 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: a look at it. My tires are towing in the bar, 190 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: this total lake sway bar. The replacement part is not adjustable. 191 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: I still don't have my car back. They can't and 192 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: they won't let me take it off the lot because 193 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: it's dangerous, and frankly, I don't want to drive it 194 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: because it's very dangerous right now. Is it possible it's 195 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: the wrong part? I don't think. How would it be 196 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: the wrong part? Well, did it look like the original 197 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: that they took off? I did not see it. I 198 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: was not there. But what the service manager told us 199 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: that the original is adjustable. The new ones are not adjustable. Well, 200 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 1: that makes no sense. So I actually went on the 201 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: CALLAC forum and spoke with a couple of people on 202 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: They're they're having exactly the same problem because they're not adjustable. Well, 203 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: being well, I'll tell you what. I'm gonna pull over 204 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: and take a pause because I don't want to rush 205 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: this and we're up against the clock, So I'll sit tight, 206 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: Mary Joe. When the car doctor returns, we'll have some 207 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: answers for you and we'll talk about a little bit more. 208 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm Ron Any and the car Doctor. I'll be back 209 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: right after this. Have what's more fun than listening to 210 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: Ron and Any in the car doctor and getting that 211 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: car fixed? Right? A five? Five five zero zero. Give 212 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: Ron a call now back to Ron. Hey, we're talking 213 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: with Mary Joe in Minnesota, a better Cadillac. Mary Joe, 214 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: you're still there, I am. So did you say front 215 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: toe link or rear toe link to link? Right? The 216 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: rear toe link recall and it's going, but it's going 217 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: to be replaced with an adjustable link. Take a look at, 218 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: you know what? Tell them to take a look at. 219 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: And it's it's preliminary information under GM. It's p I 220 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: T six and it talks about rear toe link and 221 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, it is a secondary bulletin 222 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: that accompanies it that talks about torque spec on the 223 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: two nuts for the rear toe link adjusters. He went 224 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: back in on Wednesday, this past Wednesday, so the service 225 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: manager would see my face and what was going on. 226 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: He told me that he had finally heard from GM Tech. 227 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: They had given him a set of instructions to follow. 228 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: They would do it the next day. We still have 229 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: not heard back from them. My car is still sitting 230 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: in the same spot as it was, only dropped to 231 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: the off that well. You know, they looked at it. 232 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: You got you got, you got a pencil in a 233 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: piece of paper. I do. Okay, right down, that's all 234 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: the further right down this part number two oh two 235 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: O eight six six three. That's the part number in 236 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: the in the pit bulletin that talks about out the 237 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: toe link replacement. I think they've got the wrong part 238 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: in that car. I really do, and I not through 239 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: their fault. I think there's a miscommunication somewhere because I 240 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: have replaced some of these links, not on that particular year. 241 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: But you know, adjustable out, adjustable in, it's got to 242 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: be adjusted, and if it's not, it would be such 243 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: a major revision. See where I would be looking just 244 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: for giggles, if I wanted more answers, if my alignment 245 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: machine was up to date, for example, you know, we'll 246 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: use a Hunter machine. Hunter is right on top of 247 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: their game. If GM had had a an update where 248 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: they said, hey, we're going to take out an adjustable 249 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: toll link and put in a non adjustable toll link. 250 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: I can almost guarantee within ninety days, Hunter is going 251 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: to tell me that in my alignment procedure, because a 252 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: lot of the alignment machines today will tell you when 253 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: you do an alignment, here's how you make the adjustment, 254 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: or here's how you compensate for that adjustment that's no 255 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: longer adjustable. But somewhere somebody would have better information. I 256 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: think these guys have wrong information. I hate, I hate 257 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: to point the finger, but I just think they're they're 258 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: they're not getting everything they need to get. Okay, can 259 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: I repeat that number back to zero eight six three right? 260 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: Ask them, Ask them if that's the part number they 261 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: put on the vehicle, and if it isn't, tell them 262 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: to take a look at they call it. GM comes 263 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: out with preliminary information. So they're not they're not bulletins, 264 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: they're not recalls, they're not campaigns. They're called pits um, 265 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: which maybe that's where you are sometimes when you try 266 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: to work on say there you go. I knew there's 267 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: a reason they call it a pit um, and it's 268 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: it's yea and it's going to be dated July one, 269 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: so it's fairly new, all right. Listen, it would be 270 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: when I believe that they do have a new alignment 271 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: machine there too. Okay, well, you know maybe there, maybe 272 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: they missed it. Listen, they must have missed They must 273 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: have missed something. Think of it like this, a company 274 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: the size of General Motors. All right, that's fairly competent. 275 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: All right, They're not perfect. What company is? UM produces 276 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: X number of cars and one day they decide, Hey, 277 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: we're going to change this adjustable link into a non 278 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: adjustable link, and we're gonna make him put it in 279 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: the car, and then all of a sudden, every car 280 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be wrong. Everybody's got to be going through this. UM, 281 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: you know this. You can't be the only one. Somebody 282 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: will know. I will tell you that that the UM 283 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: service manager did tell my husband, after a lengthy conversation, 284 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: that there was another woman that had had hers in 285 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: the week before they replaced it, and the next day 286 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: she rolled her car and total that there you go. 287 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: You know, it always comes back to the last thing 288 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: that was touched or replaced. I'll never forget thirty maybe 289 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: thirty five years ago. I'm dating myself here. Somebody brought 290 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: me a Ford Thunderbird that didn't run well when it 291 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: was called, and I ran through the gamut of what 292 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: it could be, and it got down to where I 293 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: was looking at part numbers of things that had been 294 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: replaced or just on the car, because I had very 295 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: little information. And finally somebody that brought me the car said, oh, yeah, 296 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: we had a bad fuel injector, and I think it 297 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: started right after that. Hello. I checked the part number 298 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: of that injector versus the part number that should be 299 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: on the car. It was off by one digit. It 300 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: was a V It was a V eight car. Somebody 301 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: had put an injector in for a V six. It 302 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: had a different flow rate for fuel. Put the correct 303 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: injector in the car. It was fixed, mismatched parts. You 304 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: know a lot of So now there's always a reason, 305 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: I listen, there's always a reason why a car does 306 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: what it does. One thing I can say about cars, 307 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: I have more faith and broken cars and being able 308 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: to sort them out than a lot of other things 309 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: in the world today, because a lot of things in 310 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: the world today don't make any sense. Um. But but 311 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: but cars I can always I can always sort out 312 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: a car by just kind of going through the process, 313 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's it's what. What prevents a 314 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: car from being fixed is either somebody doesn't have the 315 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: pocketbook to fix it, or the desire or the time. 316 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 1: And you know, there's always a reason, always a reason. 317 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: I remember as a kid, I went to my buddy Russell. 318 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: He you know, we were so excited. He did volkswagons. 319 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: As a kid, he got a job at the local 320 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: Volkswagon dealership. I was always an independent kind of guy. 321 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: I like to work on everything. I would go visit 322 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: Russell at lunchtime. And one day, and this was the 323 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: guy's nickname, fat Tony, fat Tony wait three pounds. He 324 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: squeezed himself into these little volkswagons. He was the lead 325 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: tech at the local Volkswagen dealership. I was sitting there 326 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: having lunch with Russell. One day, fat Tony came in. 327 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: He goes, look, I finally figured out what was wrong 328 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: with the jetted diesel and he showed us they had 329 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: this brand new jetted diesel that nobody could fix it. 330 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: Turns out Tony took it apart and found the exhausted 331 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: annifold the center to exhaust ports were never drilled at 332 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: the factory, and we're restricting the car. So there's always 333 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: a reason, always a reason why something's broke given those numbers. 334 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: Call me back next week, Mary, Joe, let me know 335 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: what happens. And uh, I'll say a lot of fat 336 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: tony for you if I ever see him again. I'm 337 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: running Nay of the Car Doctor. I'll be back. We're 338 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away. Yeah, we're back. We're 339 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: name of the Car Doctor. Hey, Tom, I might have 340 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: to make this segment a little sure than most of 341 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: the turkeys at five I got, I got twenty degrees 342 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: to go, so um, just just just making you a 343 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: were But you know I can always sing. And the 344 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: show may end early today, so we'll say because I 345 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: have to leave it, you know, so sorry the turkey's done. Um. Anyway, 346 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: let's go for a little bit of a little bit 347 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 1: of holiday Thanksgiving Thanksgiving fun. Let's go to Bob and Delaware. 348 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: Understand the phones are working again in Delaware and the 349 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 1: electrons are moving around. Bob, how can I help you today? Sir? 350 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor. I mean two thousands one 351 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: Chevy astro Van and when I started, and it's like racist. 352 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: I was just wanting and I changed through the vacting 353 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: line but didn't make any difference. Okay. Does it do 354 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: it all the time? Bob? And when you say it 355 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: races more so than normal, you've had the car, you've 356 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: owned the car for a while, yes, okay, Yeah, we 357 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: won't come up like a fast idle all right? And 358 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: is it always on fast title even after it warms 359 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: up or after it warms up it drops out? No, 360 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't, doesn't do any doesn't make any difference. Okay, 361 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: So it's always on a fast title. Okay, So anybody 362 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: try to work on it and he check engine light 363 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: on anything like that anything Now it's uh, there's service 364 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: engine like anything. Okay. So service engine is check engine 365 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: And have you pulled it? Have you pulled codes on it? No? 366 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: I haven't, So I got to. I mean that's step one. 367 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: You know. You ever notice when you go to the 368 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: doctor that whatever, ever go to the doctor for a 369 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: sore of throat? What do they always do? Heart rate, 370 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: blood pressure, look in your eyes, you know how you're feeling. Preliminaries. 371 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: They always do preliminaries. Same thing with a car, different model. 372 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: All right, Now, I could I could tell you where 373 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: I think you're going here, but I'd really like to 374 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: know what that fault code is. All right, that's that's 375 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: that's really key. Uh. You know you're gonna need you 376 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: you or somebody or your mechanic is obviously gonna need 377 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: to SCANTL which I'm sure he has, but it's gonna 378 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: be a matter of what's that fault code? How long 379 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: has the light being on? The lights? The light come 380 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: on when the vehicle started running it fast idle cold? 381 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: Or has the light been on for a while. No, 382 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: it's just after after a while away. Okay, So chances 383 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: are the lights related to the fast idle issue. So 384 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: let me let me explain it like this, Bob, the 385 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: way they control idle speed on that car. Uh, you 386 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: got a front door to the house. If if you 387 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: want to if you want to let more air into 388 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: the house, what do you do? You open the front door? Right? So, 389 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: that car has something called an idle air control motor. 390 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: All right, it's the front door. Okay, they opened the 391 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: front door. They opened the idle air control motor. A 392 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: little bit. The computer says, hey, I want to see 393 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: this RPM It looks at some of its other inputs 394 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: and it says, hey, I want to see an RPM 395 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: of X, and it bumps open the idle air control. 396 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: It kicks open the front door. Hey, I didn't see 397 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: the I didn't see the right response. Let me kick 398 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: it open a little bit more. Let me kick it 399 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: open a little bit more. Let me kick it open 400 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more. If it gets to a point 401 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: where it doesn't see correct response, guess what happens. Check 402 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: service engine. It comes on BINGO. Now the other thing 403 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: they look at there's two key inputs here, well three. 404 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: They look at cooling temp. They want to know that 405 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: you know what's cooling temperature? Is that accurate? And listen? 406 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: An inaccurate cool intempt sensor could kick the idle speed 407 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: up on this vehicle overnight in the blink of an eye. 408 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: All right, low coolant level will affect idle quality or 409 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: idle determination. If there's no coolant in the vehicle, or 410 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: if it's low on cooling and it doesn't surround the sensor, 411 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: it could compromise the puter strategy. But let's not get there. 412 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: We're getting ahead of ourselves. UM cool intempt censor, throttle 413 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: position sensor, idle air control motor throttle position sensor on 414 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: this vehicle is just something that sits on the throttle 415 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: plate and tells the computer throttle position. All right. It 416 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: always has to see it always has to see zero 417 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: percent at idle. If it doesn't, if, for example, it's 418 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: a five old censor, let me see if I how 419 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: can I can explain this. It's a five old sensor. 420 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: Three wires al right, ones, a five old feed ones, 421 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: a ground one signal out all right. If you were 422 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: to look at it on a scan tool, key on 423 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: engine off, so you could go wide open throttle. As 424 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: you gradually increased your gas pedal, you would see throttle 425 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: position sensor go from zero percent up to when it 426 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: hit wide open throttle. It's it's a calculated value based 427 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: on input from the sensor. If that sensor doesn't report perly, 428 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: if for some reason it shows a negative percentage, which 429 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: I've seen them do as they age, it'll bump the 430 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: idole speed all the time. Your key, your key is 431 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: gonna be wise that service engine light on what fault 432 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: code is there? Now? You may get a fault code 433 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: that says idle air control circuit input or response invalid. 434 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean it's a bad idle air control motor. 435 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: All right? There are there are, and I want to 436 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: say it like this for your and everyone else's benefit. 437 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: There are very few fault codes that say oxygen sensor, 438 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: change the sensor. It's oxygen sensor performance, idole air control, 439 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: motor performance, idle air control motor feedback, throttle position, sensor 440 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: base setting or something. It'll be. It's telling you to 441 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: look at that circuit and how it's controlled. So do this. Okay. 442 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: Do you have a scan tool? Do you have access 443 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: to a scan tool? No? Okay? Do you have if 444 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: you have an O'Reilly order parts by you? No? I don't, okay. Um, 445 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: if you could find one, you know you could go there. 446 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: They will scan the vehicle for free and at least 447 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: tell you what the fault code is. But if not, 448 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: then you've got to take it to your local mechanic 449 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: at least get a code skin. If you can tell 450 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: me what code it is and they can't diagnose it 451 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: more than that, call me back next week and I 452 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: can give you better information. But that key, that code 453 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: is going to be key, all right, sir. The only 454 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: thing we have down here is all though his own 455 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: and uh, they may do it as well, you know, 456 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: but I would I would go see will they will 457 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: they scan it? How many miles are on this vehicle, 458 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of possibilities. Not that mileedge, not 459 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: that miledge predicates what goes bad, But that just tells 460 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: me it's it's it's it's not a spring chicken, as 461 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect it to be. It's twenty one, twenty 462 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: years old. So uh, you know, it's just kind of funny. 463 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: You know, my friend Carpenter Bob that you guys always 464 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: hear me talking about this one isn't blue by chance? 465 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: Is it? You're this isn't a blue astro van? Is it? Okay? 466 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: I would just laugh if I had another Bob with 467 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: a blue astro van, and then if you told me 468 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: then if you then if you told me you had 469 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: a beard, I'd go, boy, that's just too weird. That 470 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: would just be too much of a coincidence. So um 471 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: but anyway, all right, Bobby, listen, do that. Have yourself 472 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: a good Thanksgiving, Get the code scanned, get it scanned, 473 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: Come me back next week, tell me what the code is. 474 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: I can give you a real good information from there. 475 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: All right, kiddo, alright, buddy, you're very welcome. You're very welcome. 476 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: You too, Take good care. Um. Yeah, you know everybody's 477 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: gonna sitting around the kitchen table or i'm sorry, around 478 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: the dining room table and getting you know, Thanksgiving and uh, 479 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: you know, I got some thoughts about that. Let's do 480 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: it when I come back zero I'm run on any 481 00:26:48,119 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: of the car doctor, I'll return right after this. Hey, um, 482 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: this just in from Research Canthy test Less server outage. 483 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: Did you read about this time? The test Less server 484 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: outage allegedly leaves owners unable to drive their cars. Tesla 485 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: as you have to explain the outage, but the issue 486 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: appears to yeah, well, you know, there's a Winston Churchill 487 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: quote that goes something like, never so many oaths so 488 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: much to so few, YadA YadA yan. As I'm reading this, 489 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: all I can think about is never have so many 490 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: minotes so much by so few, because they left them 491 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: locked out of their cars, unable to drive somewhere. Um. 492 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: The article goes on to point out that and unexplained 493 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: five internal server server error message, which is unfortunately pretty generic. 494 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: The existed of the outage appears to be corroborated by 495 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: the website down detector dot com with reports of the 496 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: outage referring to the app Teslan. Tesla boss Elon Musk 497 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: responded by saying it's not entirely clear why the server 498 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: error would prevent the cars from starting, although some stafford 499 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: position that it could have something to do with the 500 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: Tesla app picking the company's servers. If the owner is 501 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: using their phone as a key, which many Tesla owners do, 502 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: how about that. We've got a complicated problem with an 503 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: electric vehicle. Sure can't wait till the role like that. 504 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, so wait minute, So I parked my 505 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: car under oh car poard. How does this thing get 506 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: its internet access? Is it through cellular or is it 507 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: through satellite or what what happens about in a place 508 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: with no signals? Now they're probably passing. Can't start my car? Well, 509 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: I you know, Tom, I want to know where all 510 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: these radio waves are going, that they're bouncing through buildings 511 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: and around us. That you know what I say that 512 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: sort of tongue in cheek, but you kind of wonder. Um, 513 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: that's why I wear my tinfoil hat. I knew laugh 514 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: at me, you know, I knew there was a reason. Um, 515 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: by the way, we got to hurry up the turkey? 516 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: Is that seven I got? I got eight degrees to go. Um. 517 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: This came in as a voicemail and I guess it 518 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: would have been a great call and we've gotten him. 519 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: It's John. He writes said, Hey, this is John from Chesapeake, Virginia. Uh. 520 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: This Monday, I was listening to your show and you're 521 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: talking about electric vehicles. I don't know if you brought 522 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: it up before, but I was really wondering what the 523 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: weight times will be with no gasoline lines. I think 524 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: what he's talking about is how will you charge your vehicle, 525 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: your electric vehicle out on the road. Um, if you 526 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: go from Chesapeake to Florida, he continues. John continues, he said, 527 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to charge it at least once. 528 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: How are you gonna manage to do that? And how 529 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: many charge stations are they gonna have available? I I 530 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: think to charge the cars? Would you have to wait 531 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: in a half hour or forty minutes between charges? Just 532 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: what would you do? I really don't need to call back. 533 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: If you're bringing up on the show, that would be 534 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: so nice. Thank you. Well, you know, John, I'll take 535 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: the hit because everybody's gonna tell me that I'm anti 536 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: electric car. But I'll take the hick. What the heck 537 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: I can. I can live with myself. I sleep real 538 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: good at night. I don't know that's the problem. Where 539 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: all these electric charging stations gonna come from? Where will 540 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: the grid come from? Will will the power come from? 541 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, we've said it repeatedly here. Nobody has yet 542 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: to prove me wrong that we are charging the vast majority. 543 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: We are providing the vast majority of electricity in this 544 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: country with fossil fuel plans. So where will it come from? 545 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: Are we gonna keep using fossil fuel plans? Are we 546 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: gonna build nuclear? Um? I came across a gentleman this 547 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: week that I mean, it's really kind of impressive. We 548 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: put his stuff up on our on our Facebook page. 549 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: Mark Mills from the Manhattan Institute. He's a senior fellow, 550 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: and we're talking to Mark, and I believe we're gonna 551 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: get Mark for an interview. Just go to YouTube. Do 552 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: this all right, you know, whether you think Ron is right, wrong, 553 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: a jerk, or anywhere in between. Tom, you get no 554 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: comment on that, um, you know, just go to YouTube 555 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: and type in Mark Mills Manhattan Institute. And look at 556 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: the video that comes up, or you can go to 557 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: our Facebook page. It's there too. Look at the video 558 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: that comes up about where Mark Mills and a few 559 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: other people sat and talked to John Stossel two years ago. 560 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: Now look at the math involved. You can't you know, 561 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: math doesn't lie, physics doesn't lie. So you can send 562 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: me all the little memes about you know, we're gonna 563 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: have transporters and Star Trek and phasers and everything else 564 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen on electric cars and it's all going 565 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: to appear out of the sky. Where when? Show me how? 566 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: And that's the point of my rants. That's what I 567 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: don't understand and nobody else. You know, one thing I 568 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: really am amazed at is how nobody else seems to 569 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: be talking about this because I seem to be getting 570 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: the most heat for it, which is okay. I you know, 571 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: I've got asbestos underwear. It doesn't matter to me. All right, 572 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: you can fry me all you want. I've been a 573 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: mechanic fort or five years. I've heard it all. Uh, 574 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 1: you know, show me the logic and all this, folks, 575 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: and I'll be glad to you know, patch you on 576 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: the back and say great, let's do it. But I 577 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: don't see it, and I don't I I think you're 578 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: starting to as well, or you always have now and 579 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: we're all starting to question it. But we're all just 580 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: you know. I keep thinking about what was that kids 581 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: play The Emperor has no clothes and somebody has to 582 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: be the little kid and go. But he's naked, he's 583 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: in his underwear. So I hope Tom doesn't play the 584 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: part of the emperor. Zero nine nine zero zero. I'm 585 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: gonna go check on the Turkey. I'll be back right 586 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: after this. I'm Rondaninian. Don't go away, dot Cam, welcome 587 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: back running any of the car doctor Tom. The Turkey 588 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: is at one sixty two. So what time can you 589 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: be here? Let's see, we're off the air for uh. 590 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: I can be there by four. Bring the ice cream 591 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: for dessert. But wait, wait, wait, wait, I thought you 592 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: said you had everything. Well I have almost everything. Um listen, 593 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: I think you know, and I think this is a 594 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: new record. I don't think any other radio show in 595 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: the country in the history of radio has ever cooked 596 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving dinner in the time it took to do 597 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: the radio show itself. That's kind of neat when you 598 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: think about it, you could, you know, it's like you know, 599 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: it'll probably take even less time to eat it probably 600 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: so well, Now I have to take it. Now, I 601 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: have to take it off the egg, um, bring it 602 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: into the studio kitchen and let it sit there for 603 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: I think a half hour to cool off. I have 604 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: to tent it, right, I have to hint it and 605 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: then uh, you know, slice it all. You know how 606 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: it comes out. Um. A couple of things, Um, Tom, 607 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you about this great website I found. 608 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: UM and you'll appreciate this, and you'll understand why I'm 609 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: bringing this up because we get so many questions about 610 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: how much should this cost and how much should that cost? 611 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: NAPA if you go to NAPA online dot com. And 612 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: I kind of stumbled across this the other day. I 613 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: was looking for some parts for the seventy two Monty 614 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: Carlo and NAPA has got a great, great supply of 615 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: older car parts. I mean they've got obviously they've got 616 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: new stuff, but NAP has always been like the older 617 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: car company. You know, they've got parts, They've got older 618 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: stuff in stock, it seems. And you can go to 619 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: NAPA online dot com and if you scroll through the 620 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: products listed they will you'll come up with a repair estimator. 621 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: So if everybody wants to know how much did this cost? 622 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: How much did that cost? And I tried this. I 623 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: plugged in my twenty nineteen Chevy Silverado, and you know, 624 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 1: I asked for a break bleat and it came up 625 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: with and it asked for my ZIP code, so it 626 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: does it by relevance of where you're located in the country, 627 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: and it came up with I thought was a pretty 628 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: darn close estimate and I was really kind of impressed. 629 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: So I share that with you all today NAPA online 630 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: dot com and you can go look at their repair 631 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: estimator as well as the rest of the stuff that 632 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: NAPA does. Um, you know, their parts and their the 633 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: rest of their information there, but the repairs. The repair 634 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: estimator really kind of got me. It was it was 635 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: kind of a neat piece. It's something that I'm gonna 636 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: put it as part of my catalog and use it 637 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: at the shop so I have an idea of what 638 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: the market is on certain things. It's uh, it's a 639 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: good barometer. Hey, this comes to us from the folks 640 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: over at Mitchell one Mitchell one dot com. Of course, 641 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: um you know, they were talking in their share track 642 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: Fix of the Week about Chevrolet pick up where the 643 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: fuel pump would keep running after turning off the key. 644 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 1: They put the question out to the great share track 645 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: community and with the help of everybody, they were able 646 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: to resolve the issue quickly. It's a Chevy truck. The 647 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: fuel pump ran with the UH key off. It turns 648 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: out the vehicle had a bad oil pressure switch. The 649 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: oil pressure switch um was energizing the pump and the 650 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: switch was sticking and still providing a source for the 651 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: pump to run. And you know the neat thing about 652 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: that is it kind of makes you remember, Yeah, some 653 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: of the older GM vehicles did do that. The shirt 654 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: track hummunity helped keep us, help keep it fresh in 655 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: our memory, and they were able to help fix this vehicle, 656 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: which is a thirty years old. So Mitchell one mitchell 657 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: one dot com, they're doing it all. I'm not an 658 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor. I'm doing it all. And 659 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: I'm reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See 660 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: you