1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: We're from Mahart. We're Innovation, Money and Power Collie in 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Silicon Vallet NBN. This is Bloomberg Technology with Caroline Hyde and. 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Ed Ludlow. 4 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: Live from San Francisco to our TV and radio audiences 5 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: around the world. Welcome to a special edition of Bloomberg Technology. 6 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 3: I'm Ed Ludlow. In just a few moments in vidio, 7 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: CEO Jensen Wang will join us for a live interview 8 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: following their latest earnings report, the company posting a revenue 9 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: forecast that beat consensus that fell short to some of 10 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: the most optimistic estimates, stoking concern that the explosive growth 11 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: is waning. Let's get right to Bloomberg Semiconductor correspondent Ian King, 12 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: who joins me on set. Let's start with the basics, 13 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: the fiscal third quarter forecast and we learned through it. 14 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that forecast was fine. If you compare it to consensus, 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: it was there or thereabouts. And for most of the 16 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: companies in the world, that would be great and everybody 17 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 4: would be happy. But this is in video. This is 18 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 4: a company which you know, beats pretty much every quarter 19 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 4: and by an order of magnitude, and it didn't do that, 20 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 4: and it didn't indicate it would do that, and that 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 4: raised a lot of questions. As we heard on the. 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: Call, there are many storylines. I think the demand from 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 3: the hyperscalers is clearly intact, but Blackwell was everything. I 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 3: want to play a SoundBite of what Jensen Wong said 25 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 3: about Blackwell. Listened to this. 26 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: The change to the mask is complete. There were no 27 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: functional changes necessary, and so we're sampling functional samples of 28 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: Blackwell Grace Blackwell in a variety of system configurations as 29 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: we speak. 30 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: The main point here is that there was not a 31 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: design issue with Blackwell itself as had been reported, but 32 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: based on what Nvidia said, this was about the production mechanism. 33 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: Blue Bazine King, you did a very good job in 34 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: the top Life blog of explaining a GPU mask. Could 35 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: you just try to give a short version of that 36 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: to our audience. 37 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, the mask is basically the blueprint, which basically that 38 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: is used to burn in the circuit onto the surface 39 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 4: of the chip to give it its function, right, and 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 4: it is a very important step. That's the fundamental blueprint. 41 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 4: And they were saying we didn't get it wrong, but 42 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 4: when it came to manufacturing, it didn't produce as many 43 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 4: good chips as we wanted, so we made some tweaks 44 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 4: to that. Didn't have to redesign it, but made some tweaks, 45 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 4: and that is helping us to get a better yield. 46 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: It's worth noting at this stage the stocks down almost 47 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 3: seven percent in after hours, have been down more at 48 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: the conclusion of the call. I think basically because we 49 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: didn't learn enough about Blackwell. What they said was in 50 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: the fiscal fourth quarter of fiscal year twenty five, there 51 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: will be several billion dollars of sales through Blackwell. Why 52 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: does the market want more and what does it want? 53 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 4: They wanted a reassurance from in videos management, and they 54 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: wanted reassurance in the form of details. They wanted gens 55 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 4: to PuTTY's arm around everybody and say, don't worry, It'll 56 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: be fine. This is how much I'm going to get. 57 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 4: They asked consistently, We're asked questions of how many billions 58 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 4: and when will those billions exactly come in and collect. Kretz, 59 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 4: the CFO and Jensen Wang essentially avoided that question and 60 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: refuse to give that precise reassurance. 61 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: We're showing some of the after ours reaction, not just 62 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 3: in in video itself, but some of its peers, both 63 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: on the chip making side the server equipment providers, and 64 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: I think AMD and ARM in particular are very noteworthy. 65 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: Bloombogty and King stay with us. I want to go 66 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: out to Chicago and Bloomberg's Ryan for Lostelka on I 67 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: Equities team and Ryan. That's the broad summary from me 68 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: about the names moving and after hours there's probably a 69 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: bigger picture after ours movement in the markets as well, 70 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 3: start with in video and work outward from there. 71 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 5: Sure, well, one thing I would say about in videos 72 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 5: after hours decline is that it does come after a 73 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 5: very strong year to day performance. I think it closed 74 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 5: up more than one hundred and fifty percent this year, 75 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 5: So even though the re forecast was maybe a little 76 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 5: bit shy of some of the most optimistic expectations, it 77 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 5: did beat expectations. And it is, you know, coming off 78 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 5: such a huge gain. So it's not necessarily surprising to 79 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 5: see a little bit of a consolidation now. And I 80 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 5: think even the declient is a little bit less and 81 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 5: the options market was anticipating. So just some context there 82 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 5: for looking at the declient. But you're right that pretty 83 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 5: much we are seeing widespread weakness following this report, all 84 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 5: the megacaps are, you know, modestly lower. We are seeing 85 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 5: much more pronounced weakness in other chip makers and chip 86 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 5: design companies and so forth. So yeah, certainly it does 87 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 5: seem like the initial read through here is negative, but 88 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 5: again it does come after a very strong start to 89 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 5: the year. 90 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: We made a big deal about this earnings print for 91 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: quite a long time. I look at something like an 92 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: investco QQQ, the ETF that tracks the nast that one hundred, 93 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 3: and I think it's down around a percentage point, right, 94 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: But in true in the market's reaction, was this the 95 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 3: macro level event that we thought it was going to be. 96 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 5: That's a great question. I would say that it's kind 97 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 5: of close enough in line with expectations, even if it 98 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 5: is a little bit shy the most optimistic ones that 99 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 5: I don't think this is going to really cause people 100 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 5: to really change how they're allocating, change their opinions on 101 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 5: AI's as kind of fundamental secular driver. But maybe in 102 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 5: the near term we do see a little bit of weakness. 103 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 5: I mean, again, some of these stocks have been moving 104 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 5: up so much there have been sort of kind of 105 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 5: growing calls about their valuation. Some concerns about that. I 106 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 5: don't know if this is the kind of absolute blowout 107 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 5: that will just you know, cause people to continue piling 108 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 5: into the the way that they were doing earlier this year. 109 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: There is a lot in the news cycle inclusive of 110 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: and outside of video. I think one of the names 111 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: that you note in after ours is super Micro. It's 112 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: down significantly. There's an video relationship to that, and then 113 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 3: there's the news around that name in and of itself. 114 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely so. We saw yesterday a short report came 115 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 5: out Today's delaying the filing of the tin K. You know, 116 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 5: both of those cars does a weakness in the stock. 117 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 5: I think today it was down more than double digits, 118 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 5: So you know, a lot of reasons to be concerned 119 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 5: there in general. And it is one of Nvidia's biggest customers. 120 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 5: I think it's the third largest, So you know, this 121 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 5: is just another reason for people who might have been 122 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 5: kind of souring on super Micro to you know, maybe 123 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 5: be pulling the cell button. 124 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: A little bit. 125 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 3: Bloomdo's Ryan for Selica with the after hours action out 126 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: of Chicago. Thank you. Let's get the reaction from the 127 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 3: cell side with one of the stocks, relative bears d 128 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: A Davidson's Gil Luria had a neutral rating and a 129 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: street low ninety dollars price target on shares of Nvidia. 130 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: He joins US now and Gil, I guess does that 131 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: change your barished perspective on the stock and your main 132 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 3: takeaway from the analyst school, the quarter was. 133 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: A very good quarter there. Ability to continue to grow 134 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: delivering chips at this rate at this scale is fantastic 135 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: and unprecedented. I don't think there's much of a revenue 136 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: issue here, of a growth issue here. I think a 137 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: little bit of a pushback is probably more around the 138 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: margin situation. You had a good conversation with Ian about 139 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: Blackwell and some of the moving pieces part of what's 140 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: happening with Blackwell. It's a new product, it's got a 141 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: few hitches along the way that put pressure on gross margins, 142 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: and then operating margins grew more than anticipated, so less 143 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: of the top line upside flowed to the bottom line. 144 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: And that's probably where investors are getting a little bit 145 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: more cautious than they were before, because in the last 146 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: several quarters, the huge upside to revenue flowed all the 147 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: way to the bottom line, creating huge upside there to 148 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: believe in and Nvidia right now is to believe twenty 149 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: twenty six calendar is going to be about two hundred 150 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: billion of revenue and about four and a half to 151 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: five dollars of earnings. That's only possible if they continue 152 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: to get this type of growth on the top line 153 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: and more leverage. And the second part of that equation 154 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: looks a little less certain right now. 155 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: Gil. When you said that two hundred billion dollar figure, 156 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: Bloombergsy and King, who's covered semi conductors at this company 157 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: since nineteen ninety eight, sat next to me still, for 158 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: what it's worth, gave a little smile. I mean, it's 159 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: an astonishing figure. I think there's a lot of emphasis 160 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: here on Blackwell. How did you react to the news 161 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: of several billion dollars in fiscal fourth with Blackwell and 162 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: the explanation that this was a production issue impacting the ramp, 163 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: not a sort of core design issue around the product itself. 164 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: So, first of all, our estimate is far less than 165 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: two hundred billion for twenty twenty six. 166 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: But that's you're a relative bear, Gill and I got 167 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: that bit right. 168 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: I think in terms of Blackwell, what happened to in 169 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: n videos they used to be on a two year 170 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: cycle for the data center product, and they decided to 171 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: aggressively move to a one year cycle and then put 172 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: a lot of new feature functionality and bundle into the 173 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: Blackwell platform. So that was a very aggressive agenda, and 174 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: it's not that surprising that there's some challenges that they 175 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: have to encounter. If they can still ship in their 176 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: fiscal fourth quarter, that's a very good sign. And by 177 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: the way, their customers don't really care that much. Their 178 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: customers are just going to continue to buy the latest 179 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: and greatest, and if that's the Age two hundred, they'll 180 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: just continue to buy h two hundred. They have made 181 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: that abundantly clear on their conference calls, Microsoft, Meta, Amazon, Google, Tesla. 182 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: Elon Musk made it abundantly clear they'll buy as much 183 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: GPUs as and Video can produce, at least this year, 184 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: because they're saying the demand signals are there. As long 185 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: as the demand signals are there, they'll buy whatever and 186 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: Video is selling, and towards the end of the year, 187 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: a piece of that will be Blackwell. 188 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: Gil Jensen Wong was it pains and gave a detailed 189 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 3: answer that basically summarizing video as a systems vendor the 190 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: discussion around Envy link, CPUs, everything beyond GPU. How much 191 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: credit do you assign the company for that, the sort 192 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: of complete systems that they sell. 193 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: A tremendous amount of credit. Let's start with the beginning. 194 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: When history is written, we'll talk about how Jensen Wangen 195 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: Nvidia created the capabilities that make generative AI possible today 196 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: in a similar way that Elon Musk is responsible for 197 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: the electric vehicle. And part of the genius wasn't just 198 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: seeing that this is coming, that accelerate computers coming, AI 199 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: capabilities is coming well before anybody else did. It's also 200 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: realizing that in order to create a moat around the chip, 201 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: they need to do a couple of things. One is 202 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: to own the proprietary software around that KUDA, but the 203 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: other thing is to enhance the bundle as much as possible. 204 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: These GPUs work in a raise when they work together, 205 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: ten thousands or sometimes tens of thousands of GPUs together. 206 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: When you box those up in a box with multiple GPUs, CPUs, wiring, 207 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: cabling and firmware, you make it harder for your competitors 208 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: to catch. And they've done a remarkable job of that. 209 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: I also wonder about all the rest The story thus 210 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: far has been about the hyperscale is a meta five names, 211 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 3: essentially being the core customer of Nvidia. We got some 212 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: detail on low double digit billions sales this year in 213 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 3: sovereign AI. Do you see evidence that the market is 214 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,119 Speaker 3: broadening out beyond just the cloud providers? 215 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: Not really. It seems like those five are still a 216 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: substantial amount of the revenue. And those five have in 217 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: their most recent calls said some interesting things. One of 218 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: them is that they consistently said they are over investing. 219 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: So they said they definitely want to invest more. We're 220 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: seeing that in results today. But they also use the 221 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: term over investing. Over investing is something you do before 222 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: you do the other thing, and they made it clear 223 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: that they're only going to do so when they have 224 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: the demand signals. If for whatever reason, demand for AI 225 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: capacity goes down, for instance, because compute doesn't continue to 226 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: drive performance of foundational models, you're going to see those 227 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: same five actors pull back and say, you know, maybe 228 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: we have enough data center capacity, or maybe what we 229 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: have in the pipeline is enough. And that's the concern 230 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five and twenty six is that those 231 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: very companies could do that. Beyond that, these are the 232 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: same companies that are developing their own chips. They're at 233 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: various stages of this, but Google's TPUs are probably as 234 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: good as in videos, so in terms of their internal 235 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: use and selling to customers such as Apple, Google's already 236 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: caught up, Amazon's catching up, Meta and Microsoft are earlier stages. 237 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: But these same companies that are buying every GPU from 238 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: video they can gil will be the ones that will 239 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: buy possibly less next year in the year after that. 240 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 3: I just want to reflect for our TV and radio audience, 241 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: there are people tuned in around the world. My understanding 242 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: is there are watch parties in cities from New York 243 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: to London. For this earnings. We've hyped it up for weeks. 244 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: Probably this is the most unique earnings print that I've 245 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: covered in my career. What about for you in the 246 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: semiconductor space, Why is this so different? 247 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: Well, so, first of all, I tried to participate by 248 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: wearing a video green today. But importantly and video is 249 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: important because of how much they've added to the cumulative 250 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: earnings of this in P. Five hundred and the cumulative performance. 251 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't necessarily extrapolate their success or sometimes setbacks 252 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: to the rest of the market because what they do 253 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: is very specific. The growth and data center construction and 254 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: data center a GPU fulfillment into those data centers is 255 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: a very small set of companies. I'd argue, and Video 256 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: is sucking the oxygen for the room from a lot 257 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: of other technology companies. So we celebrate within Video because 258 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: they've added so much value I wouldn't necessarily read through 259 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: to the rest of technology. 260 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: Guillerya of DA Davidson, the relatively most bearish or perhaps 261 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: the least bullish name on the street. Thank you so 262 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: welcome to this special edition of Bloomberg Technology for our 263 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: TV and radio audience around the world. Joining me now 264 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: is Jensen One, CEO of Nvidia, straight from the analyst's call, 265 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: and Jensen, good evening, good afternoon to you. I think 266 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: the market wanted more on Blackwell, they wanted more specifics, 267 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: and I'm trying to go through all of the call 268 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: and the transcript. It seems like a very clearly this 269 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: was a production issue and not a fundamental design issue 270 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: with Blackwell, but the deployment in the real world, what 271 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: does that look like tangibly and is there a sort 272 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: of delay in the timeline of that deployment and thus 273 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: revenue from that product. 274 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 6: I let's see, that's just the fact that I was 275 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 6: so clear and it wasn't clear enough kind of tripped 276 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 6: me up there right away. And so let's see. We 277 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 6: we made a mass change to improve the yield. Functionality 278 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 6: of Blackwell is wonderful. We're sampling Blackwell all over the 279 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 6: world today. We show people giving tours to people of 280 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 6: the Blackwall systems that we have up and running. You 281 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 6: could find pictures of Blackwall systems all over the web. 282 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 6: We have started volume production. Volume production will ship in 283 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 6: Q four. Q four, we will have billions of dollars 284 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 6: of Blackwell revenues and we will ramp from there. We 285 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 6: will ramp from there. The demand for Blackwell far exceeds 286 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 6: its supply, of course in the beginning, because the demand 287 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 6: is so great, But we're going to have lots and 288 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 6: lots of supply and we will be able to ramp. 289 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 6: Starting in Q four, we have billions of dollars of 290 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 6: revenues and we will ramp from there into Q one 291 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 6: into Q two and two next year. We're going to 292 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 6: have a great next year. 293 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: Well, Jensen, what is the demand for accelerated computing beyond 294 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: the hyperscalers and meta. 295 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 6: Hyperscalers represent about forty five percent of our total data 296 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 6: center business. We're relatively diversified today. We have hyperscalers, we 297 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 6: have Internet service providers, we have sovereign AIS, we have 298 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 6: industries enterprises, so it's fairly fairly diversified. A site outside 299 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 6: of hyperscalers is the other fifty five percent. Now, the 300 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 6: application use across all of that, all of that data 301 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 6: center starts with accelerated computing. Accelerated computing does everything, of course, 302 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 6: from well the models the things that we know about, 303 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 6: which is generative AI, and that gets most of the attention. 304 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 6: But at the core we also do database processing, pre 305 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 6: and post processing of data before you use it for 306 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 6: generative AI, trans coding, scientific simulations, computer graphics of course, 307 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 6: image processing of course. And so there's tons of applications 308 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 6: that people use are accelerated computing for, and one of 309 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 6: them is generative AI. And so let's see what else 310 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 6: can I say? I think that's the. 311 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 3: Lever jump in Jensen please on Sovereign AI. You and 312 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 3: I've talked about that before, and it was so interesting 313 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: to hear something behind it that in this fiscal year 314 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 3: there will be low double digit I think you said 315 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 3: billions of dollars in sovereign AI sales. But to the 316 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 3: lay person, what does that mean. It means deals with 317 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 3: specific governments, if so, where. 318 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 6: It's not necessarily Sometimes it deals with a particular regional 319 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 6: service provider that's been funded by the government. And oftentimes 320 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 6: that's the case in a case of in the case 321 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 6: of Japan, for example, the the Japanese government came out 322 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 6: and UH offered UH subsidies of a couple of billion dollars. 323 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 6: I think for several different internet companies and telcos to 324 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 6: be able to fund their AI infrastructure. UH India has 325 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 6: a sovereign AI initiative going and they're building their AI infrastructure. Canada, 326 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 6: the UK, France, Italy, missing somebody, Singapore, Malaysia, UH. You know, 327 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 6: a large number of countries are subsidizing their regional data 328 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 6: centers so that they could become able to build out 329 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 6: their AI infrastructure. They recognize that their countries UH knowledge, 330 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 6: their countries data digital data is also their natural resource, 331 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 6: not just the land they're sitting on, not just the 332 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 6: air above them. But they realize now that their digital 333 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 6: knowledge is part of their natural and national resource, and 334 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 6: they are to harvest that and process that and transform 335 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 6: it into their national digital intelligence. And so this is 336 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 6: what we call sovereign AI. You could imagine almost every 337 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 6: single country in the world will eventually recognize this and 338 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 6: build out their AI infrastructure. 339 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 3: Jenson, you use the word resource, and that makes me 340 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: think about the energy requirements here. I think on the 341 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 3: cool you talk about how the next generation models will 342 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 3: have many orders of magnitude greater compute needs. But how 343 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 3: will the energy needs increase and what is the advantage 344 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 3: you feel in Vidia has in that sense, Well. 345 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 6: The most important thing that we do is increase the 346 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 6: performance of and increase the performance and efficiency of our 347 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 6: next generation. So Blackwell is many times more performance than 348 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 6: Hopper at the same level of power used. And so 349 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 6: that's energy efficiency, more performance with the same amount of 350 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 6: power or same performance at a lower power And that's 351 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 6: number one. And the second is using luca cooling. We 352 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 6: support air cool we support air cooling, we support liqual cooling, 353 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 6: but liqual cooling is a lot more energy efficient, and 354 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 6: so the combination of all of that you're going to 355 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 6: get a pretty large, pretty large step up. But the 356 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 6: important thing to also realize is that AI doesn't really 357 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 6: care where it goes to school, and so increasingly we're 358 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 6: going to see AI be trained somewhere else, have that 359 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 6: model come back and be used near the population, or 360 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 6: even running on your PC or your phone. And so 361 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 6: we're going to train large models. But the goal is 362 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 6: not to run the large models necessarily all the time. 363 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 6: You can, you can surely do that for some of 364 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 6: the premium services and the very high value AIS, but 365 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 6: it's very likely that these large models would then help 366 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 6: to train and teach smaller models, and what we'll end 367 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 6: up doing is have one large, few large models that 368 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 6: are able to train a whole bunch of small models, 369 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 6: and they run everywhere. 370 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: Jensen, you explain clearly that demand to build generative AI 371 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 3: product on models or even at the GPU level is 372 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: greater than current supply. In black Wealth's case in particular, 373 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 3: explain the supply dynamics to me for your products and 374 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 3: whether you see an improvement sequentially quarter on quarter or 375 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 3: at some point by the end of fiscal year into 376 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 3: next year. 377 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 6: Well, the fact that we're growing would suggest that our 378 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 6: supply is improving and our supply chain is quite large. 379 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 6: One of the largest supply chains in the world. We 380 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 6: have incredible partners and they're doing a great job supporting 381 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 6: us in our growth. As you know, we're one of 382 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 6: the fastest growing technology companies in history. None of that 383 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 6: would have been possible without very strong demand but also 384 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 6: very strong supply. We're expecting Q three to have more 385 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 6: supply than Q two, We're expecting Q four to have 386 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 6: more supply than Q three, and we're expecting Q one 387 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 6: to have more supply than Q four, And so I 388 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 6: think our supply, our supply condition going into next year 389 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 6: will be in will be a large improvement over this 390 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 6: last year with respect to demand. Blackwell is just such 391 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 6: a leap and there's several things that are happening, you know, 392 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 6: just the Foundation model makers themselves. The size of the 393 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 6: Foundation models are growing from hundreds of billions parameters to 394 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 6: trillions of parameters. They're also learning more languages. Instead of 395 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 6: just learning human language, they're learning the language of images 396 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 6: and sounds and videos, and they're even learning the language 397 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 6: of three D graphics. And whenever they are able to 398 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 6: learn these languages, they can understand what they see, but 399 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 6: they can also generate what they're asked to generate and 400 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 6: so they're learning the language of routines and chemicals and physics. 401 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 6: You know, it could be fluids and it could be 402 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 6: particle physics, and so they're learning all kinds of different languages, 403 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 6: learned the meaning of what we call modalities, but basically 404 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 6: learning languages. And so these models are growing in size, 405 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 6: they're learning from more data, and there are more model 406 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 6: makers then there was a year ago. And so the 407 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 6: number of model makers have grown substantially because of all 408 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 6: these different modalities. And so that's just one, just the 409 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 6: frontier model. The foundation model makers themselves haven't really grown tremendously. 410 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 6: And then the generative AI market has really diversified, you know, 411 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 6: beyond the Internet service makers to startups and now enterprises 412 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 6: are jumping in and different countries are jumping in, so 413 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 6: the demand is really growing. 414 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 3: Jensen, I'm sorry to cut you off. I will lose 415 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: your time soon. You've also diversified. And when I said 416 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 3: to our audience you were coming on, I got so 417 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: many questions. Probably the most common one is what is 418 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: in Vidia. We talked about you as a systems vendor, 419 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: but so many points on in Vidia Gpu Cloud, and 420 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: I want to ask finally, do you have plans to 421 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 3: become literally a cloud compute provider. 422 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 6: No. Our GPU cloud was designed to be the best 423 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 6: version of Nvidia Cloud that's built within each cloud. Nvidio 424 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 6: DGX cloud is built inside GCP, inside Azure, inside AWS, 425 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 6: inside OCI, and so we build our clouds within THEIRS 426 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 6: so that we can implement our best version of our cloud, 427 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 6: work with them to make that cloud, that that infrastructure, 428 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 6: that AI infrastructure in Nvidia infrastructure, as performance, as great 429 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 6: TCO as possible, and so that strategy has worked incredibly well. 430 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 6: And of course we are large consumers of it because 431 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 6: we create a lot of AI ourselves, because our chips 432 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 6: aren't possible to design without AI, our software is not 433 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 6: possible to write without AI, and so we use it 434 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 6: ourselves tremendous, you know, tremendous amount of it self driving cars, 435 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 6: the general robotics work that we're doing, the omniverse work 436 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 6: that we're doing. So we're using the DGX cloud for ourselves. 437 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 6: We also use it for an AI foundry. We make 438 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 6: AI models for companies that would like to have expertise 439 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 6: in doing so, and so we are AI. We're an AI, 440 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 6: we're a foundry for AI. Like tsmcs a foundry for 441 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 6: our chips and so so there are three fundamental reasons 442 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 6: why we do it. One is to have the best 443 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 6: version of Nvidia inside all the clouds. Two because we're 444 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 6: a large consumer to ourselves, and third because we use 445 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 6: it for AI foundry for to help every other company. 446 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 3: Jensen one, CEO and video. I want to thank you 447 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 3: for your time the extended conversation straight off the earnings 448 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 3: called thank you in earnings fiscal it's good to see 449 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 3: you too called second quarter. Then I point out that 450 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: in after hours the stock is down still almost seven percent. 451 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 3: There'll be a lot of analysis to be done overnight 452 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: by the cell side, by the byside, and we'll bring 453 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: you the best from Bloomberg's reporters and editors from San Francisco. 454 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Technology