1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up 2 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: straight Fire, Fam, It's me Jason McEntire. Straight Fire were Thursday, 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: September twenty three. We got Thursday Night football, a mediocre 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: at best game Carolina and Houston's used it with the 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. We'll get into the game with today's guest. 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Drumroll please, Michael Lombardi. You remember him. He's worked with 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: me at FS one. He was with the Patriots in 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: the front office. Um I I ribbed him a little 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: bit in our interview when I mentioned that, Yeah, I 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: remember you were FS one. Would be in a meeting 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: room talking about the show and you'd be like, hold on, 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: turn into the corner. I got a FaceTime Josh McDaniels 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: real quick. A little flex from Lombardi. He's he's really 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: plugged in in the league. He had some good stuff 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: on the games for Week three. I think you guys 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: will like it. But first, a couple of stories. Listen, 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: there are some NBA stories popping. I just it's tough 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: for me to get out of the NFL college football 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: mindset this early in the season and pivot to NBA 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: when it's not even I don't even think training camp started. 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the Ben Simmons story is huge, but like 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: there's really no traction. Uh. The Zion story that dropped 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: on NOLA dot com really uh beginnings of a takedown 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: of David Griffin, who, you guys know, I've never been 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: a huge fan of the GM there does not have 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: a relationship with Zion. Um, that's an interesting story. And 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: then of course the guy in the Timberwolves front office 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: who gets axed ultimately because he got busted cheating on 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 1: his wife with some secretary and somebody I'm gonna mentioned 30 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: the person who sent me photos I don't know if 31 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: they're from a news report or Twitter or what of 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: this guy in the front office GM with this leggy 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: brunette like making out. I'm like, what is this real? 34 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Is like out the open? This guy's a moron? Is 35 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: when he gets fired. Um, And you know, so good 36 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: NBA stories are happening, But it's just tough for me 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: to get out of the NFL mindset. Like the NFL 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: right now is so hot, you guys know, I'm not 39 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: so hot. In the four million dollar contest started five 40 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: and five, So literally every day I'm spending hours looking 41 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: at injury reports, reading beat writers, looking at line movement, 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: trying to anticipate where the line is gonna go and why. Uh. 43 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: The injuries are incredible right now in the NFL. I mean, 44 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go through all of them right now, 45 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: because we do touch on it with Lombardi. But it's 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: tough for me to pick a side on Colts Titans 47 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: not knowing the status of Carson Wentz. It's tough for 48 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: me to dive deep on Raiders Dolphins, not knowing the 49 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: situation with Derek Carr. We do know know that to 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: A is out with Uh. I don't know it's bruised 51 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: or broken ribs, but he's out. That being said, I'm 52 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: going to text chain with some guys from Fox. Uh 53 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: from the gambling team over at Fox, and I was like, listen, guys, 54 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it's that big of a downgrade from 55 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: two to Jacoby Brissette when you get a week to 56 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: build in the game plan. Now, last week, Brisette look 57 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: terrible against Buffalo. Guess what two has taken all the 58 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: first team reps in practice. Prissette has to come in cold, 59 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: offensive line already shell shocked. They had no chance. Uh, 60 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: it was a disaster for Miami. I think they will 61 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: be stronger this week. I'm leaning towards taking them against 62 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: Vegas getting forward lines coming down. But again the injury 63 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: situation justin fields we now know is declared the starter. 64 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: Um Taylor Heineke first road start in the NFL. Like 65 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: there's just so much happening. Ben Roethlisberger and this Peck injury. 66 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: It continues to be huge. Like, I mean, I don't know, 67 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: can you take Pittsburgh to win if Ben Roethlisberg is 68 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: not starting in Mason? Uh, what's I was gonna say, 69 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: Mason plum Lee, one of the Plumble brothers. Um, I 70 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: think it's not. It's not Duck Hodges, it's um. Oh 71 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm an idiot for spacing on the guy's name. 72 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: Now I have to look it up because I know 73 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: you guys are yelling right now. Oh it's Mason. We 74 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: know who he is. Uh, And I'm sorry, I have 75 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: to look at it because it's on the tip of 76 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: my tongue and I can't get it. But I would 77 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: say there is a huge downgrade there. It is Mason Rudolph, 78 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: the former Oklahoma state quarterback. Um, I can't imagine it 79 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: would be Haskins, but seriously, like that's not ideal. And 80 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: by the way, quietly, quietly, Bengals defense kind of shut 81 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: down Joe Mixon and really bottled up um Justin Fields 82 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: and Nandy Dalton last week. And then now they go 83 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: against the Steelers offensive line down with four new guys. 84 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: They started two rookies last week. Uh, and you know again, 85 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: you gotta look at this t J. Watt situation. There's 86 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: just so much happening in the league. I did make 87 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: a couple of bets earlier this week. I think I 88 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: touched on him on maybe the podcast before rovel. By 89 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: the way, shout out to the guys who did like 90 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: the Darren Ravell interview. Um, got a lot of compliments 91 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: for that. Listen, Ravelle keeps it real. Um. Yeah, a 92 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: lot of people don't like him. I don't care. Why 93 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: would I care. I like him. To me, he's interesting. Um. 94 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: When I cracked into this TV business, when I moved 95 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 1: out here, Cowherd told me one one piece of advice. Um, 96 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: it's not about right, it's not about wrong. It's about 97 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: being interesting. And if you can keep it interesting, they'll 98 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: keep coming back. You're gotta be right. Sometimes you're gonna 99 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: be wrong. Sometimes that's just how sports are. It's unpredictable. 100 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: Why do you think gambling on sports? The house wins more. 101 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 1: And it's if you win like six of your bets, 102 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: you're considered successful. You know, like you're gonna be right, 103 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna be wrong, but be interesting, be compelling, and 104 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: that will keep them coming back. On a side note, 105 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: before we get to the Michael Bardi interview, your boy 106 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: returned to the basketball court triumphantly after uh two weeks. 107 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: Well you know, I got the eye injury, got an 108 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: elbow and the kisser, well not the kisser, the eye, um, 109 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: blood everywhere, six stitches. My wife wisely recommended a plastic surgeon, 110 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: so he avoided the e er. And I got the 111 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: stitches out. I think Monday, yeah, Monday or Tuesday, probably Monday. 112 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: And I ordered a mask off Amazon. You go on Amazon, 113 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: it's like the fifty mask. And I got it and 114 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: I tried it on. I was like, who is rough? 115 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: And then I went out to play basketball Wednesday, regular crew, 116 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: I warm up, no mask, feel and find them like, 117 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: let me just put the mask on. I put it 118 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: on and the guy started calling me rip Hamilton's and 119 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: I'll just tell you right now, it felt awkward a 120 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: f um first play of the game. My guy who 121 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: I was guarding, Rob I know him well, Lefty, good player, 122 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: solid player, but for whatever reason, I know his tendencies 123 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: well and I'm able to defend him better than a 124 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: lot of guys humble brag. And he just takes me easily, 125 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: and I'm just with the mask, like the vision is 126 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: a little distorted, you know, and like it just felt weird. 127 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: He beat me eat for an easy bucket and I 128 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: found him and I was like, cheeze, So we come down. 129 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I gotta rip the band aid off. 130 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: I get the ball instant shot, don't even hit the rim. 131 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,559 Speaker 1: I think it hit like the backboard and maybe graze 132 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: the rim. I was like, oh, I felt weird. Uh. 133 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: Two possessions later, I get the ball again. I'm like, 134 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: I gotta get up another shot. This isn't not a 135 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: three and inside the arc and again miss everything. I 136 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: come down the court, I said, hold up, guys, I 137 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: took the mask off. I said this this is not 138 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: gonna work. It's just not gonna work. I'm just gonna 139 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: have to plow through it. Um, And wouldn't you know 140 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: what the next game I hit, I think three threes 141 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: and four possessions that we won. Um. But it's just 142 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: weird playing with a mask. I don't know how these 143 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: NBA guys do it. I mean, obviously they're wearing a 144 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: high end mask. UM. I don't know if any of 145 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: you guys have had to wear a mask due to 146 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: an injury. UM, But it just felt awkward. I couldn't 147 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: go back to it. Um. I'm probably gonna I got 148 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: a soccer tournament coming up, and I'll definitely have to 149 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: wear the mask for that. I mean, it's totally different 150 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: than basketball because the shot, you know, your arms are 151 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: coming up in like your face area. Um. And in 152 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: soccer it's all legs and and and speed. Uh So 153 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: I should be able to be wear the mask for that. 154 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: But I thought you guys would want just a little 155 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: snapshot into the life of Jason mcintar. Al Right, without 156 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: further ado, let's get to him. Oh by the way, 157 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the podcast, I'll give you my 158 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: best bet for Thursday night football. But let's get to 159 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: him now. Michael Lombard a visa. Jason likes to think 160 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports. I know 161 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: what sports fans want, but for everything he doesn't. He 162 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: knows a guy who does. Let's just say I know 163 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy. 164 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome into straight fire. A guy. I 165 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: knew this guy four years ago. He came by, he 166 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: was in l A. He was on f S when 167 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: we did some shows together. And you know, Mike, you 168 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: can confirm this if you want. I think we were 169 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: doing some of the earlier gambling segments regarding the NFL 170 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: on TV before anybody for NFL Network, for ESPN, Mike Lombardi, 171 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: he's a visa. Now, how are you man? I'm doing great. Yeah. 172 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: I think, uh, pretty soon everybody's going to have to 173 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: do it. I mean it's the only way people want 174 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: to hear about the betting and how to get some 175 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: information on the games. I think that's kind of It's 176 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: changed tremendously on on the emphasis of the games and 177 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: what people are looking for. And I mean I'm in 178 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: Jersey and and they're they're setting records every week on 179 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: how much money is being Yeah, we had Darren Ravell 180 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: on and he was saying that Basically, Jersey is the 181 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: new Vegas in terms of sports gambling. It is just 182 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: out there. I mean, I guess my question for you, 183 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: you're one of the few guys in gambling who actually 184 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: worked in the front office. Um, having spent a lot 185 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: of time with the Patriots, and I remember when you 186 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: were at Fox. You know, we would be in like 187 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: a meeting meeting room, and you know you'd be like 188 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: face timing Josh McDaniels in the corner. Uh. There's not 189 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: a lot of guys in the gambling space who could 190 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: do that. How often? Uh, you know, do you still 191 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: keep in touch with your contacts around the league? I mean, uh, 192 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: I don't care. You know, it's funny. I don't gamble. 193 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: I mean what I do for Visa is kind of 194 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: what I did in the league. I watched tape, I 195 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: studied teams. I break down the opponents. You know, the 196 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys are playing the Eagles. I watched the Cowboys. I 197 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: watched the Eagles, you know, and I see kind of 198 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: the strengths of weaknesses of both teams. And literally, I 199 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: can honestly say I've never made a bet. Jason. I'll 200 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: give out advice. I put it up on Twitter. I 201 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: like this game that game, but I don't bet. I 202 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: have no desire to bet. You know, I want people 203 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: to do good based on my recommendations. But the pride 204 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: that I get into it is from when I was 205 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: in the league. You know, that's what I did for 206 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: a living. I handicapped teams. That's what every pro person 207 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: all director does in the National Football League, They handicapped teams. 208 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: So let's start with a lay up here. Okay, so 209 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: Carolina Houston. They're playing Thursday Night Football, but Houston starting 210 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: the kid out of Stanford Mills. He was a highly 211 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: touted recruit, but there's almost no NFL tape on him. 212 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: He played what a half last week, just tossed into 213 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: the fire for Tyrod Taylor. The line has gone up 214 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Carolina favored by eight. You know, I will say Carolina 215 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: has faced basically two of the weaker quarterbacks in the 216 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: league in the Mormon Mahomes and Jameis Winston. And you know, 217 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: this defense is pretty nasty. I like them a lot here, 218 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: but there are some numbers that suggest, hey, there's not 219 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: enough tape on Mills. He's gonna be able to surprise 220 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: the Panthers here. What are your thoughts on this one. Well, 221 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's tape on Mills. He played the preseason, 222 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: so you know that the Pathers can go back and 223 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: watch him. But I think the strength of the Panthers 224 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: is their defensive front. You know, they really the reason 225 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks haven't played well against him is because they 226 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: have done a great job of dominating the front, you know, 227 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: and and it's come from different guys. Derek Brown, Morgan Fox, 228 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, all the players that they have inside that 229 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: they have really done a good job of being fast, 230 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: athletic and they and they've created havoc defensively for for 231 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: their opponents. So you know, this is gonna be a 232 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: tough game for Houston in that sense. Now, Houston last year, 233 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: last week, Tumsil got hurt for a little bit of 234 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: the time in the Browns game, and they brought him 235 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: back in. But Davis Mills wasn't really ready to play. 236 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he probably didn't take enough reps. He's tried. 237 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: Not gonna get enough reps this week, you know, So 238 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of challenging. But Houston has some skill players. 239 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they still have Brandon Cooks, they got Philip Lindsay, 240 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: They got mark Ingram, you know, and their offensive line 241 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: is probably the better offensive line than they've had in 242 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: Houston for the last three or four years. So, you know, 243 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: eight and a half a lot of points to lay 244 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: on the road. I think the key is that can't 245 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: turn the ball over. Houston's defense is fast, it's athletic, 246 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: it's not very big, and they got to do a 247 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: good job of really taking advantage of of what they 248 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: can do offensively. I think Sam Donald, you know, has 249 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: really played within himself and hasn't tried to do things 250 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: like he did with the Jets and makes stupid plays. 251 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: I think he's done a really good job with that. 252 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: It's weird that Texans were projected to be the worst 253 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: or one of the worst teams in the league, yet 254 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: here they are too and O against his breadority. And frankly, 255 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: this could just be a thing where the markets saying, hey, 256 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, Houston stinks. Yeah, we get that nobody's betting them, 257 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: but guess what, this team has a bunch of pros. 258 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: I think they sounded like twenty seven veterans in the 259 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: off season. Um so, so they're not going to just 260 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: roll over and get crushed here. But eights feels still 261 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: a little large for Sam Donald to be laying on 262 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: the road. Well, I mean, look, you know, I said 263 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: this all summer. I've said it on my podcast and 264 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: I've said it on Vista. I mean, Houston was never 265 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: There's no reason Jackson should have been favored when they 266 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: went in there. I mean, who is Jackson will be 267 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: favorite over anybody, you know, and based on what they 268 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: look like in the preseason, Houston's got NFL caliber players. 269 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: There's no doubt. And so you know, for me, uh, 270 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, I think that this is obviously Thursday nights 271 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: are always hard games to play with a rookie quarterback, 272 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: a guy doesn't have a lot of reps. I think 273 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: it's even harder. And I think the way Carolina is 274 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: playing defense and the way they were attacking the quarterback, 275 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna make it hard on David s Mills. But 276 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: David s Mills, if he doesn't sustain the injuries in 277 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: Stanford and in high school and then in college, he 278 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: would have probably been an earlier draftic than the third round. Yeah, 279 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: very down to kids. I want to look to Sunday, Uh, Mike, 280 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: there's two two and oh teams against oh and two teams, 281 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: and these are always fishy. Some of the trend lines, 282 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can pay attention to those, 283 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: but some of the trends say, you've got to take 284 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: the O and two team in Week three against the 285 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: two and oh team and lo and behold, we've got 286 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: Arizona with m VP candidate Kyler Murray. In Jacksonville was 287 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: seven and a half. Uh, there's some Jacksonville money showing 288 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: in the market is down to seven. And then of 289 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: course my Jets huge underdogs in Denver, but also there's 290 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: been Jets money. It was eleven and a half, it's 291 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: now down to ten. Um Again, I'm not asking you 292 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: to give advice to gamblers here, but it's really tough 293 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: to tell people Yemen gotta love Jacksonville here, or yeah, 294 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: I give a lean to the Jets, Like, I don't 295 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: know how you can do that. Well, I mean, I 296 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: think you have to break the game down in a 297 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: way that we're uh. You know, look, I think the 298 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: Jets going out to going out to Denver, uh and 299 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: facing Vic Fangio's defense. I mean, we saw what Belichick 300 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: did too to to the young quarterback, and I think 301 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a challenge that Vic Fangio's defense is different. 302 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: It's hard to prepare for and it's hard to prepare 303 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: for a short week. And the Jets really don't have 304 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: any strengths. I mean, they're their offensive line is really struggling, 305 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: and they don't play They didn't play crowd or MEM's 306 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: last week for reasons. I don't know. I just didn't. 307 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: I said this on my pot. I didn't think the 308 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: Jets were really finally tuned offensively, and I think it's 309 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: gonna take some time for them to get going. And 310 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: and Denver really, even though they won twenty to seven 311 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: last week against Jacksonville, they did not play well. They 312 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: did not play well offensively. They had too many negative plays. 313 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: Jacksonville just couldn't get anything going offensively. They struggled with 314 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: the Fangio scheme. Trevor Lawrence struggled with this, with the 315 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: with the scheme. He was having a hard time. So, 316 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a lot of points. But Denver playing 317 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: at home in their home opener in altitude, with crowd 318 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: back in there, I think Denver wins. That's a lot 319 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: of points. Stuff. Yeah, uh, let's drill down on the 320 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: Jets real quick. Um, you know, you know, you got 321 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: a new coach in there, and he's got holdovers and Mimms, 322 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: who was you know, drafted a couple of years ago, 323 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: uh last year, sorry, and he just has never been 324 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: healthy Crowder, you know again another holdover. You just wonder 325 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: from your experiences, Mike in that in front offices, like 326 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: what happens when a new coach comes in. Is there 327 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: kind of a stink on the old guys that Hey, 328 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: you know what the last guys stun as a head 329 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: coach he got fired. Maybe you guys think too or 330 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: is that too strong? Well? I think it's too strong, 331 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: especially since the GM picked the coach and the GM 332 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: picked the players. I mean, he that was his draft. 333 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: I mean you go back to his drafts. I mean 334 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: they represent his trap. Joe Douglas said, it has a 335 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: tremendous reputation of being an astute personnel evaluator. And you 336 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: know he picked Mims at the top of the second round. 337 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: So you know, this isn't one of those where you say, 338 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: oh gosh, but I think you know, Mims has gotta 339 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: earn his way on the team and they've got to 340 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: give him an opportunity. Yeah, he's been hurt, but he's 341 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: made a lot of plays. I mean, I think he's 342 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: had I mean I saw a staff the other day. 343 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: In terms of what he's done compared to some other 344 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: young receivers in the same age, it's pretty impressive. And 345 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: Crowd has always been a guy that gives trouble, especially 346 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: when you're playing a team like Denver, who has really 347 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: good corners. I mean these corners for Denver's certain you know, 348 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: Darby's hurt, but then they have Rice Callahan and then 349 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: they play they play fuller. I mean, this is a 350 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: really good group. And then you know they're gonna be 351 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: gonna play man the man against you. It's gonna be 352 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: hard to make these tight window throws. So you know, 353 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,239 Speaker 1: I think, look, you don't have enough time in the 354 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: NFL to say just bring me new players because the 355 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 1: old players I don't want. You're gonna get fired if 356 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: you do that. Yeah, I just wonder how what's a 357 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: reasonable timetable for Jets fans to be like, hey, we 358 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: can push five d if this season it feels like 359 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: that's a massive uphill climb, is next season reasonable? Well, 360 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: I think it's all gonna come down to how the 361 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: draft works out. Right. I mean, it's all going to 362 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: come out to can they rebuild this offensive line? Is 363 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: is bad. I mean last week they got exposed again. 364 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna have a hard time in Denver. 365 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: Until they fix that offensive line, it's not gonna go anywhere. 366 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: And Beckton, you're talking about a guy who's been hurt 367 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: quite a bit. He's been hurt quite a bit and 368 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: he's out, you know, And and and Tucker is a 369 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: good player at left guard, but you know he has 370 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: to play too. He's a rookies young player. And defensively, 371 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, their defensive front place hard and they're very athletic, 372 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: and they moved, but at some point, you know, they've 373 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: got to be able to win man to man. I mean, 374 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: they played probably better than I suspected they would, but 375 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: at some point it's gonna wear down on you, whether 376 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: it's at the offense. Fox Sports Radio has the best 377 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 378 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the 379 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 380 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: Probably the most surprising unit in the league, the Kansas 381 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: City Chiefs. The Football Outsiders said that they are historically 382 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: bad through two weeks. I know, it's only two weeks, 383 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: you know, and they did face a good Browns offense 384 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: and then uh, Lamar Jackson. But Mike, what do you 385 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: see on film with the Chiefs? Is it fixable or 386 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: is this defense just a total train wren? So it's 387 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: been really bad. I mean, they don't play off blocks, 388 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: they can't stop the run, they're out of alignment, that 389 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: they have miscommunications all over. I thought week one it 390 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: was because math I wasn't in the game, but you know, 391 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: when he came back last week, they had the same problems. 392 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: A touchdown running from twenty yards. I mean, you and 393 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: I could have read it in. It was so wide open, 394 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: it was ridiculous. And so, uh, you know, I think 395 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: it's been really This has always been the case with Canson, 396 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: especially earlier in the year, and Spagnola's defense. They take 397 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: a lot of chances. They're constantly trying just to make 398 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: a play a drop series. They're always trying to make 399 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: a play a series. So you know, we want to 400 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: knock you in the second and fifteen second and twenty 401 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, first and fifth. You know, we've got to 402 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,239 Speaker 1: create a negative play. One negative play per drive will 403 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: knock you out of the drive. But they can't play 404 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: down after down after down. They make too many mistakes. 405 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: Their corners haven't been able to hold up. And the 406 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: defensive front, I mean they did not get any pass 407 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: rush against the backup offensive line for Baltimore last week, 408 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, and so that was really got to be discouraging. 409 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: And it's offensively, you know, teams are just gonna try 410 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: to take away Tyreek Hill. I mean, that's the key guy. 411 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: Toyman Kills the best receiver in all of football. It's 412 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: not even close. And when you take him away from them. 413 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: He had three catches for twelve yards last week. Kelsey 414 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: is gonna make his plays. But then who's Kenn teach you. 415 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the Ravens gave up twenty eight points on defense, 416 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: and I thought they played as well as you could play. 417 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: They gave up twenty eight and they played well. They 418 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: gave up a touch South past for thirty five. But 419 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: here's where the key to the game was. Jason didn't 420 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: they didn't score in the fourth quarter the Chiefs. How 421 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: the Chiefs were scoreless of the fourth um. I do wonder, 422 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: though the Chargers have been an offensive machine, this is 423 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: gonna give Kansas City problems. Problem is they just can't 424 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: finish in the in the red zone, turnovers, Uh, just 425 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: mistakes penalties. I mean, Mike, they did not punch against 426 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: Dallas and only ended up with seventeen points. That seems like, 427 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: how how does that happen? Well, it happened the week 428 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: before in Washington. They were two for six of the 429 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: red zone in Washington. I may this team moves them 430 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: all up and down the field, they can't seem to 431 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: getting in the end zone. I think they missed a 432 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: big back. I think decler is great. I think he's tremendous, 433 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: But I think they missed a big back. I think 434 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: they missed a physical back back there. I don't think 435 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 1: it's Justin Jackson. I don't think it's round three. I 436 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: think they missed a physical back. And I think that's 437 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: really a problem. I said on the podcast earlier this 438 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: week Mike that, Uh, if you told me I could 439 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: have any quarterback to start a franchise with who's in 440 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: the league currently in age matters after Mahomes would be 441 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. I don't know, is that too strong of 442 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: a statement. No, I mean, look, I think he's great, 443 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, and it's amazing. But he got picked in 444 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: front of he got picked too, He got picked in 445 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: from of him. I mean seriously, I mean, you know 446 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: I talked about two all the time. I mean, too 447 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: has no elite skills. You know, he has no elite 448 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: I mean, of all the four quarterbacks of the a 449 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: f C East two US right now, it looks like 450 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: the fourth best and limited sample on Zach Wilson. But yeah, 451 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: two was definitely Zach Wilson has got a much stronger arm. 452 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson could throw the ball from here. You know, 453 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: he looked. That offense isn't very good, It isn't very 454 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: well coordinated. There is nothing really good about that offense 455 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: right now. But that kids, I wouldn't be down on 456 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: that kid yet. That kid's got some real skill. It's 457 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: weird you just said, you know, Herbert got taken after two. Uh. 458 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes went, I think tenth overall. It's weird how 459 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: the guys who go first historically, I think in the 460 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: last ten or fifteen years, they have not exactly lit 461 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: the world on fire and been the best quarterback in 462 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: their class. Do you think that's mostly because the good 463 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are going to awful organizations with bad coaching, bad 464 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: offensive lines, etcetera. I think a lot of it is 465 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: outside perception. I mean, think about this all through the draft. 466 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: You know, all we heard about was how ridiculous it 467 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: would have been a trade up for mac Jones, how 468 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 1: he wasn't worked the third pick of the draft. Twitter 469 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: Twitter dominated that narrative. All right, mac Jones isn't good enough. 470 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: There's all the forty Nights only made that trade to 471 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: get trade laps. There's no way you should trade up together. 472 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: Justin Fields is better than mac Jones is by far 473 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: the best rookie quarterback, is by far the best rook 474 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: He didn't go and he didn't go to the playoff team. 475 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: You know, he went to a team and he's just 476 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: feeling his owns. They haven't really developed, they haven't been 477 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: able to really they haven't jailed as an offensive unit 478 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: yet up in New England. There to takes some time, 479 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: but I think there's so much perception tank for two 480 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: of them. Who wasn't tanking for Tua. You were on 481 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: that care everybody was on that campaign. Tank for two. 482 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: You gotta tank for twa, don't really? I mean, yeah, 483 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: that that was the thing that built at college when 484 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: he was so incredible at Alabama, and then the injuries happened, 485 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: and like, and I remember getting into it with Dan Orlovsky. 486 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: He's like, you gotta take two over Herbert. And by 487 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: that point I was all over Herbert. I was like, 488 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: no way, I'm going Herbert. And there was this weird 489 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: narrative Mike that built about, well, Herbert, look where he 490 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: grew up and then he played at Oregon, how's he 491 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: gonna handle leaving his comfort zone? And it was I 492 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: don't know, Mikey, you've been in the front office. That 493 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: stuff mostly is nonsense, right, It's all nonsense. I mean, look, 494 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: I think what hurt Herbert more than anything was the 495 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: Oregon offense. I think Marcus Royo that offense there was 496 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: horrendous and everybody was grading the offense. They weren't grading 497 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: the player and they were critiquing the offense and it 498 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: was poorly at orchestrated. And then you know, once he 499 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: got to the Senior Bowl, when he went down, the 500 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: senior were like, oh wow, wow, well I get it now, Okay, 501 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: I got it. Get there it is and that's what happened. 502 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: I think there's so many false narratives out there. It's 503 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: ridiculous and it's weird how they latch on too. I 504 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: want to look it back to Jimmy Gena sec. I 505 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: want to I want to ask another question with two 506 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: so he's hurt. Jacoby presents in this week. I would 507 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: not be surprised to Miami won that game out right. 508 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: I am curious where you are on the whole Deshaun 509 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: Watson thing. I know it's borderline impossible to trade for 510 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: him at this point, but we've had many guys on 511 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: this show come on and say, listen, it's down to Miami, 512 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: maybe Carolina or Philly for Deshaun Watson. Were you on 513 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: this whole Watson saga or do you just don't want 514 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: to get into it given his situation? You know, I 515 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: think it's how there's too many unknowns, right, You just 516 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: don't know what you're buying. You know. The one thing 517 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: is everything that you do in trading is risk reward. 518 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: How much risk are you willing to take? How much 519 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: reward are you gonna get? You know, and no one 520 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: knows he's got twenty two civil suits there. No one 521 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: knows what the outcome of those will be. He's got eight. 522 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: The District Attorney of Houston's looking into it, two of 523 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: which are not in the civil cases. So the civil 524 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: cases could go up to twenty four. You know, as 525 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: an organization to building a culture you're trying to develop, 526 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: you can't put them on the field. You don't have 527 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: enough information to really know. So you know, it's it's 528 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: hard to trade him. It's hard to clay him, you know. 529 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: And he he didn't you know, the fairness to the Texas. 530 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: He didn't create this time. They didn't create the narrative. 531 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: They wanted him on the team. He's the one who 532 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: raised the steak. I mean, he was on every ESPN show, 533 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: all his agent was advertising to get me out of there, 534 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, now it's quieted down because 535 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: of all the all the off the field instance. Yeah, 536 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: we could wrap up Mike with this. I want to 537 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: give you credit for being ahead of the curvel and 538 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: his Trey Lance mac Jones stuff. I think I listened 539 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: to your pod once when it was going on, and 540 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: I wrote, I tweeted out something that you said in 541 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: all these Niners fans freaked out. What is it? Why 542 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: are they so defensive of Shanahan? And Lynch, what do 543 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: you think is driving this? I truly believe you know, 544 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: and I wrote I reported this. I think I think 545 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: that that Shanahan really wanted mac Jones. I think he 546 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: was in Cobbo, he watched tape, he saw mac Jones. 547 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: He called John Lynch and said, we gotta get this guy. 548 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: He's even Adam Schefter reported that six months later that 549 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, but the Niner fans for some reason seen 550 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: mac Jones. I think mac Jones got destroyed by that 551 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: picture of him poking a star with no shirt on, 552 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: the chubby mantits and everything. Yeah yeah, I mean I 553 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: think that probably hurt him more than anything. But the 554 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: reality of it is is if you were if you 555 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: were to describe the perfect quarterback for cash and it 556 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: would be mac Jones. Yeah, how much more that mac 557 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: Jones is tearing it up through two weeks, is now 558 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: the favorite to win Rookie of the Year. I would 559 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: just say this. I would say this, all the people 560 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: in the organization, from the Fortyers who taught, who are 561 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: who are preaching Tree Last, are probably getting the evil 562 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: eye coming from from the Shanahan. I think Mike Shanahan, 563 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: even like Trey, like Uh, Mac Jones, what did he 564 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: do to a front office when there's this kind of divide? Well, 565 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: we all know yet on Trade Lands. I mean it's 566 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: it's not done. I mean he hasn't played yet. I 567 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: mean he's not ready to play. This whole narrative that 568 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: he's playing, This whole narrative that he's gonna play, is ridiculous. 569 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: I mean, any anybody who thought he was gonna play 570 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: this summer he was gonna start. I mean all on 571 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: Twitter he had him starting. If anybody watched the tape 572 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: of him playing in the preseason, you knew he wasn't 573 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: gonna start. That's why Garoppolo was so confident. Garoppolo the 574 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: couple was like looking at that, people like, are you crazy? 575 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: Like out a year, I know, I know who's going 576 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback. I'm not gonna say it, 577 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: but I know. I mean, come on, it's just it's 578 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: it's people that have no idea that are talking. They 579 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: have no clue. I wonder what happens if they go 580 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: thirteen and three get to the super Bowl. Does that 581 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: make any harder to dump Jimmy? No, They'll they'll just 582 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: ask a king's ransom for Jimmy G. I mean, they've 583 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: already been to the Super Bowl with Jimmy G. I 584 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: mean that's the thing that cracks me up. They want 585 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: to put Trey Lance in the game. They want to 586 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: the super Bowl with Jimmy J. I mean, Jimmy G 587 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: want to want to went to the Super Bowl's he 588 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: has a ten point leader the fourth quarter? Was it 589 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: Jimmy G's problem fault that on third and eighteen they 590 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: didn't cover Tyreek Hill? Was it Jimmy G's fault that 591 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: on on on third and ten they got a pass 592 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: interference penalty and the and the in the end zone? 593 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: Was it was that his fault? Was it his fault? 594 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: Was it his fault that Chris Jones got in his 595 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: face on a on a slant? You know, I mean, 596 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: like they didn't protect him. I just ended up. I mean, 597 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: I think I think Jimmy G has his own issues, 598 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: durability being one of them. But to to say put 599 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: him on the bench for a guy who's never played before, 600 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: it is ridiculous, especially when the quarterback led you to 601 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: a super Bowl. So so it almost sounds like you 602 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: think the Niners are in great position because I get 603 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: a ransom for Jimmy g at the end of the season, 604 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: maybe Pittsburgh jumps in and Trey Lance probably will work 605 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: fine because Shanahan's are defensive an offensive genius. I'm not 606 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: ready to go. I don't know what Trey Lance is 607 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: gonna do. I don't know. I have no idea. I 608 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: haven't seen it. I mean, based on what I saw 609 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: this preseason, that was one look and run. It was, 610 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, and he was throwing fastballs. You know, he 611 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: was just throwing heaters, you know, And until he learns 612 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: to take some thof the ball and throw some touch, 613 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: in which he will. He is Michael Lombardi visa in. 614 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: He's got a podcast with Adman vert called The GM Shuffle. Uh, Mike, 615 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: glad you're doing well Man, Stay safe out there in Jersey. 616 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, J appreciate it. Fox Sports Radio has the 617 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 618 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within 619 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app search f s R to 620 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: listen live. The only thing better than sitting on your 621 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: couch watching the games. He's making money while you do it. 622 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: Here's your best bat good stuff from Michael Lombardi and 623 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: Uh I tend to agree with him on the Niners. 624 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: I think, you know, if you ask me what his 625 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: best take is uh. And I don't know all of 626 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: his takes, but like you know, it's tough to cut 627 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: through sometimes so many people talking on so many topics. 628 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: I really like his uh forty Niners Kyle Shanahan take. 629 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: I think he should ride that to glory because this 630 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: is going to be a situation for the Niners. I 631 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: I just don't like where this is headed, especially if 632 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: they're really good. And I know you made the point that, yeah, 633 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: you can sell Jimmy g high. That's fine. Matt Jones 634 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: already looks good. The pressure will be on Trede Lance 635 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: to deliver. And if he's not delivering what Shanahan wa 636 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: and it's pretty clear that he's not close to ready, 637 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: maybe he ain't, Maybe he needs a year. Um. You know, 638 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: Shanahan's gonna resent the people in the in the organization 639 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: who talked him out of it. And I know the 640 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: forty fans, Oh, there was no talking out. No, guys, 641 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: I get it. You're a fan for a reason. I'm 642 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: gonna side with Lombardi on this one. All right, let's 643 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: get the best bets for Thursday Night Football. The fun 644 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: fact is that Prime Time overs this year six and 645 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: oh now, the total on this one is super low 646 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: forty three and the spread is huge seven and a half. 647 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: Usually that's a bad sign. There is a large disconnect 648 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: when you get a big spread like that on a 649 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: low total. You've got to gravitate towards the dog, right, 650 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: I mean Houston. We we've seen in the history, uh, 651 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: in recent years of UM quarterbacks where there's really no 652 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: film on Davis Mills. And you can say, yeah, what 653 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: about the preseason? Uh, I'm talking real live bullets. Preseason 654 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: hardly counts. Trey Lance look fine in the preseason at 655 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: times like come on, UM, I think my guess is 656 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: we will see some stuff from Davis Mills that the 657 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers are completely surprised by and it almost might 658 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: catch them flat footed. Um. I would say that there's 659 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: a chance that Houston's live in this one early. UM, 660 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't love a side here. I did tease Carolina down. 661 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: You know the teaser rules. You go through the seven 662 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: and the three, the two most key numbers in the NFL, 663 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: and now all they have to do is win, right, 664 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: So you get them at a half and then you 665 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: put in Cleveland, Arizona, Denver, whoever you want in that teaser. 666 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: So I like that if you're taking a flyer on 667 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: uh props for the game first touchdown, take a look 668 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: at what you can get Dan Arnold the tight end 669 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: for on the Carolina Panthers. I know it's the d J. 670 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: Moore Show, the Christian McCaffrey show. Maybe Robby Anderson gets 671 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: a deep one. But Dan Arnold, Um, you know, he 672 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,479 Speaker 1: he's a guy that I think can do damage against 673 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: a Texans team. Um that has not defended the tight end. Well, 674 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: the kid on O'Shaughnessy tore him apart in the opener, 675 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: and Cleveland didn't totally use tight ends much. But Baker 676 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: Mayfield was able to surprise Houston by going to guys 677 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: that you don't expect. Um, a gentleman by the name 678 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: of Anthony Schwartz, I'm not I'm sorry, not Anthony Shorts. 679 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: Dimitric Felton, who I'm not personally familiar with. Harrison bryant Um, 680 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: who is a tight end, had a solid game. He 681 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: had four targets. Austin Hooper had five targets. So of 682 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: the twenty one targets. Joke, you the tight end, Hooper 683 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: the tight end, and Bryant the tight end combined for 684 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: twelve of twenty one. Now you could say, well, Jay, 685 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: that had to do with Jarvis Landry being out. No 686 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham fair, that's fair, Donovan people Jones one target. Um, 687 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: but I think that you can you can sooner exploit 688 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: the tight ends on this deef end, then you can 689 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: on the outside. UM. I don't like this defense at all, UM, 690 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 1: but I would take a flyer on Dan Arnold first touchdown. UM. 691 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be surprised if Davis Mills tries a 692 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: deep one early two. Cooks, Brandon Cooks looks revigorated. UM. 693 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: In Houston. He as the guy who's had a million concussions. UM. 694 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: And you hope he remains healthy because when he is, 695 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: he's dynamic. This guy was a first round pick help 696 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: the Rams get to the Super Bowl. At least I'm 697 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: pretty sure I think he was on that Patriots team 698 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: that lost to the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Like, 699 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks can play, He's a burner. The concussions obviously 700 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: caused for a concern, But UM, I would take a 701 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: flyer on Dan arnold um first touchdown. If you're feeling 702 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: exotic and frankly, I would look at the under forty 703 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: three if I don't love the side at seven and 704 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: a half. That's a big number on the road for 705 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: Sam Donald. So there, there you have it. We'll be 706 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: back with weekend bets tomorrow. My piece went up today, 707 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: I think this morning early on Fox Sports for college 708 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: football picks and my NFL. I'm close to finalizing the card, 709 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: but the Thursday injury report, super keys, you want to 710 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: keep an eye out for that. All right, guys, thanks 711 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: for listening. Talk to you tomorrow.